[A. Call Meeting to Order]
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>> GOOD EVENING. I WILL CALL TE FEBRUARY 15, 2022 MEETING OF THL
[B. Pledge of Allegiance]
PLANNING COMMISSION AND ASK THAL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIAN.[C. Roll Call ]
>> THANK YOU. MR. SEBLGHT. WOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.
NICK KESTNER. >> ALAN POTASNIK.
PRESENT. SUSAN WEST TER MEYER.
>> PRESIDENT GRABOW. >> PRESENT AND JOSH KIRSH,.
[D. Declaration of Quorum]
>> JOSH MAYBE RETURNING SHORTLY. WHETHER HE DOES OR DOESN'T, WE A
[E. Approval of Minutes]
QUORUM, THANK YOU. >> AND MINUTES FROM LAST MOO ME.
AND OF A MOVING THE MINUTES AS Y I.
>> . I. ANY O S POOED? >> MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
[F. Communications, Bills, Expenditures, & Legal Counsel Report]
>>> COMMUNICATIONS BILLS, EXPEND REPORT OF LEGAL COUNCIL. STARTH MR. GER CHEW CIN AND THEN ASK MR. DONALDSON TO COME TO THE MI.
MR. PRESIDENT I DON'T HAVE ANYTM LEGAL DEPARTMENT BUT AS YOU INDD
COUNSEL DOES. >> THANK YOU. THAT'S YOUR CUE .
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. BRUCE DONALDSON. BARNS AND THOE HAVE THREE MATTERS HERE FROM THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, I CANU WANT ME TO SPENT ALL THREE OR DE AT A TIME? FEEL FREE TO COULD MINGEL THEM S EFFICIENT.
OKAY. SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION ADOPTEA RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE EXISTINY CENTER REDEVELOPMENT AREA TO ADS PARCEL THAT'S UP HERE AS A NEW F ALLOCATION AREA CALLED A STUDIO.
ALLOCATION AREA. THIS IS TO HET THE DEVELOPMENT OF OFFICE BUILDS SITE. WOULD ALLOW THE REDEVELOT COMMISSION TO HELP PROMOTE THATT DEVELOPMENT FOR STUDIO M. AND TS REALLY THE SUM AND SUBSTANCE OFT RESOLUTION. THE SECOND ONE WOUO AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY CENTER REDEVELOPMENT AREA. THIS IS INN SQUARE IN THE TIFF AREA BUT THEL IS TO EXSIZE THIS PORTION OF ITD MONON SQUARE, IT'S STAND ALONE E ALLOCATION AREA SO THAT INCENTIE NEGOTIATING WITH THE DEVELOPER R A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. AND TE THIRD ONE IS IN THE EXISTING OLN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA AND TN ALLOCATION AREA THAT WAS ALREAD, THE SMOKEY AND MONON ALLOCATIONS ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE APPROV THIS IS SIMPLY A TECHNICAL AMENT BECAUSE THE AREA HAS BEEN REPLAE THAT ALLOCATION AREA WAS ESTABLD IT'S NOW WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT R HAS BEEN BETTER DEFINED WITH THO THESE RED PARCELLS SHOW WHERE TL DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR SO THE PS TO AMEND THE BOUNDRIES OF THAT N AREA TO MATCH THE FOUR PARCELS E DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR AND SO TE THE THREE RESOLUTIONS, SEEMS LIE EVERY MONTH. WE -- THE PLANS CN ROLE IS TO CONFIRM THAT ONE OF E COMMISSION IS PROPOSING IS CONSH THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT SPHOIRTE CITY AND IF YOU PASS THOSE RESOT WILL MOVE ON TO THE CITY COUNCIS REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION.
>> THANK YOU BRUCE. IS THERE A DISCUSSION, MEMBERS OF THE COMMR QUESTIONS FOR MR. DONALDSON? JUST TO CLARIFY BRUCE, THINK WHU DESCRIBED WITH RESPECT TO SMOKEN IS NOW THAT MORE PLOTTING HAS BN ACHIEVED, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS FE ALLOCATION AREA TO JUST THE COML
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PORTIONS OF THAT PROJECT? >> EXACTLY, YES.
>> IF THERE ARE SNOW QUESTIONS,E CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TT RESOLUTION, PC-2-155-22-A. AND PC-2-15-22-B AND PC-IT 2-15.
>> ALL OPPOSED? >> MOTION IS ADOPTED. THANK YO.
[G. Reports, Announcements & Department Concerns]
>> AND THE REPORT. JUST TO TWO OVER THE OUT COME OS AT COMMITTEES. THE COMMERCIAL E HAS THE MICHIGAN ROAD APARTMENTE WERE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH AND CN TO THE MARCH 1ST COMMERCIAL COMD COMMITTEE MEETING AND THEN WE'LL HAVE/ACTUALLY I'M SORRY.
I THINK THOSE WILL BE AFTER THIT WE POSTPONED IT EVEN FARTHER, IT WILL BE THE APRIL MEETING NOW TE APARTMENTS WILL BE COMING BACK W BECAUSE THEY ARE MAKING MAJOR AS TO THE DESIGN OF THOSE. AND THE RESIDENTIAL, WE HAD THE STEAD MN APARTMENT COMMUNITY AT THE BRIDD THEIR RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ACCESN TO 1111TH STREET. THEY WERE SEK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETN MARCH 15TH, SO NOT TONIGHT BUT T MONTH WITH THE POSITIVE RECOMMEN THREE-ZERO. AND THEN TONIGHT WG PUD COMING BACK WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION 3-0.
AND ONE ITEM THAT'S BEEN TABLEDO MARCH 15TH, THAT'S CULVERS REST THEY ARE COMING BACK. THEY HADY FILED AND THEN WITHDREW AND NOWE BACK AGAIN. SO THEY WILL BE ON AND THEN UNDER OUR OLD BUSINESSE JUST SHOWED THE STEAD MAN APARTT COMMUNITY WILL BE HEARD AT THE MARCH 15TH MEETING. SO THAT'S E HAVE. THANK YOU.
[H. Public Hearings]
>> THAT TAKES US TO THE PUBLIC S PORTION OF THIS EVENING'S MEETIR BREVITY SAKE I WILL SAY THE PROS WE'RE ABOUT TO FOLLOW ARE THOSED OUT IN OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE FC HEARINGS.
I WILL READ IN TOGETHER ITEMS OO AND THEN.
>> AND IF AMOUNT FOR DISCUSSIONS WE CAN SEG RA GATE.
DOC DEBT NO. P.Z.-2021-00222-Z. BOYD OLD MERIDIAN C 2, REZONE.
AND THE MIXED USE DISTRICT. THS LOCATED AT 12895 OLD MERIDIAN TD BY MIKE HOLLIBAUGH AND IT'S DWIT NO. FZ-2021-00222-Z.
THIS SITE IS GENERALLY LOCATED 7 WEST MAIN STREET ALSO FILED BY E HOLLIBAUGH ON BEHALF OF THE PLAG COMMISSION.
>> >> GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF THE G COMMISSION. MY PARTNER OF NINE DIRECTOR OF Y SERVICES AND VI TWO RUN REDISOAU THIS EVENING.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL YOUR ATTENE DEPARTMENT PACKET WHICH WAS PREE WITH GENERAL EXPLANATIONS OF BO BUT I WANTED TO JUST MAKE IT A E INTERESTING TONIGHT SO HERE'S TR SITE IS ACTUALLY SITE 2. SITE S THE BOYD SITE AND THE OWNER OF E PROPERTY IS GREG BOYD AND GREG D THIS PROPERTY SINCE THE OLD MERN DISTRICT WAS FORMED AND JAY FARS IS THE FARMER REZONE. HE IS THF THE PROPERTY AS WELL. WE'RE PRO REZONE THESE FRONT URBAN CORE TR PURPOSE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT DI BOTH OF THESE PARCELS ARE WITHID MERIDIAN DISTRICT. THE OLD MERN DISTRICT WAS A MEANDED INTO THEE PLAN IN 1999 AND ADOPTED FOR REN
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2000 AND IT WAS REALLY ONE OF TT MIXED USE DISTRICTS THAT THE CIY PROPOSED. IT FALLS ON THE HEELN EXTENSIVE TASK FORCE THAT EXISTE TIME AND FOR REASONS THAT YOU'LS IS THE ORIGINAL OLD MERIDIAN DIT ZONING BUT THIS WAS WHAT THE DIT LOOKED LIKE BACK IN 2000. SO TE REALLY -- I MEAN WHEN YOU COMPAO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, THERE IS S STREET. NO INTERCHANGE AT MAIND IF YOU THINK OF ALL THE DEVELOPS OCCURRED SINCE THAT TIME, IT'S A PRETTY REMARKABLE STRANS FORMAT THERE'S THE TWO SUBJECT PARCELLR SUBJECT TRACKS THAT ARE PROPOSES REZONE. AND THERE'S THE DISTRI. BOTH OF THESE PARCELLS ARE CLEAT FROM ONE ANOTHER, THE BOYD PIECS VACANT, A WOODED TRACK. THE OTE IS CLEARLY A REDEVELOPMENT WITHE SHOPPING CENTER AND JUST A LITTL STAND ALONE BUILDING BUT BOTH AE CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL PLAE MERIDIAN DISTRICT WHICH WAS TO E AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. THIM THE C-3 PLAN YOU CAN SEE A GENEL FRAMEWORK FOR INFRASTRUCTURE ANN SEE HOW THEY, THE PARCELS AND TT NETWORK THAT'S PROPOSED AND THEH NETWORK WHICH WILL BE WORKING TE THAT THAT CONNECT TIFF SI IS A E REDEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR BOTH. R ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC TTHAT'S MY PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU MIKE. THIS IS A PC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE FROM C WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON EITHER OE REZONE PETITIONS? I SEE KNOWN. IS THERE A DEPARTT
REPORT? >> WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THISE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WA FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TONIGHK
>> DISCUSSION FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION?
