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>>> GOOD EVENING. IT IS 5:15. I AM CALLING TO ORDER THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS HEARING OFFICER MEETING FOR MONDAY, MARCH 24TH, 2025. LET'S SEE. DO WE NEED REPORTS, ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM
DEPARTMENT OR LEGAL COUNCIL? >> I HAVE NONE.
[C. (V) Perma Pools Sign Variance.]
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE WILL GO STRAIGHT TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO, WHEN I CALL YOUR DOCKET NUMBER, PLEASE COME UP AND PRESENT. LET'S SEE, PERMIT POOLS SIGN VARIANCE, PZ2030114 V , REQUESTING TO SIGN , AND ONE IS ALLOWED. GO AHEAD AND PUSH THE BUTTON. IT WILL TURN ON.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. THIS IS FOR DOCKET NUMBER PC 2023 00114V. SO, I AM HERE TO REQUEST A SECOND SIGN FOR A LOCATION. I HAD A PICTURE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT POWERPOINT, DOES IT COME UP WITH THAT KIND OF STUFF? MAYBE NOT.
>> CAN WE GET IT UP ON THE SCREEN?
>> DO YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL COPY YOU ARE TRYING TO DISPLAY?
>> IT WAS THE THING THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE NOTICE, LIKE ON THE EMAIL THAT WENT OUT TO EVERYONE.
>> OH, IN THE PACKET? >> IF WE CAN'T GET IT UP --
>> I HAVE IT. I READ IT. IT WAS IN THE PACKET.
>> REQUESTING SIGN VARIANCE FOR A SECOND --
>> RIGHT HERE -- >> WHAT SIDE? OKAY. SO, CURRENTLY WE DO HAVE ONE MONUMENT SIGN FOR THE BUILDING ON MICHIGAN ROAD . AND WE ARE REQUESTING A SECOND ONE FOR OUR BUILDING. OUR BUILDING SITS PRETTY FAR BACK FROM THE ROAD.
IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR SOME PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY SEE US.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY TO REQUEST A SECOND SIGN.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE -- YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SIT DOWN. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PETITION? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, LET'S GO TO
THE DEPARTMENT REPORT, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU. PLANNING STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS VARIANCE REQUEST. THE -- IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE COMPLEX THERE WHERE YOU COME IN OFF THE ROAD. THERE IS THIS BUILDING AND ONE BEHIND IT. THIS WOULD HELP PATRONS IDENTIFY WHICH BUILDING IS WHICH ONCE THEY GET INTO THE SITE. THANK
YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAVE REVIEWED ALL THE MATERIALS, AND I AM GOING TO GLENN GRANT THE VARIANCE REQUEST WITH THE FINDINGS AND FACTS SUBMITTED BY
[C. (V) Dinges Garage Variances]
THE PETITIONER. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE, I WILL MAYBEGET THIS WRONG. DINGESS? >> THANK YOU. OH, HI. NUMBER PC 20400219V FOR A DETACHED GARAGE ADDITIONAL SIZE.
>> GO AHEAD. >> GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, I AM RICK LORENZ, I AM AN ATTORNEY WITH NELSON AND FRANKENBERGER, I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF KRISTIN AND NATHAN DINGESS. THEY FILED A PETITION TO ALLOW FOR OVERSIZED OVER THE UGO REQUIREMENT VARIANCE FOR A DETACHED GARAGE. ON THE SCREEN HERE IS A SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE EXISTING HOUSE, THIS LOCATION, AND THE PROPOSED GARAGE IS HERE IN THIS LOCATION.
WHEN THE FAMILY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, THEY HAD THOUGHTS OF BEING ABLE TO EXPAND THEIR ACTIVE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY USE.
