[Budget Workshop on September 22, 2022.]
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>> WE HAVE A QUORUM NOW WEEKEND WE'RE READY TO OPEN THE 2023 BUDGET WORKSHOP FOR SEPTEMBER
22ND. DO YOU HAVE ANY OPENING REMARKS, MAYOR? >> MAYOR JAMES BRAINARD: I DO.
MR. VICE-PRESIDENT. SO, THIS IS THE ORDINANCE I PLAN TO INTRODUCE THE FIRST WEEK IN THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER. BY STATE LAW, IT HAS TO BE PASSED BY THE END OF OCTOBER OR WE TAKE LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. THAT'S THE SCHEDULE, THESE ARE THE WORKSHOPS DESIGNED FOR YOU TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO ASK THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ABOUT THEIR BUDGETS. THE TWO THINGS WHICH ARE IMPORTANT AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD LOTS OF INFLATION, THE NATIONAL RATE YESTERDAY WAS DOWN TO 8.SOMETHING, AND IT HAD BEEN OVER NINE, SO, IT'S COME DOWN A BIT BUT IT'S CERTAINLY MORE THAN WE'RE USED TO. WHAT I HAVE PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON CONTRACTS WITH ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS WE TALK WITH, IS A 5% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, AND A 3% ONE TIME BONUS THAT WOULD NOT BE ON THE PENSION BASE. WHEN YOU ADD TO THE PENSION BASE THAT'S FOR ALL TIME BECAUSE IT REPEATS ITSELF OVER AND OVER ANNUALLY. FOR A TOTAL OF 8%. ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF OUR EMPLOY EMPLOYERS IS THE 3% CAN BE PAID OUT AFTER THE TAX BENEFIT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. SO, THEY HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SPREAD OUT OVER THE ENTIRE YEAR. BASED ON MAINTAINING OUR TAX RATE, OF COURSE, IMPACTS OUR LOCAL OPTION RECEIPTS RELATIVE TO OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTY AN BALANCED BUDGET. AND WE, OF COURSE, HAD, CUNRON AND HIS ASSOCIATES WORK THE PROPOSED BUDGET INTO THE FIVE YEAR FISCAL PLAN. AND WE'RE STILL MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO IT. AND OF COURSE, WE'LL TAKE ADJUSTMENTS THAT THE COUNCIL REQUESTS TODAY AND TOMORROW THAT I AGREE TO. WHEN I PRESENT THE ORDINANCE, WE'LL TAKE THOSE IN CONSIDERATION. AND WE'LL GET THAT BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST WHEN WE GET READY TO FORMERLY INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE. WITH THAT, WHOSE UP FIRST HERE?
>> HUMAN RESOURCES IS UP FIRST. >> MAYOR JAMES BRAINARD: LISA, COME UP FOR THIS TIME TO DO THIS. YOU GET TO SIT BY ME AND PULL THE MICROPHONE OVER. WHAT WE NORMALLY DO, AND IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO COUNCIL IS ONLY HIGHLIGHT THE CHANGES FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. SO, WE DON'T GO
THROUGH EVERY LINE ITEM. AND WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE. >> ANYBODY HAVE OBJECTIONS TO
THAT? >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S FOLLOW THAT PLAN. AND WE WILL BE ALSO SHOWING ON THE BOARD WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. GOOD MORNING, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED WITH THE COLO FOR THE EMPLOYEES, I WANTED TO ADDRESS A CITY WIDE CONCERN AND THAT IS THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND. WE CONTINUE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR HEALTH INSURANCE FUNDS BUT PLANS HAVE INCREASED AND WE'RE PLANNING ON A 9% INCREASE FOR OUR HEALTH INSURANCE FOR 2023.
>> MAYOR JAMES BRAINARD: LET ME ELABORATE ON THAT, LEASE IS A. ORIGINALLY, WE LOOKED AT 17% AND AFTER TALKING WITH EMPLOYEES AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, WE MADE THE DECISION, WE THINK THAT WE COULD GO SLOW, AND OKAY, BREAK THAT UP OVER TWO YEARS. SO, IT WILL BE ANOTHER 8 OR 9% INCREASE FOR 2024 AS WELL. SO, WE WENT A NUMBER OF YEARS WITH OUR HEALTH INSURANCE WITHOUT INCREASING PREMIUMS. EMPLOYEES PAY A RELATIVELY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF IT. IN RETROSPECT, I WISH WE HAD INCREASED IT TWO OR THREE PERCENT EACH YEAR. BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE A BIG GAP. FOR SEVERAL YEARS IT'S BEEN A ZERO PERCENT INCREASE.
>> AND AS THE MAYOR SAID, WITH THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, THERE WAS THE 17%, AS YOU COULD SEE THE
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BUDGET HAS BEEN AMENDED AS TO REFLECT THE LOWER 9% ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE.>> SO, FOR PERSONNEL SERVICES, HUMAN RESOURCES INTENDS TO REMAIN FLAT. NEXT YEAR, AND THAT IS EVEN WITH THE COLA INCREASE. WE CONTINUE TO STAFF VERY LEANLY IN HR AND WE HAVE OVER 600 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES NOW AT THE CITY. AND WE HAVE FIVE FULL TIME POSITIONS AS WELL AS ONE PART-TIME POSITION. HOW WE WERE ABLE TO REMAIN FLAT IS THAT I HAVE ADAPTED ONE OF THE POSITIONS, AFTER SOME DISAPPOINTMENTS DEVELOPMENTS, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ADAPTING A MANAGER-LEVEL POSITION INTO A COORDINATOR ROLE. SO THAT THIS POSITION WILL BE ABLE TO COOR COORDINATE AS WELL AS FACILITATE TRAINING FOR ALL STAFF AND THIS ROLE WILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT OTHER HR FUNCTIONING WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
>> MAYOR JAMES BRAINARD: YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR, WE ALSO DID A PANDEMIC-RELATED, ONE-TIME BONUS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. I'M PROPOSING THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR. WE'VE TAKEN A CLOSE LOOK AT WHAT OTHER ENTITIES AND COUNTIES ARE DOING AS WELL, AND WE'RE AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST. BUT NOT BY A LOT. BUT, AS WE DO THESE BONUSES. YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS. WE HAVE USED AN OUTSIDE CONSULTING FIRM, AN OUT OF STATE OUTSIDE CONSULTING FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN GOVERNMENT COMPENSATION WITH COMMUNITIES COMPARABLE TO THE CITY OF CARMEL. DOESN'T MEAN THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE IN INDIANA, WE LOOK TO THE NORTHWEST AND OTHER PLACES TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE'RE ABLE TO COMPETE FOR THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE WANT FOR OTHER PLACES LIKE CARMEL COMPETING FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES. AND, IN T LISA'S BUDGET, SHE'S PROPOSED THAT WE DO THIS AGAIN DURING CALENDAR YEAR 2023. A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS FROM VARIOUS EMPLOYEES AND UNIONS, LIKE, WHAT ABOUT THIS, AND WHAT ABOUT THAT, AND DOES THIS LINE UP WITH WHAT EVERYBODY IS DOING. INSTEAD OF DOING IT PIECE MEAL, I SAID LET'S WAIT AND PUT TOGETHER A STUDY AND LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PACKAGE AND NOT PIECE MEAL BENEFIT TO BENEFIT. HOW MUCH IS THERE IN
THAT LINE ITEM? >> THERE'S $40,000 IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO HANDLE THAT COMPENSATION. I ALSO WANTED TO ADDRESS THE TRAINING LINE IN MY BUDGET, IT DOES SHOW A SMALL DECREASE, BUT, THAT IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO BRING ON A NEW PARTNER. WE ARE WORKING WITH NEOGOV AND IMPLEMENTING A NEW LEARN PROCESS, WE'RE IN THE BEGINNING STAGES BUT IT'S A ROBUST TRAINING PROGRAM THAT WILL GIVE OUR EMPLOYEES ACCESS TO MANY, MANY TOPICS.
EVERYTHING FROM COMPUTER USAGE TO DIVERSITY TRAINING TO SAFETY TRAINING. SO, IT WILL BE A WIDE BREATH OF INFORMATION OUR EMPLOYEES WILL HAVE ACCESS TO GET MORE EMPLOYEE DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE DO, AS WELL, PLAN ON CONTINUING TO LOOK FOR A PARTNER THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH TO GET SOME OF THE DEI TRAINING. AND THEN, IN MY HARDWARE LINE, I'VE ASKED FOR A SMALL INCREASE IN THERE, AND THE REASON IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND OUR TECHNOLOGY RESOURCES TO SUPPORT THE HUMAN RESOURCES FUNCTION. WE HAVE A TRAINING PRODUCT AND AN ON-BOARDING PRODUCT LAST YEAR AND WITH THESE PRODUCTS IT REQUIRES THAT EMPLOYEES HAVE ACCESS TO COMPUTERS TO BE ABLE TO USE THEM. AND NOT EVERY EMPLOYEE IN THE CITY HAS A COMPUTER ASSIGNED TO THEM. SO, WE'RE LOOKING TO PURCHASE TABLET THAT IS WE CAN DEPLOY TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TRAININGS REGARDLESS OF IF THEIR JOBS REQUIRE A COMPUTER DAILY OR NOT.
IT'S A FIRST STEP TO START THE PROCESS WITHIN HUMAN RESOURCES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER GREENE?
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>> YOU HAD MENTIONED EARLIER OVER 600 CITY EMPLOYEES NOW? >> YES.
>> WHAT'S THE NUMBER TOTAL? >> AS OF YESTERDAY WE HAD 605 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.
>> OKAY. NOW, SOMETIMES THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACTIVE EMPLOYEES AND UNFILLED
POSITIONS. HOW MANY POSITIONS DO YOU HAVE? >> I'M NOT SURE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD HOW MANY POSITIONS WE CURRENTLY HAVE OPEN. BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL POSITIONS OPEN IN MULTIPLE AREAS WITHIN THE CITY. AND I'M HAPPY TO FIND OUT THAT INFORMATION AND SEND IT
TO YOU. >> IT YOU COULD. >> ABSOLUTELY
>> YOU KNOW, IN TODAY'S MARKET THERE'S LOTS OF VACANCIES. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IMPACT IT COULD HAVE ON THE CITY IF WE HAVE 605 EMPLOYEES AND A NUMBER OF OPEN POSITIONS.
>> I'LL FIND OUT THAT NUMBER FOR YOU. >> MAYOR JAMES BRAINARD: SO, ANY QUESTIONS, JUST GO AHEAD AND SEND IT TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, IF YOU WOULD.
>> I WILL, THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER FINKLE. >> DO WE GO BACK ON THE MARKET REGARDING THE HEALTH INSURANCE, TO DETERMINE IF THERE ARE OTHER VENDORS TO GET A COST NEUTRAL OR
LOWER OUR COST OF INSURANCE? >> SURE, I'M CURRENTLY WORKING WITH OUR BROKER STILL TO SECURE OUR RATES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HURTS US IN THE RENEWAL IS THE STOP LOSS RECOVERY SERVICES.
THE RESULT IS HINDERING THAT POSITIVE RENEWAL ON THAT. WE'RE STILL IN THE MARKET FOR THAT, WE CAN'T GET A SECURE FINAL RATE OF OUR STOP LOSS UNTIL THE FIRST OF OCTOBER.
>> ARE WE UP TO $100,000, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH US? >> I'M INTERESTED WHEN YOU SAY
WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE THERE. >> SURE, THE STOP LOSS KICKS IN AT $200,000, SO, ONCE A CLAIMANT HITS $200,000 OF A CLAIM, THAT INSURANCE POLICY KICKS IN AND REIMBURSES OUR HEALTH FUND FOR ANYTHING OVER THAT AMOUNT. IT'S LIKE AN INSURANCE ON THE INSURANCE OR THEM BEING SELF-SURED. UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE HAD, I BELIEVE FIVE OR SIX CLAIMANTS ON THAT, SO, OUR RENEWAL IS GOING TO BE A BIT HIGHER THAN IT HAS BEEN IN PAST YEARS AND OUR BROKER WANTS TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THE BEST RATE POSSIBLE WHICH IS WHY WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE MOST DATA IN
THAT WE CAN BEFORE LOCK IN OUR RATES. >> AND I NOTICED THAT OUR TWO PLANS ARE PRETTY PAR WITH EACH OTHER, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT INCENTIVIZING MORE OF THE HIGHER DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, LOWER RATES TO TAKE ON MORE RISKS BY THE EMPLOYEES. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT INCENTIVIZING THE CITY TO TAKE ON RISKS. FOR THE MEDICAL REIMBURSEMENT FUND. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT PLAN.
>> WE HAVE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT THINGS AND THIS YEAR IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING A FAVORABLE LOOK ON OUR RENEWAL. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH THE BROKER TO SEE IF WE NEED PLAN STRUCTURE. MAY BE OFFERING ONE OPTION AS OPPOSED TO TWO. MAY BE WE INCREASE CO-PAYS OR INCENTIVIZE NETWORK USAGE. IT MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST YEAR TO DO THIS THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF OUR HIGH RATES AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY'RE WORRIED THAT THEY CAN IMPACT OUR
RENEWAL. >> IS OUR CLINIC USAGE STILL GOOD?
>> IT IS. I JUST MET WITH THEM YESTERDAY AND WE'RE NOT HIGH 90S PERCENT OF USAGE OF OUR AVAILABLE TIME SLOTS WHICH THEY'VE SAID IS COMPLETELY UNHEARD OF. WE HAVE GREAT ATTENDANCE, PEOPLE UTILIZING THE APPOINTMENT ARE SHOWING UP FOR THE APPOINTMENTS. I THINK IT'S
A GREAT ASSET TO OUR EMPLOYEES. >> THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD ANE
ANECDOTALLY AS WELL. >> IF I COULD TAKE OFF ON THAT, TOO, THIS IS IRRELEVANT, WELL, NOT REALLY TO THE BUDGET BECAUSE IT COULD IMPACT THE BUDGET OVER TIME, BUT, WE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO FULL-TIME CLINIC HOURS. AND, WE JUST DON'T HAVE QUITE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO DO THAT YET.
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SO, I ASKED, THE UNIVERSITY TO LOOK INTO WHETHER ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES GOES ON MEDICARE. AND THEIR FAMILY, BUT THEY'RE NO LONGER EMPLOYED, WHETHER THEY CONTINUE TO USE THEIR MEDICARE BENEFITS AT OUR CLINIC IF THEY'VE BEEN AN EMPLOYEE FOR A PERIOD OF YEARS. THAT WOULD GET THE ECONOMY AS A SCALE UP TO A POINT WHERE WE WOULD HAVE FULLEN-TIME OPENINGS, AND MAKE THE CLINIC MORE EFFICIENT ON A PER PERSON AND WE ACCEPT THAT MONEY FROM MEDICARE TO HELP OPERATE THE CLINIC AS ANY OTHER PROVIDER WOULD. SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY BARRIERS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, AND IT MIGHT BE A WAY WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND ANY OTHER HEALTH INSURANCE MONEY, WHICH IS MOSTLY TAXPAYER MONEY, TO GET THOSE HOURS UP FULL-TIME AND MAKE THE CLINIC MORE EFFICIENT THAN IT ISMENT SO, THE RENEWAL FOR THE CLINIC IS UP IN '24, OR THE END OF '23. IT'S THE END OF '22, SO IT'S TIME TO TALK TO OUR PROVIDERS TO LOOK ATTHOSE THINGS. >> IT'S SUCH A DYNAMIC SPACE WE HAVE TO BE AGGRESSIVE WITH IT.
