[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE CARMEL CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR MONDAY, OCTOBER 18TH.
NOTING PRESENCE OF A QUORUM I'M CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
[2. AGENDA APPROVAL]
FIRST IS AGENDA APPROVAL. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE SIGNIFY
YOUR APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[3. INVOCATION]
NEXT IS OUR INVOCATION WITH REVEREND GEORGE DAVIS.THANK YOU, SIR. >> WOULD YOU JOIN ME, PLEASE.
GRACIOUS GOD, KEEP US MINDFUL OF ALL WE HAVE AS WELL AS ALL YOU WOULD ENABLE US TO BE. WE THANK YOU FOR THE WORK OF THIS COUNCIL AND WE LIFT EACH OF ITS MEMBERS TO YOUR CARE AND GRACE. CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM INSIGHT AND COURAGE. WE ASK YOUR BLESSING ON ALL WHO SERVE THE PUBLIC GOOD AND ALL WHO WOULD KEEP US SAFE.
WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR OUR CITY, FOR OUR NATION, FOR YOUR ABIDING
[4. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
>> NEXT UP PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNSELOR AASEN.
[5. RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS]
ITEM 5 IS RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES OF OUTSTANDING[6. RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL]
CITIZENS. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY TO RECOGNIZE THIS EVENING. ITEM 6 RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. WE HAVE ONE TONIGHT.THAT'S ROBBIE SLAUGHTER. PLEASE COME UP, SIR.
YOU'LL HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT.
THE BUTTONS RIGHT THERE WILL TELL YOU GREEN, YOU'VE GOT PLENTY OF TIME. YELLOW, 30 SECONDS LEFT AND RED,
YOU'RE DONE. >> THANK YOU, COUNSELORS.
MY NAME IS ROBBIE SLAUGHTER. I HAVE MET MANY OF YOU HERE.
I AM RUNNING FOR CONGRESS AS AN INDEPENDENT NEXT SESSION.
THE REASON I'M HERE IS TO REMIND YOU OF SOMETHING IMPORTANT, WHICH IS THAT THERE'S ALMOST NO ONE HERE.
AS I COME TO THESE MEETINGS AND OTHER TOWN COUNCIL MEETINGS I FIND THE ROOMS ARE TYPICALLY EMPTY.
WHEN I TALK TO CONSTITUENTS, THE REASON THEY SAY, IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF A SENSE OF DISTRUST OR CONCERN, BUT A SENSE OF GIVING UP. FEELING LIKE OUR GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO RUN THE WAY IT'S GOING TO RUN REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY DO. WHILE IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND ANYONE OF A SPECIFIC NEGATIVE CONCERN ABOUT MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THIS GENERAL SENSE FROM PEOPLE THAT I TALK TO THAT REALLY, THE CHALLENGES THAT FACE US ARE NOT BEING SOLVED BY THE GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE. OF COURSE, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD. EVEN THOUGH I'M RUNNING AS AN INDEPENDENT, I WANT TO WORK WITH EVERYONE TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT HOW GOVERNMENT OPERATES AT EVERY LEVEL, WHETHER IT'S NATIONAL OFFICE WITHIN CONGRESS OR HERE LOCALLY OUR TOWN COUNCILS.
I KNOW MANY OF YOU CANNOT SUPPORT, EVEN INDIRECTLY, AN INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE. I STILL APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU, LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU DO AND HELP COMMUNICATE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS THE IMPORTANCE OF A GOVERNMENT WITH ALL OUR INVOLVEMENT. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND THANK YOU FOR CHANCE TO BE PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.
[8. CONSENT AGENDA]
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA ITEM 8, THE CONSENT AGENDA. FIRST WE HAVE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 4, 2021'S REGULAR MEETING.
WE HAVE CLAIMS FOR PAYROLL 38,237,662.
GENERAL CLAIMS OPLT OF 252,147,000.
AND WIRE TRANSFERS IN THE AMOUNT OF 162,249,446.
MOVE TO APPROVE. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA MOTION? SEEING TPHURPBG PLEASE SIGNIFICANT YOUR VOTE. ITEM 10 COMMITTEE REPORTS.
WE HAVE NO REPORTS TONIGHT. ITEM 11 IS OTHER REPORTS.
