Feb 06, 2023 City Council Meeting 02-06-23

>> EVERYBODY READY? >> ALL RIGHT.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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WE HAVE A QUORUM. EVERYONE IS HERE.

[2. AGENDA APPROVAL]

OUT. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY.

IT'S BEEN PROPERLY SECONDED. WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE VOTE? JACOB, I DON'T HAVE VIEW OF THAT.

YOU WILL HAVE TO TELL ME. I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT...

>> STILL NEED TO GET COUNCILOR FINGAM AND COUNCILOR HANNON.

>> OH, THEY ARE HAVING A MEETING.

CAN YOU VOTE, PLEASE? >> 9-0.

[3. INVOCATION]

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL MOVE NEXT TO OUR INVOCATION.

AND PASTOR BEN SNYDER OF CARMEL FRIENDS CHURCH IS HERE.

THANK YOU, PASTOR, FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO JOIN US TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. GOOD EVENING, FRIENDS.

PLEASE JOIN ME FOR A WORD OF PRAYER.

LOVING GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US AND THE PLACE THAT YOU HAVE PUT US. LORD, WE PRAY TONIGHT THAT WE WOULD BE MINDFUL OF YOUR DIVINE PRESENCE IN OUR MIDST.

KEEP US MINDFUL OF THOSE WHO ARE REPRESENTED BY THIS COUNCIL TONIGHT. BLESS THOSE WHO SERVE AND THOSE WHO ARE SERVED. HELP US TO SEEK JUSTICE, LOVE, MERCY. IN YOUR NAME, WE PRAY.

[4. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

>> THANK YOU, PASTOR. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. COUNCILOR GREEN.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[5. RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS]

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

TONIGHT IT IS OUR HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO SWEAR IN TWO NEW POLICE OFFICERS... I'M SORRY.

THREE POLICE OFFICERS. SO IF I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER THE

CHIEF. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

EXACTLY WHAT JEFF HAS SAID. I'M PROUD TO HAVE THREE BRAND NEW POLICE OFFICERS. AT LEAST THEY ARE NEW TO US.

WE ARE LUCKY ENOUGH, WE HAVE THREE OFFICERS THAT ARE LATERAL.

THEY HAVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BRING TO THE CITY OF CARMEL.

THEY ALL WORKED FOR THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CARLTON HOWARD, CLIFTON HOAG, AND ETHAN

CARR COME UP FRONT HERE. >> DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF INDIANA.

I WILL FAITHFULLY AND IMPARTIALLY DISCHARGE MY DUTIES AS A POLICE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA.

ACCORDING TO THE LAW, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY SO HELP ME GOD. CONGRATULATIONS.

(APPLAUSE). >> WE WISH ALL OF OUR OFFICERS,

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THANK YOU TO EACH OF THEM. THANK YOU, CHIEF BARLOW.

[6. RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL]

CHARLIE DEMLER. CHARLIE, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND... COUNCILOR FINKAM? OKAY.

I THINK IT IS ON. .

>> YUP. >> HI.

CHARLIE DEMLER. 463 EMERSON ROAD.

I THINK ALL OF YOU KNOW ME. MY NEW REPRESENTATIVE.

NICE TO MEET YOU. BASICALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER IT. WHEN THE WHOLE AT&T PEER DEVELOPMENT AND BUCKINGHAM AND ALL OF THAT GOT APPROVED, THERE WAS A I HAVE THE... TIF OF I BELIEVE, $23 MILLION.

AND SINCE AT LEAST PURE DEVELOPMENT HAS PULLED OUT OF THAT, I WANTED TO FIND OUT... IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE REDUCED. I WANTED TO FIND OUT WHO COULD GIVE ME THAT ANSWER AT SOME POINT.

THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER BLUE CARDS.

THANK YOU, MR. DEMLER. NEXT UP, I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO WELCOME OUR NEWEST MEMBER OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THIS BODY.

COUNCILOR TERESA AYERS. THIS IS HER FIRST MEETING, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. SHE WAS SWORN IN EARLIER THIS EVENING BY JUDGE CAMPBELL, AND SO LET'S GIVE HER A ROUND... OF WARM APPLAUSE. (APPLAUSE) AND I ALSO WANTED TO THANK COUNCILOR CAMPBELL FOR COVERING FOR ME LAST MONTH WHEN I COULD NOT BE HERE. IT IS NOW MY HONOR, AS WE TRADITIONALLY DO, WE RECOGNIZE THE OUTGOING PRESIDENT, SO COUNCILOR RIDER, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RISE.

AND WE JUST HAVE A PLAQUE FROM ALL OF US HERE.

I'LL JUST READ IT REAL QUICK. KEVIN "WOODY" QUP RIDER.

IN RECOGNITION FOR VALUABLE SERVICE AND EXEMPLARY LEADERSHIP TO YOUR YOUR COUNCIL, COLLEAGUES, AND THE CITIZENS OF CARMEL." CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU

FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[8. CONSENT AGENDA]

CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF PAYROLL AND GENERAL CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT

OF $1,750,23 LNT 88. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

HEARING THAT, PLEASE VOTE. NEXT UP, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[10. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

THE LAND USE AND SPECIAL STUDIES, PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR COMMITTEE MET ON JANUARY 25 TO DISCUSS ORDINANCE Z679-22. WHICH AMENDS THE 2022 LEGACY P PUD. THIS WILL COME BACK WITH A 4-0 FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, AND I CAN GO INTO DETAIL WHEN IT COMES

UP ON OUR AGENDA. >> GREAT.

[11. OTHER REPORTS – (at the first meeting of the month specified below)]

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DIRECTOR, PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

FIRST, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER MR. DEMLER'S QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED. HE ASKED WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE AT&T DEVELOPMENT IF A PORTION OF IT CAN'T MOVE FORWARD.

BECAUSE THIS IS A DEVELOPER TIF, THE CITY IS NOT ON THE HOOK FOR ANY OF THE TIF AMOUNT. ANY OF THE BOND AMOUNT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

AND THE MAJORITY OF DEVELOPMENT IS STILL WITHIN THE C-ZONED AREA AND IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO RECEIVE LESS TIF ON THEIR BOND, BUT BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER IS ON THE HOOK FOR THAT AND NOT THE CITY, IT WON'T AFFECT THE CITY IN ANY WAY.

THAT IS A QUICK ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

PROCEED WITH YOUR REPORT. UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. NO.

>> THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE "NEW YORK TIMES" JUST AT THE END OF LAST MONTH. CALLED "AMERICA THE BLAND." I THOUGHT IT WAS A NUANCED ARTICLE.

I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE WORTH MENTIONING DURING MY REPORT THIS MONTH. ESSENTIALLY, IT IS AN ARTICLE ABOUT HOW 4 OVER ONE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS FOUR STORIES OF STICK-BUILT CONSTRUCTION OVER A CONCRETE PODIUM IS BEING BUILT ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.

WHICH IS A GENERALLY GOOD THING. CITIES ARE NOT FOCUSING ON ARCHITECTURE. THAT IS ALSO HAPPENING HERE IN CARMEL'S CORE, I THOUGHT IT WAS A NUANCED APPROACH TO SEE HOW...

WHAT CARMEL HAS BEEN DOING AND THE TIF PROJECTS, IT IS DIFFERENT. ESSENTIALLY, THE ARTICLE TALKS ABOUT HOW THESE FOUR OVER ONE PROJECTS WITH GROUND FLOOR RETAIL OFTEN FEATURING VIVID SLABS OF BRIGHT PANELING THAT YOU SEE... THIS IS ANYWHERE YOU GO IN ANY BIG CITY.

YOU SEE A LOT OF THESE. IT IS A BULKY DESIGN THAT IS CONSPICUOUS THROUGHOUT, FRANKLY, ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT IS HAPPENING. THE FOUR OVER ONE CONCEPT IN ITSELF IS NOT A BAD THING. HOUSING ADVOCATES SAY THAT IT IS PROVIDING HOUSING WHEN IT IS... AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN THAT IS INCREDIBLY NEEDED THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.

BUT IN MOST OF THESE CITIES, THE DESIGN TAKES A BACK SEAT TO THE NECESSITY OF THE PROJECT ITSELF. THEY CALL THIS... THAT PICTURE RIGHT THERE IS NOT THAT BAD, ACTUALLY.

THEY CALL IT ANY-TOWN ARCHITECTURE.

THE GIST OF THIS ARTICLE IS WHILE IT IS GOOD TO HAVE HOUSING AND IT IS GOOD TO HAVE THESE PROJECTS, THEY ARE THE SAME IN EVERY CITY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT ARCHITECTURE, YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT CITY IT IS FROM.

THE QUOTE AT THE BOTTOM. THEY ARE LIKE DENNY'S.

YOU COULD BE AT A DENNY'S IN IOWA OR NEW MEXICO OR COLORADO.

YOU WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE. IT IS JUST DENNY'S.

IN THE ARTICLE, THEY WENT TO... THEY ALMOST PLAY A GAME OF...

THEY ARE SHOWING A BUNCH OF THESE, AGAIN, SAME ARCHITECTURE.

CAN YOU GUESS WHAT CITY THIS SPECIFIC PIECE OF ARCHITECTURE IS IN? IT HAS THE PANELING.

IT ALL HAS THIS VERY BLAND, ALMOST PAINT BY NUMBERS TYPE OF FACADE THAT HAPPENS IN ALL THESE CITIES.

THESE PROJECTS ARE HAPPENING EVERYWHERE.

HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE THEY ASK IN THIS ARTICLE, WHICH ONE OF THESE BUILDINGS IS IN SEATTLE? I LIKE THE QUOTE. "LOOK, BIG CITIES, ALL CITIES SHOULD BE INSPIRING. CITIES SHOULD FEEL LIKE A WORK OF ART. AND THAT IS IMPORTANT." AGAIN, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME ARGUE THAT GETTING HOUSING BUILT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN NITPICKING OVER AESTHETICS. BUT THE AESTHETICS ARE A BIG DEAL. I CAN'T TELL WHICH CITY EACH SPECIFIC PICTURE NOTED THERE BELONGS IN.

AND I THINK THAT IS A GENERAL PROBLEM WHEREVER IN AMERICA.

IT IS BEGINNING TO LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME.

THE EXACT SAME TYPE OF PROJECTS. AGAIN, IT IS A POSITIVE THAT

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THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL ARK... A BEAUTIFUL BRICK FACADE.

IN OUR CITY CENTER, AGAIN, THAT IS FOUR OVER ONE.

THAT IS FIRST FLOOR COMMERCIAL WITH FOUR FLOORS OF RESIDENTIAL ABOVE IT. WE PAY ATTENTION TO CORNIS LINES. WE PAY ATTENTION TO ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS, BALCONIES.

THAT SETS CARMEL APART. THAT BUILDING RIGHT THERE ON THE LEFT, IT HAS AN ART DECO VIBE TO IT ON THE LEFT.

THAT IS A STRONG CORNER THERE. THAT PICTURE IS DATED.

THAT ART HAS BEEN MOVED. (LAUGHTER) I WILL MENTION THAT.

I SHOULD HAVE USED A... BUT NOT THE... I SHOULD HAVE USED A MORE UPDATED PICTURE. AS OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT. PICTURED IN THE ARTICLE.

REALLY THAT IS A BUILDING IF YOU TRAVEL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, THEY ARE EVERYWHERE. THE SIGNATURE UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW AT MAIN STREET IS GOING TO HAVE THIS KIND OF TWO-TOWER, TWIN TOWER ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL. THAT WILL SET IT APART.

THE CONCOURSE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF REALLY BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL ARCHITECTURE. COMPARED TO WHAT WE SEE.

I'M NOT GOING MENTION ANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

YOU SEE THEM EVERYWHERE. THESE KIND OF PANELINGS.

THE FAKE CORRUGATED METAL. RANDOM DETAILS.

AGAIN, THIS PROJECT APPROVED BY COUNCIL RECENTLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF OLD MERIDIEN AND MAIN. IT IS ALL BRICK.

THERE IS FANCY BRICK WORK. THERE IS NICE CORNICE LINES.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE SAME STUFF EVERYWHERE.

MY FAVORITE EXAMPLE OF, THIS I TOOK A PICTURE WHEN I WAS IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. FROM AN URBAN PLANNING STANDPOINT, THIS PROJECT IS AMAZING.

IT HAS A GARAGE IN THE MIDDLE. IT HAS A WHOLE FOODS AND A MICRO-TARGET. I MEAN, THAT IS A PROJECT WE WOULD KILL FOR HERE. BUT THEN THERE IS THE ARCHITECTURE. LIKE, WHAT IS THAT? WHY DID SOMEBODY THINK ANY OF THIS IS A GOOD IDEA? WHY DID THE CITY PLANNERS ALLOW THIS KIND OF ARCHITECTURE TO MOVE FORWARD? SO AS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT W WE... YEAH. IT IS REALLY GROSS.

I MEAN, I CAN'T EVEN... I DON'T KNOW WHY IT LOOKS LIKE.

THAT WHY WAS THIS OKAY? WHY WAS THIS BUILT? THEY REALLY WANTED TO MICRO-TARGET, I GUESS.