AND THE DIVERSITY TRAINING, I JUST ASKED THAT AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT VENDORS WE DON'T PICK SOMETHING UP THAT HAS A STACKED PRODUCT OFF THE SHELF. WE NEED TOOLS FOR OUR STAFF TO SUPPORT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THEY SERVE. AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY GROUPS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY, IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE OUR LAST VENDOR WAS PREPARED TO ADDRESS THOSE COMMUNITY GROUPS.
AND I ASK THAT WE ABSOLUTELY MAKE SURE THAT PRODUCT CAN HELP OUR EMPLOYEES ON THE STREET, IN THEIR OFFICES, DO THEIR JOB BETTER. THAT'S THE WHOLE INTENT OF IT, RIGHT?
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK. I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK AT THAT.
> ON THAT SAME LINE, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ABOUT THE EQUITY MANAGER POSITION, HAS THAT POSITION BEEN ELIMINATED OR MODIFIED? GIVE ME DETAIL ON THAT.
>> SO, THE POSITION IS NOT FILLED. AND IT'S BEEN MODIFIED. SO, MY INTENT IS TO BRING SOMEONE IN AS A TRAINING EMPLOYEE, EXCUSE ME, EMPEMPLOYE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THEM I GUESS, HAVE TRAINING BE A FUNCTION OF THEIR JOB, BUT THEN ALSO, I LOOK AT AS MYSELF, AS THE DIRECTOR WOULD PROBABLY BE HANDLING MORE OF THE STRATEGY SO THAT THE DIRECTOR IS DIRECTING THAT STRATEGY OF IT. BUT, YEAH, THEY CAN GO OUT AND SOURCE AND DO SOME OF THAT
RESEARCH. >> GOT IT. AND SO, PRIOR TO HAVING AN EQUITY MANAGER, WE DID
NOT HAVE ANYONE SOLELY FOCUSED ON TRAINING? >> WE HAD AN EMPEMPLOYEE
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR, WHICH IS WHAT I'M REVERTING BACK TO. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HANNON. >> WE DID COVER THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE, AND ONE OF THE WAYS SHE WAS ABLE TO KEEP HER SALARY LINE FLAT, MOST ARE SAYING THE 8% THAT THE MAYOR MENTION WAS RECLASSIFYING THAT HIGHER LEVEL EQUITY DIRECTOR AS A MORE GENERIC'S NOT THE BEST TERM, BUT MORE BROAD-BASED TRAINING COORDINATOR, WHICH CERTAINLY I SUPPORT. WE ALSO DISCUSSED PER COUNCIL MEMBER FINKLE'S COMMENTS LOOKING AT EMPLOYEE DEVELOPMENT MANAGEMENT, NOT JUST DEI. I CERTAINLY HONOR BARBARA LAMB'S EXPERIENCE BUT IT'S NOT TO HAVE A NEW SET OF EYES ON THAT, SINCE THE DIRECTOR WAS ENCOURAGED TO USE HER SET OF EYES TO LOOK AT WHAT WE COULD IMPROVE AND I THINK ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT WE DISCUSSED BEYOND EMPLOYEE DEVELOPMENT IS HOW WE GET THAT RIGHT BALANCE OF STANDARDIZING CORE HR FUNCTIONS ACROSS THE ENTIRE ENTERPRISE AND ALLOW THE INDIVIDUAL SPECIALTY EMPLOYEE DEVELOPMENT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR EXAMPLE POLICE AND FIRE, WE LOOK FORWARD TO MORE REPORTS AND YOUR PROGRESS ON THAT, AND I'VE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS AS WELL. USING NEOGOV AND OTHER STANDARDIZED TOOLS THAT SET THE BACK OFFICE FUNCTIONS OF HR OFF LOADS THAT FROM THE DEPARTMENT, STANDARDIZES IT AND I THINK,
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AROUND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> IT 1205, 1208. >> I'M SORRY, PRESIDENT RYDER,
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> I HADN'T HEARD IT MENTIONED, I WANTED IT TO BE KNOWN THAT I
AM REMOTE. >> YES. PRESIDENT RYDER IS REMOTE.
>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. JIM CRIDER DIRECT OF ADMINISTRATION FIRST THE 1205 BUDGET WHICH RUNS THE BUILDING OF CITY HALL, BUT THERE ARE A FEW OTHER ITEMS IN THERE WHICH I'LL HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS UP 18% OVER LAST YEAR, BUT IT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE OF OTHER ITEMS THAT WE USE THIS BUDGET TO PUT IN. AND I'LL GIVE YOU A RUNDOWN ON THOSE. FIRST, OF COURSE, UP IN PERSONAL SERVICES LIKE FOR EVERYONE WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN HERE TO DO THE 5% COST OF LIVING ALLOWANCE AND THE 3% ONE-TIME BONUS LATER IN THE YEAR. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LINE 4127000 THAT'S THE RETIREE HEALTH INSURANCE LINE. AND LAST YEAR THAT'S WHERE WE USED TO INJECT THE MONEY FOR THE FUNDING ON THAT LINE. THAT'S $110,000 OVER 2022. I TALKED TO LISA ABOUT THIS, AND, SHE'S HERE TO CORRECT ME IF I GET ANYTHING WRONG, BUT, ROUGHLY WE'VE BEEN SPENDING 150 TO $160,000 A QUARTER ON THAT. AND SO, THE PROJECTIONS, THEY PROJECT OUT THE NUMBER OF RETIREES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE NEXT YEAR, AND SO, THERE'S FOLKS THAT HELP HER DO THE MATH ON IT. AND THIS IS ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY THINK
THEY WILL NEED TO GET US THROUGH NEXT YEAR. >> OKAY. GOING ON DOWN, ON WORKER'S COMPENSATION. IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO CAST UNTIL YOU GET INTO IT. SO, WE HAVE TO BE PREDICTIVE, AND SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS GO BACK FIVE YEARS, SEE WHAT WE'VE SPENT, GET THE AVERAGE, AND THEN PUT A LITTLE MORE ON IT AND PUT IT IN THERE.
SO, FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE AVERAGED SENDING $273,000 ON WORKER'S COMP. AND SO, WE'VE PUT $230,000 IN HERE, BUT, UTILITIES WILL CONTRIBUTE $70,000, THAT GETS US TO $300,000, AND IT'S A PROJECTION, BUT, WE'RE ON A PACE TO HAVE ABOUT $70,000 REMAINING AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. SO, THAT WOULD PUT US UP TO $370,000, WHICH IS $100,000 MORE THAN THE FIVE YEAR AVERAGE OVERALL. SO, THAT SHOULD PUT US IN SAFE MARGINS AND KEEP US FROM HAVING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. AND IT WILL CARRY OVER, TOO. SO, IT GOES FROM HERE AND SMOOTHING IT TO A NONREVERTING FUND RIGHT AWAY. IS AND SO, IF SEAS NOT SPENT IT CARRIES OVER. RIGHT BELOW THAT LINE IS THE GENERAL INSURANCE LINE. EVERY YEAR, THAT'S GOING TO GO UP. JUST AS A REMINDER, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RATES ARE GOING TO BE UNTIL WELL AFTER THIS BUDGET'S PASSED. I MEAN, IT'S IN DECEMBER, REALLY, WHEN WE FIND OUT WHAT INSURANCE RATES AND THE PREMIUMS AND ALL WILL BE. BUT, HILANT WHO IS OUR INSURANCE BROKER DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB AND THEY DPI THROUGH A DETAILED PREDICTIVE ANALYSIS AND WE TRY TO ANTICIPATE WHAT INSURANCE RATES WILL BE. IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT'S EVENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND INSURANCE COMPANIES ALSO CARRY INSURANCE AND WHEN THEY ARE RATES GO UP, SO, EVERYTHING IT'S A I'VE LEARNED IT'S ONE OF THE MOST COMPLEX INDUSTRIES AROUND.
BUT, UM, THAT BEING SAID. WE'RE PREDICTING THAT OUR WE PAY OUR INSURANCE, AND UTILITIES PAYS
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THEIR OWN INSURANCE AND THE PARK'S DEPARTMENT PAYS THEIR OWN. AND OUTSIDE OF PARKS AND UTILITIES, THE REST OF THAT FUNDING FOR OUR INSURANCE COME FROM THIS LINE. AND RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PREDICTING THAT THE PREMIUM IN JANUARY WILL BE $1.7 MILLION. SO, THAT WILL LEAVE US A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, 250 OR SO, TO PAY CLAIMS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND AGAIN, ANYTHING THAT'S NOT USED ON THAT LINE GOES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND, BUT, HISTORICALLY, THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO COVER CLAIMS AND THINGS THAT COME ON THAT WE GET THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THE LAST THING THAT I'LL HIGHLIGHT IS THE CENSUS AND ELECTION FEES, THAT'S $150,000. EVERY FOUR YEARS. WE HAVE TO INSERT THAT MONEY IN THERE, THAT MONEY GOES TO THECOUNTY AND THAT'S JUST THE COST OF RUNNING THE ELECTION. >> ALL RIGHT, THAT'S 1205, WHO
HAS QUESTIONS? >> OKAY. >> HEY, JACOB, CAN YOU GO BACK
A PAGE? >> EQUIPMENT REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE, 4350000, IT SAYS IT
WAS 38, BUT THERE WAS $138,000 CHANGE. >> THAT'S A TYPO.
>> I KNOW I'M TIRED BUT. >> I'M SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT. BECAUSE THE NUMBER
IS THE SAME. >> SO, IT'S ZERO? >> CORRECT.
>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. >> I'M SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT, THE GOOD NEWS IS
THERE'S NO CHANGE. >> WOULD YOU HIGHLIGHT AS YOU ARE GOING THROUGH ANY OF YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY WHICH OF THESE HAPPENED TO BE WHAT THE CENTER FFOR PERFORMING ART'S BUDGET, BECAUSE MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT SOME OF YOUR BUDGETING, WHETHER IT'S UTILITIES OR THIS,
ALSO COVERS THE CPA BUDGET. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> IF THE COST OF INSURANCE DOES GO UP AFTER THE BUDGET IS APPROVED, WHERE WOULD THE MONEY COME FROM IN THE BUDGET TO PAY
THOSE INCREASED PREMIUMS? >> IF THE COST OF INSURANCE WENT UP, IF IT WAS HIGHER THAN WHAT WE PREDICTED, UM, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK YOU FOR IT. I'M CONFIDENCE, BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE WITH HILANT THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TO PAY THE PREMIUM, THIS WILL BE ENOUGH TO PAY THE PREMIUM. WORST CASE OVER THE COURSE OF LATE NEXT YEAR, WE MIGHT RUN SHORT, THEN, AT THAT TIME, WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AND IF WE HAD MONEY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE AROUND AVAILABLE THAT WE WEREN'T ON TRACK TO SPEND, I MEAN, WORST CASE, I THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETIME THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, WE WOULD START TO SEE IT SHORT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE DOESN'T MOVE IT AROUND, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK YOU FOR IT.
>> OKAY. LET'S GO TO 1208, PLEASE. >> ALL RIGHT, THE, 1208, WHICH IS CALLED BUILDING OPERATIONS BUDGET DOES PRIMARILY COVER THE COST. THERE'S NO PERSONNEL FOR THIS BUDGET, SO, THERE'S NONE OF THAT AT THE TOP. THIS IS MOSTLY FOR THE ENERGY CENTER, JAMES BUILDING OPERATION,OPERATION, C PERFORMING ARTS OPERATIONS AND SUCH. SO, THE ONE LINE, WE DID MOVE FOR ELECTRICITY INCREASED WE PUT $8,000 IN THERE, BUT WE MOVE IT HAD FROM THE LINE FOR OIL. WE DON'T PURCHASE OIL. SO, WE REALLY JUST MOVED THAT $8,000 FROM THAT LINE DOWN TO
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ELECTRICITY, BECAUSE ELECTRICITY WILL BE GOING UP THIS YEAR. WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO ENCUMBER MONEY THAT REMAINS IN THE ELECTRICITY LINE FROM THE END OF 2021 INTO 2022. THAT'S HELPED US THIS YEAR WITH INCREASED ELECTRICITY COST. WE HAVEN'T HAD TO ASK THE COUNCIL FOR NEW MONEY. WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE THROUGHOUT THE END OF THIS YEAR. AND WE PLAN TO DO THE SAME, IF WE HAVE MONEY LEFTOVER IN THE ELECTRICITY LINE, WE WILL ENCUMBER THIS INTO THE NEXT YEAR. IT'S COME USED FOR ELECTRICITY, AND IT'S IN THIS BUDGET, AND INEVITABLY, THAT COST WILL GO UP. AND THAT RAISE WAS MOVING IT INTERNALLY, I THINK THAT WE'LL HAVE ENOUGHGOING FORWARD BUT WE'LL SEE HOW THINGS GO. >> THE ONLY OTHER THING RIGHT BELOW ELECTRICITY, WATER AND SEWER, WE WENT BACK AND DID AN AVERAGE AND SAW THAT WE WERE PAYING ABOUT $2,900 A MONTH, SO, WE RAISED THAT LINE APPROPRIATELY THIS YEAR. AND THEN THE LAST ONE, COUNCILOR HANNON TO YOUR POINT, THE OTHERS 4350100, THIS IS THE LINE THAT PAYS THE MONTHLY COST TO OPERATE THE JAMES BUILDING, AND THEN THE OPERATIONAL COSTS FOR THE PALADIUM BUILDING ITSELF. AND WE PAY ELECTRICITY FOR THAT ITSELF. THAT'S ONE OF THOSE LINES WHERE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THINGS WILL COST UNTIL WE GET IT, SO, WE LOOKED HISTORICALLY, AND RAISED IT 5% THIS YEAR AND SO FAR IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE BEEN GOOD ON THE NUMBER
AND WE'VE COME IN CLOSE. SO. >> SO, ON THE 0900, THAT'S THE, IS THAT THE MANAGEMENT FEE, OPERATIONAL FEES, CAPITAL EQUIPMENT, WHAT'S BAKED INTO THAT FIRST?
>> WELL, FOR THE PALADIUM ITSELF, IT'S THE OPERATIONAL COST FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF.
SO, IF THEY HAVE REPAIRS. A LOT OF IT IS CLEANING. AND THE THINGS THAT COST TO OPERATE THE
BUILDING, REPAIRS, MAINTENANCE, AND CLEANING THE BUILDING. >> ON THE FACILITIES LINE, WHAT ARE THE PERCENTAGE THAT SERVE THAT AND WHAT ARE THE PERCENTAGE OF THE FACILITIES. ?
