[A. Call to Order] [00:00:11] MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS OF MARCH 25TH TO ORDER. WE WILL START OUT WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>, WE HAVE ROLL CALL? >> SALIM NAJJAR? DENNIS [D. Declaration of Quorum] LOCKWOOD? >> PRESENT. >> KEVIN RIGHT NEXT? >> PRESENT. >> LITTLE YORK? >> PRESENT. [E. Approval of Minutes and Findings of Facts of Previous Meetings] >> KIM BROOCH? >> PRESENT. >> AND WE HAVE A CORM. I NEED APPROVAL OF MINUTES AND FINDING OF THE FACTS FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING. DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> ANY CHANGES? PLEASE THOUGH. DO WE USE THE VOTE OR YOU HAVE TO DO ROLL CALL? WE CAN DO VERBAL? I AM SWITCHING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSE? IT IS PASSED. COMMUNICATION BILLS AND ITS MANAGERS? I'M GOING TO GUESS NONE. [G. Reports, Announcements, Legal Counsel Report, and Department Concerns] >> VOTE FOR MY OFFICE . >> THANK YOU. REPORTS, ANNOUNCEMENT, LEGAL ANNOUNCEMENT REPORTS AND CONCERNS? >> THAT EVENING. FROM CORPORATION COUNCIL, WE DO HAVE ONE REQUEST IN THAT SECTION OF THE AGENDA, WHICH IS REQUEST TO AMEND THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR OPENNESS OF A BOARD, AND BASICALLY, A TWO AMENDMENT, NUMBER ONE, ALMONDS THE RULES SO THAT THERE IS A LIMIT TO 10 NEW ITEMS FOR THE HEARING OFFICER, AS WELL AS THE REGULAR BZA MEETINGS. SOME OF YOU KNOW, HEARING OF SOME MEETINGS AHEAD OF THE ITEMS , AT TIMES, THIS STAFF , AS WELL AS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT , FEELS THAT ANYTHING ABOVE 10 , JUST TOO MANY. THAT'S TOO MANY ITEMS TO CONSIDER , NOT SITTING. IT REDUCES AN AMOUNT OF MINUTES YOU CAN CONSIDER PER ITEM, AND YOU ONLY HAVE 30 MINUTES TO 45 MINUTES TO CONSIDER THEM, AND SO, IT'S REALLY CREATE A SITUATION WHERE YOU JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO IMPROVE AN ITEM, WHICH IS REALLY TOO SHORT. THAT'S THE FIRST REQUEST FOR AMENDMENT . THAT CAN BE FOUND IN ARTICLE 4, AGENDA SECTION 1, THE LANGUAGE THERE. AND THE SECOND REQUEST IS REALLY MORE OF A HOUSEKEEPING REQUEST MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. IT AMENDS REFERENCES TO TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, TO D.O.C. AS STAFF. THE REASON FOR IT IS THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS CREATED OPERATING VERY DIFFERENTLY 10 YEARS AGO. THE COMMITTEE LITERALLY SAT AROUND A TABLE AND DISCUSSED VARIOUS ITEMS , AND BZA -- NOW IT OPERATES QUITE DIFFERENTLY A LOT OF INPUT IS OBTAINED FROM, NUMBER ONE, FROM MOST OF OUR CITIZENS, ALL FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, AND MOST OF IT IS DONE ELECTRONICALLY . SO, NOT TO HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH OPEN-DOOR LAW , AND JUST THERE'S NO REALLY COMMITTEE ANYMORE. IT'S ALL DONE BY STAFF. SO, THE PROCEDURE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. STAFF WILL STILL REVIEW OR REQUEST AND OBTAIN ALL COMMENTS FROM ALL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IF NECESSARY, WHICH WILL BE PROVIDED . AGAIN, USUALLY ELECTRONICALLY OR THROUGH ZOOM OR TEAMS , OR MEANS OF ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION. THAT REALLY IS A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM, REALLY THAT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE, IT'S A STAFF REVIEW. TO AVOID ANY ISSUES, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT LANGUAGE IN THE PROCEDURE. AGAIN, IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE PROCESS OF REVIEW ON THAT. THOSE CHANGES CAN BE FOUND IN ARTICLE FOUR DUKE, AGENDA SECTION 3, AND THEN THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER REFERENCES . ARTICLE SEVEN, SECTION 11 . AND FINALLY, [00:05:21] ARTICLE 7, SECTION 13. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM BZA MEMBERS? WE NEED A MOTION. RIGHT? YOU ARE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL, AM I CORRECT? >> MOVED TO APPROVE THESE CHANGES. >> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? IT'S PAST. >> TAKE YOU. I WILL PROVIDE A CLEAN COPY OF THE UPDATED CARMEL BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS , MR. CHAIR. [H.(V) Bush Property Variances] >> THANK YOU. START OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE THE BUSH PROPERTY VARIANCES. THE APPLICANT SEEKS THE FOLLOWING DEVELOPMENT STANDARD VARIANCE APPROVALS FOR NEW SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING AND ATTACHED GARAGE AND DETACHED ACCESSORY BUILDING. DOCKET NUMBER PZ-2024-0005 AND PZ-2024-0007. DID I DO ENOUGH ZEROS? YES, PETITIONER? HIT THE MICROPHONE AT THE BOTTOM. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M JONATHAN HAS , ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT, REPRESENTING ROBERT BUSCH. SEEKING TWO VARIANCES, FROM THE FIRST, AS YOU READ, FOR THE ACCESSORY BUILDING HEIGHT FROM 18 FEET TO 22 FEET, REQUESTED. THE OTHER ONE IS THE SETBACK OF THE ACCESSORY BUILDING FROM THE PRINCIPAL RESIDENCE , BECAUSE THE SHAPE OF THE SITE WAS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE AND WE ACTUALLY HAD THE ACCESSORY BUILDING FORWARD ON THE SITE, AND THE PRINCIPAL RESIDENCE TO THE REAR OF THE SITE . BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY RUSSIANS, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT. >> OKAY. WANTED TO THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST. DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING? ALL THOSE WANTING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE MICROPHONE. LACKING THE RUSH OF PEOPLE TO THE MICROPHONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. STAFF? >> THANK YOU. JUST TO FURTHER CLARIFY THE VARIANCE REQUEST, THE PROPOSED HEIGHT OF THE ACCESSORY BUILDING WILL BE AROUND 22 TO 23 FEET HIGH , AND THAT IS A VARIANCE REQUEST OF AROUND 4 OF 5 FEET , AND THEN REGARDING THE ACCESSORY BUILDING SETBACK, IT WILL SET AROUND 226 FEET IN FRONT OF THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING OR THE HOUSE, BUT IT WILL STILL BE SETBACK AROUND 425 FEET AWAY FROM THE STREET, SO FOR REFERENCE, A FOOTBALL FIELD IS AROUND 350-360 FEET LONG, SO IT WON'T BE SEEN FROM THE STREET. AGAIN, THIS IS CLOSE TO A 4-ACRE SIZE LOT , OR PARCEL OF LAND, AND PLANNING STAFF IS SUPPORTED OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST WITH THE PETITION OF THE PETITIONER FROM THE REMAINING COMMENTS AND PROJECT DOCKS. THANK YOU. PETITIONER BY BZA? >> JUST ONE QUICK ONE. WHY DID YOU MOVE IT TO 226 FEET AWAY? >> THE SHAPE OF THE SITE IS ACTUALLY LIKE A FLAG . SO, VERY LONG ACCESS DRIVE. AS WE WERE CITING THE PRINCIPAL RESIDENCE, WE WANTED THAT TO HAVE THE BEST LOCATION ON THE SITE, SO THE ACCESSORY BUILDING THEN CAME FORWARD , JUST TO OPTIMIZE WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WITH RESPECT TO THE SIDE ORIENTATIONS, PASSING SOLAR CONSIDERATIONS, ACTUAL DAYLIGHTING, ET CETERA, IN THE PRINCIPAL RESIDENCE . >> SPOKEN LIKE AN ARCHITECT. >> EXCUSE ME? >> SPOKEN LIKE AN ARCHITECT. >> SORRY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR? >> JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, AND I COULDN'T TELL FROM THE DRAWINGS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, IS THE ACCESSORY BUILDING TALLER THAN THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE? >> IT IS. >> OKAY. >> IS THERE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT? MAYBE POINTS TOWARDS [00:10:01] STAFF? >> IS NOT A CONCERN FROM PLANNING STAFF. IT'S SO FAR BACK IN THE STREET, AND THE SETBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS IS VERY LARGE , PLANNING STAFF DIDN'T HAVE A CONCERN. >> I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE ACCESSORY AREA BUILDING, WHERE IT'S SITUATED, KIND OF MARRIAGE WHERE THE OTHER ACCESSORY BUILDINGS IS ADJACENT TO THE ADDITION PROPERTIES ON -- SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR RATIONALE FOR DOING THAT, AND I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR WHAT STAFF ASKS FOR . >> SECOND. >> CAN I TAKE THAT AS WE'RE USING WHAT YOU SAID? >> YES. THE CONDITION OF PROJECT . >> ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> TAKE IT AWAY . [H.(UV) Arise Rehabilitation Facility Use Variance] >> WILL DO. >> AFTER HE GETS DONE WITH STAFF. ALL RIGHT. SECOND, WE HAVE A RISE REHABILITATION FACILITY WITH VARIANTS, DOCKET DO NOT NUMBER PZV-2023-0021. PETITIONER, PLEASE COME FORWARD. THERE SHOULD BE A COURT COMING OFF. IT WILL TAKE A SECOND. I SAID CAN WE NEED MUSIC FOR THIS. >> THIS , DON'T USE YOUR COMPUTER. YOU DON'T NEED TO USE YOUR COMPUTER IF WHAT IS IN YOUR COMPUTER IS THE SAME AS WHAT'S THERE. OKAY. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ADAM STEPHENSON. I'M THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF ALLIES COMMERCIAL REALTY, AND WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT ON BEHALF OF DENNIS BARNETT AND THE ARRIVED SUBSTANCE ABUSE CARE SERVICES TEAM. THEY ARE SEEKING A USE VARIANCE FOR A FACILITY LOCATED AT 4545 NORTHWESTERN DRIVE , ZIONSVILLE, INDIANA, 46077. THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED I-1, INDUSTRIAL, AND ALLOWS FOR A MEDICAL HEALTH CENTER . THEY ARE REQUESTING A USE VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR INPATIENT STAY AT THIS FACILITY FOR THEIR PATIENTS. THE PROPERTY IS A 9400 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING, AND IT CAN ACCOMMODATE UP TO 