THEY ARE KAYAKERS, BIKERS, WHATNOT. AND THEY ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF CARS THAT THEY MAINTAIN INCLUDING AN OLD CAR RIGHT NOW THAT THEY OWN THAT WAS THEIR OWN GOALS THAT IS STORED IN AN OFF-SITE LOCATIO. SO, IN TRYING TO UTILIZE THE PROPERTY THAT THEY CURRENTLY OWN AS OTHERS DO IN THE CITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY CAME UP WITH THE IDEA TO BUILD A DETACHED GARAGE. AS STAFF REPORT INDICATES, THE GARAGE IS GOING
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TO BE SIMILAR IN EXTERIOR AND OINTMENTS TO THEIR CURRENT HOUSE SO IT BLENDS IN TO THE EXISTING -- THERE IS THE FRONT AND BACK.AND THERE ARE THE TWO SIDES. SO IT WILL LOOK VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING HOME. UP HERE, I HAVE A MAP OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS WITH APPROXIMATE LOCATION WHERE THE ATTACHED GARAGE WOULD BE FOR SOME REFERENCE, THIS IS A PICTURE TAKEN FROM THEIR HOUSE AT THIS LOCATION LOOKING THIS WAY, SOUTH. THIS GREEN OUTLINE HERE IS WHERE THE GARAGE WOULD BE.
AND THIS PICTURE, HERE, IS TAKEN FROM THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE SHOWING THE DIRECTION TOWARDS THE COMMON AREA, AND THIS DIRECTION WITH HOW IT WOULD LOOK AS THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS AS TO PEOPLE'S VIEWS OF BEING BLOCKED BY THE ADDITION OF THIS GARAGE OUTLINED HERE IN BLACK IS APPROXIMATELY THE FOOTPRINT OF THE GARAGE, IT WOULD EXTEND UP THIS WAY. THIS IS FROM BASICALLY THAT NEIGHBORS CORNER OF THEIR PROPERTY , APPROXIMATELY THIS LOCATION LOOKINGTHIS WAY. THE STAFF REPORT HAD INDICATED THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE QUESTIONS OPEN. WE WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE.
ONE BEING THE H AWAY , AS FAR AS MY RESEARCH HAS INDICATED, AND THEY HAVE TALKED TO OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MUCH LONGER THERE IS NO A CONTROLS OVER THIS PARTICULAR SECTION. THERE WERE SOME OTHER CONTROLS AT ONE POINT IN TIME.
IT SEEMS THE CITY ANNEXED THIS PROPERTY. WHEN THE CITY ANNEXED IT , WHATEVER CONTROLS OR RESTRICTIONS EXISTED WERE GONE AT THAT POINT IN TIME. I COULDN'T FIND ANY DOCUMENTATION TO SUPPORT THAT BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD REGARDING COVENANTS. THERE WAS ALSO SOME ISSUE OR SOMETHING BROUGHT UP, STAFF BROUGHT UP, THAT THE FENCE ON THE BARN ENCROACHED ON THE ADJOINING PROPERTY. AND THIS LOCATION, THERE IS A FENCED HERE. AND THERE IS A STORAGE BARN OVER HERE. THIS IS ALL OWNED BY THE VILLAGE OF MOUNT CARAMEL INK WHICH CONTROLS ONLY THE SWIMMING POOL AND TENNIS AREA. THERE HAS BEEN A LONG-STANDING AGREEMENT THAT THESE TWO ITEMS CAN ENCROACH ON THE PROPERTY. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED BY THIS ENTITY THAT OWNS THIS PROPERTY AND NOT, UNFORTUNATELY, BY ANY OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AGAIN, BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND ANY COVENANTS THAT EXISTED. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE RIGHT NOW THAT IS UNIVERSAL TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, MERELY SOMETHING THAT THIS ENTITY WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS INDIVIDUALLY OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT THIS HEARING IS ABOUT. AND ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WAS BROUGHT UP POTENTIALLY WAS DRAINAGE. AS YOU ARE AWARE FROM OTHER MATTERS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE YOU, DRAINAGE IS ALWAYS THE ISSUE THAT THE CITY LOOKS AT. THEY DON'T WANT MORE DRAINAGE, MORE RUNOFFS TO BE ALLOWED ON ADJOINING PROPERTIES. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT ALREADY OCCURS BECAUSE THE NATURAL CURVATURE OF THE LAND IN THIS AREA, IT'S AN OLDER AREA OF CARAMEL. SO, DRAINAGE WAS NOT NECESSARILY AT THE TIME ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS. BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU COME IN WITH A PERMIT TO BUILD AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING IS THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT LOOKS AT THAT AND WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY MORE DRAINAGE OR ANY FUTURE DRAINAGE IS CONTAINED AND TAKEN OFF OF THE PROPERTY, NOT PLACING A BURDEN ON THE ADJOINING OWNERS, AND IN THIS CASE, THEY ARE FULLY AWARE OF THAT AND WHATEVER CARAMEL ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT SAYS THEY NEED TO DO THEY WILL ABIDE BY IN ORDER TO GET THE PERMIT. SO, WE THINK WE HAVE ADDRESSED ALL OF THE STAFF'S QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP. WE ARE TRYING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS BY ADDRESSING THE DRAINAGE ISSUE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT NOT EVERY PETITION IS LOOKED FAVORABLY UPON BY NEIGHBORS 100%, BUT IN USING THEIR OWN PROPERTY AND TRYING TO EXPAND WHAT THEY DECIDED TO BE THERE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND STORAGE AND WHATNOT, THIS IS THE OPTION THEY COME UP WITH IS THIS GARAGE. WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, APPRECIATE STAFF LOOKING INTO THIS AS THEY ALWAYS
DO, AND GO FROM THERE. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST THIS PETITION? RAISE YOUR HAND, PLEASE, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK. JUST ONE PERSON? HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY SPEAK? JUST ONE? OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. GO ON, COME ON UP. OH, THREE MINUTES IS FINE. THANK
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YOU. GO AHEAD. >> HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD OF ZONING, MY NAME IS RON DEAN, 566 NEW MEMORY LANE, I AM A RESIDENT OF OUR LADY MOUNT CARAMEL. MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN THE MOUNT CARAMEL NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 46 YEARS IN TWO SEPARATE HOMES. OUR VILLAGE IN MOUNT CARAMEL NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN RECOGNIZED AND APPRECIATED FOR ITS LARGE LOTS AND OPEN AREAS WITHOUT OBSTRUCTION. WE HAVE A SIX ACRE COMMON GROUND FOR OUR POOL, CLUBHOUSE, AND PLAYGROUND AS NEIGHBORS SURROUNDING THIS AREA, WE DO NOT WANT ANYTHING OBSTRUCTING THIS VIEW. VILLAGE IN MOUNT CARAMEL WAS FEATURED IN THE 2006 INDIANAPOLIS MONTHLY MAGAZINE AS ONE OF THE BEST KEPT SECRETS IN HAMILTON COUNTY BY REALTORS. REALTORS STILL USE THIS AS A SELLING POINT TODAY. WE HAVE ALMOST 500 HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PRACTICALLY ALL HAVING TWO-CAR ATTACHED GARAGES , AND ONLY A FEW THREE CAR ATTACHED GARAGES. WE WOULD QUESTION THE DINGESS'S TRUE INTENT IN JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS ADDITIONAL DETACHED 2.5 CAR GARAGE, I REPEAT, DETACHED 2.5 CAR GARAGE. ONLY A HUSBAND AND WIFE RESIDE IN THIS FOUR BEDROOM HOUSE THAT ALREADY HAS A TWO CAR ATTACHED GARAGE WITH A BASEMENT AND A MINIBAR. WHY AREN'T THEY USING THE EXISTING SPACE FOR STORAGE LIKE THE OTHER 500 NEIGHBORS THAT RESIDE HERE? PERHAPS IF THEY NEED THIS MUCH STORAGE ABOVE AND BEYOND, THEY SHOULD LOOK OUTSIDE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SOMEWHERE IN THE COUNTRY WHERE OUTBUILDINGS ARE MORE THE NORM. WITHOUT A STRICT H AWAY, THE VILLAGE OF MOUNT CARAMEL HAS LIVED BY A CODE OF ETHICS TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS IS. YOUR DECISION TO ALLOW A DETACHED STRUCTURE SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST DETACHED STRUCTURE OF ITS KIND , AND IT WOULD FOREVER CHANGE THE ATTRIBUTE -- DUTY OF OUR RESPECTED NEIGHBORHOOD.
AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST DETACHED STRUCTURE OF ITS KIND RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED. THANK YOU.
