Apr 17, 2023 City Council Meeting 04-17-23

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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IF THE ROOM WOULD COME TO ORDER CALLING TO ORDER THE MEETING FOR THE COMMON COUNCIL FOR THIS MONDAY, APRIL17, 2023 . WELCOME TO EVERYONE INCLUDING ALL OF OUR VISITORS WE ARE

[2. AGENDA APPROVAL]

IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO ADD-ONS TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT, PLEASE VOTE. ALL RIGHT, THAT PASSES. AND NOW FOR OUR INVOCATION.

[3. INVOCATION]

>> IN THE NAME OF GOD, I PRAY. MERCIFUL AND COMPASSIONATE GOD, I ASK YOU TO BLESS THIS COUNSEL AND ALL THOSE WHO WORK WITH THEM. GUIDED THEM, HELP THEM ENGAGE IN A MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION. REMIND THEM, LORD, WE ARE ALL NEIGHBORS.

AND PROVIDED THEM THE MEANS TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE NEIGHBOR FAIRLY AND JUSTLY.

MAKE THEM GROW CLOSER AS A GROUP AND FACILITATE EASE FOR THEM AS THEY NURTURE THE BONDS OF COMMUNITY. PROVIDED THEM THE FORESIGHT BY WHICH THEY PLAN FOR THE BETTERMENT OF US ALL. PROVIDE THEM THE COURAGE TO LISTEN AND DISCUSS AND EXPLORE ALL POSSIBILITIES OF SERVICE. PROVIDE THEM THE WISDOM TO DISCERN WHAT IS GOOD AND TRUE AND FAIR AND JUST. ALL THIS I PRAY SEEKING YOUR MERCY AND COMPASSION, AMEN.

[4. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND NOW COULD HAVE EVERYONE PLEASE ARISE WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. COUNSELOR CAMPBELL.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, IT IS NOW OUR HONOR AS A BODY TO HAVE A RECOGNITION

[5. RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS]

>> THANK YOU, COUNSIL. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. BEFORE WE GET STARTED I WANT TO RECOGNIZE A FEW PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT MAYOR AND THE BOARD AT THE REAR FOR HERE.

ALANA SHANE, JOE CONNELL, KRISTIN LONG AND DON ALLEN. THEY ARE A GROUP OF CITIZENS WHO VOLUNTEERED TO HELP US RUN OUR DEPARTMENT WITH THE HIRING, PROMOTIONS AND DISCIPLINE ISSUES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN BEING HERE TONIGHT.

I AM PROUD TO SAY WE HAVE THREE NEW HIRES. THEY WENT THROUGH OUR COMPLETE PROCESS. THEY ARE ALL THREE BOXERS AND I WILL CALL THEM DOWN AND HAVE THEM COME FORWARD RIGHT HERE. CALEB LAW, CALEB WAS MARRIED TO ALYSSA THEY SHARE A ONE-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER AND ANOTHER CHILD ON THE WAY. THE SCIENCE DEGREES OF CRUEL JUSTICE AND IEP ONE. BEFORE HE HAD FOR YEARS WITH THE ANNAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT HE WAS A FIRST LIEUTENANT IN THE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD. JASON BRIAN HITCHCOCK.

RYAN IS MARRIED TO EMILY AND HAVE A TWO-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER. HE HAS A BACHELORS DEGREE IN COMMUNICATIONS FROM BUCKINGHAM UNIVERSITY PLAYED FOOTBALL AT BUTLER.

PRIOR TO COMING TO COUNTY HE WORKED FOR ANNAPOLIS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR SIX YEARS. LAST BUT NOT LEAST AUSTIN THE RITENOUR.

HE LIVES WITHIN SCOTLAND AND THEY HAVE A FIVE-YEAR-OLD SON AND A CHILD ON THE WAY.

HE JOINED THE ARMY WHERE HE SERVES AS A SERGEANT STILL IN THE NATIONAL GUARD..

TO GOING TO CARMEL HE WORKED FOR THE ALLEN POLICE. FOR FOUR YEARS.

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[APPLAUSE] >> QUESTION ASKED, HOW MANY OFFICERS THINK THAT SHE PUT THIS IN THE AREA OF 144 OR 140 AND WE WILL BE BACK NEXT MONTH WITH ANOTHER GROUP THEY WERE ALREADY HIRED, ALSO.

>> THANK YOU,CHIEF , CONGRATULATIONS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BEING SAFE.

ALL RIGHT, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON AND WE WILL GO TO RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY BLUE CARDS.

[7. COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS]

COUNCILMAN FINKAM.

>> I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE TONIGHT DIRECTOR OF HR CANNOT BE HERE TONIGHT AND SHE WITH THE LIONS WORK OF WORK THE CITY OF CARMEL HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS A CIRCLE OF EXCELLENCE MEMBER WITH THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF TRANSPORTATION LIVING DONOR EXCELLENCE.HIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE BASICALLY WE DID SOME WORK WE ANNOUNCED LAST MEETING THAT WE PUT IN A POLICY TO PROTECT LIVING DONORS SO THEY KNOW THEY HAD INITIAL SUPPORT TO THEIR DONATIONS THEY DO NOT HAVE TO USE PTO FOR FEAR FOR THEIR JOBS IF THEY WERE OFF WORK.

LISA PUT IN THE POLICIES TO TH AST . WE ARE NOW ONE OF 122 COMPANIES THAT PUT THIS POLICY INTO PLACE AND RECOGNIZE THE CIRCLE OF EXCELLENCE MEMBERS THAT MEANS 2.3 MILLION PLOYS ARE COVERED UNDER THIS PROTECTION THIS FANTASTIC POLICY.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO MAYOR AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES. AGAIN, WE HAD AN EMPLOYEE WHO IS NOT ONLY A KIDNEY DONOR BUT ALSO A LIVING LIVER DONOR WHICH IS PHENOMENAL.