>> MR. PRESIDENT. >> MR. HILL.
>> MIKE, IS THERE ANY NOTION ORY FOR TREE PRESERVATION ON THE BOS GIVEN THAT IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY WE STILL ENTERTAINING THE OPTION FR SIGNIFICANT MIXED USE REDEVELOPE THERE?
>> PROBABLY NOT. WELL, I MEAN L THE SAME WAY ABOUT IT AND IF YOK AND LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL AERIALE MERIDIAN DISTRICT.
A LOT OF THAT OLD MERIDIAN WAS D WET AND IF YOU GO BACK EVEN FARE REASON THAT THE OLD MERIDIAN DIS EVEN FORMED IS THE CITY WAS LOOT U.S. 31 IN THE CONTEXT OF THE MR HIGHWAY IN PROVE MENTS. THERE S WEIRD TRIANGLE AREA THAT SAT BAY IGNORED AND THERE WAS SO MUCH IT ALONG THE 31 CORRIDOR, CITY CEND RANGE LINE HAD GOTTEN ALL THE AN BUT THIS LITTLE AREA WAS YET UND SO THE TASK FORCE WAS FORMED ANS STUDIED AND BASICALLY THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION COMING OUT OF THK FORCE WAS DENSE MIXED USE DEVELO SUPPORT MERIDIAN CORRIDOR AND AR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA WHICHS HAPPENING. AND THESE TWO KEY PU KNOW, THEY FOLLOW THE TALE OF FH IS CLEARED AND CONSTRUCTION NOWD SIGNATURE WHICH IS THE NORTHEASF OLD MERIDIAN AND MAIN.
CLEARLY THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AF MOMENTUM. WE HAVE TWO OWNERS TW ARE TALKING WITH PRIVATE INTEREY ARE ALSO TALKING WITH THE REDEVT DEPARTMENT FOR DAY TIFF, TIFF PR THIS AREA OR THESE TWO PARCELLSY
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LONGER ANSWER FOR TREE PRESERVAN YOU WERE HOPING.>> MR. RIDER. >>> MR. HOLLIBAUGH, WHEN DID YOR
LAW DEGREE? >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS A E RECOMMENDATION TO SEND TO COUNC. I'M SUSPENDING THE RULES FIRST.
>> EXCUSE ME, WE HAVE A A MOTIOO SUSPEND OUR RULES SO WE CAN TAKN THESE TWO DOC CETS WITHOUT SENDO COMMITTEE? WE'LL TAKE THAT MOTION UP FIRST. ALL IN FAVOR SUSPENDING OUR RULY
>> ANY OPPOSE SND. >> RULES SUSPEND OOD. MANY MR. MOVE TO SEND COUNCIL A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
STILL SECOND. >> IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION, AR OF SENDING BOTH OF THESE TO THEL COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMN
>> ANY OPPOSE SND. >> THESE WILL PROCEED TO THE COH
FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION PLAN C. >>> NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS DOCKET PZ-2022-00015-ZW4810, NORTHWEST A WAIVER FOR OF THE REQUIRE MENF CUSHING. THEY WANT APPROVAL TO NOT INSTAL PERIMETER CURBS TO HAVE THE BMPR SECTION 5/28E2 AND 3.5 ACRES LOT 4810 NORTHWESTERN DRIVE WHERE TE ZONING IS I-1 INDUSTRIAL AND OUY OVER LAY ZONE. AND CHARLIE MAT TOX OF CROAS ROD ENGINEERS ON BEHALF OF THE OWNE CHARLEY, WELCOME BACK.
CHARLIE MATTOX, I'M HERE BEFOREU TONIGHT TO REQUEST A ZONING WAIO CUSHING ABOUT THE NEW PARKING AR WATER QUALITY BEST MAN AJMENT P.
>> THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN THE A INDICATION CAME BEFORE YOU LASTD IT WAS APPROVED. THERE WERE A G CONDITIONS THAT WERE ASKED FROME REQUESTED FROM THE COMMISSION JO UPDATE ON THOSE, THE PROPERTY OS AGREE ABLE TO BOTH NO PARKING OE WESTERN PERIMETER OF THE NEW ASA AND ALSO YOU'LL SEE REFLECTED IE UPDATED SITE PLAN THAT THE PATHL SECTION OF PACT ON MAY FLOWER DS BEEN REMOVED AS WELL IN LOUVRE O
THE TRANSPORTATION FUND. >> A QUICK REMINDER. PROJECT SD IN THE PARK NORTHWESTERN SUB DIN BETWEEN NORTHWESTERN DRIVE AND R MAY FLOWER PARK DRIVE, 3/4 OF AH OF 365 OF THE WESTERN BOARDER OE
CARMEL JURISDICTION NAL LIMITS. >> SO THIS ENTIRE SITE SHEET FLE NORTHWEST CORNER TO AN INGRID SN HERE. THIS LIMITED THE RUN OFFN OPTIONS TO SWAILS AND IN SECTIOE CONSTRUCT BUILT OF CONCRETE IN E DISCUSS THESED ISSUES AS I A STD INCORPORATED NO CUSHING AS AN AL WATER QUALITY BENEFIT. RUN OFFL SHEET FLOW EITHER TO THE EXISTID IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE HERE OR S LINE SWAIL HERE AND HERE. IT WE PIEPPED ALL WATER CAPTURED IN TE STORM SYSTEM WILL BE PIPED TO WR QUALITY UNIT HERE BEFORE IT'S PE EXISTING END SECTION OF THE NORE AND FROM THERE IT WILL FOLLOW EG DRAINAGE PATTERNS.
NOW, THIS WILL ALLOW FOR THE SIO FUNCTION FRAI STONE WATER CONVES PERSPECTIVE AND ALSO ADD ADDITIL BENEFIT OF STORM WATER SHEET FLG THROUGH GRASS OR PLANT GZ HERE.O GIVE DRAINAGE AN OPPORTUNITY TOE NATURALLY RATHER THAN DIRECT CON CONCRETE IN IN LETS. MY UNDERSS
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WE APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATIOD LOOKING FORWARD TO ANSWERING ANSOR COMMENTS THAW OR THE PUBLIC . >> THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLICS TO SPEAK ON THIS WAIVER, PETITI?
>> SEEING NONE. WE'LL GO TO THE DEPARTMENT REPORT.
THANK YOU. I THINK THAT CHARLID EVERYTHING VERY WELL, OUTLINED E ITEMS THAT I WOULD SAY SO I CANU THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ANE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ARE IN SF THIS WAIVER. WE TALKED ABOUT IT MONTH WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLS APPROVAL OF THE BUILDING. WE HN CARE EVER THOSE OTHER OUTSTANDIS HE MENTIONED AND THIS WAS THE LG WE NEEDED TO DO FOR THIS PROJECT DIDN'T GET IT INTO THE PUBLIC NR THE LAST MONTH HEARING. SO THAY THEY ARE BACKED NOW AND WE RECOW VOTE TO SUSPEND YOUR RULES AND E AND VOTE TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT.K
>> KIRSH. THANK YOU. JOSHUA. O SUSPEND THE RULES OF PROCEDURESS BEEN MOVED AND SECOND THAT WE SR RULES TO VOTE ON THIS PETITION ALL IN FAVOR OF SUSPENDING OUR Y I. I. ANY OPPOSED?