>> JUST NOTE, THERE IS NO OUTBURST OR CLAPPING HERE. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. WE WILL GO TO DEPARTMENT
REPORT, PLEASE. >> PETITIONER, REBUTTAL, FIVE
MINUTES. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M
SORRY, GO AHEAD. >> I UNDERSTAND NEIGHBORS CONCERNED WHEN THERE IS A CHANGE. ITALY'S DOES HAPPEN.
THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD POINT OUT IS , THE LOCATION OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, I'M TRYING TO FIND MY MAP. IT REALLY DOES ONLY IMPACT POTENTIALLY ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR PROPERTIES. AND IF THE NEIGHBORS WANT TO DISCUSS THE IMPACT , VIEWS AND WHATNOT, WE UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT IN THIS CASE THERE ARE VERY LIMITED VIEWS THAT ARE IMPACTED IN THIS PETITION BEFORE
YOU. THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NOW,
THE DEPARTMENT REPORT, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU. THE PETITIONER HAS REQUESTED A DETACHED GARAGE. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE 28 BY 36, AND THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED IS 24 BY 30. ALSO, THERE IS A RECENT STANDARD IN THE ORDINANCE WITHIN THE PAST I WOULD SAY 35 YEARS OR SO WHERE THE TOTAL COMBINED SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE GROUND FLOOR AREA OF ALL ACCESSORY BUILDINGS CANNOT EXCEED 75% OF THE GROUND FLOOR AREA OF THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING OR THE HOUSE. AND 125% IS REQUESTED. THIS GARAGE WILL COMPLEMENT THE COLORS AND MATERIALS OF THE EXISTING HOUSE, AND IT WILL BE CITED KIND OF TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE HOUSE, BUT NOT RIGHT ON THE SIDE OR REAR PROPERTY LINES. PLANNING STAFF IS SUPPORTED OF THIS VARIANCE AS LONG AS THE REMAINING REVIEW COMMENTS ARE ADDRESSED IN PROJECT DOCS WHICH IS OUR ONLINE REVIEW SOFTWARE.
AND WE DID ALSO CALCULATE , I GUESS, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IF THIS GARAGE WERE NOT BUILT IN THE CURRENT SCENARIO, AND IT IS AROUND 43%. SO, THEY CAN HAVE UP TO 75% . HOPEFULLY, THAT ANSWERS
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ALL YOUR QUESTIONS. I THINK ALSO IT IS A ONE-STORY STRUCTURE, I THINK ORIGINALLY IT WAS 2, AND IT WAS REDUCED DOWN TO ONE.PLANNING STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE VARIANCE. THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. SO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE MY FACTS STRAIGHT. SO, RIGHT NOW, THE STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY OTHER THAN THE MAIN HOUSE COVER -- THEY ARE 43% OF THE SIZE OF THE MAIN HOUSE? IS THAT WHAT YOU -- DID I UNDERSTAND THAT
CORRECTLY? >> IF YOU GIVE ME A MINUTE I CAN ADD IN THE SHED WHICH IS VERY SMALL. IT'S PROBABLY 50 OR LESS
IN THERE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. AND SO, THE MAXIMUM IN THE UD OH IS 24 BY 30. AND 28 BY 36 IS REQUESTED.
SO, WHAT PERCENTAGE , I FEEL LIKE WE ARE DOING SOME STORY PROBLEMS HERE. WHAT PERCENTAGE IF THEY DID A 24 BY 30 DETACHED GARAGE AS IS STATED IN THE UD OH, WHAT PERCENTAGE WOULD THAT BE COMBINED WITH -- I WILL KEEP TALKING AND LET YOU DO MATH -- WITH THE SHED AND THE CURRENT GARAGE?
>> IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW AND YOU WANT TO SHARE SO ANGIE DOESN'T DO MATH. DO YOU KNOW? OKAY. WE WILL WAIT.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MAP IS CORRECT. IT MIGHT BE 108%.