WE HAVE NO REPORTS IN THAT CATEGORY THIS EVENING.
ITEM 12 OLD BY. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING. ITEM 13 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[14. NEW BUSINESS]
THERE ARE NONE THIS EVENING. AND ITEM 14 IS NEW BUSINESS.ITEM 14A FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D, 2601.21.
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ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL AMENDING ORDINANCES D, 2234-15 AND D2366.17 IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT.>> MOVE TO INTRODUCE. >> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU SIR. >> I'LL READ THE SIP NONSEUS.
THIS AMENDS THE COUNCIL'S PREVIOUS APPROVAL OF RECOMMENDED BONDS BY INCREASING THE MAXIMUM AUTHORIZED PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF BONDS TO BE ISSUED FOR THE PROJECT FROM 12.5 MILLION TO $17 MILLION. THIS IS A DEVELOPER BOND.
HERE TO EXPLAIN THAT IS CRC DIRECTOR HENRY MASTECTI.
>> THANK YOU. THE PERSIDIUM, WE ARE A DEVELOPER BOND. IT MEANS ALL THE RISKS IS ON THE DEVELOPER, NOT ON THE TAXPAYERS. TRADITIONALLY, A DEVELOPER PICKS AN AMOUNT THAT THE BOND IS FOR AND IF THE REVENUE THAT COMES IN MEETS THAT AMOUNT, ALL WE CHECK IS THAT THE EXPENSES WERE USED FOR SOMETHING THAT'S ELIGIBLE 37 HERE, CONSTRUCTION OF THE PODIUM PARKING GARAGE AND ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS.
IF THE MONEY THAT COMES IN, THE TAX MONEY COMES IN, IS NOT ENOUGH TO COVER THE COST OF THE AMOUNT OF THE BOND, THEN THE DEVELOPER IS JUST OUT, BUT IT'S NOT AT ANY RISK FOR THE TAXPAYERS OR FOR THE CITY. SO THIS BOND FOR THE PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2015. BECAUSE THE CITY WAS WORKING WITH DUKE TO MOVE TRANSMISSION LINE THAT HELPED HOLD THE PROJECT UP A BIT. AND NOW IT IS 2021.
COST OF CONSTRUCTION HAS RISEN. THE PROJECT IS FINALIZING.
SINCE THIS IS A 100% TIFF GOING TO THE DEVELOPER AS CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE RISEN, THE DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN THE MAX BOND AMOUNT, WHICH I BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL ROUTINELY APPROVES FOR DEVELOPER BONDS ARE ESPECIALLY 100% DEVELOPER BONDS, FOR WHICH WE ARE NOT GETTING A SPLIT AT ALL.
I HAVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WITH ME THE DEVELOPER.
WE ALSO HAVE BRUCE DONALDSON. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THE WAHLBERGS HERE TONIGHT. HOPEFULLY, BRUCE AND TONY ARE
ENOUGH. >> COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DECIDE.
IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO FINANCE, THAT'S FINE.
WE CAN DO THAT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT?
>> SIR? >> I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE CONVERSATION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD ACCOMPLISH IN FINANCE THAT WE CAN'T ACCOMPLISH RIGHT HERE.
MR. BURKE, WOULD YOU COUPLE REAL QUICK, PLEASE? GIVE US YOUR RATIONAL WHY YOU'RE TAKING THIS FROM 12.5 TO 17.
>> I THINK THE DEVELOPER OF THE PARKING GARAGE, RESIDENTIAL BOTH FOR SALE AND FOR RENT ON THE PROPERTY.
AS HENRY SAID, WE ORIGINALLY BROUGHT THIS FORWARD IN 2015.
WE HAD SIGNIFICANT DELAYS IN JUST STARTING THE PROJECT.
AS YOU REMEMBER, THERE WAS A DUKE POWER LINE RUNNING THROUGH THE MIDDLE. AS YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH DUKE TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. NOT BUT FOR THE EFFORT OF THE CRC, PUSHING THAT FORWARD. WE DID DEMO THE BUILDING IN, I THINK, 2016, BUT WE REALLY DIDN'T START THE PROJECT UNTIL MUCH, MUCH LATER. WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD AT 12.5 MILLION AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW COSTS HAVE GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY. THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE DID DURING THE PROJECT THAT WASN'T COMTEMPLATED.
