[Mayor’s Advisory Commission on Senior Living 1-22-25]
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MAYOR'S ADVISORY COMMISSION ON SENIOR LIVING, THIS IS JANUARY 22ND, 2025, I'M RICH TAYLOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AT LARGE AND I WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, I SERVE AS COCHAIR WITH CAROL APPLEGATE, WE WILL OPEN THE MEETING UP BY INTRODUCING TWO NEW COMMISSION MEMBERS, WE HAVE ANNA STOUT, A REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL AND HAS SERVED ON A NUMBER OF BOARDS AND COMMITTEES FOR THE CITY, SO WELCOME TO THE TEAM. GLAD TO HAVE YOU. AND WE ALSO HAVE JOHN O'DONNELL JUNIOR, ATTORNEY AND APPOINTEE, ALL APPOINTEES FROM THE MAYOR, THANK YOU JOHN FOR JOINING THE TEAM HERE. NEXT, WE WILL MOVE IT OVER TO BILL FOR A FOLLOW-UP REPORT ON THE AGE FRIENDLY CONFERENCE THAT WAS HELD ON DECEMBER 4TH, 2024, I SEE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE
ATTENDED. >> I SEE MANY OF YOU THAT CAME THAT DAY, SO WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT, I'M SO GLAD IT WASN'T AS COLD THAT DAY AS IT IS TODAY, I WONDER IF I COULD HAVE A SHOW OF HANDS OF HOW MANY OF YOU ARE TIRED OF THE COLD WEATHER. WE DID HAVE A REALLY COULD CONFERENCE AT THE LIBRARY, WE HAD ABOUT 60 TO 70 THAT ATTENDED THROUGHOUT THE DAY SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT. THE MAYOR WAS ABLE TO ATTEND, I THINK EVERYBODY WAS REALLY GLAD THAT SHE WAS THERE IN THE MORNING. WE HAD OUR SANDWICHES THAT WERE DONATED BY JIMMIE JOHNSON THAT WERE REALLY GOOD, WE HAD A NICE LUNCHEON, AND ONE OF MY SPEAKERS, DAVE SANDERS BAKED 200 COOKIES IN THE SHAPES OF APPLES AND DECORATED THOSE BY HAND SO THAT ADDED A GREAT DEAL TO OUR CONFERENCE. WE HAD I THINK OVER 300 SURVEYS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED THAT DAY AND MANY OF THOSE ATTENDEES DID STAY AND FILTER THOSE OUT AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A REPORT ON THAT VERY SHORTLY. PAUL FROM THE ARP SAID A FEW WORDS AND HE IS GOING ON MATERNITY LEAVE, HIS WIFE IS HAVING A BABY, SO HE HAS BEEN HELPING US GET STARTED WITH AARP SO I HOPE YOU ENJOYED WHAT HE HAD TO SAY . AARP SUPPLIED THE NOTEBOOKS THAT MOST OF YOU GOD, SO ALL IN ALL IT WAS A GOOD CONFERENCE AND I THINK THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE OF THOSE. SO WE MAY BE DOING THAT. AND WE WILL BEGIN PLANNING AT SOME POINT FOR NEXT YEARS CONFERENCE. THANK YOU, CAROL. NEXT WE WILL MOVE TO THE PRESENTATION AND FOLLOW-UP ON THE CURRENT SURVEY STATUS, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MISSED, THE CITY OF CARMEL IS WORKING TO APPLY AND RECEIVE THE DESIGNATION AS AN AGE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY. WE HAVE TO MEET A CERTAIN CRITERIA BUT THE FIRST STEP OF THE PROCESS AND JUST LIKE MANY PROBLEMS WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE, YOU HAVE TO OBTAIN THE DATA. WE WANT TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED UPON DATA SO THIS ASSESSMENT AND SURVEY IS THE FIRST STEP IN THIS PROCESS. SO, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND COMING UP HERE.
>> HELLO. OKAY, SO I WILL JUST GO AHEAD AND START HERE. OKAY, BASICALLY JUST TO GET STARTED HERE, I WILL JUST DO AN OVERVIEW , SO THIS IS JUST A PILOT OF THE SURVEY WE ARE DOING, SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE DECIDED IN THE MEANWHILE THAT WE SHOULD BE ASKING ABOUT, WE SHOULD DEFINITELY DO THAT FOR FUTURE SURVEYS, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW OR ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK, YOU DIDN'T ASK THIS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. SO ABOUT 250 SURVEYS WENT
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OUT, I WOULD SAY THAT SOME PEOPLE COMING UP AND ASK FOR 20, AND I SAY THAT FOR THE RESPONSE RATE, SO OF THE 250, WE GOT 82 BACK, ONE PERSON WAS FROM ZIONSVILLE, SO WE DID NOT RECORD THAT ONE, BUT I CAN, THAT INCLUDES MAYBE THE PERSON THAT TOOK A STACK AND FORGOT TO HAND THEM OUT. AND AGAIN, THE POINT OF THE PILOT SURVEY IS TO TEST AND MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING THE INFORMATION THAT WE WANT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO READ SO MUCH ABOUT THAT RESPONSE QUITE YET. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND SOCIODEMOGRAPHIC FACTORS OF THE PEOPLE WHO DID BRING THE SURVEYS BACK, SO THE AGES RANGE FROM 50 TO 94 YEARS OLD, THE AVERAGE AGE WAS 73, AND THAT IS THE STANDARD DEVIATION IF ANYBODY CARES. SO THE SAMPLE WAS ABOUT 59.5% FEMALE, SO A LITTLE MORE FEMALE WHICH MAKES SENSE, THERE TENDS TO BE MORE OLDER WOMEN THAN OLDER MEN IN THE POPULATION. 96% WHITE, THE WAY IT BREAKS DOWN, THE FACT THAT 82 RETURNED AND ONE IS OF ASIAN DESCENT , ABOUT 65% OF PEOPLE WERE MARRIED, ABOUT 30% WIDOWED, 26% AND EVERYONE ELSE WAS EITHER DIVORCED OR NEVER MARRIED OR DIDN'T ANSWER.THOSE ARE SURFACE LEVEL STUFF. EDUCATION, A LOT OF EDUCATED FOLKS WHICH IS GREAT SO EVERYBODY HAD GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL OR HAD A GED AND HALF HAVE HAD A FOUR-YEAR DEGREE OR MORE, SO GRADUATE SCHOOL INCLUDED, SO A VERY HIGHLY EDUCATED GROUP. THAT IS THE INCOME BREAKDOWN, I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THOSE, BUT YOU CAN GET A GOOD VIEW, IT IS A MIDDLE UPPER CLASS GROUP. OF THE PEOPLE WE SAMPLED, ABOUT THREE QUARTERS LIVED IN THEIR HOME, IN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, A FEW LIVED IN APARTMENT, A FEW IN A CONDO AND A BIGGER CHUNK LIVED IN SENIOR HOUSING SO EITHER ASSISTED LIVING OR SENIOR COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE BIGGEST CHUNK OF PEOPLE OWNED THEIR HOME, 61%. 19% RENTED AND A FEW SAID NEITHER, SO THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROBABLY LIVING WITH THEIR CHILDREN OR HAVE SOME ARRANGEMENT SUCH AS THAT. THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED GETTING INTO THE RATINGS. GENERAL COMMUNITY RATING OF CARMEL, PRETTY GOOD , ONLY 6% GIVE IT A FAIR RATING, AND THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, VERY FEW ARE THINKING ABOUT LEAVING CARMEL . ABOUT A FOURTH ARE THINKING OF MOVING TO A DIFFERENT RESIDENCE, SOME OF WHICH ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT FOR AGING RELATED REASONS AND THE VAST MAJORITY ARE THINKING ABOUT STAYING IN THE CURRENT RESIDENCE WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR OTHER THINGS WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, SO THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WANT TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES. THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS OF THESE, I'M JUST GOING TO DO A SUMMARY AND EVENTUALLY ALL THIS DATA WILL BE AVAILABLE SO YOU CAN SEE THE SPECIFICS, GENERALLY PRETTY GOOD RATINGS ON THINGS RELATED TO THE HOME, THINGS LIKE PARKS WERE RATED HIGHLY, SIDEWALK SAFETY, ROAD SAFETY, ROAD MAINTENANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT. THESE ARE THE AREAS IN WHICH THEIR NEEDS WORK, SO AFFORDABLE HOME CARE SERVICES, AFFORDABLE SEASONABLE SERVICES, THINGS LIKE LAWNCARE, LANDSCAPING, THINGS THAT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT TO DO AS YOU AGE.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS, AS FAR AS SENIOR COMMUNITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND LOW AND MAINTAINED HOUSING. I WOULD SAY ABOUT A THIRD OF EACH OF THOSE, THE ANSWER WAS UNSURE, SO IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS DO EXIST BUT AT LEAST A THIRD OF THE PEOPLE WE SAMPLED HAVE NO IDEA THEY EXIST. IT COULD BE AN ISSUE OF NEEDING TO INCREASE THOSE THINGS, BUT ALSO ADVERTISE IN -- ADVERTISEMENT. AND THIS IS
