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          CAUSE SOME THEFT ISSUES, SPECIFICALLY AN OFFICER THAT IS 
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          [Mayor’s Advisory Commission on Public Safety on November 7, 2024.]
SPEARHEADING A MOVEMENT TO DEVELOP A RETAIL THEFT PROGRAM AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE MICHIGAN ROAD CORRIDOR. HE HAS ESTABLISHED FOR YEARS NOW GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE LARGE BOX STORES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR AND SOME OTHER OUTSIDE THE BOX THINKING RELATIONSHIPS. I WON'T DIVE TOO KEEP IN THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT HE'S MAKING SIGNIFICANT STRIVES WITH THAT PROBLEM OUT THERE. OUR GOAL IS TO INCREASE THE EFFECTIVE UNIT TO WORK THAT PROBLEM. CLAY TERRACE IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE FOR US IN RETAIL THEFT. 
          WE'RE USING OUR FIRST RESPONDER PROGRAM AND DRONES TO COMBAT THAT PROBLEM AS WELL. WE HAD A PURSUIT WITH AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS ABLE TO BE CAPTURED, BUT WE USED SOME DRONES AND TECHNOLOGY TO HELP COMBAT THAT PROBLEM. AS YOU'LL SEE, AND WE'LL GET INTO THIS IN A MOMENT, THIS REPRESENTS HOW WE DISTRIBUTE OUR MANPOWER ALLOCATION. SO WE RECOGNIZE THE PATTERNS THAT WE'RE FACING. THEFT IS THE LARGEST PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IN CARMEL. THEFT IS ALL NUMBER ONE. SOME STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE IS MORE PUBLIC INFORMATION CAMPAIGNS ABOUT HOW TO NOT BE A VICTIM OF THEFT, LOCKING CAR DOORS AND NOT LEAVING VALUABLES IN SIGHT. 
          WE'LL TRY TO USE SOME TECHNOLOGIES WITH OUR REALTIME INFORMATION CENTER. OUR DRONE FIRST RESPONDER PROGRAM AND OUR POWER ALLOCATION SURROUNDS THE DISTRACTION OF THE THEFTS IN THESE AREAS. MOVING AROUND A LITTLE BIT. BURGLARIES IS THE NEXT TOPIC ON THE AGENDA. THIS HAS BEEN THE FOREFRONT OF CONVERSATION LATELY. WE HAD A FEW BURGLARIES IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN. AND THE DOTS THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP, THEY ARE NOT ALL THE BURGLARIES IN CARMEL. 
          BUT THEY REPRESENT ALL THE BURGLARIES THAT WE HAVE SINCE 2021 THAT WE CAN ATTRIBUTE TO THE SOUTH AMERICAN THEFT GROUP. 
          THE LION'S SHARE OF THAT IS IN THE BAKER DISTRICT, WHICH IS AN AREA OF MERIDIAN AND MICHIGAN ROAD AND SOUTH 116TH STREET AND NORTH OF 96TH STREET. THERE ARE SOME AFFLUENT NEIGHBORHOODS OUT THERE AND THOSE SEEM TO BE THE TARGET OF THESE BURGLARIES. 
          RIGHT NOW IS THE SEASON FOR THESE THINGS TO BE HAPPENING. 
          YOU MAY ASK WHY IS THIS THE SEASON? BELIEVE IT OR NOT IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TIME THE SUNSETS. THE BURGLARS KNOW OR THINK THEY KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE NOT MADE IT QUITE HOME TO WORK YET OR MAYBE OUT TO DINNER. SO THEY'RE EXPECTING THE HOMES TO BE EMPTY. THEY DON'T WANT TO ENTER HOMES THAT ARE OCCUPIED. SO OUR ENFORCEMENT STRATEGIES AROUND THIS, NOT JUST WITH THE COMMUNITY COLLABORATION AND SOME OF THE MESSAGING THAT WE PUT OUT. BUT WE USED TECHNOLOGY IN OUR PARTNERSHIPS TO KNOW WHEN THE GROUPS ARE MOVES STATE TO STATE. WE'LL HAVE AND ALMOST A TASK FORCE OF OFFICERS THAT WILL GO OUT IN CERTAIN TIME FRAMES AND SATURATE THE AREAS WITH GREAT NUMBERS OF OFFICERS. WHEN WE'RE HAVING THE BURGLARY PROBLEM A COUPLE WEEKS AGO ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT, WOULD HE HAVE TWO OR THREE OFFICERS IN THAT DISTRICT ON THE NIGHTS THAT WE WERE HAVING EXTRA PATROLS FOR THE AREA. WE WOULD HAVE 12 TO 15 OFFICERS OUT FOR THE WINDOWS OF TIME THAT WERE AFFECTED. THIS IS -- I'LL BE FRANK. IT IS A DIFFICULT PROBLEM TO COMBAT. BUT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO COMBAT. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CONSTANTLY TALK WITH OTHER OTHER PARTNERS WITH THE COUNTY, STATE POLICE. 
          TECHNOLOGY IS OUR BIGGEST TOOL TO HELP COMBAT THIS WITH SOME OF THE CAMERAS THAT WE MAY DISCUSS LATER ON IN THE PROGRAM. BUT THAT HAS BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET PROPERTY BACK AND PUT IT IN THE RIGHTFUL HAND OF THE OWNERS THAT ARE MISSING ITEMS. ANY QUESTIONS. 
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          >> I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF THE EDUCATION. DOES THE PUBLIC HAVE AN AWARENESS THAT WE'RE COMING UP ON THAT SEASON AND TO IT BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR WHATEVER YOU 
          THINK? >> THEY DO. WE PUT OUT MESSAGING BOTH IN OUR SOCIAL MEDIA FOOTPRINTS AND OUR HOA PARTNERS IN ALL NEIGHBORHOODS IN CARMEL. WE DID NOT JUST FOCUS ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN. NO ONE IS IMMUNE FROM THE PROBLEM. WE WANT TO EVERYBODY EQUALLY PREPARED. HAD WE KNOW THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON, WE'RE SENDING OUT MESSAGING CAMPAIGNS FOR PEOPLE TO BE AWARE. LIGHTS ON TIMERS. DON'T LEAVE KEYS IN CARS. IF YOU HAVE VALUABLES INSIDE YOUR HOME, IF YOU HAVE EXTENSIVE VALUABLES, MAYBE HAVE THEM LOCKED INSIDE OF A SAFE. WATCH OUT FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS. I HEARD SOMEONE HELP WATCH OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER. THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE TRY TO GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, YES. 