>> 108%. >> THAT IS REALLY ROUGH. I WOULD
HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK. >> OKAY, OKAY. THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. OKAY. SO, IT WOULD STILL BE WELL OVER THE 75%. OKAY. SO, I KNOW THERE WERE COMMENTS ABOUT THE MINIBAR AND FENCE OVER THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THE PETITIONER STATED THIS DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT. SO, I WON'T BE ADDRESSING THAT AT ALL. OKAY. SO, FOR THE DRAINAGE, DO WE KNOW, DOES THE PETITIONER KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE ISSUE? ARE THOSE THE COMMENTS THAT ARE IN PROJECT DOCS RIGHT
NOW? >> PARTIALLY, YES. THEY ARE WORKING ON TRYING TO DETERMINE THE BASE LEVEL OF WHAT WOULD BE THE GROUND OF THE GARAGE AND FIGURE OUT FROM THERE WHERE THE DRAINAGE WOULD NEED TO GO. BUT THAT IS PART OF THE OPEN ISSUE WITH THE REVIEW OF THE PERMIT. YES.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO, I AM HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY EXISTING TO WARRANT BUILDING A STRUCTURE THAT PUTS YOU EVEN WITHIN THE GUIDELINE OF THE MAXIMUM SIZE, STILL PUTS YOU OVER THE 75% THAT IS ALLOWED. AND SO, I AM NOT GOING TO GRANT THIS. SO, THIS IS DENIED. AND WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, WE WILL DRAW UP FINDINGS OF FACTS, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT WITH OUR CITY STAFF AFTER THE MEETING. THANK YOU. OKAY. MOVING ONTO THE NEXT ONE,
[C. (SE) Larson Short Term Residential Rental Renewal]
DOCKET NUMBER PZ202500019SE LARSON SHORT-TERM RESIDENTIALRENEWAL. >> OKAY. MY NAME IS CHRISTINE LARSON. AND I RESIDE AT 377 PATRICIA COURT IN WOODLAND SPRINGS. AND I AM HERE TO REQUEST A SPECIAL EXCEPTION OF VARIANCE TO OPERATE AN AIR B&B OUT OF MY HOME. WE HAVE DONE THIS FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE INFORMATION HAS ALREADY BEEN, YOU KNOW, GIVEN TO JOE AND ANGELA, RIGHT? OKAY. SO, THIS IS AN AIR B&B THAT WE DO IN OUR HOME. MY HUSBAND AND I ARE EMPTY-NESTERS. IT'S A 4400
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SQUARE-FOOT RANCH. AND WE RENT OUT THE LOWER LEVEL TO GUESTS .IT'S A VERY NICE CONVERSION. IT'S A LOVELY HOBBY FOR ME, AND IT IS ALSO A WAY BECAUSE WE ARE GOING INTO RETIREMENT, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO LIVE IN OUR HOME. WE LIMIT THE GUESTS TO A NUMBER OF FOR. 4. PRIMARILY, FAMILIES RENT FROM US. THERE IS NO CHANGE TO OUR HOME AT ALL. IT'S A LOVELY, LOVELY RANCH HOME, BRICK. OUR GUESTS PARK IN OUR DRIVEWAY, SO THERE IS NO OBSTRUCTION IN THE STREET. WE ARE COMMITTED TO BEING AT HOME WHILE OUR GUESTS ARE THERE. WE DON'T RENT IT OUT AND LEAVES.
SO, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE. WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF FUN WITH IT, AND TO SAY WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED BY THE GUESTS THAT WE HAVE HAD , AND IN RETURN, IT HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL EXCHANGE. SO, WE HAVE HAD A REALLY GOOD TIME WITH IT. THAT IS MY REQUEST.
OKAY, THANK YOU. >> DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PETITION? OKAY. WE WILL GO TO THE DEPARTMENT REPORT, PLEASE, ANGIE.
>> THANK YOU. PLANNING STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS RENEWAL REQUEST, AND WE DID CHECK WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT.
THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS SITE IN THE PAST YEAR. ALSO, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY NEGATIVE -- FROM
THE PUBLIC. >> THANK YOU. GIVEN THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMPLAINTS AND THE UD OH INSTRUCTIONS BE TO LOOK UPON THIS WITH FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IT IS A RENEWAL, I WILL -- AND -- AND THE PETITIONER CONTINUES TO ABIDE BY I THINK IT WAS CONDITIONS OF A REGARDING THE NUMBER OF GUESTS AND THEY REMAIN IN THE HOME, SO I WILL APPROVE THIS. AND IT IS APPROVED FOR ANOTHER ONE YEAR. AND ALSO WITH THE ADOPTION THE FINDINGS OF FACT. THANK YOU. OKAY. VARIANCE
[C. (V) Drucker Pool Setbacks Variance. ]
DOCKET NUMBER PZ 20500023V. >> HI, THERE. GOOD EVENING. I AM THE OWNER AT 1225 SKY TAG DRIVE IN GRAND NEIGHBORHOOD, AS EXPLAINED IN OUR SUBMISSION WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A SMALL POOL AND SPA IN OUR BACKYARD. WE HAVE A SMALL BACKYARD ENCUMBERED BY A DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND A TRAIL EASEMENT, BUT WE HAVE IT RATIONALLY DESIGNED TO RECOGNIZE THOSE EASEMENTS AND WORK AROUND THAT. WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ENCUMBERING THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT AT ALL, THAT IS CONFIRMED BY THE HAMILTON COUNTY SURVEYOR THAT THOSE MATERIALS RE IN THE PACKET. WE ARE ONLY ASKING FOR A THREE FOOT SETBACK VARIANCE FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE AND FOR A FIVE FOOT VARIANCE FROM THE SIDELINE, SIDE PROPERTY LINE, THE NEIGHBOR AFFECTED BY THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE VARIANCE SUBMITTED A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF GRANTING THE VARIANCE WHICH IS IN OUR PACKET AS WELL. AND I THINK THAT COVERS IT. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF BOULDERS THAT WERE INSTALLED AT THE TIME OUR HOUSE WAS BUILT WHICH WE WEREN'T PARTICIPATING IN. THEY HAVE NOT CAUSED ANY PROBLEMS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE DECORATIVE OR FOR RETAINAGE, WE WILL REMOVE THOSE BOULDERS.
-- AS REQUESTED BY THE SURVEYOR. THIS IS ALL OF THEIR RENDITIONS.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS IN THE PACKET. THERE WE GO. THERE WILL BE NO TREES IN THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT. THE WALL WILL CONTINUE HERE. THE SPOT WILL CONTINUE HERE. THE POOL WILL GO TO THIS AREA, THE EXTENSION OF THE ROOF LINE HAS BEEN PROFESSIONALLY DESIGNED TO RESPECT ALL THE EASEMENTS, AND, YEP. WE WILL
WORK WITHIN THAT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PETITION? ALL RIGHT, THE DEPARTMENT REPORT, PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU. AS THE PETITIONER STATED, THE BACKYARD IS ENCUMBERED WITH SEVERAL EASEMENTS WHICH LIMITS WHERE THEY CAN PLACE THIS POOL AND DECK AREA , AND PLANNING STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE . AND THAT'S ALL WE
HAVE. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK
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YOU. I APPRECIATE THE LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBOR. THAT IS HELPFUL. WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT, IT LOOKED VERY CLOSE. VERY CROWDED. SO, I'M GLAD THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. AND YOU HAVE GOT A APPROVAL AS WELL, AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE ADDRESSED ALL THE OTHER COMMENTS INCLUDING THE BOULDERS OR ROCKS, WHATEVER THEY ARE. SO, I WILL APPROVE THIS VARIANCE WITH ADOPTION OF THE FINDINGS AND FACTS SUBMITTED BY THE PETITIONER. ALL RIGHT, OUR[C. (V) Spring Mill Shops Sign Variance. ]