>> RULES ARE SUSPEND OOD. MR. , BEFORE YOU DO I HAVE ONE QUESTIE
PE MISSION NER. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
OKAY. GO HEAD. I FEEL LIKE WEE ALL NIGHT SINCE WE ONLY HAVE A E THINGS TO TALK ABOUT. IN THE GRASS LINE SWAIL, IS THAO BE FAIRLY NATURAL LIED ARE ARE G TO BE MOWING THE GRASS.
>> YEAH IT WILL BE NATURAL LAWNO BE MODE WITH THE REST OF THE PR.
PERSONALLY I LIKE TO SEE GRASSED IN THERE.
YOU MOW IT AND IT BECOMES MUDDYN IT IS HARD TO MOW AND LOOKS UNKT
DOING THE FUNCTION. >> I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE BASED , I'M JUST ASKING SO. DON'T HAVER THE QUESTION.
>> I SHOULD OF ASKED THIS QUESTN YOU WERE HERE PREVIOUSLY BUT WHE STORAGE PROTOCOL FOR USED OILS S LIKE THAT?
>> IN TERMS OF COLLECTION FROM E BUILDING?
>> CORRECT. >> WE ARE PROPOSING GREASE INTET TORE TO BE UNDER THE PAVEMENT AY DRAINAGE FROM THE BUILDING COLLN THE TRENCH DRAINS WILL BE ROOTEH THE SANITARY SYSTEM.
>> OKAY. I SEE MR. HILL NOGD HO THAT MAY BE A GOOD ANSWER.
>> MR. PRESIDENT, MAY I ASK ANOR QUESTION THEN?
>> YES. >> ALL THE CHEMICALS AND JURNG E SURFACE OF THE ASPHALT RUNS OFFS GRASSY AREA?
>> CORRECT. NO DOUBT IF THERE WAS LONG ROOTL GRASSES THERE, THAT WOULD BETTEE THE JUNK FROM THE ASPHALT THAN D MUDDY AREA THAT IT IS GOING TO ? IS THAT CORRECT?
>> POTENTIALLY. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> MR. PRESIDENT. >> MR. RIDER IF.
>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.
THANK YOU BOTH. ALL IN FAVOR OG DOCKET PZ-2022-00015-ZBR-W CIGNY
[I. Old Business]
>> ANY OPPOSED. >> IT IS GRANTED.
>> MOVING TO OLD BUSINESS. ONES EVENING.
>> 2021-00204-PUD- >> FRINGE MILL ROAD WHERE IT ISD S-2 RESIDENTS AND SHINAVER AND O DOBOSIEWICZ OF NELSON AND FRAKEN BEHALF OF PITTMAN PARTNERS AND . GOOD EVENING.
RON WITH FRANKEN BURGER. PITTMS AND ONYX AND EAST.
ANOTHER MEMBER OF OUR DEVELOPMEN NA VER.
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AND THEY ARE SEEKING TO PUD TO A UNIQUE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY TON AS FLOOR ON SPRING MILL AND ARCE DESIGN AND A THOUGHTFULLY DESIGD PLAN. THIS EVENING WE'RE SEEK A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE ZONING REQUESE CITY COUNCIL.ONYX BE AND EAST WILL BE DESIGNE ARCHITECTURE AND COMMUNITY STYLD DESIGNS AND ALSO TAKING INTO ACT SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS TO ENSR COMMUNITIES ARE APPROPRIATELY TRANSITIONING TO SURROUNDING AR.
>> >> BY WAY OF GENERAL BACKGROUNDR ON SPRING MILL PROPOSAL WAS REVY PLANNING DMITION ON DECEMBER 18D THEN THE RESIDENTIAL COMMITTEE N JANUARY 4TH AS WELL AS FEBRUARYF THIS 4R569 MOVEMENT AND THE REQT RECEIVED A 3 TO 0 RECOMMENDATIOD IN THE STAFF FROM THE MEETING FE RESIDENTIAL COMMITTEE. AS ILL S STRAIGHTED ON THE CON ACCEPT TIE PLAN BY TAB 3 AND ALSO ON DISPLE LAY OUT OF THE SPRING SPRIL COMS CENTERED BY EXTENSIVE TREE PRERS INVESTIGATIONS AREAS ALONG THE E OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS ADDIE TREE PRERS INVESTIGATION AND 46E GREEN SPACE AND COMMON AREA AS E PEDESTRIAN AND SIDEWALKS INTERNE SITE FOSTER AND ENCOURAGE A COMY WHERE NEIGHBORS ARE ABLE TO INTD ENGAGE WITH EACH OTHER WHICH WIT IN A VIBRANT SENSE OF COMMUNITY. THE FLOOR ON SPRINGVILLE PUD ORE SETS FORGE THE SPECIFIC ARCHITEL REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE DEVELOPD ADDITIONALLY THE STANDARDS, IN O THE TEXT OF THE STANDARDS IN THE ORDINANCE, IT REQUIRES SUBSTANTL COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMMITTEE PD AND ATTACHED TO THE OR DA NANS.E SHOULDN'T BE ANY COMMISSION IN S PHASE FOR THE STIEFL THE HOMES.U SEE HERE AT THE REZONE STAGE WIE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLIANT WITH THN U SEE AT THE ADLS.
COMPLIEWD INCLUDED IN THE BROCHS EVENING ARE ENHANCEMENTS INCLUDD TAB 1 WHICH RESULTED FROM THE RW PROCESS INCLUDING THE COMMITTEES WELL AS THE PUBLIC HEARING PROC. INCLUDED BEHIND TAB 14 IS A REDF THE ORDINANCE THAT SHOWS ALL THD SCAITIONZ AND ENHANCE MEFNLTS TT OF WHICH IS THE ORDINANCE THAW E UPDATED VERSION UNDER TAB 15. S PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS, THET HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT PRODUCT ENS AND I WANT TO WALK THROUGH A FEE ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED IN COD VETTED AS PART OF THE REVIEW PR. THERE WAS DISCUSSION REGARDING E VIEW WOULD BE FROM I-465. THISS ILLUSTRATION. EXCUSE ME A PHOTT THE COMMITTEE REVIEWED. IT'S ID BEHIND TAB 8 OF YOUR BROCHURE AG THE CONDITION OF WESTBOUND TRAFE VIEW OF WESTBOUND TRAFFIC JUST N TO THE BRIDGE NEAR SPRINGFIELD E PROPERTY. ITEMS TO NOTE N- DPLD UNDER TAB 8 IS THAT THRS A ROUGT GRADE CHANGE BETWEEN PAVEMENT AE PROPERTY LINE. SO DOWN HERE WIE PAVEMENT EDGE TO THE PROPERTY L, THERE'S ABOUT 20-FOOT ELEVATIONE AND APPROXIMATELY 100 FEET 20 PT EDGE OF I-465 AND OUR PROPERTY THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE E BETWEEN THE TRAVEL LANES OF 465E PROPERTY LINE. ADDITIONALLY ONF THAT THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 50 FD FARTHER FROM THE PROPERTY SITE U GET TO THE EDGE OF THE FIRST REL BUILDINGS.
>> ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURE ENHAS AND DETAIL WERE ADDED TO THE SIE ELEVATIONS OF THE HOMES AS REFLN THE PLANS BEHIND TAB, 4, 5, 6, .
THERE'S DISTINT FOUR TYPES. COT TAJES OORVETLE, TOWN HOMES N STONES AND ALL THOSE ARE DETAILR THOSE FOUR TABS.
THIS IS JUST A PERSPECTIVE U INE OPEN SPACE THAT INCLUDES THE ARL DESIGN AS RENDERED IN ALL THE IN SUBMITTED SO THIS IS AN ACCURATE ILLUSTRATION OF THE TYPE OF ARCE YOU DEVELOPMENT.