ONE OF THE BIG ONES, WE WORKED WITH THE CRC, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, TO STRENGTHEN ALL THE DRIVE WAYS TO BE ABLE TO BRING A FIRE TRUCK ON THE PODIUM.
THAT WAS SOMETHING WE COMTEMPLATED.
THEN THERE'S JUST MANY OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE COME ALONG THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING TO DO IN ALL THEIR GARAGES, WHETHER IT'S CAMERAS OR OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE JUST CONTINUE TO WORK WITH CRC TO PUT THOSE THINGS IN AS THEY'RE COMMONPLACE NOW.
WHEN WE DEVELOPED, STARTED OUR DEVELOPMENT, THEY WERE COMMONPLACE. IN ADDITION, IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT TO THE PERSIDIEM LATELY, TREES AROUND THE PARK ARE NOT YOUR 1 INCH CALIBER TREES. THEY'RE 5 INCH TREES.
THERE ARE THINGS WE DEVELOPED AND INSTALLED THAT WOULD LOOK TO
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GIVE IT A MORE MATURE LOOK FROM DAY ONE.AS YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS PROJECT DOES DO, EVEN WITH THE REQUEST THAT WE'RE MAKING IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON SCHOOLS. AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND LOOKED AT WHAT THE SCHOOLS WERE GETTING PRIOR TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND EVEN TODAY, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.
COSTS HAVE GONE UP. TOOK US A WHILE TO GET THE THING MOVING. WE'VE ALSO UPGRADED MANY OF THE ITEMS ACROSS THE ENTIRETY OF THE SITE.
>> MR. DONALDSON, WILL YOU JOIN US REAL QUICK, PLEASE? GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS. IF WE WERE TO ASK -- I CAN'T FIND A REASON NOT TO DO IT IS MY POINT.
IT'S A DEVELOPER BACKED BOND. IT'S A 100% BOND.
WE KNOW THAT COSTS HAVE GONE UP. HE HAS DELIVERED AS MUCH OR MORE THAN WE ASKED FOR ON THE PROJECT.
SO I'M ASKING, GIVE ME A REASON NOT TO DO IT.
>> I REALLY CAN'T THINK OF ANY REASON NOT TO DO IT.
THE POINT IS, EVEN IF WE ISSUE THE FULL 17 MILLION, YOU CAN'T GET MORE THAN 100% THAT YOU ALREADY PLEDGED.
IF THAT DOESN'T COVER THE 17 MILLION, IT DOESN'T COVER THE 17 MILLION SO YOU'RE NOT REALLY GONNA BE OUT ANYTHING.
AS HENRY SAID, THE CITY'S NOT ON THE HOOK FOR THESE.
>> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILLOR HANNON.
>> I UNCOSTS HAVE GONE UP. IF THERE'S GOING TO BE PROJECTED REVENUE BEYOND THE $12.5 MILLION, IF WE DON'T APPROVE THAT, THOSE DOLLARS WOULD COME BACK TO THE CRC AND THE CITY.
ALTHOUGH IT'S NICE TO USE TERMS LIKE NO RISK TO TAXPAYERS, THIS IS REVENUE THAT'S BEING DIVERTED FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE DEVELOPER HERE. SO THERE DOES NEED TO BE SOME CONVERSATION IN WHETHER THIS SHOULD BE DONE, WHETHER IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, WHAT THE ALTERNATIVES ARE FOR IT.
AND, AGAIN, WHAT ARE THE TAX PROJECTIONS.
I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM BAKER TILLY.
IS THE PROJECTED TAX REVENUE, IS IT AT 12.5, 13? HAVE THOSE NUMBERS CHANGED IN TERMS OF MAKING THIS.
I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MR. DONALDSON.
IF THEY DON'T MAKE 17, THEY DON'T GET 17.
BUT I CERTAINLY WANT TO HEAR WHAT ARE THE PROJECTIONS FOR TAX REVENUE AS THEY COMPARED IT BETWEEN 12.5 AND 17 MILLION.