          >> ONE THING THAT I NOTICED I TAKE UBER AND LYFT A LOT. SO I PAY ATTENTION TO THE DRIVERS. THERE HAS BEEN A BIT OF A CHANGE IN CARMEL. ONE TOLD ME THIS MORNING AND IT WAS FUNNY, I WAS GOING TO A BREAKFAST MEETING. HE HAD THAT HE ONLY TAKES CUSTOMERS FROM A CERTAIN PART OF CARMEL IN A CERTAIN HOUR. IN MIND THINKS, I'M THINKING, HMMM. WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHAT ABOUT THIS PART. I PLAY DUMB AS A ROCK. I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING IT ABOUT. THERE IS AN INCREASE OF THAT IN THE DRIVERS. I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY ANY PARTICULAR -- BUT THE SOUTH AMERICAN INFLUENCE I SEE, I SEE A LOT. SOME OF THE AFRICAN INFLUENCE AS WELL. I SEE A LOT OF SOUTH AMERICAN INFLUENCE. YOU SEE THEM FOR A WHILE OR EVEN FROM ANOTHER PART OF CARIBBEAN. THERE IS LIKE A GREAT INFLUX OF DRIVERS. AND NOW THEY'RE ALL GONE. I PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. THEY'LL PUT ON THE APP, THE DRIVER IS DEAF. 
          THE DRIVER IS NOT DEAF. HE CANNOT SPEAK ENGLISH. I WATCH THAT. THE DRIVER JUST SAID THAT THIS MORNING. BECAUSE IT IS THE HOLIDAY SEASON AND THINGS INCREASE DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON I A LITTLE BIT. I NOTICED AN INCREASE FROM MY POINT OF VIEW. THAT YOU'RE RIGHT. THEY SAID WE ONLY GO TO CERTAIN AREAS NOW. THAT STRUCK ME. 
          >> THAT -- I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION OF THE DRIVER TO SEE WHAT HE MEANT WITH THAT COMMENT. 
          >> I KEEP TRACK OF HIM. >> WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO AND MAKE CLEAR THAT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE ATTRIBUTING OUR BURGLARY PROBLEMS TO THE LATINO COMMUNITY. THAT IS NOT BY NO MEANS OUR MESSAGING HERE. THIS SAT G GROUP -- THAT MAP THAT I HAVE UP THERE JUST REPRESENTS THE BURGLARIES THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ATTRIBUTE TO THAT GROUP. IT IS AN ORGANIZED GANG THAT OPERATES NATIONWIDE AND TRANSIENT IN NATURE PROBLEM. SO THEY'LL COME TO A COMMUNITY. 
          THEY'LL BE HERE FOR A WEEK. DO THEIR DAMAGE AND THEY'RE MOVING ONTO A DIFFERENT STATE OR CITY. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT AS I DIDN'T WANT TO ATTRIBUTE OUR BURGLARY PROBLEM TO THE LATINO COMMUNITY SPECIFICALLY. THE REASON THAT THIS SLIDE IS UP IS BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT PIE CHART. AND SINCE MAKING IT GENERATES A CASE NUMBER FOR THE CARMEL POLICE DEPARTMENT. IN A YEAR WE COULD HAVE 70, 80,000 CASE NUMBERS GENERATED. THE TOP FIVE INCIDENT IN CARMEL ARE ALL SELF -- ALL BUT ONE ARE SELF INITIATED ACTIVITY BY OUR OFFICERS, IF THAT IS A TRAFFIC STOP OR SECURITY CHECK AND OUR OFFICERS ARE DRIVING AROUND BUSINESSES AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAKING SURE THAT DOORS ARE LOCKED AND WINDOWS ARE NOT BROKEN. DIRECTOR PATROL MAY BE MORE AN OFFICER GETTING OUT ON FOOT AND ENTERING A BUSINESS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY AND EVENING. GOING INTO GAS STATION 
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AND DEVELOPING RELATIONSHIPS WITH ATTENDANTS THAT ARE THE EYES AND EARS OF OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL. THE BURGLAR ALARMS THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR US TO COMBAT. BUT THEY DO GENERATE A FAIR NUMBER OF CALLS FOR US AND THEY ARE BENIGN IN NATURE, GENERALLY. THAT WAS THE GOAL -- I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU HOW SELF INITIATED OR -- THE WORD ESCAPES ME, PROACTIVE WE'RE BEING IN TRYING TO COMBAT THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE FACING BOTH THEFTS, BURGLARIES AND THINGS THAT AFFECT THE COMMUNITY ON A FAIRLY REGULAR BASIS. NEXT IS PURSUITS. THIS IS WHERE WE CAN SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE TYPES OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE ENCOUNTER ON THE STREETS THESE DAYS AND THE BENEFITS OF FLOCK. 
          SO IF I WERE TO SHOW YOU SOME DATA GOING BACK TO BE -- NOTICE ON THE RIGHT, I HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHECK DIFFERENT YEARS. IN 2015, WE HAD 15 PURSUITS. AND HAVING WORK HERE FOR 25 YEAR THAT IS CORRECT NUMBER USED TO BE IN THE SINGLE DIGITS, BETWEEN 7 TO 9 PURSUITS ANNUALLY. WITH THE ADVENT OF OUR FLOCK CAMERAS AND CERTAINLY OTHER FACTORS THAT PLAY INTO THIS INCREASE, WE HAVE HAD A MARKED INCREASE IN PURSUITS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT IS PARTLY A PRODUCT, IF YOU'LL NOTICE TO THE LEFT WHAT INITIATED THAT, THE INITIATING VIOLATION FOR THAT ARE PURSUIT WAS A TRAFFIC VIOLATION. IT SHOWS US THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE IN THE COMMUNITY STOPPING VEHICLES, COMMITTING INFRACTIONS AND A PURSUIT IS KICKED UP AND INITIATED BY THE DRIVER OF THAT VEHICLE. THE NEXT MOST COMMON IS AN INVESTIGATION. SO THAT WILL BE -- I'LL TRY TO GIVE A GOOD EXAMPLE. LET'S SAY A FRAUD IN PROGRESS IN A LOCAL BANK. SOMEONE IS IN THE BANK TRYING TO CASH A FRAUDULENT CHECK. AND WE COME AND WE CATCH THEM OR LEAVING AND A PURSUIT MAY INITIATE BECAUSE OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR A SHOPLIFTING IN PROGRESS IS ANOTHER FREQUENT ONE. THIS NOBLES AVAILABLE PD, WE'LL BLAME ONE OFFICER FOR THAT. THAT IS THE OUTLINE THERE. I HINTED A LITTLE BIT AT FLOCK A MOMENT AGO. FLOCK HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THESE PURSUITS. IT'S BEEN A FANTASTIC TOOL BY VIRTUALLY EVERY MEASURE. ONE OF THE SIDE BENEFITS THAT WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE WAS THE CAPTURING THE TYPES OF INDIVIDUAL THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN STOLEN CARS. 
          THE STOLEN CARS SPECIFICALLY HAVE YIELDED QUALITY ARRESTS. 