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ACTUALLY MOST OF THE PEOPLE WE INTERVIEWED, THEY ARE PRETTY HEALTHY AND STILL LIVING IN THEIR HOMES AND STILL DRIVING SO THEY MIGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT THESE THINGS BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED THEM BUT THERE WILL COME A TIME FOR SOME PEOPLE WHEN THEY DO, SO HAVING THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE WOULD BE NICE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, TRANSPORTATION, 96% OF PEOPLE STILL DRIVE THEMSELVES, THAT IS THE PRIMARY MODE OF TRANSPORTATION. THAT SPEAKS TO HAVING A HEALTHY GROUP OF PEOPLE. 54% OF PEOPLE SAY THEY WALK FOR TRANSPORTATION, THAT IS A WEIRD QUESTION BECAUSE I CERTAINLY DON'T WALK TO WORK BUT BEING ABLE TO WALK IS DEFINITELY A BLESSING FOR SURE.35% SAY THEY BIKE . ABOUT 30% HAVE OTHER PEOPLE DRIVE THEM AROUND, MAYBE THIS IS FRIENDS, FAMILY, SOME PEOPLE USE UBER AND LYFT, I PRESUME A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN SENIOR CENTERS, WITH AGING RELATING CARE FACILITIES. BUT, NO ONE REPORTED USING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. YES. I WILL SAY A LOT OF TIMES, EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS YOU CAN PICK MORE THAN ONE OPTION, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DON'T, THEY DO JUST PICK ONE BUT YES, YOU CAN REPORT MORE THAN ONE OPTION. I THINK THE QUESTION WAS, WHEN YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE AND GO SOMEWHERE, WHAT IS THE PRIMARY MODE OF TRANSPORTATION? ONE OF THE OPTIONS WAS I DON'T GO OUT OF MY HOUSE AND THANKFULLY NOBODY ANSWERED THAT, SO THAT IS GOOD. I WILL GET TO THAT TOPIC IN A LITTLE BIT, TOO. SO TRANSPORTATION, THIS IS ANOTHER THING, COMMUNITY RATINGS ARE NOT GREAT, YOU CAN SEE HERE, 67% SAID EITHER FAIR OR POOR . 54% SAID COULD USE BETTER MAINTAINED TRANSPORTATION AND 47% SAID [INDISCERNIBLE] AND AGAIN, THERE'S A GOOD CHUNK OF PEOPLE THAT IF THERE IS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. SO IS IT AN ISSUE OF NOT HAVING IT OR NOT HAVING IT WHILE ADVERTISED OR ACCESSIBLE? HEALTH AND WELLNESS, THIS IS RATINGS OF YOUR OWN HEALTH AND WELLNESS, SO MOST PEOPLE ARE DOING PRETTY GOOD, ONLY 4% SAY THEIR HEALTH IS FAIR SO THAT IS GREAT FOR THIS SAMPLE, PROBABLY NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ACTUAL ADULT POPULATION, AND THE NEXT QUESTION WAS, IS ANYONE IN YOUR HOUSE DEALING WITH A DISABILITY THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO GET AROUND? THE VAST MAJORITY SAID NEITHER THEM OR THEIR SPOUSE HAD A DISABILITY. SO, COMMUNITY RATINGS, GENERALLY GOOD RATINGS ON HEALTH RELATED THINGS, AVAILABILITY OF RESPECTFUL HOSPITAL STAFF, GENERAL AFFORDABILITY OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS PROGRAMS AND PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, THINGS FOR SENIORS COULD USE SOME WORK AND HAVING UNDERSTANDABLE, HELPFUL ANSWERING SERVICES, I THINK WE CAN ALL RELATE TO THIS QUESTION, TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF YOU DR. TO NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM CAN DEFINITELY BE DIFFICULT . A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY ABOUT PROGRAMS OR SERVICES TO HELP SENIORS FIND AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE HEALTHCARE, SO 53% TO 54% OF PEOPLE SAID THEY WERE UNSURE, WHEN ASKED IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE, 50% SAID HI HAVE NO IDEA. THAT IS SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND. 62% OF PEOPLE ARE UNAWARE AND ABOUT A THIRD ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH TELEHEALTH SERVICES, I DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARILY -- I THINK THAT IS PRETTY COMMON BUT SOMETHING WE ALSO MIGHT WANT TO EMPHASIZE BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GET AROUND DON'T HAVE THAT TRANSPORTATION. I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN, ONLY ABOUT 14% OF THE PEOPLE OUR CURRENT CAREGIVERS BUT 61% THINK THEY ARE LIKELY TO BE A CAREGIVER IN THE FUTURE SO A BIG CHUNK OF
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PEOPLE. SOCIAL PARTICIPATION AND LONELINESS, I'M SO HAPPY TO SEE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ANSWERED IS VERY LOW, ONLY 5% HAVE SOCIAL ISOLATION SO THAT IS LIKE HOW OFTEN YOU INTERACT WITH PEOPLE IN YOUR LIFE AND THERE WAS ONLY 5% THAT SAID RARELY OR NEVER. SO THAT IS GREAT. EVERYTHING ELSE WAS AT LEAST WEEKLY THEY ARE HEARING FROM PEOPLE. ABOUT 9% TO 16% OF THE POPULATION REPORTED SOME TYPE OF LONELINESS, THAT IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, SO 16% OF PEOPLE REPORTED A LACK OF COMPANIONSHIP, THAT MAKES SENSE, THERE IS A GOOD CHUNK OF WIDOWERS ALSO IN THIS SAMPLE SO THAT PROBABLY TRACKS BUT THAT IS HOW WE ARE THERE. AND THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE AND I WILL SUMMARIZE THIS AS QUICKLY AS I CAN. BASICALLY THERE IS A DESIRE FOR MORE PARTICIPATION AND GROUP ACTIVITY SUCH AS THIS. THERE'S A GOOD SPLIT, I WOULD SAY IT IS ABOUT 50-50. SO DEFINITELY IMPROVEMENT TO BE MADE BUT I WOULD SAY NOT THE BIGGEST IMPROVEMENT BASED ON WHAT EVERYONE SAYS. SO, THE 10,000 FOOT VIEW AND I'M READY FOR>> SO, I THINK -- >> I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, IT SEEMED LIKE EVERY OTHER SLIDE MENTIONED AFFORDABILITY BEING A PRIMARY CONCERN FOR PARTICIPANTS IN THE SURVEY SO I ASKED HER TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS INCOME AND QUICKLY LOOKING AT IT, ABOUT 30%, I'M SORRY 50% MAKE OVER 75,000, SO I'M CURIOUS HOW WE CAN DEFINE OR MAYBE EXPLORE WHAT AFFORDABILITY LOOKS LIKE FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS IN THE $75,000
TO $500,000 INCOME. >> I HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS, THE FIRST ONE IS THE EASIEST ANSWER, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ANSWERED THE SURVEY PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO NEED A LOT OF THOSE LOWER INCOME SERVICES, SO WE JUST HAD A MORE WELL-OFF SAMPLE ANSWERED. AND ANSWER NUMBER TWO, $75,000 IS A GOOD AMOUNT, BUT WHEN YOU ARE RETIRED, DEPENDING ON SAVINGS, THAT CAN GO QUICK SO THERE MIGHT BE CONCERNS, I'M DOING OKAY NOW BUT IN 10 OR 20 YEARS OR IF I DEVELOP A DISABILITY, THE MONEY IS GOING TO GO FAST. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HOUSING IN PARTICULAR, IF I HAVE TO GO INTO ASSISTED LIVING, AT SOME POINT I'M GOING TO RUN OUT OF MONEY SO I THINK THAT IS ANOTHER ONE. AND THE OTHER ANSWER IS RELATED TO THE FIRST ONE, I THINK WE NEED TO ASK MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE LOWER INCOME THESE QUESTIONS, THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT THAT UNREPRESENTATIVE OF CARMEL'S POPULATION BUT IF THIS IS A CONCERN, WE NEED TO BE ASKING MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE AT THAT INCOME LEVEL THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE MAYBE, ABOUT A THIRD OR HALF ISN'T UNSURE OF THOSE RESOURCES, BUT MAYBE THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY IN THOSE BRACKETS DO KNOW ABOUT THOSE SERVICES, MAYBE THEY DO EXIST BUT THE PEOPLE ARE MORE WELL-OFF JUST HAPPENED TO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT YET. I THINK THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. SO WE CAN DEFINE LOWER INCOME IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS BUT THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS, I THINK WE ARE ASKING SOME OF THE WRONG PEOPLE SO FAR AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A PILOT. THIS IS WHY WE DO THIS BUT I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST ISSUE. YES, SOME CAN BE WORKING, I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE THAT, I CAN FIND IT PRETTY QUICKLY BUT I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR YOU RIGHT NOW. I CAN TELL YOU IN ABOUT TWO MINUTES, BUT YES, SOME PEOPLE ARE WORKING AND SOME ARE RETIRED.
>> SINCE THE AUDIENCE DOESN'T HAVE A MICROPHONE, IF WE CAN
REPEAT THE QUESTIONS? >> YES, SO THE QUESTION WAS, ARE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE RETIRED OR SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE WORKING, AND THE ANSWER WAS YES, BOTH. I CAN'T REMEMBER
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THE EXACT WORDING OF THE QUESTION BUT, I CAN LOOK IT UP, IT WOULD ASSUME TO BE WHEN THEY WERE WORKING, BECAUSE THEY ARE ASSUMED TO BE RETIRED. THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. IT WAS -- SO THIS WAS JUST A PILOT AGAIN, IT WAS JUST PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED THIS AGING CONFERENCE AND PEOPLE WHO SAID YES I KNOW SOMEBODY ELSE WHO FILLED IT OUT AND BROUGHT IT TO THEM. THIS IS NOT THE TYPICAL STANDARD AND THAT IS NOT WHAT WE INTEND TO DO, THIS IS BASICALLY TO WORK OUT THE KINKS AND GET SOME DATA EARLY ON, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GET A MORE REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE FOR SURE.>> TO THAT POINT, COULD YOU OUTLINE, THIS IS JUST THE PILOT TO SEE IF THE QUESTIONS ARE GENERALLY WORKING IN THE RESPONSES, COULD YOU OUTLINE JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE AND THE PUBLIC, HOW THE FULL ASSESSMENT WILL WORK AND WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE AND HOW DO YOU FIND YOUR SAMPLE SIZE?