IT IS BECAUSE OF POLICIES LIKE THIS THAT OTHERS CAN SAVE LIVES.

17 PEOPLE DIED EACH YEAR WAITING FOR AN ORGAN THAT DOES NOT COME IN TIME.

APPROXIMATELY 40,000 DONORS EACH YEAR ABOUT THAT SIX PERCENT COME FROM LIVING DONORS.THE POTENTIAL TO SAVE THE LIVES IS TRULY IN THE LIVING DONATION SPACE.

PAND SO, THIS IS SUPER EXCITING THE CITY OF CARMEL IS HELPING MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN SAVING LIVES WHICH IS THE NATIONAL DONATING MONTH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AT GRADUATIONS FOR THESE PARTS. IN THE WORK AND JOHN, TOO, HELPING WITH THE POLICY AND THE PREPARATION COUNSEL AND THE MAYOR FOR BEING OPEN-MINDED TO DO THIS.

>> ALL RIGHT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COUNSEL COMMENTS OR OBSERVATIONS?

[8. CONSENT AGENDA]

RETIREMENT IS $106,146 AND WIRE TRANSFERS $2,387,030.55.

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>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. ALL RIGHT, THAT IS. WE HAVE NO MANUAL DETAILS,

[10. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

>> THANK YOU MR., WE HAVE NOT MET.

>> ALL RIGHT, DO YOU HAVE ANY MEETINGS COMING UP OR ANYTHING ON YOUR AGENDA?

[11. OTHER REPORTS – (at the first meeting of the month specified below):]

>> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. WE WILL GO TO THE ACTIVITIES OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE OVER THE LAST MONTH. AND ALSO HERE TO REPRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE REBUILDING BOARD. WE ENDED THE MONTH OF JANUARY WITH $11.6 MILLION OF FUNDS.

6.7 UNRESTRICTED. PROJECTS CONTINUE TO BE IN FULL BLOOM.

I WAS GOING TO SAY LIKE SPRING BUT IT DOES NOT FEEL LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW.

PLAYFAIR HOLLAND CONTINUES TO SEE WORK BEING DONE AROUND PLAYFAIR HOLLAND THAT'S FULLY OCCUPIED. LOTS OF WORK BEING DONE THAT PICTURE IS OLD THEY ARE NOW ENCLOSING AT LEAST THE THIRD FLOOR AT THIS POINT. WINDSOR, THE UNDERGROUND PARKING HAS BEEN DUG AND THEY ARE NOW GETTING READY FOR THE SECOND STORY OF THE PROJECT.

THERE WILL BE RETAIL/OFFICE SPACE ON THE PROJECT. WITH APARTMENTS ABOVE IT.

PERSON YOU IS BUILT AND I BELIEVE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WE WILL SEE A POTENTIALLY A TAVERN ON THE GREEN CONCEPT BEING SENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT FOR ANOTHER RESTAURANT TO ACTIVATE A PORTION OF THAT GREEN SPACE BY PROSCENIUM.

THE LAUNCH IS FINISHING UP THEIR FINAL UNITS AND I BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE A DEDICATION OF THE GREEN SPACE IN THE MIDDLE, THE COURIER, SOMETIME IN AUGUST.

FIRST ON MAIN CONSTRUCTION IS IN FULLSWING . MAYOR BRAINARD RECENTLY HAD A CHANCE TO JOIN THE LAW FIRM OF MACARTHUR AND ENGLISH THAT HAD A DOWNTOWN INDIANAPOLIS PRESENCE AND THEY ARE THIS IS A REGIONAL FIRM AND THEY ARE MOVING THEIR OFFICES TO MAINSTREET. SO IT'S NICE TO SEE A LARGE LAW FIRM COMING FROM DOWNTOWN INDIANAPOLIS COMING TO OUR MAINSTREET TO BE THERE FOREVER HOME.

CONSTRUCTION OF THAT CONTINUES AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE A LOT OF MOVEMENTS AND FINISHING UP OF MUCH OF THAT SPACE IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER. MAGNOLIA HAS THEIR SECOND ELEVATOR TOWER UP FOR THEIR SECOND STACK FLATS CONCEPT SO THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.

THE CORNER, WHICH IS NOW CALLED THE NEWS, WE SHOULD CHANGE THA , BUT THE NAME.

THAT'S REALLY TAKING SHAPE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THE FA?ADE GO ON TO THE FACE OF THE BUILDING THAT WILL REALLY GIVE IT A LOT MORE DEFINITION. THAT FRONT FACING A ROUNDABOUT WILL BE BRICKS SO THAT PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD FAST. BRICK IS NOW ALSO GOING UP ON THE FA?ADE OF THE SIGNATURE PROJECT OVER IN MAINE. REALLY EXCITED FOR ALL THE RETAIL SPACE THAT'S WHY TO GO THERE. THAT'S GOING TO ADD A LOT OF TO THEM READING AND MAIN AREA. SQUARE GARAGE IS FINISHED WE HAD A DEDICATION FOR THE MURAL ON THE LEFT. THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SLIDE TO THE LEFT THERE'S A MURAL THAT HAS NOW GONE UP IN THE MOSAIC HE SAID NO BUT LOCAL ARTIST NANCY KEATING IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO WE SHOULD SEE THE MURAL GOING UP ON THE EAST SIDE OF THIS GARAGE.

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AND WITH THAT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION OR MOVE ON TO THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY REPORT.