>> I KNOW YOU SAID ONE THING I WANTED TO CORRECT AND THEN ASK
EVERYONE THEIR THOUGHTS. >> TO THE EXTENT THERE'S ADDITIONAL REVENUE BETWEEN THE AMOUNT THAT THE BONDS ARE FOR AND WHAT'S WOVEN INTO THE TIP, THAT WOULD NOT GO TO THE GENERAL FUND. IT GOES TO THE CRC.
BAKER TILLY IS WORKING ON AN UPDATED DOCUMENT, UPDATED ESTIMATES, WHICH I BELIEVE WILL SHOW 17 MILLION IS THE PROJECTION. I THINK IT'S ALSO JUST ABOUT, HONESTLY, THESE THINGS ARE PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
WE MAKE -- WE ENTER INTO A PARTNERSHIP WITH DEVELOPERS TO TRUST THIS CITY AND THESE DEALS THAT TAKE THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX YEARS. SO IF WE ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT IN 2015, WE'RE 100% TIFF AND THE DEVELOPER GETS DELAYED FOR YEARS THANKS TO THE DUKE TRANSMISSION LINE, DEALS WITH ALL SORTS OF COST INCREASES AND DELIVERS A PROJECT THAT I THINK THIS ENTIRE CITY CAN BE PROUD OF. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO ALSO BACK THEIR WORD AND DELIVER ON THAT 100% TIFF PROJECT EVEN WHEN THE DEVELOPER'S ASKING FOR A BUMP IN THAT ULTIMATE AMOUNT. IT'S PART OF THESE LONG TERM
PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT.
>> COUNCILLOR RIDER AND THEN BACK TO YOU, COUNCILLOR HANNON.
>> I GUESS, IF WE DID ADOPT THE 100% TIFF, IF THE DEVELOPER HAS BUILT SOMETHING THAT WILL PRODUCE MORE AND HE CAN HELP USE THAT TO RECOVER THE ADDITIONAL COST THAT HE WENT THROUGH AND THE UNBELIEVABLE CHALLENGES OF DEVELOPING THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, I DON'T SEE THE ISSUE. HE CREATED THE VALUE.
SAYING WE'RE DIVERTING MONEY ISN'T REALLY AN ACCURATE STATEMENT. I HAVE HEARD THAT FOR ALL THE YEARS I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL NOW.
IT'S NOT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT. CITY CENTER.
PEOPLE SAY WE DIVERTED MONEY FOR THE CITY CENTER BOND.
CITY CENTER WOULDN'T EXIST WITHOUT THE BOND.
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AND IT'S COMING DOWN TO BEING PAID OFF.BUT THAT WOULD NOT HAVE EXISTED. NOBODY WOULD HAVE EVER BUILT THAT. YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN LUCKY TO HAVE GOTTEN A BUILDING WITH A HUGE ASPHALT PARKING LOT IN PLACE OF WHAT WE BUILT THERE. THIS MAKES TOTAL SENSE TO ME.
>> SO MY CONCERN AGAIN THIS IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
IT IS TAXPAYER REVENUE. DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL OR BUSINESS. WE'RE COMMITTING A TAX REVENUE STREAM FOR 25 YEARS. IS IT RIGHT TO ON THE DIAS WITHOUT OTHER CONVERSATION APPROVE THAT? I DID NOT GET ANY BRIEFING ABOUT THIS AHEAD OF TIME.
THERE MAY BE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE COMFORTABLE ABOUT THIS.
MY OWN POINT IS, AGAIN, WHEN WE USE PHRASES LIKE NO RISK TO TAX PAYERS. THIS IS TAXPAYER BEING GENERATED. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TAXPAYER FUNDS ARE BEING USED IN THE MOST APPROPRIATE USE.
IF IT DID NOT GO TO THE DEVELOPER, IT WOULD GO TO THE CRC. THAT'S MY POINT.
I'M RAISING THIS MAINLY AS A POINT OF DISCOMFORT, GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, THE TERM AND TERMS OF FULL TRANSPARENCY AND DUE DILIGENCE. I DON'T WANT EVEN THE APPEARANCE THAT WE'RE NOT CAREFULLY CONSIDERING THIS.
AGAIN, THAT WAS MY QUESTION OF WHETHER IT WOULD GO TO FINANCE
COMMITTEE OR NOT. >> COUNCILLOR GREEN?
>> I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID BY BOTH.
