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>>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE JANUARY 21, 2025, PLAN COMMISSION.
WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF S, LADIES AND GENTLEMENANCE? OF ALLEGIANCE?
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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, RICK. BEFORE I DECLARE A QUORUM, WE HAVE THREE BRAND NEW MEMBERS SO WELCOME TO OUR NEW MEMBERS.
I NEED CONFIRMATION. HAVE THEY TAKEN THEIR OATH? HAVE THEY BEEN SWORN IN? IF NOT, WE CAN MOVE IT.
>> I SIGNED A PAPER LAST WEEK. OKAY.
SO WE NEED TO SWEAR IN JONATHAN AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THE HONORS OR --
>> I HAVE NOT DONE THAT BEFORE. SO JUST IN CASE, I THINK I DID BRING IT WITH ME, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THIS IF I CAN FIND IT.
HOLD ON. I'M ASSUMING IT'S THE SAMESAME FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONS?
>> I'M VERY PREPARED JUST IN CASE.
REPEAT AFTER ME. I, STATE YOUR NAME.
OATH. >> BEING DUELLY SWORN UPON MY
OATH. >> STATE THEY WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION OF
INDIANA. >> I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE INDIANA.
>> I AM A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF HAMILTON COUNTY, INDIANA.
>> AND I WILL FAITHFULLY DISRJ CHA CHARGE THE DUTIES OF THE PLAN COMMISSION -- SORRY, LET ME REPEAT.
THEY WILL FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE CARMEL PLANT COMMISSION.
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>> SO HELP ME GOD. CONGRATULATIONS.
YOU ARE OFFICIALLY SWORN IN. WE NOW HAVE THE
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QUORUM. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. I WILL TABLE THAT UNTIL OUR FEBRUARY MEETING IN CASE WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT[G. Reports, Announcements & Department Concerns]
WILL ABSTAIN FROM JUST THAT ONE ITEM, AND WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THE ORDER AROUND JUST A LITTLE BIT AND MOVE UP THE ELECTION OF THE OFFICERS TO HANDLE THAT ADMINISTRATIVE PIECE NOW SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON WITH THE SUBSTANCE OF THE MEETING. SO WE WILL START WITH ELECTION OF THE PRESIDENT.>> MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE TO ELECT THE ELECTION OF OUR PRESIDENT AND YOU, CHRISTINE ZAKOLA.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS.
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE NOMINATIONS?
>> HEARING NOW. WE'LL NOW VOTE FOR ME AS PRESIDENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? >> HEARING NONE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE, AND I'M HONORED TO SERVE. NEXT IS ELECTION OF VICE PRESIDENT. DO I HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS?
>> MADAM PRESIDENT, MAY I PLEASE -- I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO ELECT JEFF HILL AS VICE PRESIDENT.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION. SECOND? IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE
NOMINATIONS? >> MOTION TO CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS.
>> THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE NOMINATIONS PLEASE SAY AYE.
>> HEARING NONE. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY
>> ANY OPPOSED? CONGRATULATIONS IF YOU CAN HEAR US, YOU'VE BEEN ELECTED VICE
>> NEXT UP IS ELECTION OF A MEMBER TO THE BOARD OF ZONING
APPEALS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE YOU YET AGAIN TO THE BZA.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS?
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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE NOMINATIONS PLEASE SAY AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE WE'LL NOW VOTE FOR ME TO BE THE PLAN COMMISSIONER OF THE BZA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE THAT.
WE HAVE A BZA MEMBER HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU, LEAH. NEXT IS THE ELECTION OF A MEMBER TO OUR HAMILTON COUNTY PLANPLAN COMMISSION.
THIS, WE APPOINT OR ELECT A MEMBER TO SERVE ON THE HILTON COUNTY PLAN COMMISSION AND IT'S A NON- VOTING ADVISORY, AND I NEED A NOMINATION.
>> MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE DEBBIE BUCKLER.
>> DO YOU ACCEPT THIS NOMINATION BEFORE WE MOVE ON?
>> WELL, MY EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST IS IT DOESN'T ENTAIL A LOT.
ADVISORY. YOU DON'T HAVE A VOTE.
>> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE
THE NOMINATIONS. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE NOMINATIONS, PLEASE SAY AYE.
THE HAMILTON COUNTY PLANNED COMMISSION.
>> HEARING NONE, YOU WILL REPRESENT US ON THE HAMILTON COUNTY PLAN COMMISSION.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. THE LAST ELECTED POSITION IS THE PRESIDENT, THE VICE PRESIDENT AND THE CHAIR OF THE RESIDENTIAL COMMITTEE AND THE CHAIR OF THE COMMERCIAL COMMITTEE AND ONE AT-LARGE MEMBER AND SO I NEED A
NOMINATION. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOTION THAT -- EXCUSE ME, I MOVE -- THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING ME, I MOVE THAT WE ELECT SUE WESTERMEYER AS OUR AT- LARGE PLAN COMMISSION MEMBER.