>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL FOR DIRECTOR? OKAY, MOVING ON TO

REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. >> THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY JUST HELD ONE MEETING IN THE LAST HALF YEAR THAT WAS SEPTEMBER 28, 2022 AND WAS THROUGH THE LEASE RENT AND BONDS FOR THE ABOUT 62 MILLION WORTH OF ROAD BONDS DISCOUNTS PASSED AT THE END OF LAST YEAR. THOSE WERE SOLD IN DECEMBER SO THAT WAS THOSE WERE THE BONDS THAT HELPED ALL OF THE TRAIL CONNECTIONS THAT WE HAD, SOME OF THE ROUNDABOUT WORK.

THERE HAS NOT BEEN A REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING THIS YEAR.

>> DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT?

>> YES, IT DOES. ASK ANY QUESTIONS INVOLVING RDA? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DIRECTOR. NEXT UP I WILL CALL UP MARK IS HERE FROM THE CARMEL HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION THIS IS THEIR QUARTERLY REPORT.

THANK YOU MARK FOR JOINING US TODAY.

>> OF COURSE, I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE SUCH A UNDERACHIEVER AFTER HIS REPORT.

MARK ADMINISTRATIVE FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.AS I TYPICALLY SAY YOU ALL RECEIVED A REPORT FROM US ALREADY BUT THERE ARE THREE ITEMS I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT. WE DO HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER WHO LIVES AT 35 MAPLE CREST WHICH IS JUST EAST OF A KEYSTONE PARKWAY WHO IS PURSUING A LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF HER PROPERTY. IT IS GREAT 1932 HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT BY ELI LILLY EXECUTIVE BY THE NAME OF WOODS KEEPER TOWN SO WE HAVE NOW APPROVED THE APPLICATION AND ARE PURSUING DEVELOPING A PRESERVATION PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY. ONCE THAT IS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION IT WILL THEN COME TO YOU ALL UNDER AN ORDINANCE FOR DESIGNATION.

THAT IS IN THE FUTURE. WE HAVE OPENED OUR FA?ADE GRANT FOR THE SPRING.

THOSE APPLICATIONS ARE DUE MAY 1, SO IF YOU KNOW OF ANYBODY WHO HAS A PROPERTY ON OUR HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE SURVEY THAT WOULD LIKE TO TAP INTO FUNDS FOR BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS OR HOME IMPROVEMENTS THEY COULD CERTAINLY PURSUE ONE OF THOSE GRANTS.

AND THEN, FINALLY, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE COUNSEL FOR A WHILE YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE WILKINSON HOUSE THAT'S PART OF THE COURIER OF A CARAMEL PROJECT AT KEYSTONE AND SMOKY ROAD AND AS MANY OF THOSE HOMES HAVE GONE UP THE HISTORIC HOUSE STILL STANDS.

AS OF LATE FEBRUARY, THAT HOUSE DID FINALLY TRANSFERRED TO INDIANA LANDMARKS THE ORGANIZATION I WORK FOR SO WE NOW OWN THAT AND ARE WORKING ON THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR REHABILITATION OF THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY AND HAVE EVEN SHOWN IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, ALREADY, TO PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING IT FOR BEHALF. REHAB.

ANY QUESTIONS? ASK OKAY, THANK YOU

>> APPRECIATE THAT REPORT. NEXT UP I THINK I SAW WINSTON LONG COME IN.

MR. LONG, IF YOU WOULD, AND FOR THE CARMEL CABLE AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS MISSION THIS IS THEREBY ANNUAL REPORT.

>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. I AM A WINSTON LONG. PROUD TO BE HERE TO GIVE YOU MY

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FOR YOU NEW PEOPLE, WELCOME. JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE CABLES SINCE THE FORMATION OF THE COMMISSION AND IT'S A GREAT PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

I GAVE YOU A REPORT AND I HOPE YOU'VE HAD TIME TO LOOK AT IT. AND I WOULD GIVE YOU SOME HIGHLIGHTS IF YOU WOULD LIKE. BASICALLY, NOTHING IS WITH RESPECT TO THE 5G SMALL TOWER DISTRIBUTION BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE REPORT YOU SEE THAT WE DO ANTICIPATE MORE TOWERS BEING CONSTRUCTED. WE ARE NOT THERE YET. THE TOWERS WILL CONTINUE TO BE DEPLOYED FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO.IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION. THAT IS WHERE IT IS NOW.

THE ISSUES RELATED TO MY CONCERN ORIGINALLY REGARDING 5G ARE STILL THERE.

NOTHING HAS HAPPENED THERE. BUT, THAT'S A BORE WE WILL NOT GO OVER TOO.

IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, IF WE DON'T WIN THE INITIAL ONSLAUGHT BASED ON SCIENCE WE MUST DEAL WITH THE REALITY OF MAKING IT WORK. WE DON'T WANT TO INCONVENIENCE CITIZENS. SMALL CELL TOWERS TO PLAY A BENEFIT, ESPECIALLY IN THE FUTURE, THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS 5G DEPLOYMENT IS NOT REALLY 5G MUCH ANYWHERE.

IT IS BASICALLY 4G, 5G /5G AND HAS SOME 5G CAPABILITIES. BUT, IN ORDER TO HAVE TRUE NAVIGATIONAL AND SELF DRIVING CARS AND EVERYTHING IN THE FUTURE WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE THA , FIVE AND 6G, AND THAT WILL BE ME, SEVERAL YEARS AHEAD OF THE 6G BUT IT'S DEFINITELY COMING.

SO THAT'S THE POSITIVENESS. WE JUST HAVE TO ADAPT. WE HAVETO BE SMART AS OUR CITIZENS AND AS OUR COUNSEL WE HAVE GOT TO BE SMART AND LEARNED TO ADAPT AND MAKE THE BEST. AS THEY SAY, MAKE LEMONADE OUT OF LEMONS, SO THAT'S WHAT WE GOT TO DO. IF YOU LOOKED IN THE REPORT YOU SEE EVERYTHING IS NOT A DOWNER.