TEXT WERE ADDED TO ADDRESS THE E FOOTAGE OF THE HOME. CONVERTINS INTO LIVING SPACE AS WELL AS A F OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE PROVIDED IE DETAIL IN THE WRITTEN SYNOPSIS E PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING COMMIS% ADVANCE EVER THE MEETING. FARTHER ONYX AND EAST WERE ASKEO
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PROVIDE TECHNIQUES TO THE DWELLE TO 465 AND THEY ADDED THE TEXT D ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE MIN THE TERMS OF THE WINDOW DESIGNSS INSULATION MATERIALS ON THE SIDE DWELLING AND SPECIFICALLY THE SS OF THE HOME WILL INCLUDE ENHANCD INSULATION AND EXTERIOR WALL WAD ACOUSTIC PERFORMANCE MATERIALS T RATING OF A 40 OR BET EAR. THAS PRESENTED AND REVIEWED BY THE CE AND AT THE REX DAITION OF THE PTARCHITECT. >> AS NOTED THERE WAS ALSO A DN REGARDING TREE PRESSER RAISMGHTS MODIFIED EAST MENT AND THE MOSTF SIGNIFICANT TO THIS WAS THE SPAF ADDITION OF TREE PRESERVATION AS VICINITY. WHILE THAT'S NOT ON R PROPERTY AS PART OF THE DEVELOPN APPROVAL APPROACH ENGINEERING WD TO A OBTAIN APPROVALS FROM PUBL.
YOU DRIVE BY THAT AREA AND ARE R WITH IT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT OR AREA THAT INCLUDES A ROUNDABOUTE DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OF AND MAINTAIN F ENTRANCE TO THEIR COMMUNITY.
>> FARTHER THERE WAS ONE ADDITIM AND THAT WAS REGARDING SIGNAGE.F THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS MR. KIRSHF WE WOULD CONSIDER THE ADOPTION D ORDINANCE OF SPECIFIC LANGUAGE D GO ON THE TREE PRESERVATION SIGR THAN TREE PREAS EVASION IN THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PLANNING COS WEAR OF IT BUT DARREN PETERSON M FORESTRY SUGGESTED THOSE AND WEW THEM WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSOE APPROPRIATE STAGE TO ACCEPT IT E COMMISSION. WE DON'T WANT TO IT TONIGHT BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I DON'T THINK THEREA PROBLEM WITH IT BUT AGAIN WE WIL INTRODUCE IT AT THE TIME OF PLAD REVIEW.
>> REGARDING PEDESTRIAN CIRCULAD BICYCLE PARK, THIS A PEDESTRIANE PLAN INCLUDED AS PART OF YOUR O ON JANUARY 4TH WHEN WE MET WITHE COMIEW EE, THERE WAS DISCUSSIONE MEMBERS ADMITTING THE IDEAS TO THE SPECIFIC PATH WAY AROUND THD BICYCLE PARK. TO THIS END, PATH ENHANCEMENTS INCLUDE AND AS ILLS STRAIGHTED BEHIND TAB 11 ARE INE THE NATURAL CREST PATH AROUND TE PERIMETER OF THE POND BY ACCESSY RESIDENTS TO ENJOY THIS SPACE. ADDITIONALLY REGARDING PARKING.0 PARKING SPACES PROVIDED ON LOTSS AN ADDITIONAL 62 STREET OR ALLEG SPACES AS ILLUSTRATED ON THE PLT ARE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSN EVENING. ALSO A SUGGESTION MADE BY THE CA WELL DESIGNED COVERED PARK STRUR STRUCTURES. WE COMMITTED TO TWE ARE INCLUDED BEHIND TAB 11. EXF WHAT MIGHT BE THERE IS BEHIND TA COMMIT MEANT IN THE ORDINANCE TE THE TWO STRUCTURES.
THAT'S I- IT'S ALSO OUTDOOR PARD ACROSS THE SITE. DAVE LITTLE HA QUESTION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE L DOING THAT AND THE ANSWER IS YE.
THIS A DESIGN ELEMENT FOR THE CY THAT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND THE S FOR BICYCLE PARKING. AND FINALE WERE ENHANCEMENTS MADE TO PROJET AMENITIES, EXAMPLES OF WHICH ARS STRAIGHTED HERE. THE COMMITTEED MORE SPECIFICITY REGARDING THE D PROJECT AMENITIES IN THE CENTRAN AREA AS WELL AS SUGGESTIONS MADT ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS TO THE E AREAS. IT INCLUDES TAB TEN OF YOUR BRO, THERE'S AN UPDATED OPEN SPACE PS STRAITIONZ OF COMMON AREA APPEAD RAISED PLAZA SPACE AS WELL AS PO EXAMPLES OF THE PLAN COMMON AREA AMENITIES. ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMG THE POND INCLUDE AMENITIES SUCHE PROPOSED VIEWING DOCK OVER LOOKE POND AND NATURAL ROCK FORMATIONS TO ENHANCE IT'S NATURAL APPEARAN CONCLUSION THE FLORA PROPOSED PD A 3 TO 0 FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATIE COMMITTEE. PRIOR TO THIS EVENIF WAS LOOKING TO BUTTON UP A FEW WE WERE ABLE TO BUTTON UP WITH Y
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ALL BUT ONE. AND I'LL TALK ABON A MINUTE. WE PROVIDED THE NECEY EXHIBITS AND TEXT AND ADDRESSEDR QUESTIONS AND A COUPLE OF TYPOSA COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL PEAKS TWEET WE'LL MAKE ALL SUBJECT TO STAFFE FINAL ITEM WAS WITH REGARD TO AS SECTION OF A ROADWAY AND IF WE N THE WEEDS, THERE WAS A SECTION Y RIGHT HERE AND WE HEY SEPARATE S SECTION FOR THAT ROADWAY TYPE BE STAFF ASKED THAT WE ELIMINATE TK AND THE TREE LOAN ON THAT SIDE O ADDITIONAL TREE PRESERVATION ALD TO THAT END I CAN TELL YOU YES,Y REDUCTION THAT WE WOULD MAKE TOE STANDARD 56-FOOT WIDE CROSS SECL ADD TO THAT TREE PRESERVATION B THERE'S A LITTLE BIT. THIS SEGF ROADWAY AMONG THE OTHER SECTIONS ROADWAY IS UNIQUE. IT DOESN'T N STREET PARK AGO LONG IT AND YOUE HERE THREE OF THE TOWN HOMES WOS DRIVE WAYS TO THAT SOY THINK ANE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH SINCET FRIDAY WITH STAFF AND I THINK WO GET OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND DETET THAT EXHIBIT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKED COMMIT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIT WE'LL WORK WITH STAFF. THIS ISE OF EXHIBIT H I THINK WHERE THATS IDENTIFIED AND WE'LL REPLACE WIT ACROSS SECTION THAT'S ACCEPT ABF BEFORE WE GET TO THE COUNCIL. T WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE IS REALLE MORE UNIQUE CROSS SECTION FOR TS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ELIMINATINL WE'RE DOING IS ELIMINATING THE N AND EXCUSE ME, TREE LAWN AND SIK ALONG THE SEGMENT BECAUSE WE HAK ON THE NORTH AND WE'RE NOT PROVG STREET PARKING OR ON STREET PARG THAT SEG MEMBER. AS YOU SEE HERE SIDES OF DWELL D THREE DRIVE WAYS AND THE SHORTES THAT DON'T LEND THEMSELVES TO OT PARKING. SO AGAIN WE'LL GET WI WE WOULD AGREE AND REQUEST THE G COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION SUBO CROSS SECTION THAT WAS ACCEPT AO STAFF AND INCLUDING THE FIVE ADS THAT STAFF REQUESTED. I CAN GOE IN DETAIL BUT STAFF HAS THOSE IE PLANNING COMMISSION IS COMFORTAE IS NOT SIGNIFICANT MATTERS. A E WORDING.>> THAT ADDRESSES THIS MAINGD SE IN THE ORDINANCE TODAY IT SPECIT SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF ALL . WE NEED TO AMEND THAT AND INCLUT ITEM AND PROVIDED STAFF AND EXHT SHOWS WE HAVE ADEQUATE SPACE INR YARD FOR DUPLEX DRAWINGS FOR PAN THE ALLEY INTERNAL TO THE SITE.E ITEMS STAFF WANTED US TO A DRETD WE AGREED DO THAT AND THE LAST N
ALL THE ILL US STRITIONS YOU SA. >> SPECIFICALLY NOTE THAT ON THN STONE HOMES WHERE WE HAVE MASONE FIRST FLOOR ON THE BACK SIDE WHE GARAGES ARE AND IT'S FULL FIRSTR MASONRY IN THAT SPACE.