FINAL ITEM, SPRING MILL SHOPS SIGN VARIANCE DOCKET NUMBER PTZ025 0038V. >> GOOD EVENING, SEAN CURRAN WITH 5745 REQUEST SIGNAGE VARIANCE FOR THE SPRING MILL SHOPS PROJECT AT INAUDIBLE ] STREETS. IT IS A THREE BUILDING RETAIL CENTER , AS YOU CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN. WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS VARIANCE TO ALLOW TWO SIGNS PER TENANTS BECAUSE OF THE UTILITIES ALONG THE EAST PROPERTY LINE, BUT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO PUSH THE BUILDINGS WITHIN 15 FEET OF THE PROPERTY LINE, AND BECAUSE OF THAT WE HAVE TO REQUEST A VARIANCE TO PUT SIGNAGE ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING WHICH IS WHERE ALL THE PARKING IS. WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH ALL THE OTHER SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS. IF WE HAVE EVERYTHING ELSE ADDRESSED, THAT IS CURRENTLY LISTED.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PETITION? ALL RIGHT, THE DEPARTMENT REPORT,
PLEASE. THANK YOU. >> PLANNING STAFF IS GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST. WE HAD A FEW REMAINING COMMENTS THE PETITIONER STATED THEY WOULD ADDRESS BEFORE THE MEETING. WE JUST ASKED FOR A COPPER -- COPY OF THE OWNER ASSOCIATION APPROVAL ASKING WHAT THE POTENTIAL COLORS WOULD BE OF THE SIGNS FACING WEST. BUT OTHER THAN THAT WE RECOMMEND POSITIVE CONSIDERATION OF THE REQUEST. THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
OKAY. SO, IF I AM ON 1/16 STREET, THIS IS, THESE SHOPS ARE GOING NORTH AND SOUTH, SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SIGNAGE ALONG SPRING MILL AND SIGNAGE HERE ARE THE DRIVE IS TO GO INTO THOSE SHOPS, THE SHOP AREA, RIGHT? I DROVE OVER THERE. I DO BETTER WHEN I SEE THE ACTUAL LAND. I APPRECIATE IT.
>> THIS IS BRING MILL, 116TH STREET. SO, THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS FOR SIGNAGE ON THE SIDE OF THESE TWO BUILDINGS WHERE THE PARKING IS. THERE IS NO WAY THE SIGNAGE IS ON THE NORH SIDE WHICH IS WHERE THE PARKING IS. IT'S IN FRONT OF
THOSE. >> IT'S ONLY FOR THE TWO, CORRECT? BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE IT ON THE RIGHT SIDE OR THE EAST SIDE. OKAY. AND THAT IS A LOT OF SIGNS. SO, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU NEED THEM ON BOTH SIDES. BUT MY QUESTION IS, SO, DO WE HAVE -- SO, IT SAYS YOU WILL ADDRESS THESE TWO ITEMS BY MARCH 27TH, RIGHT? SO, THURSDAY TO GET THESE TWO ITEMS. THE OWNERS ASSOCIATION APPROVAL AND ALSO THE POTENTIAL COLORS AS
WELL? >> THERE IS NO OWNERS ASSOCIATION. SO, I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU WOULD LIKE US TO ADDRESS
THAT. >> WELL I GUESS THAT ANSWERS THE
QUESTION. >> AND I HAVE A COUPLE PHOTOS, THESE OBVIOUSLY AREN'T OF THE BUILDING, BUT THE INTENT IS THE SIGNAGE WOULD BE UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL ATTENDANCE BRANDING, AND IF THEY HAVE COLOR IN THEIR SIGN, THE COLOR WOULD BE PERMITTED. WE WOULD NOT BE REQUIRING SIGNAGE TO ALL BE ONE COLOR, ONE FONT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
>> OKAY. AND THE SIZE OF THE SIGNS THEY ARE REQUESTING IS NOT OUTSIDE WHAT WOULD BE APPROVED, IT'S JUST THE NUMBER OF SIGNS, CORRECT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THAT. AND THEN WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT CONSISTENCY OF COLORS AND --
>> IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING. IF THE OWNER WANTED TO HAVE A SIGNED PACKAGE THEY COULD. BUT IN THIS CASE, IT'S WHATEVER THE
TENANT WANTS. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH, I WILL APPROVE THIS AS LONG AS YOU ADDRESS THE REMAINING REVIEW COMMENTS OR THE LAST ONE WITH THE SATISFACTION OF THE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY, AND SO, IT IS APPROVED WITH THE ADOPTION OF
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THE FINDINGS OF FACT SUBMITTED BY THE PETITIONER. THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU. >> AND, ANY OLD BUSINESS? ANY NEW BUSINESS? WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.
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