WE HAVE GOOD REVENUE STREAMS, STILL. THEY ARE MANDATED FOR PAY CHANNELS. FOR OUR NEW FOCUS PEG IS GOVERNMENT EDUCATION AND PUBLIC. YEARS AGO WHEN WE FIRST GOT STARTED IN A CARAMEL WITH THIS TELEVISION OPERATION WE MADE A CONCERTED DECISION AS A CITY COUNCIL THAT WE WOULD NOT INITIATE A MOVE TO CREATE A PUBLIC ACCESS CHANNEL. NOW, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IF WE HAVE A PUBLIC ACCESS CHANNEL WE WOULD HAVE TO FUND AND BUILD A STUDIO.

WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE IT OPEN FOR EVERYBODY TO COME AND AND SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT AND WE HAVE NO GATE ON IT IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY SAY, WHO THEY SAY IT ABOUT AND WHAT THEY DO.

SO, WE JUST DECIDED IT WASN'T IN OUR INTEREST AS A PUBLIC ENTITY TO DO THAT, GO THAT ROUTE. THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT HAVE AN FRANKLY AT NATIONAL CONVENTIONS I'M NOT SURE THAT I AM ONE THAT REALLY IS HAPPY ABOUT IT.

SO, WE MADE A GOOD DECISION. WE ELECTED TO GO WITH EDUCATIONAL ACCESS AND WE ELECTED TO GO TO GOVERNMENT ACCESS. SO OUR STATION HAS DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS AND IT REALLY IS A GOOD VIEWERSHIP BUT THE FOCUS OF MY REPORT TO YOU WAS THE FACT THAT AT CABLE OPERATIONS ARE GOING TO BE AT A MINIMUM FROM NOW ON.

WE ARE GOING STREAMING. ALL THE PROVIDERS ARE GOING STREAMING.

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OF COURSE, AT&T IS NO LONGER A PART OF IT BUT YOU SEE THE DIGITAL LINK AND PEOPLE GET CONFUSED BY THAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN DIGITAL? I HAVE TO GO FIGHT A DIGITAL RECEIVER? NO, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY A DIGITAL RECEIVER.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CLICK THE LINK TO THE WEBSITE AND IT WILL TAKE YOU TO GOVERNMENT STREAMING PLATFORM. AND ANYONE, ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD CAN GO TO THE CITY OF CARMEL WEBSITE, CLICK THAT CARMEL GOVERNMENT TV LIVE LINK AND BE CONNECTED TO THE CHANNEL. IT ALSO, WE HAVE REDESIGNED THE WEBSITE SLIGHTLY, NOT WE, THEY, OUR WEB FOLK HAVE AND THEY'VE DONE A BEAUTIFUL JOB. I MADE THE SUGGESTION THOUGH THAT WE ALSO IN ADDITION TO HAVING THE LIVE LINK, WELL, ACTUALLY IT WAS AN ARCHIVED LINK AND A LIVE LINK WAS A LITTLE HARDER TO GET BUT NOW WE HAVE THE ARCHIVED LINK WHERE YOU CANNOT RETRIEVE ANY OF THESE COUNSEL NUMBER MEETINGS AND COMMISSION MEETINGS OF EVERYTHING AND THAT YOU CAN SEE IT LIVE. AND ARCHIVED.

SO IF YOU SAY SOMETHING, REMEMBER COUNSEL, IF YOU SAY SOMETHING IN HERE IT IS RECORDED AND IT CAN BE RETRIEVED ANYTIME WITH NO EDITING.

WE DO NOT EDIT THESE SHOWS. WE WILL PUT ANYTHING ON THE FRONT AND A CLOSING ON THE END AND ITS LIVE. SO EVEN THIS PRESENTATION IS LIVE.

SOMETIMES I GO BACK AND LOOK AT AND SAY WOW. BUT, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HER . I WOULD BE GLAD TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS SERVICE PROVIDERS REPORTS FROM SPECTRUM INTERNET AND COMCAST.

I WILL WELCOME ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY BUT ONE BIG THING I HAVE MENTIONED THAT CABLE IS GOING OUT. IT IS STREAMING AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IS A STATE-OF-THE-ART FIBER AND ANYBODY, ANYWHERE IN THIS CITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A GREAT PICTURE BECAUSE WE STREAM AND HIGH DEATH. WE HAVE NOT GONE ULTRA HIGH DEATH BECAUSE THAT REQUIRES MORE CAMERAS AND EVERYTHING BUT THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE THAT WE COULD AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

>> ., WHEN YOU SAY STREAMING TALK ABOUT SOMEONE GOING OUT TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND CLICKING LITTLE LIVE TV ICON AND GETTING ON THE PHONE?

>> RIGHT. ASK GOT IT. WHILE I HAVE

>> WHILE I HAVE YOU IN THE NO GO ON TO COUNSEL. IT WAS NOT IN THE PAPER WAS ACTIVE SO WE SEE THERE YOU HAVE A FOUR-YEAR TREND OF THE FEES FROM THE ENTRANCE FEE THEY ARE FALLING DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE FOR THIS YEAR?

>> HAS EVERYONE THE CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE CHART? IF YOU NOTICE THIS YEAR WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED JUST SHORT OF 1/4 OF $1 MILLION AND IT HAS NOT EVEN COME CLOSE TO BEING EVERYBODY IN AND BY THE END OF THE YEAR I AM PROJECTING THAT WE WILL BE, WE WERE $670,000 LAST YEAR, IT MAY BE HALF A MILLION. MAYBE A LITTLE MORE.

>> SO SIGNIFICANTLY.

>> YEAH, IF YOU NOTICE THAT YOUR BEFORE, 220 WE WERE AT 1.3 MILLION AND THEN THREE QUARTERS

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>> OKAY, COUNSELOR AASEN.