THE TEXT OF THE ORDINANCE SAYS D COMPLIANCE. NONETHELESS STAFF D FOR THAT SPECIFICITY AND THERE O QUESTIONS AND WE AGREE TO MAKE T
ADJUSTMENT. >> AND WITH THAT WE STRICTLY ADE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE CITYL THIS EVENING. WITH THE ORDINANS AMENDED INCLUDED BEHIND TAB 15 S THE FIVE ITEMS REQUESTED BY STAK
DEPARTMENT REPORT A LESM YEAH,. >>>
>>> >> THE PETITION MADE ANY CHAINGR THE COURSE OF THIS REVIEW PROCE. THE SITE HAS A QUALITY LAYOUT WH PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY STREETS ANDE LOCATED OFF THE ALLIES AND SHORS AND LOTS OF CONNECTIVITY. OPENS DISBURSED THROUGHOUT THE PROJECD ARCHITECTURE PROVIDES A THREAT Y AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
>> AND THEY SUBMITTED US RESPONE THIS MEETING AND WE WERE ABLE TW THOSE. THE CHANGES THEY PROPOSE SATISFACTORY TO US EXCEPT FOR TF WAYCROSS SECTION OF THAT SIDE OE STREET. WE MIED NEED TO MAKE SE BOTH ON THE SAME PAGE OF WHAT TT LOOKS LIKE AND IF THE ENGINEERIG DEPARTMENT IS COMFORTABLE WITH. THAT BUT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE WO MAKE THAT RIGHT OF WITH A LOOK T WE WANT TO TO BE AND IT WAS JUSU FOR HE MORE TREE PRESERVATION OR REMOVING THAT SIDEWALK AND TREEG THAT SOUTHERN POMPLEGHTS I THINE CONFUSION WAS NO ON STREET PARKT
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THEY ARE WANTING SINCE IT'S A SR SEGMENT AND THEY HAVE IT THERE.SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITHN THAT AND HAVE THAT BUTTONED UP E COUNCIL AND I'M COMFORTABLE DOID GETTING THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMO WITH THAT I THINK THEY ADDRESSER COMMENTS SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND E VOTE THIS EVENING BACK TO THE CY COUNCIL.
>> FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMMITTEW YOU WEREN'T THERE AT THE LAST MT MEETING. SO MR. KIRSH.
>> I'M MR. KIRSH, I SIT NEXT TOR CHAIR WAS NOT AVAILABLE SOY ACTA CHAIR BUT THE PETITION NER AND A GAVE A GREAT REPORT. WOI JUST E WERE A COUPLE OTHER COMMENTS, WD SOMETHING, JUST FILLING YOU GUYY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTA. SOMETIMES WE ASKED FOR THINGS AE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE SZ WE GEE ASKED FOR.
AND WE ASKED FOR BIKE PARKING OD UP BIKE PARKING AND THEN WE ENDH ABANDONED COVERED BIKE PARKING D THEM TO LOOK AT LANGUAGE THAT AM TO TAG BIKES AND REMOVE BIKES TE BEEN A BANDED.
LIKEWISE, WE ASKED FOR GREEN SPD THEN WE END UP WITH PLACES FOR O JUST DEFECATE ET CETERA, SO THAE ONLY HEATED CONTENTIOUS PART OFE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WAS USR GREEN SPACE AND NOT ASKING FOR H PARKING WHICH SOUNDS STRANGE ASY THAT AS THE PARKS BOARD PERSON.
SO HERE'S THE RUN DOWN. YOU HA8 GARAGE PARK SPACES AND YOU GOT Y SPOTS AND THEN 62 ON STREET PAR THE PETITION NER FOUND A SPOT WY COULD ADD FIVE TO SIX MORE SPACR COMMITTEE WAS A LITTLE BIT TORND WE AD L- ADD THE FIVE OR SIX MOS BRINGING IT TO 62 OR 78 OR DO W, DO WE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAT BY 5 FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THA.
50 SQUARE FEET OF GRASS AREA ON? MY OPINION IS THAT THERE'S AS YE LOOKING AT THIS MAP, THERE'S CLN OF GREEN SPACE AND THAT THE FIVE MOORPARKING SPOTS WOULD BE HELPN YOU TALK ABOUT A PLACE LIKE THIO MENTIONED THAT IF I HAD FRIENDSH COMMISSIONER HOLLE WAS QUICK TO, BUT IF I HAD FRIENDS, THEY WOULK ACROSS SPRING MILL AND THEN THED WALK OVER. NO, COMMISSIONER DIA REALLY WANTS THE GREEN SPACE INE AND I'M A FAN OF GREEN SPACE. T GOING TO UNDER SELL IT. SHE'S Y PASSIONATE ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF E TO ADD TO THE INSIDE OF THE PROI WOULD, MY ARGUMENT IS THAT I SEF GREEN SPACE AND SO I THINK, I TD THAT THE THREE OF US WOULD AGREO ADD THE GREEN SPACE, NOT TO REME GREEN SPACE AND LEAVE THE PARKIE BUT I KNOW THAT THIS COMMISSIONN BRICKS UP WHERE DO GUESTS PARK CONVERSATION?
>> SOY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YE THAT THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FO SIX MORE SPOTS. WHAT WE DIDN'TO IS BANK THAT AREA AND HAVE THEMK AND BUILD IT LATER BECAUSE I DOK THAT'S FAIR AND A DON'T KNOW WHT MECHANISM WOULD TRIGGER THAT. Y TO THE COMMISSION NOW EITHER WER THE FIVE OR SIX ADDITIONAL SPOTT THE PLAN STAND WHERE IT IS.
SORRY FOR THE LONG REPORT. >> IF I MIGHT, TO HELP FACILITAT DISCUSSION, YOU'LL SEE HERE IN S IN DARK GRAY ARE THE ON STREET G SPACES AND THE SECTION THAT WE E TALKING ABOUT IS RIGHT HERE ANDE WOULD BE SIX ADITIONAL SPARK PAG SPACE AS LONG THAT STREET THAT E JAIS ANT TO THE TWO FAMILY DELL. SO WE JUST WANTED TO PRESENT THD PARTICIPATING AT THE LEVEL. THN NER BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE VOTEDD IF YOU WERE TORN ON WHETHER OR T WOULD BE INCLUDE. WE WANTED TON PROVIDE THIS EXHIBIT TO FACILITA DISCUSSION AND THE DEVELOPER WIH WHATEVER THE COUNCIL, EXCUSE MEG COMMISSION DEEMS APPROPRIATE INS
RECOMMENDATION. >> AND PRESIDENT GRABOW, CAN I E
COUNTER ARGUMENT. >> WE DID DISCUSS IT. THIS IS N SPAIT SPACE AT THE END EVER THER COURT YARD. THERE ARE SEVERAL Y
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I THINK IT SHOULD STAY GREEN SPT THERE, IS SUFFICIENT PARKING ONE ALREADY. THERE IS 2.86 SPACES G UNIT. TWO CA CAR GARAGE FOR EVG UNIT WITH RESTRICTIONS THAW MUSR CAR IT? AN ADDITIONAL 62 STREET PARKIS SO IF ANYTHING, I THINK BRANDONS KNEES SAY IT IS PROBE LI OVER PF ANYTHING.WITH THAT SAID, IF THERE IS ADDL PARKING NEEDED, PROBABLY MORE TR SIX PAISES WOULD BE NEEDED. ITE SENSE FOR THE FUTURE HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION TO NEGOTIATE A AREAE STREET WITH ALL THE EMPTY PARKI.
THERE IS A SOLUTION TO GET MOORF IT'S NEEDED. BUT I THINK FOR TS THREAT IKS OF ESTHETICS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THERE IS VERE GREEN SPACE WITHIN THE CENTRAL F THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS IS TY CENTRAL GREEN AREA. SO I THINKD BE JUST VISUALLY SO MUCH MORE AE TO HAVE THAT CENTRAL GREEN SPACS STRAIGHT TO THE POND ONE DIRECTD THIS IS WHERE IT T-'S AT THE OT PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT FOR THE OUT THE BACK THEY ARE LOOKING AT WOULD BE NICE TO GIVE THEM AN AE FRONT VIEW LOOKING AT GREEN SPAD SHOWSES. THAT'S MY REASON FOR O KEEP THE GREEN SPACE AND NOT COT TO A PARKING LOT.
>> DISCUSSION AMONG MEMBERS OF F THE COMMISSION?
PRESIDENT GRABOW. >> MR. HILL.
QUESTION FOR YOU JOHN. REMIND E STREETS ARE PRIVATE HERE, IS TH?
>> THERE ARE SEG MEN THAT ARE PD SEGMENTS THAT ARE -- HAL IS IT O ZOOM IN ON THAT ANY BET EAR. TK DASH LINES ARE PUBLIC STREETS AE STREET WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS AC STREET BUT THE OTHER AREAS, A RH LINE. THOSE ARE GENERALLY THE L ALABAMA.
>>> >> ALLIES AND THOSE ARE PARKING.