>> FANTASTIC. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE
NOMINATION? >> MOTION TO CLOSED
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL THOSE IN FIFE ARE FAVOR OF CLOSING THE
>> HEARING NONE WE ELECT SUE WESTERMEYER.
>> SUE IF YOU'RE WATCHING AT HOME, YOU'VE NOW BEEN ELECTED TO SERVE AS OUR MEMBER AT- LARGE AND AS PRESIDENT I CAN APPOINT OUR TWO CO-CHAIRPERSONS, AND WE HAVE A COMBINED RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL COMMITTEE. SO OUR TWO CO- CHAIRPERSONS WILL BE SUE WESTERMEYER WILL SERVE AS CHAIR FOR THE COMMITTEE AND ADAM CAMPANNIA WILL SERVE AS CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ADAM, FOR
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SERVING. AND THANK YOU, SUE, IF YOU'RE WATCHING. SO THAT CONCLUDES THIS ADMINISTRATIVE PIECE AND SO NOW WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO THE SUBSTANCE OF OUR MEETING AND WE'RE GOING TO START WITH COMMUNICATION BILLS, EXPENDITURES AND LEGAL COUNCIL REPORT, AND I SEE THAT WE'VE GOT TWO PC RESOLUTIONS SO I'LL READ THEM BOTH INTO RECORD, AND DIRECTOR MITTUSKEY WILL YOU BE PRESENTING THEM.FOR THE RECORD WE HAVE PC-1-21-21A AND CRC RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-11. THIS ONE DESIGNATES AN AREA KNOWN AS CLAY TERRACE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA.
HAS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA PURSUANT TO SECTION 41 OF INDIANA CODE 36-7-14 AND APPROVES AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA.
THE SECOND PC RESOLUTION IS PC-1-21- 25B CRC RESOLUTION NUMBER 2124-12 THIS IS B.J.
'S WHOLESALE ECONOMIC AREA. IT HAS AN AREA OF PURSUANT TO 36-7-14 AND APPROVES AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA. DIRECTOR "MCTUSKY, THE FLOORFLOOR IS
YOURS. >> I AM THE REDEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. BEFORE I TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC TWO AREAS IN FRONT OF THE PLAN COMMISSION TODAY WE HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS AND THERE ARE ALWAYS NEW PEOPLE WATCHING AND SO I WANT TO TAKE A SECOND AND TALK ABOUT WHAT ALLOCATION AREAS ARE GENERALLY AND HOW THEY INTERACT WITH THE PLAN COMMISSION. ALLOCATION AREAS ARE RELATED TO TAX INCREMENT FINANCING OR TIF.
TIF ALLOWS YOU TO CAPTURE FUTURE TAXES FROM A NEW PROJECT ON A PARCEL OF PROPERTY. GENERALLY, TIF QUESTIONS ARE CITY COUNCIL QUESTIONS. THEY'RE USUALLY FINANCIAL QUESTIONS SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMISSION HAVE PURVIEW OVER.
OBVIOUSLY THE REDEVELOPMENT AND PLAN COMMISSION WORK TOGETHER ON THE PHYSICAL, BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING SIDE OF IT. IN ORDER FOR A PARCEL TO CAPTURE TAXES TO PAY OVER ON A TIF BOND THAT COUNCIL ALLOWS, YOU HAVE TO CREATE AN ALLOCATION AREA UNDER
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STATE CODE. AN ALLOCATION AREA ESSENTIALLY IS A PARCEL OR COMBINATION OF PARCEL THAT NOW CAPTURED TAXES AND PAYS THEM OVER TO WHATEVER THE TIF IS OBLIGATED FOR.>> THIS IS A MOMENT WHERE A PLAN COMMISSION KIND OF INTERACTS WITH A FINANCIAL PROCESS BECAUSE UNDER STATE CODE FOR AN ALLOCATION AREA TO BE CREATED IT FIRST HAS TO PASS AT THREE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION STAGE AND THEN IS GOES HERE TO THE PLAN COMMISSION AND THEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL WHICH IS REALLY THE POINT AT WHICH A DECISION IS MADE TO CREATE THE ALLOCATION AREA BECAUSE THAT'S THE BIG VOTE AND PROCEDURALLY GOES BACK TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COALITION.
SO TRADITIONALLY ACCIDENTALCATION AREAS COME UP TO THE PLAN COMMISSION AND ALMOST UNIVERSALLY ARE ADMINISTRATIVELY VOTED ON AND GET SENT TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S ALLOCATION AREAS GENERALLY.
SO I WANT TO TALK FOR A SECOND ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC, TWO SPECIFIC UPCOMING ALLOCATION AREAS.
THESE ARE RELATED TO, YOU MIGHT HAVE READ IN THE NEWS, BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY RELATED TO CLAY TERRACE. CLAY TERRACE ORIGINALLY, THESE ARE ALLOCATION AREAS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED IN 2000.