>> YOU MENTIONED IN THE REPORT ABOUT BROOKSHIRE CELL PHONE TOWER HAS BEEN PROPOSED IN MY DISTRICT THAT THE QUESTION I GET QUITE A LOT BECAUSE OF POOR CELL PHONE COVERAGE.

PEOPLE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT. BUT I DO GET QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.

HIGGINS AT THE GOLF COURSE AND TALK TO THE MAYOR AND THE ONLY THING I HAVE HEARD IS THAT IT WILL BE NOT VIEWABLE FROM HOMES.I KNOW IT HAS NOT GONE OUT TO BID YET BUT COULD YOU PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE COULD EXPECT FOR WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE?

>> WE WERE THINKING ABOUT MAKING IT LOOK LIKE AN AMERICAN A.M. TREE.

NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA. IT'S RIGHT NOW STILL IN THE DESIGN PORTION OF THE PROCESS.

I HAVE A SHIRT, I HAVE ASSURANCES FROM MIKE, MIKE, YOU HEAR ME, THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO MAKE AS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.

YOU CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. YOU HAVE GOT TO GET THE ANTENNA UP OVER THE TREES.

NOW, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET IT THERE? WE CAN'T FLY A DRONE 24 HOURS A DAY OF HIGH IN THE CLOUDS AND PUT IT THERE SO WERE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HAVE A PHYSICAL STRUCTURE AND I AM SURE WE COULD MAKE IT FUTURISTIC LOOKING OR WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO BE AS LONG AS IT'S NOT TACKY. I WISH I HAD THE ANSWER FOR YOU. ADAM. BECAUSE I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT SINCE I LIVED THERE, TOO. BUT WE ARE GOING TO GET IT FIXED.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. LONG? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

>> THAT IS THE ANSWER, SMALL CELL TOWERS ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE ANSWER FOR GETTING PHONE COVERAGE THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. SMALL CELL TOWERS ARE REALLY A HELP BUT MOST OF THOSE SMALL CELL TOWERS RIGHT NOWARE AT&T'S , DID YOU KNOW THAT?

>> I SAW IN THE REPORT THAT VERIZON PUT THE PROJECT ON HOLD.

>> THE CITY'S NEEDS THREE VENDORS, AT LEAST TWO VENDORS, TO STEP UP AND GO.

VERIZON AS FAR AS I KNOW PUT IT ON HOLD. THEY ARE READY TO GO.

WE NEED TO GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO THAT. NOW, SPECTRUM SAYS WE ARE DOING IT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY. THE JURY IS OUT.

WE NEED THAT MONEY FROM TWO ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP TO REPHRASE SOME OF THE COST AND IT'S PEANUTS. VERIZON IT LOOKED AND SAID I AM IN BUT I'M NOT WRITING THE CHECK. THEIR CUSTOMERS ARE REALLY SCREAMING THAT THEY NEED HELP.

AS LONG AS WE CAN GET CUSTOMER TO SAY WE NEED IT AND COUNSEL WE NEED IT WE NEED TO GET THEM TO STEP UP AND WE NEED TO HAVE SOME COUNSEL LOBBYING, SO TO SPEAK, OF THESE VENDORS AND SAY STEP UP, LET'S PARTNER WITH THIS, PRIVATE PARTNER, PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP, STEP UP AND LET'S GO. IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, COUNSEL? TO HAVE THEM PARTNER WITH US? I AM NOT GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT JUST GIVE ME LIKE IT IT'S POSSIBLE. I DON'T WANT TO PUT HIM ON THE SPOT.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MR. LONG. OKAY, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM

[12. OLD BUSINESS]

[13. PUBLIC HEARINGS]

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13 IS PUBLIC HEARINGS. FIRST ITEM IS FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE Z THANK YOU- 23 AND ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA REPEALING AND REPLACING CHAPTER 10 ARTICLE 5 OF CARMEL CITY CODE SPONSOR COUNSELOR AASEN. MOVED TO INTRODUCE.

>>? IT'S BEEN PROPERLY INTRODUCED CAN YOU RESIST MARXIST FOR ME.

>> THIS IS AN UPDATED VERSION OF THE FEMA DNR MODEL FUNDED DAMAGE PREVENTION ORDINANCE SHOULD REMAIN COMPLIANT WITH THE NATIONAL LIFE INSURANCE PROGRAMS TO THIS WAS UNIVERSALLY PASSED BY THE PLAN COMMISSION AND NOT GO TO COMMITTEE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ADRIAN KILLING LET'S PLAY MORE ABOUT WHAT IT DOES.

>> THANK YOU, GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. AS A COUNSELOR AASEN ALREADY MENTIONED THIS IS A MODEL ORDINANCE THAT HAS COME TO US FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES VIA FEMA. PERIODICALLY THEY UPDATE THEIR MODEL ORDINANCE.

OUR LAST UPDATED OF THAT WAS IN 2014. THE VENT MODEL ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED TO CITY CODE THERE WAS NOW AN UPDATED VERSION AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT BENEFITS OF ADOPTING THE MODEL ORDINANCE. THE FIRST IS IT ALLOWS CARMEL AS WELL AS RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM.

NEXT FLOOD INSURANCE AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF CARMEL.

WITHOUT PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM FLOOD INSURANCE IS NOT AVAILABLE.

AT LAST CHECK WE HAD 375 STRUCTURES WITHIN FLOOD AREAS AND CARMEL.

OF COURSE, THAT'S A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF OVERALL STRUCTURES AND CARMEL.

HOWEVER, AGAIN, WITHOUT PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROGRAM THOSE OWNERS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PURCHASE FLOOD INSURANCE FOR THOSE STRUCTURES OR THEIR CONTENTS.