SO IT IS JUST... THE ARTICLE IS POIGNANT.

IT POINTS OUT HOW HARD OUR URBAN PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND EVERYONE HERE WORKS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PROJECTS HAVE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS THAT ARE STRIKING AND SIGNIFICANT SO WHEN YOU ARE WALKING ALONG IN CARMEL, YOU KNOW THAT IS CARMEL. NOT EVERYTOWN U.S.A.

WHICH IS WHAT THIS ARTICLE KINDS OF POINTS OUT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SOMETIMES SHOWED TO DEVELOPERS WHEN I FIRST SEE INITIAL RENDERING OF A POTENTIAL PRO PROJECT, THIS MEME. DEVELOPER MODERNISM.

DON'T DO THIS. DON'T DO THIS SAME THING THAT EVERY TOWN IS DOING ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.

CARMEL IS DIFFERENT. AND OUR ARCHITECTURE IS ONE WAY THAT WE STRIVE TO SET OURSELVES APART.

WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO DO THE USUAL REPORTS.

THE SAME STUFF AS USUAL. OR I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR I CAN CUT IT SHORT. WHATEVER COUNCIL DESIRES.

>> YEAH. WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD.

IS THERE ANYTHING NOTEWORTHY THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED IN YOUR

REPORT OF YOUR PROJECTS? >> NOT REALLY.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FIRST TO MY LEFT? ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR? ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE TO THE RIGHT? WELL, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT. >> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO 11-H.

THE ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE ETHICS BOARD.

WHICH OCCURS ALWAYS IN FEBRUARY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CARMEL ETHICS BOARD, AS YOU SAID FOR OUR ANNUAL REPORT. I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THERE WERE NO ETHICS COMPLAINTS FILED WITH THE BOARD IN 2022.

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TO ALL FULL-TIME-PART-TIME, SEASONAL CITY EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS THE MAYOR, CLERK, COUNCILORS AND ALL MEMBERS OF COMMISSIONS AND CITY BOARDS. I RECEIVED 232 RESPONSES.

WE SENT OUT ABOUT 1,015. KEEP IN MIND THAT A RESPONSE ISN'T REQUIRED UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A STATEMENT OF ECONOMIC INTEREST TO DISCLOSE. WHEN YOU RECEIVE IT NEXT MONTH, OR IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DISCLOSE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEND A RESPONSE. AS I SAID, WE ARE CURRENTLY PREPARING TO SEND THE NOTICE OUT TO ALL APPROPRIATE PERSONS FOR 2022. AS WE DO THIS IN ARREARS.

AND THOSE SHOULD GO OUT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE STATEMENT OF ECONOMIC INTEREST IS ONLY RELATED TO THE CITY'S ETHICS CODE.

FILING THIS STATEMENT, IF YOU FILE A STATEMENT OF ECONOMIC INTEREST, IT DOESN'T RELIEVE YOU OF THE DUTY TO FILE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST DISCLOSURE. THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BY INDIANA STATE LAW. THEY HAVE A BIT DIFFERENT SUBJECT MATTER. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW. THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR MY REPORT. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

ANY QUESTIONS? REGARDING ETHICS.

COUNCILOR HANNON? >> I KNOW THIS IS AN H.R.

QUESTION, BUT I KNOW OUR NEWISH H.R. DIRECTOR IS STANDARDIZING POLL SIS AND PROCEDURES AND TRAINING.

I CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE WITH YOUR INPUT, THAT WE HAVE ETHICS AND CONFLICT OF INTEREST MODULES WITHIN THAT H.R.

TRAINING. IS THAT AVAILABLE NOW?

DO Y YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW? >> THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON THE ROLLOUT. THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE THROUGH NEO-GOV. THERE ARE SEVERAL MODULES.

LY TALK TO DIRECTOR HARTZ. I CAN APPRISE YOU FROM THERE.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO CONSULT ON THAT, TOO.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.

NEXT WE MOVE ON TO 11-J. PARKS DEPARTMENT.

DIRECTOR? >> THE SCREEN JUST GOES BLANK.

DO YOU HAVE TO HIT A TOGGLE UP ON THE FUNCTION KEYS?

>> HISTORICALLY, I HAVEN'T. >> HENRY, WOULD YOU MIND SHOWING IF THERE IS ANY SECRET TO GETTING THE SCREEN TO WORK,

PLEASE? >> IT USUALLY JUST TAKES A

SECOND. >> THERE WE GO.

>> YEAH. WE HAVE A MEMBER... I APOLOGIZE.

LET'S CALL IN IN THE CAVALRY. (LAUGHTER).

>> THAT LOOKS POSITIVE. EXCELLENT.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. DIRECTOR OF CARMEL PARKS AND RECREATION. AS ALWAYS, I'M PLEASED TO COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO GIVE MY QUARTERLY REPORT OF A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LAST YEAR AND SOME OF THE SUCCESSES FROM 2022 AS WELL AS SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE LINEUP FOR THIS YEAR.

TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT REVENUES, AND I HAVEN'T DONE THIS RELATIVELY RECENTLY. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT PREAND POST-COVID.

2019 WAS... 2019 WAS ACTUALLY, ONE OF OUR MOST SUCCESSFUL YEARS THAT WE HAD AT CARMEL-CLAY PARKS AND RECREATION.

ESPECIALLY OUR ENTERPRISE OPERATIONS.

EXTENDED SCHOOL ENRICHMENT WHICH INVOLVES THE BEFORE AND AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS AND SUMMER CAMPS AND RECREATION FACILITIES.

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SO COMBINED, THOSE OPERATIONS IN 2019 HAD APPROXIMATELY $# 1.4 MILLION IN REVENUE, GROWS REVENUE.

WE NETTED RIGHT ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS WHICH UP TO THAT POINT, WAS OUR BEST YEAR THAT WE HAD EVER HAD.

AND THEN COVID. $6.1 MILLION, $2.7 MILLION LOST IN THOSE OPERATIONS. WE REPORTED THAT TO YOU BEFORE.

IT WAS THE FIRST YEAR SINCE 2009 THAT WE DID NOT ACHIEVE 100% COST RECOVERY WITH OUR ENTERPRISE OPERATIONS.

THAT HAPPENED TO BE THE 2010... THE FIRST YEAR THAT THE COMMUNITY CENTER WAS COMPLETELY SELF-SUFFICIENT.

AND THAT WAS ONLY ITS THIRD YEAR OF OPERATIONS.

FORTUNATELY, 2021, WE DID REBOUND.

NOT ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2019, BUT WE DID FINISH IN THE BLACK.

WITH ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.

THAT INCOME OFF OF $7.7 MILLION IN REVENUE.

I'M PLEASED TO REPORT LAST YEAR, THAT WHILE WE ARE NOT ALL THE WAY BACK, WE ARE PRETTY CLOSE. $10.9 MILLION.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR BEST NET THAT WE HAVE EVER HAD AS A PARK SYSTEM AT $1.8 MILLION. SO VERY PLEASED WITH THE OPERATIONS THAT IS WE HAVE, THE STAFF THAT WORKED DILIGENTLY.

THE PAINFUL CHANGES THAT WE AT TIMES, HAD TO MAKE REGARDING STAFFING AND OVERALL OPERATIONS TO MEET THE REALITIES OF TODAY'S MARKET. BUT WE HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AT THAT. AND 2023 # AND THE FIRST MONTH HAS GOTTEN OFF TO A GOOD START AS WELL.

THERE IS SOME METRICS THAT I LOOK AT PRETTY CLOSELY AS FAR AS HOW WE ARE DOING. OF COURSE, COST RECOVERY WHICH FOR US IS OUR OPERATIONAL REVENUES FOR THOSE ENTERPRISE OPERATIONS I JUST EXPLAINED. DIVIDED BY EXPENSES.

SO AGAIN, EVERY YEAR SINCE 2010, THESE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN GREEN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 2020 WHERE WE HAD 70% COST RECOVERY.

THOSE RELATE DIRECTLY TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE I GAVE YOU.

ANOTHER METRIC THAT I LOOK AT IS OUR CAST RESERVES.

FOR EACH OF THOSE ENTERPRISES, THEY OPERATE OUT OF NONREVERTING FUNDS. THE REVENUES THAT WE COLLECT, AS LONG AS WE MAKE A NET, THOSE STAY WITHIN THE FUND AND SERVE FOR A VARIETY OF PURPOSES. FIRST, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS OR RESERVES TO BASICALLY CASH-FLOW OUR OPERATIONS. WE ARE A VERY SEASONAL OPERATION. A LOOT OF OUR REVENUES, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER ARE TIED TO THE WATER PARK. WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT COMING IN DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS. WE HAVE FAST HUGE SPIKE OF REVENUE BEFORE SUMMER INTO SUMMER FROM THE SUMMER CAMP OPERATIONS. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THOSE MONTHS WHERE WE MAYBE DON'T NECESSARILY FOR THAT MONTH BREAK EVEN, THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO PAY THE BILLS. AND WE CONSISTENTLY DO.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE USE CASH RESERVES FOR ARE FOR RAINY DAYS.

AND UNEXPECTED EXPENSES. NONE GREATER THAN COVID-19.

SO FORTUNATELY, I USUALLY TRY TO MAKE SURE OUR CASH RESERVES IDEALLY ARE AT 70% OR HIGHER. THAT ALLOWS US TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR CASH FLOW AS WELL AS THOSE UNEXPECTED EXPENSES. WE ALSO TRIED TO GROW THOSE OVER THE YEARS. IN 2018, WE WERE ACTUALLY CLOSER TO 80% WITH OUR CASH RESERVES. WE GROW THOSE EXPENSES SO THAT WE HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO REINVEST INTO THOSE OPERATIONS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN 2019 AND 2020, WE SPENT COLLECTIVELY ABOUT $1.8 MILLION THOSE WERE COLLECTED RESERVES AND OUR 108 FUND FROM SUMMER CAMPS WERE ULTIMATELY USED TO HELP PAY FOR CONSTRUCTION IN THE PARK.

THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE CASH RESERVES THAT WE ULTIMATELY BUILD UP FROM THE NET REVENUES WE GENERATE.

AGAIN, IF WE GET BELOW 70%S, THAT ASSURES THAT IF WE HAVE A DRAMATIC YEAR LIKE COVID-19 IN 2020 THAT, WE HAVE THE RESOURCE THAT IS WE DON'T HAVE TO COME TO THIS BODY TO REQUEST A TAX SUBSIDY TO FUND OUR OPERATIONS. WE WERE ABLE TO USE OUR RESERVES TO GET THROUGH THE RAINY DAYS, THE RAINY MONTHS, THE RAINY YEAR TO BE ABLE TO, AGAIN, BE BACK AT... BACK IN THE BLACK AND OPERATING WHERE WE ARE. 2021, WE BROUGHT RESERVES BACK UP TO 66%. WE SPENT NO DOLLARS THOSE YEARS.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE SPENT ANY DOLLARS IN 2020.

THOSE WERE CARRYOVERS FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

AND 2022, WE ALSO DIDN'T SPEND ANY OF OUR CASH RESERVES FOR CAPITAL REINVESTMENT. SOLELY, TO INSURE... ENSURE THATHATWE ARE, AGAIN, BUILDING . WHAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO HERE IN THE FUTURE, SOME OF THOSE FUNDS WILL HELP US, FOR EXAMPLE, BUILD THE INDOOR PLAYGROUND THAT I PREVIOUSLY REPORTED IN MY LAST

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YOU KNOW, WE ARE ON SOLID GROUND.

AND CONTINUE TO LOOK VERY POSITIVE.

I WANTED TO SHARE SOME METRICS THAT I DO LOOK AT VERY CLOSELY.

THAT HELPS ME DEMONSTRATE THAT WE TRULY ARE A SUSTAINABLE PARK SYSTEM. ESPECIALLY FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE. IN 202022, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT REVENUE, $11.1 MILLION WAS EARNED INCOME.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT WERE REVENUES I JUST TALKED ABOUT.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT I REPORTED FOR ARE DONATIONS WE RECEIVED AS WELL AS INTEREST EARNED ON OUR ACCOUNTS.

WE RECEIVED $4.9 MILLION FROM THE CITY OF CARMEL WHICH FUNDS OUR GENERAL FUND. THAT IS PAYING FOR ALL OF THE GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES. NOT FOR ANY STAFF EMPLOYED OR USED TO OPERATE THE COMMUNITY CENTER OR EXTENDED SCHOOL ENRICHMENT. YOU KNOW, POSITIONS LIKE MY OWN, H.R., THOSE TYPES OF FUNCTIONS OR MAINTENANCE OF THE PARKS.

ALL OF THOSE AREAS WE PROVIDE AND ARE IMPORTANT FOR US TO PROVIDE WITHIN THE PARKS, THE UPKEEP OF... THE MOWING OF THE PARKS TEXAS LANDSCAPE, ALL OF THAT IS PAID OUT OF $4.9 MILLION FROM THE CITY. WE RECEIVED LAST YEAR, $3.6 MILLION FROM CLAY TOWNSHIP. FROM THE LOCAL INCOME TAX DOLLARS THAT ARE ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE CENTRAL PARK BOND.