>> YES, THERE'S A FEW STEPS IN THAT, WE ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE BEST SAMPLE AND I THINK , I HAVE WHAT I THINK IS A SOLUTION WHICH WE CAN DISCUSS. THE FIRST IS THAT I THINK WE WANT TO GET A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE, WE WANT TO -- IN A PERFECTLY IDEAL SITUATION, WE WOULD HAVE $1 BILLION, WE WOULD SEND A SURVEY TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON 50 YEARS AND OLDER IN CARMEL AND EVERYTHING A PERSON WOULD SEND IT BACK, WE WOULD HAVE 100% RESPONSE RATE AND IT WOULD BE AWESOME. THAT WOULDN'T EVEN BE A SAMPLE, THAT IS A POPULATION, THAT IS THE CLOSEST TO CENSUS AS POSSIBLE. IN LIEU OF THAT, WE WANT TO GET A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT THE VARIETY OF POPULATION SO THAT WE CAN SAY OKAY, THIS IS THE WHOLE POPULATION, WE GOT THE RIGHT NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE MEN AND WOMEN AND INCOME ACROSS DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE HAVE A SAMPLE OF EVERYONE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT AND DEPENDING ON HOW IMPORTANT THESE LOW INCOME ISSUES ARE, I THINK WE NEED TO OVERSAMPLE LOWER INCOME OLDER ADULTS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IS A CONCERN FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T LOW INCOME THEMSELVES YET, SO I THINK THAT IS A CONCERN FOR THE FUTURE. SO THE SOLUTION THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON, WE HAVE A RESOURCE WHERE WE CAN BASICALLY SAMPLE ANYONE WHO HAS EVER RECEIVED HEALTHCARE SERVICES THROUGH IU HEALTH IN THE CARMEL AREA AND CENSOR IT THAT WAY. OBVIOUSLY IT WON'T BE EVERYONE BUT WE WILL PULL A RANDALL -- RANDOM SAMPLE AND SEND THEM OUT THAT WAY. I THINK THAT IS THE CLOSEST WE CAN GET
TO HAVING A RANDOM SAMPLE. >> QUESTION ABOUT THAT, WE HAVE ALSO BEEN TALKING WITH ASCENSION HERE LOCALLY, AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE PRIVACY LAWS, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO OBTAIN ADDITIONAL POSSIBLE RESPONDENTS TO SAMPLE FROM THEM OR DOES THAT CREATE ISSUES RELATED TO HIPAA?
>> BEFORE WE CAN DO THIS, WE HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM OUR INSTITUTO -- INSTITUTIONAL REVIEW BOARD, THAT IS IN THE PROCESS SO THAT WE COVER ALL OF THOSE THINGS, WE ARE NOT INVADING PEOPLE'S PRIVACY, IT IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS OVERSIGHT INTO THE RESEARCH PROCESS, SO YOU WERE SAYING YOU HAD CONTACT WITH ASCENSION, THAT IS A POSSIBILITY AS WELL. I THINK FOR US IN PARTICULAR, WORKING FROM IU, HAVING THAT CONNECTION MAKES THINGS EASIER THROUGH IU HEALTH, WHERE WE CAN DEFINITELY DISCUSS THAT. THIS IS JUST, I THINK, THE QUICKEST AND CLOSEST TO THE RIGHT WAY THAT WE CAN GET THE DATA BACK TO YOU GUYS AT THIS POINT. YOU HAD A QUESTION? YES, AVERAGE AGE IS 73, AGES 50 TO 94 ANSWERED.
YES? WE DON'T HAVE THAT, AND IN TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A NONBIASED SAMPLE, WE WANT PEOPLE TO ANSWER THE SURVEY THAT WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE, ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY INVESTED IN THIS AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS INSANE BUT WE WANT A SAMPLE OF THE ENTIRE
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POPULATION, YOU GUYS IN HERE ARE AUTOMATICALLY BY DEFINITION PROACTIVE PEOPLE, YOU ARE HERE SO YOU ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY. WE WANT A REPRESENTATION OF THE ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE OF THE OLDER ADULTS LIVING IN CARMEL, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED, BUT ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED AND ALSO HEALTHIER . YOU WERE ABLE TO GET HERE, SO THAT IS JUST ANOTHER WAY OF GETTING -- AND ALL THAT TO SAY, YOU MIGHT STILL BE GETTING A SURVEY IN THE MAIL, THAT IS WHY WE ARE DOING IT THE WAY WE ARE TRYING TO DO IT. ALL GENERALLY VERY POSITIVE, A FEW FAIR RESPONSES BUT 80% SATISFACTION I WOULD SAY.>> THE QUESTION WAS FROM ANDREW YOUNG, ASKING IF THERE WAS ANY THING RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY, POLICE AND FIRE.
>> I CAN GET THOSE TO YOU BUT THEY WERE GENERALLY VERY GOOD.
YES? WAS THAT THIS? I DON'T KNOW.
>> THE QUESTION WAS, THE MAYOR DID A COMMUNITY SURVEY LAST YEAR AND IF WE ARE DUPLICATING EFFORTS. NO, THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC ASSESSMENT RELATED TO THE AGE FRIENDLY ARP AGE FRIENDLY DESIGNATION IN THE DATA THAT WE NEED SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE AGING POPULATION. THE SURVEY THAT THE MAYOR DID COVERED MANY DIFFERENT ISSUES AND MAYBE THERE'S INFORMATION WE CAN GLEAN FROM THAT SURVEY AS WELL BUT, THAT DOESN'T SATISFY THE NEED OF THE COMMISSION IN
ITSELF. >> AND I WILL SAY ONE MORE THING, THE NAME OF THIS SURVEY, IT IS THE HEALTHY AGING COMMUNITY SURVEY FOR AARP , IT IS ONLINE AND EASILY ACCSSIBLE, SO IF ANYONE IS CURIOUS ABOUT THE EXACT QUESTIONS, YOU CAN LOOK THEM UP, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AS WELL. SO, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER AND THERE'S NO WAY FOR ME TO GET THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW OF THE EXACT PEOPLE IN CARMEL. IF I DID, WE COULD JUST SAMPLE DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY . I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
I DO HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, IT WAS STILL IN THEORY, UNLESS THERE'S A REASON WHY PEOPLE ARE SELECTING TO GO TO IU HEALTH OVER OTHERS , THAT WOULD SWAY THE WAY THE SURVEY LIENS, IT SHOULD MATTER BUT I HEAR YOU AND THAT IS A CONCERN, THIS IS NOT A PERFECT BY ANY MEANS OF GETTING THIS INFORMATION, LIKE I SAID, LET'S JUST ADD IT TO THE CENSUS BUT UNFORTUNATELY
THAT IS NOT AN OPTION. >> THE QUESTION WAS, NOT EVERYBODY GOES TO IU HEALTH AND IS THAT AN ISSUE? THESE TYPES OF ASSESSMENTS AND SURVEYS, THERE'S A LOT OF STATISTICS AND SCIENCE BEHIND IT, AND SHE HAS TALKED FROM THE 10,000 FOOT LEVEL ABOUT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES , AND THEY ARE PROFESSIONAL RESEARCHERS SO THEY DO THIS FOR A LIVING SO I'M VERY CONFIDENT IN THEIR PROCESS. YOU DO IT FOR A
LIVING. >> AND THERE'S ALSO POSSIBILITIES, AGAIN, A 10,000 VIEW, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE CARED ABOUT WIDOWED PEOPLE BETWEEN THE AGES OF 60 AND 70 WHO OWN THEIR OWN HOME, AND WE ONLY GOT ONE PERSON TO ACTUALLY ANSWER THAT PERSON BUT WE WERE REALLY INTERESTED, WE COULD AWAIT THE RESPONSE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER WHEN WE DO THESE FANCY ANALYSES LATER TO MAKE IT MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SAMPLE, SO THERE IS A POSSIBILITY, THAT I JUST WANT A REPRESENTATIVE
>> THIS SURVEY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, 15 PAGES LONG. IF I GET
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HANDED A 15 PAGE SURVEY, YOU KNOW WHAT I DO WITH IT? I WOULD THROW IT IN THE CAN WRITE THEIR, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT, I DON'T HAVE THE INTEREST. WITH MOST SURVEYS, PROBABLY AT LEAST A THIRD OF THE QUESTIONS ARE RELATIVE TO SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND THAT COULD CUT DOWN THE NUMBER OF PAGES BY AT LEAST 50%, AND THEY ASK THOSE RIDICULOUS QUESTIONS. SO, TO ASK PEOPLE TO FILL OUT THIS KIND OF SURVEY AND NOT MAKE IT NECESSARILY EASILY ACCESSIBLE IS CHALLENGING TO GET AN ACCURATE NUMBER TO MAKE IT STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT. MY RECOMMENDATION IS, THIS NEEDS TO BE PAIRED DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY AND NEEDS TO BE MORE READILY AVAILABLE. I HAVE A FACEBOOK GROUP THAT I CALL CARMEL SENIORS SPEAK, WE HAVE OVER 500 MEMBERS , IF THIS WERE A SHORTER SURVEY, I COULD PUT THAT ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE AND WE WOULD PROBABLY GET SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 300 TO 500 RESPONSES BACK, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT 15 PAGES OF ANYTHING, EVEN IF IT IS NEWSPAPER, IT MAKESGOOD FIREWOOD FOR ME. >> I HEAR YOU, THIS SURVEY IS FROM AARP, WE ADDED ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION ABOUT HOW YOU LIKE TO RECEIVE COMMUNICATIONS SO IN THE FUTURE WE CAN COMMUNICATE THESE THINGS, BUT THIS IS FROM AARP, SO IN ORDER TO BE DESIGNATED AN AGE FRIENDLY CITY, WE HAVE TO CHECK OFF THESE BOXES. UNFORTUNATELY WE
CAN'T MAKE IT MUCH SHORTER. >> SO IN OTHER WORDS, IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS CREDIBLE, WE HAVE TO FALL IN LINE WITH AARP, IS
THAT CORRECT? >> IF WE WANT TO BE DESIGNATED
AN AGE FRIENDLY CITY , YES. >> WHEN WE PASSED THESE OUT TO THE COMMITTEE AND ASKED FOR FEEDBACK AND THE COMMITTEE VOTED. YOU WERE AT THE MEETING, WE VOTED IN FAVOR TO USE THIS SURVEY, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK BEFORE WE WENT INTO THIS PROCESS, THESE ARE ACTUALLY SPECIFICALLY ALIGNED WITH OUR AREAS THAT WE DECIDED WE WERE GOING TO FOCUS ON IN OUR SUBCOMMITTEE, SO IT IS PRETTY ALIGNED WITH THOSE AREAS OF FOCUS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND EACH SECTION ADDRESSES THOSE AND TO THE DOCTORS POINT, WE COULD SEND IT OUT TO THIS GROUP OR YOU COULD SEND IT FROM YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY BECAUSE IT IS NOT A RANDOM SAMPLE. THE DOCTOR TOUCHED ON THAT A LITTLE BIT AND WHAT IS VERY IMPORTANT IS THAT THE DATA WE RECEIVE IS VALID AND NOT BIAS TOWARDS A
CERTAIN AND -- >> FOR EXAMPLE, BEING ABLE TO SEND THAT SURVEY TO YOUR FACEBOOK GROUP, WHICH I'M A MEMBER OF BY THE WAY, I'M NOT A SENIOR SO I'M HOPING I'M ALLOWED. SO, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, A WAY IN WHICH THAT SAMPLE WOULD BE BIAS IS ALL OF THIS PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET, WHICH NOT ALL SENIORS HAVE, SO IT IS REALLY HARD TO THINK ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL WAYS IN WHICH SAMPLES CAN BE BIAS AND THEY CAN, BUT IF WE CAN AVOID IT AT ALL COSTS, THAT IS GREAT. AND PROBABLY SOME PEOPLE IN THAT GROUP WILL RECEIVE A SURVEY, IT IS DEFINITELY A POSSIBILITY.