OF COURSE, ANYONE IS ELIGIBLE TO PURCHASE FLOOD INSURANCE, HOWEVER, IN THE FLOOD HAZARD AREAS FLOOD INSURANCE IS REQUIRED BY MANY LETTERS AS WELL AS FEMA THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY. THE SECOND IMPORTANT PROGRAM WE PARTICIPATE IS CALLED THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM. IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM ALSO THROUGH FEMA.

WE WENT THROUGH A PRETTY RIGOROUS AUDIT I THINK THAT WAS IN LATE 2018 OR EARLY 2019 TO AUDIT OUR POLICIES, ORDINANCES WITH RESPECT TO FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT AND THE REWARD IS BASED ON OUR EFFORTS ABOVE AND BEYOND THE BASIC NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM.

WE HAVE RECEIVED WE ARE A CLASS VIII COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM BUT WHAT THAT MEANS IS OUR RESIDENCE AS WELL AS THE CITY AS WE ALSO CARRY FLOOD INSURANCE ON OUR PROPERTIES WE GET DISCOUNTED FLOOD INSURANCE PREMIUM RATES.IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN OUR CURRENCY WITH THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM SO THOSE DISCOUNTS CAN CONTINUE THE BLACK AND CARMEL. THERE WERE SOME LIMITED DISCUSSION AND QUESTION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. NO ONE FROM THE PUBLIC SPOKE, HOWEVER, I WANT TO, I WILL QUICKLY SHOW A MAP. WE WERE ASKED TO THE MAGNITUDE OF WHERE THESE FLOOD HAZARD AREAS EXIST AND I WILL CLICK ON THE AERIAL JUST BECAUSE IT HIGHLIGHTS THE FLOOD AREAS BUT IT'S REALLY MORE IT'S WATERWAY IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH WATERWAYS.

OF COURSE, YOU SEE THIS AREA AROUNDTHE WHITE RIVER THESE ARE HAZARD AREAS , COOL CREEK, WILLIAMS CREEK, BUT GEOGRAPHICALLY IT'S A SMALL AREA OF THE CITY, HOWEVER, THESE PROTECTIONS HELP KEEP NEW STRUCTURES OUT OF THESE AREAS AND IF THEY ARE IN THESE AREAS THEY ARE A LITTLE STRICTER REGULATIONS TO KEEP THINGS LIKE SYSTEMS OUT AND ABOVE FLOOD HAZARD AREAS, THE ELEVATIONS, I WILL TURN ON THE AERIAL THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE FLOOD AREAS A

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>> OKAY VERY GOOD. BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? DOCTOR HANNON.

>> IT'S A LOT OF RED, 1500 LINES, THAT BEING SAID I KNOW THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT IS REFUTED AND JOHN HAS REVIEWED IT AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS REFUTED THIS IS LARGELY OR PENTIRE BOILERPLATE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FROM FEMA?

>> MANY OF THE LINES ARE THE SAME. WHEN WE GET A DOCUMENT FROM FEMA IT'S HARD TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST EXACTLY WHAT THE CHANGES.

WE ARE REPLACING BUT IS NOT, IF WE WERE TO REDLINE WORD FOR WORD IT WOULD ONLY BE A FEW THINGS.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> COUNSELOR FINKAM. >> LAST TIME I DIDN'T BELIEVE WE UPDATED THE ETHICALLY ADDED HOUSES TO IT THEY SAID THEY DID YOU START TO PLAY FOR FLOOD INSURANCE BUT NOW THEY DO. I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING.

>> THIS DOES NOT AMEND THIS MAP THE MAPS ARE DETERMINED BY FEMA REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO.

I WANTED TO SHOW THE MAP TO SHOW THE BREADTH OF WHERE THESE FLOOD AREAS LIE BUT IT IS NOT HAD A STRUCTURES TO IT JUST STRENGTHENS THE STANDARDS FOR WHAT WOULD OCCUR IF NEW STRUCTURES OR NEW DEVELOPMENTS WERE TO BE PROPOSED IN THE FLOOD HAZARD AREAS

>> I WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE AT SOME POINT IN MY TIME AT COUNCIL WE ADOPTED LANGUAGE AND A MAP AND CHANGED SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS MONEY OUT OF POCKET AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I DID READ THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE DID I MISS SOMETHING WITH ALL THESE LINES.

SO, THANK YOU. THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> AT THIS TIME I WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE Z-682-23, WOULD YOU PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE PODIUM.

APPEAR AT 6:43 PM. I SEE NO ONE MAKING AN EFFORT TO MOVE TOWARDS THE PODIUM AND SO I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:43 PM PLUS SOME SECONDS.

I AM SEEKING A MOTION.

>> MOVED TO SUSPEND THE RULES ON THIS ITEM.

>> MOVED AND A SECOND IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON SUSPENDING THE RULES?OKAY, PLEASE VOTE.

OKAY, THAT CARRIES.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> ALL RIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. THAT HAS PASSED, UNANIMOUSLY. THAT IS NOW IN PLACE.

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE ARE NOW MOVE ON TO FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D-2668-23 AND ORGANS OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA VACATING CERTAIN RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED WITHIN THE LOR 1933 LOUNGE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT SPONSOR IS COUNSELOR WORLD. MOVED INTRODUCE.THE SYNOPSIS BEGINS TO ALICE WITHIN THE LOR 1933 LOUNGE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

EXPLAIN THIS, PLEASE.

>> HELLO AGAIN, COUNSEL. REGIONAL AND DIRECTOR. IF YOU REMEMBER I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST AUGUST THE 1933 LOUNGE PROJECT WAS FIRST INTRODUCED TO CITY COUNCIL.

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ONE OF THOSE WAS AN ALLOCATION AREA THAT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW AND THE FINAL PIECE THAT COMES BACK TO COUNSEL ON THIS PROJECT IS THE VACATION OF THIS NORTH-SOUTH ALLEY ON THE CURRENT SITE. AND THIS EAST-WEST ALLEY ON THE CURRENT SITE.