I DON'T THINK IT HURTS. ULTIMATELY I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT IDEA AND MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
DOESN'T HURT TO GO TO FINANCE COMMITTEE.
HAVE EVERYBODY REVIEW IT AND BE ABLE TO ASK A FEW MORE QUESTIONS IN ONE MORE MEETING RATHER THAN HAVING IT GO THROUGH ALL
DIRECT, MASTESTSKY, WHEN WE SAY, WELL, I'LL JUST USE DR. HANNON'S VERBIAGE, NICETIES, NO RISK TO TAX PAYERS.
WHAT ARE THE RISK TO THE TAXPAYER? MAYBE MR. DONALDSON NEEDS TO ANSWER THAT.
ZERO RISK TO TAXPAYERS. THIS IS, COUNCILLOR RIDER MADE A GOOD POINT. THIS PROJECT GETS ISSUED.
WHAT GETS GENERATED IS THE TIFF THAT CAN POTENTIALLY PAY OFF THE BOND. IF THE DEVELOPER BUILDS A HUT AND GENERATES $100 A REVENUE, THE DEVELOPER WOULD GET $100 OF REVENUE. THAT WOULD BE IT.
THERE WOULD BE NO RISK TO TAXPAYERS.
IT'S NOT SOME SORT OF EUPHEMISM. IT'S NOT A NICETY.
ZERO RISK TO TAX PAYERS. WHAT THE DEVELOPER DID INSTEAD IS BUILD AMAZING BUILDINGS WITH QUALITY ARCHITECTURE THAT ARE THE BEST AND HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS ESTIMATED BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPER'S OWN INITIATIVE. AT THE SAME TIME, THE COST OF THIS PROJECT OTHERWISE THAT'S FOR USES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE THAT TIFF CAN BE APPLIED TO HAVE ALSO GONE UP.
THEREFORE, IT IS RIGHT TO USE THE INCREASED ASSESSED VALUE THAT THE DEVELOPER GENERATED TO ASSIST WITH THE OTHER PORTIONS OF THIS THAT THE TIFF IS ELIGIBLE FOR.
>> THANK YOU. >> SO FIRST I WILL SEND THIS TO FINANCE BECAUSE IT'S APPARENT WE'VE GOT -- WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON IT, BUT IT ONLY TAKES ONE TO SEND TO FINANCE.
BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE SEND IT TO FINANCE? YES?
>> WELL, MADAM PRESIDENT, SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE VERY CLEAR WHAT DATA, WHAT QUESTIONS DO I NEED TO PREPARE FOR.
WHO DO I NEED TO HAVE THERE SO THAT WE DON'T WASTE EVERYBODY'S TIME. IF YOU WOULD LET ME KNOW EITHER NOW OR IN AN E-MAIL, PLEASE LET ME KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DISCUSS.
>> AT THE VERY MINIMUM WE NEED INFORMATION FROM BAKER TILLY.
WILL THAT BE HENRY, HENRY, SOON? >> I'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT IS.
>> OKAY. AND DO YOU THINK YOU CAN MEET AND BRING IT BACK FOR NOVEMBER 1 MEETING?
>> YES. >> ASSUMING YOU CAN GET A
QUORUM. >> I'M ON VACATION THE LAST WEEK. I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT
BECAUSE IT'S THIS WEEK. >> OKAY.
WE HAVE SEVERAL EVENTS THIS WEEK.
I HAVE GOT A TOWN HALL MEETING THURSDAY NIGHT.
GREAT IDEA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENTLEMEN.
WE'LL SEE YOU AT LAND USE. NEXT UP IS ITEM 14B FIRST
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READING OF ORDINANCE D2602.21. SORRY? OKAY. ORDINANCE OF COUNCIL OF CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA FOR APPOINT OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES OF THECARMEL CITY COURT. >> MOVE TO INTRODUCE.
>> I'LL READ THE SYNOPSIS. AMENDS THE 2021 SALARY ORDINANCE TO ALLOW CARMEL CITY COURT EMPLOYEES TO RECEIVE PREMIUM PAY AS AUTHORIZED BY THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT AND THE COMMON COUNCIL. I ELIEVE MR. OVERLANDER IS HERE. IF EVERYONE TOOK A LOOK, THE RED LINE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DOCU
>> GOOD EVENING. JOHN OVERLANDER.