>> THEY SEND US A RECEIPT FOR EVERY SINGLE THING. SO, WE HAVE A RECEIPT AND A SUMMARY SHEET ON TOP THAT IS SENT EVERY MONTH. AND BEHIND THAT IS A RECEIPT FOR EVERY SINGLE THING AND THAT DOES
INCLUDE ELECTRICITY THEY GET FOR THAT BUILDING. >> AND THAT 0900 IS OPERATIONAL
OR EQUIPMENT COST? >> THAT'S REALLY OPERATIONAL COST. I'M TRYING TO GO BACK IN MY MIND TO THINK IF WE'VE EVER BOUGHT ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT LIKE CAPITAL FROM THAT LINE. CHAIRS, I THINK THERE WERE SOME CHAIRS ONE TIME. LIKE SOME CHAIRS IN A ROOM THAT THEY DID. BUT, WE'RE NOT BUYING LIKE, GIANT NEW SEATINGS, OR STAGE EXTENSIONS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. I'VE NEVER
PAID FOR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER GREEN? >> OF THE $2.8 MILLION IN THAT 900 COUNT HOW MUCH GOES TO THE
PALADIUM? >> HOW MUCH OF THAT $2.8 MILLION GOES SPECIFICALLY
FOR THE PALADIUM. >> JIM, YOU HAVE A THIRD BUDGET, ARE YOU PREPARED TO GO THROUGH IT NOW, WHEN WE DID THE REVIEW, YOU HAD THREE FOLDERS, OR DO YOU WANT TO COME BACK.
>> I'LL COME BACK. KEEP IT IN ORDER. JACOB'S GOT IT TEE, UP THAT WAY.
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>> WE WILL MOVE ONTO CONTROLLER'S OFFICE, 1701. >> GOOD MORNING. AS I SHARED WITH JEFF AND KEVIN WHEN I MET WITH THEM, OTHER THAN OUR TOTAL PERSONNEL SERVICES WE KEPT OUR BUDGET FLAT. THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE POSITION OF THE CONTROLLERS OFFICE. I ALWAYS LIKE TO REITERATE WE TAKE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUSLY. AND, SO, WE ALWAYS LOOK AT OUR LINE ITEMS SO THAT WE CAN REALLOCATE THOSE NON-WAGE, NON-INSURANCE RELATED EXPENSES.
SO, THERE ARE NO CHANGES IN TERMS OF PERSONAL SERVICES OTHER THAN THE 8.15%. BUT, BASICALLY, YOU'RE FIVE AND THREE IN CREASE IN PAY ROLL AND THEN, ALSO, YOU'LL SEE THE INCREASE OF THE REQUIRED 9% PREMIUM. SO, THE ONLY CHANGES WE REALLY MADE WERE THOSE THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY IS MAKING. THERE ARE SOME IN THE NON-PERSONNEL SERVICES CATEGORIES, THERE ARE SOME SMALL INCREASES. DIANE AND I LOOKED AT THE PERSONAL HISTORY OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING AND AS EVERYONE INCLUDING THE MAYOR'S POINTED OUT, THERE'S BEEN SOME INFLATION. SO, WE DO HAVE SOME SMALL INCREASES IN SUPPLIES. SO, THOSE ARE FAIRLY IMMATERIAL, WE DO HAVE AN INCREASE IN OUR SOVOS FEE AND IT'S AN ENTITY THAT WE USE TO HANDLE ALL OF THE 1099S IN THE CITY AND WE'VE NOT HAD AN INCREASE FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S, MOST LIKELY, INFLATION RELATED AS WELL. THE ONE INCREASE THAT YOU WILL SEE ON OTHER ACCOUNTING FEES OF $4,000, THAT IS AN ONE-TIME INCREASE AND IT IS AN OFF CYCLE PAY ROLL FOR ADP. WE HAD THE SAME SITUATION ARISE WHEN WE DID THE PREMIUM PAY PAYMENT. HOWEVER, THAT WAS NOT IN OUR BUDGET BECAUSE IT WAS COVERED AS PART OF THE GRANT AND THAT WAS ALLOWED TO BE REMITTED THROUGH THE GRANT MONEY WE RECEIVED. THIS IS A ONE-OFF. WE DID OFFSET IT WITH THE COPIER LINE. WE DECIDED TO LEASE A COPIER TO SAVE US MONEY INSTEAD OF MAKING AN EXPENDITURE. THAT'S WHERE WE OFF SET THAT.
AND THEN WE NEED SOME FURNITURE, UM, I'M NOT REPLACING MINE, I STILL HAVE DIANA'S DESK, BUT, IT'S SOLID WOOD SO IT'S GOOD. BUT, SOME OF THE OTHER EMPLOYEES HAVE, I WOULD SAY MORE CONTEMPORARY KIND OF FURNITURE THAT IS NOT IN GOOD CONDITION. SO, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THAT AND THEN, WE'RE SWAPPING THAT OUT WITH THE COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT REDUCTION. SO, ALL IN ALL IF YOU LOOK AT THE INCREASE IN PERSONAL SERVICES AND THE TOTAL INCREASE TO THE BUDGET,
YOU'RE SEEING WHERE THE INCREASE IS. >> ANY QUESTIONS? THAT SHOULD BE A COMPLIMENT TO YOU, THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE A TIGHT BUDGET.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? >> I WOULD SAY ONE THING, JEFF AND KEVIN BROUGHT IT UP IN THE MEETING REGARDING THE OFF CYCLE PAYROLL FOR ADP, COULD WE RUN ONE PAYROLL FOR IT AND THE ANSWER IS NOT VERY EASILY. WHEN YOU DO THE BONUS PAY THERE'S A NUMBER OF BENEFITS AND FLAGS THAT NEED TO BE TURNED OFF IN ADP, SO, YOU CAN'T RESET THE ADP SYSTEM FOR BENEFITS. THE BONUS PAY WON'T INCLUDE BENEFITS. THERE'LL BE NO INSURANCE, THINGS OF THAT SORT. SO, REALLY YOU HAVE TO SET THE FLAGS IN THE SYSTEM A CERTAIN WAY. AND, UM, ALSO, WE'RE HEAVILY AUDITED ON P PAYROLL AND WE WERE ON PREMIUM PAY AND THEY WILL ASK FOR THAT SPECIFIC FILE AND LOOK FOR DETAIL TO TIE IT ALL OUT. SO,
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IT'S A LOT CLEANER FROM AN AUDIT PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. BUT, THAT WAS A QUESTION THEY ASKED AND I THOUGHT SOME OF YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD THAT QUESTION AS WELL, SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS IT.>> EXCELLENT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. EXCELLENT. THAT'S
VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE ONTO 1702, CITY CLERK. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. SO SUE WOLFGANG, CITY CLERK. MY BUDGET IS SIMPLE. THE ONLY INCREASE IS THE 5% COLA, AND THE 3% AND THE 9% IN PERSONAL SERVICES. EVERYTHING ELSE, SUPPLIES AND SERVICES ARE THE SAME. I'VE MOVED BALANCES AROUND HERE AND THERE, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS EXACTLY AS IT IS
IN 2022. >> HAVE YOU BEGAN TO LOOK AT ANY COSTS THAT WILL HAPPEN AS A
RESULT WHEN YOU MOVE INTO THE NEW SPACE? >> WE HAVE LOOKED AT IT BUT HAVEN'T PUT ANYTHING ON PAPER. THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THIS BUDGET THAT IF WE NEED TO START PURCHASING THINGS FOR NEXT YEAR, THAT WILL BE THERE FOR US. BUT, AS FAR AS DEFINITE COST I HAVE
NONE AT THIS TIME. >> I WOULD LOOK AT THIS MAY BE IN THE NEXT YEAR, IF THERE'S A CHANCE TO SPREAD, INSTEAD OF DOING IT ALL IN ONE BUDGET WHEN YOU DO THE MOVE, DOING IT IN
ADVANCE, THAT MAY BE A GOOD IDEA. >> THANK YOU. SUE, FOR KEEPING YOUR BUDGET FLAT. WE MET WITH YOU WITH REGARDS TO THE MOVE, WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT MOST OF THE COSTS INCLUDING THE FURNITURE, WAS THE FFE FURNITURE FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT IS BUILT INTO THE BUDGET FOR THAT. BUT, I WAS A BIT SURPRISED THAT ALL OF YOUR STAFF WILL BE MOVING OVER THERE, SO, THERE'LL BE SHUTTLING BACK AND FORTH, JACOB AND HIS CREW, A GREAT, NEW FACILITY BUT NOT
CO-LOCATED WITH THE CITY NOW. >> THERE'LL BE A LEARNING CURVE, BUT, I INK THIS IT WILL WORK OUT. DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT ONCE IN A WHILE KEEPS THINGS FRESH.
>> RIGHTMENT AGAIN, THANK YOU. >> I DID WANT TO SAY ONE THING, COUNCILOR HAS HANNON TALKED ABOUT MY WISH LIST AND ONE OF THE THING THAT I TALKED ABOUT WAS CREATING SOME SORT OF STREAM LINED TRANSPARENT SYSTEM FOR VENDORS AND CONTRACTORS TO SUBMIT BIDS. AND SINCE I TALKED TO YOU GUYS, I TALKED TO TIMOTHY REDDIC IN IT. AND ON HIS WISH LIST, IT'S KIND OF USING GETTING AN ERP SYSTEM WHERE WE'RE COMBINING PURCHASING AND PROCUREMENT, YOU KNOW, BID PROCESSING, ALL OF IT, AND SEVERAL OTHER THINGS UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA. SO, CENTRALIZING A LOT OF THESE FUNCTIONS. MY PARTICULAR INTEREST IN A BID SYSTEM MAY BECOME MOOT, OR A SHARED SYSTEM BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS OR IT MAY BE ALL OUT OF ICS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
>> AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, AND WE IS IT DISCUSS THAT AND WE TALKED ABOUT BAKING THAT INTO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. AND OUR ADVISE IS DO YOUR DILIGENCE NOW. I'M FOR SOMETHING THAT MAKES THINGS MORE TRANSPARENT. I DID NOT ASK DIRECTOR BINGHAM, BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE EIP, WE NEED A MODERN ORGANIZATION AND ANY OF THOSE ARE GOOD INVESTMENTS. WE HAVE GREAT EXAMPLES OF TECHNOLOGY SAVING TAXPAYERS MONEY. THE ONE THAT COMES TO MIND IS THE UTILITIES, WITH THEIR AUTOMATED METER READING, THAT THIS MORE THAN PAYS FOR IT CISSELF. THANK YOU BRINGING THAT UP. I CERTAINLY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND
WE LOOK FORWARD TO MR. RESNICK'S PRESENTATION AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.
NEXT LET'S DO MR. RESNICK'S, INFORMATION COMMUNICATION, 1115. I ADDED IN AN S.
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>> TIMOTHY DIRECTOR OF THE ICS DEPARTMENT. GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. BEFORE GETTING STARTED, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE DIRECTOR HART'S, AND HER EFFORTS OF GETTING A LEARNING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IN HERE, FOR THE TECHNOLOGY FOR THE CITY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AS TECHNOLOGY KEEPS GETTING PUSHED LOWER AND LOWER, THE EMPLOYEE, YOU KNOW, FRAMEWORK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET TRAINING FOR RETENTION, EFFICIENCY, AND EMPLOYEE SATISFACTION.
>> THANK YOU. >> SO, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY PAGE. WE DO LIKE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND ALSO, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS, WE HAVE LINE IN THERE WERE IT'S A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS HERE AND THERE.
(INDISCERNIBLE). >> MAYOR JAMES BRAINARD: SO, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO LINE BY LINE OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO THE LINES WITH THE MOST MOVEMENT?
>> YES, TELL US THE CHANGES. YOU KNOW, THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN WHATEVER ORDER THAT
YOU WANT TO DO IT IN. >> OKAY. LOOKING AT THE FIRST PAGE -- AND THEN I THOUGHT I WOULD FINISH UP, WE HAD A DISCUSSION LAST YEAR ABOUT CAMERAS, I THOUGHT THAT IN THE END, I WOULD GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH SOME OF THE CAMERA TECHNOLOGY.
>> LOOKING AT THE FIRST PAGE DOWN TO LINE 42-380, SMALL TOOLS AND MINOR EQUIPMENT THERE'S AN INCREASE ON THAT ONE FOR SINCE WE HAVE EXPANDED OUR FIBER NETWORK FOR FIBER CASES, PATCH PANELS, SINCE WE HAVE ENLARGED THAT NETWORK, SINCE THE ICS DEPARTMENT DOES IT'S OWN LOCATES, MORE FLAGS AND THINGS TO PUT ON THE GROUND. GOING DOWN TO CONSULTING FEES, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL $40,000 IN THAT ONE. $20,000 OF THAT IS BEING MOVED UP FROM LINE 41955 AND THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL $20,000 THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR SINCE IT'S CONSULTING FEES FOR HELPING US TO IMPLEMENT NEW TECHNOLOGY PROGRAMMING. ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING, ASSISTANCE FROM THE
OUTSIDE AND VARIOUS OTHER CONSULTING SERVICES. >> AND THEN THE NEXT LINE WITH MAJOR MOVEMENT IS THE 43 HSH 41955 WHICH I MENTIONED AND WE MOVED THE $20,000 OUT OF THAT ONE INTO 404. NEXT LINE, IS 43-440, AND THAT'S TELEPHONE LINE CHARGES, AN ADDITIONAL $13,000 IN THAT AND THAT'S DUE TO INCREASE IN CITY PHONE CVIS SERVICES AND EMERGENCY PHONE LINES FOR NEW PARKING GARAGES COMING ON LINE. NEXT LINE WOULD BE 43-442, THAT'S INTERNET LINE CHARGES, AN ADDITIONAL $950 FOR INCREASED INTERNET BAND WIDTH NEEDS FOR THE CITY. ADDITIONAL FOR THE MICROSOFT CLOUD AND WE HAD AN AGREEMENT THROUGH THE HOOSIER HERITAGE. AND THAT AGREEMENT IS GOING AWAY. WE WERE USING THAT BAND WIDTH FOR THE BODYCAMS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO, WE NEEDED TO ADD ADDITIONAL BAND WIDTH BECAUSE THAT AGREEMENT IS GOING AWAY.