THOSE ARE USED TO HELP BUILD THE THINGS WITHIN THE PARKS.

AS WELL AS DO RENOVATIONS. AND THEN WE RECEIVED LAST YEAR, JUST UNDER .8 MILLION FROM IMPACT FEES.

THESE ARE THE FEE THAT IS ARE PAID FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE FEE THAT IS CAME TO BENEFIT PARKS.

COUNCIL IN THE PAST, AS THE CIT- COMMUNITY FOR TRADITIONAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN SUBDIVISIONS STARTS TO DWINDLE AS THE LAND IS ATE UP, THE IMPACT FEES THAT ARE COMING TOWARDS PARKS WILL CONTINUE TO DWINDLE. THE YEAR BEFORE WE HAD OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. THIS IS THE LEAST AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE HAD OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

AND AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SURPRISE ME JUST BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT ISN'T HAPPENING IN CERTAIN AREAS OF TOWN. THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT NEW FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND JUST TO SORT OF ILLUSTRATE IT, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR, WE RECEIVED UNDER A MILLION DOL DOLLARS.

TO BUILD ALL OF BEAR CREEK PARK BASED ON THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED WITH PUBLIC INPUT. THAT PARK IS A LITTLE YOU SHOULD $0 MILLION. ... UNDER $30 MILLION.

BASENED ON THE NATURE PARK IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER, THAT IS A $30 MILLION PARK. A MILLION DOLLARS OR YEAR... A YEAR OR DWINDLING IS CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO DO MUCH TO HELP BUILD THOSE PARKS. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM LAST YEAR.

THANKS TO THE CLAY TOWNSHIP IMPACT PROGRAM, WE DID FINISH AND OPEN THE RENOVATION OF FOUR OF OUR PARKS.

LAWRENCE PARK ON THE EVES SIDE, MEADOW LARK PARK HERE IN THE CENTRAL CORE, RIVER HERITAGE PARK ON THE EAST SIDE ALSO, TOUCHING THE RIVER, NORTH OF 116TH STREET, AND OF COURSE, WEST PARK. ONE OF THE REGIONAL PARKS ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN. SOME KEY NUMBERS.

VISITORS, CUSTOMERS SERVED THROUGH OUR PROGRAMS AND FACILITIES. JUST UNDER 580,000 VISITORS TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND WATER PARK.

WE HAD UNDER 108,000 PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROGRAMS. PREDOMINANTLY AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE PARTICIPANTS IN THE GROUP FITNESS PROGRAMS. ABOUT 94,000.

THE REST ARE IN RECREATION, AQUATICS, AND SIMILAR TYPES OF PROGRAMS. WITHIN OUR SUMMER CAMPS, WE HAD JUST UNDER 7,000 ENROLLED PARTICIPANTS IN LAST YEAR'S CAMPS. LAST SCHOOL YEAR, WE HAD A LITTLE UNDER 2,100 ENROLLED PARTICIPANTS IN THE BEFORE AND AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAM. RESIDENTS THAT HAVE HELPED CONTRIBUTE AND SERVE THE PARK SYSTEM AND OUR GREATER COMMUNITY, WE HAD OVER 3,357 VOLUNTEER HOURS.

CONTRIBUTING TO THE PARKS. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT WAS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP PROJECTS TO REMOVE INVASIVE SPECIES. PARK CLEANUPS.

THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SOME OF THE NEXT LARGEST CATEGORY, VOLUNTEER HOURS, IS TOWARDS OUR ADAPTIVE PROGRAM.

PROGRAMS THAT SERVE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

ASSISTANTS THAT HELP US PROVIDE THOSE PROGRAMS. VERY SUCCESSFUL YEAR IN 2022. SO SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE STARTING THIS YEAR IS, AS I BELIEVE ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE, WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN WHICH GUIDES THE DEVELOPMENT AND MANAGEMENT OF THE PARK SYSTEM.

OUR CURRENT MASTER PLAN IS ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO GO THROUGH 2025. BUT BASED ON THE DRAMATIC CHANGES THAT HAVE IMPACTED THE PARKS SYSTEM THANKS LARGELY TO

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BECAUSE THE OLD PLAN, IN MANY WAYS, IS NOW OBSOLETE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ATTUNED TO THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE PARK SYSTEM TODAY, NOT BASED ON THE INPUT THAT WE HAD THAT PREDATED 2019. CERTAINLY A LOT OF CHANGES SINCE THEN. SO WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN IS THAT IT INCORPORATES A NUMBER OF ASSESSMENTS AND INPUT THAT IS DONE BEFORE WE DEVELOP THE PLAN.

THE PLAN IS SIGNIFICANTLY DEVELOPED BASED ON COMMUNITY INPUT. WE DO A STATISTICALLY VALID COMMUNITY SURVEY SO WE UNDERSTAND BROADLY WHAT RESIDENTS WANT AND LIKE ABOUT THE PARK SYSTEM AS WELL AS CHALLENGES THAT THEY MIGHT SEE. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF STAKE HOLDER INTERVIEWS WITH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WITH THE TOWNSHIP BOARD AND WITH OTHER COMMUNITY LEADERS TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE ABOUT THE PARK SYSTEM.

AGAIN, WHAT THEY LIKE AND THINGS WHERE WE CAN POTENTIALLY BETTER IMPROVE TO SERVE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE FOCUS GROUPS WITH USER GROUPS AND NON-USER GROUPS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE... AGAIN, WHAT WE ARE DOING WELL AND WHERE WE CAN BETTER SERVE COMMUNITY.

IN THIS MASTER PLAN, WE ARE GOING TO DO A SPECIAL OUTREACH TO GROUPS THAT MAYBE HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED BY THE PARKS SYSTEM OR NEWER TO THE COMMUNITY THAT DON'T COME TO THAT TRADITIONAL MEETING AT 6:00 P.M. IN THE EVENING.

WE ARE LOOKING TO GO TO THE CHURCHES AND SYNAGOGUES AND MOSQUES TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR PARISHIONERS AND MEMBERS ARE THINKING ABOUT PARKS AND HOW THEY MIGHT USE THE PARKS. WE ARE TALKING TO NEWER RESIDENTS THAT MAYBE HAVE EMIGRATED TO THE UNITED STATES THAT MAYBE USE PARKS DIFFERENTLY THAN SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN IN THE UNITED STATES A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

THAT WILL BE PART OF THE INPUT PROCESS FOR THIS NEW MASTER PLAN. THERE WILL BE AN ASSET CONDITIONS ASSESSMENT. YOU KNOW, WHAT CONDITION ARE ALL OF THE PARKS AND FACILITIES IN. FORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANT UPGRADES THAT WE HAVE MADE THANKS TO THE CLAY TOWNSHIP IMPACT PROGRAM, THIS SHOULD BE ONE OF THE EASIEST LIFTS. MOST OF THE PARKS ARE IN TREMENDOUS CONDITION BECAUSE THEY HAVE JUST RECENTLY BEEN RENOVATED. WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT UPDATING THE ASSET PLAN THAT WE PREVIOUSLY HAD DEVELOPED WITH THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN AND MAKING SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CAPITAL NEEDS ARE FOR REPLACEMENT AND REPAIRS OF THE EXISTING ASSETS. AND THEN WE WILL ALSO BE DOING A CORE SERVICES ASSESSMENT. YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE AND SHOULD BE OUR CORE SERVICES? YOU KNOW, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AND ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THE RIGHT THINGS TO PROVIDE? ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING THAT ARE NO LONGER NECESSARY FOR CARMEL CLAY PARKS AND RECREATION TO DO? I WILL USE AN EXAMPLE FROM THE PAST. BEFORE IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THE PARK SYSTEM, WE PROVIDED A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY EVENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF CARMEL AND CLAY TOWNSHIP.

YOU GO INTO KIDS CONCERTS IN OUR PARKS OR MOVIES.

DIFFERENT TYPES OF ACTIVITIES. AS THE CENTRAL CORE WAS DEVELOPMENT AND SPECIFIC EVENT SPACE WAS CREATED LIKE MIDTOWN PLAZA, MORE AND MORE OF THOSE O'EVENTS DRIFTED TOWARDS THE CENTRAL PART OF THE CITY. AND WERE EVENTS THAT IS WERE FACILITATED LARGELY BY THE SAY Y OF CARMEL.

IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE PARK SYSTEM'S GOAL TO SERVE UNDERSERVED NEEDS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

IF THE NEED IS BEING SERVED IN A DIFFERENT AREA, IS IT NECESSARILY THE BEST USE OF DOLLARS TO COMPETE WITH THOSE VERY SPECK EVENTS OR IS THERE A WAY TO REDIRECT THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS MORE NEEDED SERVICES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? WHAT WE CHOSE TO DO IS GET OUT OF SPECIAL EVENTS, SUPPORT THE CITY IN THOSE, BUT WHAT WE INSTEAD DO HAVE INCREASED OUR ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP PROGRAMMING AND HIRED NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF WHICH IS DEFINITELY A CORE SERVICE OF THE PARKS SYSTEM. WE WILL HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND IN THE COMMUNITY INPUT, ASK, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO DO? WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER NOT DOING, IF ANY? WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE ARE NOT DOING TODAY THAT SHOULD BE A CORE SERVICE OF THE PARK SYSTEM? THAT WILL BE PART OF THE FRONT END OF THE MASTER PLAN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE COMPENCIVE MASTER PLAN.

WHERE WE ESTABLISH THE PRIORITIES, GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE PARK SYSTEM FOR THE NEXT FIVE-YEAR TIME FRAME.

THEN EMANATING FROM THE PLAN WILL BE OUR REVISED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. YOU KNOW, BASED ON THOSE PRIORITIES, WHAT SHOULD WE BE DEVELOPING? WHAT ARE OUR CAPITAL FUNNING NEEDS FOR NEW IMPROVEMENTS OR RENOVATIONS WITHIN THE PARK SYSTEM? BUILDING OFF OF THAT IS AN UPDATE TO THE ZONE IMPROVEMENT PLAN. BY LAW, IT HAS TO BE EUN DATED EVERY FIVE YEARS AT LEAST. FOR US, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE ZONE IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN

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THOSE SMALLER PLANS ARE ACTUALLY INCLUDED AS APPENDICES WITHIN THE OVERARCHING MASTER PLAN. THIS TIME, WE ALSO WILL BE DOING BUSINESS PLANS SPECIFICALLY FOR EXTENDED SCHOOL ENRICHMENT AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER. UPDATING DOCUMENTS THAT ARE NOW WORTHY OF BEING UPDATED. TO ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR PAYING CUSTOMERS.

BECAUSE THEY ARE SPENDING THEIR DISCRETIONARY TIME AND INCOME WITH US. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PLANS ARE REFLECTIVE OF THAT SO WE CAN MANAGE ACCORDINGLY.

YOU WILL BE HEARING ME TALK ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN A LOT MORE THIS YEAR. YOU WILL BE SEEING INVITES FROM ME OR FROM MY STAFF INVITING YOU TO VARIOUS MEETINGS OR KEEPING YOU POSTED AS TO UPDATES. WE WANTED TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF YOU NOW SO YOU ARE NOT SURPRISED OR WONDERING WHAT THE HECK I'M YAMMERING ABOUT FOR THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.

OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THIS COMPLETED AND APPROVED BY THE PARK BOARD BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST TWO JOINT MEETINGS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, THE TOWNSHIP BOARD, THE PARK BOARD.

ONE ON THE FRONT END TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT ALL THE INPUT INFORMATION WE RECEIVED, AND THEN ONE ON THE BACK END BEFORE WE FINALIZE THE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES THAT WE ARE ESTABLISHING ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY LEADERS' GOALS AND PRIORITIES AS WELL.

THAT WILL ALL BE FORTHCOMING. SOME ADDITIONAL UPDATES.

I'LL GO OVER THESE VERY QUICKLY. AS MENTIONED AT THE LAST ONE, THANKS TO A $4 MILLION READY GRANT FROM THE INDIANA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, WE WILL BE EXTENDING THE WHITE RIVER GREENWAY FROM WHERE IT CURRENTLY ENDS ALL THE WAY TO 146TH STREET. THIS IS IN COLLABORATION WITH CONNOR PRAIRIE WHICH WILL BE GRANGT US AN EASEMENT FOR HALF OF THE TRAIL. WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

INCORPORATED WITHIN THAT IS A TRAIL HEAD SOUTH OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THERE. AS WELL AS A GREAT SCENIC OVERLOOK OF THE RIVER WHICH WILL ACTUALLY BE LOOKING OVER TOWARDS CONNOR PRAIRIE AND A VERY NATURALIZED AREA AS WELL.

IT WILL BE A SCENIC PLACE FOR RESIDENTS TO CHECK OUT.

ADDITIONALLY, WE WILL BE EXPANDING THE TRAIL NETWORKS, FILLING IN THE GAPS SO RIVER HERITAGE PARK WHICH WAS JUST REOPENED WITH THE TRAIL LOOPS THAT WE HAVE THERE IS CONNECTED ULTIMATELY TO THE COUNTY'S RIVER ROAD PARK AND ULTIMATELY, THAT WILL BE DESIGNATED AS PART OF THE WHITE RIVER GREENWAY.