TO ESSENTIALLY PUT THIS PROJECT INTO MOTION. SINCE OUR LAST MEETING ON THIS BOTH THE BZA AND THE PLAN COMMISSION HAD HEARINGS ON THIS PROJECT AND APPROVED THE PROJECT. SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A FINAL STEP IN EFFECTUATING WHAT COUNSEL HAD INITIALLY BLESSED BACK IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE.

THIS IS THE VACATION OF THE ALLEYS THAT RUN NORTH-SOUTH TO THE SIDE.AT THIS MOMENT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OWNS THESE PARCELS SO WHEN THESE ALLEYS ARE VACATED THEY WILL BE ESSENTIALLY SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE AND BECOME PART OF THE LARGER REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION PARCELS. THOSE PARCELS WILL THEN BE TRANSFERRED TO THE DEVELOPER ONCE THE DEVELOPER HAS SHOWN THEY HAVE OBTAINED ALL FINANCING TO GET THE PROJECT GOING. LAST WEEK, BTW USUALLY FOR VALLEY VACATIONS IT'S A TWO-STEP PROCESS THEY PROVEN FIRST WHICH HAPPENED LAST WEEK SO THIS IS NOW GOING TO COUNSEL FOR YOUR APPROVAL. AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR I HAVE JOHN OR LENDER PUBLIC COUNSEL, AS WELL.

>> COUNSELOR HANNON.

>> ONLINE 14 AND LINE 19 IS SAYS LOT 1 INSTEAD OF LOR 1933 REGIONAL THE PROJECT WHICH IS AT LEAST ON THE COPY I HAVE I'M NOT SURE ON EVERYBODY ELSE'S.

>> WHAT PAGES THAT?

>> IT'S THE ORDINANCE AND ITS LINE 14 AND LINE 19.

>> OIC, AT 100.

>> I BELIEVE. SHE COUNSEL WAS THERE --.

>> THANK YOU, GOOD CATCH. COUNSELOR AASEN.

>> I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT BZA APPROVED THIS. AND WE HAVE ANOTHER MATTER THAT STILL IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. COULD YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ABOUT SOME OF THE COMMUNICATION WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA. I KNOW YOU HAVE WILL THIS PROJECT ONGOING AND HOW THAT IS GOING RIGHT NOW.

>> YES. THERE WERE SOME NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT. SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS INCLUDE , WELL, WHAT HAPPENS WITH DRAINAGE WHEN THIS PROJECT IS BUILT? THE CITY ENGINEER BASICALLY EXPLAINED THAT THIS SITE WILL ACTUALLY TAKE ON SOME OF THE SURROUNDING DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT EXISTED BECAUSE THIS ENTIRE CENTRAL AREA, THIS PARKING LOT, BASICALLY HAS DETENTION UNDER THE PARKING. THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH SUPPLIES AND WILL THEY, ANY LAND BE TAKEN FROM THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH, WILL SUPPLY STREET BE WIDENED AND THE ANSWER FROM THE ENGINEER DEPARTMENT IS SUPPLYING STREET WILL BE WHY DID TO BE NORMAL TO LINE STREET BUT NO LAND WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE SOUTH FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE ALL COME FROM THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. THE BZA APPROVED VARIANCES INCLUDING FROM REMEMBER WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS FIRST INTRODUCED THESE TOWNHOMES WERE PRESENTED LIKE THE LAUNCH STYLE LIKE FOUR-STORY SO WHEN THE SUN SHINES THE FOUR-STORY DOES NOT

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WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE'S A TRASH ENCLOSURE HERE THERE'S A COUPLE OF TRANSFORMERS.

AT THE TRASH ENCLOSURE IS ENCLOSED BY THE SAME BREAK MATERIALS THAT ARE USED ON THE OFFICE BUILDING. AND THEN THERE IS LANDSCAPING AROUND THE ENCLOSURE ITSELF.

ONE OF THE, RIGHT HERE, IS, THIS IS LOOKING NORTH AT THE TRASH ENCLOSURE.

THERE WAS MORE LAND ON THE SOUTH FOR A LANDSCAPING BUFFER. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE HERE, YOU SEE A LANDSCAPING BUFFER. THE TRASH ENCLOSURE ASKED IN A WAY TO ESSENTIALLY SHIELD THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH OR PARTIALLY FROM LIGHTS, HEADLIGHTS, FROM THE PARKING LOT. A COUPLE OTHER POINTS, SOMETIMES YOU GET SMELLS AROUND TRASH, ESPECIALLY AROUND RESTAURANTS, THOSE SMELLS HAPPENED MOSTLY BECAUSE OF GRACE. THERE IS NO GREASE CONTAINERS HERE THERE'S A GREASE TRAP THAT'S IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE SO IT'S UNDERGROUND SO THERE'S NO GREASE SMELLS AT THIS PARKING OR AT THIS TRASH ENCLOSURE. ADDITIONALLY, THE MANAGER, THE COMPANY LOR BUILDING IS ARE MOVING THEIR HEADQUARTERS HERE. WHOEVER THE MANAGER OF THE SITE WHOEVER'S GOING TO MAINTAIN AND MANAGE THIS AREA THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT OUT THERE WINDOW, ESSENTIALLY. A FINAL POINT ABOUT THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES ACTUALLY RAN A LINE DOWN THERE SO THERE'S A HOSE THEY COULD WASH OUT THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AT ANY TIME. AT LEAST MY EXPERIENCE IS PROBABLY THE NICEST TRASH ENCLOSURE WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF CARMEL. ALL THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A SUMMARY OF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAD WITH REGARD TO THAT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DID THAT IS YOUR QUESTION? WHEN WE DO THESE ALLEY VACATIONS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE UTILITIES IF THERE ARE ANY IN THAT SPACE?

