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>>> GOOD EVENING I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE WORD OF ZONING APPEALS HEARING OFFICER MEETING. SEPTEMBER 23RD. 5:15 P.M. LET'S START WITH THE PLEDGE.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE
FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU. ANY REPORTS ANNOUNCEMENTS OR LEGAL REPORTS? CONCERNS? WE WILL DIG INTO THE
[D. (V) Everwise Credit Union Drive-Thru Variance.]
PUBLIC HEARINGS THEN. OKAY, FIRST UP IS EVER WISE CREDIT UNION DRIVE THROUGH DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS VARIANCE PC 202 FOR 00128V. PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM. THANK YOU.>> JUST PUT THE BUTTON ON THE BASE. PUSH THE BUTTON ON THE BASE. SHARE YOUR NAME AND THE PROPERTY FOR THE PETITION.
>> MY NAME IS MARANDA SEALS I AM THE ARCHITECT REPRESENTING EVER WISE CREDIT UNION. THE VARIANCE WE ARE SEEKING FOR 10 920 NORTH MICHIGAN ROAD IS FOR TO HAVE THE DRIVE-THROUGH I TMS LOCATED ON A STREET FRONTAGE THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. AND THE REASON WE ARE SEEKING THAT IS BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE STREET FRONTAGES. SO IT IS NOT REALLY POSSIBLE TO PUT IT AT THE BACK OF THE LOT. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH
IT. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS PETITION?
>> THE DEPARTMENT REPORT PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE RECORD THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING. THE PETITIONER POSES A NEW CREDIT UNION BUILDING WITH DRIVE-THROUGH ITM WHICH IS INTERACTIVE TELLER MACHINE LANES BUT THIS VARIANCE REQUESTED IS FOR THE DRIVE-THROUGH LOCATION. ALL THE OTHER VOTING STANDARDS ARE MET.
PER YOU DEAL SECTION 3.9 5F DRIVE-THROUGH LOCATIONS MUST BE LOCATED TO THE REAR OF THE PARCEL. HOWEVER THE SITE SHE MENTIONED IS THREE FRONTAGES. THEREFORE THE REQUIREMENT CANNOT BE MET. ALL PLANNING AND ZONING REVIEW COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND THE DEPARTMENT UNITY SERVICES RECOMMENDS POSITIVE CONSIDERATION OF THIS VARIANCE REQUEST WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE FINDINGS SUBMITTED BY THE
PETITIONER. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I DROVE PAST THERE THIS WEEKEND. HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED AT THE ISSUE OF MAY BE TRAFFIC WITH -- THAT ROAD IS SORT OF A ROAD AND A PARKING
LOT FOR THE CANDOR CARE. >> RIGHT THIS WENT THROUGH THE P.A. DLS. AND I BELIEVE THEY WENT THROUGH THEY DISCUSS THAT ISSUE. AFTER THE DP ELLIS WAS APPROVED THIS WAS ONE THING ONE
VARIANCE. >> PERFECT. THANK YOU. I WILL GRANT THIS VARIANCE WITH ADOPTION OF THE FINDINGS OF FACT SOME SUBMITTED BY THE PETITIONER. THANK YOU.
[D. (V) Beck Residence Variances.]
>> OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA BECK RESIDENCE VARIANCES.
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS VARIANCES FOR DOCKET NUMBER PZ TOOMEY 24TH 0013 FOR V. 00135V AND 00136V.
>> MY NAME IS RYAN KRIEGER THE BUILDER. FOR THE PROJECTS AT THE BECKS. THE JOB ADDRESS IS FOR 31ST AVENUE SOUTHEAST IN CARMEL. LOOKING TO EXPAND THE DECK AREA TAKING UP A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE AREA. THAT IS WHY I'M HERE.
>> ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS PETITION?
>> DEPARTMENT REPORT PLEASE. >> ONCE AGAIN JOE WITH PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. THE PETITIONER SEEKS APPROVAL FOR A NEW SWIMMING POOL ON THE SIDE YARD PICK THE VARIANCE REQUESTED FOR LOT COVER SIDE SETBACK AND A WINDOW WELL SAID ÷THIS IS RELATED TO AN EXISTING HOUSE. ALLOWS FOR 35% LOT COVERAGE AND 38.3 IS REQUESTED WHICH MAKES THIS A 3.3
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INCREASE. SINCE THE SITE WILL BE EXCEEDING THE ALLOWED LOT COVERED PERCENTAGE THE CARMEL ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS ALSO GOING TO REQUIRE ON-SITE STORMWATER RETENTION OR PAVEMENT INTO OUR STORMWATER. THE PETITIONER HAS OPTED TO PAY INTO THE FUND. THE YOU DL REQUIRES SWIMMING POOLS THAT TO BE LOCATED MINIMUM OF 10 FEET FROM A SIDE REAR YARD PROPERTY LINE. THERE IS A 5.7 SETBACK REQUESTED SO THIS IS A VARIANCE OF FOREFEET AND THREE INCHES. LASTLY THE YOU DL ALLOWS WINDOW WELLS AND ARE TWO ZONE TO UP TO TWO FEET INTO A BUILDING SETBACK. A THREE-FOOT ENCROACHMENT IS REQUESTED. THE VARIANCE OF ONE FOOT MORE THAN THAT IS ALLOWED. THE WINDOW WELL STILL HAVE A TWO FOOT SETBACK FROM THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE. ALL OF OUR PLANNING AND ZONING REVIEW COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AT THIS TIME. THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES RECOMMENDS POSITIVE CONSIDERATION OF THESE VARIANCE REQUEST WITH THE CONDITION OF THE PETITIONER PAYING INTO THE STORMWATER FUND FEE AND THE ADOPTION OF FINDINGS OF FACTS SUBMITTED BY THE PETITIONER. THANK YOU.>> I DID READ THAT THE STAFF APPROVED THE SPECS AS WELL AND
THEY ARE QUIET PICK >> THEY DID PROVIDE AND WE LOOK THROUGH THAT AND IT DOES HAVE A QUIET MILD TO IT.