30 PATIENTS AT ANY GIVEN TIME, AND THEIR PATIENTS TYPICALLY STAY FOR A DURATION OF 28 DAYS. SO, WHY WOULD CARMEL BENEFIT FROM A FACILITY SUCH AS ARISE? DID [00:15:03] YOU KNOW THAT THERE WAS 1545 DEATHS THAT OCCURRED IN THE STATE OF INDIANA DURING THE 2023 CALENDAR YEAR? THIS IS AN ALARMING NUMBER , AND TO KIND OF BREAK THIS NUMBER DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, THERE WERE 28 DEATHS IN HAMILTON COUNTY DURING THE 2023 CALENDAR YEAR . JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBER, WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS I KIND OF JUMPED OUT TO ME WAS THE MAJORITY OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE 15 TO 24 YEARS OF AGE, SO THERE'S A LOT OF YOUNG FOLKS THAT ARE BATTLING ADDICTION, AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A SERVICE LIKE ARISE SUBSTANCE ABUSE CARE FACILITY TO TREAT THESE PATIENTS, NOT ONLY IN THE SHORT TERM, BUT GIVE THEM THE TOOLS TO REALLY FIGHT THEIR ADDICTIONS, AND HAVE THEM BE A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTOR TO SOCIETY. SO, LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RISE AND WHO THEY ARE. THEY ARE A SISTER COMPANY OF THE COMMITMENT HOUSE. THE COMMITMENT HOUSE IS AN ALCOHOL AND DRUG TREATMENT FACILITY BASED OUT OF ELIZABETHTOWN, KENTUCKY. THEY HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 11 YEARS. THEY HAVE 10 LOCATIONS, AND THEY ARE A PERSON-CENTERED ADDICTION TREATMENT FACILITY THAT HAVE, ESSENTIALLY, LOOKING AND HELPING THESE PATIENTS , THE LONG-TERM SOBRIETY . THERE'S A QR CODE ON THIS PAGE, AT THE BOTTOM, AND YOU CAN SCAN THAT, AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO THEIR WEBSITE, GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY DO. WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH THE FACILITY'S DIRECTOR OF PRACTICE OF CARMEL , WHICH WAS A LANDMARK FACILITY. THEY HAD A PREVIOUS FACILITY IN CARMEL , AND WE SAT DOWN WITH THIS PERSON BECAUSE WE WANTED TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT FACILITY AND HOW IT CORRELATES, HOW IT COMPARES TO ARISE , AND BY HAVING THAT MEETING, WE WERE ABLE TO UNCOVER A LOT OF VALUABLE INFORMATION . WE CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT. AS FAR AS STAFF, THE PRACTICE OF CARMEL FACILITY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE FORMAL TRAINING FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES, WHEREAS WITH THE ARISE FACILITY, THEY HIRE EXPERIENCED AND TRAINED -- EXPERIENCED STAFF , TRAINED SPECIFICALLY IN THIS FIELD OF WORK . AS FAR AS VALUES, THE PRACTICE OF CARMEL FACILITY WAS VERY, VERY MUCH A CORPORATE-RUN FACILITY. WE MADE A VERY CLEAR IT WAS CORPORATE-RUN. PATIENTS WERE JUST NUMBERS. IT WAS ALL ABOUT REVENUE AND GROWTH, WHEREAS WITH THE PETITIONER, ARISE, THEY HAVE A VALUE -- THEY VALUE THE MISSION OF PROVIDING PATIENT-CENTERED TREATMENT SO, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE PATIENTS, GETTING THEM THE PROPER CARE THAT THEY NEED. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS I NOTICED WAS THE SCREENING PROCESS THROUGH THE CORPORATE FACILITY. THEY HAVE A CALL CENTER THAT YOU CALL INTO. THAT WAS THEIR SCREENING PROCESS. WITH ARISE, THEY HAVE AN EMISSIONS DIRECTOR ON THE SITE -- AT THE SITE, AND THEY DO A FULL SCREENING PROCESS TO REALLY VET THESE PATIENTS AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE A GOOD FIT FOR THE FACILITY. I NOTICED THAT A LOT OF THESE LARGER HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS WILL TRY TO DUMP PATIENTS ON UNCERTAIN FACILITIES, SO BY DOING THIS THOROUGH SCREENING PROCESS, THEY'RE MAKING SURE THE PATIENT THAT COME INTO THE FACILITY ARE TRULY LOOKING FOR THE CARE THAT THEY NEED AND ARE A GOOD FIT FOR THE FACILITY. AS FAR AS THE TREATMENT PLANS, CORPORATE FACILITY MODEL WAS MORE OF A STANDARD MODEL OF CARE. ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL. WITH THE ARISE , IT'S MORE OF A PERSONALIZED, CUSTOM TREATMENT PLAN. THIS WILL LIKELY BE HELPFUL IN THE SHORT TERM, BUT HELPING THE PATIENT'S LONG-TERM WELL AFTER THEY LEAVE THIS FACILITY, GIVING THEM THE TOOLS THAT ARE GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND BE A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTOR TO SOCIETY. AS FAR AS PATIENT DISCHARGE, THEY WOULD HAVE PATIENTS THAT, WITHOUT THE MEDICAL -- PROPER MEDICAL ADVICE -- THEY WOULD KIND OF LEAVE THE FACILITY. WHEREAS, WITH ARISE, IT'S ALREADY WERE TO LEAVE EARLY -- WHICH DOESN'T HAPPEN FREQUENTLY BECAUSE OF THEIR BATTING PROCESS AND SCREENING PROCESS, BUT SOME WERE TO WANT TO LEAVE EARLY, THEY WERE THEIR INSURANCE COMPANIES TO PROVIDE A MEDI-CAL THAT WOULD DELIVER THEM TO THEIR RESIDENCE, OR THEY WOULD CONTACT THEIR