          WE HAD TWO IN THE LAST WEEK. WE HAVE HAD THREE NOW, WHERE WE HAD TWO OF THEM ROAD-RAGE INCIDENTS THAT RESULTED IN SHOTS BEING FIRED AND THROUGH TECHNOLOGY, WE WERE ABLE TO LOCATE THE SUSPECTS OR INDIVIDUALS. WITH REGARD TO THE NEXT ONE, IT WAS A STOLEN PLATE. THAT WAS THE INITIAL CUE TO THE OFFICER. THAT YIELDED A PURSUIT ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN ON ELECTION DAY. THAT INDIVIDUAL HAD BINOCULARS IN HIS BACK SEAT, A BLACK HOOD AND SWEATSHIRT. HE WAS RECENTLY RELEASED FROM TEXAS OUT ON SOME SORT OF MONITORED RELEASE. TO THIS DATE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO HERE. BUT GIVEN THE TOOLS THAT HE HAD IN HIS CAR IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW PROACTIVE OF A TOOL FLOCK IS AND PROACTIVE IN NIGHT CATCH THESE PEOPLE COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY COMMITTING BURGLARIES. 
          >> FOR THOSE YOU DON'T AN OFFICER IS CUED BY FLOCK, CAN 
          YOU GIVE A MINI EXPLANATION? >> IT IS IS A CAMERA PLAN THAT IS TRAGEDY STRATEGICALLY IN THE CITY. AND IT WILL GET YOUR 
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LICENSE PLATE. THEY'LL GET A MESSAGE ON THE COMPUTER THAT A CAR JUST CAME THROUGH IN THE INTERSECTION AND WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AND THE POLICE OFFICERS WILL GO TO TRY TO FIND THE INDIVIDUAL DRIVING THE CAR. SOMETIMES THAT TURNS OUT TO BE BENIGN IN STATE. THE CAR MAY HAVE BEEN REPORTED STOLEN AND IT WAS NOT TAKEN OUT OF THE SYSTEM AND THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS. OR A LICENSE PLATE REPORTED STOLEN AND THE PERSON HAD NO IDEA THAT THE LICENSE PLATE WAS STOLEN. WE HAD THAT ACTUALLY, YESTERDAY. BUT THEN ON THE MORE SERIOUS VIOLATIONS, WE CAN ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS AS THE OFFICERS GET REALTIME ALERTS TO THE VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUT OF TOWN. 
          >> I WOULD GO ONE STEP FURTHER IN EXPLAINING FLOCK LICENSE IN PLATE READERS AND HOW WE USE THEM. IT USES A.I. HOW IT IDENTIFIES VEHICLES, THE PLATE IS NOT ALWAYS ACCURATE T USES THE TAILLIGHTS, THEY HAVE A UNIQUE WAY TO IDENTIFY THE TAIL LAKES IN ANY MAKE OR MODEL THAT IS IN PRODUCTION RIGHT NOW. IT HAS A 30-DAY MEMORY EVEN TESTIMONY INTERACTS WITH OUR STATE SYSTEM AND GIVES US HITS ON WANTED PLATES, WANTED PEOPLE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IS NOT CONSTANTLY FEEDING US INFORMATION UNLESS IT HITS ONE OF THOSE NCIC DECKS. THAT IS HOW WE USE IT. WHEN WE GET THE HITS, WE GET A HANDFUL A DAY, PROBABLY AND WE CAN SET UP HITS ON EVERYTHING. BUT IT FOCUSES ON THE MISDEMEANORS AND FELONIES. 
          >> WITH THAT, WE'LL SKIP AHEAD TO MENTAL HEALTH. 
          >> THE NEXT THING I WANT TO DISCUSS IS A MENTAL HEALTH BECAUSE IT IS A SENSITIVE SUBJECT AND VERY IMPORTANT ONE RIGHT NOW IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE CERTAINLY, MUCH LIKE THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED -- THE REASON THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THEFT AND BURGLARIES, CARMEL IS A VERY SAFE PLACE. VERY LOW VIOLENT CRIME AND CRIMES AGAINST PEOPLE. IT IS VERY MUCH A PROPERTY CRIME PROBLEM THAT WE'RE COMBATING RIGHT NOW. THAT IS A GOOD THING. WE CAN TAKE THE FRAUD RECORDS. BUT WE WANT TO AVOID TAKING THE VIOLENT CRIMES AGAINST PEOPLE. THE OTHER THING THAT BRADY MENTIONED IS OUR PROACTIVE, US GOING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          WHEN WE START TO SEE THE NUMBER FLIP AND BEING REACTIVE, WE KNOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND WE KNOW WE'RE NOT BEING AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS CRIME. SO I THINK THE PREVIOUS CHARTS TOLD A GOOD STORY. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE IN MENTAL HEALTH. I'M CONSIDERED IN GETTING FEEDBACK FROM YOU THAT WORK IN THE FIELD. WE HAVE A FULL-TIME MENTAL HEALTH TEAM. IT IS CALLED OUR CIU. IT IS STAFFED WITH TWO CLINICIANS AND TWO POLICE OFFICER AND THEY RESPOND TO CRITICAL INCIDENTS AND SERVE INTERNAL AS NECESSARY PAUSE IN PUBLIC SAFETY, BOTH PLACE AND FIRE, WE HAVE OUR OWN CONCERNS. 
          WE SEE A LOT OF TERRIBLE THINGS UNFORTUNATELY AND HOW WE PROCESS THOSE IS SOMETHING THEY CAN HELP US WITH. THIS CHART HERE -- WE STARTED IT AFTER 2020. HE CAN ALL DEGREE THAT THE WORLD CHANGED IN 2020 WITH COVID AND THE MENTAL HEALTH IMPACTED THE HAT ON EVERYBODY. UP TO 2023, IMMEDIATE DETENTIONS WERE ON A FAST SPEAK. WHAT WE SAW FAR IN 2024 IS A LITTLE LESSER. WOULD HE LIKE TO THINK THAT WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE. WE HAVE BETTER SUCCESS RATE THERE. OUR MENTAL HEALTH TEAM THAT GOES OUT AFTER CRISIS TYPE INCIDENTS IS MEETING WITH THOSE THAT WE RESPOND TO MORE QUICKLY IN TRYING TO CUT IT OFF BEFORE IT GETS WORSE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO 
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HEAR FROM YOU ALL WITH THAT. I WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DIVE INTO IN FUTURE FORUMS. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS FIRST MEETING AND WHAT ABOUT IT MEANS IS KIND OF LIKE HIGH LEVEL CRIME TRENDS AND ACTIVITY TRENDS AND MENTAL HEALTH IS ON TOP OF THE LIST AS WELL. I WANT TO KNOW IF WE NEED TO MORE PERSONNEL. ONE I THINK OF AT THE TOP OF THE HEAD IS THE INTERNET CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN. THAT A GROWING PROBLEM THAT WE'RE SEEING.SO WE CAN KIND OF GET REALLY SPECIFIC IF WE IDENTIFY ISSUES. 