NEXT LINE IS 43-408, LE ELECTRICITY, THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL COST FOR THE DATA CENTER BEING BUILT, SINCE IT'S BRAND NEW, WE HAVE NO BENCH MARK NUMBERS FOR THAT. AND FOR THE DEPARTMENT'S MOVE TO THE TOWNSHIP BUILDING, WE'RE UNSURE WHAT THE COST WILL BE FOR THAT
EITHER. >> NEXT LINE IS 43-500, THAT'S GOING DOWN $25,000, BECAUSE WE REMOVED A ONE-TIME PROJECT FROM THERE. SO, THAT LINE IS DECREASING. NEXT IS 43-509 OTHER CONTRACTED SERVICES. THAT LINE WILL INCREASE $28,538. AND, THAT IS AN INCREASE FOR
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CITY'S AV ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. ADDITIONAL COST FOR THE EOC AND ADDING THE COURTS AND THE MIDTOWN TV FOR THAT CONTRACT. AND ADDITIONAL FOR ADDING UTILITIES DEPARTMENT FOR ALARM MONITORING. AND THE NEXT ONE IS 43-501. THAT LINE IS REDUCED AND THAT'S DUE TO EXPIRING EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS AND AGED EQUIPMENT THAT'S BEEN REMOVED THAT WE'RE NO LONGER DOING MAINTENANCE ON. SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS THAT LINE IS GOING DOWN $715,000 AND WE'RE CONSOLIDATING SOME MONEY FROM THAT THERE 556 WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING SUBSCRIPTION OR CLOUD SERVICES. NEXT LINE IS 43-525, AND THAT IS $36,000 ADDITION FOR RENT FOR THE TOWNSHIP BUILDING WHICH THE ICS IS MOVING DOWN TO. THE NEXT LINE ITEM IS 43-556 WHICH IS SUBSCRIPTION SOFTWARE, THIS IS THE LINE ITEM WITH THE MOST MOVEMENT IT'S AN ADDITIONAL $219,129 AND A GOOD PORTION OF THAT IS THE MICROSOFT CONTRACT. THE WAY THAT CONTRACT WORKS IS EVERY THREE YEARS WE GET AN ENTERPRISE AGREEMENT WITH MICROSOFT, YOU COULD CHOOSE TO PAY UP FRONT OR PAY IT YEARLY, WE DO PAY IT YEARLY ON THAT ONE BECAUSE IT MAKES IT EASIER TO BUDGET FOR. BUT, MICROSOFT GETS YOU, IN THAT THROUGH THIS CONTRACT YOU CAN ALWAYS ADD ADDITIONAL LICENSES BUT YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE END OF CONTRACT TO REMOVE CONTRACTS.THE PRICE OF THAT WITH THE NEW CONTRACT ISN'T GOING TO GO UP AND WE HAVE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL LICENSES THAT WE HAD ON DIFFERENT CONTRACTS INTO OUR ENTERPRISE AGREEMENT TO STREAMLINE WILL THE COST AND THE MAINTENANCE OF IT. SO, THAT'S WHY THAT'S GOING UP. IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, THERE'S ALSO COST INCREASES FOR CITY WORKS THAT'S GOING UP 5-7% EACH YEAR, THAT'S ALSO THE LINE ITEM FOR LICENSE PLATE READING CAMERAS. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REQUESTED MORE OF THOSE, SO, WE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL 45,000. AND THEN ADDITIONAL $15,000 FOR INCREASING NETWORK MANAGING SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE. 44-628.01, SPECIAL PROJECTS, THAT'S A DECREASE OF $12,205 AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAD A LEASE THAT FINISHED SO WE ARE REMOVING THAT. THE NEXT IS 44-602.01, A DECREASE OF $46,873 DUE TO AN EXPIRING LEASE AND A REMOVAL OF A ONE-TIME PURCHASE. 44-64402, SOFTWARE, A DECREASE OF $19,050, AGAIN, EXPIRING LEASE AND REMOVAL OF THE SOFTWARE. AND 44-650.01, CARS AND TRUCKS, A DECREASE OF $19,102 DUE TO AN EXPIRING LEASE ON A VEHICLE. SO, THAT'S THE MAJOR MOVEMENT IN THE ICS DEPARTMENT. OKAY. VERY
GOOD, TIMOTHY, LET'S START AT THIS END, COUNCILOR CAMPBELL? >> I NOTICED WATCHING THE PLANNED COMMISSION THE OTHER NIGHT ON TV, IT STILL SEEMS FUZZY, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WATCHES IT, IS IT THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS HERE OR IS IT SOMETHING NOT TRANSMITTING WELL TO THE GOVERNMENT CHANNEL? I JUST EXPECTED IN THIS DAY THAT IT WOULD BE A CLEARER, CRISPER
PICTURE. >> I'LL CHECK IN THAT AND GET BACK TO YOU, UNFORTUNATELY, AS YOU COULD IMAGINE, THERE'S EQUIPMENT THERE, AND THERE, AND THERE'S BAND WIDTH THAT COULD BE IMPACTING THAT. AND IT COULD BE IMPACTED BY THE DISTRIBUTION OF WHERE IT IS TOO.
LET'S ME GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE. >> WERE YOU WATCHING ON THE
CABLE CHANNEL? >> YES. THE GOVERNMENT CHANNEL.
>> BECAUSE WE'VE GOT ALL KNOW HD CAMERAS THAT WE DID WHEN WE UPGRADED AND WE'RE BROADCASTING
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IN HD, SO IT'S A FUNCTION OF HOW WE'RE PICKING IT UP? >> ALL RIGHT. COUNCILOR GREEN.
>> WHAT'S THE LAST TIME YOU DID A BIG STRATEGIC PLAN? >> IT ENDED THIS YEAR, IN 2022.
AND I WANTED TO DO THE NEW ONE FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS IS APPROPRIATE TIMEFRAME FOR TECHNOLOGY, BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE SO MUCH. BUT, TO BE HONEST, I GOT BEHIND, SO, THE
PLAN IS TO HAVE ONE FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. >> FOR SOME REASON I RECALLED WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF YEARS THAT YOU CAME IN AND YOU HAD TO COMPLETELY SPIN EVERYTHING UP AND CATCH UP THE EQUIPMENT THAT THE CITY WAS OPERATING ON AN DO A LOT OF KIND OF TECH NICK WELL INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGES AND INCREASES. SO, SINCE THEN, YOU KIND OF HAVE A CONSISTENT THREE YEAR ROLLING PLAN, ARE WE ANTICIPATING ANY BIG PURCHASES NEEDING TO COME OR IS THERE KIND OF A CONSISTENT PLAN TO REFRESH THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE AND
THE VARIOUS TECHNOLOGIES? >> RIGHT. THERE'S GOING TO BE BOTH. THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL BIGGER REQUESTS FOR MORE FUNDS FOR RENEWING THAT EQUIPMENT AS IT AGES. YOU KNOW, WHAT WE TRY AND DO IS DO IT IN PHASES SO IT MAKE IT IS EASIER FOR BUDGET FOR. SO, THERE'LL BE REQUESTS COMING FOR THAT. AND THEN, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE HAVE FOCUSED THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS ON INTERNAL MODERNIZATION AND NOW THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT I WILL CREATE WILL FOCUS MORE ON ENTERPRISE, SO, ONE OF THE THINGS DISCUSSED WAS AN ERP SYSTEM AND THAT'S AN ENTERPRISE TYPE OF SYSTEM THAT GOES ACROSS DEPARTMENTS WHICH IS PRICEY. YOU KNOW, DISRUPTIVE AND PRICEY.
AND ANOTHER ONE THAT, I HAD SPOKEN WITH MIKE HALIBAH ABOUT, IS THE CITY 311 WANTS US, WHICH, AGAIN, IS ANOTHER ENTERPRISE SYSTEM. INSTEAD OF REDOG THE MY CARMEL APP, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE SYSTEM TO MANAGE THAT AND MODERNIZE SOME WORK FLOWS WHICH ARE OUT THERE. THOSE ARE
TWO ENTERPRISE INITIATIVES THAT I'M LOOKING AT. >> BECAUSE, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, NOT JUST THE EQUIPMENT, BUT, THE SOLUTIONS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY EVOLVING, AND WE HEARD FROM THE CLERK AND ALSO HUMAN RESOURCES TOUCHED ON IT. SOLUTIONS WHERE, LET'S MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS DO MULTIPLE THINGS AND, I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT YOU ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE CITY TO FIND THE SOLUTIONS TO GET THE EFFICIENCIES AND LOOKING
ON THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT. >> RIGHT. YES. >> THANK YOU.
>> DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? COUNSELOR HANNON? >> THANK YOU, THANKS FOR YOUR WORK. I KNOW, IT'S REALLY EASY AND UPSABLE TO BE SO BUSY WITH THE DAY-TO-DAY THAT THE STRATEGIC STUFF GETS PUT ASIDE. BUT, CERTAINLY WE WOULD ALL ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE THE BEST PRACTICE IN THAT. IN MANY CASES, STRATEGIC PLANS ARE FIVE TO 10 YEARS BUT THE TECHNOLOGY TO DO THAT, THE LAST THING THAT I WOULD ADD IS THAT ALTHOUGH I WOULD ALWAYS, THERE'S I THINK CONSULTANTS CAN BE HELPFUL LOOKING OUTSIDE. I'M SURE THAT YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB, BUT ANOTHER SET OF EYES LOOKING AT OUR PRACTICES, NOT JUST COMPARED TO MUNICIPALITIES BUT OTHER BEST PRACTICE HIGH RISK ORGANIZATIONS I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IN THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING NOT TO OUTSOURCE YET TO A CONSULTANT BUT USE CONSULTANTS WISELY AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENTAL PLAN.
>> OKAY. ARE THERE, COUNCILOR? COUNSELOR FINKEM? >> DID YOU WANT AN UPDATE ON
THE CAMERAS? >> YES. >> SO, 2022 WAS BRUTAL FOR SUPPLY CHAIN. WE HAD PUT IN ORDERS FOR CAMERAS AND IT'S ALMOST A YEAR BEFORE GETTING THEM IN AND WE DID WHAT WE COULD, AND CURRENTLY THERE ARE SEVEN PARKING GARAGES THAT WE
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HAVE IN THE DESIGN PHASE AND I THINK HENRY JUST SUBMITTED MORE OF THEM. AND A COUPLE OF THEM ARE IN THE CONSIDERATION PHASE TOO. WE'RE PUTTING CAMERAS ON THE ROUND ABOUTS ALALONG HAZELDALE, AND WE'RE FOCUSSING ON SMOKEY ROAD TO 116TH STREET. ENGINEERING IS INCLUDING THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN THE DIRT'S DISTURBED IN ORDER TO GET FIBER IN THOSE AREAS TO SUPPORT THE CAMERAS. WE HAVE AN AGED VMS WHICH IS VIDEO MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE BACK END OF WHAT HOLDS THE VIDEO FROM ALL THE CAMERAS, WE'RE LOOKING AT UPGRADING AND REPLACING THAT SYSTEM WITH A MORE MODERN TECHLOGICALLY ADVANCED SYSTEM. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND LOOKING AT THE DATA TO FIND STRATEGIC PLACES TO PUT CAMERAS, MAY BE A HIGHER ACCIDENT RATE OR HIGHER NEAR MISSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, WE'RE WORKING ON A STRATEGIC PLAN RIGHT TO YOU TO GET THOSE AND WE WILL BE RETRO FITTING SOME OF THE OLD TERRE CAMERAS, IN SOME OF THE EXISTING GARAGES IN ORDER TO GET BETTER RESOLUTION ON THEM. BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS. AND IT HAS TO DO WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS, THE AGE OF THE CAMERA AND THE VMS, BECAUSE, YOU COULD IMAGINE THAT WE CAN'T JUST TAKE A CAMERA THAT IS VERY HIGH RESOLUTION AND PUT THEM EVERY WHERE BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF STORAGE THAT THAT VIDEO CONSUME SUNSHINE ASTRONOMICAL. WE HAVE THE FIND THE RIGHT BALANCE FOR THE STORAGE THAT WE HAVE AND THE BEST RESOLUTION THAT WE COULD DO ON THE CAMERAS. BUT, THE OLDER CAMERAS THAT ARE NOT UP TO SNUFF WE'RE REPLACING THOSE. AND AGAIN, THERE'S ADDITIONAL LPR FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM FOR STRATEGIC LOCATIONS ON ADDITIONAL PLACES FOR PLACEMENTOF CAMERASMENT >> VERY INTERESTING. >> ON THAT CAMERA QUESTION, DO YOU HAVE THE THING WHERE YOU PLACE THE CAMERA AND YOU FIND OUT THERE'S LOW ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA AND YOU KIND OF DECIDE TO MOVE IT ELSEWHERE, HAS THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST?
>> NOT REALLY UP TO THIS POINT. >> WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON ARE THE AREAS, I'LL SAY OF INTEREST, AND THAT'S GENERIC TO MAY BE ACCIDENTS OR SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON THAT IS RELATIVELY CLOSE TO OUR EXISTING FIBER INFRASTRUCTURE. SO, YOU COULD IMAGINE THE COST OF THE CAMERA GOES UP EXPONENTIALLY THE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE CORE FIBER NETWORK, SO, WE'RE TRYING TO BOL THAT COST WITH THAT TO THE LOCATION OF CAMERAS, EVEN IF THERE'S NOT A LOT GOING ON, WE
COULD LEARN FROM THAT TOO. >> SO, BEFORE YOU PLACE IT, YOU'VE DONE ENOUGH RESEARCH THAT
THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD SPOT BEFORE IT GETS PLACED? >> YES.
>> HOW MANY CAMERAS DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE CITY? >> APPROXIMATELY 360.
>> AND THEN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES OF SOME OF THE CAMERAS, DO WE HAVE CAMERAS THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN READ THE LICENSE PLATES?
>> THOSE ARE THE FLOCK LPR CAMERAS. >> AND HOW MANY OF THOSE DO WE
HAVE? >> A LITTLE OVER 50 RIGHT NOW. >> RIGHT. NOW, THE NEWER TECHNOLOGY, THE NEWER VMS SYSTEM MIGHT ALSO DEPENDING ON THE CAMERA, YOU COULD IMAGINE FOR LICENSE PLATE READING, THEY HAVE TO BE LOWER, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING DO IN ORDER TO DO TRAFFIC STUDIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THE CAMERA HAS TO BE HIGHER AND LOOKING DOWN. SO, WHEN THAT'S PHYSICALLY HIGHER AND LOOKING DOWN AND GETTING A BROAD PICTURE OF A ROUND ABOUT, IT DOESN'T LEND ITSELF TO CATCHING THE LICENSE PLATES. SO, IT'S EASY TO THINK, LET'S PUT A CAMERA ON THERE, BUT, YOU REALLY HAVE TO SELECT NOT ONLY THE CAMERA MODEL, BUT WHERE IT SITS AND HOW HIGH IT SITS TO GET TO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. YOU CAN'T JUST PLACE A CAMERA
AND HAVE IT DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT IT TO DO. THANK YOU. >> COUNSELOR HANNON?