BACK THEN THE WEST SIDE WAS IN THE CITY OF CARMEL WHERE CLAY TERRACE IS TODAY AND THE EAST SIDE WHERE LOWE'S IS TODAY WAS UNINCORPORATED HAMLIN COUNTY AND THIS IS ALL SUBJECT TO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ESSENTIALLY CONTROL THESE TWO TIF AREAS. THERE IS A LAW IN THE STATE THAT DOES NOT ALLOW, NOW THAT THIS IS ALL THE CITY, THERE IS A LAW IN THE STATE THAT DOES NOT ALLOW A LOCAL ENTITY TO FORM A TIF AREA OVER ANOTHER TIF AREA FORMED BY ANOTHER AREA.
SO THE CITY CANNOT HAVE A PANCAKE TIF OVER THE COUNTY. THOSE COUNTY ALLOCATION AREAS WOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH 2030 WHICH MADE IT TOUGHER TO DO A PROJECT.
SO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AT THEIR COMMISSIONER'S COUNCIL LEVEL AND BY OUR CITY COUNCIL AND REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION ESSENTIALLY CUTS OUT TWO NEW AREAS AND A SMALL AREA PART OF THE WEST AND THIS IS THE CLAY TERRACE ALLOCATION AREA THAT IS UP BEFORE YOU, AND A SMALL PORTION OF THE EAST. THIS IS THE B. J. 'S WHOLESALE ALLOCATION AREA THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY AND THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AFTER WARD WILL PASS A RESOLUTION THAT DEDICATES FOR THE INTERLOCAL 5% OF ANYTHING FROM THE WEST SIDE AND 100% OF ANYTHING FROM THE EAST SIDE TO THE COUNTY.
THIS WILL ENABLE OUR CITY TO DO A PROJECT THERE WITH 95% OF THE TIF AS A STARTING POINT. SO THIS HAS GONE THROUGH EVERY STEP AND THE ALLOCATION AREAS ARE HERE BEFORE YOU, BEFORE THEY GO HOPEFULLY WITH YOUR AGREEMENT TO THE EARLY FEBRUARY COUNCIL MEETING. WITH THAT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ALLOCATION AREAS OR THESE SPECIFICALLY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M ASSUMING, THE STAFF, DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS YOU WANT TO ADD? NO? I'LL OPEN UP TO THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE PLAN COMMISSIONERS? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I MOVE -- CAN WE DO BOTH TOGETHER, COUNSEL?
>> IF CROWE CAN TAKE THEM SEPARATELY THAT WOULD BE PREFERABLE.
>> I MOVE ADOPTION OF THE FIRST RESOLUTION FOR
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS RESOLUTION PLEASE SAY AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE, THIS ONE WILL GO ON WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
>> MADAM CHASHGS I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE PC RESOLUTION 1-21-B.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS RESOLUTION PLEASE SAY AYE.
THIS WILL GO ON AS WELL WITH THE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DIRECTOR MATUSKY. WE WILL HAVE REPORTS ANNOUNCEMENTS AND DEPARTMENT CONCERNS.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD.
>> I JUST WANTED TO DRIVE YOUR ATTENTION TO THE AGENDA.
THE CLAY COTTAGES REZONE IS WITHDRAWN AND WILL NOT BE MOVING FORWARD AND ALSO ITEM 3 ON THE AGENDA WAS TABLED AND THAT IS FOR U.S. HAD ONE AND THEY
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DO PLAN TO COME TO THE FEBRUARY MEETING, INSTEAD.>> WE HAVE A LITTLE BONUS DEPARTMENT CONCERN TONIGHT, TOO. EVERY YEAR, DOCS HAS A WORK SHOP WHERE WE CONVENE WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE PLAN COMMISSION AND MEMBERS OF THE BCA AND THE ISSUES AND ITEMS AND MAKE IT EDUCATIONAL AND WE'VE SET A DATE FOR MARCH THE 8TH AND SATURDAY MARCH THE TH AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO JOT THAT DOWN, BUT KEEP YOUR EYE ON YOUR EMAILS AND WE'LL SEND OUT A SAVE THE DATE AND START FINALIZING THAT AGENDA FOR THAT DAY, BUT ANYWAY, WE WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE HAVING AS MANY MEMBERS ATTEND THAT DAY AS
[H.2. Docket No. PZ-2024-00221 PUD: Jackson's Grant Village - Phase II.]
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THEY ARE ALWAYS WORTHWHILE WORK SHOPS SO THANK YOU, WE'LL GET THAT ON OUR CALENDAR. SO NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR MEETING. OUR RULES FOR PROCEDURE FOR PUBLIC HEAR SUGGESTS THAT THE PETITIONER WILL HAVE 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR PETITION AND WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO COMMENTS AND THERE WILL BE 20 MINUTES ALLOTTED TO COMMENTS WHETHER IT'S IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION TO THE PETITION, AND THE PETITION WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL AND AFTER THE REBUTTAL WE WILL TURN TO THE DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR COMMENTS.