>> PERFECT. AND THEN DID OTHER THAN PAYING INTO THE FUND ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT?
>> NOT AT THIS TIME. >> I WILL GRANT THESE VARIANCES THEN. ON THE CONDITION THAT THE FUND CONTRIBUTION IS MADE. AND INTO THE STORMWATER FUND. AND THEN ALSO WITH ADOPTION OF THE FINDINGS OF FACTS SUBMITTED BY THE PETITIONER. THANK YOU.
[D. (V) Wishart Accessory Building Variance.]
>> NEXT UP WISHARD ACCESSORY BUILDING VARIANCE. DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS VARIANCE PC WHO 02 FORD 00137V.
>> MY NAME IS ANDY WISHART. I LIVE THAT 116 FOR TWO ROSEMEAD DRIVE IN CARMEL. I'M REQUESTING TO BUILD A WOODEN GAZEBO IN MY PROPERTY. IT IS A 16 BY 20 FOR GAZEBO. THE REASON WHY I'M HAVING TO DO THIS IS THIS PROPERTY HAPPEN TO BE COMBINED BETWEEN TWO LOTS. AND THE RULE IS 75% OF THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE -- THE SECOND PROPERTY ALREADY HAD A GARAGE ON IT. IT ABSORBED ALL OF THE AVAILABLE SPACE TO BUILD ANYTHING. SO I'M REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO BUILD
A GAZEBO. ON MY PATIO. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS PETITION? JOE YOU ARE UP.
>> THANK YOU. PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. THIS VARIANCE IS REQUESTED FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES SQUARE FOOTAGE AS MENTIONED BY THE PETITIONER. THE SITE IS LOCATED IN ROSEMEAD COMMON SUBDIVISION. HLA APPROVAL HAS BEEN GRANTED.
THE DIMENSIONS OF THIS GAZEBO PERGOLA WILL BE 16 FOOT WIDE AND 26 4 INCHES LONG. IT WILL BE 12 FEET AND FIVE INCHES TALL TO THE ROOF PEAK AND MADE OF WOOD WITH ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF WITH COLORS AND MATERIALS TO MATCH THE EXISTING GARAGE ON SITE. IT WILL BE PLACED BETWEEN THE HOME AND EXISTING GARAGE OUTBUILDING NEAR THE SWIMMING POOL. AT THIS TIME ALL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DOES SUPPORT THE VARIANCE REQUEST BECAUSE THE SLOT IS FAIRLY LARGE COMPARED TO OTHER LOTS. IT CAN EASILY ACCOMMODATE ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND USES. THE ONES THAT ARE ON-SITE OF THE POOL PERGOLA GARAGE AND WE RECOMMEND POSITIVE CONSIDERATION OF THIS VARIANCE REQUEST WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE FINDINGS OF FACTS SUBMITTED BY THE PETITIONER.
>> THANK YOU. GIVEN THAT HLA APPROVAL I WILL GRANT THIS VARIANCE. FOR THE PERGOLA AND WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE FINDINGS OF FACTS SUBMITTED BY THE PETITIONER. THANK YOU. YOU
[D. (V) Tru Hotel Sign Variance.]
>>> TRUE HOTEL SIGN VARIANCE. DOCKET NUMBER PC 202 FOR 001
FOR ONE V. >> GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS DORA OWNER OF THE TRUE HOTEL IN CARMEL. LOOKING FOR THE SIGN VARIANCE THAT IS GOING TO BE MORE ARTISTIC TYPE OF SIGN. WE
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WORKED WITH STAFF ON SERVING THE NEEDS OF VISIBILITY ON U.S.HIGHWAY GOING NORTH AND SOUTH. THE HOTEL IS GOING TO EAST AND WEST SO THIS WILL BE THE ONLY SIGN ALONG THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THE SIGN IS CIRCULAR IN NATURE. AND MEETS CODE.
DISPLAYED SIGN IS MORE OF THE ARTISTIC ELEMENT THAT WILL BE SURROUNDING IT IN PROPORTIONATE SIZE FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF.