>> THANK YOU, I'M GLAD YOU ASK YOUED THE DISCUSSION ON THE CAMERAS AND THE EXPLANATION OF SOME OF OUR LOWER RESOLUTION CAMERAS, THAT YOU LOOK AT THE IMAGES AND IT'S, THE, LOOKS LIKE A BLOB. SO, HAVING HIGHER RESOLUTION CAMERAS IS TEEPFUL. AGAIN, I MET WITH CPD YESTERDAY AND HOPEFULLY, THEY COULD TALK ABOUT THE FLOCK CAMERAS, THAT'S BEEN A GAME CHANGER FOR US HERE, I'M GLAD TO SEE INDIANAPOLIS IS IMPLEMENTING THOSE AS WELL. THEY COULD SEE A LICENSE PLATE
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FROM A SUSPECT WHO HAS A HISTORY AND FOLLOW THAT PERSON. IT SOUND SCARY, BUT FROM AN INTERVENTION STAND POINT, IT'S A GAME CHANGER. I'M ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLIST SAFETY NOT JUST FOCUSSING ON VEHICLES, BUT, ALSO, FOCUSSING ON THOSE INTERSECTION AND THE LAST WEIBEL FINAL MILE HERE IS HOW CODO WE KNIT THAT TOGETHER? WE HAVE 360, MAY BE IN A YEAR WE HAVE 460, WHO MONITORS THOSE, WHO ANALYZES THAT? YOU HAVE THE SOFTWARE, AND ALGORITHMS IN THE BACKGROUNDS MONITORING THESE.NEAR MISSES ARE ACTUALLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ACCIDENTS THEMSELVES. SO, ONE THING THAT I MAY ASK THE MAYOR TO DO FOR COUNCIL IS TO GET A PRESENTATION ON THE VW PROJECT LOOKING AT SOME OF THIS INTELLIGENT TECHNOLOGY THAT USES A VARIETY OF SENSORS NOT JUST CAMERAS ON HOW WE CAN BE A SAFER MORE EFFICIENT ORGANIZATION. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. AND CERTAINLY, THE SOFTWARE REQUIREMENT WILL BE SUPPORTIVE BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS COME WITH THE
BUSINESS CASE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH, TIMOTHY, APPRECIATE IT. MOVING ON TO THE GOLF COURSE.
>> >> GOOD MORNING, COUNSELORS, BOB HIGGINS, GENERAL MANAGER OF THE GOLF COURSE. AS EVERYONE ELSE, A BIG JUMP IN PAYROLL AND PERSONNEL SERVICES. THAT'S 55-60% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET. THERE'S A JUMP THERE AND A PRETTY BIG JUMP IN THE BUDGET ALL TOGETHER. WE HAD SMALLER JUMPS, GASOLINE PRICES GOING UP. OUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS 14-YEAR-OLD NOW. AND AS THINGS AGE THEY START TO BREAKDOWN MORE. UTILITY PRICES GOING UP AND THE USE OF THE BUILDING, IF WE'RE USING THE BUILDING MORE AND MORE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HIGHER GAS AND ELECTRICITY PRICES. OUR BIGGEST JUMP AND IT WASN'T BUILDING REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE BECAUSE OF OUR WARRANTIES RUNNING OUT. WE JUST DID A PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE FOR HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM. THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT RISE IN COST. GROUND'S MAINTENANCE, BASICALLY, EVERY PRODUCT I USE TO MAINTAIN THE GOLF COURSE IS BASED IN PETROIUM, FERTILIZERS, CHEMICAL PRODUCTS, AND PESTICIDES, THOSE PRICES HAVE RISEN AND SO HAVE MY COSTS. ORGANIZATION MEMBERSHIP DUES, THERE'S A STATE WIDE SYSTEM CALLED BLUE GOLF WHICH PROVIDES HANDICAPPED TO GOLFERS. WE PAY THAT INITIALLY, THE GOLFERS PAY US BACK FOR, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE PAY FOR SO IT'S SOMETHING THOUGH WE HAVE TO PUT IN THE BUDGET AND THOSE HAVE GONE UP. HARD GOODS AND SOFT GOODS, WHICH IS CLOTHING, TEES, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AS WE GET BUSIER, WE'RE SELLING MORE OF THAT, THAT'S A GOOD T BECAUSE WE MAKE 25-40% MARGIN OUT OF THIS. SOME OUTINGS HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT THIS YEAR, WHERE THEY WANTED US TO SUPPLY THAT. SO, THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE BUSINESS A BIT RECENTLY. THAT'S IT. OTHER LICENSE AND FEES IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES WITH LIQUOR LICENSES BECAUSE WE'RE CONTRACTING THAT PART OUT. IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA FOR AT LEAST OUR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES TO HAVE THOSE BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE BUILDING. SO,
WE'RE GOING BACK TO THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. COUNCILOR NELSON?
>> HI, BOB, GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. >> YOU HAD MENTIONED TO COUNSELOR AUSTIN AND ME WHEN WE MET THAT IN ORDER TO BECOME MAY BE A MORE USEFUL OR TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF EVENTS THAT MAY BE WE WOULD NEED TO THINK ABOUT INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE PARKING LOT. IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE YOU HAD PROVIDED HAD BEEN GIVEN OR LOOKED INTO THE COST OF
INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE PARKING LOT? >> YOU KNOW, I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT IT WHEN WE DID THE CART PATH PROJECT LAST YEAR. TIMING WISE AND HOW EVERYTHING WORKED
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OUT AND WITH THE BUDGET COMING IN, JUST SLIGHTLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE HAD KIND OF PLANNED ON FOR THE CART PATHS. WE DECIDED NOT TO DO IT AT THE TIME. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PARKING IN THE GRASS AND IT'S MENTIONED QUITE A BIT, BUT, AT THE TIME WE DECIDED NOT TO DO IT. AND THE OTHER THING, UM, IT KITCHEN SEEMS TO BE IN A STRANGE PLACE. THAT'S NOT ME, THAT'S COMING FROM THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS RUNNING THE RESTAURANT THAT TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE AT SERVICING EVENTS THERE SOMEBODY A RECON FIGURATION, HAS THAT BEEN THOUGHT ABOUT?>> THAT HAS NOT, THAT WOULD REQUIRE CHANGING THE BUILDING. >> IT'S NOT JUST STICKING A
MICROWAVE CLOSER TO? >> YEAH. >> AND THEY'RE HIRING OUT MOST OF THE FOOD SERVICE IF THEY DO IT ANYWAY. BASICALLY, WHAT THEY'RE SUPPLYING IS GOLF COURSE
SNACK FOOD. >> IT WAS A PLEASURE MEETING YOUMENT
>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. COUNSELOR? >> YOU MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED THIS AT THE BEGINNING. BUT, MAYBE I MISSED IT. WHAT WAS YOUR REVENUE COMING IN THIS
YEAR, AND HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO REF YEARS? >> AS OF THE END OF AUGUST, WE'RE AT $990,000 IN REVENUE WHICH IS ABOUT $40,000 MORE THAN WE WERE LAST YEAR WHICH WAS
$60,000 MORE THAN THE YEAR BEFORE. >> SO, PRETTY STABLE?
>> PRETTY CLOSE. >> YES. >> AND THE USAGE, HOW ON THE
NUMBER OF GOLFERS? >> THE ROUND ARE ACTUALLY PROBABLY SLIGHTLY LOWER RIGHT NOW THAN THEY WERE LAST YEAR. BUT, OUR RATE HAS GONE UP A LITTLE BIT, AND, WE PLAN ON DOING THAT AGAIN NEXT YEAR WITH A SLIGHTLY HIGHER RATE NEXT YEAR AND WE'VE MADE CONCESSIONS. FOR YEARS WE'VE HAD A SEASON PASS AND THAT'S SOMETHING SOMEBODY PURCHASES UP FRONT AND PLAYS YEAR ROUND WITH. NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT A SEASON. IT'S GOING TO HAVE A STARTING AND ENDING DATE ON IT. WE FIND THAT WE HAVE TO STAFF AND KEEP PEOPLE AROUND AT TIMES WHEN ALL WE'RE GETTING ARE THE SAME 10-12 PEOPLE. SO, WE'RE ADJUSTING WITH THAT.
>> OKAY. THANKS. >> BOB, WHEN WE MET WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE GROWTH IN REVENUE THAT YOU HAD, EVENTS, AS WE COME OUT OF COVID AND MORE PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE NEW SPACE, YOU SAID ALMOST EVERY WEEKEND THERE WAS A WEDDING GOING ON AT THE CENTER?
>> YEAH. AND I JUST GOT THE SCHEDULE FOR OCTOBER, AND THEY'VE BASICALLY HAVE ONE EVERY WEEKEND DAY A COUPLE OF FRIDAYS AND SOME THURSDAY NIGHT TYPE OF EVENTS. SO, ANOTHER BUSY MONTH
COMING UP. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S DOING VERY WELL BUT WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME ENHANCEMENTS OR OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO INCREASE THE REVENUE MORE, COULD
YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? >> SO, ONE THING THAT THE GOLF COURSE DID THIS YEAR IS STARTED TO HAVE MUSIC ON THE BACK PATIO THURSDAY NIGHTS. WE HAD ONE GUY PLAY IN JUNE AND CHANGED IT UP IN JULY AND WE GET A CROWD OF 50-70 PEOPLE. SOMEWHERE ALONG THOSE LINES. A PERFECT USE FOR THE BUILDING TO BLUE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE SUN IS BEATING DOWN ON YOU, SO, IT'S HOTTER THAN HECK. IF WE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO BLOCK SOME OF THAT HEAT, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT MAKES MORE REVENUE MAKES THE BUILDING MORE USEABLE. THE CONTRACTOR HAS MENTIONED THAT WITH WEDDINGS, OR EVENTS THAT THEY HAVE, THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING WHERE THEY COULD
USE THAT OUTDOOR SPACE MORE. >> YES? >> SO, HAVING SAID THAT, IS THERE AN ACTION PLAN? I MEAN, BECAUSE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT TWO YEARS AGO.
>> RIGHT. >> SO, WE COULD KEEP SAYING, YEAH, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT,
BUT IT IS THERE A PLAN? >> WE HAVE NOT LAID TOGETHER AN ACTION PLAN AS OF YET. I KNOW THAT WE DID SEE PRICING ON PUTTING UP A COMPLETE PERGOLA, AND CLOSING IT IN. THAT CHANGES THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING, AND IT ALSO WOULD BLOCK SOME OF THE VIEW WHICH MAKES THAT AREA SO NICE. AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY BUILT THE BUILDING, WE HAD A RETRACTIBLE AWNING INCLUDED THAT WAS TAKEN OUT DUE TO CUTS AND COST SAVINGS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS YEAR AGAIN. >> SO, I ALWAYS HERD ABOUT A PERGOLA, A SMART PERGOLA OR SOMETHING, HAS THAT BEEN RULED IN OR OUT?
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>> NEITHER AT THIS POINT. >> SO, HOW OLD IS THE BUILDING NOW?
>> 3 YEARS-OLD. >> THERE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE FREQUENT COMMENTS I GET IS WHEN ARE YOU GUYING GOING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT YOU KNOW, YOU JUST DESCRIBED IT
PERFECTLY, VERY HOT, SITTING ON CONCRETE, ET CETERA. >> I THINK WE'VE BEEN PATIENT, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE NEED DO SOMETHING OR NOT. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
>> MY FEAR, OR MY THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND SOME OF THAT IS IF WE WOULD PUT THE MONEY INTO BUILDING THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RETURN THE GOLF COURSE ITSELF WOULD GET. I THINK THAT THE CONTRACTOR WOULD GET A GOOD RETURN ON IT, WHICH WE WOULD THEN GET A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF.
BUT, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD PAY FOR ITSELF FROM THE GOLF COURSE LIKE WE MAY EXPECT IT TO.
>> THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT WHAT KEEPS US FROM
GOING TO THE CONTRACTOR? >> I'VE BROUGHT THAT UP MULTIPLE TIMES AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, THEY THINK IT'S OUR BUILDING AND SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO. AND MAY BE THAT'S
SOMETHING WE SHOULD DISCUSS SPLITTING SOMEHOW. >> YEAH. I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO ADVANCE THIS CONVERSATION SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS SAME CONVERSATION THE SAME WAY NEXT YEAR. MAY BE, IT CAN'T BE DONE. MAY BE IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE. THAT'S ALL FINE.
BUT, I THINK WE NEED TO SURROUND OR GET CLOSER TO A SOLUTION. >>
(INDISCERNIBLE) >> PRESIDENT RYDER? . >> FROM EXPERIENCE, IT WILL INCREASE SALES FOR THE CONTRACTOR, SO, I THINK IF THE CONTRACTOR FEELS THAT'S THE CASE, THEY SHOULDN'T GET THE INCREASED SALES FOR FREE. I WOULD SAY, WE WOULD TELL THEM IF WE BUILD THIS, WE'RE GOING TO RENEGOTIATE THAT CONTRACT BECAUSE THEY WILL GET ADDITIONAL
SPACE, AND THAT WILL BE A WAY OF RECOUPING SOME OF THE COST. >> VERY GOOD POINT. I AGREE
WITH THAT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED. >> GOOD. OKAY. LET'S DRIVE
THAT HOME HARDER. COUNCILOR HANNON? >> THE CONVERSATION'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME. WE PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT GOLF COURSE AND INTO THAT CLUB HOUSE, BUT, IF THERE WAS A MARGINAL BENEFIT AND A BUSINESS PLAN TO RETURN, THAT'S NOT QUITE AS SIMPLE, I KNOW COUNSELOR RYDER SAID AN NECDOTALLY, TO MO FORWARD TO HAVE AN OFF LINE CONVERSATION AS TO WHO NEED TO BE AROUND THE TABLE AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATE, ALTHOUGH THAT WILL GET LIGHTER AS WE MOVE INTO THE FALL. SO, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE LET'S SET UP A MEETING TO START THE PROCESS SO THAT WE COULD FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW,
KIND OF MOVE FORWARD OR NOT. SO. >>
>> VERY GOOD. LET'S MOVE TO, BACK TO CRIER 1160. >> SO, WE DO, RIGHT AFTER THE
MAYOR'S. RIGHT AFTER THIS ONE. YEAH. >> EXCELLENT. I'LL GO QUICKLY.
>> ALL RIGHT. FOR THE MAYOR'S BUDGET, THE ONE OF THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT YOU SEE PERSONNEL SERVICES WENT DOWN $52. SO, THAT'S MAINLY DUE TO A CHANGE IN PERSONNEL WITHIN THE OFFICE. A FAMILY SITUATION DIFFERENCE. SO, IT WENT LOWER. SECOND IN TOTAL OF SUPPLIES, OTHER PROFESSIONAL FEES, 4341999, WE INCREASED IT BY $20,000. AND THAT'S AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, DOES PAY MR. COONROD AND HIS TEAM THAT DOES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND IT COVERS A STUDY THIS YEAR, CARBON CREDITS STUDY AND THERE'S FUNDING IN THERE FOR PUBLIC ART'S CONSULTANT. SO, WE RACED IT TO COVER THOSE COSTS CAN. AND THEN, REALLY, THE ONLY OTHER INCREASE IS THE SUPPORT FOR THE ART'S LINE. WHICH IS, ABOUT 1% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET WHEN YOU INCLUDE MVH AND THE
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GENERAL FUND ALL TOGETHER. WHICH IS WHAT YOU APPROPRIATE IN ALL OF THAT.>> COUNCILOR HANNON? >> SO, WE GOT THE PRESENTATION FROM HR AND I THINK THAT THE MAYOR SAID IT WAS AN 8% INCREASE. WAS IT ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL?