BOTH PROJECTS ARE ANTICIPATED TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION START THIS YEAR. THE SOUTHERN LEG IS SA PRETTY SHORT ONE. I THINK THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE THAT THAT WILL STILL OPEN BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR.

THE NORTHERN LAKE... LEG WHICH IS OVER TWO MILES INCLUDES A LITTLE BIT TRICKIER TERRAIN. THAT ONE WILL LIKELY NOT OPEN UNTIL 2024. BOTH PROJECTS WILL BE STARTED THIS YEAR. I'M ALSO GRATEFUL TO HAMILTON COUNTY WHICH HAS GIVEN US AN ADDITIONAL $1 MILLION GRANT BASED ON US RECEIVING THE READY GRANT OF $4 MILLION WHICH WILL BE USED FOR ENHANCEMENTS ENVISIONED ALONG THE TRAIL, CREATING SOME MORE NATURAL AREAS, WETLANDS.

TO MAKE THE NORTH EXTENSION A LITTLE BIT MORE SCENIC AND INTERESTING. ALL DONE IN COLLABORATION WITH CONNOR PRAIRIE. A GOOD PORTION OF THAT WILL BE ON THEIR PROPERTY. GOING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SO SOUTH, ALONG THE RIVER CORRIDOR, BUT STAYING ON THE EAST SIDE, LAST MONDAY I HAD A PRESENTATION TO THE CARMEL CLAY SCHOOL BOARD TO DISCUSS A PROPOSAL THAT THE PARKS SYSTEM HAS TOWARDS SCHOOLS. THERE IS ROUGHLY 50 ACRES OF AN 80-ACRE PARCEL MAIN STREET AND RIVER ROAD THAT THE CARMEL-CLAY SCHOOL DISTRICT OWNS. WE ARE PROPOSING AND FLOATED THE IDEA OF USING THAT AS A LOCATION FOR OUR SECOND DOG PARK AS WE WELL-KNOW, THERE IS OVER 600 DOGS ON THE WAITING LIST.

THERE IS SIGNIFICANT DEMAND. WE ARE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS BOTH ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES TO BETTER ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS. THIS PROPERTY HAS ALSO THE ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY BUILD A COMMUNITY GARDEN WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS AN INTEREST OF RESIDENTS IN OUR LAST COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN. AND WE ALWAYS KNOW OUR NUMBER ONE INTEREST FROM THE COMMUNITY IS MORE TRAIL EXPERIENCES.

WITH THE WOODED AREAS AND THE SPORTS FIELDS, THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND CLUB... THERE IS AN ABILITY TO CREATE A NATURE TRAIL LOOP SYSTEM IN THERE. IF THE SCHOOL BOARD IS CURRENTLY CONSIDERING THAT, IF THEY HAVE A CONSENSUS, IT DOESN'T GUARANTEE APPROVAL OF THIS OR THAT IT IS MOVING FORWARD.

BUT IT WOULD BE AUTHORIZATION TO ALLOW US TO DO OUR NEXT STEP WHICH IS TO SOLICIT COMMUNITY INPUT TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS PRACTICAL AND WELL-RECEIVED TO TAKE ANY FEEDBACK TO MAKE IT A BETTER PLAN.

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PRESUMING EVERYTHING GOES FAVORABLE.

I CAN'T GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC TIMELINE ON THIS.

THE GOAL IS IF THE SCHOOL BOARD ULTIMATELY CONSENTS TO THIS WHICH I'M OPTIMISTIC THEY WILL, WE WILL START THAT PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS THIS SPRING. OR SUMMER AT THE LATEST.

ALSO, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CARMEL CLAY SCHOOLS.

WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME PROPERTY OF THEIRS THAT IS UNDEVELOPED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE NEW PARKING STRUCTURE FOR CARMEL CLAY LICK LIBRARY. ... PUBLIC LIBRARY.

IT IS OWNED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

ONE OF THE THINGS... OUR ORIGINAL GOALS AS WE WERE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND THE TOWNSHIP ON EXPANDING THE JAPANESE GARDEN AND THE STORMWATER COMPONENTS HERE SOUTH OF CITY HALL WAS MAYBE MAKING THAT A SISTERS CITIES GARDEN.

IT WAS. MATILY DETERMINED THAT IT WAS BEST TO KEEP THAT SPACE A JAPANESE GUARDENED AND MAYBE FIND OTHER WAYS TO RECOGNIZE THE OTHER SISTER CITIES.

THE FIRST ONE THAT WAS BEING CONSIDERED WAS THE CHINESE GARDEN. CARMEL-CLAY PARKS AGREED TO SORT OF TAKE THE LEAD, MAYBE TRYING TO FIND A LOCATION, WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY. ONE POSSIBLE LOCATION THAT WE IDENTIFIED WORKING CLOSELY WITH MIKE AT DOCS IS THIS PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED IN RED. AGAIN, THE SCHOOL BOARD WOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE TO GRANT AUTHORIZATION FOR US TO DO SO.

WHAT WE WOULD ENVISION IS DEVELOPING A PARK HERE THAT CELEBRATES THE CHINESE CULTURE AND OUR VIBRANT CHINESE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS OUR SISTER CITY.

AND WHAT WE ARE DOING, PRESUMING THE SCHOOL BOARD GIVES CONSENT TO CONTINUE THE EXPLORATION, THE PLANNING FOR THIS, WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS. I'M GETTING READY TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH PURDUE UNIVERSITY AND THEIR ARCHITECTURE PROGRAM, TO BRING IN A PROFESSOR AS WELL AS SOME OF HER STUDENTS TO HELP LEAD THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS. ONE OF THOSE STUDENTS IS ACTUALLY A GRADUATE OF CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL.

AND THEY WILL BE SOLICITING THE FEEDBACK, HAVING SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CHINESE COMMUNITY, DOING A SURVEY TO IDENTIFY WHAT THIS SPACE COULD LOOK LIKE.

AGAIN, BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK, WE WILL PRESENT A PLAN TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. IF THEY ARE AMENABLE TO THAT AND AGREE TO THAT, IT WILL ALSO GO TO THE PARK BOARD FOR THEIR CONSENT. NOW, ONE CAVEAT I WILL PUT TO THIS. WHILE CARMEL-CLAY PARKS AND RECREATION AGREED TO HELP LEAD THE PLANNING AND ULTIMATELY, IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN DEVELOPMENT, THE LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE OF THIS INCREDIBLE ASSET, WE DO HAVE... WE DO NOT HAVE ANY DEDICATED FUNDING FOR. THIS WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO THE CITY OR PRIVATE SOURCES TO HELP FUND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT.

THAT WAS A CONDITION THAT I PUT UP FRONT WHEN TALKING WITH CITY ADMINISTRATION. I DO NOT HAVE ANY DEDICATED FUNDS. IT IS NOT PART OF THE MASTER PLAN. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS...

WOULD BE AN INCREDIBLE ASSET FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

JUMPING TO CENTRAL PARK AS PREVIOUSLY REPORTED, WE HAVE ISSUED THE CONTRACT. THIS SPRING, WE WILL COMPLETE THE LAST LOOP OF... OR LAST SEGMENT TO CREATE A TRUE LOOP AROUND THE LAGOON IN THE WEST SIDE OF CENTRAL PARK.

THIS WILL CREATE APPROXIMATELY A 1.4-MILE PAVED TRAIL.

COMPLETELY AROUND THE WATER AND WETLANDS.

SO SOMEONE CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT LOOP AND NEVER HAVE TO CROSS THE INTERIOR DRIVE WITHIN THE PARKS. SHOULD BE A WELL-RECEIVED AMENITY. CONSTRUCTION WILL START THIS SPRING. IT SHOULDN'T TAKE TOO LONG.

I WOULD ANTICIPATE REDS DENT... RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY IT BEGINNING THIS SUMMER. JUMPING TO THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, AS PREVIOUSLY REPORTED, WE ARE CURRENTLY OUT TO BID FOR COMPLETING THE MISSING LINK, IF YOU WILL, OF THE EXISTING PERIMETER TRAILS ALONG 116TH STREET.

IT WILL CONNECT INTO THE TEMPLE THAT IS ON... JUST SOUTH OF WEST PARK. THERE IS TRAILS THAT TAKE YOU ALL THE WAY TO SHELBURNE AND BEYOND.

AND WITHIN THE INTERIOR TRAILS THAT ALREADY EXIST AND PERIMETER TRAILS THAT GO BEYOND IT, CONNECTING TO TOWN ROAD.

PROVIDING CRITICAL CONNECTIVITY TO WEST PARK.

THAT IS ONE OF THE TOP REQUESTS THAT I KNOW THE CITY HAS RECEIVED. AND CERTAINLY THE PARKS SYSTEM HAS RECEIVED, TOO. ALSO, A SEPARATE PROJECT BUT ON THE SAME TIMELINE, IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THREE ADDITIONAL SHELTERS WITHIN WEST PARK. CLOSER TO WHERE THE PLAYGROUND IS. ULTIMATELY, FIVE THERE.

WE ARE LOOKING AT BUILDING THE FIRST THREE NOW.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WHEN WE DID THE RENOVATION PROJECT IN WEST PARK, THE LARGE SHELTER THAT IS NOW IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PLAYGROUND IS DESIGNATED AS A COMMUNITY

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WE ARE NOW CONSTRUCTING THREE LARGER SHELTERS TO MORE THAN REPLACE THE ONE THAT IS NOW DESIGNATED AS A COMMUNITY SHELTER. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, MARCH 1 WILL BE THE DATE THAT REGISTRATION OPENS FOR OUR VERY POPULAR SUMMER CAMPS. MANY OF THE CAMPS SELL OUT WITHIN MINUTES. MANY... THE OTHER ONES WITHIN HOURS OR WITHIN SEVERAL DAYS. AND THEN THERE IS A FEW THAT GO A LITTLE BIT LONGERST, BUT MARCH 1 IS ENROLLMENT TIME.

THERE IS EARLY ENROLLMENT FOR EXISTING KIDS AND FAMILY THAT IS ARE ENROLLED IN THE ESE PROGRAM. THAT STARTS AT, I BELIEVE, 8:00 A.M. FOR THE GENERAL POPULATION, THE ENROLLMENT STARTS. THAT IS AVAILABLE AN OUR WEBSITE. CARMELCLAYPARKS.COM.

ALL THE CAMPS AND DETAILS TO GET YOUR KIDS ENROLLED, AVAILABLE AT CARMELCLAYPARKS.COM. WITH THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

>> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. COUNCILOR FINKAM.

>> FIRST OF ALL BRARKS VOA ON A ROCKING PRESENTATION.

THAT WAS FANTASTIC. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING YOU DEMONSTRATED IS WHAT AN EFFECTIVE DEPARTMENT SHOULD DO

IN A WORLD-CLASS CITY. >> THANK YOU.

>> AN OVERVIEW OF INPUT ON HOW TO MAKE DECISIONS, A DESCRIPTION OF YOUR DATA. VERY TRANSPARENT ON OPERATIONS.

VERY PROACTIVE ON PLANNING. BRAVO.

IF THIS WAS THE N.B.A., THAT WOULD BE A BACKBOARD SLAM DUNK.

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.

>> YOU MAKE OUR JOB SO EASY WHEN YOU GIVE A PRESENTATION LIKE.

THAT TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. DO YOU HAVE THE PERMITS AND THE

TIMELINE FOR THE OVERLOOK? >> WHICH?

>> THE OVERLOOK ON THE WHITE RIVER AND THE PATH GOING FORWARD? DO YOU HAVE THAT SET YET?

ARE WE WAITING START STATE? >> WE ARE STILL GOING THROUGH THE PERMITTING FOR. THAT WE ARE FINISHING THE DESIGN. I BELIEVE WITHIN A MONO, IT WILL BE GOING TO THE STATE FOR PERMITTING.

THAT IS GOING TO BE A CRITICAL PATH.

WHEN WE CAN START CONSTRUCTION. >> THANK YOU FOR.

THAT SECOND OF ALL, I GOT SLIGHTLY CHASTISED FOR NOT HAVING PICKLEBALL IN WEST PARK. THE STRUGGLE IS REAL.

THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO LOOK FOR WAYS AND PLACES FOR THAT

SPORT TO GROW IN OUR COMMUNITY. >> ABSOLUTELY.

LY NOTE THAT BEAR CREEK PARK WHICH WOULD BE A GOOD REASON FOR US TO FIND FUNDING FOR IT DOES HAVE THE ABILITY FOR SPORTS COURTS BASED ON THE PUBLIC INPUT WE RECEIVED.

WHEN WE DID THE INITIAL MASTER... OR THE MOST RECENT MASTER PLAN FOR WEST PARK, THERE WASN'T STRONG SUPPORT FOR ANY TYPES OF SPORTS COURTS WITHIN WEST PARK.

VERY STRONG NATURE FOCUS WITHIN THAT PARK.

THAT IS THE REASON THEY ARE NOT THERE.

OBVIOUSLY, DEMAND CONTINUES TO INVOLVE... EVOLVE.