>> THANK YOU. ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS
>> PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. THE PETITIONER SEEKS APPROVAL FOR A NEW BLADE SIGN AND THE VARIANCE REQUESTED FOR THE BLADE SIGN DEPTH OF THE WALL. REQUIRES PROJECTING A BLADE SIGN SHALL NOT EXCEED MORE THAN FIVE FEET. FROM THE FACE OF THE BUILDING. AND 10 FEET IS REQUESTED. THIS IS A VARIANCE OF JUST FIVE FEET. THIS WAS HEARD BY OUR CARMEL PLANNING COMMISSION PZ 2024 0070 A.D. ELLIS. IT WAS APPROVED IN JUNE. THE BUILDING DESIGN WAS REVISED PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL. THIS IS THE ONE REMAINING ITEM FROM THAT APPROVAL. PLANNING DEPARTMENT SUPPORTS THIS VARIANCE REQUEST AND THE SIGN WILL BE SIZE APPROPRIATE LEADS UP AT THE BUILDING DESIGN AND NOT APPEAR TOO LARGE OR TOO SMALL. STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE VARIANCE REQUIRES THAT IS UNIQUE ELEMENT FOR THIS BUILDING. AND FOR CARMEL. WE RECOMMEND POSITIVE CONSIDERATION WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE FINDINGS OF FACTS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. THE FOLLOWING THIS FOR THE PAST I DON'T KNOW YEAR PLUS. YOU GUYS DID A REALLY GOOD JOB AT REVISING YOUR PLANS. SO THANK YOU. I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THIS WAS CLASSIFIED AS A SIGN GIVEN THE SIGN IS ACTUALLY -- IS IT JUST TO COVER ALL BASES? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT IS PART OF
THE BUILDING. >> WE HAVE A SIGNED SPECIALIST HERE. SHE CAN ANSWER THAT PICK
>> LISA FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. THE BLADE THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE IS CONSIDERED PART OF THE SIGN.
AND SO THAT YOU DL REQUIRES THAT BLADE TO ONLY BE FIVE FEET FROM THE BASE OF THE BUILDING. SINCE THEY ARE REQUESTING MORE EVEN THOUGH IT CARRIES THE SITE WITHIN IT THE WHOLE THING IS
CONSIDERED A SIGN. >> IT IS NOT CONSIDERED TYPE OF THE BUILDING. THANK YOU. I REALLY LIKE IT. YES GIVEN ALL OF THAT I WILL GRANT THE VARIANCE WITH ADOPTION OF THE FINDINGS OF FACTS SUBMITTED TO THE PETITIONER. THANK YOU PICK
[D. (SE) Smith Short Term Residential Rental.]
>> OKAY SMITH SHORT-TERM RESIDENTIAL RENTAL SPECIAL EXCEPTION. PETITION DOCKET NUMBER PC 202 FOR 001 FOR TWO
SP. >> I'M NOT USED TO SPEAKING IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. MY NAME IS CHRISTINE SMITH. I AM REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR TO USE MY HOME AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
MY ADDRESS IS 10791 ALLAIRE DRIVE IN CARMEL FOR 6280. AND THIS IS A HOME THAT WE'VE LIVED IN FOR MANY YEARS FOR ABOUT 11 YEARS. UNEXPECTED MEDICAL EXPENSES HAVE COME UP IN DIFFERENT HARDSHIPS. US DOING THIS IS CRUCIAL TO OUR FAMILY AND TO HELP PAY FOR OUR KIDS COLLEGE EXPENSES. AND I AM COMMITTED ON SOME OF THE CONCERNS. I NOTE MANY NEIGHBORS HAVE VOICED CONCERNS ABOUT VARIOUS MATTERS. I WANT THEM TO KNOW I AM COMMITTED TO COMPLYING WITH ALL THE CITY REGULATIONS. ENSURING THE SAFETY AND QUALITY OF THE ENTIRE RENTAL PROCESS. GUESTS WILL BE PRESCREENED AND IT WILL BE MANAGED VERY -- I WILL HAVE CLOSE OVERSIGHT. I WILL BE LIVING UP THE STREET ONLY WHEN PEOPLE STAY THERE WHICH IS A MINUTE AWAY AT A FAMILY MEMBER'S HEARTS. IT IS A THREE BEDROOM HOME AND IT CAN COMFORTABLY ACCOMMODATE FOUR PEOPLE. THERE WILL BE SECURITY FEATURES INCLUDING CAMERAS OUTSIDE THE HOME. FIRE EXTINGUISHER. PART OF THE RENTAL CONTRACTS WILL INCLUDE BACKGROUND CHECKS. NOT JUST A CREDIT CHECK. SO I KNOW THAT WAS ANOTHER CONCERN. WHO WOULD ACTUALLY BE IN THE PROPERTY. HOMEBUYING YOU DON'T DO A BACKGROUND CHECK BUT IN A RENTAL CHECK YOU DO A BACKGROUND CHECK. AND THEN SO YES THERE WILL BE ALL THINGS WILL BE PART OF THE CONTRACT INCLUDING PARKING. SORRY I'M NOT EVEN READING I'M JUST TAKING IT OUT OF MY HEAD.