RELATIVES, FAMILY MEMBERS, TO HAVE THEM COME PICK HIM UP. THE LOCATION OF THE FACILITY, [00:20:07] AS I MENTIONED, 4545 NORTHWESTERN DRIVE. AS YOU WILL SEE FROM THIS MAP, THIS FACILITY IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER CORPORATE, COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDINGS. THERE'S ZERO RESIDENTIAL RESIDENCES AROUND THIS AREA . YOU WILL NOTICE , ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO THE LOCAL OWNERS ASSOCIATION TO MAKE THEM AWARE THIS SUBSTANCE ABUSE CARE FACILITY WAS GOING ON. NOT ONLY DID THEY OFFER THEIR POSITIVE FEEDBACK, THEY WROTE THIS LETTER GIVING US THEIR FULL SUPPORT THEY UNDERSTAND THE EPIDEMIC OF OPIOIDS , AND FAMILIES IMPACTED BY SUBSTANCE ABUSE, AND THEY ARE ON FULL SUPPORT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A COMPANY LIKE RISE TO GO IN THERE AND HELP THESE PATIENTS GET BACK ON THEIR FEET, BECOME A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTOR TO SOCIETY. YEAH. IT WAS REALLY HEARTWARMING TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF SUPPORT THAT WE GOT FROM THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE OWNERS, INTRODUCTION TO THE OWNERS. WE HAVE DENNIS BARNETT, THE CEO OF THE COMMITMENT HOUSE, ALSO GOING TO BE A PARTNER IN THIS PROJECT, AND A BIG-TIME CONTRIBUTOR . HE BRINGS AN INVALUABLE AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE WITHIN THIS INDUSTRY. AS WE TALKED, EARLIER, THEY HAVE 11 LOCATIONS. THEY'RE IN BUSINESS 11 YEARS, HAVE 10 LOCATIONS. SO , HE HAS GONE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF RUNNING JUST A TOP-NOTCH FACILITY . THEY HAVE PROVEN PROCESSES IN PLACE, AND WILL BE IN SIMENTAL WITH THE HIRING OF THE STAFF , MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO PROVIDE POSITIVE RESULTS FOR THEIR PATIENTS. ANOTHER PARTNER OF THE PROJECT WILL BE DR. MACHINDI FOR HANCOCK REGIONAL NETWORK . SHE HAS A FOCUS ON FAMILY MEDICINE, HOSPITALITY MEDICINE, QUALITY, PATIENT FOCUSES, THE MOST IMPORTANCE TO HER . THEN, WE HAVE HER HUSBAND, SADIK MACHINDI, CONFLICT MANAGEMENT EXPERT, KIND OF LOOK AT HIM AS MORE OF A PSYCHOLOGIST. HE IS GOING TO BE IN SIMENTAL IN THE CONFLICT MANAGEMENT , COUNSELING, REALLY HELPING THESE PATIENTS FROM A MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT OF . THAT'S KIND OF THE SEPARATE -- WE HAVE THE MEDICAL SIDE OF THE PRACTICE, THEN YOU HAVE THE MENTAL HEALTH SIDE OF THE PRACTICE, SO THEY HAVE EXPERTISE IN BOTH AREAS, AND THEN THEIR SON WILL BE INVOLVED, AND HE IS A RECENT IVY LEAGUE EDGEWOOD FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA. HE IS THE PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONAL , AND HE WILL HAVE A FOCUS MORE ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE OF THE BUSINESS, SPECIFICALLY KIND OF DESIGNING THE CURRICULUM FOR THEIR TREATMENT PLANS . SOME KIND OF BUSINESS CONSIDERATIONS, THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION WILL BE 24 HOURS A DAY, 7 DAYS A WEEK . THEIR PROFESSIONAL STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE FROM 8:00 TO 4:30 . THERE WILL BE 20 EMPLOYEES AT THE SITE ON AVERAGE , RANGING FROM DIFFERENT TITLES LISTED IN THE PRESENTATION , BUT THEY WILL RUN THREE DIFFERENT SHIFTS, AND AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THEY WILL HAVE A FACILITY CAPACITY OF UP TO 30 CLIENTS AT ANY TIME. SO, THE TYPICAL LENGTH OF STAY FOR EACH PATIENT IS 28 DAYS. THEY HAVE A OPEN PROCESS THAT , 28 DAYS, THESE PATIENTS HAVE DRAMATIC POSITIVE IMPACT UPON THEIR DEPARTURE AFTER 28 DAYS . THIS FACILITY HAS 48 PARKING SPACES, SO ENOUGH PARKING FOR THE EMPLOYEES. MANY OF THE PATIENTS WERE DROPPED OFF BY LOVED ONES OR FAMILY MEMBERS. FULL SECURITY AT THE FACILITY IS EQUIPPED WITH CAMERAS. ACCESS DOORS REMAINED LOCKED FROM THE OUTSIDE. THEY WILL BE MAKING COSMETIC IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUILDING, WHICH WILL INCLUDE NEW FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM. WE HAVE RESTARTED CAPTAIN CHRIS ELLISON, MAKING SURE WE ARE WORKING WITH HIM TO MEET THE LOCAL ORDINANCES FOR CARAMEL. THEY WILL BE INSTALLING A BIKE RACK FOR SIDEWALK ALONG NORTHWESTERN PLAZA DRIVE, EVERYTHING WILL BE A.D.A. ACCESSIBLE, PARKING , THEY WILL CREATE A LANDSCAPE PLAN, WORK WITH DARREN MET HIM ON THAT. THE SIGNAGE -- THERE'S A CANOPY ON THE SITE, AND THEY WILL BE WORKING WITH THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY, MAKING SURE THEY'RE COMPLIANT WITH THEIR SIGNAGE. WE'LL BE [00:25:10] INSTALLING A MEN'S AND WOMEN'S A.D.A. COMPLIANT SHOWERS WITH COMMERCIAL KITCHEN TO FEED THE PATIENTS. TWO SETS OF WASHER AND DRYERS, AND THEN THEY WILL REMOVE A COUPLE OF WALLS. SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THEY