THAT IS WHAT THE MASTER-PLANNING PROCESS IS ABOUT.

>> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILOR GREEN?

>> THANKS, MR. PRESIDENT. TONS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMPENCIVE PLAN. AND ALL THE GREAT IDEAS YOU PROBABLY HAVE FOR FUNDING SOURCES FOR CAPITAL IMPRO IMPROVEMENTS. WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT OVER THE NEXT EIGHT, NINE, TEN MONTHS.

I WON'T GET INTO THAT. YOU HAVE THE SLIDE ON USAGE.

HOW IS THAT USAGE TODAY COMPARED TO PRE-COVID? I MEAN, YOU HAD OTHER NUMBERS. HOW IS THAT COMPARED TO

PRE-COVID? >> USAGE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND WATER PARK IS RIGHT ABOUT WHERE WE WERE PRE-COVID.

OUR MEMBERSHIP AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS ABOUT 90% OF PRE-COVID. ANDLY TELL YOU PRE-COVID, WE WERE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS. OUR PRE-COVID NUMBERS WERE ALL-TIME HIGHS. 90% IS NOT BAD BECAUSE 90% IS HIGHER THAN MOST OF THE YEARS BEFORE 2019.

SO VERY, VERY PLEASED WITH HOW THAT PARTICIPATION RATES... OUR PROGRAM PARTICIPATION IS MAYBE DOWN EVER BIT SO SLIGHTLY.

NOT IN GROUP FITNESS. IT HAS REBOUNDED AGAIN.

PROBABLY 100% PRE-COVID NUMBERS. OUR OTHER RECREATION PROGRAMS, WE FOUND SOME CHANGES IN HOW PEOPLE ARE USING PROGRAMS, SO SOME OF THE THINGS WHERE THERE USED TO BE DEMAND, THE DEMAND HASN'T COMPLETELY RETURNED YET. THAT IS TRULY DRIVEN BY DEMAND, NOT US OFFERING... THERE IS SOME PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE CUT.

THERE ARE SOME PROGRAMS THAT THE DEMAND JUST HASN'T COMPLETELY COME BACK. WE ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO PRE-PANDEMIC NUMBERS. AND DEFINITELY IF YOU COMPARE US TO, LIKE, 2016, 2014, WE ARE ABOVE THOSE YEARS.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANKS.

NOW, TWO SLIDES BEFORE, THIS YOU HAD THE GROSS REVENUES PRE-COVID

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WE ARE CLOSING THE GAP ON THE GROSS REVENUES.

THEN I DROPPED DOWN. I LOOKED AT NET INCOME.

WE ARE DOING REALLY WELL ON NET INCOME.

COMPARED TO WHERE WE WERE. KIND OF DISCONNECT.

DID WE TAKE A LOT OF COST-CUTTING MEASURES? AND WE HAVEN'T COMPLETELY CUT THOSE OFF?

>> SO A COUPLE OF COMPONENTS THERE.

ONE. YEAH, WE DID SOME COST-CUTTING MEASURES. FOR EXAMPLE, IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING... WHILE WE WERE IN THE MIDST OF COVID, WE USED TO HAVE A FULL-TIME ASSISTANT SITE SUPERVISOR IN EACH OF OUR SCHOOL LOCATIONS. EACH OF THE 11 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. THOSE POSITIONS WERE INITIALLY CUT. WE HAVE BEEN SLOWLY BRINGING THOSE POSITIONS BACK. I THINK WE ARE ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN ASSISTANT SITE SUPERVISORS THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT BACK.

NOT ALL OF THOSE HAVE RETURNED. AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE HAD TO CAP ENROLLMENT IN THE BEFORE AND--SCHOOL PROGRAMS BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULTY IN FINDING PART-TIME STAFF.

THAT DRIVES MOST OF OUR EMPLOYMENT.

WE HAVE 68 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WHICH IS ABOUT TEN DOWN STILL...

A LITTLE UNDER TEN DOWN FROM PREPANDEMIC TIMES.

YOU KNOW, IDEALLY, WE NEED ABOUT 400.

AND WE ARE 350 PART-TIMERS RIGHT NOW.

PART OF THE REASON OUR NET IS SO GOOD IS THERE IS A NUMBER OF PART-TIME POSITIONS THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FILL.

IF WE WERE ABLE TO FILL THEM, IT WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE MILLION DOLLARS. I MEAN, IT WOULDN'T BE ALL THE WAY TO THE MILLION. IT WOULD BE MORE LIKE $1.4 AS

OPPOSED TO $1.8. >> THANKS.

THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTIONING.

ABOUT STAFFING. YOU ANSWERED THAT.

I SEE LOTS OF NEW FACES. >> YES.

>> YES. I WAS WONDERING.

BUT THANKS. >> ABSOLUTELY.

IF ANYONE IS LOOKING FOR A PART-TIME JOB, CARMEL-CLAYPARKS.COM. WE HAVE A FUND RETIRE PROGRAM GOING ON RIGHT NOW. THERE WAS UN-RETIRE.

THERE IS NO BETTER PLACES TO UNRETIRE IF YOU ARE RECENT LIMB RETIRED AND JUST WANT TO COME BACK.

TO PARKS AND RECREATION. YOU CAN FUN-RETIRE.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR? GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL REPORT.

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[12. OLD BUSINESS]

>> THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON NOW TO OLD BUSINESS. ITEM 12-A IS THE FIFTH READING OF ORDINANCE D-2657-22. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA AMENDING CHAPTER 2,ARTICLE 2, SECTION 25 OF THE CITY CODE.

SPOON SPONSORS ARE COUNCILORS FINKAM, NELSON, CAMPBELL, WORRELL. THIS REMAINS.

I'M TOSSING OUT THE DATE OF FEBRUARY 28 IN THIS ROOM AT 5:30. SO IF EACH OF THE COUNCILORS WOULD LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO MEET.

I WILL LET THE APPROPRIATE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AT THE MEETING KNOW ABOUT THAT. ITEM 12-B.

SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE Z-679-22.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA, AMENDING THE LEGACY PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. SPONSORS ARE COUNCILORS K RIDER AND AASEN. THIS RETURNS FROM LAND USE AND SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE. COUNCILOR CAMPBELL?

>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AGAIN, THIS IS COMING BACK WITH A 4-0 FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE.

AND SEVERAL COUNCILORS ALSO JOINED THE DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SEVERAL ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED DURING THE MEETING. PRIPRIOR PRIMARILY, CONCERNS THT WE DISCUSSED TRAFFIC CONCERNS. CONSTITUENTS HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT POTENTIAL INCREASED TRAFFIC, BUT THE PETITIONER EXPLAINED THERE WILL BE A 41% DECREASE IN TRAFFIC BY RIGHT OR OPPOSED TO WHAT COULD BE BUILT THERE.

WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL EFFECT ON SCHOOLS.

THE FACT THAT ENROLLMENT IS DECLINING BEGINNING WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. THIS PROJECT WON'T BE A BURDEN TO THE SCHOOLS. THIS IS CONSIDERED A NON-STANDARD PRODUCT, AND I ADMIT I WASN'T COMPLETELY ONBOARD WITH THIS AT THE BEGINNING.

COULDN'T REALLY WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE CONCEPT.

BUT THE PETITIONER DID A GREAT JOB MEETING WITH COUNCILORS, ADDRESSED ALL OF THE CONCERNS AND SAID YES TO EVERYTHING THAT IS WE ASKED FOR. THEREFORE, I MOVE THAT WE

APPROVE Z679-22. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. MOVED AND SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? REGARDING THIS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE. COWENS FINGAM?

>> I WANT TO THANK PETITIONER AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED.

BECAUSE WE HAD TONS OF MEETINGS ,AND THE FIRST COUPLE WEREN'T

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A COUPLE WERE BORDER ON COMBATIVE A COUPLE OF TIMES.

THANK YOU FOR THE PETITIONER AND SOME OF THE COUNCILOR THAT IS CAME OUT AS WELL. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALWAYS HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO LISTEN TO THE CONSTITUENTS, EVEN WHEN IT MAY NOT FEEL SUPER GOOD FOR ANYBODY INVOLVED. THIS PROJECT EVOLVED GREATLY FROM START TO NOW. AND LAURA INDICATED THE PETITIONER HAS DONE A FABULOUS JOB, PRETTY MUCH SAYING YES TO ALMOST EVERYTHING. TET WE ARER ARCHITECTURE.

BETTER LAYOUT. BETTER USE OF COMMERCIAL SPACE.

WWE WILL HAVE A WONDERFUL MI MIDTOWN-ESQUE AREA.

HOPEFULLY, ON THE CORNER THERE WHEN IT IS BUILT.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE DUE TO THE INVESTMENT ON THE PETITIONER'S PART, ON DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT TRAFFIC INCREASE WILL BE MINIMAL. SCHOOLS WON'T BE IMPACTED.

THEY MADE AN INVESTMENT IN RAISED CROSSWALKS THROUGH THE AREA. THEN THE CITY IS MATCHING THAT ALSO TO HELP MAKE SURE WE ARE REALLY SAFE AROUND THAT PLAY SCHOOL AREA. THAT IS THE MOST CONCERN.

OF THE HOA'S INVOLVED, THERE WERE TWO THAT I COULD NOT GET PAST INTO A POSITIVE AREA. THESE TWO ARE MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED. THTHEIR PRIMARY CONCERNS... MANY OF THEIR CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED.

THE TWO THAT COULD NOT BE ADDRESSED WERE THE USE, THAT THIS IS A FOR BUILD TO RENT PROJECT.

THEY WANTED A REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF UNITS AND INCREASE IN COMMERCIAL SPACE. BECAUSE OF THE TWO HOA'S BEING STRONGLY OPPOSED, I'M A NO ON THIS PROJECT.

I WANT TO THANK THE PETITIONER FOR EVERYTHING THEY DID.

BECAUSE IF THIS GOES THROUGH, I DO BELIEVE THIS IS A QUALITY

PROJECT. >> COUNCILOR, DO YOU KNOW... I WAS OUT OF THE COUNTRY WHEN THE LAND USE MET.

IS THERE... HOW DID THEY HANDLE THE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE

DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS? >> I'M NOT ON LAND USE COMMITTEE. THAT WOULD BE LAURA.

>> LAURA, DO YOU REMEMBER HOW THAT WAS HANDLED?

>> I WILL DEFER TO THE PETITIONER.

>> SPECIFICALLY, REGARDING VEHICULAR CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN

THIS? >> YEAH.

>> AND THE ADJACENT SITES. THERE ARE MULTIPLE CONNECTIONS THROUGH THE EXISTING ROADWAY NETWORK AS WELL AS AN ADDITIONAL CUT ON 146TH STREET. ALL THE STREETS THAT CONNECT THAT ARE EXTENDED TODAY INTO THE SITE WILL CONNECT THROUGH AND RUN THROUGH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

>> OKAY. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR AASEN?

>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANTED TO REITERATE THANKS TO THE PETITIONER FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DID.

BOTH WITH NEIGHBORS BUT ALSO TALKING WITH THE PLAN COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL. IT HAS BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH YOU. I DO WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS. MY DAUGHTER GOES TO THAT PLAY SCHOOL RIGHT THERE. EVEN WITHOUT THIS PROJECT, IT IS ALREADY... YOU HAVE UNAWARE PARENTS RUSHING THEIR WAY TO WORK. KIDS CROSSING THE STREET.

PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH THE AREA. AND THEN NOW WE ARE GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTING RIGHT ON TOP OF THAT.

THANK YOU FOR THE RAISED CROSSWALKS.

I WOULD REITERATE WHAT I SAID AT LAND USE.

COMMITTEE DRIVE IS GREAT. MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE BOULEVARD TOO RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PLAY SCHOOL WITH THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING RIGHT THERE.

I THINK IT IS A GREAT PROJECT. AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU DID TO EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS PROJECT COMPARED TO WHAT WAS ALREADY AVAILABLE TO DO BY RIGHT IF WE DID NOTHING. AND I THINK THAT EVERYTHING IS MOSTLY EQUAL, IF NOT APPROVED... IMPROVED WITH THIS PROJECT COMPARED TO WHAT WAS AVAILABLE BY RIGHT.

THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL CALL FOR THE QUESTION. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THIS MOTION CARRIES.

8-1. OKAY.

THAT MOTION PASSES. 8-1.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU TO THE PETITIONER AND

[13. PUBLIC HEARINGS]

I'M GOING TO READ IN THE FIRST READINGS ON THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE ARE GOING TO GET AN INTRODUCTION OF. I HAVE ASSIGNED ALL OF THOSE.

WE WILL GET THE PRESENTATION, TAKE QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL, THEN

[01:05:03]

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO INTRODUCE? >> MOVE TO INTRODUCE.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

WHO WILL... WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ THE... COUNCILOR, PLEASE

READ THE SYNOPSIS. >> AN ORDINANCE CHANGING THE ZONES OF APPROXIMATELY 14.6 # ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 10402 NORTH COLLEGE AVENUE FROM THE R-2 DISTRICT AND THE B-1 DISTRICT TO B-3 DISTRICT. CLASSIFICATION, REMOVAL OF 2.4 ACRES FROM THE BUSINESS DISTRICT SUB-AREA OF THE OVERLAY

DISTRICT. >> WHO WILL BE MAKING THE

PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE? >> YEAH.