PARKING WAS A BIT CONCERNED THAT WILL BE PART OF THE
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CONTRACT. NOISE PARTIES THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WILL BE PART OF THE CONTRACT. AS FAR AS NOISE CONTROL AND LEVELS OF VOLUME.SO PEOPLE WILL BE PRESCREENED SO IT GOES IN THERE. WE WILL KNOW PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO GET APPROVED IF THEY DON'T PASS THE CHECK AND I WILL STILL BE ABLE TO BEFORE THEY ARE APPROVED I WILL HAVE TOTAL CONTROL IF I EVEN APPROVED THAT PERSON EVEN IF THEY PASSED THE CHECK. BUT ANYWAY ANOTHER ISSUE THAT PEOPLE BROUGHT UP IS THEY THINK IT IS GOING TO BRING DOWN THE PROPERTY VALUES. I DID EXTENSIVE RESEARCH AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING I PUT UP GOALS AGAINST THIS THEORY. ACTUALLY THE HOME IS WELL-MAINTAINED, WHICH IT WILL BE MY HUSBAND AS A CARPENTER. HE'S A SUPERINTENDENT AND HE HAS DONE THAT FOR YEARS. THAT IS NOTHING HE CAN DO. ON TOP OF HAVING PROPERTY MANAGEMENT WORKING WITH THE COMPANY WE WILL ALSO AS A FAMILY BE DOING THIS. I'VE BEEN IN REAL ESTATE. MY HUSBAND AS A CARPENTER. MY SON DOES LANDSCAPING. SO I FEEL I HAVE ALSO HAD A CLEANING BUSINESS. WE ARE A PRETTY GOOD GROUP TO MANAGE THIS HOME. AND THEN AS FAR AS HOW IT WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. IT IS STEPS AWAY FROM THE -- CLOSE TO THE ARTS DISTRICT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PARK TO SWIM IN THE PARK.
RIGHT OFF THE TRAIL. IT IS CLOSE TO LOCAL ATTRACTIONS.
SHOPPING DINING AND ENTERTAINMENT. WHETHER PEOPLE ARE VISITING HERE JUST FOR VACATION TO CHECK OUT OUR AMAZING CITY OR THEY ARE RELOCATING HERE, MY HOUSE CAN BE A VERY NICE HOUSE WHICH IT IS PICKED WE HAVE BEEN REMODELING IT SINCE WE GOT THERE. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE ON THE INSIDE AND IT IS ALMOST DONE. IT IS A GREAT PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO STAY WHO ARE RELOCATING HERE. IT IS CLOSE TO ALL THE AMENITIES. NOT TO MENTION WE ARE LITERALLY STEPS AWAY FROM A GROCERY STORE A DRUGSTORE AND THE HOSPITAL. SO, TO HOSPITALS. SO AND AGAIN I WILL BE NEARBY PICK I WILL BE EASILY REACHABLE FOR MAINTENANCE OR GUEST NEEDS. I PLAN ON BEING A FULL SERVICE HOST. MY FAMILY AND I HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF REAL ESTATE CONSTRUCTION LANDSCAPING CUSTOMER SERVICE HOSPITALITY WHICH EQUIPS US TO MANAGE THIS PROPERLY AND EFFECTIVELY. THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN INFORMED PROPERLY. I DID FOLLOW THE PROTOCOL FOR NOTIFYING ALL MY NEIGHBORS. AND I DID POST SIGNAGE BUT I GOT THE BIGGEST SIGN I COULD AND PUT IT IN THE FRONT YARD. INITIALLY I CANNOT GET IT IN THE GROUND. THAT WAS ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I TRIED TO HIDE THE SOUND SIGN. I CANNOT GET IT AND SO MY HUSBAND GOT ME A CONSTRUCTION MALLET AND I WAS ABLE TO GET IT IN. I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT. WITH MY NEIGHBORS. AND GIVE YOU GO ABOUT THIS THE LEGAL WAY. GIVE YOU THE UTMOST TRANSPARENCY. I'VE WRITTEN LETTERS AND POSTED THE SIGN AND I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT CONSIDERATION SO YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. AND YOU KNOW THAT I WILL BE TAKING GOOD CARE OF THE PROPERTY. AND MAKING SURE THAT IT IS GOOD PEOPLE COMING IN MY HOME. IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, THERE IS ALREADY PROTOCOL SET IN PLACE FOR THAT.
WHETHER I'M WORKING WITH AIRBNB OR ALL OF THE ABOVE, PEOPLE ARE NOTIFIED. THEY NOTIFY ME. IF THERE IS EVER A PROBLEM IMMEDIATE ACTION TAKES PLACE. THERE IS NO PARKING AGAIN IN THE STREET. I KNOW SOME NEIGHBORS DO IT WE DON'T DO IT. THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IT WILL BE PART OF THE CONTRACT. AND JUST MAKING SURE THE NOISE THE SECURITY CAMERAS. SCREENING VISITORS.
MAINTENANCE. AND SO I'M NOT APPEAR THE WHOLE NIGHT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP EVERYBODY'S TIME. THE COMPLAINT THAT IT IS GOING TO LOWER THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. I FOUND ABSOLUTELY NO RESEARCH THAT MAKES THAT MAKES SENSE. I PULLED EVERYTHING FROM THE HARVARD BUSINESS REVIEW. TO THE NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH. URBAN INSTITUTE FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AND ALL STATISTICS SHOW IF THE PROPERTY IS MAINTAINED WELL AND PROPERLY, AND IT IS WELL TAKEN CARE OF AND THE HOST DOES A GOOD JOB IT RAISES THE VALUE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERYONE'S HOUSE. IT BRINGS PEOPLE IN AND IT BRINGS MONEY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND LIKE I SAID IF YOU ARE SCREENING YOUR PEOPLE, AND YOU'RE BRINGING GOOD PEOPLE THERE THEN THERE SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM. I'VE GOT IF YOU WANT TO READ IT I CAN GIVE IT TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS POSITION? OKAY.