UPON THE CONCLUSIONCONCLUSION OF COMMENTS THAT CLOSES THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN THE COMMISSIONER WILL ENGAGE IN OUR CONVERSATION. WE'LL START WITH, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT AND THAT'S DOCKET NUMBER PZ-20-24- 00221 PUD JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE PHASE 2. THE APPLICANT SEEKS APPROVAL FOR A RESIDENTIAL LOT FOR A NEW TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT INTO THE SURROUNDING JACKSON'S RANCH. IT IS LOCATED AT 510 WEST 116TH STREET AND CURRENTLY ZONED AS TO ING SICKLE- FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND IT IS WITHIN THE 116TH STREET OVERLAY FILED BY JENNIFER AND NELSON OF FRANKENBERG OR BEHALF OF HOMES BY MACKENZIE INC.. JOHN, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
>> THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS LAND ABUSHEVITZ. WE DO REPRESENT THE APPLICANT HOMES BY MACKENZIE INC.. ON BEHALF OF HOMES BY MACKENZIE, AND THE DEVELOPER OF JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE AND WITH OUR OFFICE AND AS INDICATED, MACKENZIE'S REZONE APPLICATION SEEKS TO REZONE THE REAL ESTATE FROM THE S- 1 CRASSIFICATION TO THE JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE PHASE 2, PUD TO DEVELOP 18 CUSTOM TOWN HOMES ON THE REAL ESTATE. THIS WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF 12 TOWN HOMES TO THE NUMBER PERMITTED BY THE JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE TODAY WHERE MACKENZIE IS CURRENTLY.
>> THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH NOW ON DISPLAY AND IT'S ALL RIGHT HERE IN BLUE. THIS EXHIBIT IS ALSO WITH THE BROCHURES. THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 1. 6 ACRES IN AREA AND NORTH ADJACENT OF EAST 116TH STREET AND EAST OF SPRINGVALLEY ROAD AND CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY BUILDINGS IDENTIFIED HERE.
THE REAL ESTATE IS SURROUNDED TO THE WEST, NORTH AND EAST, BY THE JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE BY THE GRANT DISTRICT APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 220. SOUTH OF THE SITE IS THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER- DAY SAINTS TEMPERATUREL, WEST SAINTS TEMPLE.
SO THE ACCESS IS RIGHT HERE. THIS IS TEMPLE DRIVE AND THE LATTER- DAY SAINTS TEMPEL AND THE LARGE PRESERVATION AREA TO THE SOUTH AND WEST GENERALLY.
THE EXHIBIT NOW IS DISPLAY WAS INCLUDED IN OUR PUBLIC NOTICE. THE PLAN WAS TO HAVE THE THEREAL AND THE JACKSON'S VILLAGE TOWNHOME AREA.
THE AREA IN DARKER BLUE ARE THE EXISTING TOWN HOMES WITHIN THE VILLAGE. THERE IS A MODIFICATION TO THE DESIGN RIGHT HERE. THE SHADED AREA IS THE SUBJECT 1. 6 ACRES AND YOU CAN SEE THE ADDITIONAL TOWNHOMES WITHIN THAT SPACE. ACCESS WILL BE INTERNAL THROUGH THE JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE WHICH WILL ACCOMMODATE THE REMOVAL OF THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY CUT, APPROXIMATELY IN THIS LOCATION HERE ON 116TH STREET. THE NEW TOWNHOMES WOULD ACCESS
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WITH INTERNAL DRIVES WITH ACCESS TO THE COMMERCIAL AREA, AS WELL. SHOWN HERE, AND THROUGH THE ALLEY LAY OUT TO THE NORTH ANDWEST. >> ADDITIONAL PARKING WILL BEEN VIETD -- AND BEHIND TAB FOUR IS ANOTHERIER THAT JUST PLACES THE EXISTING OR APPROVED PLAN ON THE RIGHT WITH THE PROPOSED PLAN HERE ON THE LEFT. THE -- AS NOTED IN THE DEPARTMENT REPORT, THE PETITIONER IS WORKING ON PLAN REVISIONS TO ATTACK SOME OF THE COMMENTS AS WELL AS COMMENTS FROM STAFF, AND I WANT TO SHOW THAT TO YOU RIGHT NOW, AND I'M GOING TO SET IT JUST LIKE -- JUST LIKE THIS.
THERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF MODIFICATIONS THAT I WANT TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION AND THIS WILL BE IN THE SUBMITTAL TO THE COMMITTEE AND ALONG THE NORTH SOUTH ALLEY IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, BUT THESE TWO BUILDINGS WHICH ARE ORIENTED EAST TO WEST WILL BE ORIENTED NORTH TO SOUTH SO WE'RE PUTTING THE GARAGES TO THE ALLEY AND THE REAR NOT ALONG 116TH STREET AND THE FRONT DOORS AND THIS IS WHERE THE FRONT DOORS WILL FACE SOUTH TOWARD 116TH STREET AND IT DOES A COUPLE OF THINGS AND IT IMPROVES ACCESS IN THE ALLEYWAY BECAUSE CURRENTLY THE ALLEY TURNS HERE AND CONNECTS TO THE COMMERCIAL AREA AND THE REVISED COMES FURTHER SOUTH ALL OF THE WAY TO THESE TWO BUILDINGS BEFORE IT TURNS AND ACCESSES THE COMMERCIAL AREA AND THAT WILL PROVIDE BETTER ACCESSIBILITY TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND CIRCULATION TO THE SITE WHICH WAS AN APPROVED CONDITION. A COUPLE OF ADJUSTMENTS THAT YOU WOULDN'T PICK OUT ON THE PLAN THAT DOC ASKED US TO INCORPORATE, WHICH WE ARE.
YOU WILL MEET WITH STAFF BEFORE WE COME OUT TO HAMMER OUT THE DECOMMITTEE AS INDICATED BY THE DEPARTMENT PORT THAT WE'RE WORKING THESE ADJUSTMENTS SO THAT IN THE EVENT THE COMMITTEE DETERMINES IT IS IN A INPOSITION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IT WOULD ALLOWED TO DO THAT WITH THE ZONING REQUEST OR WE CAN COME BACK IT THE FULL PLAN COMMISSION AND THAT WILL BE UP TO THE FULL PLAN COMMISSION. THE LAST EXHIBIT I WANTED TO SHARE WAS OF THE EXISTING TOWNHOME PRODUCT.
IT'S INCLUDED BEHIND TAB 6. THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF ONE OF THE TOWN HOME PRODUCTS THAT MACKENZIE IS BUILDING TODAY.
PEOPLE LIVE IN OTHER AREAS OF JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO INCLUDE THIS SAME PRODUCT. SO WHEN THEY CAME THROUGH AFTER 2020 AND OBTAINED APPROVAL IN THE EVENT THE PLAN COMMISSION WERE TO FORWARD THE ORDINANCE TO THE COUNCIL, THESE WERE THE HOMES THAT WOULD BE BUILT AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK IN THE EVENT THAT THEY FOLLOWED THESE SAME PLANS WHICH IS THEIR INTENT SO WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE PHOTOGRAPH AND LET THE PLANNING COMMISSION KNOW THAT YOU'VE ALREADY WORKED THIS ITEM WHICH IS THE APPROVAL THAT WAS PRIOR GRANTED AND THEY HAVE THE DOCKET NUMBERS THAT WE CAN FALL BACK ON, BUT TO THIS END, THESE PRODUCTS THEY'RE SELLING TODAY, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THE AVERAGE SALE PRICE FOR INDIVIDUAL TOWN HOMES WOULD BE IN THE 1. 2 2TO $1.3 MILLION RANGE AND DEPENDING ON ITS POSITION OF THE PROPERTY AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S AN END UNIT OR IN THE MIDDLE AND OTHER AMENITIES THAT WOULD BE CHOSEN BY INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS.
IN CONCLUSION, OUR TEAM HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
THEY HAD IT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO FOR RESIDENTS WHO RECEIVED NOTE I WAS THIS PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING. ONLY ONE INDIVIDUAL ATTENDED AND THE TEAM SHARED AND REVIEWED WITH HIM HIS COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS REGARDING THE REQUEST AND HE WAS A DIRECTLY JOYNER TO THE NORTH WHO LIVES IN JACKSON'S GRANT.
IN ADDITION, THEY MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE JACKSON'S GRANT HOA AND IT'S JACKSON'S GRANT HOA AND THE BIGGER NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH AND ALSO INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE WHICH IS THE INTERNAL SPACE SURROUNDING THIS AREA.
THEY HAD GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, AND OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT NEITHER THE HOA OR JACKSON'S GRANT OR ADJOINING OWNERS HAD PROVIDED COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION. IT WAS A GOOD EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION AND IT DIDN'T APPEAR THAT THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST. WE'VE REVIEWED THE STAFF REPORT AND WILL WORK AS I INDICATED WITH STAFF ON THE REMAINING COMMENTS TO ADDRESS BUILDING PLACEMENT AND PEDESTRIAN COMMENCEMENTS.
IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT AT THE CONCLUSION OF
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TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING THAT THE PLAN COMMISSION MAY FORWARD THIS MATTER TO THE COMMITTEE WITH ACTION TO BE TAKEN BY THE COMMITTEE. WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PREFERENCE, BUT JUST WANTED TO INDICATE THAT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO CONSIDER AND WE WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT TO THE EXTENT THE PLAN COMMISSION THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE AND WITH THAT, I'LL CONCLUDE BECAUSEBECAUSE DIDN'T ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE PLAN COMMISSION HAD. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU.? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PETITION? SHOWING BY A RAISE OF HANDS? OKAY. I SEE NONE. SO I WILL THEN TURN IT OVER TO THE DEPARTMENT FOR YOUR COMMENTS. STEPH?
>> THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS REACHEL KIESLING, THE PLANNER WITH DEPARTMENTDEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. AS WE HEARD THE PETITIONER WANTS REZONE THIS SITE FROM A SINGLE- FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO A FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THIS WOULD BE THE EXISTING JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE PUD. IT WOULD REMOVE ANY REFERENCE TO KEEPING THE CUNNINGHAM PARCEL AND BUFFERING AGAINST IT. THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DONE IN THE FIRST VERSION OF THE JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE PUD AND THIS WILL INTEGRATE THE PARCEL FULLY INTO THE TOWNHOME SECTION OF THE JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT. 12 NEW TOWNHOMES WILL BE CONSTRUCTED. THE DESIGN APPROVAL, AS JOHN SAID FOR THESE TOWNHOMES WOULD FOLLOW PREVIOUS ADLS APPROVAL. THOSE APPROVALS WILL BE IN 2022 AND 2023. SOME OF THE TOWNHOMES FROM PHASE ONE WILL HAVE TO BE MOVED AROUND IN ORDER TO MAKE EVERYTHING FIT JUST RIGHT AND AS JOHN MENTIONED TONIGHT THERE WILL BE A NEW LAYOUT FOR THE TWO SOUTHERN TOWNHOME BUILDINGS TO ELIMINATE THE HAMMERHEAD THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ADJACENT TO 116TH STREET, AND SO THAT CHANGE MIGHT IMPACT THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT ON THE EAST SIDE ADJACENT TO THE COMMERCIAL AREA AS WELL AS THE DIMENSION FOR THE GREENBELT ALONG 116TH STREET. SO WE WILL REVIEW THOSE IN- DEPTH AS JOHN MIDDLE BEFORE WE COME BACK TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING, AND WITH THAT WE DO RECOMMEND GIVINGA, PROVAL TO THE COMMITTEE FOR THIS ITEM AND SENDING IT TO THE FEBRUARY 4TH FULL PLAN COMMISSION COMMITTEE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT CLOSES THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS AT 6:27. I'LL OPEN TO UP TO MY FELLOW PLAN COMMISSIONERS FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES? COUNCILWOMAN MENAR.
>> VERY QUICK QUESTION. HOW DOES THE JACKSON GRANT VILLAGE FEEL ABOUT THE ADDITION OF THE 12 TOWNHOMES IN RELATION TO THEIR AMENITIES AND USES OF THEIR AMENITIES.
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS MUCH FEEDBACK AND THERE WASN'T A RESPONSE AND I KNOW THEY RECEIVED COMMENT FROM AN OUTSIDE OWNER AND I HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT I CAN SHARE NOW. THERE ARE QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT AMENITIES, BOTH PASSIVE AND ACTIVE.
THERE IS A MEATING HALL THAT HAS POOL TABLES AND GAME TABLES WITH FIREPLACE AND TV AND THERE ARE 83 TOTAL HOMES WITH THIS SEGMENT AND THERE'S AN OUTDOOR MEETING SPACE AS WELL AS A PARK AREA CLOSE TO 116TH STREET AND THE FIRE PIT FOR AMENITIES THROUGHOUT THE SITE AND IT MAY HAVE BEEN NOT FULLY CONVEYED THAT HOW MANY AMENITIES ARE AVAILABLE TO THIS SPACE.
>> QUICK FOLLOW-UP. MAYBE YOU CAN PUT A COUPLECOUPLE PICNIC TABLES BY THE TREE AREA JUST SO THEY CAN HAVE A PICNIC
OR SOMETHING. >> IF I CAN ADD, TOO.
THE COMMERCIAL AREA IS AN AMENITY FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> I'LL PIGGYBACK ON THAT QUESTION A LITTLE BIT MORE. WILL THE VILLAGE ROLL INTO THE JACKSON'S GRANT HOA?
>> NO. THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE HOAS, THE JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE IS JUST THATWITH THE 19 SINGLE- FAMILY HOMES AND TOWN HOMES IN THIS SPACE.