COUNCILLOR STATED THIS IS A COMPANION TO THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED THE LAST MEETING UPDATING THE PREMIUM PAID.
THIS IS THE NEXT ITEM FOR THE CARMEL CITY COURT EMPLOYEES AND NEXT IS FOR CITY CLERK. THAT'S SO THEY WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO GET THE PREMIUM PAY THAT YOU APPROVED OUT OF THE AMERICAN
RESCUE PLAN. >> I'M GONNA, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I'M GOING TO READ JUST LINES 28-32.
SECTION 5. AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT PREMIUM PAY COMPENSATION FOR CARMEL CITY COURT EMPLOYEES PURSUANT TO THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH BY THE COMMON COUNCIL.
ELIGIBLE CITY COURT EMPLOYEES SHALL BE COMPENSATED FOR ESSENTIAL WORK HOURS PERFORMED DURING THE COVID-19 PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY AT A RATE OF $2 PER HOUR.
TOTAL AMOUNT SHALL NOT EXCEED 2% OF THEIR ANNUAL BASE PAY.
>> ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, JOHN? >> NOPE.
THAT'S IT. IT'S IDENTICAL TO THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU
HAVE APPROVED ALREADY. >> ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS
ORDINANCE OR JOHN? >> I SAY WE SUSPEND THE RULE.
>> HEARING NONE, PLEASE SIGNIFY YOUR VOTE ON THAT.
THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW FREE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND ACT ON THIS THIS EVENING.
>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE SIGNIFY YOUR VOTE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE MOTION CARRIES.
FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D IS AN ORDINANCE COUNCIL AMENDING THE 2021 ORDINANCE FOR APPOINTED OFFICERS OF THE CITY AND CITY CLERK. SPONSOR AGAIN, COUNCILLOR
WORRELL. >> MOVE TO INTRODUCE.
THIS IS SIMILAR TO 2602. THIS ONE AMENDS THE 2021 SALARY ORDINANCE TO ANOW CARMEL CITY CLERK EMPLOYEES TO RECEIVE PREMIUM PAY. LINES 28-32 ARE EXACTLY THE SAME EXCEPT FOR THE WORD CITY CLERK IN PLACE OF CITY COURT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE WITH SUSPEND THE RULES AND ACT ON THIS THIS EVENING.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY DISCUSSION ON SUSPENDING THE RULES AND ACTING ON THIS THIS EVENING? IF NOT, PLEASE SIGNIFY YOUR VOTE.
WE ARE FREE TO ACT ON THIS THIS EVENING.
>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> THANK YOU.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? SEEING NONE, PLEASE SIGNIFY YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM 14D FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D2605-21.
ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA OF THE CARMEL
CITY CODE. >> MOVE TO INTRODUCE.
>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR
CAMPBELL. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT.
THIS ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES A PROCEDURE FOR REMOVING A COMMON COUNCIL MEMBER PURSUANT TO INDIANA CODE 36.4.6.6.
AND JOHN OBERLANDER IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU. SORRY FOR THE DELAY.
I WAS DISCUSSING WHICH COMMITTEE THIS SHOULD GO TO, SINCE IT WILL GO TO COMMITTEE. WE DECIDED IT WAS GOING TO GO TO FINANCE. THERE WON'T BE A MEETING BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. SO THAT WAS A LITTLE SIDE CONVERSATION WE WERE HAVING. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM BEFORE WE SEND IT TO COMMITTEE?
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JOHN, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING?>> I DON'T, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> ANYTHING FOR JOHN WHILE HE'S READILY AVAILABLE? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I WILL SEND THIS TO FINANCE. LET THE RECORD SHOW THIS WAS SENT TO FINANCE AND IT WILL SIT THERE.
ITEM 16 AGENDA ADD ON ITEMS. THERE ARE NONE.
[17. ANNOUNCEMENTS]
ITEM 16 IS OTHER BUSINESS. THERE ARE NONE.NUMBER 17, ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILLOR WORRELL.
>> I DO HAVE A TOWN HALL MEETING.
ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE WELCOME THERE.
IT IS AT 7:00 P.M. MONOT COMMUNITY CENTER.
>> WHAT NIGHT? >> OCTOBER 21ST,
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