ANYONE HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THAT ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS POSITION? RAISE THEM HIGH SO I CAN SEE. I HAVE
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TO SEE OVER JOE'S HEAD. WE HAVE SIX PEOPLE. SO, YOU CAN EACH HAVE UP TO TWO MINUTES. BUT FIRST, I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I HAVE READ EVERY SINGLE LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED EVEN THE ONE SENT THIS AFTERNOON. I'VE READ THROUGH ALL OF THEM.SO YOUR CONCERNS HAVE BEEN NOTED. AND IF YOU WOULD IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT WAS NOT IN A LETTER THAT YOU WROTE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO OR IF YOU DID NOT SUBMIT A LETTER AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD THIS IS THE TIME TO DO THAT. BUT I ASK OUT OF RESPECT TO EVERYONE IF SOMETHING HAS ALREADY BEEN DOCUMENTED IN THE LETTER, AND A LETTER OR SHARED APPEAR AT THE PODIUM, THEN PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO SHARE AS WELL. THAT WAS MY TWO MINUTES I THINK. IT WAS A LOT PICK SO IF YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND EVERYONE START LINING UP OVER THERE. WHOEVER WANTS TO GO FIRST CAN GO FIRST PICK THE NEXT PERSON GO AHEAD AND GET UP AGAINST THE WALL. YOU WILL BE NEXT. WE WILL GO THROUGH THIS
QUICKLY. >> BEFORE YOU SHARE IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND THEN JUST THE STREET YOU LIVE ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> KATHLEEN LATTIMORE I LIVE ONE STREET OVER FROM THE SMITHS. I WILL BE BEGIN BY SAYING I DID NOT KNOW UNTIL TONIGHT THAT THE SMITH FAMILY WAS MAKING THIS PETITION. I'VE HAD A VERY POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS FAMILY FOR OVER 10 YEARS. HER HUSBAND AND MY SON WERE AT THE SAME SOCCER TEAM WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER. THIS IS DIFFICULT.
I'M A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE A IN LEXINGTON FARMS. I WAS IN THE BOARD FOR OVER 10 YEARS. DURING THAT TIME I CHAIRED THE LARGEST COMMITTEES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ONE OF THEM WAS THE PLAYGROUND RENOVATION COMMITTEE AND ANOTHER WAS THE LANDSCAPING COMMITTEE. AT SOME POINTS 10% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS INVOLVED IN MY COMMITTEE. NEVER ONE SINGLE TIME DID ANYONE WHO WAS NOT A HOMEOWNER CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING TO ANY OF THOSE ENDEAVORS. SO MY MAIN CONCERN, I KNOW HER HUSBAND I KNOW HE HAS THESE SKILLS AND THEY ARE CONSIDERABLE. BUT MY CONCERN IS THE DEGRADATION OF THE QUALITY OF LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY. THE MORE WE HAVE NO RENTAL RESTRICTIONS. WE HAVE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE ILLEGALLY OPERATING AIRBNB'S. NOW SOMEONE IS ATTEMPTING TO DO IT LEGALLY. AND THIS IS DEGRADING THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER IF THEY ARE NOT HOMEOWNERS. GENERALLY SPEAKING THE RENTERS KEEP TO THEMSELVES. THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY BAD PEOPLE. I'M NOT SAYING THE PEOPLE THAT WAS STAY IN HER HOUSE ARE GOING TO DESTROY IT. I'M SAYING THEY DON'T CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY. I THINK CARMEL HAS SHOWN ITSELF TO BE VERY INTERESTED IN BEING COMMUNITY-BASED AND TO BUILD NEIGHBORHOOD STRENGTHS THROUGH
COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> AMEN TO THAT. I LIVE IN JUST
DOWN THE STREET. >> CAN WE HAVE YOUR NAME FOR
THE RECORD? >> BOB MUELLER. I LIVE JUST DOWN THE STREET UNFORTUNATELY. FROM THAT HOUSE. THERE HAS BEEN ONE INCIDENT WITH THE POLICE SHOWED UP. IT JUST IS VERY DISTURBING. WE'VE BEEN THERE 12 YEARS. IT IS A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THAT THE VALUES WILL CONTINUE TO JOB BECAUSE OF AIRBNB'S AND RENTALS. IT IS A REALLY IT IS A PROBLEM. IT IS GOING TO AFFECT EVERYONE AND THAT ON RESALES. I'M A REALTOR. IT HAPPENS. PEOPLE -- THEY WILL SEE A HOME AND SAY IT IS AN A. YES. IS THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON RENTALS IN AIRBNB'S AND WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY NO. SO THEY WON'T SEE IT. THEY WON'T WANT TO SEE IT.
THANK YOU. >> WHY DID I LIVE IN THE
SUBDIVISION AS WELL. >> WE NEED THE ACTUAL STREET
NAME. >> I'M OPPOSED TO THIS. I'M FROM MILLER BEACH. MY MOTHER STILL LIVES THERE. THERE IS DOZENS OF AIRBNB'S AROUND THERE. YES PEOPLE CAN TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY. THEY CAN HAVE THE BEST OF INTENTIONS.