THERE'S A SEPARATE ASSOCIATION THAT TAKES CARE OF OVERHEAD FOR THE COMMERCIAL AREA THAT IS SET ASIDE THERE, BUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD JUST HAS THE TWO BUILDINGS HERE AND HERE AS WELL AS THE PARK SPACE AND THE TREE PRESERVATION OVER HERE TO THE
NORTHEAST. >> JOHN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WHEN THE JACKSON GRANT VILLAGE CAME THROUGH THAT JACKSON GRANT HOA HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A VOTE WHETHER TO INCLUDE IT INTO THEIR HOA AND THEY ENDED UP VOTING THAT THEY DID NOT WANT
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TO INCLUDE JACKSON GRANT VILLAGE INTO THEIR HOA WHICH IS WHY THERE IS A SEPARATE JACKSON GRANT VILLAGE HOA, IS THAT CORRECT?>> JUST TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR, THIS NEW LAST PART TO BE DEVELOPED WILL BE PART OF THE JACKSON GRANT VILLAGE HOA.
>> CORRECT. ALL OF THE TOWNHOMES WOULD HAVE THE SAME OBLIGATIONS AND BENEFITS. THERE'S NOT A SEPARATE SUBSET FOR THIS REAL ESTATE. IT WOULD BE ONE SET OF STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO ALL THE
TOWNHOMES. >> THE ONE COMMENT THAT I DID READ THAT I DON'T SEE ADDRESSED HERE IS THE REQUEST FOR LANDSCAPING.
>> THIS EXHIBIT DOESN'T SHOW IT, BUT THE JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE, THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS ALLOW A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPE PLANTINGS THAT WILL GO IN THAT SPACE.
WE WILL WORK WITH STAFF TO REFINE THAT BEFORE WE COME BACK TO COMMITTEE, BUT RIGHT NOW AS IT STANDS IT'S TEN TREES AND TWO ORNAMENTALS AND 20 SHRUBS FOR 100 LINEAR FEET.
THERE WILL BE QUITE A FEW PLANTINGS IN ADDITION TO WHAT MIGHT BE ALONG THE FRONT FOUNDATION.
>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
>> BECAUSE I DON'T -- THAT RENDITION DOESN'T SHOW ANYTHING. WILL THERE BE SOME STUFF PLANTED THERE?
>> IN THE EVENT THAT WE ARE SUCCESSFUL THROUGH ZONING, WE WILL BE BACK IN FRONT OF THE PLAN COMMISSION FOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL OF THIS PLAN AND AT THAT TIME WE'LL ADVERTISE WITH DEFINITIVE LANDSCAPING PLANS AND WHAT WE'LL HAVE AVAILABLE TO REVIEW AND COMMENT ON.
>> THANKS SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT.
>> YEAH. I THINK YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE COMMENT THAT CAME IN WHERE THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT LANDSCAPING.
I THINK THAT NOW THEY'VE CHANGEDCHANGED THE LOOKS OF THE UNITS WILL BE AT 116TH STREET AND THE PERSON WHO SENT THAT THERE WAS THE OLD LAYOUT WHERE YOU WOULD SEE TRASH CANS IN THE ALLEY AND YOU WON'T SEE THAT NOW THE WAY I INTERPRET IT.
>> THERE'S NOT A HAMMER INDIVIDUAL THAT JUTS OUT INTO THAT SPACE SO THERE WILL BE THE 116TH OF FRONTAGE WHERE THE BACKDROP WILL BE THE FRONT OF HOUSES AND IN FRONT OF THAT THERE WILL STILL BE LANDSCAPING.
>> WHAT IS THE BUFFER SET TO WHERE YOU HAVE THE TOWNHOMES TO 116TH STREET?
>> TO THE DWELLING IT'S 25 FEET AND THERE'S A 20-FOOT
SO I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE STAFF'S COMMENT WAS ON THE 40- FOOT BUFFER, JUST KNOWING THAT 116TH STREET TO MICHIGAN ROAD IS DESIGNATED AS A CONSERVATION CORRIDOR AND JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS OKAY WITH THAT AMOUNT OF BUFFER AND THE TREE PLANNINGS THERE CAN BE DISCUSSED.
>> YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> MADAM CHAIR, WE MOVE WE APPROVE
THIS ITEM? >> I THINK IT NEEDS TO GO TO COMMITTEE.
>> BEFORE WE SEND IT TO COMMITTEE, THERE'S A FEW DRAFTING NOTES. I KNOW YOU WERE WORKING ON SOME OF THAT, AND AS YOU CHANGE WHETHER IT'S THE BUFFER AND THE TREE PLANTINGS, JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR IN THE PUD AND THAT'S MOSTLY IN SESSION 12 AND I NOTICED THE WAY THE APPLICABILITY OF THIS ORDINANCE IS DRAFTED, I THINK WHAT YOU'RETRYING TO SAY IS THAT THIS WILL AMEND THE PUD AND IF IT'S NOT OTHERWISE AMENDED THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE JACKSON GRANT PUD WILL APPLY. SO IF YOU JUST TAKE A LOOK AT 1.1 AND CLARIFY THAT.
YES. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO SEND THIS TO COMMITTEE?
>> YEAH. CORRECTION. MOTION TO MOVE THIS TO COMMITTEE.
>> AND I'LL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO THE COMMITTEE PLEASE SAY AYE.