          WE CAN DIG IN DEEPER. I WILL STOP TALKING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS TOPIC. I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY 
          DO. >> CHIEF, THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS. THE FIRST ONE IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE OUGHT TO DO AS A DESIGNATED COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER IS THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE SUPPORT THE POLICE AND POLICE AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AND DISCUSS HOW TO DO THAT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AS A MORE MATURE PROPOSAL. A FEW THINGS THAT MADE A DIFFERENCE IS THE PRO ACTIVITY. I MET WITH COLLEAGUES THAT MADE A FRONT LINE OFFICER FOR THEM IN THE MOST EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES. IT GOES IN DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT SOMEWHAT SIMILAR. A FEW OTHER VERY DEVELOPMENTS THAT COULD HELP IS HONOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS. THERE IS AN EMPHASIS ON SUPPORTING SCHOOLS AND THE SCHOOL LEADERSHIP NEEDS DECREED DATE HAPPENED. FOR OUR OWN PART, WE HAVE OPENED UP THE SAME DAY ACCESS OVER THE LAST YEAR. SO WE SEE 20 PEOPLE A WEEK IN THE CARMEL OFFICE THAT WALK IN. IS NOT TO CHECK THEIR BLOOD PRESSURE OR GET CANCER DIAGNOSED OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE DO. WE SEE THEM IN THE SECOND APPOINTMENT IN NINE DAYS. IT IS NOT JUST IMMEDIATE ACCESS, BUT FOLLOW-UP AS WELL. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HOW YOU SUPPORT YOUR FRONT LINE COLLEAGUES AND IN FOLLOWING UP WITH THE PATIENTS. THERE IS THE 988 TELEPHONE CRISIS LINE AS WELL. IT HAS HELPED SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THEIR IMMEDIATE NEED. ONE FINAL THING, WE HAVE A CRISIS MOBILE -- A MOBILE CRISIS SERVICE AS WELL. SO WE CAN RESPOND TO MANY OF OUR OWN PATIENTS BUT ALSO TO OTHERS ACROSS HAMILTON COUNTY. I CANNOT GIVE YOU THE FIGURES TODAY FOR OUR RESPONSES IN CARMEL PARTICULARLY.. I CAN GET THE NUMBERS IF YOU WANT. THIS IS THE LAST THING THAT COULD TIE IT ALL TOGETHER. THE CRISIS RESPONSE IN WHAT YOU DO IN THE FIELD OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. IS THERE A CHANCE TO IMPROVE BY CONNECTING THOSE THINGS MORE FULLY. I SAID FINALLY. SORRY. 
          WE ARE WORKING HAMILTON COUNTY LEADERSHIP AND THE SHERIFF KNOWS ABOUT THIS TO DEVELOP A CRISIS RECEIVING CENTER, A 23 HOUR PLACE OF SAFETY, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO GET INITIAL TREATMENT AND URGENT CARE TREATMENT, IF YOU WILL BUT ALSO TO DECOMPRESS AND TOP GET NAVIGATED INTO NEW SERVICES. I THINK THAT WILL BE WELCOMED. THAT IS ON THERE. BUT IT WILL BE AN ASSET FOR WILL WHOLE COMMUNITY  HAMILTON COUNTY. 
          >> IS THAT TO PROVIDE A MORE LOCAL OPTION FOR THEM AND RELIEF THE BURDEN ON LIKE THE STRESS CENTER AND OTHER 
          ENTITIES? >> IT IS, CHIEF. I'M A CLINICIAN BY BACKGROUND AND I'VE SEEN THIS IN PRACTICE. 
          PEOPLE GO INTO ACCUTE EMERGENCY ROOM. SOME PEOPLE STILL NEED TO GO INTO THE FACILITIES BECAUSE THE ACCUTENESS OF THEIR NEED. 
          NERD, THEY ARE VERY ILL. BUT THERE ARE A WHOLE GROUP OF 
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PEOPLE, INCLUDING YOUNG PEOPLE THAT HAVE THAT MOMENT OF CRISIS AND NEED A FEW HOURS TO DECOMPRESS. THEY DON'T NEED TO GO TO JAIL OR THE EMERGENCY OR AN ACCUTE PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL. 
          THAT IS THE KIND OF PLACE THAT WE'LL HAVE. WE'LL HAVE TRANSPORT TO WE CAN TAKE THEM BACK AS WELL. WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE ON BURDEN FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT. IT WILL NOT BE THE MOST ACCUSELY ILL, BUT IT WILL DEAL WITH SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT WE THINK THAT WE CAN RESPOND TO IN A RELAXED SETTING WHERE THERE IS HIGHLY EXPERT SUPPORT. I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          >> I THINK AT PREVAIL, SOME OF OUR RECENT STATISTICS 69% OF OUR POPULATION SERVED THIS YEAR, ABOUT 3200 THIS YEAR WERE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE FOR THE COUNTY. AND THEN WE DID SEE A LITTLE BIT IN THE COUNTY THIS YEAR IN SEXUAL ASSAULT. AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO SEE AN UPTICK IN THAT. THAT IS AN INTERESTING TREND TO SEE. I'D BE HAVE HAD IN DIVING INTO THAT A LITTLE DEEPER WITH SOME OF OUR CHIEFS OF MARINES WHAT YOUR TRENDS ARE SEEING. WE DO PROVIDE 24/7 CRISIS SUPPORT AND AN ADVOCATE IS ON AT NIGHT. IT IS SOMEONE WAKING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. BUT WE'RE SEEING CRISIS CALLS AND SEEING JUST CALLS WHERE PEOPLE NEED TO TALK THROUGH AND HAVE CALM THEM DOWN. IT MAY NOT BE WHAT WE CONSIDER A CHRIS, BUT A CRISIS TO THAT VICTIM AND/OR SURVIVOR. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE TREND THAT WE'RE SEEING. THE SEXUAL ASSAULT IS A LITTLE CONCERNING TO US THAT WE'RE SEEING THE UPTICK AND IT IS BRING DOMESTIC NUMBER DOWN A LITTLE BIT. I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE A JOB. BUT WE'RE SEEING THE UPTICK COUNTY WIDE. THAT IS A DEFINITE PIECE THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT. SOME OF YOU IN THE ROOM MAY KNOW THAT HAMILTON HAS A SEXUAL ASSAULT RESPONSE TEAM THAT WE COME TOGETHER ON A REGULAR BASIS. THE MEETING WAS YESTERDAY. I HAD A CONFLICT AND WAS NOT ABLE TO BE THERE. BUT IT IS A GREAT WAY FOR ALL OF OUR PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER. 
          EVERYONE COMES TOGETHER SO WE CAN COLLABORATE ON THOSE THINGS. SCHOOL COUNCILORS COME. AND WE'RE LOOKING TO REESTABLISH THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TASK FORCE. WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT BACK UP AND GOING. AND WE HAVE THE LITTLE SART. THAT IS FOR OUR CHILDREN OR MINORS UNDER THE AGE OF 18 THAT WERE AFFLICTED BY VARIOUS DIFFERENT CRIMES TO THEM AS WELL. BUT I WOULD SAY ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES THAT WE SEE IS PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR AND HAVE SOMEONE TO TALK TO. WE EXPERIENCE A REALLY UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT THIS WEEK IN OUR OFFICE. I WILL JUST SAY LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY SHOWED UP AT OUR SITE IN MINUTES, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OVER THE TOP. BUT I THINK WHEN YOU CALL AND YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE PREVAIL AND WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INCIDENT GOING ON IN THE BUILDING AND YOU HAVE ABOUT 8 DIFFERENT EMERGENCY VEHICLE PERSONNEL SHOWING UP, IT WAS WONDERFUL TO HAVE SUCH A GREAT RESPONSE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO BE THERE AND TO BE SO SUPPORTIVE OF THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS GOING THROUGH THAT MOMENT IN TIME. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO TO SUPPORT VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS IN THE COMMUNITY AND HOW WE CAN MAKE THEM FEEL SAFE, HEARD AND EMPOWERED. 