>> AT LEAST WITH THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN WORKING WITH DUKE TO BURY THE UTILITIES UNDERGROUND.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. AT THIS POINT I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D-2668-23 I WOULD ASK YOU TO MAKE YOUR WAY FORWARD WE ARE OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:53 PM.

AGAIN, I SEE NOBODY MAKING THEIR WAY SO I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:53 PM PLUS.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO GO TO LAND USE OR IS THERE A MOTION TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT?

>> I MOVE WE SUSPEND THE RULES AND ACT ON THIS THIS EVENING. ASK WE HAVE A MOTION TO SUSPEND AND A SECOND IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? EVERYBODY IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? ALL RIGHT, I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE VOTE.

AND WE DO HAVE A UNANIMOUS SO WILL MOVE THEM TO A MOTION. I AM SORRY, OKAY.

BUT, YOU ARE OKAY WITH US TAKING THE BOAT THEN? IT STILL CARRIES THOSE WE WILL STILL VOTE SO GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT A MOTION. OR DO WE HAVE TO GO?

>> MR. PRESIDENT, THE VOTE WAS WHETHER IT WOULD BE SUSPENDED.

>> YOU ARE NEW SO NO PROBLEM. IF YOU EVER WANT SOMETHING TO GO THEN THAT'S KIND OF WHY I HESITATED IF ANYONE WANTS SOMETHING TO GO TO COMMITTEE YOU HAVE TO SPEAK UP.

DO YOU WANT TO GO TO COMMITTEE OR YOU ARE OKAY VOTING? YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR VOTE?

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I GUESS I'M THE ONLY ONE. I AM SORRY I DID NOT CATCH THAT.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. OKAY, AND IF SO, THAT IS H-ONE, THE MOTION CARRIES. AT THIS MOMENT I WANT TO TAKE A PAUSE.

I NOTE IN OUR AUDIENCE TO TELL WEARING SCOUT UNIFORMS. I AM DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO JUST PLEASE STAND AND COULD YOU TELL US YOUR NAME AND TRIP NUMBER AND MAYBE WHY YOU ARE HERE TONIGHT.

>>.

>> AND THAT YOU CHOSE AN EXCITING ONE. LET'S GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. OUR LAST ITEM OF BUSINESS I AM HAPPY TO READ THIS ONE

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>> WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. PI WILL GO TO COUNSELING CAMPBELL.

>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WHILE SOME MAY SAY IS JUST 27. $20,000 WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE FOR DOING THIS.

I DON'T FEEL IS THE ROLE OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE DISASTER RELIEF THROUGHOUT THE STATE. I BELIEVE PRESIDENT BIDEN DETERMINED THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR FEDERAL RELIEF SO TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE ALREADY GOING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO SULLIVAN.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS ONE, HOW THIS CAME ABOUT AND 2 HOW ARE WE ASKED AND WERE OTHER HAMILTON COUNTY CITIES ASKING FOR THE SAME?

>> DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THAT WERE GO TO THE QUESTION? THE REQUEST CAME FROM THE ADMINISTRATION FROM MAYOR BRAINARD'S OFFICE. IT'S ON THE EMAIL WENT OUT TO ALL MUNICIPALITIES IN INDIANA TO MY KNOWLEDGE I ACTUALLY GOT A COPY OF THAT A COUPLE OF DAYS AS PRESIDENT OF THE EMAIL. AND HE SUGGESTED THE AMOUNT AND THE CITY BASED ON THAT.

AND SO, HE ASKED JOHN TO CREATE A RESOLUTION I SENT OUT TO ALL OF YOU AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. COUNSELOR FINKAM.

>> I SHARE LAURA'S CONCERN AS WELL BECAUSE I GOT AN EMAIL ABOUT HOW HOMEOWNERS CAN APPLY FOR ASSISTANCE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THESE COUNTIES AFFECTED BY THE TORNADO.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS NEEDED? WE HAVE OUR OWN DISASTERS HERE AND WE HAVE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE DISPLACED BECAUSE OF A FIRE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN THIS GIVEN THIS CAME OUT JUST YESTERDAY AND TODAY. I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S NEEDED GIVEN THE DISASTER DECLARATION FOR INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE.

>> WHAT YOU MEAN JUST CAME OUT YESTERDAY OR TODAY?

>> THE FEMA ANNOUNCEMENT I GOT AN EMAIL TODAY ABOUT HOW TO APPLY FOR FEMA ASSISTANCE FOR THIS. > I'M NOT AWARE THAT I SAW SOMETHING ABOUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A WEBINAR ON THAT OR SOMETHING.

>> IT WAS ANNOUNCED OVER THE WEEKEND ABOUT THE FEMA DISASTER.

ASK >> I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE DISCUSSION AND TAKE A VOTE. THIS COMES FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND INHABITED HAVEN'T

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>> I WAS GONNA SAY MAYBE WE SHOULD SEND IT TO COMMITTEE.

>> YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE A GO TO FINANCE.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK AS WELL BUT THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.

>> ONE COUNSELOR CAN SEND TO FINANCE.

>> IT'S A RESOLUTION.

>> IF YOU WANT TO SEND IT TO FINANCE I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. I WILL SEND IT TO FINANCE.

MAY 3, WE WILL DEAL WITH THIS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL? WE STILL NEED A CARMEL CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENT TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

AS FOR A TWO-YEAR TERM THIS PERSON NEEDS TO BEA CPA . WE HAVE STRUCK OUT NOW I THINK TWICE ON FINDING SOMEONE WITH A CPA. SO WE FILLED ONE OF THE TERMS BUT WE STILL ARE LOOKING SO IF ANYONE KNOWS SOMEONE THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP US OUT.

OKAY, ALL RIGHT, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, WE ARE ADJOURNED

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.