>> IT'S NORMALLY NOT THAT CLEAN, LIKE, IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, I THINK ICS, THEY'RE NUMBERS WERE LOWER THAN 9% AND THERE'S A COMBINATION OF STAFFING INCREASES. BUT, IT'S THE SAME RAISE, I THINK ANN SAID 8.15% OVERALL, BUT WHEN YOU SUBTRACT SOME OF THE FAMILY
INSURANCE SITUATIONS IT LOOKS DIFFERENT. >> I MEAN, IT'S WITHIN THE BALL PARK. FOR EXAMPLE, I'VE SEEN 12%. I THINK POLICE IS 12%, BUT IT'S 8% PLUS ADDITIONAL STAFF
CHANGES. >> EXACTLY. >> AND I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT NOTES FROM LAST YEAR, THE SUPPORT FOR THE ARTS, BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF THE BASE BUDGET OR THE BASE BUDGET PLUS THE OTHER ADDITIONAL COMPONENTS ON IT.
SO, I'LL HAVE TO RECTIFY THAT COMPARED TO WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING THAT THE COUNCIL APPROPRIATES. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS REGARDING 1160? >> OKAY. WE WILL TAKE A LET'S CAN WE DO THIS IN 10 MINUTES? A
10-MINUTE BREAK. WE GOT A LATE >> NEXT UP IS 1150, BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS.
>> THE MUCH ANTICIPATED, BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET. OF COURSE, THE GOOD NEWS IS WENT DOWN 1%. SO, BASICALLY, IT'S THE SAME AS LAST YEAR, AND I THINK EVERYONE HERE UNDERSTANDS THAT 99.9% OF THIS BUDGET IS JUST BOND PAYMENTS. ONE THING THAT I WOULD POINT OUT, YOU NOTICE THE 2011, 4354003. RIGHT BELOW THAT, THAT ONE INCREASED. SO, AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL PREDETERMINED YEARS AGO, KNOWING THAT WAS GOING TO BE PAID OFF SO THEY MAKE AN INCREASED PAYMENT ON THE FOLLOWING. SO, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SCIENCE TO THIS, THESE ARE PAYMENTS THAT WERE
PREDETERMINED WHEN THE BONDS WERE DRAWN UP. >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS
REGARDING 1150? >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ONTO 1203, COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. >> GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE YOU? >> GOOD, THANKS.
>> GOOD MORNING. ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU. SO, IN THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND. I LIKE EVERYBODY HAVE INCREASES IN PERSONNEL ITEMS. WE ESTIMATE HIGH ON THIS ITEM, WE'RE JUST THIS WEEK, FULLY STAFFED NOW IN MY DEPARTMENT AND WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT THE SITUATION WOULD BE WITH FAMILY AND WHO WAS GOING TO CHOOSE WHAT, SO, HE HAD SHIFTING AROUND. THE MONEY SPENT GOES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND AND LAST YEAR WE PUT $80,000 BACK INTO THAT PERSONNEL LINE NUMB ITEM. OTHER THAN THAT WE HAVE A 2% INCREASE IN THE REST OF THE BUDGET AND THAT'S SOLELY DUE TO AN INCREASE IN FESTIVAL AND COMMUNITY EVENTS. WE HAVE ADDED EVENTS AND ENHANCE ONES WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING. AND WE HAVE TURF AT MIDTOWN WHICH ALLOWS US TO PUT UP A TENT AND THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE EVENTS, IF THERE'S LIGHTNING, WE STOP, BUT IF IT'S DRIZZLING OR RAINING, WE COULD HAVE THE EVENT GOING ON OR IF THERE'S EXCESSIVE HEAT, WE HAVE PEOPLE TO GO FOR SHADE. AND WE'RE THE DEPARTMENT THAT HELPS TO FUND HOLIDAY LIGHTING WHEN WE
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IMPROVE A STREET, IT'S NEVER IN THAT LINE ITEM TO ADD HOLIDAY LIGHTING WHEN WE HAVE PART OF A STREET THAT'S COMPLETED AND ANOTHER STREET GETS EXPANDED. WE TRY TO ESTIMATE WHAT GOES INTO THAT. AND THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR FOR 1203.>> COUNCILOR AASEN? >> A FEW THINGS, WE AND MILES MET WITH YOU, AND ONE, YOU HE THINKS MENTIONED THAT YOU ARE FULLY STAFFED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A WHILE, SO, CONGRATS ON THAT. AND YOU SAID YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE HIRING IN THE FUTURE, THAT YOU FEEL GOOD WITH WHERE THE STAFF IS TO YOU. AND ANOTHER THING IF YOU COULD TALK TO US ABOUT THIS, IS THAT YOU MENTIONED HOW YOU'VE BEEN ADJUSTING THE EVENTS THAT YOU HAVE. WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT'S NOT WORKING. STUFF THAT'S NOT WORKING, MAY BE PULL BACK AND DON'T DO IT AS MUCH. AND TALK
ABOUT THAT. >> THANK YOU. YES, I DID TALK WITH COUNSELORS NELSON AND AASEN, ABOUT THE BUDGET AND DISCUSSED THAT WE DO SHIFT THINGS AROUND OVERTIME, ONE OF THE EVENTS THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE USED TO BE CALLED JAZZ ON THE MONNON. THEY'RE PRIVATELY CONTRACTING TO DO THAT WHICH WE LOVE TO SEE BECAUSE THAT TEND TO HAPPEN, WHEN WE START SOMETHING AND A COMMUNITY GROUP TAKES IT OVER, A NON-PROFIT THAT ALWAYS HELPS US. SO, THAT CONTINUES, BUT WE ALSO HAD MONEY IN OUR MONEY AND WE CALL IT HAD MUSIC ON THE MONNON, AND MOST OF YOU KNOW AS THE DEVELOP HAPPENED IN DIFFERENT AREAS WE KEPT MOVING FURTHER SOUTH ON THE TRAIL THAT DURING THE PANDEMIC WE HELD SOME AT THE GAZEBO. THE MUSIC THAT WE PUT ON THE SIDEWALKS DURING OUR EVENTS AND WE HAVE INCREASED THE BUDGET FOR THAT TO GET ADDITIONAL PERFORMERS AND PERFORMERS AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL. AND SO, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND WE'VE ADDED BREWS ON THE BOULEVARD THIS YEAR AND AN EVENT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET CALLED "ART IN CAUGHT ITEM". AND THAT ENHANCES THE MIDTOWN TALENT EVENT. IT'S NICE TO HAVE FRESH IDEAS COMING IN WITH SOME OF THE NEW ENERGY THAT WE HAVE ON STAFF AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ENHANCE EVENTS THAT WE WERE HAVING BUT EXPAND THEM LONGER INTO THE DAY LIKE INTO THE AFTERNOON HOURS AND EVENING SO THAT FAMILIES CAN COME AND STAY ENGAGED IN AN AREA. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS
THERE. >> YOU DETAILS ADDITIONAL EVENTS, AND MENTIONED EQUIPMENT IN MIDTOWN, IT WAS LONG OVER DUE REPLACING THAT GRASS WITH ARTIFICIAL TURF. WHO QUESTIONS, IS ONE, AN EYE WATER INCREASE AND HEALTH INSURANCE ON YOUR LINE. I KNOW WHEN WE MET WITH THE HR DIRECTOR, THE USUAL 14%, BUT YOUR'S IS 26 PERCENT, SO, WITH THE SAME NUMBER OF STAFF DO
YOU KNOW WHY YOUR'S WAS HIT HARDER? >> ACTUALLY, A NEW PERSON STARTED THIS WEEK, SO, WE DID NOT HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF STAFF. WE HAD IT, UM, WE WERE, BUDGETED TO HIRE THAT PERSON, BUT, WHEN WE ESTIMATE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, LIKE, I SAID, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT FAMILY SITUATIONS ARE GOING TO BE AND THAT KIND OF THING, SO, WE ESTIMATE HIGH AND LAST YEAR WE RETURNED $80,000 IN THE PERSONNEL LINE ITEM AND WE'VE NEVER NOT RETURNED MONEY THERE, BUT IT KEEPS US FROM HAVING TO COME BACK FOR A SPECIAL
APPROPRIATION FOR A SMALL AMOUNT. >> THE OTHER QUESTION, AND THE MAYOR'S HERE TOO, THE OKTOBERFEST IS AWESOME. WHERE WILL WE MOVE THAT DOWN TO THE GREEN. WHEN THE CHRIS CRINDEL MARKET AS A GERMAN MARKET. THE BETTER SPACE, THE BEAUTIFUL PODIUM AND THE SHELTER THAT WE HAVE HERE, IS THERE CONSIDERATION IN THE FUTURE TO MOVE THAT DOWN INTO THE KARL GREEN AND THAT TRANSITIONS INTO THE MARKET?
>> SO, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT. AND, THERE ARE TWO MAIN REASONS THAT WE DON'T, NUMBER ONE, THE
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OKTOBERFEST IS ONE OF THOSE THAT ISN'T ALWAYS THE CERTAIN DATE, LIKE, THE LAST WEEKEND IN THIS OR THE FIRST WEEKEND IN THAT, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO WHEN WE CAN GET A POLKA BAND AND WHEN CERTAIN JEWISH HOLIDAYS FALL. SO, WE CHANGE THE DATE OF THAT EVENT FROM YEAR TO YEAR. THE SECOND PROBLEM, NOT REALLY A PROBLEM, BUT, IF WE WERE TO HAVE IT IN EARLY OCTOBER, THAT'S WHEN THEY START TO SET UP. THEY CAN WAIT A DAY OR TWO, BUT THE STREET DEPARTMENT IS TASKED WITH SETTING UP THE CHRIS MARKET. AND IN THE MIDST OF SETTING UP AN ICE RINK, THE ABBIANCE ISN'TTHERE. IT'S STUFF FOR THE STORES >> THE HANOVER PLACE WHERE THE OTHER LINDON TREE AND OTHER RESTAURANTS ARE. THAT GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAY OPEN LATE AND HAVE PEOPLE FIND THEM DURING OKTOBERFEST, AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S A TIGHT FOOTPRINT, WE HAVE EXPANDED TOWARD THE PARKING GARAGE. OUR GOAL IS NOT TO MAKE MONEY OR MAKE IT THE BIGGEST EVENT POSSIBLE, IT'S TO DRAW ATTENTION. ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE HAVE THAT THERE IS SPECIFICALLY TO HAVE PEOPLE DISCOVER CITY CENTER, AND ALL OF COMPONENTS OF IT.
>> THANK YOU. >> DID YOU DISCUSS THE SPONSORSHIPS THAT YOU ARE
GETTING ON THE REVENUE SIDE? >> WELL, THERE'S TWO MAIN ONES, AND THE ALEX SOLUTIONS, THAT'S THE THIRD TIER OF THE $150,000 SPONSORSHIPS WHICH WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HAVE. A LOT OF THOSE ARE FOCUSED IN THE MIDTOWN PLAZA AREA AND A LOT OF THE HOLIDAY EVENTS, THE TROLLY, AND THEN THE MAGNIFICENT MONNON, MIDDAY AND MIDTOWN, THE POSITIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE FIRST TWO YEARS, THEY HAD A ROTATING EVENT WHERE THEY COULD SPONSOR A ONE-OFF, AND THEY SAW THEY WERE DOING THE BREWS ON THE BOULEVARD AND THEY WERE GOING TO PUT THAT INTO THE EVENT AND THEY THOUGHT THE THINGS THEY TRIED DO IS GET THEIR NAME OUT IN THE COMMUNITY ATTRACT PEOPLE TO NOTICE THAT THEY'RE THERE AND POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, ATTRACT EMPLOYEES AND THIRDLY, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GIVING BACK TO HER IT COMMUNITY LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEY VALUE THEM AND THE COMMUNITY. SO, THAT'S, WHAT THEY DO. AND THEN, HEALTH NORTH, IS A $30,000 SPONSOR FOR BIKE CARMEL. SO, YOU'LL SEE THEIR NAME ON THE BIKE CARMEL EVENTS. AND THE REST, ARE A THOUSAND DOLLARS HERE AND A THOUSAND DOLLARS THERE, I DON'T HAVE THE TOTAL, BUT, I COULD SEE WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, WE'RE GEARING BACK UP FROM COVID AND GAINING SOME OF THOSE. WE HAD DURING CARMEL ON CAMPUS, WE HAVE $500 HERE AND $500 THERE FROM PURCHASE AWARD. IF, A COMPANY WANTS, SAY THE HOTEL CCARMICHAE. IT'S A NICE WAY TO SEED LOCAL MONEY. IT'S HOW WE SEE WHAT THEY SEE IN CARMEL THROUGH THE ARTIST'S EYES AND THE DIFFERENT WATER COLORS AND PAINTS. IT'S BEAUTIFUL TO SEE THE BRIDGE AND POND AND THE NATURE THEY DID. SO, WE GOT SPONSORSHIPS FROM THAT AS WELL. IT CERTAINLY HELPS BUT OBVIOUSLY IT DOESN'T COVER ALL THE EXPENSES BUT WE
APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE FROM THE COMMUNITY. >> I KNOW OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE A SPONSORSHIP STAFF OR SOMEONE TO SEEK SPONSORSHIPS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE
DOING? >> WE LOOKED INTO ALL THE WAYS THAT SPONSORSHIPS ARE DONE, BUT
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WE DIDN'T WANT TO HIRE SOMEBODY. IT'S A PREFERENCE OF WHERE YOU PUT YOUR MONEY AND OUR STAFF REACHES OUT TO VARIOUS THINGS AND WE ALSO HAVE, WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE SOME VERY SEASONED CONTRACTORS, EVENT CONTRACTORS WHO ALSO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SETTING EVENTS AND THEY'RESUCCESSFUL AT FINDING MONEY IN DIFFERENT PLACES. >> AND WHEN IS THE CARMEL
STEERS GOING IN? >> THE WHAT? >> THE CARMEL STAIRS?
>> I HAVE NO IDEA. >> IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE IT'S 12-16 MONTHS AWAY.
>> SOMETHING TELLS ME IT MIGHT BE 12-16 MONTHS AWAY. >> THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO ENGAGE CARTER GREEN WITH OTHER EVENTS. IT WOULD GREATLY ENHANCE THE ACCESS. YES. THANK
YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE?
>> I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR NELSON? >> I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU AND YOUR STAFF'S HARD WORK ON LAST WEEK, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WAS AN AMAZING ACTION-PACKED WEEKEND AND I LOVED HOW YOU UTILIZED DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE ARTS DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY FOR PORCH, FEST, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE MORE OF THE CITY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO AGAIN, THANK THE CITY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE CAREFUL HOW I SAY THIS, BUT, I WANT TO THANK THE CITY AND YOUR STAFF FOR ALL THE HELP IN THE PRIDE EVENTS. AND LOOK FORWARD TO AN EVEN BETTER PRIDE EVENT NEXT YEAR.
THANK YOU. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO MOVE OP TO THE OTHER, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MY STAFF, WE HAD MORE THAN ONE EVENT EVERYDAY. AND THERE ARE SOME, NON-PROFITS THAT DO THE EVENTS, BUT, IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT COORDINATION ON THE CITY'S PART. MY DEPARTMENT, THE STREET DEPARTMENT, UTILITIES, EVERYBODY PITCHES IN. AND WE HAD THE CONVERSATION A LOT ABOUT, DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN THERE WAS ONE THING TO DO, MAYBE, ON THE WEEKEND? SO, IT WAS VERY FUN. THE NEXT THINK I THINK IN THE LINEUP IS THE 922. THE NON-REVERTING FUND FOR CENTER GREEN WHICH IS THE ICE FUND. SO, WE REALLY LOOK AT IT ONE TIME OF THE YEAR AND NOT COME BACK FOR SPECIAL APPROPRIATION. AS A REMINDER, THESE ARE NOT TAX-PAYER FUNDS, IT'S BASED ON INCOME FROM ICE SKATING, ICE RENTAL, CONCESSIONS FOR THE ICE AT CARTER GREEN.