WHEN THERE IS 12 PEOPLE PARTYING AT THE HOUSE AND LEAVING BEER CANS AND BOTTLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT ALL AROUND. IT HAPPENS. IT JUST HAPPENS. AND IT IS HARD TO GET AROUND IT BUT THAT JUST HAPPENS. YOU CAN DO SCREENING IN ALL KINDS OF GOOD INTENTIONS. YOU STILL END UP WITH PEOPLE PARKING IN THE STREETS AND BEER CANS AND
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BOTTLES AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS. AND HAVING PARTIES. I JUST WANTED TO VOICE THAT. APPRECIATE IT.>> NANCY TATUM. LEXINGTON DRIVE. I DID SEND IN JUST A VERY SHORT EMAIL THAT I WANT TO ELABORATE. AFTER HEARING HER SPEAK AND SHE SAID IT WOULD ADD TO THE VALUE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW. AND, ALONG WITH WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, IN ADDITION TO THAT SHE MENTIONED PART OF THE CONTRACT AND NOISE IN THINGS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT SOUNDED VERY VAGUE. IN TERMS OF THE TIME. IF IT IS MIDNIGHT CUT OFF TIME. WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RIGHT THERE THAT LIVED NEXT DOOR OR CLOSE BY? THE PARKING SITUATION WHO IS GOING TO MONITOR THAT? WHO IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT CARS LINED UP? PEOPLE THAT DO SHORT-TERM RENTALS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS EITHER. IS THAT ONE NIGHT? IT IS A WEEK AT A TIME? THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO. I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS TODAY VIA AN EMAIL SENT BY OUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY. SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE JUST NOT CLEAR. AS TO HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE MANAGED. PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING AND GOING WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. WE DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY HELLO. AND THEY ARE NOT INVESTED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY ARE THERE TO WHATEVER FOR WHATEVER REASON WHETHER IT IS TO HAVE FUN OR TO SPEND SOME TIME AS SHE SAID CHECK OUT CARMEL. BUT THAT -- THAT COULD BE A GOOD REASON TO COME HERE AND STAY. IT IS NOT GOOD FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU.
>> CARL I LIVE ON PENMAN CO. I WANTED TO ADD ON TO WHAT KATHLEEN WAS SAYING. I HAD KNOWN ABOUT ANOTHER AIRBNB I DID NOT KNOW THERE WERE TWO. THIS IS A LITTLE ALARMING THERE IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WANTS TO START IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I JUST WANTED TO ALSO ADD ON TO THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT UP. THE MEASURE OF ENFORCEMENT ONCE THEY ARE IN AND THEY ARE PARKING ON THE STREET I DON'T SEE MANY NEIGHBORS WANTING TO TAKE ON THAT MANTLE AND SAY YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK ON THE STREET. HEY YOU NEED TO TURN OFF TURN DOWN THE MUSIC. I WANTED TO ASK BECAUSE THIS WAS ALSO BROUGHT UP IN INDIANAPOLIS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAD MADE MOVEMENT TO SET UP A REGISTRY AGAINST AIRBNB'S. I THINK THE CITY OF CARMEL HAS BEEN OKAY WITH AIRBNB'S BUT THAT IS AT LEAST WHAT I WAS TOLD. WILL THESE AIRBNB'S BE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY OF CARMEL SO THERE IS A DISINCENTIVE TO NOT HAVE SO MANY OF THESE POPPING UP? THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO
ASK. THANK YOU. >> OKAY YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND. YOU HANDLED A LOT OF THE COMMENTS IN YOUR INTRODUCTION. IF YOU WOULD LIKE A COUPLE MINUTES TO RESPOND YOU
MAY GO UP TO THE MIC. >> YOU DO HAVE FIVE MINUTES
PICK >> I WILL TRY TO REMEMBER EVERYTHING. I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STUCK OUT TO ME WAS PEOPLE WERE WORRIED THAT PEOPLE WHO STAY IN THE HOME WILL NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY. BUT I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY INCLUDING OUR FAMILY THAT LOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY PROBABLY STAY TO THEMSELVES A LITTLE BIT. THEY LOVE THE PEACE AND QUIET. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH HOW I'M GOING TO TARGET MY RENTAL PEOPLE WHO WANT SOME PEACE AND QUIET AND THEY ARE GOING TO STATES OF THEMSELVES. THEY MAY NOT CONTRIBUTE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THEY ARE ONLY GOING TO BE THERE SHORT-TERM. SOMEBODY ASKED HOW LONG SHORT-TERM IMMENSE. 30 DAYS OR LESS WILL BE CONSIDERED A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. THEY WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOW COMING TO CARMEL WHETHER THEY ARE THERE FOR WORK OR VACATION OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
THEY ARE SPENDING THEIR MONEY. IT IS GOING TO INCREASE LOCAL TOURISM. IT IS GOING TO MAKE THE AREA MORE DESIRABLE PART IT IS GOING TO INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES. PEOPLE ARE SPENDING THEIR DOLLARS IN CARMEL TO COME AND VISIT OUR CITY AND ALL THE THINGS IT HAS TO OFFER. SO, WHAT ELSE? I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER. THE PARKING. I ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT. THAT