          >> WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR A LITTLE WHILE AT IDENTIFYING SOME OF THE GAPS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WORKING SPIRE WHO HAVE MADE GREAT STRIDES WITH THEIR MOBILE UNITS AND CRISIS CENTER THAT IS OPENING IN NOBLESVILLE. IT IS VERY SOON AND RIVERVIEW HOSPITAL. TO HAVE A PLACE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BRING IMMEDIATE ATTENTION AS WELL. THING THAT TIMELINE IS ABOUT TWO YEARS OUT ON HAVING THAT FACILITY UP AND RUNNING. 
          BUT I LOVE YOUR IDEA OF MAYBE BRINGING IT. I'VE HAD SOME INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS AND BRINGING PEOPLE FROM THAT GROUP IN HERE TO STRAIGHT TO EXPLAIN THAT PROCESS AND THE GAPS AND HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT BETTER 
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AND ALSO YOUR SOCIAL WORKERS HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US WITH OUR GOAL. WHEN SOMEBODY LEAVES THE JAIL, WE'RE CONNECTING YOU WITH YOUR RESOURCES SO THEY'RE MORE LIKE THIS TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE PLAN THAT THEY ARE GETTING AND USING COMMUNITY RESOURCES AND KNOWING WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE. YOUR TEAM IS FOLLOWING UP WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT. SO HOPEFULLY IS MAKING SOME 
          PROGRESS AND HELPING. >> THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE HAD A PART-TIME MOBILE INTEGRATED PROGRAM. THAT WILL GO FULL-TIME STARTING N JANUARY AND USING SOME OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS TO GET THAT STARTED. BUT CERTAINLY PARTNERING WITH CPD. 
          I THINK WE'RE CREATING A RESOURCE LIST. BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY SHOULD NOT GO TO JAIL AND THE EMERGENCY IS NOT USUALLY RIGHT PLACE EITHER. SO WHAT ARE THE OTHER PLACES THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT OR THE RESOURCES? I THINK IT IS GREAT TO CREATE SO WE CAN HAND THAT OUT AS WE'RE ENCOUNTERING THE FOLKS WHERE THEY ARE AND CONTINUE TO TACKLE THE ISSUE IN THE COUNTY. SO GREAT INFORMATION. 
          >> TWO FINAL THOUGHTS, IF I MAY? FORGIVE ME. ONE IS IN. 
          AREA OF INFORMATION SHARING. I THINK WHAT I FOUND LIVING IN CARMEL IS THERE IS A REAL AVAILABILITY OF RESOURCES. I'M WONDERING IF WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT AN OBJECTIVE FOR THIS COMMUNICATION TO MAKE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IN THE WAY THAT YOU'RE STRIVING YOUR OBJECTIVES WITH THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND THE GROUPS REPRESENTED AT THIS TABLE? THE SECOND THING IS -- IT IS IN THE CONTEXT OF CONNECTION. YOU KNOW ORGANIZATIONS LIKE SPIRE, WE ARE JUST A PUBLIC SERVICE. WE'RE NOT A FOR PROFIT ENTITY BECAUSE WE WERE DESIGNATED BY THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BE HERE AND WE'RE IN PUBLIC SERVICE. BUT WE HAVE RESOURCES THAT WE CAN MAKE AVAILABLE. AS A CLINICIAN, I'M ANXIOUS TIMES ABOUT THE CLINICIANS WORKING IN ISOLATION. THE REALITY THAT SOMETIMES DON'T GET ACCESS OF THE TRAINING AND SUPERVISION AND OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE IN A RELATIVELY LARGE ORGANIZATION LIKE SPIRE. MAYBE IT COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THEM, WE'D BE GLAD TO DO THAT. 
          ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON MENTAL HEALTH BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? THE NEXT THING THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, I THINK THE REASON THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE CITY OF CARMEL IS SO STRONG OR ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE I REALLY LOOK AT PUBLIC SAFETY AS RELATIONSHIPS. HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR COMMUNITY AND HAVING A "BUY-IN" AND HAVING FRIENDLY FACES. 
          WE'RE A GROWING COMMUNITY. WE HAVE 106,000 CITIZENS NOW. 
          WE'LL HAVE 161 POLICE OFFICERS NEXT YEAR. THAT IS CHALLENGING TO MAKE EVERYTHING FAMILIAR AND FRIENDLY FACE. BUT WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO TRY TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT WE CURRENTLY DO AND I WANT TO CALL ON THE COMMISSION TO HELP US BRAINSTORM ON NEW WAYS TO CONNECT. WE DO HOA MEETINGS ON DEMAND AND PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC SAFETY DAY THAT IS A BIG PROGRAM AS WELL AS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. WHEN I THINK OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I THINK OF OUR SRO PROGRAM. WE HAVE 21SROS. ONE IN EVERY SCHOOL AND MULTIPLE IN THE HIGH SCHOOL. AND THEY HAVE BEEN A HUGE BENEFIT TO CONNECTING WITH THE YOUTH. AND WE HAVE OUR TEEN YOUTH ACADEMIES. AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO RELEASE THE PARK RELEASE PROGRAM AND ASSIGNED TO THE PARKS AND PROGRAMMING AND DO THREAT ASSESSMENTS AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CARMEL PARK SYSTEM. WE DO CITIZENS ACADEMY. WE DO THE SAME PROGRAMS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES, HOLIDAYS FOR HEROES, SPECIAL OLYMPICS. WE HAVE A STRONG PRESENCE IN THE CARMEL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT WORK IN THE CARMEL SMALL BUSINESS NETWORK. WE PRESENT TO THEM MULTIPLE TIME A YEAR WHAT THEY CAN DO TO PROTECT THEIR HOMES AND SMALL BUSINESSES AND HOW TO BE BETTER PARTNERS. I'M CURIOUS AND THE SHARE SHERIFF 
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TALKED ABOUT GAPS. MAYBE THINGS, ESPECIALLY CAPTAIN FROM WHAT YOU SEE ACROSS THE STATE. THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD PROGRAMS OF CONNECTION AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ACROSS THE STATE. 
          ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK THAT WE COULD BE DOING BETTER. I SEE KURT HAS HIS FINGER ON THE TRIGGER. 