AND OUR ASK THIS YEAR IS $277,595. AND, UM, LAST YEAR, WE MADE $394.596. AND EVEN IF WE DIDN'T MAKE A DIME, WE WOULD STILL HAVE 597 LEFT IN THAT LINE ITEM. WE'RE CONFIDENT THIS COVERS OUR MANAGEMENT FEES OR ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BREAK. INCASE WE NEED MORE TUBING. WE DID TALK WITH OUR ICE AND UTILITIES, AND STREET DEPARTMENT, AND WE THINK THAT WE FOUND WHAT WAS CAUSING SOME OF THE MELTING IN THE ICE IN ADDITION TO THE 60 DEGREE TEMPERATURES, WE HAD FLUSHING OF THE SYSTEM THAT TOOK PLACE AND SO, WE'RE HOPEFUL THIS YEAR IT WILL BE IMPROVED. BUT THAT'S WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT LINE ITEM -- OR THAT BUDGET. ARE
THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> COUNCILOR HANNON? >> I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT REVENUE IS COMING UP AND PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING IT. HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANY ACCOUNTING FOR THE UTILITIES WHICH ARE REQUIRED TO RUN THE ICE? HAS ANYONE LOOKED AT THE MARGINL BUMP IN ELECTRICITY IN THE ENERGY CENTER TO SUPPORT THAT OVER THE WINTER MONTHS? BECAUSE THAT'S A COST
BEYOND THE OTHER MAINTENANCE COSTS. >> I DON'T KNOW IF UTILITIES
HAS LOOKED AT THAT SPECIFICALLY. >> (INDISCERNIBLE)
>> RIGHT, BUT IT'S A PRETTY BIG SPIKE AND WE COULD LOOK AT IT YEAR OVER YEAR, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT HASN'T BEEN LOOKED AT, WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR LOOKING AT THAT, MAYOR?
>> I'LL TALK TO JIM CARTER. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> OKAY. >> AND THE OTHER NON-REVERTING FUND THAT WE HAVE IS THE 923
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NONREVERTING EVENTS AND FESTIVALS FUND. AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT TAX-PAYERS FUND, BUT, IT IS FUNDED FROM ANY EVENTS THAT WE CHARGE MONEY FOR WHICH IS LIMITED. WE HAVE ART OF WINE, WHICH, AGAIN, THE WEATHER CANCELLED. AND, THEN, FOR THE FURTH YEAR IN A ROW. AND WE EVEN MOVE IT HAD TO MAY, THINKING THAT THE WEATHER GODS WOULDN'T FIND US, BUT THEY DID.AND THE OTHER WAS FROM THE BRUISE ON THE BOULEVARD WHICH WAS A GREAT FIRST YEAR FOR US.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT FEEDS THAT ACCOUNT ARE THE FACILITIES USE REQUIREMENTS WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO USE THE CITY'S FACILITIES, A NOMINAL FEE PAID FOR THAT. THIS YEAR WE'RE ASKING FOR $26,500. LAST YEAR OUR REVENUE IN THAT LINE ITEM WAS $38,199, SO, EVEN IF THERE WERE NO NEW FUNDS COMING IN, WE WOULD STILL HAVE $11,699 JUST OVER WHAT WAS MADE LAST YEAR.
SO, I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. >> ALL RIGHT, 1801 CARMEL
REDEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. >> >> GOOD MORNING, CARMEL CITY COUNCIL, HENRY, REDEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. 90% OF OUR REDEVELOPMENT BUDGET IS SALARIES. I'VE, IT'S ME AND FOUR EMPLOYEES. TWO OF THEM ARE AT GRADE SIX, I MOVED TWO OF THEM UP A STEP, SORRY. STEP SIX, I MOVED TWO OF THEM UP A STEP. SO, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S REFLECTED IN THE 13% CHANGE OVER ALL TO PERSONNEL SERVICES. SO OUT OF MY $930,000 BUDGET $830,000 OF THAT IS SALARIES. WHICH, I APPRECIATE BECAUSE WE HAVE A WONDERFUL TEAM AND I'M THANKFUL THAT THE CITY SUPPORTS HIRING STAFF LIKE THAT. UM, EVERYTHING ELSE IS ABOUT THE SAME. I MEAN, WE ADJUSTED PUBLICATION OF LEGAL AIDS, SO THAT WENT DOWN BY 50%. WE DO HAVE, IF YOU GO TO THE VERY BOTTOM, HARDWARE, THERE'S AN INCREASE FROM $1,000 LAST YEAR TO $6,000 FOR THIS COMING YEAR. UM, WE HAVE TWO LAPTOPS WHICH ARE FIVE AND-A-HALF YEARS OLD, SO, THOSE WILL BE GETTING REPLACED FOR EMPLOYEES SO THAT'S THE INCREASE THAT YOU SEE IN THE
BUDGET. OTHER THAN THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL.
COUNSELOR HANNON. >> DIRECTOR, LAST YEAR WAS AN ODD YEAR, BECAUSE, AND I THINK, I DID THE BUDGET WITH YOU, BECAUSE, WE HAD A LAWYER THAT HAD COME OVER FROM THE CITY TO CRC, SHE HAS SINCE MOVED ON. SO, HOW DID THAT GET RECTIFIED. BECAUSE, I THOUGHT SHE WAS REPLACING CONTRACTED SERVICES OR SOMETHING. CAN YOU SAY HOW THAT'S SPELLED OUT IN TERMS OF
YOUR LEGAL NEEDS LAST YEAR VERSUS THIS YEAR AND PERSONNEL. >> SO, IN TERMS OF SALARY, IF THAT WAS PART OF THE QUESTION, UM, LAST YEAR, SHE WAS STILL BEING PAID OUT OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT BUDGET. AND THIS YEAR, SHE'S NOT THERE, SO, HER SALARY HAD NO AFFECT ON THE YEAR OVER YEAR CHANGE. AS FAR AS LEGAL SERVICES, I WAS BOTHERING LEGAL THIS MORNING, ASKING THEM QUESTIONS. SO, I THINK THAT OUR OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS THAT WE USE, WE HAVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR REDEVELOPMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION, FOR REAL ESTATE AND CERTAIN OTHER THINGS, AND, IN-HOUSE COUNSEL AND OUR TEAMWORK WITH JOHN'S DEPARTMENT IS STELLAR. SO, WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, WE USE CITY LEGAL. CRC APPROVED THREE CONTRACTS LAST NIGHT EACH WERE DRAFTED BY THE CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT. AND WHEN WE GET INTO COMPLEX LITIGATION AND, UM, REDEVELOPMENT TRANSACTIONS
THAT'S WHEN WE USE OUTSIDE COUNSEL. >> IT HASN'T CHANGED? BECAUSE HAS THERE BEEN INCREASE OR NEED FOR LEGAL SERVICES OR ANYTHING BASED UPON THAT PARTIAL POSITION
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GOING AWAY? >> I WOULD SAY THAT JOHN AND SERGAE STEPPED IN SEAMLESSLY INTO THAT ROLE. I USE SERGAE FROM CITY LEGAL MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE AND HE'S GREAT.
>> THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR. WE MET WITH LEGAL AND AGAIN, I LOOK FORWARD TO THEIR PRESENTATION, I THINK THAT HE'S VERY SMART IN TERMS OF HIS INSIDE COUNSEL UTILIZATION. THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> NO, THANK YOU.
>> WE WILL MOVE ONTO COMMUNITY SERVICES, 1192. >> DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE T
LET'S SEE, JEREMY'S NOT HERE EITHER. >> OH, THERE HE IS. WE'RE
READY FOR YOU. >> PERFECT TIMING. >> GOOD MORNING, MIKE, DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. THE DEPARTMENT IS PROPOSING A 13% INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. UM, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT IS PAYROLL, APPROXIMATELY $525,000 OVER LAST YEAR'S PAYROLL WHICH INCLUDES ONE PROPOSED NEW EMPLOYEE IN FORESTRY. WE JUST GOT ON ENTRY-LEVEL FOR REST TRISTAFF TO HELP WITH THE SAFETY ASPECT, I MEAN, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE, BUT, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND WE REALLY DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHEN THE CHIPPER'S BEING USED AND, YOU KNOW, AS THE TREES THAT WE PLANT GROW, YOU KNOW, THE WORKLOAD IS THERE FOR SURE. AND, THEY WOULD BE A WELCOME ADDITION TO THE DEPARTMENT. SUPPLIES, WE BUMPED UP THE GASOLINE AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL STAY THE CASE. AND WE'VE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS, UNDER THE SERVICES CATEGORY, BUT, GENERALLY WE'RE FLAT IN THAT AREA. AND UNDER THE CAPITAL ITEMS WE HAVE BUMPED UP TREES. WE ADDED SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS, TO GO ALONG WITH THE NON-REVERTING FUND FOR THE GRANT THAT WE HAD ADMINISTERED. AND, UM, HARDWARE'S UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS. SO >> SO, FOR THE TREES, IS THAT NEW TREES OR MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING TREES AND AGAIN, I'M GLAD TO HAVE ANOTHER URBAN FORESTER ON BOARD.
>> THE TREES ARE NEW AND REPLACEMENT TREES. IN THAT COST IS THE INSTALLATION COST TOO.
GROUNDS MAINTENANCE AND THE CATEGORY, IS THE SERVICES IS WHERE THE GROUNDS MAINTENANCE
COMES OUT OF. >> COUNCILOR GREEN. >> CAN YOU GO THROUGH HOW MANY
INSPECTORS YOU HAVE? >> SO, YES. >> ALL THE INSPECTORS.
>> YES. WE HAVE THE BUILDING COMMISSIONER, AND FOUR BUILDING INSPECTORS. AND THEN WE HAVE
UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT, THERE'S BRENT PLUS THREE. >> THREE INSPECTORS.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO, THAT'S PHYSICALLY NOT, IS THAT EQUATE TO HOW MANY POSITIONS THAT YOU HAVE, OR ARE ALL THE POSITIONS FILLED CURRENTLY? FOR INSPECTORS?
>> WE HAD ONE RETIREMENT, AND, THE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER, WE HAVE STARTED THE INTERVIEW
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THAT OUT AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WE'VE MADE AN OFFER TO AND THEY'RE GOING TO START IN THEMIDDLE OF OCTOBER. >> SO, YOU'LL BE BACK TO 100%? >> YES.
>> YOU KNOW, YOU AND I, AND WE'VE BEEN AT A TON OF MEETINGS ABOUT GROWTH. SO, WITH THAT NUMBER OF INSPECTORS, IS THAT GOING TO BE ENOUGH, UM, WITH ANOTHER 10,000, 20,000, 40,000
PEOPLE, AND MORE BUILDINGS, AND MORE EVERYTHING? >> YES, IT IS. I MEAN, SO, THAT POPULATION DOESN'T JUST DROP OUT OF THE SKY, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD
HANDLE ON. >> SOME PEOPLE THINK IT'S DROPPING OUT OF THE SKY RIGHT
NOW, BUT, GO AHEAD. >> YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY, WE KNOW THE NUMBER OF PERMITS, AND, YOU HE NO, IT FLUCTUATES TO SOME EXTENT, BUT, FOR THE MOST PART, THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION THAT OCCURS IS UM, I MEAN, WE CAN HANDLE THAT WITH THE GROUPS THAT WE HAVE. AND, UM, WE ARE GOING BRING IN DAVID WHO RETIRED, HE'S COMING BACK PART-TIME FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS JUST TO HELP WITH ADMINISTRATION AND THE OFFICE AND THAT GIVES US A PRESENCE FOR THE INSPECTOR ON-CALL AND OTHER THINGS. BUT, UM, THAT'S MORE OF AN EXPERIMENT TO SEE IF IT HELPS. BUT, I'M CONFIDENT THAT
WE HAVE THE TEAM THAT WE NEED. >> SO, YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY, CURRENTLY FOR THE WORKLOAD AND
THE CALLS THAT YOU HAVE TODAY? >> YES. >> THANKS.
>> (INDISCERNIBLE) (INDISCERNIBLE)
>> MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT, AS WELL, BECAUSE, I'VE SEEN A TREMENDOUS RISE OF COMMENTS, QUESTION, AND CONCERNS AS THINGS WE ELEVATE AS A FORMAL COMPLAINT IN THE LAST 8-12 MONTHS, IS THAT JUST MY DISTRICT, OR ARE YOU SEEING INCREASING CODE STUFF ACROSS THE
CITY? THAT WAS THE PART THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THAT. >> I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE SEEING IT LIKE HERE ON YEAR, WE'RE NOT SEEING A HUGE INCREASE. I MEAN, SOMETIMES, OBVIOUSLY, MORE PEOPLE ARE OUT. AND, VEGETATION GROWS. AND THERE'S JUST A LOT MORE ISSUES IN THE SUMMERTIME, WE'LL START TO SEE THAT TAPER OFF. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WOULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH, UM, BRENT, HE WOULD SAY THEY HAVE PLENTY OF PEOPLE TO GET THE JOB DONE.
>> THANK YOU. >> MIKE, MY ROUTINE COMMENT IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET BACK ON
YOUR RADAR THAT WE HAVE A SOME KIND OF A ONE-ON-ONE? >> ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT.
>> YEAH. >> WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. I COMMEND YOU THAT BRENT DID SEND OUT A MAP AND ALL OF THAT STUFF AND DIVIDE EVERYTHING BETWEEN THE THREE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, AND I'LL MENTION THERE'S A MISTAKE ON THE MAP AS TO WHAT HAS THE CENTRAL. BUT, ANYWAY, BUT, I WOULD, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR COUNCILORS TO ATTEND SOME KIND OF A MEETING WHERE THE OFFICERS CAN EXPLAIN WHAT THEY CAN AND WHAT THAT CANNOT DO. SETTING EXPECTATIONS, WHEN A NEIGHBOR CALLS, SOMETHING'S WRONG, THEY WANT IT FIXED TODAY. AND THAT'S NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE BASED ON THE LAW, AND WORKING WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND GIVING EVERYTHING A FAIR SHOT AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO, I'VE ASKED FOR MANY YEARS AND I WANT TO SEE IF WE COULD. AND IT'S NO ONE'S FAULT, IT'S ALL ABOUT TIME AND THAT KIND OF THING, BUT, I WOULD
LIKE TO SEE US MAKE IT A PRIORITY. >> JUST A QUICK COMMENT.