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WILL BE PART OF THE CONTRACT. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NOW THE PARK ON THE STREET. THE ONLY TIME IT BECOMES A PROBLEM IS A DISGRUNTLED NEIGHBOR WILL CALL ABOUT IT. AND SO I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY IF SOMEBODY IS ABUSING THE HOUSE RULE THEN THAT IS WHEN I WOULD HEAR ABOUT IT OR AIRBNB THE PLATFORM THEY USE. IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO ACTUALLY MAKE A PHONE CALL BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS PARKING ON THE STREET THAT IS WHEN IT WOULD GET REPORTED CAN BE A PROBLEM. JUST LIKE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE NOW IS SOMETIMES PARKED IN THE STREET. AND NOISE LEVEL THAT IS PART OF THE CONTRACT. TO KEEP NOISE DOWN. IT IS A FAMILY FROM LATE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT IS WHAT WE WILL BE ADVERTISING IT AS PER IT IS NOT A PARTY HOUSE. I'M UNAWARE OF THOSE SITUATIONS THAT HAVE GONE ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I DON'T KNOW. SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT THE AMBULANCE OR POLICE HAD COME TO OUR AREA. THANK GOD. WELFARE CHECK I APPRECIATE THEM. OUR COMMUNITY IS SAFE AND WE WILL KEEP IT THAT WAY. SO YES THEY PROBABLY -- I THINK I'M ADDRESSING EVERYTHING. PARKING, THE NOISE, AGAIN THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT COME AND I CAN SCREEN THEM THE BEST I CAN PICK I WILL REITERATE WHEN YOU HAVE A RENTAL THERE IS A BACKGROUND CHECK. YOU ARE DOING A BACKGROUND CHECK NOT JUST A CREDIT CHECK WHEN YOU BUY A HOME. YOU ARE ONLY DOING A FINANCIAL CHECK. SO PEOPLE WILL BE SCREENED. THERE IS NOT A FOOLPROOF WAY TO DO ANYTHING BUT THE FACT I WILL BE IN STATE ACTUALLY UP THE STREET, SO I WILL BE CLOSE BY.>> THANK YOU. OKAY THE DEPARTMENT REPORT PLEASE PICK
>> THANK YOU. CARMEL PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. THE PETITIONER SEEKS APPROVAL TO RENTAL ALL THE THREE BEDROOM HOME IN ORDER TO OPERATE A SHORT-TERM RESIDENTIAL RENTAL UNITS. PER OUR ZONING ORDINANCE THE RESIDENT SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPROVAL FROM THE BZ HEARING OFFICER IS REQUIRED FOR SHORT-TERM RESIDENTIAL RENTAL LOCATED IN THE R1 RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THE SUBJECT RESIDENTIAL PARCEL IS LOCATED IN LEXINGTON FARM SUBDIVISION SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES SURROUND THE SUBJECT SITE. OUR STREET PARKING IS ALLOWED HOWEVER OFFSTREET PARKING ON THE DRIVEWAY AND GARAGE IS ALSO PROVIDED BY THE PETITIONER. DEFINED SHORT-TERM RESIDENTIAL RENTAL UNIT AS A DWELLING OR PORTION THEREFORE THAT IS RENTED OR LEASED TO A TRANSIENT GUEST BY A PERMANENT RESIDENT OF THE DWELLING. FOR A PERIOD LESS THAN 30 DAYS 30 CONSECUTIVE CALENDAR DAYS. THE UGO DEFINITION OF PERMANENT RESIDENT IS A NATURAL PERSON WHO OCCUPIES A DWELLING FOR AT LEAST 60 CONSECUTIVE DAYS WITH THE INTENT TO ESTABLISH THE DWELLING OR IS HIS OR HER PRIMARY RESIDENCE. A PERMANENT RESIDENT MAY BE AN OWNER OR LEASEE. UGO SECTION 9.08 STATES SPECIAL EXCEPTION CAN BE CONSIDERED AS AN EXCEPTION TO THE USES ALLOWED UNDER THE YOU DL AND THUS THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION SHALL NOT BE GENERALLY ENTITLED TO FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION. HOWEVER IN AN APPLICATION FOR THE RENEWAL OF A SPECIAL EXCEPTION SHALL BE GENERALLY ENTITLED TO FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION. UNDER UGO SECTION 9.8 LIST CRITERIA FOR THE BASIS OF REVIEW. A HEARING OFFICER REVIEWING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION CAN SHALL CONSIDER THE NEEDS AND CIRCUMSTANCES OF EACH APPLICATION. AND SHALL EXAMINE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS AS IT RELATES TO THE PROPOSED SPECIAL EXCEPTION. ONE SURROUNDING ZONING AND LAND USE. TO ACCESS THE PUBLIC STREETS. THREE DRIVEWAY AND LOCATIONS IN RELATIONS TO OTHER SITES. FOUR PARKING LOCATION AND ARRANGEMENT. FIVE TRASH MATERIAL STORAGE. SIX NECESSARY EXTERIOR LIGHTING AND SEVEN PROTECTIVE RESTRICTION AND OR COVENANTS. ALL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE PETITIONER AND THE, CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT HAS NOT HAD ISSUES WITH THIS PROPERTY. THE DEPARTMENT COMMUNITY SERVICE RECOMMENDS CONSIDERATION OF THIS PETITION. THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE RECOMMENDS THE ADOPTION OF THE FINDINGS OF FACT IF THE PETITION IS APPROVED. PLEASE NOTE FOR THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND ANY SPECIAL EXCEPTION PETITION IF IT IS APPROVED IT IS ONLY VALID FOR ONE YEAR. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS BEFORE I SHARE WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THIS. ONE THING IS THAT IF YOU HAVE SHORT-TERM RESIDENTIAL RENTALS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT ARE NOT APPROVED THROUGH THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, WE RELY ON THE COMMUNITY TO LET US KNOW ABOUT THAT. PLEASE CONTACT THE CITY.