          >> I WAS MORE CURIOUS TO THE HOAS AND THEM AND WHEN THEY REQUEST A BRIEFING OR SOME KIND OF CRIME PREVENTION PRESENTATION. IS THAT REACHING THE APARTMENT COMMUNITY AS WELL? WHAT LEVEL OF EXPOSURE OR REACH HAVE YOU GOTTEN INTO THE 
          APARTMENT COMPLEXES? >> WE DID ONE A COUPLE YEARS AGO. THE SERGEANT HELPED SET THAT UP. I HAVE NOT BEEN IN INVOLVED IN ANY APARTMENT COMPLEX HOA TYPE MEETINGS OR COMMUNITY TYPE MEETINGS. YOU TALK ABOUT HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING, THAT IS A GREAT WAY TO GET IN FRONT OF A LOT OF 
          PEOPLE. >> 
          >> ONE THING THAT IS ON MY MIND. WE HAVE NO SOLVED THE PROBLEM, BUT THE SENIOR COMMUNITY IS SOMETHING THAT I SEE A LOT OF FRAUD AND THEFT IN THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, SCAMS AND WHAT NOT. AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITIES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. WE HAVE BEEN GOING IN WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND TRY TO PRESENT INFORMATION. BUT WE CANNOT GET TO EVERYONE. THAT HAS BEEN ON MY MIND HOW WE ENGAGE THAT SECTOR OF THE COMMUNITY A LITTLE BETTER. 
          >> A COUPLE HOUR AGO SOMEBODY FROM THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE LET ME KNOW THAT SOMEONE IS CALLS AND POSING A CHIEF STERLING, YOU NEED TO PAY THIS OR CHIEF IS GOING ARREST YOU. 
          THAT HAPPENS EVERY DAY. THE REACH DOESN'T GET TO EVERYWHERE IT NEEDS TO. THE SENIOR COMMUNITY, THEY'RE MORE VULNERABLE WHEN IT COMES TO THE STUFF BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY 
          GAP. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON TOP OF THE HRO ENGAGEMENT. THEY TEACH SAFETY CLASSES TO THE KIDS AND STOP THE BLEED. I THINK ONE OF THE REAL AFFECTIVE THING IS THEY HAVE A STRONG SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE AND THEY PUSH THAT INFORMATION OUT AND WE GOT BIGGER HITS WITH THE SHARE OF THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE. IT IS VERY POPULAR. THERE IS A EVERYONE IS GENERATION THAT IS THE KEY TO GET NOTHING 
          THEIR WORLD, REALLY. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SEE IN RURAL INDIANA THAT I DON'T SEE IN THE MORE URBAN AREAS OF METROPOLITAN INDIANAPOLIS IS THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN THE LION'S CLUB, THE ROTARY CLUB, THE KAWANIS CLUB, THE ELKS CLUB. EVERY MEETING THEY'RE ASKING FOR A POLICE MAN AND FIREMAN TO COME AND GET TO KNOW THEM ON A HUMAN BASIS. THAT MAY BE A PLACE AND WAY TO NAVIGATE INTO THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          >> CHIEF, THERE WAS A PROGRAM THAT WE USE THAT IS AFFECTIVE. 
          I KNOW THAT I'M NOT KIDDING OURSELVES HERE THAT TRAFFIC STOPS HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM OVER ON MERIDIAN WITH THE BLACK POPULATION COMING IN AND OUT OF CARMEL FOR WORK. EVERYBODY IS INNOCENT. WHEN YOU WORK IN JAILS, EVERYBODY IS INNOCENT. 
          WE HAVE A PROGRAM IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT I THINK THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTIVE. I TOLD THEM THAT I WAS GOING TO IMMEDIATE WITH THE MADAM MAYOR AND YOU ABOUT IT AND THE DEPUTY CHIEF. IT IS CALLED THROUGH MY EYES. WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE MOCK STOPS WITH A SHERIFF CAR AND YOU GET TO BE THE DEPUTY OR YOU GET TO BE THE DRIVER IN THE CAR. YOU GET TO SEE US THROUGH THE EYES OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. IT IS QUITE EYE-OPENING WHEN YOU DO IT EITHER WAY. YOU SEE WHAT THE POLICE OFFICER AND DEPUTY HAS TO BE, NUMBER ONE FIRST, THEY'RE SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE. AND WE WERE TAUGHT IN THE PROGRAM -- I'M A GOLDEN GLOVES BOXER. YOU WERE ALWAYS TOLD TO WATCH THE HANDS. AND YOU SEE THINGS. IN MY PARTICULAR EXERCISE, WE FILM IT. WE DON'T HAVE A TV STATION. WE HAVE CHANNEL 8. WE HAD THEM COME OUT. MY PARTICULAR AREA I DID 
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IT TWICE. I WAS THE DEPUTY. I WAS IN THE CAR. WHEN I WAS THE DEPUTY, I STOPPED A -- I STOPPED A BLACK GUY. HE WAS TRYING TO BE MOUTHY. BUT HE HAD A KID IN THE FRONT SEAT THAT WAS UNRULY. THEY TAUGHT US HOW TO LOOK AND STAND. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW, WHEN YOU STOPPED HIM, A LOT OF TIME THEY ARE BY THEIR GRANDMOTHER'S AND MOTHER'S HOUSES AND THERE IS LIKE A THOUSAND PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE HOUSE AT THE POLICE OFFICER. WOW! I DIDN'T KNOW A POLICE OFFICER GOES THROUGH THERE AND THEY PLAY BACK TO SEE NSTIGATED THAT AS THE DEPUTY  TRIES HIM OR HER DISCOVER A PROBABLE CAUSE TO ARREST OR NOT TO ARREST. SOMETHING I FOUND AFFECTIVE THAT THEY WANT TO DO IT MORE AND SPREAD IT OUT HERE, BUT THAT IS ONE FACTION. BUT WHEN YOU GO THROUGH IT -- THEN WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR STOPS YOU, DID YOU GET BACK IN YOUR UNIT AND OFF TO A SEXUAL ASSAULT CASE WITH A BABY OR CHILD OR OFF TO A ROBBERY, A BURGLARY. THEY TRAIN YOU HOW THE OFFICER HAS TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THAT IN A MATTER OF LITERALLY SECONDS. 