>> SO, YOU SAID WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER ON THE COMMISSION, IT DOES APPEAR TO ME THAT WE DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THIS, IF THIS IS AN AARP DOCUMENT , IF WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AS A COMMISSION TO PUT OUT OUR OWN SURVEY, IF IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE BY AARP AND TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND MORE SPECIFICITY, IT WOULD BE A MORE EFFECTIVE SURVEY. I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, MOST OF US IN THIS ROOM, I MEAN, I COULD ASK FOR A SHOW OF HANDS, BUT HOW MANY WANT TO
FILL OUT A 15 PAGE SURVEY? >> THERE IS NO WRONG ANSWER, I
PROMISE. >> I HAVE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS OF EDUCATION FOR A LONG TIME -- I DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH TIME, I
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HAVE A LOT TO DO AT HOME, SO ANYWAY.>> THE PROCESS WAS, WE HANDED IT OUT TO EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION, THEY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT, WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS WHICH AARP ALLOWED AND THE BENEFIT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL RESEARCHERS DOING THIS VERSUS US NOVICES WHO HAVEN'T PERFECTED OR PERFORMED ANY OF THESE TYPES OF ASSESSMENTS BEFORE SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TEAMS PROFESSIONAL SUPPORT, MAKING SURE WE HAVE THIS STATISTICALLY VALID INFORMATION , AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
>> I DID HAVE ONE MORE THING TO ADD REALLY QUICK AND CAROL EMAILED ME THIS SO I WANTED TO REFERENCE, THERE WAS, POTENTIALLY WANTING TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES, SO I WILL SAY THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT RISING COSTS OF LIVING WHICH WAS A MAJOR CONCERN, WE COULD ASK A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES IF THAT WOULD BE
HELPFUL AS WELL. >> CHIEF YOUNG HAD A QUESTION
OR COMMENT. >> HOW MANY PEOPLE GO TO IU
ROUGHLY [INDISCERNIBLE] >> SO, ANDREW YOUNG SAYS BASED ON THE DATA FROM EMS, HALF OF THE RUNS GO TO IU NORTH, ANNA,
YOU HAD A QUESTION? >> YES, FOR A RANDOM SAMPLE, WHICH IS IN THEORY WHAT WE WOULD LOVE. THE RANDOM SAMPLE.
>> ARE YOU TRYING TO SURVEY JUST PEOPLE IN CARMEL ?
>> YES, PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF CARMEL THAT HAVE A CARMEL
Z.I.P. CODE. >> OKAY, BUT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH THE HOSPITAL. MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A RESOURCE THAT YOU COULD POOL FOR PEOPLE 50 AND UP IN CARMEL
? >> I WISH, WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO.
>> THERE IS NO DATABASE THAT YOU COULD TAP INTO THAT?
>> WE COULD SEND A LETTER TO LITERALLY EVERYONE IN CARMEL AND SAY IF YOU ARE 50 AND OVER, FILL OUT THE SURVEY, BUT I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE AS CLOSE AS WE CAN GET AND THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF DOLLARS.
>> DIDN'T WE EXPLORE HAMILTON COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR'S --
>> AND ALSO, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HOMEOWNERS AS WELL, SO ANYBODY THAT IS RENTING, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE ANYWHERE BUT EVEN IF IT WAS, THAT WOULD BREAK DOWN RENTERS AND PEOPLE BEING
IN ASSISTED LIVING, TOO. >> EXCUSE ME, WHAT IS THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING FORTH AN AMENDED QUESTIONNAIRE LIKE THIS THAT IS NOT 15 PAGES LONG AND PUT IT ON THE INTERNET OR FACEBOOK OR WHATEVER , IF YOU CAN SIT DOWN AND DO IT IN FIVE MINUTES, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO IT. I KNOW WHEN I WAS AT THE SEMINAR, IT TOOK A WHILE FOR PEOPLE TO GO THROUGH THIS AND IF IT'S NOT CONVENIENT, IT'S JUST NOT CONVENIENT.
>> IT IS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE THAT PEOPLE WILL SEE THE LENGTH OF THE SURVEY AND NOT FILL IT OUT, THAT IS WHY WE TRY TO GET AS HIGH OF A RESPONSE RATE AS POSSIBLE BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A POSSIBILITY. AGAIN, IN ORDER TO GET THE INFORMATION WE ARE LOOKING FOR, IT HAS TO BE THIS LONG. WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC
ADDRESSES ATTACHED. >> THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN USE CENSUS DATA AND THERE'S NO ADDRESS OR PERSONAL IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION WE CAN OBTAIN. CAROL CAN TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT DOES OPEN US UP FOR VARIOUS GRANT OPPORTUNITIES BUT THE DATA ITSELF IS MOST IMPORTANT.
>> SO, I WAS GOING TO BRING FORWARD TONIGHT A GRANT OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR FROM AARP, AND THIS IS ONLY ONE OF SEVERAL GRANTS BUT THIS ONE JUST OPENED
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THIS WEEK, SO WE CAN GET SOME MONEY TO WORK ON PROJECTS THAT WE FEEL ARE IMPORTANT IN THE CITY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS IMPORTANT UNTIL WE GET THESE SURVEYS DONE AND WE KNOW WHAT PEOPLE NEED AND WHAT THEY WANT. SO ONE OF THE BIG MOTIVATIONS FOR US IS TO GET SOME MONEY FOR WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND THE WAY WE CAN IMPROVE THE LIVES OF OUR SENIORS.>> COUNSEL DID FUND SOME MONEY IN THE COUNCIL BUDGET, IN THE MAYOR'S BUDGET THIS YEAR, THE CITY BUDGET FOR THIS COMMITTEE, SO WE WILL LOOK AT HOW WE CAN DEPLOY THAT.
>> WE SHOULD ALSO SAY, JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE, WE HAVE NO FINANCIAL STAKE IN THIS, WE ARE NOT GETTING PAID TO DO THIS, I ASSURE YOU, I AM NOT BIASED TOWARD IU IN THAT WAY AT LEAST.
>> TO HIRE A PROFESSIONAL FIRM TO CONDUCT THIS ASSESSMENT WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE SO WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE THEM AS
PARTNERS. >> AND I'M SO PLEASED THAT THEY ARE PARTNERING FOR US FOR MORE THAN ONE REASON. YOU KNOW THE EXPENSE, AND ALSO THEY ARE GETTING IT DONE IN A VERY TIMELY MANNER, IF WE WOULD DO THIS WITH AN OUTSIDE SOURCE, IT WOULD TAKE US TWO TO THREE YEARS, WE WANT TO GET THIS DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER.
>> THE QUESTION WAS, DOES ACTUAL ACTIVITY BY THE COMMISSION HAVE TO, AND PROJECTS WE MAY PERFORM HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE SURVEY RESULTS? NO. BUT, THAT WILL GUIDE, IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE SURVEY RESULTS TO GUIDE CERTAIN THINGS, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE ARE ALREADY STARTING TO WORK ON NOW. TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND CHUCK HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS, TOO. PRIME LIFE HAS OUR DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES INVOLVED, AND INTERACTING WITH THE CITY, THE CITY IS DOING A TRANSPORTATION SURVEY JUST FOR, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MASS TRANSIT BUT DOOR-TO-DOOR SERVICES, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE WILL GET ADDITIONAL DATA FROM. I'M ON THE HOUSING, THE CHAIR OF THE HOUSING SUBCOMMITTEE, AND TONIGHT IF YOU WATCH THE LAND-USE MEETING, YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ME AND MY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE WORKING ON RELATED TO A NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, SOME CHANGES THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TONIGHT, PRESENTS A DEVELOPMENT WITH FIRST-FLOOR MASTERS THAT PROMOTE AGING IN PLACE. WE HAD A PROPOSAL FOR THE PROJECT HERE WHICH INCLUDED MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT, THE COUNCIL AND I WORKED TO ENSURE THAT ONE WHOLE BUILDING OF THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS AGE RESTRICTED, YOU HAVE TO BE 55 AND OLDER IN ORDER TO LIVE IN THAT DEVELOPMENT, AND IT'LL BE A MINUTE HEIST AS SUCH, AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE ARE WORKING ON AS FAR AS HOUSING, THAT WE ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH. THE MAYOR AND STAFF ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY ANNOUNCE YET, BUT THAT IS A BIG FOCUS OF THE MAYOR AND HIS COUNSEL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO TOUCH ON ANYTHING ELSE, BUT THE POINT IS, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TO DO THESE JUST FOR THE SURVEY BUT THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WILL BE DRIVEN FROM THE RESULTS OF THIS DATA SO IT'S VERY
IMPORTANT TO GET IT DONE. >> OUR COMMITTEES ARE BEGINNING TO FORM, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS IS GETTING THE RIGHT PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT COMMITTEES, SO WE CAN WRITE OUT -- REACH OUT TO THE RIGHT CONSTITUENTS, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THAT OUR COMMITTEES ARE WORKING ON, SO IT IS NOT LIKE WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING IN THE MEANTIME. AND WE WILL BE WORKING ON THESE SURVEY RESULTS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT FROM THESE RESULTS, ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO ASK AND WE MAY HAVE SOME OPEN COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMITTEE OR THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT THEY STILL WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON. SO WE ARE ALL
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WORKING. >> THE QUESTION WAS , SO THIS IS A PILOT JUST TO SHOW THE TYPE OF RESULTS WE CAN SEE FROM THE FULL ASSESSMENT AND THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE TO COMPLETE THE FULL ASSESSMENT?
>> AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING IRP APPROVAL, THAT IS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING NO FUNNY BUSINESS, WE ARE IMPORTED IN THE RESEARCH WORLD, AND IT SHOULDN'T TAKE TOO LONG, THIS IS REALLY LOW STAKES INFORMATION WE ARE COLLECTING, USUALLY WHEN THINGS LIKE THAT TAKE A LONG TIME, I IS IF WE ARE ASKING REALLY INVASIVE QUESTIONS. ONCE WE GET THAT APPROVAL, THEN WE CAN GET OUR DATA SET FROM THE INPC, INDIANA PATIENT NETWORK SOMETHING , I MISSING A WORD, BUT THAT IS WHAT IT IS. ONCE WE GET THAT LIST, WE PICK A RANDOM SAMPLE, I DON'T DO THIS, THE STATISTICIAN PICKS A RANDOM SAMPLE OF THOSE PEOPLE AND WE WILL MAIL OUT THOSE SURVEYS, WE ARE HOPING THAT IS VERY SOON.
WE ARE AT THE MERCY OF THE INDIANA UNIVERSITY IRB . THAT IS THE DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE, SO BASICALLY IN DETERMINING SAMPLE SIZE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T SEND OUT TOO MANY SURVEYS FOR NO REASON, SO WE DON'T NEED TO SURVEY EVERY SINGLE PERSON, THAT IS WHAT IS GREAT ABOUT STATS, YOU CAN HAVE A SMALLER GROUP OF PEOPLE SPEAK TO A BIGGER GROUP, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE SUCH A SMALL NUMBER THAT WE CAN'T RUN THE ANALYSIS WE NEED TO RUN.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE ARE INTERESTED IN WOMEN'S SOCIAL ACTIVITIES, THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH WIDOWED WOMEN, SO AGAIN, A STATISTICIAN WILL DO THE FANCY STATS TO TELL US THE NUMBER ONE -- THE NUMBER THAT WE NEED. AND AS SOON AS WE KNOW THAT, WE
WILL LET YOU KNOW. >> AT ONE POINT, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE CALL AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IS OFF THE
TABLE. >> I THINK THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE WILL DO MAIL-IN OR WE WILL CALL PEOPLE, THE ONLY THING ABOUT CALLING IS IT REQUIRES MORE MANPOWER, AND MORE TIME. IT IS STILL NOT OFF THE TABLE BUT I THINK THE SURVEYS ARE THE WAY TO GO. WE ASK THE Z.I.P. CODE. YES. SO CURRENTLY THE WAY WE ASK QUESTIONS, WE ASK WHAT COMMUNITY YOU ARE FROM, AND FROM MY EXPERIENCE, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUTTING WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD THEY LIVE IN, SOME PEOPLE WILL JUST SAY CARMEL AND WE ALSO ASK THEIR Z.I.P. CODE. WE WILL BE SENDING IT OUT TO THEIR HOMES SO WE WILL KNOW THE ACTUAL ADDRESS.
>> THE QUESTION IS, BECAUSE THE POST OFFICE DOESN'T DESIGNATE A Z.I.P. CODE TO WHAT COMMUNITY YOU LIVE IN, AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO RESPONDED WHEN HANDED OUT SURVEYS TO THE AGING BRAIN CONFERENCE ONLY, SO THAT IS STILL OUT OF 70 PEOPLE THAT
ATTENDED, WE GOT 32 BACK. >> SO, BASICALLY WE BROUGHT
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250-ISH SURVEYS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE FILL THEM OUT OR BROUGHT THEM HOME, AND I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY 20 OF THE PEOPLE COME AND SAY, I'M GOING BACK TO MY COMMUNITY CENTER AND I WANT TO TAKE A CHUNK AND HAVE PEOPLE FILL THEM OUT, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT EVER MADE THEM TO THOSE PEOPLE, BUT LIKE I SAID, I WOULDN'T PUT TOO MUCH STOCK IN THE RESPONSE RATE. AS FAR AS THE Z.I.P. CODES AND COMMUNITIES YOUR INCOME IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT RULES BY WHICH YOU WANT TO DESIGNATE WHO BELONGS TO CARMEL, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. SO WE WILL HAVE ADDRESSES, SO WE CAN, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A CUTOFFSOMEWHERE. >> UNFORTUNATELY THE WAY THAT POST OFFICE WORKS, PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO RECEIVE THE SURVEY JUST BECAUSE OF THE Z.I.P. CODE ISSUE WITH THE POSTAL SERVICE. THERE WAS A BILL THAT WAS POSSIBLY GOING THROUGH CONGRESS, U.S. CONGRESS TO TRY TO FIX THAT WITH THE POSTAL SERVICE AND SOMEHOW WE GOT INSERTED INTO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS AN ISSUE IN CARMEL BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S ENOUGH SENIORS THAT LIVE IN 46033 AND 46322 TO GET A STATISTICALLY VALID SAMPLE SIZE.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION, DURING THIS CAMPAIGN SEASON, I GET HUNDREDS OF TEXT MESSAGES, POLITICAL TEXT MESSAGES WITH QUESTIONNAIRES AND I'M WONDERING, SOMETIMES I WOULD FILL THEM OUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T TAKE VERY LONG, YOU CAN GO THROUGH PRETTY QUICKLY AND PUSH SEND, MIGHT THERE BE A MORE EFFICIENT WAY OF GETTING THIS QUESTIONNAIRE OUT, AND CERTAINLY BEING MORE CONVENIENT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT COST TO DO THAT TYPE OF THING BUT I KNOW IT IS EFFECTIVE. IF IT WASN'T, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE SPENT SO MUCH
MONEY POLITICALLY DOING IT. >> IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
>> I HAVE TWO ANSWERS, THE FIRST IS THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF RESEARCH, NOT POLITICAL AFFILIATION BUT FOR RESEARCH, WE CAN'T DO THAT, THAT IS NOT ALLOWED, SO WE CAN'T SOLICIT
PEOPLE TO SEND THINGS. >> IU , IF YOU HAVE OPTED IN TO RECEIVE IU HEALTH MESSAGES, YES, IU CAN SEND YOU APPOINTMENT REMINDERS AND SUCH. SO, THEY CAN DO THAT. AS RESEARCHERS, WE CANNOT DO THAT AND THE OTHER THING IS, FOR THE POLITICAL TEXT, YOU HAVE TO OPT INTO THOSE, YOU HAD TO INITIATE SOMETHING IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THAT.
>> I'M JUST LOOKING FOR AN EASIER WAY TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAD AROUND 70 PEOPLE AT THIS BRAIN THING, WE PASSED THEM OUT, AND WE TOOK SOME TO PRIME LIFE AND HANDED THEM OUT. AT THIS POINT, OF ALL WE HAVE DONE IN TERMS OF TRYING TO GET THIS 15 PAGE PAPER SURVEY OUT .
>> I WILL SAY, WE DID THIS AGING CONFERENCE AT THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER AND THEN IT WAS THE HOLIDAYS, I PERSONALLY TOOK THREE WEEKS OFF TO SPEND TIME WITH MY CHILDREN, THAT IS WHY, PRIMARILY THE REASON WHY, WE WANTED TO GET THE RESULTS FROM THE PILOT STUDY BACK TO MAKE SURE IT IS GOING WELL. I COULD THINK OF ONE QUESTION TO ADD, MAYBE TWO AND WHEN WE HAVE OUR SAMPLE WE WILL SEND IT OUT, SO THIS WAS THE WAITING PERIOD TO COLLECT THE SURVEYS AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WENT WELL AND WE ARE PREPARED TO SEND OUT THE REAL
ONE. >> WHAT WE CAN TRUST IS THAT THESE ARE PROFESSIONALS THAT DO IT EVERY DAY AND THE INFORMATION WE GET BACK WILL BE STATISTICALLY VALID. YES, SIR.