ARE EXCITED TO BE A POSITIVE IMPACT TO THE CITY OF CARMEL, AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A HUGE DEMAND FOR THIS TYPE OF SERVICE. I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE A HUGE IMPACT FOR THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST, PLEASE COME FORWARD. YES? >> OKAY. >> STATE YOUR NAME AND IF YOU LIVE IN CARMEL. >> MY NAME IS MARINA NAZARETH, AND I SHARE THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR THAT HE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, AND I WANT TO SAY THAT, AS A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL, MYSELF, BEING IN THE INDUSTRY FOR OVER 20 YEARS, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED FOR THAT TYPE OF FACILITY. I UNDERSTAND THAT IS VERY MUCH NEEDED , AND I AM SURE IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD JOB, AND IS GOING TO BENEFIT THE CITY, ALTHOUGH, THAT LOCATION NOT DESIGNED FOR INPATIENT STAY. THAT LOCATION IS FOR PROFESSIONAL USE ONLY . THERE'S BARELY A FEW BUILDINGS. THERE'S AN INTERNAL BUILDING, THERE'S ANOTHER HOMECARE OFFICE BUILDING. THIS BUILDING HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNED TO HAVE EFFICIENT ALL OF THE SUCH A TYPE OF CARE PATIENTS THAT ARE NEEDING 24/7 CARE, SO I HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT MY OWN SAFETY AND SAFETY OF MY STAFF THAT ARE GOING TO WORK ON A DAILY BASIS. BECAUSE WE GOING TO SHARE THE SAME PARKING LOT, SO I BELIEVE IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THEIR, AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY, BECAUSE THAT TYPE OF PATIENT IS , AS A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL MYSELF, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY FOR THAT TYPE OF PATIENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE INPATIENT FOR THE DRUG ABUSE. SO, I'M SURE THAT CITY OF CARMEL WILL BENEFIT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION IS RIGHT LOCATION FOR INPATIENT STAY. IT IS NOT SAFE, AND THERE IS REALLY NOTHING ANYTHING THAT JUSTIFY INPATIENT STAY . IT USED TO BE A TURNING OFFICE , AND SO, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT MY SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF MY STAFF THAT ARE COMING IN TO WORK MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. 24/7 FACILITY, THOSE KIND OF PATIENTS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT BECAUSE WE ON DRUGS. AND SO, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT ANY VANDALISM OR ANY OTHER ISSUES CAN BE PREVENTED. >> PLEASE DO. I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> WOULD YOU MIND SPEAKING MORE ABOUT YOUR SAFETY AND YOUR CONCERN? >> I'M CONCERNED ABOUT MY SAFETY BECAUSE MY BUILDING IS NEXT DOOR TO THAT BUILDING, AND MY STAFF IS COMING IN TO WORK ON A DAILY BASIS, SO THIS IS INPATIENT FACILITY THAT PEOPLE ARE ON DRUGS MADE NOT COMPLIANT, CAN LEAVE THE BUILDING ANYTIME, CAN VANDALIZE MY PARKING, CAN VANDALIZE THE CARS OF THE PARKING OF MY STAFF . THEY OUT OF CONTROL. THESE PEOPLE ARE VERY SPECIFICALLY IN NEED OF INPATIENT STAY. THIS LOCATION IS JUST NOT SET UP FOR INPATIENT STAY IN THAT TYPE OF OBSERVATION THAT I NEED. IT HAS TO BE LOCKED DOWN UNION, AND IT HAS TO BE MONITORED 24/7, BUT IT JUST DOES NOT HAVE A ROOM FOR THAT TYPE OF FACILITY IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. AND SO, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE SICK , VERY UNPREDICTABLE, THEY CAN EASILY ESCAPE, THEY CAN DAMAGE THE BACKYARD OF ANYBODY'S , THEY GOING TO WALK AROUND, YOU DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IT'S UNPREDICTABLE . UNFORTUNATELY, THESE PEOPLE ARE MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY SICK THAT ARE GOING THROUGH WITHDRAWAL PROCESS FROM THE DRUGS. AND SO, IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE MEANWHILE. >> YOU NEED TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION. >> YES. >> YOU HAVE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION. [00:30:01] >> OKAY. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? >> NO. IT'S JUST I WANTED TO SAIL UP HIS >> WE WILL LET THEM COMMENT . >> OKAY. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN. I WOULD SAY THAT , PETITIONER, THEY HAVE 11 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS INDUSTRY. THEY HAVE 10 LOCATIONS. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS AND ANY OF THEIR OTHER LOCATIONS , AS SHE IS INDICATING. THESE PATIENTS ARE NOT CURRENTLY ON DRUGS. THEY ARE NOT ON DRUGS. THEY'RE PATIENTS THAT ARE LOOKING TO GET BETTER , SO THEY'RE NOT ACTIVELY ON DRUGS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ROAMING AROUND THE LOCAL AREA. THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY COMBINED , YOU KNOW, TO THAT PROPERTY . THE PETITIONER LOOK AT THIS BUILDING. THEY FEEL LIKE THIS BUILDING IS A PERFECT FIT FOR THEIR BUSINESS AND FOR TREATING THESE PATIENTS. THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO , BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE WITHIN THE INDUSTRY . >> TO ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORS' CONCERN , WHAT IS IN PLACE TO STOP THEM FROM WALKING ALONG WITH IT? >> THEY HAVE FULL SECURITY SYSTEM ON CAMERAS . THEY ALSO HAVE , ESSENTIALLY, DOORS THAT ARE LOCKED . >> FROM THE OUTSIDE, YOU SAID? THESE PATIENTS ARE, ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, GOING THERE FREE WILL TO GO SEEK TREATMENT . SO, THESE PATIENTS, BASED ON OUR CLIENTS' EXPERIENCE, WITH THESE OTHER FACILITIES, THEY DON'T HAVE PATIENCE THAT JUST RUN OUT OF THE BUILDING. IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN. >> DO YOU TEST THE PATIENTS BEFORE THEY COME IN IF THEY ARE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE FOR DRUGS? DO YOU CLAIM THEY'RE NOT ON DRUGS WHEN THEY COME IN IS MY QUESTION? ARE THEY TESTED? >> YEAH. THEY DO A THOROUGH PRESCREENING PROCESS. >> THAT DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION. NO? NO. ARE THEY TESTED BEFORE THEY COME IN? I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A REQUIREMENT. I'M ASKING YOU. YOU SAID, THEY'RE NOT ON DRUGS. OKAY, SO WHAT STOPS THEM -- YOU ALSO DIDN'T ANSWER MY FIRST QUESTION. WHAT STOPS THEM FROM LEAVING THE BUILDING? I WAS GOING TO SAY, THE CAMERAS DON'T STOP SUMMARY FROM LEAVING THE BUILDING. >> UNDERSTAND. >> SO, THEY HAVE IN PLACE WHAT THEY CALL THE INSURANCE COMPANIES FOR WHAT THE CALL MEDICAL CAB, WHICH THE INSURANCE COMPANY SENDS A CAB LIKE A UBER TO PICK THEM UP AND TAKE THEM TO THEIR PREFERRED LOCATION. >> THAT'S STILL NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION . >> NEITHER ONE OF YOU, AGAIN, WHAT STOPS THEM FROM GOING OUT? THEY'RE NOT LOCKED IN. CORRECT? >> NO. THEY CANNOT FORCE THEM BY FORCE KEEPING THEM HERE. >> OKAY. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP. >> YEAH. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FORCE THEIR PATIENTS. IF THEY DON'T WANT TO BE THERE, THEY DON'T FORCE THE PATIENTS AGAINST THEIR FREE WILL, FORCE THEM TO STAY THERE. BUT BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THEIR OTHER LOCATIONS, THEY DON'T HAVE PATIENCE THAT JUST WALK OUT OF THE FACILITY. >> BECAUSE YOU HAVE FACILITIES THAT , SOMEBODY WHO IS ARRESTED, DOING DRUGS, THEY'RE SENT TO A REHAB. HOW WOULD YOU IDENTIFY THIS FACILITY THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THAT? YOU SAY, THEY'RE NOT ON DRUGS WHEN THEY COME IN. >> A LOT OF THESE PATIENTS ARE BROUGHT TO THE FACILITY BY A LOVED ONE, SAY, HEY, WE NEED HELP. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FORCED UPON, LIKE COURT ORDERED AS MUCH AS IT MORE PRIVATE PAY , PATIENTS THAT ARE ACTIVELY SEEKING HELP . >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. >> THANK YOU. SO, THIS SITE IS ZONED BY ONE INDUSTRIAL IN THE MICHIGAN OVERLAY DISTRICT, AND A CLINICAL MEDICAL HEALTH CENTER IS AN ALLOWED LAND-USE. SO, IT IS MORE THE INSTITUTIONAL HOSPITAL COMPONENT THAT IS NOT ALLOWED, AND THAT'S FOR THE OVERNIGHT ACCOMMODATION OF PATIENTS. SO, THAT'S THE USE VARIANCE BEING REQUESTED TONIGHT. OVERALL, PLANNING STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PETITION , AND WE THINK THAT THE PROPOSAL DOES FALL IN LINE WITH THE COMPANY HAS A PLAN, GOALS, AND OBJECTIVES FOR THIS AREA OF TOWN CALLED THE [00:35:01] GATEWAY AREA OF MICHIGAN CORRIDOR AREA. PLANNING STAFF HAS ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH THE PETITIONER TO GET THINGS ADDRESSED SUCH AS THE SIGNAGE, LANDSCAPING, THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, ALL THOSE LIFE SAFETY ISSUES AS WELL , AND PLANNING STAFF DOES RECOMMEND POSITIVE CONSIDERATION OF THE USE VARIANCE REQUEST WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE PETITIONER ADDRESSES ALL REMAINING REVIEW COMMENTS AND PROJECT ODDS. THANK YOU. >> IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES? >> I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. SO, I'M GOING TO BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY. PEOPLE ARE DYING FROM ADDICTION, AND I'VE GOT ABOUT 23 YEARS EXPERIENCE WITHIN THE RECOVERY COMMUNITY , AND I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE WANDERING AROUND HER NEIGHBORHOOD ON DRUGS AND DRUNK DRIVING THAN THE 30 PEOPLE OF THE STURDY PATIENTS THAT MAY BE IN THIS FACILITY. I ABSOLUTELY AM ALL FOR THIS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, SIR? >> JUST TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS, THE PATIENTS THAT WOULD BE HERE OUR OFFICE THEY WILL BE STAYING THERE 24/70 FOR THE PERIOD OF TIME THEY WOULD BE TREATED, CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT . >> OKAY. ARE THERE ALSO PATIENTS WHO WOULD BE COMING IN JUST FOR A DAY VISIT ? I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT THIS MEDI-CAB. I'M CONFUSED. >> THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF PRESCREENING, MAKING SURE THEY'RE ACCEPTING THE RIGHT PATIENTS THAT ARE A GOOD FIT FOR THE FACILITY, SO IT'S NOT COMMON BASED ON OUR INTERVIEW OF OUR PETITIONER. IT'S NOT COMMON FOR THEIR OTHER 10 LOCATIONS THAT THEY HAVE PATIENTS THAT LEAVE EARLY. NOT VERY COMMON. >> ESSENTIALY, THIS SERVICE IS TO BRING THEM IN FOR DAY ONE. THEY PROBABLY USE THIS SERVICE ON DAY 28 WHEN THEY LEAVE, OR A LOVED ONE WOULD COME DROP THEM OFF, PICKS HIM UP AT THE BEGINNING AND END? OKAY. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE STAFF -- THE FACILITY WILL BE STAFFED 24/7. CORRECT? >> CORRECT . >> SO, THIS CONSTANT SUPERVISION. >> CORRECT. >> OKAY. I GUESS, GOING BACK TO THE -- AND IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT -- THE IDEA OF HAVING SECURITY FOR THE BUILDING , DO YOU KNOW WHAT MEASURES, WHAT SECURITY MEASURES BESIDES CAMERAS THAT WILL BE PUT IN PLACE? WILL THE DOORS HAVE SOME SORT OF LOCKING MECHANISM THAT WOULD PREVENT SOMEONE FROM BEING ABLE TO JUST WALK OUT AND LEAVE? ARE THEY ALARMED? DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKS? >> THEY ARE LOCKED FROM THE OUTSIDE. WE DON'T KNOW IF, AFTER, YOU KNOW, LOCKED AT NIGHT, THEY WILL HAVE DIFFERENT MEASURES, BUT IF THAT'S NECESSARY, I'M SURE THEY WON'T. >> AND I'M ASSUMING, AGAIN, AS WE'RE APPROACHING THE SUBJECT OF LIFE SAFETY WITH REGARD TO EXITING , BUT WITH STAFF BEING THERE, I ASSUME THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASSIST IN GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF THE BUILDING IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> OKAY. >> >> NOT RIGHT NOW. NO. WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. THE TIME TO SPEAK IS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE ALREADY DID IT. WERE YOU NOT HERE? YOU MISSED IT? >> >> COMMENT TIME IS OVER. >> OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL FOR NOW. THANK YOU. >> A COUPLE OF GOOD QUESTIONS. YOU ARE CONVERTING AN OFFICE BUILDING INTO A HEALTHCARE FACILITY, IS THERE A MAJOR MODIFICATION INVOLVING ? >> REALLY, THERE'S NOT. MOST OF THE PRIVATE OFFICES THROUGHOUT THIS FACILITY, THEY ALREADY HAVE WINDOWS FOR EACH ONE OF THE OFFICES. THAT WAS A BIG KIND OF CHECKED BOX AS IT RELATES TO THE FACILITY. THEY HAVE THIS WOULD BE INSTALLING OLYMPUS A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE UP TO CODE WITH A FIRE SAFETY PERSPECTIVE. THERE WILL BE AN INSTALLATION OF THE COMMERCIAL KITCHEN, MAKE SURE THE PATIENTS ARE GETTING THAT OTHER THAN THAT, ALSO SOME SHOWERS , INSTALLING SOME SHOWERS, BUT IT MEETS THE NEEDS OF -- FROM A FACILITY PERSPECTIVE -- THIS [00:40:04] LOCATION, AND SO -- YEAH . >> WHAT IS YOUR PROPOSED DATE OF OCCUPANCY? >> THEY WILL BE SUBMITTING ARCHITECTURAL PLANS FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THEY'RE GOING TO BE MAKING. THEY CAN TAKE A LOOK AS PER CONTRACTOR -- MAYBE 90 DAYS FOR APPROVAL FOR THE DRAWINGS, THEN THE STATE PERMIT, THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY ANOTHER 90 DAYS OR SO TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS, SO WE WILL PROBABLY SIX MONTHS BEFORE THEY'RE EVEN OCCUPYING THE FACILITY. >> OKAY. YOU ADDRESSED THE PARKING. I GUESS THAT DIVING A FACILITY FOR PARKING? >> THERE IS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> JUST A QUICK -- I THINK YOU COVERED IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, FROM STAFF, THEY CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT THEY PROPOSED TO DO, JUST THE OVERNIGHT PIECE THAT THEY NEED APPROVAL FOR? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. SO, DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE FROM THE STATE OF INDIANA? DO THEY MONITOR? OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT . >> YES, YES. >> ALL RIGHT. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING LEE HAS SAID I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS. IT'S SOMETHING OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS. HAPPY THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO OPEN UP HERE . >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I AM LOOKING FOR A MOTION. YOU MAY NOT . YOU SHOULD HAVE SHOWN UP ON TIME. YOU NEED TO STOP SPEAKING. YOU CAN STOP SPEAKING OR YOU CAN LEAVE THE ROOM. ONE OR THE OTHER. I DON'T CARE WHICH ONE. STOP SPEAKING OR LEAVE THE ROOM. I DON'T CARE WHICH ONE. STOP SPEAKING OR LEAVE THE ROOM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION. THAT NEEDS TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING. >> YEAH. I MOVED TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION THAT ALL REVIEW COMMENTS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES ARE MET. >> SECOND. >> ADOPTING FINDING OF FACTS . YES, THAT'S RIGHT >> AND ADOPTION OF FINDING A FAX. THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? YES, SIR? >> SORRY, WHO SECONDED THAT MOTION? THANK YOU. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSE? THANK YOU. 5-0. NEXT, WE HAVE BRECKENRIDGE [H.(UV) Brackenridge Accessory Dwelling Use Variance. ] ACCESSORY DWELLING USE VARIANCE. DOCKET NUMBER PZV-2024-0025, PETITIONER? >> IS THAT ALL? MY NAME IS DENNIS BRECKENRIDGE. WE BOUGHT A PROPERTY ON CORNELL TO LIVE IN, AND THERE IS A GARAGE THERE WITH AN ATTACHED SHOP THAT'S ALREADY BASICALLY A STRUCTURE THERE. BASICALLY, NOT, IT WAS ALREADY THERE WHEN WE BOUGHT IT. WE WANT TO USE IT AS A MOTHER-IN-LAW QUARTERS FOR MIXED USAGE FOR GRANDPARENTS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE THERE, BUT WE WILL BASICALLY HAVE A SMALL APARTMENT IN THE BACK. THERE WAS AN OLD DRIVEWAY THERE WE WANT TO PUT A NICE CONCRETE DRIVEWAY WHERE THE OLD DRIVEWAY WAS, BASICALLY, AND IMPROVE THE PROPERTY . THE NEIGHBORHOOD -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE FOOTPRINT AND ALL OF THE CURRENT BUILDING. IT IS JUST GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME. IT IS NOT GOING TO GET ANY TALLER OR WIDER. WE WILL USE WAS THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF MIXED-USE AND COMMON USAGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD . JUST LOOKING AROUND, THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE THAT HAVE GARAGES WITH APARTMENTS ON THEM, OR DOUBLES, OR JUST MIXED USAGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO IT'S PRETTY COMMON. THAT'S BASICALLY IT . THE PLANS WERE TURNED IN FOR WHAT WE WERE SUGGESTING, HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT, AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR , ON TIME , ANY WISHING TO SPEAK AGAINST? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. DEPARTMENT ? >> THANK YOU. THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED R-3 RESIDENCE , AND IN THE ZONING DISTRICT, 2 FAMILY DUPLEX ARE ALLOWED, BUT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING IS NOT [00:45:04] ALLOWED, SO THAT IS WHY THEY ARE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. SO, AT THIS BEEN A BUILDING WITH SIDE-BY-SIDE , TWO DWELLING UNITS, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED, BUT THIS IS A DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT WILL BE CONVERTED INTO AN IN LAW'S CORRIDORS. PLANNING STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS NEW VARIANCE REQUEST, AND THE PETITIONERS WORKING TO ADDRESS ALL REMAINING REVIEW COMMENTS, AND ALSO , REGARDING THE CONFERENCE OF PLANT, THIS TYPE OF AN ACCESSORY DWELLING FITS IN WITH THE GOALS OF THE CONFERENCE OF PLANT AND IS CONSIDERED A BEST FIT NEXT TO THE EXISTING SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES , AND WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, PLANNING STAFF DOES RECOMMEND POSITIVE CONSIDERATION OF THIS USE VARIANCE WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE PETITIONER ADDRESSES ALL REMAINING PURVIEW FROM THE GOVERNANCE. THANK YOU. >> BZA, ANY QUESTIONS/COMMENTS ? YES, SIR? >> IN THE INTEREST OF FULL DISCLOSURE, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS PERSON TATIAN WAS GOING TO BE TIED , AND THE LADY STANDING THERE IS MY WIFE'S NIECE. I WILL HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF. >> NOT A PROBLEM. WE ACCEPT THAT. >> I DON'T THINK IT IS A COMPETENT INTEREST, BUT, MR. NAJJAR, IF YOU BELIEVE IT WOULD IMPEDE YOUR ABILITY -- >> I DON'T THINK IT WOULD IMPEDE MY ABILITY, I'M JUST SURPRISED TO SEE HER. >> UNDERSTOOD. I WOULD NOT CONSIDER IT A LEGAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. >> THANK YOU. >> IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR JUDGMENT WILL BE IMPACTFUL IN ANY WAY. >> NO, NOT MY JUDGMENT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO GO FOR IT. >> I'M SORRY, I MOVE. >> THAT WOULD INCLUDE ANY OUTSTANDING PROJECT DOCUMENTS AND FINDING OF FACTS FOR APPROVAL? OKAY, DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSE? ? VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> HAVE A GOOD EVENING. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.