          LIFE SPLIT SECOND. YOU DON'T REALIZE THAT TILL YOU SEE WHAT YOU MEN AND WOMEN DO. IT WAS GOOD. LIKE STRENGTHEN UP, BROTHER, YOU KNOW YOU'RE WRONG. THE MOUTH. EVERYBODY IS INNOCENT. BUT IT IS A GREAT EXERCISE. I DON'T MEAN TO MINIMIZE IN A WAY THE SPLIT SECOND YOU HAVE TO DO THIS. AND WE HAD TO DO IT AT NIGHT, SHERIFF. THAT IS REALLY DANGEROUS. THAT GETS DANGEROUS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO MORE OF THE TRAINING AND GET YOUNGER KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS TO GO THROUGH ALSO TO SEE IT. THERE IS A MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT OF THAT AS WELL. SO ALL OF THAT IS THROUGH YOUR EYES. IF I CAN HELP COORDINATE THAT, MADAM MAYOR AND CHIEF, I WILL. I GOT 
          PERMISSION TO DO THAT. >> TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU SAID, WE STARTED DOING THAT AT OUR SCHOOLS AT HAMILTON HEIGHTS WITH THE MOCK STOPS WITH THE STUDENT SO THEY KNOW HOW TO ACT. THAT REALLY BUILT SOME RELATIONSHIPS THERE. THAT MIGHT 
          BE A GOOD THING TO ADD. >> I WOULD ADD ONE OTHER TOPIC TO THAT, THIS IS ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PHYSICAL SORTS OF THINGS, THEFT BURGLARY, MENTAL HEALTH AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. AN OBVIOUS ONE IS THE CYBER SIDE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY. BUT THAT SAFETY CAN ALSO BE IMPACTED ON THE CYBER SIDE. AND THAT CONTINUES TO GET MORE AND MORE SIGNIFICANT. I KNOW ALL OF US KNOW THAT. IT IS A WAY TO SEPARATE OURSELVES AND SEPARATE OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF WHAT IS CARMEL DOING IN TERMS TO ADDRESS THAT SIDE OF THINGS AS WELL AND TRY TO -- IT IS ABOUT HOW DO YOU ENGAGEMENT AND HOW DO YOU INFORM AND REACH ALL OF THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR GREAT PROGRAMS? THAT IS WHERE IT GETS CREATIVE. ONE THING IS DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE TO SAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REACH SOME. SO WE'RE GETTING THAT FAR. BUT HOW FAR CAN WE GO TO REACH THEM. I THINK THAT IS THE BIG THING. JOEL AND I HAD THE LUXURY ON BEING ON THE GOVERNOR'S COUNCIL ABOUT CYBERSECURITY. A LOT OF CONTENT WAS DEVELOPED FOR CUSTOMERS AND CITIZENS THERE. WE'RE A TARGET FOR NATION STATE ACTORS, SOME OF THE WORST ACTORS IN THE CYBER SPACE. WE DO A LOT WITH A NUMBER OF GOVERNMENT AGENCIES ON THE CLASSIFIED AN UNCLASSIFIED SIDE. WE JUST HAD THE NATIONAL CYBERSECURITY AWARENESS MONTH. WE DID A NUMBER OF BRIEFINGS TO OUR PEOPLE. A LOT OF IT FOCUSED ON THEM BEING EMPLOYEES AT AN ENERGY COMPANY AND WHY THEY'RE TARGETS. WE HAD THE BRIEFINGS ON THEM AS INDIVIDUALS AND HOW THEY ARE TARGETS AT HOME AS WELL. EVERY ONE OF US IN THIS ROOM ARE TARGETS OF THOSE FOLKS. PROBABLY A NUMBER OF US DON'T REAL THAT OUR SYSTEMS AT HOME AND NETWORKS WITH ARE BEING USED BY SOME OF THE BACK 
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ACTORS. I THINK THERE IS SOME GOOD CONTENT OUT THERE. WE GOT SOME CONTENT. I WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE AGENCIES. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PUT TOGETHER COLLECTIVELY AND IMPACT WHO WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHATEVER WE'RE PUTTING OUT 
          THERE. >>> TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOCUS ON 2025. WE'RE GOING TO DO REGULAR, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT DETERMINE THE CASE DANCE YET, COMMUNITY ZOOM CALLS AND WE'LL MAKE THEM LIKE A ZOOM MEETING AND PEOPLE CAN CALL IN AND A TOPIC IS PRESENTED, SHORT AND SWEET, RECORDED AND PUSHED OUT ON SOCIAL AND OUR WEB. IT MIGHT BE CYBERSECURITY FOR SENIORS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. AS YOU THINK OF CONTENT, WE'LL JUST PLUG IN. I'D LIKE TO KEEP THEM SHORT ENOUGH, MAYBE 20 MINUTES, 30 MINUTES OR 30 WITH QUESTIONS IF PEOPLE ENGAGE SO WE CAN PUSH THEM EVERY WEEK. BUT WE'LL WALK BEFORE WE RUN THERE. AND THE OTHER THING, I HAVE NOT FIGURED OUT A FANCY NAME LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD TAKEOVER, POLICE AND FIRE WILL BE THE BIGGEST HITS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UNLESS WE HAVE MASCOTS AND CANDY. WE'RE JUST DROPPING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD OVER BROOK FARMS. COME IN AND HAVE A PROGRAM. BUT IT SCHEDULED BUT IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SHORT NOTICE IT SEEMS LIKE A LITTLE MORE FUN. THE OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE AND RELATIONSHIPS AND INITIATE. IF YOU WANT TOP PROGRAM ANY OF THAT OR HELP US TARGET NEIGHBORHOODS TO GO INTO, WE WOULD LOVE THAT FEEDBACK. I HAVE TO LEAVE A LITTLE EARLY. THANK ALL YOU ARE DOING TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY 
          SAFE. I VALUE ALL OF YOU. >> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? WE'RE LIN-NING UP GOOD FOR OUR 5:30 DEADLINE. A COUPLE OF THINGS BEFORE WE BREAK. I HAD INITIALLY PLANNED -- WHEN I SENT OUT THE INVITATION TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU, I TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE MAY MEET BUY ANNUALLY OR QUARTERLY. BUT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MEET AS NEEDED AS ISSUES ARISE. IF WE WERE TO HAVE SOMETHING CONTROVERSIAL HAPPEN IN THE COMMUNITY OR NATIONWIDE THAT MAYBE THERE IS A THE SPOTLIGHT ON PUBLIC SAFETY, WE CAN GATHER AND COME UP WITH SOME WAYS TO ADDRESS IT OR TO LOOK AT IT FROM CARMEL'S PERSPECTIVE. BUT I LOOKED AT THE WEEK OF MARCH 10TH AS WE SIT HERE THERE, IS SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE AND POWER IN THIS GROUP THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO HEAR FROM SOME OF US VERY MUCH. MAYBE YOU'RE LIKE ME AND YOU LIKE SIT BACK AND THINK ABOUT THINGS AND PROCESS THEM. BUT I KNOW THERE IS SO MUCH MORE THAT WE COULD TAP INTO HERE. IS THERE ANY 
          IDEAS ON CADENCE MUCH MEETINGS? >> I THOUGHT BUY BIANNUAL MAY BE DIFFICULT TO ACCOMPLISHMENT. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE IS HERE CAN'T AND SERVE HOWEVER THEY CAN. SO I THINK QUARTERLY IS MORE CONDUCIVE TO ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING SOMETHING. 
          >> I WOULD AGREE. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT. 
          SO QUARTERLY. SO IF I'M LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR, WE WOULD BE SOMETIME AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, MAYBE LATE JANUARY. DOES THAT POSE ANY SIGNIFICANT ISSUES IF WE LOOKED AT THE WEEK OF THE 20TH ? MAYBE THE 23RD. SHOULD WE KEEP A THURSDAY CADENCE IF THAT WORKS. THURSDAY AFTERNOON AROUND THIS TIME. IT LOOKS LIKE WE WERE ABLE TO GET AGENT. 
          >> 4:00 GOOD. SO YOU CAN GET THROUGH YOUR DAILY MEETINGS AND END IT WITH THIS. SO WE'LL PLAN ON JANUARY 23RD, 4:00 P.M. 