>> NOW YOU ARE ONLY OBTAINING PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE INTERNET,
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OR ON FACEBOOK, SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE PAST THE PROFESSIONAL OPINION ON HOW TO DELIVER THE SURVEY AND MOVE TO THE NEXT SECTION OF OUR MEETING TODAY, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO, CAROL, IF YOU CAN GIVE A REPORT. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, WE DO APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK. WE ARE EXCITED TO GET THE RESULTS BACK. NEXT WE WILL HAVE A REPORT ON THE APPLICATION TO AARP FOR THE AGE
FRIENDLY COMMUNITY. CAROL? >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WE ALSO HAVE A HEALTH COMMITTEE AND DR. BESTANI IS WORKING WITH THE HOSPITALS IN THE AREA SO WE HAVE THEIR SUPPORT AS WELL. SO, JUSTI MENTIONED ABOUT A GRANT THAT HAS JUST COME OPEN THIS WEEK FROM AARP AND IT IS CALLED THE 2024 AARP COMMUNITY CHALLENGE GRANT. LAST YEAR , THERE WERE 3300 APPLICATIONS THAT APPLIED FOR SOME MONEY FROM AARP, THERE WERE 343 GRAMS THAT WERE GIVEN OUT AS A TOTAL OF $3.8 MILLION , SO I REALLY HOPPED ON THIS, BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD GET SOME MONEY FROM THEM OR AT LEAST APPLY. OUR DOWNSIDE IS THAT OUR COMMITTEE IS FAIRLY NEW SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GOALS AND THINGS IN ORDER TO APPLY, THE APPLICATION HAS TO BE IN BY MARCH 6 WHICH IS THE APPLICATION DATE. THE PROJECT HAS TO BE DONE, THESE ARE FOR PROJECTS AND I WILL EXPLAIN IN A MINUTE, THESE ARE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT MUST BE COMPLETED BY DECEMBER 15TH AND THE AFTER ACTION REPORT IS DUE DECEMBER 31ST, SO YOU CAN SEE WE ARE UNDER A TIME LIMIT HERE. SOME OF THE GRANTS, SOME OF THE PROJECTS THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, IN THE LAST YEAR, THEY WERE NOT NEAR AS ADVANCED AS WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS PARKS AND WALKING TRAILS, BUT SOME OF THE IDEAS WERE CREATING A VIBRANT PUBLIC PLACE, DELIVERING THE RANGE OF TRANSPORTATION WHICH I THINK WE ARE ON TRANSPORTATION AND BABY -- MAY BE BEYOND SOME OF THAT. THEY ARE SUPPORTING DIFFERENT HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND OPTIONS. ONE WOULD BE DIGITAL CONNECTIONS, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT, WE ARE NOT QUITE READY FOR THAT. I THOUGHT THIS WAS INTERESTING, COMMUNITY RESILIENCE, SO IN THE TIME OF DISASTERS, COLD-WEATHER, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS DEVELOPING, A PROGRAM TO HELP, AND COMMUNITY HEALTH AND ECONOMIC HELP. SO THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT AREAS THEY ARE LOOKING AT. WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING AND HEARING FROM OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, SO I'M LOOKING AT PERHAPS A PROJECT THAT WE COULD WORK WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY, SO I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS ABOUT THAT, BUT I WANTED SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION, IF YOU THINK THIS IS WORTH PURSUING. AND A VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD, IF I COULD. ANY
COMMENTS? >> I'M CURIOUS, WHO IS DOING
THE GRANT WRITING? >> STEVE AND I HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT DOING THE GRANTS, AND I HAVE THE APPLICATION, SO ALONG WITH OUR APPLICATION TO THE AARP FOR OUR AGE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY DESIGNATION, STEVE AND I ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT TOGETHER AND GETTING SOMEONE WHO HAS SOME EXPERIENCE
IN GRANT WRITING TO HELP US. >> MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA, IS THERE ANY RISK IN APPLYING FOR DATA READY, FOR THIS AND NOT GETTING ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
>> NO, YOU ARE ALWAYS OPEN TO APPLY.
>> HAVE YOU EVER SEEN WHERE THE CITY GETS A GRANT MORE THAN ONE
>> WHAT IS THE GRANT DEADLINE?
>> MARCH 6. >> BY THE TIME WE HAVE MONTHLY
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MEETINGS, IT IS NOT GIVING US A LOT OF TIME, WE CAN ALWAYS PURSUE IT AND DECIDE IF IT IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO MOVEFORWARD WITH. >> IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T NECESSARILY PREPARED TO PROVIDE IDEAS YET,
MAYBE YOU COULD -- YES? >> AND MAYBE WE COULD BRING IT UP, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT DOING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE PROJECTS THEY ARE TRYING TO WORK ON, WHICH I THINK WE COULD HELP THEM ALONG WITH AND I THINK WOULD ALSO BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR US AS A COMMISSION TO SHOW AARP THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH OTHERS, OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY TO IMPROVE OUR CITY.
>> WHY DON'T WE TABLE THAT AND HAVE THE EMS CHIEF, ANDREW YOUNG COME UP AND HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DO THEIR PRESENTATION AND THAT MIGHT PRESENT SOME IDEAS AND
OPPORTUNITIES FOR US. >> GOOD EVENING, ANDREW YOUNG, I'M GOING TO HAVE BRUCE COME UP AND TALK ABOUT AN EXCITING DEPARTMENT, THE ACCELERATED MOBILE HEALTH PROGRAM, HE IS NOW THE COORDINATOR AND IT IS AN EXCITING PROGRAM WE HAVE
GOING ON. >> I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE ABOUT 2018, AND THIS YEAR THE COUNCIL WAS KIND ENOUGH TO MAKE IT A FULL-TIME POSITION , WE WILL GO TALK TO PEOPLE AND SEE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NONEMERGENCY TYPE SITUATIONS AND GO TO THEIR HOUSE, GO TO WHEREVER THEY LIVE OR IN DIFFERENT PLACES AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT MEETING THEIR NEEDS, RESOURCES THEY MIGHT NEED, WE WILL DO SAFETY INSPECTIONS ON HOUSES THEY WANT, IF YOU HAVE ISSUES ABOUT MEDICATIONS, WE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LOOK THROUGH THOSE THINGS AND HELP THEM DO A WEEK WORTH OF PRESCRIPTIONS , WE DO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING WE CAN TO TRY TO HELP KEEP THEM SAFE IN THEIR HOME AND SO MOST OF THE REFERRALS I GET, WHEN WE GO ON 911 RUNS, THE GUYS WILL SEE IT AND SAY, WOULD YOU FOLLOW-UP WITH THAT PERSON IF THEY ARE HAVING A PROBLEM AND I WILL GO AND MEET WITH THEM AND I WILL TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT POSSIBLE NEEDS THERE ARE, RESOURCES, ONE OF THE BIGGEST RESOURCES FOR SENIORS IN THE COUNTY IS THE SHEPHERD CENTER, I UTILIZED THEM A LOT. IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM OVER 55, I WOULD BECOME VERY WELL FAMILIAR WITH THEM, THEY ARE A GREAT ORGANIZATION WITH A LOT OF GREAT RESOURCES FOR SENIOR ADULTS IN HANDLING IN THE COUNTY. BUT I WILL TRY TO GO TO THEIR HOUSE, WE DO A LITTLE SAFETY INSPECTION IF THEY WILL ALLOW US, LOOK THROUGH THEIR HOUSE AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NO TRIP HAZARDS, THERE'S NOTHING THAT MIGHT POSSIBY CATCH FIRE. A LOT OF THINGS LIKE THAT, WE HAVE CAUGHT PEOPLE, THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PUT THEIR POTATO CHIPS, THEY PUT THEM ON THE OVEN, YOU FORGET AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE BECAUSE YOU FORGOT ABOUT THE BACK OF CHIPS. WE DON'T MAKE PEOPLE DO ANYTHING, WE WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE HOARDING ISSUES, I WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CODE INSPECTION PEOPLE, CODE ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE AND WE TRY TO FIND WAYS TO HELP PEOPLE THROUGH SITUATIONS THAT HAVE OVERWHELMED THEM. BUT, WE TRY TO DO THIS , WE TRY TO TAKE A
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PROACTIVE APPROACH ON TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES AND NOT HAVING TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL ALL THE TIME AND SOMETIMES IT IS SIMPLE THINGS. I CAN'T FIGURE THIS OUT OR I CAN'T DO THIS, AND WE TRY TO HELP THEM FIGURE IT OUT.ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST RUNS, OUR BIGGEST RUN LOAD IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS FALSE -- FALLS. WE HAD AN AVERAGE OF 100 PEOPLE WE GO TO PER MONTH ON FALLS. AND IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR A FEW YEARS, SO WE GOT A GRANT FROM THE STATE AND WE ARE WORKING ON A FALL PREVENTION PROGRAM TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE, EDUCATE THEM ON FALLS, AND TRY TO KEEP THEM UP, AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING READY TO GO TO COMMUNITY CENTERS AND LOCAL INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITIES AND GIVING A PRESENTATION ABOUT THOSE AND TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT HOW THEY CAN BE HELPED WITH THIS, HOW WE CAN HELP THEM. OUR BIGGEST HURDLE IS GETTING THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN A HOME BECAUSE UNLESS THEY GO TO PRIME LIFE, WHENEVER I DO THAT, I HAVE A HARD TIME CATCHING THEM. IT WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD FOR ME NEXT YEAR, TO MAYBE DO THE
DISCUSSION THERE. >> AND WE ALSO HAVE A GREAT REPORTER HEAR FROM OUR LOCAL [INDISCERNIBLE] MAYBE THAT CAN
BE FEATURED IN THE ARTICLE. >> YES, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO HELP PEOPLE OUT, MOST OF THE STUFF THAT WE DO IS WITH THE SENIOR COMMUNITY BUT WE TRY TO HELP ANYBODY THAT NEEDS HELP, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE FACING MEDICAL ISSUES THAT ARE YOUNGER THAN 50 AND WE TRY TO DO EVERY WEEKEND TO HELP THEM AS WELL. THE BIGGEST BLOCK OF PEOPLE THAT WE WORK WITH ARE THE SENIOR ADULTS AND ALL WE WANT YOU TO DO IS LIVE YOUR LIFE AS EASY AS POSSIBLE. YOU HAVE DONE A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE WORLD AND WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GIVE BACK AND HELP YOU OUT. SO I WILL TAKE QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
>> THANK YOU GUYS, TOWARDS THE END OF FEBRUARY, YOU ARE GOING TO PUT ON A SENIOR ACCIDENT PREVENTION CLASS AND A FIRST AID CLASS AND THAT WILL BE HELD AT THE FIRE STATION, THIRD
FLOOR, WHAT IS THAT CALLED? >> THE HEADQUARTERS AT THE FIRE
STATION, ON THE SECOND FLOOR. >> YES, THESE GUYS ARE GREAT, FOR ALL OF THESE GUYS, IF YOU CAN COME, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> ONE THING THAT BRUCE FAILED TO MENTION, EVERYTHING THAT HE DOES, THE SERVICES HE PROVIDES, IT IS ALL FREE, THERE'S NO COST TO THIS, WE ARE NOT BILLING INSURANCE, WE ARE COMING TO SEE YOU ON A FREE BASIS.