>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE, WE WILL SEE YOU AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING ON FEBRUARY 4TH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
[I.1. Docket No. PZ-2024-00099 DP/ADLS: Spring Mill Shops.]
>> SO THAT IS OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING AND WE ARE ON TO OLD BUSINESS, AND WE HAVE DOCKET NUMBER PZ-20-24- 00099 DPS SPRINGHILL SHOPS. THE APPLICANT SEEKS DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND APPROVAL FOR THREE NEW MULTITENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS TOTALING 14,874 SQUARE FEET.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER AT 116 STREET AND SPRINGHILL ROAD WITHIN JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE. THE BUILDING HAS SPECIFIC ADDRESSES OF 11745 AND 11744, AND IT IS PUD, Z-6-3-20.
FILED BY SEAN MACINNIS OF REPUBLIC DEVELOPMENT. SEAN?
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SEAN CURRAN WITH CURRAN ARCHITECTURE. 1745 AUTON LOOP EAST DRIVE, INDIANAPOLIS, AND WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING.SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS PROJECT A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW AND WE ARE HERE HOPEFULLY FOR THE LAST TIME TONIGHT TO GET THIS PROJECT FINALIZED.
THIS IS ADJACENT TO THE TOWNHOME PROJECT THAT WAS JUST PRESENTED.
THESE ARE THE THREE RETAIL BUILDINGS THAT WILL COMPRISE THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF 16TH AND SPRING MILL. WE HAD A FEW MINOR ITEMS THAT WE WERE WE RESOLVING WITH STAFF AT THE LAST MEETING AND THOSE ARE BEING FINALIZED AND WE'RE JUST GETTING THINGS RESUBMITTED WITH PROJECT DOCS AND WE ARE PLANNING ON GETTING THOSE SUBMITTED ANDAND WE'LL BE SUBMITTING A SIGNAGE VARIANCE FOR SIGNAGE ON THE PROJECT, AS WELL. WE'LL HAVE ALL OF THAT PAPERWORK COMPILED AND READY TO GET THAT SUBMITTED, AS WELL. JUST FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT I'LL SHARE. THIS IS FROM SOUTHWEST FROM THE CORNER LOOKING TO THE NORTHWEST AND THIS IS FROM 116TH AND SPRING MILL AND INTERNALLY FROM ESSENTIALLY FROM THE TOWNHOME AREA TO THE SOUTH AND INTERNALLY FROM WITHIN THE PARKING LOT AND WE WORK WITH STAFF ON THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDINGS OVER TWO OR THREE MEETINGS AND I THINK THE STAFF -- WE'VE COME TO A DESIGN IS HAPPY WITH, AND WE'RE HAPPY WITH, SO, II THE COMMISSION IS HAPPY WITH, AS WELL. A LOT OF OUTDOOR SEAT BEING SPACES FOR THE RESTAURANTS AND WE THINK IT WILL BE A GREAT AMENITY AS RACHEL MENTIONED FOR NOT ONLY JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE, BUT THE LARGER JACKSON'S GRANT DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL.
IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER, I'LL LET STAFF GO THROUGH SOME OF THE
ITEMS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'LL TURN TO THE STAFF FOR THEIR
COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU AGAIN, RACHEL KEYSLING WITH DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES.
SEAN WENT OVER IT WELL AND WE DID SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THE DESIGN OF THESE BUILDINGS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY MET THE CHARACTER OF THE JACKSON'S GRANT VILLAGE PUD AND WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING AND NOW WE ARE THERE AND AS HE SAID, WE JUST HAVE SOME FINAL THINGS TO WORK THROUGH ON PROJECT DOCS AND WE WERE WAITING ON FULL ENGINEERED DRAWINGS AND WE NOW HAVE THOSE AND SO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS GOING THROUGH THAT WITH THEM AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS. SOME OF THEM BEING THAT WE'LL TAKE CARE OF TWO AS FAR AS INTEGRATING THIS PLAN SET WITH THE NEW PLAN SET THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT AS WELL. SO THERE WILL BE CONTINUING WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE SIDEWALKS LINE UP ANDAND KNOW, THE PARKING SPACES ARE APPROPRIATELY SIGNED AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT TONIGHT. THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS?
>> I'D JUST LIKE TO COMMENT, SEAN, SEEING A COUPLE OF ITERATIONS FOR IT, THIS DEFINITELY REFLECTS OF THE VILLAGE LOOK AND FEEL SO THANK YOU FOR SPENDING TIME ON THIS.
>> MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE ADOPTION OF THE DOCKET PZ- 202400099 SUBJECT TO FINAL APPROVAL WITH OUTSTANDING CONDITIONS BY STAFF.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS DOCKET SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE FINAL COMMENTS.
>> IT'S PASSED. CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING.
WE HAVE NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO DISCUSS THIS EVENING, SO THANK YOU VERY M
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.