I CAN GO. MIKE.

I THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON FROM DOC HERE.

OR YEAH. GO AHEAD.

ALL RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT.

IF YOU PLEASE, TELL US WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOUR RELATIONSHIP

TO THIS PROJECT IS, PLEASE. >> YES.

GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, THE LAW OFFICE OF CHURCH, CHURCH AND ANTRIM. THE HUGHES FAMILY.

KEVIN AND MARY BETH AND THEIR DAUGHTERS ROSE AND EMMA.

AND KATHLEEN BOWS FROM OUR FIRM AS WELL.

>> VERY GOOD. GIVE US THE OVERVIEW OF THE REQUEST. AND THEN WE WILL GET INTO

QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. >> SURE.

I'M SURE YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH ROSIE'S GARDENS.

IT WAS STARTED BY KEVIN AND MARY BETH BACK IN 1982.

SEEKING APPROVAL FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING.

FOR APPROXIMATELY 14 ACRES. IT SITS ON A TOE AL OF 15 ACRES.

THERE IS ONE PARCEL THAT IS ALREADY ZONED B-3.

THAT IS WHERE THE EXISTING STORE IS.

THERE ARE TWO OTHER PARCELS THAT ARE ZONED B-1.

THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY IS ZONED H-1.

THE IDEA IS-TO-TO GET THE ENTIRE PROPERTY CONSOLIDATED UNDER ONE ZONING DISTRICT. BEFORE THE PLAN COMMISSION ON DECEMBER 13, WE WERE IN FRONT OF THE COMMERCIAL COMMITTEE LAST MONO. WE HAVE MODIFIED OUR ORIGINAL PETITION REGARDING THE WITHDRAWAL FROM THE HOME PLACE OVERLAY DISTRICT. THE PURPOSE BEHIND THE ZONING REQUEST IS AN EXPANSION PROPOSAL.

WE HAVE PLANS TO EXPAND THE EXISTING PARKING AS WE NEED...

WE ARE IN NEED OF A MORE ON-SITE PARKING.

WE HAVE PLANNED TO REPLACE THE EXISTING STORE WITH A LARGER ONE. WE HAVE SOME DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE NEEDED.

WE WILL BE ADDING... EXCUSE ME. DRY DETENTION AND A COUPLE NEW STORAGE BUILDINGS. SOME LANDSCAPING BUFFERING TO THE SOUTH. THERE WILL BE SOME EXISTING DRIVE CUTS. THEY WILL BE ELIMINATED.

AND I BELIEVE ONE ADDED. KEVIN HAS BEEN COORDINATING THIS WITH THE ENGINEER OVERSEEING THE ONGOING COLLEGE AVENUE PROJECT.

WE DO BELIEVE THAT KEEPING THE OVERLAY IN PLACE OFFERS THE BEST LONG-TERM PROTECTION FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.

CERTAINLY ADDRESSES ONE AREA OF CONCERN THAT THE CITY HAD.

IT WILL LEAVE US WITH THE NEED TO SEEK A COUPLE OF VARIANCES FROM THE ZONING... FROM THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.

F SPECIFICALLY FOR THE OUTDOOR DISPLAYS AND THE PARKING LOT SETBACK. AS WE PROGRESS WITH THE DETAILS OF OUR EXPANSION PLANS, WE WILL BE FILING THESE.

WE HAVE RECEIVED MANY SUPPORTIVE COMMENTS FROM NEIGHBORS AND THE PLAN COMMISSION. FROM STAFF.

WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL OF THOSE.

THIS LOCATION HAS BEEN HOME TO ROSIE'S FOR MANY YEARS NOW.

WE ARE ANXIOUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PLANS.

WHICH WE BELIEVE WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> YEAH. VERY GOOD.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, FOR ANYONE THAT MAY BE WATCHING THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHERE ROSIE'S PLACE IS, COULD YOU GIVE THE ADDRESS OR DESCRIPTION? MIGHT AS WELL MAKE IT A COMMERCIAL WHILE YOU ARE AT IT. NO.

I'M JUST KIDDING. GIVE THE LOCATION.

>> OH. 10402 NORTH COLLEGE AVENUE.

>> YUP. ALL RIGHT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARING? COUNCILOR AASEN IN.

>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANTED TO NOTE THAT IF THE...

AT THE PLAN COMMISSION LEVEL, THIS WAS PRETTY NONCONTROVERSIAL. NEIGHBORS SPOKE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. I WILL ADD THAT ROSIE'S HAS BEEN A REALLY GOOD COMMUNITY NEIGHBOR TO THE AREA AND WE ARE EXCITED

[01:10:01]

THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. FY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. LET'S MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AT 7:12. ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK

EITHER FOR OR AGAINST. >> YOU COULD PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE PODIUM. AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. I SEE NO MOVEMENT.

THEREFORE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AT 0 SECONDS LATER. ... 30 SECONDS LATER.

DO I HAVE ANY ACTION OR A MOTION? DOES COUNCIL WANT THIS TO GO TO COMMITTEE?

OR IS THERE... >> I WOULD MOVE WE SUSPEND THE

RULES AND ACT ON THIS EVENING? >> SECOND.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO SUSPEND THE RULES WHICH MEANS WE WOULD THEN TAKE ACTION. IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND CAST OUR VOTES FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT.

THAT IS UNANIMOUS. >> MR. PRESIDENT?

>> ONE MOMENT. COUNCILOR RIDER.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE, DOES THE DEPARTMENT HAVE ANY COMMENTS? SOUNDS LIKE EVERYTHING WAS WELL-RECEIVED.

EVERYTHING WAS POSITIVE. ANYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW BEFORE

WE CAST THIS VOTE? >> THANK YOU.

DIRECT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES.

SO THIS IS STEP ONE OF THE OVERALL EFFORT, AND SO THEY WILL BE BACK BEFORE PLAN COMMISSION BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL AND ADLS APPROVAL. THE TRIP TO THE BZA.

THERE WILL BE AMPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT AND FOR THE REVIEW AND FINE-TUNING OF THE PROJECT.

>> VERY GOOD. >> IT WAS VERY WELL-RECEIVED.

UNANIMOUS VOTE TO SEND IT HERE. AND YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALL

THRILLED. >> OKAY.

>> WITH THE CLEANUP HERE. >> THAT IS GREAT TO HEAR.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I

OPEN IT UP TO A MOTION? >> ALL RIGHT.

MR. PRESIDENT? >> COUNCILOR RIDER.

>> ROSIE'S IS... YOU ARE HOME-GROWN.

THIS IS WHAT WE LIKE TO SEE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

LIKE I TOLD YOU, YOU ARE A HOBBY FOR MY MOTHER-IN-LAW.

MOVE TO APPROVE. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY.

IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT IS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM B, FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D. 2662-23.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING AN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS FROM THE OPERATING BALANCE OF THE GENERAL FUND TO THE 2023 DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES BUDGET.

SPONSORS ARE COUNCILORS AASEN, FINKAM, AND RIDER.

COUNCILOR AASEN IN. >> MOVE TO INTRODUCE.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

THIS ORDINANCE APPROPRIATES FUNDS RECEIVED FROM THE... FOR THE LIEN PAYMENTS DEPOSITED TO THE GENERAL FUND TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES BUDGET.

>> ALL RIGHT. WILL WE BE RECEIVING A PRESENTATION ON THIS FROM... I SEE HIM GETTING UP.

>> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON. THIS THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT THE COUNCIL TYPICALLY PASSES A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR.

THIS IS MONEY RECEIVED MOSTLY FROM LIENS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES. YOU RECEIVE THE MONEY FROM HAMILTON COUNTY. THIS GETS DEPOSITED INTO THE GENERAL FUND. THIS MONEY CAN BE SPENT ON FURTHER CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

WE WILL NOW OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:16.

ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK, EITHER FOR OUR AGAINST THIS ORDINANCE, PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE PODIUM.

SEEING NONE, I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING 20 SECONDS LATER.

>> MR. PRESIDENT? >> MOVE AND SECONDED TO SUSPEND.

ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

IS THERE A MOTION? >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY. MOVED AND SECONDED.

PLEASE VOTE. THAT IS UNANIMOUS.

[14. NEW BUSINESS]

FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D. 2663-23.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA AMENDING SECTION 8-37 OF THE CARMEL CITY CODE.

SPONSORS ARE COUNCILORS AASEN, FINKAM, AND RIDER.

>> MOVE TO INTRODUCE. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD AND READ THE SYNOPSIS,

[01:15:03]

PLEASE, COUNCILOR. >> THIS ESTABLISHES A 15 #-MINUTE LOADING ZONE ON VETERAN'S WAY IN FRONT OF THE NEW CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS.

>> I SEE THE CHIEF MAKING HIS WAY TO THE PODIUM TO PRESENT.

>> HI. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL BE MOVING INTO ITS NEW HEADQUARTERS LOCATED AT 210 VETERANS WAY.

WHICH FOR PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE, IS LOCATED JUST ON THE BACK SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE OF THE INDIANA DESIGN CENTER. THAT IS THE ORIGINAL HOME OF THE ORIGINAL FIRE STATION THAT WAS BUILT IN 1960 BY THE VOLUNTEERS.

SO THAT IS SACRED GROUND FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS AND FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO WE ARE EXCITE ABOUT MOVING BACK INTO THIS LOCATION. IT IS REASON THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS OUT IN FRONT OF THE NEW BUILDING IS PART OF THIS BUILDING ON THE FIRST FLOOR IS GOING TO BE A SAFE HOUSE.

STAY ALIVE FAMILY EDUCATION IS THE ACRONYM.

IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH SURVIVE ALIVE IN THE PAST.

THAT IS WHAT WE CALLED OUR EDUCATION PROGRAM.

WE FOUND OUT THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY A TRADEMARK.

WE DECIDED TO DO OUR OWN THING HERE RATHER THAN INFRINGE UPON THAT. SO PART OF THIS IS, WE PARTNERED WITH THE SCHOOLS TO BRING THE CHILDREN TO US.

IT WILL BE A PERMANENT LEARNING FACILITY FOR THE KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT AREA OUT IN FRONT OF THIS BUILDING TO SERVE AS A BUS-LOAFDING AND UNLOADING ZONE OUT IN FRONT. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION. >> MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND

ACT ON THIS THIS EVENING. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. THAT CARRIES.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? >> PLEASE VOTE.

WHAT IS THE PROJECTED MOVE-IN DATE? (INAUDIBLE) FURNITURE IS ON ORDER RIGHT NOW.

IT SHOULD START ARRIVING AT THE BEGINNING OF MARCH.

AND SO I HOPE THAT WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION IN THE NEW BUILDING LATE MARCH. THE MUSEUM AND... WHICH IS ALSO GOING TO BE LOCATED ON THE FIRST FLOOR, AND THE SAFE HOUSE WILL BE... IT IS GOING TO TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS FOR US TO GET INTO THE BUILDING FOR. THAT WE HOPE THIS SUMMER TO HAVE A GRAND OPENING AND A COMMUNITY EVENT THERE AND LOTS OF TOURS OF THE BUILDING. WE ARE VERY EXCITED.

THE ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING FOR THE END OF MARCH FOR US TO ACTUALLY MOVE INTO THE BUILDING. VERY EXCITING.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU.

>> USE THAT LOADING ZONE WISELY. >> WE WILL DO SO.

THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 14-B. FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA.

AN INCREASE FOR THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, MEDICAL EMERGENCY FEES.

LOOKING TO COUNCILOR CAMPBELL. >> MOVE TO INTRODUCE.

>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.

THIS APPROVES AN $8.7% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES FEES CHARGED BY THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT IN 2023. AND THE CHIEF IS AT THE PODIUM.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT DON'T KNOW, THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT AND FIREFIGHTERS RUN OUR AMBULANCE TRANSPORT SERVICE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE RESPOND ON APPROXIMATELY 6,500 TO 7 THOWF RUNS PER YEAR.

THE ACTUAL BILL, IT IS A USER FEE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY ARE TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL BY THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THOSE FUNDS COME IN AND THEY GO INTO A NONREVERTING FUND THAT IS OVERSEEN BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THAT FUND HAS VERY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ON WHAT IT CAN BE USED FOR.

IN A GENERAL OVERVIEW, TRAINING COSTS FOR THE DEPARTMENT, SAFETY EQUIPMENT. SO SELF-CONTAINED BRING APPARATUS. THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE GOING TO BE PURCHASING HERE IN THE NEXT YEAR.

YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT US TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THE BUDGET.

AND THEN FIRE EQUIPMENT ALSO. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT'S TAKING PLACE HERE, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, SOME SUPPLIERS ARE SEEING INCREASES OF 15%. AND SO YOU ADD 15%EN TO ON TO A FIRE TRUCK OR LADDER TRUCK OR A MILLION DOLLARS FOR SEBA'S FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS, THAT IS A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY.

THAT MONEY IS COMING OUT OF THE AMBULANCE FUND.