>> AND PARKING PLAN ON ONE SIDEE STREET WITH BOTH, WEED HAVE TO E ADDITIONAL ACCOMMODATION. IT WA 60-FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. A 16-FOOD 10.5 LANES THAT DON'T INCLUDE T IT COULD BE AN 8-FOOT WIDE SECTS THE STREET. WE HAVE THINGS DESN SUCH MANNER THAT IF YOU GET CLOW YOU SEE THE ON STREET PARKING WO PROVIDE PEELS OFF SO THE INTERSA STANDARD WIDTH AND IT FEELS A WT MORE LIKE THIS IS THE PLACE. NE HERE'S THE SIDE OF THE STREET. E SPECIFIC PLACE WHILE NOT STRIPEE PLACE WOULD YOU PARK IF WITH YOE LOOKING FOR ON STREET PARKING.
>> SO IT'S DE LYNN GREATED PARKF THE ADDITIONAL PARKING IS NEEDET ON STREET. IT'S IN ADDITIONAL T WITH STALLS ALONG THE LANE, IS R
TO SAY? >> IT IS AND FARTHER DISCUSSIOND A DECISION MADE AT THE PLANNINGW AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH A DEVT PLAN IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER BECAS GOING TO BE A CONSIDERABLE ADDIL FUTURE TO COME BACK AND ADD THA IT'S A ROUNDING ERROR WITH THE CONSTRUCTION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOR THEM TO ADD IT, IT WOULD BE THRS THE COST OF MATERIALS FOR SUCH L PROJECT. THAT THEY WOULD BE PAA SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO L THAT PARKING LOT AT A A LATER D.
MR. PRESIDENT, CAN I SAY SOMETH? >> I HAD CONCERN SINCE IT'S PUBT OF WAY. AT THAT POINT IS THE CE HOOK FOR BUILDING THAT ADDITIONM WATER COLLECTION OR PETITION NEG IT AT THIS STAGE?
>> A FAIR CONCERN. I GUESS TO R THAT THOUGHT ALONG A SIMILAR TOT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT POTENTIAL LF GREEN SPACE FROM WHATEVER MIGHTN I-465 AND PETITION NER MIGHT FIE WITH LITTLE SUCCESS BECAUSE OF E THAT PLAN IS AT AND I GUESS I'MD ABOUT FIVE OR SIX MORE SPARK PAG SPACES VERSUS THE LOSS OF GREENT YOU POINT OUT GIVEN THE UNKNOWNF WIDENING FROM I-465 THAT MIGHT O THAT GREEN SPACE. I PREFER TO E
THE GREEN SPACE, IN MY OPINION. >>> MR. PRESIDENT.
>> PETITION NER YOUR COMFORTABLE PARKING YOU V CORRECT?
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>> YES SIR. >> I WOULD LEAVE IT GREEN SPACE.
I WOULD HAVE NO DESIRE TO MAKE K IT FOR THE FUTURE.
>> I WOULD AGREEMENT OF IT'S ANL BUT PEOPLE SOCIALIZE AND ENTERTE THE HOME AND THE ONLY TIME THISE TAXED WOULD BE IF FIVE HOMES ONE BLOCK ALL HAD A SUPER BOWL PARTR HOMES WHEN REALITY ONE OF THOSES DOES AND THE OTHER FOUR OUT SOME SO THE PARKING GETS SHARED. I E CAPACITY BEING AN ISSUE AND I AH JEFF, THAT BANKING SOME OF THISN SPACE FOR WHATEVER THE NEW 465 T DO HERE IS A GOOD INVESTMENT INE
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON TO. THAT.
>> I THINK THE FIVE DIFFERENT PU V. I THINK YOU SAID FOUR BUT I K THERE'S FIVE. ONLY THREE HAVE Y PARKING SO CAN YOU PUT THAT PARN BACK UP FOR A MINUTE, PLEASE? AND SHOW THE UNITS IF YOU WOULDO NOT HAVE -- SEVERAL OF THESE UN, YOU CANNOT PARK IN THE DRIVEWAYE
ARE THEY LOCATED? >> THE UNITS WHERE PARKING IS AN THE DRIVEWAY ARE THESE HERE THAE CENTRALLY LOCATED. THEY ARE THO FAMILY DWELL GZ AS WELL AS THE S ALONG THE WEST PERIMETER. THOSE HOME SITES WHERE IT BE TWO, IF E DEPENDING ON THE SETBACK FROM TT YARD HOMES THAW CAN ACCOMMODATEE DRIVEWAY.
SO IN THE SOUTH END THERE IN TH, THOSE UNITS, THEY DO NOT HAVE DY
>> THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS VEE AD THIS AREA SHADED IN GRAY IDENTIE STREET PARKING THAT EXTENDS ALOE FRONT OF THOSE UNITS.
>> AND IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGAIS THE PERCENTAGE OF UNITS BECAUSEW IT'S AN ENTERTAINING FEATURE BEY HAVE A ROOF TOP ABOUT?
>> NO. 3. >> I COULDN'T REMEMBER.
>> THERE ARE SOME WITH ROOF TOPD OTHERS HAVE THE FOURTH FLOOR ANT REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT. THE BROWN STONES.
SO THE BROWN STONES HAVE ROOF TG IF YOU WILL AND THE AREA IDENTIE HERE. THESE ARE THE PITCH TOWNT DON'T HAVE THAT ROOF TOP DEVELOO THE 3'S ARE LOCATED IN THIS BLOS BLOCK AND THE BROWN STONES HERET ON THE EAST AND SOUTH PERIMETERS AREA IS THE PITCHED TOWN HOMES T
HAVE THAT FEATURE. >> I JUST WANTED EVERYONE TO SED I THINK THERE'S AN ENTERTAINMENO THE ROOF TOP.
>> I AM IN FAVOR OF THE ADDITIOE PARKING BUT I A.M. ALWAYS AM SOE
THAT REPUTATION AS COMMISSIONER. >> SO I JUST FEEL LIKE -- I DONE IT'S EASY TO GET ACROSS THE STRN SPRING MILL. IT WILL GET BUSIEI THINK THE PEOPLE OVER THERE, THE CONCEPT IS GOOD BUT I QUESTION Y ALWAYS OF CROSSING THAT LATE ATO I JUST DO. I'M A PERSON THAT WE TO HE SOOT PARKING. I THINK THT OF GREEN SPACE, I GIVE IT TO YOT RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE. THAY OPINION ON THIS. SO I DID HAVER COMMENTS BUT DID ANYONE WANT TOE ABOUT THE PARKING?
BEFORE I JUMP INTO ANOTHER. >> IS THAT ALL RIGHT?
>> WELL, I MISSED THE COMMITTEEG AND I'M SORRY BUT I HAD A COUPLD ONE OF IT WAS AND I DON'T KNOW T ADDRESSED OR NOT. THAT WHEN WET PUTTING SIGNS UP AND THE PRESERA WAS TO PROVIDE SIGNS ON WHAT ARA BELONGED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT ANT BELONGED TO THE OTHER PROPERTY ?
IS THAT ADDRESSED? >> IT IS NOT. WE WOULD AGREE TT AT THE PERIMETER OF THE TREE PRN SPOT ADJACENT TO OTHER PROPERTIT BECOMES DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU D, WE WANT TO IDENTIFY FOR OUR SPAR COMMON AREA ENDS AND WE CAN DO A TASTE FULL WAY. TODAY I DON'T E THERE'S THERE'S A WIRE FENCE ORG LIKE THAT THAT EXISTS ALONG THE LET US COME UP WITH A SOLUTION T AND WE'LL REVISIT IT ALL THE DET PLANNING STAGE AND WOULD BE AGRO ADD SOME TYPE OF IDENTIFICATIONO A TREE PRESERVATION SIGN. MAYBG THAT PERIMETER WE COULD DO DOUB,
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A SINGLE POST WITH A SIGN THAT T THE TREE PRESERVATION AND A A SN BE LOW THAT THAT WOULD IDENTIFYD PROPERTY LINE. I'M JUST THINKIU TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE JANUARY E MEETING AND IT WOULD BE NICE TOR THE OTHER PERSON BECAUSE WE ALSD THAT THE TIME ADDING MORE AMENIH AS A DOG PARK AND WE TALKED ABOE NOT TAKING THEIR DOGS. YOU DIDEFORWARD WITH A DOG PARK AREA. >> YEAH.
>> YOU DIDN'T ADD ANYTHING LIKE? >> WE DIDN'T ADD A DOG PARK. SR CLEAR, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABE PERIMETER OF THIS SIERLT RIGHT .