>> AND, FOLLOWING YOUR COMMENT, I APPRECIATE, ESPECIALLY THE CODE ENFORCERS, OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS HELPING HOME-PLACED TRANSITION. AND COUNCILOR WORRELL TALKED ABOUT
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THE GETTING EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY CAN DO AND HOW MUCH THE CITY CAN ENFORCE AND BRENT AND THE TEAMS WORKED HARD TO WORK THROUGH THOSE EXPECTATIONS AND IAPPRECIATE THAT. >> COUNCILOR NELSON. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, THE GENTLEMAN WHO ENFORCES THE CODE IN THE WEST SIDE, WHENEVER I CALL HIM, HE SEEMS LIKE HE'S WAY AHEAD OF ME ALREADY. HE'S WORKING HIS TAIL OFF AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU.
>> COUNSELOR RUSS, >> I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS EVERYBODY TRYING TO CALL US BEFORE CALLING CODE ENFORCEMENT. SO, A LITTLE MORE TRAINING OR EDUCATION WOULD HELP US. SOME OF THAT WE SEND TO THEM, BUT, MAY BE SOMETIMES WE SHOULDN'T. BUT, I WANT TO ASK ABOUT YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT GENERATES SOME REVENUE. UM, WITH THE CONTINUED GROWTH, AND MORE BUILDING GOING ON, HOW IS THAT LOOKING FOR THIS YEAR AND GOING FORWARD?
>> SO, LAST YEAR, UM, REVENUE WISE, WE COVERED JUST A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF OF OUR BUDGET.
AND, THIS YEAR, WE'RE APPROACHING 40% OF THE BUDGET AND I THINK BY END OF YEAR, WE'LL PROBABLY BE AT 50% AGAIN. YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT RELOOKING AT THE FEES. JUST TO
SEE IF WE COULD RATCHET THAT UP A LITTLE MORE. >> COUNCILOR HANNON?
>> I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WERE AT THE LAST HOME PLACE ADVISORY, BUT, UNIVERSALLY FROM HOME PLACE, HONESTLY, ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THEY TALK ABOUT IN HOME PLACE IS CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE ISSUES AND, I APPRECIATE AS EVERYBODY ELSE, HAVE WE DISCUSSED A TICKETING SYSTEM FOR THAT? I LIKE THE IDEA OF EDUCATING THE POPULACE ABOUT WHAT IS CODE ENFORCEMENT AND WHAT WE DO ON THAT. BUT, FOR THE TICKETING ASPECT, I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF "MY CARMEL APP", HAVE WE LOOKED AT TECHNOLOGIES WHICH WOULD HELP WITH PRODUCTIVITY AND FORECASTING IN ADDITION TO LEADING INDICATORS LIKE PERMITS ON WHETHER WE HAVE ENOUGH INSPECTORS. HAVE WE LOOKED AT A TICKETING SYSTEM? DO WE HAVE A TICKETING SYSTEM THAT WOULD HIM CITIZENS KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF REQUESTS AND RESOLUTION. AND AS
I SAID, FOR FORECASTING AS WELL? >> WE CAN DO BETTER. TIMOTHY AND I HAD A CONVERSATION JUST LAST FRIDAY ABOUT TRYING TO FIND A MORE ROBUST SYSTEM TO REPLACE "MY CARMEL". BUT, MY BIG HANG UP IS THAT IT HAS TO HAVE THAT FRONT-FACING APP SO THAT THE CITIZEN HAS THAT POWER IN THEIR HAND. IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE CITY WIDE AND LIKE A 311 TYPE OF SITUATION WHERE THAT'S VERY FOCUSED ON, UM, COMMUNITY SERVICE. ACROSS ALL THE DEPARTMENTS NOT JUST CODE
ENFORCEMENT, BUT, STREETS AND ENGINEERING. >> I WOULD PUT IN A PLUG IN THAT FOR YOU TO WORK WITH TIMOTHY AND INTEREST IN DEPARTMENTS EVEN PRIOR TO THE NEXT BUDGETARY CYCLE IS THERE SOME SMART TECHNOLOGY TO DEMONSTRATE OUR VALUE AND DO FORECASTING. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. MY CARMEL IS SUPER, MY MOM BRAGS HOW I'M A ROCK STAR, BECAUSE I LOOK AT A STREET LIGHT THAT'S OUT AND IT GETS FIXED. I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK
ON WHAT THE NEXT GENERATION SOLUTION. >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO YOUR NEXT BUDGET. SO, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?
>> DID YOU -- I THOUGHT YOU WERE GETTING UP TO LEAVE. YOU CON FUSED ME FOR A NUMBER OF
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NON-REVERTING FUNDS TO APPROPRIATE. SO, URBAN FORESTRY, WE HAVE $74,000, GENERALLY THAT'S OUR RAINY DAY FUND IN THE CASE THAT THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, STORM-RELATED. OR, I GUESS EVEN INFESTATION RELATED. BUT, UM, YEAH. THERE'S AN ELM BEETLE THAT HIT PARTS OF THE EASTSIDE THAT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE. BUT, WE COULD HANDLE THAT WITH OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET. SO, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO KEEP GOING. BUT, IF SOMEBODY HAS A QUESTION ABOUT ANYTHING SPECIFIC, JUST STOP USMENT BUT, WE'LL KEEP YOU GOING INSTEAD OF ME ASKING EVERYBODY.>> OKAY. THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION FUND, GENERALLY WE'VE BEEN, WHATEVER MONEY IS LEFT IN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BUDGET IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE'LL DIRECT TO THAT, AND, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THEIR RAINY DAY FUND. AND, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF HOPE THAT SOME DAY THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO SAVE A HOUSE, BE ABLE TO MOVE IT. AND, AS THOSE EXPENSES ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AND HAS BEEN THE MORE THEY CAN THROW AT THAT COST, I THINK THE MORE LIKELY IT IS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT AT SOME POINT. AND SO, THAT'S THE BASIS FOR THAT STORM PRESERVATION VAPID. IT'S KIND OF RAINY DAY TOO. BUT. THE NONREVERSING BICYCLE FACILITIES FUND, WE'VE GENERALLY BEEN ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS, AND THAT'S LARNLLARGELY, THE BIKE S PROGRAM TODAY WE PURCHASE COUNTERS, BIKE RACKS, BIKE PARKING. AND, FOR THE MOST PART THAT'S IT. WE DO GET REVENUE FROM THE BIKE SHARE PROGRAM AND OUR HOPE IS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO FUND ADDITIONAL BIKES OR ADDITIONAL BIKE SHARE STATIONS IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
>> OKAY. >> COUNCILOR HANNON? >> THE SUGGESTION OF THAT COMMITTEE IS THAT THEY PRESENT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL ON A 6-MONTH BASIS AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT THEY NEED ET CETERA, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE MANY PROGRAMS THAT COME ON ROLL, THE BIKE SHARE PROGRAM AS WELL AS BIKE SAFETY AND OTHER THINGS. I WOULD USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SUGGEST OR REQUEST TO COUNCIL THAT WE ADD THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE REPORT ON SAY, A TWICE A YEAR BASIS, AND WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT OFF LINE BUT THIS IS ONE OF MANY THINGS GOING ON THAT
I THINK THAT COUNCIL SHOULD BE (INDISCERNIBLE) ON. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> IT DOESN'T COVER THE COST, BUT IT'S $30,000 OR SO, I THINK IT COSTS 70 OR 80, AND I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, I'M OKAY WITH THAT, IT'S A PR THING FOR US, IT'S A MARKETING THING FOR US. BUT, THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT THINGS GOING ON WITH TRANSPORTATION THAT I THINK WE
SHOULD BE (INDISCERNIBLE) >> THE REPORT, I BELIEVE IS
CHANGING? (INDISCERNIBLE) >> SINCE THE PANDEMIC HAS
INCREASED AS OUR POPULATION VISITORS TO THE CITY. I >> I DO SEE THEM BEING USED.
>> YES. >> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. NON-REVERTING
CODE ENFORCEMENT? >> THE NON-REVERTING CODE ENFORCEMENT IS ESSENTIALLY A
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RAINY DAY FUND AS WELL. WE, UM, WE DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF ABATEMENTS, OVER THE YEARS AND SOME OF THOSE ARE EXPENSIVE AND SOME ARE JUST A MATTER OF MOWING. AND SO, AS WE TRY TO BUILD THAT FUND, UM, THERE'S THE OCCASIONAL HOUSE DEMO, THAT, AGAIN, THOSE ARE EXPENSIVE, AND SO, WE HAVE THAT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL AND HAVE A SPECIAL APPROPRIATION.>> WHEN WE HAVE TO PUT A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY FOR MOWING, DOES THAT HELP OFFSET THAT EXPENSE?
>> THAT COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND RIGHT NOW. IF WE WOULD BE KIND OF SHORT IN THE CONTRACTED SERVICES, IF WE HAVE A REALLY ACTIVE YEAR, THEN, WE WOULD RELY ON THEM. THEN WE
WOULD RELY ON THE NON-REVERTING FUND TO HELP COVER THAT GAP. >> THERE'S ANOTHER MECHANISM THAT WE COULD USE. A COUPLE OF TIMES BACK IN THE LATE '90S EARLY 2000S AS A HOUSING AUTHORITY, THEY HAVE THE POWER, IN FACT, THE HOUSE ON RIDGE LANE BETWEEN 136TH, AND MAIN STREET, THAT WE CONDEMNED IT HAD FALLEN IN ON IT SELF. A LOCAL RESIDENT, BUSINESS PERSON, MR. KESLLER, WHOM YOU KNOW. BOUGHT THAT LAND. AND I HAVEN'T ASKED FOR FUNDING FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. IF WE HAD AN ISSUE, I WOULD PROBABLY COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE THEY HAVE CERTAIN POWERS IN THAT STATE-AUTHORIZED AUTHORITY THAT THE CITY AS A WHOLE DOESN'T HAVE. IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE, AND HOUSING THAT NEEDED TO BE TAKEN OUT, THAT WOULD BE THE VEHICLE TO DO IT. IT'S PROBABLY OFF-TOPIC, BUT, I WANTED TO PUT THAT INTO YOUR RADAR THAT THAT
COULD HAPPEN SOME DAY. >> LET'S GO INTO THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM.
>> SO, THE GRANT PROGRAM HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL, AND, UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON ANOTHER UM, APPROPRIATION TO COVER WHAT WE DON'T HAVE FOR THAT. AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE KIND OF IN THE QUEUE AND WE'VE NOT UM, SPENT MORE THAN WE HAVE, BUT, WE COULD AND WE WILL, BUT, IF THE BUDGET'S APPROVED, WE'LL HAVE MONEY IN THE LINE ITEM TO START TO COVER THAT AND TO COMPLIMENT WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROPRIATED.
>> SO, DO YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT THAT YOU GOT? AND I WAS JUST UP IN YOUR OFFICE ASKING ABOUT THIS, BUT, WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE COFFERED FOR '23?
>> WELL, WE HAVE $1,400 LEFT. >> EXCUSE ME, '22. >> WELL, THERE'S $1,400 LEFT.
AND THEN THERE'S MORE RESIDENTS... >> IN THE QUEUE?
>> YES. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT THE QUEUE LOOKS LIKE?
>> I DON'T BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, ANY QUESTIONS? I WOULD SAY THAT PROGRAM'S BEEN WILDLY SUCCESSFUL, AS I RECALL, THAT
WAS COUNCIL PERSON FINKEM'S IDEA. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> I WOULD AGREE, I THINK THAT THE SQUAWK FUND'S A GREAT IDEA AND WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT WITHIN THIS BUDGETARY CYCLE OF BUMPING THAT UP.
>> BASED ON, OKAY, WHAT? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? >> BASED UPON, WE KIND OF TRIALED IT AND IT'S SUCCESSFUL, THIS IS A ROUNDING AREA IN THE BUDGET AND I THINK IT'S (INDISCERNIBLE) TO OUR HOMEOWNERS, BUT, I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER BUT WE COULD
DISCUSS IT. >> THE SPECIAL APPROPRIATION THAT WILL BE BEFORE THE COUNCIL
IN OCTOBER WILL BE FOR ANOTHER $50,000. >> UP FROM 25?
>> YES. >> AND THAT'S A NON-REVERTING FUND?
>> SO, IT DOESN'T CARRY OVER TO NEXT YEAR? BUT IT MOST LIKELY WILL BECAUSE OF THE CONCRETE
WORK. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, LET'S MOVE TO I GUESS, WHO WOULD BE SPEAKING TO, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY FROM ENGINEERING, ROAD BOND, WHO
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IS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK TO THIS, MAYOR, DO YOU KNOW, OR JIM? (INDISCERNIBLE)>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S THROW THEM UP THERE. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM FOR TRANSPARENCY. 405.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, WE HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE OF THESE THAT YOU COULD EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON
HERE? >> DAN, THANK YOU, DAN. GRAB A MICROPHONE.
>> DIANE WITH THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE. THIS IS A, 2004 ROAD BOND PAYMENT. IT IS IN THE BOND DOCUMENTS, THE PAYMENT THAT IS DUE EVERY YEAR TAX DOLLARS COME INTO THIS FUND AND MAKE THE BOND PAYMENT -- FUNDED. SO, IT IS TAX DOLLARS, BUT IT'S SPECIFICALLY, DESIGNATED FROM
THE COUNTY WHERE IT GOES. >> OKAY. AND THERE'S A REDUCTION, A SLIGHT REDUCTION?
WHAT CAUSES THAT? >> IT COULD BE THE NUMBER OF DAYS IN A CYCLE.
>> THAT MAKES SENSE. VERY GOOD? ANY QUESTIONS ON 405, KUDO 406?
>> THIS IS THE SAME THING, IT'S GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND THAT WE RECEIVE TAX DOLLARS FOR. UM, THE PAYMENTS ARE ALL SPECIFIED IN THE BOND DOCUMENTS, AND THAT PAYMENT IS NEARLY RIGHT ON.
BUT, THAT IS, AND THESE ARE ALL, UM, IN THESE BOND DOCUMENTS AND THIS IS WHAT COONROD'S OFFICE
RECOMMENDED TO PUT INTO THESE BUDGETS. >> OKAY. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT
OKAY. SO, AND THEN, 2021, LR PROPERTY TAX BOND? >> IT IS EXACTLY THE SAMEMENT IT'S AN INTEREST-ONLY PAYMENT, SINCE IT WAS A NEW BOND LAST YEAR, THE PAYMENT WAS
APPROXIMATELY HALF. VERY GOOD. >> THANK YOU, DIANE. THANKS FOR JUMPING IN AND THANKS FOR
BEING HERE, ACTUALLY. WE NEEDED YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. JACOB, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS AGENDA. SO, WE'RE DONE FOR TODAY. COUNCILOR RYDER, YOU
WERE ASKING ABOUT IT, WE'LL DO THE COUNCIL BUDGET TOMORROW. >> ALL RIGHT. SO, WE'RE
FINISHED, IS THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE ONE FURTHER COMMENT.
>> ARE WE STARTED AT 8:30 TOMORROW OR 8:00 A.M.? >> SO, THERE WERE THREE OF US HERE, COULD WE START ON TIME? WHO CANNOT BE HERE AT 8:00 A.M. TOMORROW. BECAUSE THERE'S NO
SENSE OF THREE OF US BEING HERE IF YOU CAN NOT BE HERE. >> I'M VIRTUAL TOMORROW.
>> CAN YOU BE HERE AT 8:00. >> OKAY. ALL
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