I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO ASK FOR AN 8.75% INCREASE TO THE ACTUAL COSTS. THE USER FEE THAT IS PAID FOR AMBULANCE TRANSPORT. THAT NUMBER DOES SOUND BIG.

[01:20:02]

LAST YEAR I WAS HERE BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AS WELL, ASKING FOR 5.1%. THAT WAS THE INCREASE FOR MEDICARE AND MEDICAID AS WELL. MISOR THECALLY, THIS COUNCIL, THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL HAD BUILT IN A 3% COST OF LIVING ANNUAL PERCENTAGE INCREASE SO THAT THE FIRE CHIEF DIDN'T COME BEFORE YOU. AND IT WAS BUILT INTO THE SYSTEM. WE ARE IN UNPRECEDENTED TIMES.

THAT IS HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE 8.75% INCREASE.

I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR IN THE WAY OF TIMING?

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT, PLEASE? >> I WOULD ASK THAT THIS COUNCIL THIS EVENING ACT UPON THIS OR CONSIDER ACTING UPON THIS.

WE HAVE NOT. WE HAVE BEEN INTENTIONAL ABOUT NOT SENDING OUT BILLS SINCE JANUARY 1 OF 2023.

SO IF SOMEONE WAS TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL ON JANUARY 1, THEY ARE PAYING THE SAME AMOUNT AS SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE TRANSPORTED ON MARCH 1. SO OUR AMBULANCE BILLING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH THE HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE THIS 8.75% THIS EVENING.

SO WE WILL GO BACK TO JANUARY 1, AN EVERYONE WHO IS TRANSPORTED IN 2023 WILL PAY THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHIEF.

>> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILOR HANNON?

>> I WANT TO SAY YEAH. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING WHERE THE NUMBERS COME. FROM I DO REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION LAST YEAR AS WELL AS YOU SAID.

UNPRECEDENTED TIMES. IT IS CLEARLY INDEXED TO MEDICARE AND MEDICAID. I THINKS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILOR NELSON? >> MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND

VOTE ON THIS THIS EVENING? >> SECOND.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR FINKAM?

>> THIS QUESTION IS FOR JOHN REALLY.

WE DON'T NEED TO ACTUALLY SPECIFICALLY STATE THIS IS RETROK AIVE TO JANUARY 1? IT SAYS IN 2023.

IN THE WORDS. I WANT TO ASK THAT QUESTION.

THIS WILL BE DATED LATER? >> THANK YOU.

NO. I THINK LANGUAGE IS SUFFICIENT.

IT COVERS ALL OF 2023. >> OKAY.

I READ THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

RIGHT? SO WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH THIS FOR NOTHING. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. PLEASE VOTE.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> THAT CARRIES.

YUP. GO AHEAD.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND IN. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. THAT IS UNANIMOUS.

OKAY. THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

LET'S MOVE ON TO RESOLUTION CC02062301.

A RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA APPROVING CERTAIN MATTERS IN CONNECTION WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE 11TH PENN REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

WE WILL CALL THE 11TH AND PENN.

>> MOVE TO INTRODUCE. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. COUNCILOR RIDER?

>> RESOLUTION APPROVES A RESOLUTION OF THE CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION ESTABLISHING THE 111TH-PENN REDEVELOPMENT AREA INCLUDING A PLAN FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

AND TWO, A RELATED CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION RESOLUTION.

>> ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE EVERYBODY RECEIVED KIND OF AN EMAIL DESCRIPTION FROM DIRECTOR... FROM THE DIRECTOR. IF THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, NOW IS THE TIME. DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT ON THIS

ONE? >> I WOULD LIKE TO, COUNCILOR.

>> OKAY, SURE. >> IN CASE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND VOTE ON THESE ITEMS TONIGHT...

>> WE WILL. >> RESOLUTION, WE WILL.

THEY WILL BE VOTED ON TONIGHT. >> .

>> OKAY. I WANTED TO... I'M SORRY.

VOTE ON THEM TONIGHT INSTEAD OF POTENTIALLY SENDING THEM TO COMMITTEE. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT FOR ANYBODY WATCHING. IF THIS IS NEW TO SOMEBODY.

AND JUST FOR A SECOND, EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TIF BOND VOTES AND ALLOCATION AREA VOTES.

>> YEAH. THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.

GO AHEAD. >> SO GENERALLY, WHEN TIF PROJECTS ARE BROUGHT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL VOTES ON TWO SEPARATE MATTERS. ONE IS A TIF BOND, ALLOWING THE BOND TO OCCUR. IN ALL OF THESE CASES, THESE ARE OBVIOUSLY BONDS THAT ARE DEVELOPER BONDS WHERE THE CITY IS NOT ON THE HOOK. TIF BONDS ARE... WHEN THOSE PROJECTS ARE BROUGHT, THAT IS USUALLY THE ONE THAT COMES WITH GREAT FANFARE. THEY ARE ALWAYS SENT TO COMMITTEE. THEY ARE ALWAYS DISECONDED AT ECONOMY TEE, SOMETIMES THROUGH MULTIPLE COMMITTEE VOTES.

THAT IS REALLY THE BIG POLITICAL QUESTION.

[01:25:02]

I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT USUALLY MAKES THE NEWS.

AND THERE IS A LOT OF CONVERSATION THAT GOES ON WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH TIF VOTES. AS PART OF THE TIF PROCESS, THE STATE STATUTE LAYS OUT THE ACTUAL CREATION OF THE ALLOCATION AREAS OVER THE LAND THAT WOULD THEN FUND THE TIF BOND. IF THERE IS A BOND.

THESE ARE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE.

IT IS PART OF A CUMBERSOME PROCESS LAID OUT BY STATUTE.

THAT REQUIRES A REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION VOTE.

PLANNED COMMISSION VOTE. CITY COUNCIL VOTE.

AND THEN BACK TO A CONFIRMTORY RESOLUTION.

THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ALL PURSUANT TO STATE STATUTE.

THIS PROCESS USUALLY TAKES MONTHS.

DURING THIS PROCESS, A DEVELOPER CAN NOT TRANSFER LAND, REPLAT, OR ELSE IT MESSES UP THE WHOLE PROCESS.

AND USUALLY, COUNCIL VOTES ON THESE WITHOUT SENDING THEM TO COMMITTEE. IF THAT IS... IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO DO THAT HERE, I JUST DON'T WANT ANYBODY THINKING THAT THIS IS... NONE OF THIS HAS BEEN THOUGHT OUT.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL TAKES A LONG TIME TO CONSIDER.

SO WITH THAT, THE FIRST AREA I IS... THIS IS A CREATION OF REDEVELOPMENT AREA. THIS IS THE 111TH AND PENN PROJECT. THAT WAS THE $700 MILLION INVESTMENT THAT CREATED MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL AND FOR-SALE RESIDENTIAL. WE WILL COME BACK LATER THIS YEAR AND CREATE SPECIFIC ALLOCATION AREAS THAT MATCH FAIRING OF CONSTRUCTION ON THIS PROJECT.

BUT THIS IS THE CREATION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

OTHER THAN SENDING A GENERAL DESCRIPTION I WANT TO NOTE THAT BRUCE DONALDSON FROM THE... FROM BARNES & THORNBURG IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU HAVE THE DETAILS ON THIS? IS YOUR PLAN TO PUT DETAILS OF THESE KIND OF PROJECTS AT THIS STAGE ON CHOOSE CARMEL INDIANA?

>> PERFECT. THIS PROJECT ITSELF IS NOT ON CHOOSE CARMEL, INDIANA JUST YET. I WANT TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY ONE MORE TIME FOR ANYBODY WATCHING IF THEY WANT TO LEARN GENERALLY ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

GO TO CHOOSECARMELIN.COM. YOU CAN GENERALLY LEARN ABOUT THESE PROJECTS. WE WANTED THE DEVELOPER TO GET

FURTHER INTO ARCHITECTURE. >> THE REASON I ASK, IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY, THIS IS A GREAT TOOL.

IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO ARE... I GOT AN EMAIL ABOUT IT THIS AFTERNOON.

SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU AS SOON AS IT IS APPROPRIATE, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT, TO BE ABLE TO SEND SOMEONE TO CHOOSE CARMELIN AND THEY CAN GET THE DETAILS.

PLEASE DO THAT. >> I'LL MAKE SURE TO DO THAT

THIS WEEK, COUNCILOR. >> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR

ON THIS? >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND? OH. OKAY.

LET'S GET A SECOND. THEN WE WILL DO FURTHER DISCUSSION. A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. NOW, COUNCILOR HANNON?

>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SO DIRECTOR, JUST WITH THE CREATION OF THE ASTRICT, AT WHAS START TO FLOW INTO THE TIF DISTRICT? SO TYPICALLY, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS AN ALLOCATION DISTRICT, UNLESS CRC HAS PURCHASED A PROPERTY DURING ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT PERIOD, BASE TAX STILL FLOWS TO THE COFFERS, RIGHT? SO AGAIN, THE TIMING OF THE... DOES NOT IMMEDIATELY CHANGE TAX FLOW TO THE GENERAL FUND, CORRECT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. I BELIEVE TAXES START FLOWING AFTER A CONFIRMTORY RESOLUTION IS CREATED.

AND AGAIN, TAXES ARE PAID TWICE A YEAR.

AFTER IT GOES THROUGH THE FOUR-STEP PROCESS, THEN THERE IS... AFTER THE RESOLUTION, THEN THE NEXT HALF A YEAR CYCLE WHEN TAXES ARE PAID, THAT IS WHEN IT WOULD BEGIN.

>> OKAY. COUNCILOR GREEN?

>> HENRY, COULD YOU KIND OF VERY BRIEFERLY EXPLAIN... SEVERAL OF US VOTING AGAINST THE BOND ORIGINALLY.

WHAT IS THE CONSEQUENCE OF VOTING AGAINST A RESOLUTION? LIKE YOU SAID, IT IS MORE OF A FORMALITY.

A PROCESS. >> I WOULD SAY THAT THE CENTRAL

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HERE ON THIS SPECIFIC FRONT, THEY ONLY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AFTER THE TIF BOND WAS APPROVED. OFTENTIMES, THAT REALLY GETS PAST THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS. STARTS THE PROCESS IN THE BEGINNING. SO THIS... I THINK, THE EFFECTS OF THIS AS A CITY, SAYING WE SUPPORT THIS PROJECT ONE MOMENT AND PULLING BACK THE MECHANISM FOR IT TO BE EFFECTUATED WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC POTENTIALLY. I MEAN, I THINK THE CITY OF CARMEL HAS ALWAYS BEEN A VERY EFFICIENTLY RUN GOVERNMENT, AND IT WOULD JUST BE... I THINK IT WOULD SIGNAL TO DEVELOPERS NOT TO TRUST THE CITY'S PROCESS. IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT WERE TO OCCUR. THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION.

AND I JUST... ONE PERSON'S THOUGHT.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. ARE THERE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION CC-02062301. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

PLEASE VOTE. >> OKAY.

THAT PASSES 8-1. THAT IS APPROVED.

ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON NOW TO RESOLUTION CC-02062302. RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA, APPROVING CERTAIN MATTERS IN CONNECTION WITH THE OLD MERIDIEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA.

THE MAIN ALLOCATION AREA. SPONSORS ARE COUNCILORS RIDER

AND WONDERFUL. >> MOVE TO INTRODUCE.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY.

THAT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

PLEASE READ THE SYNOPSIS. >> RESOLUTION APPROVES A RESOLUTION OF THE CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION CREATING NEW ERS AND MAIN ALLOCATION AREA WITHIN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA, INCLUDING A PLAN SUPPLEMENT AND RELATED CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION RESOLUTION.

>> ALL RIGHT. DIRECTOR?

>> THIS PROJECT THAT COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THE TIF BOND ON, IT IS A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT. THERE ARE STACKED FOR-SALE FLATS THAT LINE MAIN STREET. THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC PLAZA IN

THE CENTER. >> COUNCIL REMEMBERS, THERE WAS A PREVIOUS ALLEY... I'M SORRY. A RIGHT OF BAY... A RIGHT OF ALLOCATION. IT WILL JOIN THE ALLOCATION AREA AND JOIN THE PROJECT. AT THE CORNER THERE AT THE ROUND-ABOUT. THAT WAS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. OKAY.

WE HAVE 9-0. THAT IS APPROVED.

RESOLUTION CC-02062303, RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA APPROVING MATTERS.

THIS IS THIRD AVENUE, AT&T ALLOCATION AREA.

SPONSORS ARE COUNCILORS WORRELL AND RIDER.

>> MOVE TO INTRODUCE. >> OKAY.

AND THE SYNOPSIS, PLEASE. >> RESOLUTION APPROVES A RESOLUTION OF THE CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION APPROVING AN EXPANSION TO THE OLDTOWN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA AND CREATING A NEW THIRD AVENUE AT&T ALLOCATION AREA WITHIN THE EXPANSION AREA, INCLUDING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUPPLEMENT AND A RELATED CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION

RESOLUTION. >> ALL RIGHT.