CODE ENFORCEMENT. THEY TRIED TO GO ONLINE AND LOOK AT AIRBNB'S AND SEE IF THERE ARE ONES POSTED THAT SHOULD NOT BE FROM
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TIME TO TIME. THEY CAN'T JUST BE ON THERE ALL THE TIME. IF YOU NOTICE IT LET OUR CITY KNOW AND THEY WILL HANDLE IT. AND THEN ALSO I THINK THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW SOME THINGS WORK IN TERMS OF NOTIFICATION AND HOW LONG SOMETHING IS APPROVED FOR. THE DIFFERENCE MAY BE BETWEEN THIS AND LIKE A PARTIAL DAY POOL. RENTAL WHICH WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN THE NEWS IS A DIFFERENT THING. BUT ALL OF THAT CAN BE FOUND IN OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK IN THAT AND LEARNED SOME OF THAT. AND THE PETITIONER JUST WANTED TO SAY THE PETITIONER DID PROPERLY NOTIFY AS REQUIRED AT THE UDO SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. HOWEVER I'M GOING TO DENY THIS PETITION. BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION THE UDO TELLS US THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THIS IS NOT GENERALLY GRANTED. ON THE FIRST REQUEST. AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO NEXT JUST TALK WITH[D. (V) Baldwin Residence Variances.]
STAFF AFTER THIS MEETING. >> MOVING ONTO THE NEXT ONE. WE HAVE ONE MORE. BALDWIN RESIDENCE. DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS A VARIANCE DOCKET PZ202 FOR 001 FOR THREE V, 001 FOR FOR V AND 001 FOR 5V. LADIES CAN YOU STEP OUTSIDE SO WE CAN FINISH OUR MEETING SO WE COULD CHAT OUT THERE? THANK
YOU. GO AHEAD. >> CHUCK BALDWIN. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. LOT FIVE WHICH IS 10367 WOODHALL LANE. WE ARE SEEKING THREE VARIANCES THAT WILL IN ESSENCE ALLOW US TO BUILD A HOME SIMILAR TO THE HOMES ALREADY IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD. >> THANK YOU. IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS PETITION? ARE RIGHT JOE PICK
>> THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. THE PETITIONER SEEKS APPROVAL FOR A NEW HOME WITH AN ATTACHED GARAGE. THE VARIANCE VARIANCES REQUESTED FOR FRONT SETBACK LOT COVER INSIDE SETBACK. FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD OF WOODHALL LANE THERE CURRENTLY EXIST A VARIANCE APPROVAL FOR 30 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK. FOR A 20 FOOT SIDE YARDS WITH DOCKETS FROM 2007. THIS SITE IS LOCATED WOODHALL LANE SUBDIVISION AND THE PETITIONER RECEIVED A APPROVAL. UDO REQUIRES VESTMENT THE BZ APPROVAL GRANTED TO ALLOW 30 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK. NOW IT'S 25 FOOT SETBACK AS REQUESTED. THIS VARIANCE IS JUST FIVE FEET. THE UDO TO ALLOW MAXIMUM 35% LOT COVERAGE AND 41% AS REQUESTED. THIS IS A VARIANCE OF 6%. THE CARMEL ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS NO CONCERNS WITH THIS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD STORM WATER DETENTION POND SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE SMALL INCREASES OF STORMWATER RUNOFF FOR THIS SITE. THE PETITIONER REQUESTED THE SIDE YARDS TO BE 6.7 FEET AT ITS NARROWEST. THE OTHER TO BE 12.2 FEET AT ITS NARROWEST WITH A TOTAL OF 18.9 FEET. THE HOUSE FLOOR PLAN IS DESIGNED TO NOT ENCROACH INTO THE TWO EASEMENTS. AT 30 FOOT WIDE REGULATED DRAINAGE RUNS ALONG THE WE ARE. 25 FOOT WIDE REGULAR THE DRAIN AND UTILITY EASEMENT RUN ALONG THE FRONT OF THE LOT. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SUPPORTS THESE VARIANCES REQUEST BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE FOR THIS CUL-DE-SAC WHICH HAS TWO EASEMENTS. THE DEPARTMENT AND COMMUNITY SERVICE RECOMMENDS POSITIVE CONSIDERATION OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE FINDINGS SUBMITTED BY THE
PETITIONER. >> THANK YOU. I DROVE BY THERE YESTERDAY. IT IS A NICE PIECE OF PROPERTY. YOU ARE JUST TUCKING IT RIGHT BACK IN THERE. IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS TOUGH TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT THE HOME THERE WITH ALL THE PRACTICALLY IT IS DIFFICULT TO DO WITH THE SHAPE OF THE LOT. BUT BECAUSE OF THAT BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION ON THE AT THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC I WILL GRANT THIS VARIANCE. WITH ADOPTION OF THE FINDINGS OF FACT SUBMITTED BY THE PETITIONER. THANK YOU PICK
>> THANK YOU. >> AND TH
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