>> YOU DIDN'T MENTION YOU ARE WORKING ON A RESOURCE BOOK, AND ALL THE RESOURCES, SO THIS GRANT MONEY, MY BIGGEST CONCERN WAS THE COST OF FUNDING OR THE COST OF GETTING THE BOOK PUBLISHED AND IN PAPER, SO MAYBE THIS GRANT COULD HELP GET THAT BOOK, IT COULD DO BROCHURES ABOUT FALL PREVENTION, THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS IN WHICH WE COULD USE
THAT. >> MATERIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH IS WHY I'M DOING THIS REFERENCE BOOK, I LOVE
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SUKKOT, THEY HAVE A GREAT BOOK, BUT IT IS THAT THICK AND IF YOU LOOK THROUGH IT AND I'M LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC THING, YOU WILL FIND GREENWOOD, AVON, EVERYTHING FROM ALL OF THE COUNTIES, I'M TRYING TO MAKE A REFERENCE BOOK THAT IS CARMEL CENTRIC, WHICH IT GOES INTO HAMILTON COUNTY, DOESN'T USUALLY GO BELOW INDIANAPOLIS AND IT TRIES TO GIVE YOU THE RESOURCES THAT ARE HERE BECAUSE AS WE HAVE WITH THE MOBILITY ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE TALK ABOUT WITH PEOPLE, IT IS GOOD TO BE WHERE WE CAN STAY HOME. A LOT OF PEOPLE TRY TO GET IT TO PRIME LIFE, BECAUSE THEY DON'T GO VERY FAR, OR IF IT IS UBER, IT IS A VERY CHEAP RIDE, I DON'T WANT TO SEE PEOPLE GOING TO GREENWOOD TO GET ALL OF THEIR STUFF. WE TRIED TO MAKE THIS BOOK FOR THAT BUT THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIALS INVOLVED, I HAVE A LOT OF STUFF, WITH THIS FALL PRESENTATION, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A BOOK WITH A LOT MORE, IT IS GOING TO HAVE EXERCISES AND SMALL THINGS LIKE THAT AND SOME HELPFUL HINTS ON WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP STRENGTHEN YOUR BODY AND DO THINGS IN YOUR HOUSE TO HELP YOU NOT FALL BECAUSE WHEN YOU START FALLING, THAT IS WHEN THE MORTALITY RATES OF PEOPLE START GOING UP. YOU HAVE TO KEEP UP YOURSTRENGTH. >> AND THE NICE THING IS, THEY ARE THERE WITH THE PERSON IN THE HOME, THEY CAN GIVE THEM THIS INFORMATION AND HELP GUIDE THEM TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GET THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED. SO YES -- I'M SORRY, THE PROJECT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY DECEMBER, SO THEY ARE ON THEIR
WAY. >> WE'VE HAD THIS GRANT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, WE ARE PAST THE BUILDING PHASE AS FAR AS THE PROGRAM AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO TEACH PEOPLE. WE ARE IN THE PHASE OF FIGURING OUT WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THE TALKS AND MAKING THAT RESOURCE BOOK. THE BUILDING PHASE WAS THE LONG FACE SO WE ARE PROBABLY 60% TO 70% THROUGH WHAT WE ARE DOING, SO IT'LL HELP OUT. THINGS LIKE THAT, AND IT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL WORK WITH CAROL AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS UTILIZED TO HELP THE SENIORS IN THE CITY BECAUSE SOMEBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE MAYORS, THE MAYOR'S SURVEY THAT SHE PUT OUT AND ONE THAT HIT ME THAT REALLY RUN THE BELL WAS IN THE SURVEY, ONLY 36% OF THE RESIDENTS IN CARMEL, SENIOR RESIDENTS KNEW ABOUT RESOURCES THAT WERE AVAILABLE TO THEM IN THE CITY. AND I WAS LIKE OH, MY WORD. ONE, I FELT LIKE I'M NOT DOING MY JOB BUT TWO, I FELT THERE WAS SO MUCH MORE WE COULD DO AND SO MANY MORE PEOPLE WE COULD REACH AND IT'S ONLY 36%, THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WE CAN REACH AND TELL THEM, THERE ARE RESOURCES NOW, THERE'S COUNTY RESOURCES AND WE ARE WORKING ON CITY RESOURCES BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES AROUND YOUR AREA THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST
WILLING TO HELP. >> I WANT TO JUMP IN HERE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND TO CIRCLE BACK, CAROL, I THINK THE ORIGINAL QUESTION TO THE COMMITTEE, SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD TO APPLY FOR A GRANT, BASED ON WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE COULD PARTNER WITH YOU FOR OPPORTUNITIES. THE QUESTION IS, IF WE APPLIED FOR A GRANT, DO YOU HAVE TO DESIGNATE SPECIFICALLY THE PROJECT AT THAT TIME?
>> I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF SOMETHING WE HAVE IN MIND THAT WE WANT TO DO, YES, A PROJECT. AND LITERALLY, I JUST TALKED TO THESE TWO GENTLEMEN JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING , THAT IS HOW NEW THIS IS, IT HAS BEEN IN MY MIND FOR A COUPLE DAYS, WHAT PROJECT COULD WE USE AND THAT CAME TO MIND. SO I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH DEVELOPED FOR WHAT THEY HAVE
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THAT WE CAN TAKE THIS NOW AND DO IT.>> AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO PARTNER WITH YOU.
>> I TOOK THE SURVEY, AND I SAW THAT QUESTION. SO, IT IS A NEED THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS, ESPECIALLY THE SENIOR COMMUNITY. THE LOGISTICS OF GETTING THIS DONE BY MARCH 6 IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE, IN TERMS OF PARTNERING THAT MIGHT BE A
WORTHY CAUSE. >> AND I THINK THEY WOULD BE
VERY WILLING TO HELP ME. >> WE SURE WILL. PUBLIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOBILE INTEGRATIVE HEALTH PROGRAM?
>> IS IT GOING TO BE ONLINE, LIKE A LINK?
>> THE REFERENCE BOOK, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A QR CODE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE TECHNOLOGICALLY SAVVY, AND A WAY TO GET TO IT ONLINE BUT WILL ALSO HAVE IT IN BOOKLET FORM BECAUSE, MY FATHER IS 85 YEARS OLD AND HAS A FLIP PHONE, THERE'S NO TECHNOLOGY IN HIS WORLD. MY MOTHER ON THE OTHER HAND, SHE HAS THE NEWEST IPHONE, SO I KNOW THAT SPECTRUM AND I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, WE WILL TRY TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH.
>> SHE SAID IT IS A LIVING DOCUMENT AND IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WORK ON A LOT, AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN AND FOLLOW-UP AND MAKE SURE THESE WEB ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS ARE UP TO DATE AND IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO KEEP GOING.
>> I WILL PARAPHRASE, BASICALLY WE HAVE THE DATA AND INFORMATION TO APPLY FOR A GRANT IT SOUNDS LIKE, BASED ON WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY DOING WITH THIS
PROGRAM. YES, SIR? >> GREAT. I HAD A GENTLEMAN AT THE LAST MEETING, HE GAVE ME A WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE THAT HAD PENSIONS FROM THE STATE AND A REALLY GREAT WEBSITE FROM THEM AND HE'S NOT HERE TODAY, BUT, THERE HE IS, YES I'M SORRY.
AND I HAVE PASSED THAT ALONG TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN IT, TOO. YES, THANK YOU.
>> AND I SAW SO MANY TIMES, WHEN YOU FALL, THAT IS THE BEGINNING OF YOUR HEALTH GOING DOWN, AND ANY OF YOU THAT HAVE TAKEN THE ANNUAL REVIEW WITH MEDICARE, THE FIRST THING THEY ASK YOU IS HOW MANY TIMES YOU HAVE FALLEN IN THE LAST YEAR, SO THAT IS AT THE TOP OF EVERYONE'S LIST. I CAN'T EXPRESS HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO ALL OF US.
>> I THINK I COULD GET BEHIND THIS IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF WIKI CONTRIBUTION COMPONENT TO THIS, WHERE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY COULD MAKE REFERRALS, THAT COME TO YOU.
>> MY OLD CARD IS TO HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER ON THE BACK OF IT, AND IT SAID CALL US IF YOU NEED US, SO WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY
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TO HAVE ANYBODY CALL US, MY HAND OUT MY CARD TO PEOPLE AND I SAY CALL ME WITH REFERRALS, WE DO THAT. WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE REFERRALS AND SEE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN A CITY, EVEN 074, THAT LIVED OUT IN THE DISTRICT AREAS. BUT WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE ANY REFERRALS OF PEOPLE.>> COULD YOU PROVIDE THAT PHONE NUMBER IF YOU HAVE IT WITH YOU?
>> MY PHONE NUMBER IS 317-571-2606, THAT IS MY OFFICE NUMBER, YOU CAN LEAVE A MESSAGE IF I'M NOT THERE AND I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO RETURN YOUR CALL. THAT IS MY NUMBER, ALSO, MIHP@CARMEL.IM.GOV , AND PHONE NUMBER 317-571-2606.
>> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, YOU CERTIFY PEOPLE THROUGH A CLASS TO BE ABLE TO BE AN ASSET TO DO SOME OF THESE ACCIDENT PREVENTION CLASSES AND FIRST AID TYPE CLASSES AND THAT TYPE
OF THING? >> WE DON'T CERTIFY PEOPLE PER SE, ALL OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE EMTS , SOME OF US ARE PARAMEDICS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS FOR PARAMEDICS BUT WE HAVE QUITE A FEW, SO WE ARE TRAINED, WE HAVE YEARLY TRAININGS, EVERY TWO YEARS WE HAVE TO RECERTIFY WITH THE STATE FOR LICENSURE. SO WE TAKE THAT KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE FROM ALL THE TRAINING AND WE PUT ON THESE CLASSES. SOME CLASSES REQUIRE ADDITIONAL TRAINING BUT, IT IS JUST FROM OUR KNOWLEDGE AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 21 YEARS, WE ARE DOING KNOWLEDGE UNDER OUR BELTS TO DO OUR BEST. AND IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE TO TALK TO ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS, OBVIOUSLY WE WILL MAKE SURE WE HAVE RESEARCHED THAT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GIVING PEOPLE GOOD INFORMATION.
>> THE KIDS AT CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE 15 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE, SO IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR AN HONORS DIPLOMA, TO GRADUATE FROM CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL , AND THEY WOULD BE A GOOD RESOURCE FOR YOU GUYS IF YOU COULD GET THEM TO TRAINING AND THEY CAN HELP TAKE CARE OF THEIR PARENTS AND AUNTS AND UNCLES AND THAT TYPE OF THING, IT WOULD BE A GOOD USE OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS.
>> RECENTLY WE TEAMED UP WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL AND WE ARE SETTING UP A PARTNERSHIP TO BRING THE KIDS IN AND DO SOME INTERNSHIPS WITH US, BUT TO YOUR POINT, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE FOR STUDENTS, WE WOULD
BE UP FOR IT. >> MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE HOW YOU ARE USING THIRD SPACES, HOW ARE YOU LEVERAGING CHURCHES OR MEDICAL OFFICES, PLACES WHERE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE FALLING CAN GET REFERRALS, FOR EXAMPLE, A PASTOR AT A CHURCH OR PRIEST AT A CHURCH OR COMMUNITY PERSON. I THOUGHT
THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD -- >> WE HAVE IT -- WE HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO THE CHURCHES, I REACHED OUT SOME OF THE ONES THAT HAD THE FOOD PANTRIES AND TALKED TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY DO AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OF THEM IN THE CITY THAT I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT. AND THAT'S A MATTER OF, YES THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO GIVE THEM STUFF, WE ARE GOING TO REACH OUT TO ETERNITY FOR THE FREE CLINIC, AS FAR AS IF THEY HAVE PEOPLE WITH REFERRALS THAT NEED TO BE SEEN AFTERWARDS. BUT, YES, THAT IS A VERY GOOD IDEA AND SOMETHING WE
CAN DEFINITELY UTILIZE. >> I MEANT AS GRANT FUNDING, PART OF THE GRANT COMPONENT WOULD BE HOW TO EXPAND YOUR REACH. HOW WOULD THAT SUPPORT YOUR ENDEAVORS TO PREVENT
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FALLS. >> A CHURCH WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE IF I COULD GET THE PASTOR OR WHOEVER IS CHARGED IN THE CONGREGATION TO MEET SOME NIGHT AND I COULD GO THROUGH THE FALL PREVENTION PROGRAM, ABSENTLY, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SHE ASKED, COULD I CONSIDER A LIBRARY? I DON'T LIVE IN CARMEL SO I WASN'T REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE LIBRARY UNTIL THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, SO I DO KNOW THERE IS A MEETING PLACE NOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR CAPABILITIES ARE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT -- ARE THEY GOOD? OKAY, THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD UTILIZE AS WELL, YES.
>> COULD THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE LOOK AT HELPING ? THAT SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY WHEN IT COMES TO PULLING THE
TRIGGER. >> WE HAVE SOME PAMPHLETS THAT ARE BEING MADE AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PROCESS, ONCE WE GET PAST THOSE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO THESE PROJECTS, WE HAVE THE MATERIAL TO GIVE TO
THEM. >> THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ALL ABOUT EXCELLENCE, THEY DO EVERYTHING TOP-NOTCH, I GUESS TO PROVIDE A SAMPLE MOTION FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER IS THAT WE WOULD MOVE TO APPLY FOR A GRANT FROM AARP TO SUPPORT THE MOBILE INTEGRATIVE HEALTH PROGRAM, EDUCATIONAL AND RESOURCE MATERIALS FOR THE PROGRAM, SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN IMMEDIATE NEED, IT IS ALREADY PRETTY MUCH, THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN DEVELOPED, WE ARE SUPPORTING THE EXISTING PROGRAM THAT IS READY TO ROLL OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
>> CAN WE SAY THE DATA WE HAVE, 36% ARE NOT AWARE, OR WAS IT
THE REVERSE ? >> IT WAS ONLY 36% WERE AWARE OF WHAT RESOURCES WERE AVAILABLE TO THEM IN THE CITY
OF CARMEL. >> THE DATA WE HAVE FROM THE PILOT, IS THAT SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO GET THROUGH THIS ONE
? >> MAYBE WE COULD NOTE IT IN THE PILOT BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY TAKE THE INFORMATION FROM THE COMMUNITY-WIDE SURVEY TO SUBSTANTIATE THE GRANT APPLICATION. SO, AS THE CHAIR, TYPICALLY DON'T MAKE MOTIONS.
I DON'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE WITH ROBERT.
>> IF I MAY. I WILL SPEAK UP AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER AND MOVE THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL OF THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT AND SUPPLEMENT THE ONGOING WORK WITH THEIR PROJECT. I WOULD MOVE TO USE THIS PROPOSAL TO JOIN THAT PROPOSAL AS A PART OF OUR GRANT QUEST.
>> THANK YOU, SIR, WE HAVE A MOTION BY JOHN AND SECOND BY ANNA. FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WILL CALL THE QUESTION.
>> WILL WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO SEE WHAT THE GRANTS FOCUS IS
BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING? >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I WILL DISTRIBUTE AS MUCH INFORMATION WHEN I GET THAT INFORMATION, SO I AGREE WITH THAT MOTION, WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO AMEND IF WE NEED TO, OR ACCORDING TO WHAT AARP SAYS ACCORDING TO THE GRANT REQUIREMENTS.
>> AND DID I MAKE THIS APP, OR DOES THE CITY HAVE A GRANT --
>> I HAVE TO TALK WITH HER, I'M SORRY I FORGOT THAT, YES.
>> SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING JOHN'S MOTION SAY AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES. NEXT WE WILL MOVE TO NEW BUSINESS, CHUCK?
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>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT, SOME OF YOU I THINK ARE MEMBERS OF MY FACEBOOK GROUP, CARMEL SENIORS SPEAK, WE STARTED AT THE END OF AUGUST WITH ONE PERSON AND WE ARE UP TO ABOUT 500 AS OF THIS MORNING SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON, AND I JUST FINALIZED A PLANETARIUM SHOW COMING UP AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, I AM IN PROCESS OF WORKING ON THE SECOND TOUR AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, I'VE GOT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GOING TO DO A FALL ACCIDENT PREVENTION AND FIRST AID CLASS AND I ALSO HAVE A PERSONAL HOME SECURITY COURSE COMING UP SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING, I'VE GOT A FITNESS GROUP AT THE DANCE CLUB OUT ON MAIN STREET, AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING OUT REGULARLY, WALKING AND DOING MY PROGRAM, SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE MEMBERS, I APPRECIATE IT, AND IF I CAN GET OTHER PEOPLE TO JOIN AND I THINK WE ARE MOVING ALONG, THANKS.
>> AS YOU KNOW, CHUCK STARTED HIS OWN FACEBOOK GROUP AND IT'S NOT A COMMITTEE OF THE MAYOR'S ADVISORY COMMISSION ON SENIOR LIVING, THAT IS SOMETHING HE IS DOING ON HIS OWN, SO IF YOU SUPPORT HIM, AS YOU WISH AND AS YOU HAVE, BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT IS A SEPARATE ENTITY AND ORGANIZATION AND THE MAYOR'S ADVISORY COMMISSION ON SENIOR
LIVING. >> WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO MAYBE MAKE A MOTION TO JUST TALK ABOUT OFFICIAL CITY BUSINESS AND NOT THINGS THAT ARE SIDEBARS THAT ARE INDEPENDENT PROJECTS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON FOR THE
BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY? >> WAS THAT A MOTION?
>> I WOULD SAY THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE NOT ALIGNED WITH WHAT THE MAYOR CALLED US TO DO, ALTHOUGH THEY COULD BE VERY IMPORTANT BUT IF THEY ARE NOT MAYORAL BUSINESS, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THIS IS THE RIGHT FORM TO TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS. SO MAYBE IT IS
MORE A QUERY THAN A MOTION. >> SO CONCERNING JUST THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA RELATED TO THE COMMISSION?
>> YES, ANY NEW BUSINESS WOULD BE THINGS THAT REQUIRE THAT THE COMMITTEE DISCERN OR DISCUSS NEXT STEPS RATHER THAN RECAPPING INDIVIDUAL ACHIEVEMENTS AS VALUABLE AS THEY ARE, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONSIDER NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE DURING THIS PARTICULAR MEETING.
>> THERE IS A MOTION, IT WOULD REQUIRE A SECOND.
>> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. >> ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING LISA'S MOTION SAY AYE . ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESSTO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION? SEEING NONE, I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> I WILL SAY, I HAVE FREE TICKETS
>> >> HE COMPLETELY FORGOT. SO, THERE'S EIGHT TICKETS TO PETER SICKLE AT 8:00 P.M. FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 7TH, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, COME TALK TO CAROL AND SHE WILL GET YOU
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.