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ANY CLOSING THOUGHTS? I KNOW WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO PROCESS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE TOUCHED ON. BUT WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DIVE INTO ANYTHING REALLY DEEP. OVERTIME MAKE WE CAN COMMUNICATE THROUGH E-MAIL THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON THE AGENDA. ANY CLOSING THOUGHTS ON CONTENT OR AGENDA 
          ITEMS FOR THE FUTURE? >> WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TIMING, QUART MATERIALLY WOULD BE BETTER. I THINK IT WOULD BE STAGNATE IF WE WAITED TOO LONG TO HAVE MEETINGS AND WANT TO BE IMPACTFUL. THE DATES, ARE THERE ANY MILESTONES OR CRITICAL TIME PERIODS FOR YOU ALL IN TERMS OF BUDGETING OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT HE WE NEED TO WORK AROUND THAT SCHEDULE THAT YOU WOULD NEED INPUT ON SOME POTENTIAL TOPIC AHEAD OF SOMETHING? I'M THROWING THAT OUT THERE SO TRY 
          TO WORK AROUND YOUR CADENCE. >> I THINK -- WE BUDGET BEGINNING IN JUNE AND WE GO THROUGH OCTOBER. OUR BUDGET IS DUE BY OCTOBER 31ST EACH YEAR. ANY CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT MIGHT HAVE A FINANCIAL IMPACT ARE GO TO HAVE BEFORE THAT JUNE/JULY TIMELINE. SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A COUPLE MEETINGS BEFORE THEN. EYE ELECTION DAY WAS THIS WEEK. WE ACTIVATE THE THE EOC AND WE WERE PRETTY AGGRESSIVELY PREPARED, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. LUCKILY, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY. MAYBE THAT SEASON AN OPTION TO TRY TO GET A MEETING 
          IN THE FALL, AS WELL. >> I THINK MAYBE TO YOUR POINT, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY KICKS OFF THIS YEAR. IT WILL BE A BUDGET YEAR FOR THE STATE. WITH THE NEW COVER COMING IN AND WHAT TYPE OF INITIATIVES AND PUBLIC SAFETY-WISE AND FUNDING THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO WATCH. AND THAT MAY NEED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL THAT THIS THE GROUP COULD ASSIST WITH. SO I THINK THAT TIME  -- AFTER JANUARY 23RD, WE'LL HAVE AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE BILLS AND THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THERE THAT COULD IMPACT PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND 
          WATCH AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON. >> I THINK ANYTIME LIKE YOU MENTIONED, PREPARATIONS THAT YOU'RE MAKING AHEAD OF THE ELECTIONS AND ALL OF THAT, I THINK THAT IS SO REASSURING TO THE PUBLIC AND THE RESIDENTS THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES AND TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE AT WORK DOING THOSE SORTS OF THINGS IS AWE SO AWESOME MESSAGING. WE WITH A BE ABLE TO PUSH THAT OUT THROUGH OUR ORGANIZATIONS AND SOCIAL MEDIA TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY IS LOOKING LIKE AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW AND THAT SORT OF 
          THING. >> YES. THAT MADE ME THINK OF BRADLEY, THE PREPARATION THAT WE HAD IN THE LEADUP TO OCTOBER 7TH BEING AN IMPORTANT THING IN THE JEWISH COMMUNITY AND WE'RE TRYING TO IT BE MINDFUL OF THOSE AND PREPARE ACCORDINGLY. 
          WE'RE TAKING THIS STUFF SERIOUSLY AND PREPARING IS A 
          GOOD CONTENT TO SHARE. >> I HATE TO TALK SO MUCH. 
          SORRY. ONE THING I'M KIND OF THINKING OF THAT IS UNPRECEDENTED. WE HAVE HAVE ACCESS TO A POLICE CHIEF. WE HAVE ACCESS TO A FIRE CHIEF. WE HAVE ACCESS TO A SHERIFF. THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED. SO LIKE TO SEE IF SOMETHING COMES UP BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY 23RD, IF WE HAVE HAVE A VEHICLE THAT WE CAN CONTACT YOU ALL SOME KEEP OF WAY. I'M POST 21. IS THERE A VEHICLE THAT WE CAN HAVE? YOU HAVE BEEN HIGHLY ACCESSIBLE. IT IS UNUSUAL. SHERIFF, CAN WE GO BACK IN I'M IN HAMPTON COUNTY, STOP IN AND SAY HELLO. I WAS AT YOUR SWEARING IN. IF WE CAN HAVE THAT VEHICLE AVAILABLE BECAUSE THINGS DO COME UP THAT WE TONIGHT WANT TO WAIT. I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE DATE IN JANUARY. BUT THAT IS A MONTH OR 
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TWO AWAY. SO MAYBE A VEHICLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER OR THE CHIEF MYERS CAN GO BACK AND SAVE MY BUTT IN INDIANAPOLIS AND BACK OUT HERE. I NEED A RIDE BACK OUT. THE CHIEF GAVE ME A RIDE. WE TALKED ABOUT A MANNER THE WAY IT WAS HANDLED. 
          I THINK THE CRITICAL LINES OF COMMUNICATE RATHER THAN TO WAIT. THIS IS NOVEMBER 7TH. SO WE HAVE A VEHICLE THAT WE COULD TO COMMUNICATE SOME SOME KIND OF WAY. 
          >> 100%. EVERYBODY AT THIS TABLE LIKE MYSELF, I'LL GIVE YOU MY CELL OR E-MAIL. I LOOK AT IT LIKE A CITY COUNCIL, YOU HAVE CONSTITUENTS AS WELL AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT GO TO YOU FOR YOUR EXPERTISE. AS YOU GO BACK AND HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PEOPLE THAT YOU WORK WITH ON A DAILY BASIS, BRING THOSE TO ME AND I CAN HELP ADD THEM TO THE AGENDA FOR FUTURE MEETINGS OR IF THEY NEED TO IT BE ADDRESSED MORE TIME BASED DO THAT TOO. THESE ARE COMMUNITY LEADERS SITTING HERE AND THAT IS PART OF OUR ROLE. 
          >> I JUST WANTED TO ADD, I WROTE DOWN THREE TASKS THAT I'M WALKING AWAY FROM TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO GET TOGETHER WITH SPIRE AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN PROVIDE WELLNESS HEALTH TO OUR STAFF WHO STRUGGLE ON A REGULAR BASIS. I'M GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE CARMEL PARKS DEPARTMENT WE LIKE TO PUT CARDS IN THE RESTROOMS SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO DO IN THE EVENT OF A SEXUAL ASSAULT OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION. AND I'M GOING GET YOU INFORMATION ON VICTIMS' CRIME WEEK AND HOW WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT IN 
          APRIL. >> ALL RIGHT. IF THERE ARE KNOW OTHER THOUGHTS. I KNOW WE'LL BREAK. WE HAVE TO SIGN SOME OATHS BEFORE WE LEAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS GROUP AND THE POWER THAT -- THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE AND THE POWER THAT CAN WITH BE ALL OF YOU. I'M HONORED TO SERVE
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