CORRECT. >> THE CREEK ESTABLISHES A GOODE IF YOU WILL ALONG THAT NORTH PE BUT I THINK THIS IS THE SPACE WE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY WE WOD TREE PRESERVATION SIGNS. THINKE COMMITTED TO EVERY 500 FEET. WO SOMETHING ALONG THE SAME LINES T PERIMETER TO IDENTIFY THE SHAREY LINE AND IT'S NOTHING MORE THANE SHARED PROPERTY LINE FOR THE NE. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT AND I TT
WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, SO. >> I APOLOGIZE. IEM I'LL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MISSING THAT. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. A CR THINGS. AND STAY ON AMENITIES E MINUTE. YOU HAVE A PICTURE IN R TAB 10 OF EXCONTINUEDED WOODED G OUT OVER THE POND. IS IT POSSI? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ARE LOOKI WE WERE HAMMERING IN THE JANUARG OF PUTTING MORE AMENITIES IN HEE IT'S LOCKED OVER THERE.
IT DOESN'T CONNECT INTO ANY OTHR NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU CAN GET OUT R BIKE AND GO UP MAYBE TO 111TH BI THINK THERE WOULD BE SOME CHILDE AND I THINK YOU DIDN'T COME BACY PLAY AREA, ANY DOG PARK, SO AREG TO BUILD A DOCK THING COMING OUE WATER?
WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? >> THE ORDINANCE, THE ANSWER ISE ORDINANCE SPECIFIES NOSE ARE THR ILL US STRAITIONZ THAT I WE RETK TO YOU. I CAN SAY IT WOULDN'T E IDENTICAL TO THAT WOODEN DOCK BT WILL BE PROPOSED AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT TIME.
SO THE ANSWER IS YES, THOSE ARES SPECIFIED IN THERE. THAT WAS OE ITEMS THAT STAFF CALLED TO OUR N THAT SAYS IT WASN'T. THAT SPESY WASN'T THERE AND WE AGREED TO AT SPECIFICITY.
>> OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGN TODAY. T TELL YOU IT'S X LONG AND X WIDEL COME BACK TO DEVELOPMENT PLAN AD THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL RED DETERMINE IN COMPLIANCE TO WHATD
TOW.% >> EXPAND ON THAT THEME A LITTL.
WITH RESPECT TO THE CHARACTER FS THAT ARE PHOTOGRAPHED IN THE LAO PAGES UNDER TAB 10, WHICH OF THU COMMIT TO IN THE PUD TEXT VERSUE WITH US AND COME BACK FOR ADLS? CAN I TAKE THIS?
>> STEVE PITTMAN WITH PITTMAN P IN OUR LAST REVIEW MEETING. I W IMPORTANT SPECIFICITY IS TO THIS IKLY MISS WEST TE MIER. I BROUN BY TEN WOOD DECK. NOTHING GREAT BUT SOMETHING WE DID AT WILLIAMA IF SHE WANTS US TO COMMIT TO BUN BY TEN DECK, WE'LL BE SPECIFIC Y WE'LL BUILD THAT AND A WENT OUTD PURCHASED THESE MASSIVE BOULDERI SHOWED A PICTURE OF THOSE BOULDI KNEW IT WASN'T ENOUGH TO SAY WET BOWLDER IN HERE AND I HOPE YOU'. AND WE'RE GLAD TO COMMIT WE'LL E SEVERAL OF THOSE BOLDERS TO PUTE AS WELL.
AND I CAN SHOW YOU THE ACTUAL RT WILL GO IN THERE IF THAT HELPS.U KNOW AT THE TIME, WE THOUGHT LII TALKED TO ONYX AND EAST AND BRA, WE DO REALLY NICE, WE'VE DONE AF REALLY NICE AMENITIES AND YOU NF THEY WANT CERTAIN SPECIFICITY TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT AS NICE ASD NORMALLY LIKE TO DO AND WE HAVEO THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'M AG YOUR QUESTIONS OR NOT BUT WE'RE, IF YOU WANT, HERE'S A TEN BY TEA WHERE WE CAN PUT A WOOD DECK. O THAT AND HERE'S THE ACTUAL BOWL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YON OR NOT BUT WE'RE ABLE TO GET TON
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YOU LAR LEVEL IF YOU WANT US TO. >> AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO ADDE AMENITIES AND I WANT TO MAKE SUU SEE THESE PICTURES, THAT'S WHAT
I'M NOT ASKING TODAY TO KNOW WH. >> RIGHT.
>> BUT I JUST, THIS IS A VERY NE PROJECT, I THINK IT COULD HAVE W FACTORS TO IT THAT WOULD MAKE IN BETTER AND THE LAST THING I HAVL QUICK HERE IS DID WE PUT IN, WEN THE JANUARY MEETING ABOUT PUTTIG SOMETHING IN THE PUD WHICH WILLR TO THE HOA ABOUT NO RENTALS. DT
>> NO, I DON'T REMEMBER DISCUSST AND NOR DID WE COMMIT TO ANYTHI.
>> OKAY I JUST HAD NOTES TO THA. WELL, SUE, SO I THINK YOU HAVE CONSISTENTLY SAID IT'S A FOR SAT BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU WOULD SAYD THAT IT'S A FOR SALE PRODUCT BUK
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REMEMBERING. >>> NO, THIS IS NOT AN APARTMEN.
NO, I WOULDN'T BE ASKING. >> OKAY. THAT'S FINE. I JUST S ON THAT THAT WITH THAT WOULD GEO THE PUD AND THAT'S FINE.
THAT'S ALL VI. >> MR. PRESIDENT.
>> MR. RIDER. >> SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, IO MENTION. THE ONLY THING, THE OM I HAVE IS PUTTING SPES SIF TI IO SOMETHING ABOUT NO RENTALS. MY NEIGHBORHOOD TALKED ABOUT THAT.T DO YOU DO IF SOMEONE GETS A SIXH WHERE THEY HAVE TO MOVE FOR YOUD THEN THEIR HOUSE SITS THERE ANDT RENT IT. I THINK IT'S A DIFFICG TO ADD. I DON'T SEE THIS AS BEN INVESTMENT PROPERTY FOR PEOPLE D RENT. I'M GETTING INTERESTING T IF SOMEBODY WERE TO RENT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE PRICE RANGE, THEY ARE MAKING A PRETTY DECENTD WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE GETTING SG THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR. I K IT INTERFEARS IN PROPERTY RITESU START TO TELL PEOPLE THEY HAVE Y
TO RENT THEIR HOME. >> WELL, I WOULD THINK WITH REGO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SUE TS WOULD BE AN ISSUE FOR THE HOME S ASSOCIATION AND NOT AT THIS POIE OR THE CITY COUNCIL THAT IT'S UM TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT IN THER COMMUNITY AND NOT US.
>> I WOULDN'T ARGUE THAT. I JUA NOTE THAT IT WAS -- AND I JUST O
MAKE SURE AND OBVIOUSLY I'M WRO. >> ANOTHER FIRST FOR THE PLANNIG
>> CAN YOU PUT SOMETHING LIKE TE PRKTS UD?
PRIVATE RENTAL PROPERTIES. >> IT'S NOT OUR EXPERIENCE IN CT ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAS BEEN DONA RESIDENTIAL PLANNING DEVELOPMEN.
OKAY I JUST ASK BECAUSE IT'S BEA REAL PROBLEM RIGHT NOW, INVESTOE COMING IN NATIONAL INVESTORS ARG INTO THESE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS ANG UP AS MANY HOUSES AS THEY CAN BD USING THEM AS RENTALS AND THAT Y DETER YORE RATES THE ENTIRE NEID AND YOU NOAH FECTS PROPERTY VALS JUST PROBABLY IN THE LAST 18 MOF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD E PUD, IT MIGHT NOT BE SUCH A BADI MEAN WE'RE REALLY BECOMING A PR.
>> JOHN, THERE WAS A QUESTION FE DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE LENGTH OF S AND THE ABILITY TO PARK IN THE Y WITHOUT BLOCK THE SIDEWALK.
AND WE PROVIDED STAFF AN EXHIBIT ILLUSTRATES THAT WE ACCOMMDATEDT APPROPRIATELY. GREAT.
THE INITIAL EXHIBIT DID NOT ANDY OBSERVED THAT AND WE ADDED AN E.
>> OKAY. AND THEN THE THEME TOT SPECIFICITY.