TAKE IT AWAY. >> THIS IS THE $133 MILLION INVESTMENT THAT INCLUDES A NEW BUCKINGHAM MULTIFAMILY PROJECT AND AN 80,000-SQUARE-FOOT EXPANSION OF MERCHANTS BANK.

I DID WANT TO CORRECT... NOT CORRECT BUT JUST ELABORATE MORE FOR THE RECORD THAT THE RESOLUTION READS AS AN EXPANSION

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THERE IS AN... COUNCILOR HANNON AND I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THIS EARLIER TODAY. I HOPE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THE OLDTOWN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA PRETTY MUCH BLANKETS ALL OF MAIN STREET. AND OUR MIDTOWN AREA... BUT REALLY, THE ONLY THING THAT IS TRULY BEING CREATED IS THE SPECIFIC ALLOCATION AREA. YOU WILL ALSO NOTE THAT EVEN THOUGH THE PROJECT BROUGHT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ORIGINALLY HAD THOSE TWO RESIDENTIAL LOTS, THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE CREATION OF THIS ALLOCATION AREA TODAY.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

COUNCILOR? >> YEAH.

TO ADD ON WHAT THE DIRECTOR SAID.

THE LANGUAGE I THOUGHT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING.

THE CONCERN WAS THAT SOMEHOW YOU ARE GOING TO EXPAND WHAT WAS ALREADY PRESENTED. IN FACT, YOU HAVE PULLED IT BACK BECAUSE I THINK BZA VOTED AGAINST THE LOT SPLITS.

WHAT WAS IT THAT... >> THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT IS CORRECT. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> YEAH.

IT WAS A GOOD QUESTION, COUNCILOR HANNON, TODAY.

ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION?

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

THAT IS... ONE MORE TO GO. COUNCILOR FINKAM DO YOU WANT TO CAST YOUR VOTE OR... LET'S GO AHEAD.

SINCE YOU ARE THERE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THAT IS 8-1.

THAT MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE NOW MOVING TO RESOLUTION CC-02062304.

RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA APPROVING CERTAIN MATTERS IN CONNECTION WITH THE INTEGRATED 126TH STREET CORRIDOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA.

CROSSING ONE ALLOCATION AREA AND CROSSING TWO ALLOCATION AREAS.

SPONSORS ARE COUNCILORS WORRELL AND RIDER.

>> MOVE TO INTRODUCE. >> OKAY.

SYNOPSIS. >> A RESOLUTION OF THE CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION CREATING NEW CROSSING ONE ALLOCATION AREA AND NEW CROSSING TWO ALLOCATION AREA WITHIN THE INTEGRATED 126TH STREET CORRIDOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA, INCLUDING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUPPLEENT AND A RELATED CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION RESOLUTION.

>> ALL RIGHT. DIRECTOR?

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. THIS IS THE PUBLIC TRAINING CENTER/HEADQUARTERS ALLOCATION AREA BEING CREATED.

COUNCIL HAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THIS PROJECT.

IT INCLUDES 1,900 JOBS AS PARTS OF THIS MOVE OF REPUBLIC TO CARMEL FROM INDIANAPOLIS AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

>> ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION?

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY CONCERNS IN ALL RIGHT. PLEASE VOTE.

THAT IS 9-0. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO RESOLUTION CC-062305. A RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA APPROVING CERTAIN MATTERS IN CONNECTION WITH THE NORTH ILLINOIS STREET ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA. BRIDGES TWO ALLOCATION AREA.

RIDER AND WORRELL. >> MOVE TO INTRODUCE.

>> OKAY. SYNOPSIS?

>> RESOLUTION APPROVES THE RESOLUTION OF THE CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION CREATING NEW BRIDGES TO ALLOCATION AREA, INCLUDING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUPPLEMENT AND RELATED PLAN COMMISSION RESOLUTION.

>> ALL RIGHT. DIRECTOR?

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT DOES NOT HAVE A TIF BOND AT THIS POINT. SOMETIMES THESE AREAS ARE CREATED AT THE SAME TIME THAT A BOND IS BROUGHT.

SOMETIMES THEY ARE DONE WAY AFTER A TIF BOND IS BROUGHT.

SOMETIMES BEFORE. JUST STRATEGICALLY.

ONE OF THE THINGS BEING NEGOTIATED HERE IS THE TIF WOULD FUND A NEW... A $400,000 ROUNDABOUT BUILT IN THE MIDDLE THERE. BETWEEN THE TWO ROUNDABOUTS ON 111TH STREET. THERE IS NOT A TIF BOND AT THIS

TIME. >> IS THIS MEDICAL?

NO? >> THIS IS... OH, YES.

YUP. THERE IS A MEDICAL OFFICE ON THE

WEST SIDE OF THIS PROJECT. >> OKAY.

COUNCILOR? >> SO WAS BRIDGES ONE A TIF OR

NOT? >> YES.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

THIS ONE IS 8-1. SO THAT PASSES.

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO RESOLUTION CC-02062306.

A RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA APPROVING CERTAIN MATTERS IN CONNECTION WITH THE

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FRANCISCAN NORTH ALLOCATION AREA.

SPONSORS ARE COUNCILORS WORRELL AND RIDER.

>> MOVE TO INTRODUCE. >> SECOND.

>> SYNOPSIS, PLEASE. >> RESOLUTION APPROVES A RESOLUTION OF THE CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION APPROVING AN EXPANSION TO THE NORTH ILLINOIS STREET ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA CREATING A NEW FRANCISCAN NORTH ALLOCATION AREA INCLUDING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUPPLEMENT AND A RELATED CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION RESOLUTION.

ANYBODY ELSE FEEL LIKE GROUNDHOG DAY?

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. THIS IS AN EXPANSION OF THE

FRANCISCAN ALLOCATION AREA. >> YOU WILL REMEMBER, THERE WAS A FRANCISCAN HOSPITAL THAT WAS BUILT SOUTH OF THIS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEGOTIATED IN THAT PROJECT AGREEMENT WAS THAT THAT GARAGE WAS PROBABLY OVERBUILT BY ABOUT 200 SPACES. KNOWING THAT IT WOULD ALSO PARK AT THE USE TO THE NORTH. WHEN IT WOULD MAKE SENSE, WE WOULD BRING IN THE FURTHER ALLOCATION AREA.

THERE IS NOT A TIF BOND REQUEST AT THIS TIME.

THE CREATION OF THIS AREA WAS CONTEMPLATED BACK IN THE BEGINNING WHEN THE FIRST FRANCISCAN HOSPITAL AREA WAS

FIRST CREATED. >> ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH.

COUNCILOR CAMPBELL? >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

ABOUT THE TIMING. WHY IS ALL OF THIS HITTING TONIGHT? IT IS A LOT FOR... ON THE AGENDA. I WONDERED WHAT THE TIMING IS FOR... IS IT JUST COINCIDENTAL? HOW DID THIS COME ABOUT?

>> COUNCILOR, AS MUCH AS I TRY TO, I WANT TO JUST NOT HAVE A BUNCH OF THINGS EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL MEETING.

IF I CAN PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER OUT OF EXPEDIENCY AND EFFICIENCY, I TRY TO DO THAT. OUT OF RESPECT FOR COUNCIL.

>> WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THEM... I MEAN, I CAN KIND OF MAYBE HELP MANAGE THAT IF YOU THINK THEY SHOULD BE SPREAD OUT?

>> YEAH. I THINK THEY SHOULD.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE ARE JUST PASSING A LOT, AND IT JUST SE SEEMS... I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD HOLD THEM OVER.

IT SEEMS A LOT FOR ONE MEETING. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE DID SPACE THESE OUT BETTER. THAN JUST CRAMMING THEM ALL IN

IN ONE NIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT.

GOOD ADVICE. AS PRESIDENT, I WILL TRY AND DO A BETTER JOB OF SPACING THESE THINGS OUT.

>> SORRY. I CAN DO THAT.

THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM. I THOUGHT THIS WAS MORE

CONVENIENT. >> IT IS GOOD FEEDBACK.

COUNCILOR HANNON? >> ON THIS PARTICULAR AREA, SINCE A BOND HAS NOT BEEN SET, WHAT IS THAT AREA CURRENTLY ZONED? WHAT IS THE... IS THIS GOING TO BE ANOTHER MEDICAL CAMPUS? DO WE KNOW WHAT THE PLANS ARE

RIGHT NOW? >> THIS IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL, I BELIEVE. YOU WILL REMEMBER THAT IS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THEY TOOK DOWN ONE HOUSE AT A TIME AND REZONED IT

AS COMMERCIAL. >> THE TRAINING FOR POLICE AND FIRE. RIGHT?

>> YES. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

NO. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

WITHOUT FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.

I HAVE... OKAY. WE HAVE 9-0.

THAT PASSES. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

>> AND WE ARE NOW ON TO RESOLUTION CC-02062307.

THIS IS A RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND 101 TO THE RAINY DAY FUND. SPONSORS ARE COUNCILORS AASEN, FINKAM, AND RIDER. I'M LOOKING TO COUNCILOR FINKAM.

>> THANK YOU. ALL CHOKED UP THERE FOR A SECOND. THIS TRANSFERS... MOVE TO

INTRODUCE. >> SECOND.

>> THIS TRANSFERS $1 TO THE RAINY DAY FUND PURSUANT TO CITY CODE WHICH REQUIRES THAT THE RAINY DAY FUND BALANCE ON JANUARY, 2023 MUST EQUAL OR EXCEED 10% OF THE 2023 GENERAL FUND BUDGET ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL IN '22.

>> ALL RIGHT. JOHN, DID YOU HAVE ANY LEGAL STATEMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE ABOUT THIS? IT SEEMS STRAIGHT FORWARD. DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, I COULD ADD, TOO, WE PASSED THIS, I BELIEVE, IN 2019.

I INTRODUCED AN ORDINANCE THAT SAID THIS HAS TO BE THE CASE.

YOU SAY THE WORDING "MUST EQ EQUAL." WE HAD ROBUST DISCUSSION THAT THIS COULD NOT BIND FUTURE COUNCILS TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR. THIS IS WHAT MAKES THAT HAPPEN.

>> YUP. THAT IS WHY I LOOK TO YOU TO INTRODUCE THIS. BECAUSE OF YOUR WORK ON THIS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. PLEASE VOTE.

THAT IS 9-0. THAT PASSES.

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A RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA APPROVING THE SUSPENSION OF THE SHORT-TERM RESIDENTIAL RENTAL ORDINANCE DURING CERTAIN PERIODS OF THE YEAR.

COUNCILORS AASEN, FINKAM, AND RIDER.

>> MOVE TO INTRODUCE. >> THIS RESOLUTION APPROVES DATES SUBMITTED TO THE MAYOR FOR THE SUSPENSION OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. SHORT-TERM RESIDENTIAL RENTALS

IN 2023. >> ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU WANT TO READ THOSE DATES, SOMEBODY? OR... SHOULD I READ THEM? SHOULD ANYBODY READ THEM? DO YOU HAVE THEM, JOHN, HANDY? THAT YOU COULD READ THEM INTO THE RECORD FOR US?

>> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. THIS WOULD BE THE DATES THIS YEAR. WHEN THE SHORT-TERM RERENTAL ORDINANCE IS SUSPENDED. AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO APPLY FOR A SPECIAL EXEMPTION THROUGH THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.

THAT WOULD BE APRIL 8 AND 9. MAY 26-30.

JULY 1-4. JULY 14-22.

AUGUST 11-13. SEPTEMBER 2-4.

AND DECEMBER 1 AND 2. >> EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU. .

>> IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THOSE? COUNCILOR HANNON?

>> JUST, JOHN, FOR THE EDIFICATION OF ANYBODY WHO MIGHT BE LISTENING, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THESE DATES SPECIFICALLY TIED TO? OBVIOUSLY, RACE WEEKEND.

WHAT ARE THE OTHER DATES IN THERE?

>> YES. SOME OTHER ONES.

CARMEL MARATHON. SONGBOOK ACADEMY WEEK.

BIG TEN FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP. FOURTH OF JULY AND LABOR DAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. PLEASE VOTE.

OKAY. THAT CARRIES.

[16. OTHER BUSINESS]

CARMEL AUDIT COMMITTEE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE... I'M GOING TO COME BACK WITH A SECOND TRY AT A PERSON.

IF ANYBODY HAS ANYBODY, I WOULD ASK YOU TO GET IT TO ME.

WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS. WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WITH FINANCIAL SKILLS AND THE ORDINANCE IS PRETTY CLEAR WHAT MUST BE DONE. CARMEL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TERM EXPIRES. THAT PERSON, JEFF, HAS ASKED TO BE REAPPOINTED. I'M GOING TO ASK THE CLERK TO...

ISN'T THAT WHO IT IS? YUP.

I'M GOING TO ASK THE CLERK TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

WE WOULD LIKE TO SERVE AGAIN. ... HE WOULD LIKE TO SERVE AGAIN. I WOULD LOVE TO.

IS EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? I MEAN, YOU DON'T WANT TO... OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. COULD I HAVE A MOTION, THEN, TO

REAPPOINT JEFF MAUER? >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. PLEASE VOTE.

ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? THAT MOTION CARRIES.

ANY MOWMENTS? ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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