NO. 16, DEALING WITH TREE PRESEN AREAS. THE TEXT CURRENTLY READD TEXT READS TREE PRESERVATION ARL BE REQUIRED AS GENERALLY INN ILD ON EXHIBIT K. SO EXHIBIT K CAN BE CON STREWEDS IMPLYING OR SUGGESTING A LOT OFT THINGS.
THIS IS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE OR Y ARE LOCATED.
AND TREE PRESERVATION. CAN WE E THE WORD ADD TO THE WORD WHERE.
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>> AND EXHIBIT IS REPRESENTING.T TALKING ABOUT MEETS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTIONS OF THE LOCATION BUE SIDE.
>> WE WILL MAKE THAT ADJUST MEN. THANK YOU.
>> AND I APPRECIATE SOME OF THES AND PROGRAMMING IMAGERY PARTICUE OF OTHER ONYX AND EAST COMMUNIT ASSUMING THIS GOES ON TO THE COR FARTHER WORK TO THE EXTEND THATE SPECIFIC FEATURES CAN BE DE LYND IN THE PUD TEXT WHETHER IT'S SES OR DOG PARK OR HUMAN AND PET FOR FIRE PIT FEATURES. WE CAN CALLT AND SAY THIS COMMON AREA WILL HE FEATURES, THAT WILL BE WELL. BT NOW AS I READ THE TEXT, THERE IG THAT REQUIRES ANY OF AT MEN TEAE SHOWN IN THE TWO PAGES OF IMAGE.
AND THAT WILL BE A CORRECTION TF HAS TO MAKE IN THAT LAN GAGE,.
>> THE TOP OF PAGE 20, TAP 15, S INCLUDING PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES D LANDSCAPING ARE PLANNED THROUGHE OPEN SPACE NETWORK EXAMPLES OF Y ILL US STRAIGHTED AND STAFF ASKO CONVERT OUR PLAN TO SHALL BE PR.
>> SO OUR TASK IS TO RETURN BACU WITH ITEMS THAT EITHER LOOK LIKR ARE TALK AND WALK ENOUGH LIKE IE RECEIVE THE APPROVAL BASED UPONE REQUIRE MENT OF THE ORDINANCE. L CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET T.
>> AND THIS GOES TO WHAT STEVE G ABOUT. WHICH BOWEL DERS, WHICHF WOOD AND STAFF WANTED US TO TIEO MAKE SURE IT WASN'T, THIS IS WHU MIGHT GET, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE T WE WANT TO SPECIFY THAT THEY ARR PHOTOS AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BEL TO WHAT WE SHOWED YOU AND IT WIE TEST OF THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE TY PROVIDED AND WE WILL PROVIDE YOT STAGE WHAT THEY WILL LOOK LIKE. THANK YOU.
AND LASTLY NOT TO HARP TOO MUCHT OPEN ISSUE WITH THE EAST WEST ST ALONG 465, EXCUSE ME, THE WEST N SEE THE CHALLENGES OF DEVELOPINS SECTION THERE BECAUSE OF THE PRF THOSE THREE DRIVE WAYS WHERE THS SECTION WILL BE DIFFERENT. BUTT SHOWING PARTICULARLY THAT IMAGET SHOWING THAT THE SIDEWALK WOULDY DARN CLOSE TO THE GARAGES OF THE
UNITS, IN THE MIDDLE? >> THEY WOULD BE REMOVED FROM T, THERE WOULD BE A REQUIRE MENT IE WERE THE TOWN HOMES, IF THE TOWF THERE WAS PARKING IN THE DRIVEWE WOULD BE THE SETBACK WOULD BE GR ALONG THOSE THREE UNITS. THE SK WOULD BE ONLY ON THE NORTH SIDEE INTENT WOULD BE FOR THAT SIDEWAN A STANDARD TREE LAWN SO A PAVEM 6-FOOT TREE LAWN AND 5-FOOT SID. MAYBE THE COMMITTEE LOOKED AT TR STAFF DID. MAYBE IT'S SIX AND E OTHER. MAYBE BE AT THE CURB ANE LAWN BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SIDEWAU STILL GET THE SAME GREEN SPACE L THE SIDEWALK WAY FROM THE PRIVAE
RESIDENCES. >> YEAH, I FOLLOW YOU. WE'LL HT OUT WITH STAFF BEFORE WE GET INF THE THE COUNCIL ON THAT CROSS SR
THE STREET RIGHT OF WAY. >> WE NOTICE THAT TOO AND I DIST WITH THE TRANSPORTATION CORD NAO ONCE WE HAVE THE REVISED CROSS N BACK THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WOULK ABOUT AND LOOK INTO WITH THEM H SO I'LL MENTION THAT AS WELL ASE SIDEWALK CLOSE TO THE STREET.
I GUESS YOU CAN'T PARK THERE ONE STREET, THIS STREET.
>> THERE WOULDN'T BE ON STREET N THIS SEGMENT.
>> BUT WE STILL HAVE THE SAME CF CARS ARE PARKED IN THAT DRIVEWAE SIDEWALK IS FOR THE TOWNHOME, TE WALKING INTO THE CAR, SO WE'LL T
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THAT WITH THEM BEFORE IT GETS TL AND MAKE SURE IT'S ENOUGH ROOM.>> I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO PUT N THE PARKING BEFORE ANY KIND OF S MADE, I MEAN, I WANT THE PARKINT SHOULD WE, WHOEVER WILL PROPOSEO MOVE FORWARD. I CAN PROPOSE ITE PARKING BUT HOW DO YOU WANT TO E
THAT? >> SO I THINK WHAT IS PROPOSED W IS WITHOUT THE PARKING SO WE CAA MOTION TO ACT ON THE PETITION AS AND IF PARK IS A SIGNIFICANT DE, THAT THEN THAT MOTION WOULD LIK.
>> DIDN'T IT COME BACK FROM COMT IT WOULD COME TO THE FULL PLANN?
HOW WAS THAT EXACTLY LEFT? >> SORRY.
IT CAME BACK AS WITHOUT THE PART JOSH WAS GOING TO TEE UP FOR DI YOU KNOW, I'M OBVIOUSLY WITH YO, I THINK THAT THE TREE LAWN DOESD SIGNIFICANT GREEN SPACE TO THIST WHEN THERE'S ONE, TWO, THREE, EY THREE IN DOOR PARKS WITHIN IT RW RESPECTFULLY TO COMMISSIONER ZO, LET'S SAY WE AGREE WE WOULD NOT WE DID NOT WANT TO BANK IT. I D CONCERNS AND EXPRESSED TO COMMIR HILL THAT IF IT'S CITY RIGHT OFF WE BANK IT, IS THE CITY RESPONSR BUILT BUILDING IT.
I THINK THE THREE OF US AGREED T WILL GO AS IS RIGHT NOW WITH NOR IT WILL COME BACK HERE AND QUITI THOUGHT A FEW OF YOU WOULD JUMPT MOORPARKING. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKI ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE OUT HERE WHT
>> MR. PRESIDENT. >> MR. RIDER.
>> I TYPICALLY JUMP IN THE PARKG CATEGORY BUT THE IDEA THAT EVERR THESE PLACES OR EVEN A THIRD OFE PLACES WILL BE THROWING A PARTYE EXACT SAME TIME AND IF SIX SPACE DIFFERENCE, I FIND THAT ODD ANDY NEED PARKING ACROSS THE STREET,T APPROVE THE PROJECT.
>> OKAY BUT I THINK THEY WERE TG ABOUT A COLLEGE STUDENT COMING D CAR, YOU KNOW HAVE YOU A GARAGEU CAN'T DETERMINE IF PEOPLE WILL S GARAGE FOR PARKING OR STORAGE AF THESE DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLACE TN
THE DRIVEWAY. >> YEAH, MY ACTUAL COMMENT IS TF THERE'S 62 ON STREET PARKING SPC SPOTS IF YOU WILL AND THE ONLY G SIX IS ADDING 10%. THAT SEEMS T TO ME WHEN YOU SAY SIX IT DOESNM LIKE THAT MY BUT ADDING 10% SEEA LOT.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THE PARKINE GARAGE. THE CARS HAVE TO BE PAE GARAGE. IT IS WRITTEN IN THE PY CANNOT CONVERT IT TO STORAGE. O
HAVE GARAGE PARKING. >> AND THERE'S A FREE MARKET FOT PLAY TOO. IF SOMEONE DIDN'T WAT WITH TWO PARKING SPACES IN THE , THEN THIS PROBABLY ISN'T THE PRR THEM.
>> ARE YOU READY TO ENTERTAIN AN THIS?
>> BECAUSE I BELIEVE YOU ARE RI. >> I BELIEVE YOU WERE RIGHT.
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