[1. Docket No. PZ-2025-00101 OA: Group Home UDO Amendment The applicant seeks to amend the UDO pursuant to City Council Resolution 02-03-25-07, which directs the Plan Commission to consider amendments to UDO Sections 5.72, 9.08, and 11.02 in order to revise the standards, approval process, and definitions related to Group Homes. Filed by the Department of Community Services on behalf of the Carmel City Council.] [00:00:09] >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION COMMITTEE MEETING ON JULY 1ST, 2025. THE FIRST ITEM IS PEASY-2025 -0010 -A. THE UN- APPLICANT SEEKS TO AMEND 0203 2507 WHICH DIRECTS THE PLAN COMMISSION TO UDF SECTIONS . TO AUTHORIZE THE STANDARDS RELATED TO GROUP HOMES FILED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNTY COUNCIL. THE DEPARTMENT . >> IF IT IS OKAY WITH THE COMMITTEE , I WILL SPEAK FROM THIS TABLE INSTEAD OF GOING UP TO THE PODIUM. WE , AT THE FULL PLAN COMMISSION TALKED ABOUT A FEW REVISIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE, MINOR REVISIONS. AND , I WILL SEE IF I CAN GET THIS SCREEN TO SHARE . PRIMARILY , IT IS REMOVING REFERENCES TO -- REFERENCES TO WRITTEN APPLICATION S AND NUMBERS OF COPIES FOR SUBMITTALS AS WELL AS QUALIFIERS THAT I WILL GET TO ON ANOTHER PAGE . I WILL SHOW YOU THE REVISIONS. I APOLOGIZE . I REALIZE YOUR PDFS DO NOT SHOW ALL OF THE REDLINES. I REALIZED THAT TODAY AS I WAS PULLING IT UP. STARTING ON PAGE 4, LINE 157 , WE ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE COPIES OF REGULATORY ORDINANCES. COPIES OF THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN DELETED ONLINE 163 . THE APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT TWO COPIES. WE ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THE PHRASE TWO COPIES. I WILL MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIGGER . THE LAST PAGE ON PAGE FOUR . OR THE LAST LINE ON PAGE 4 AND THEN GOING TO PAGE 5 . OF THE WRITTEN APPLICATION, WE ARE DELETING THE WORD OF AND WRITTEN. IN THE NEXT PARAGRAPH ONLINE 167 , AGAIN, WE ARE REMOVING THE WORD , WRITTEN FOR APPLICATIONS. EVERYTHING -- ALL OF THOSE SUBMITTALS ARE DONE ONLINE THROUGH A PORTAL NOW AND SO THERE IS NO REASON TO HAVE WRITTEN AND HARD COPIES HERE IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. THERE WAS ONE OTHER MINOR REVISION . I WILL SCROLL SLOWLY SO AS NOT TO MAKE ANYONE MOTION SICK THIS WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING THAT MIGHT GET MOTION SICKNESS. ONLINE 200 38 , THIS IS ADDING A QUALIFIER . WE TALKED ABOUT THE ADDITION OF UNDER THE BASIS OF REVIEW AND THE NUMBER OF GROUP HOMES TO THE PROPOSED SITE. WE ADD A QUALIFIER THAT THIS ONLY APPLIES WHEN THE BZA IS ADDING GROUP HOMES. IN SUBSECTION C , IT ALSO APPLIES TO OTHER TYPES OF SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS. THIS INCLUDES SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND NON-DWELLING SHORT-TERM RENTALS . SO, WE FELT IT WAS WORTH SPECIFYING THE PROXIMITY IN THE NUMBER OF GROUP HOMES ONLY APPLIES WHEN THE BZA IS CONSIDERING GROUP HOMES. THOSE ARE THE ONLY REVISIONS THAT WE HAVE ADDED SINCE YOU SAW THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO FOR THE ORDINANCE. WE ARE RECOMMENDING , AFTER ANSWERING QUESTIONS, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS THIS BE SENT TO THE CARMEL CITY COUNCIL IF THERE ARE NO OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS . >> THANK YOU. COMMITTEE ? >> I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT CATCHES. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THOSE AND ALL OF THE REVISIONS MAKE PERFECT SENSE TO ME . >> ANYTHING ELSE? DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> I MOVED TO APPROVE THE AMENDED ORDINANCE WITH THE MINOR REVISIONS THAT WERE SHOWN THIS [00:05:03] EVENING THE -- OR I MOVE TO EXTEND WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. >> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR, SAY "YEA" AYE . >> AYE. MOVED AND APPROVED THAT THE AMENDMENT MOVE FORWARD TO THE CARMEL CITY COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION . >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR DOING THIS. IT WAS A LONG, CONCERTED EFFORT AND SO MY [2. Docket No. PZ-2025-00104 OA: Certificate of Occupancy UDO Amendment The applicant seeks to amend Unified Development Ordinance Sections 9.02 and 11.02 to revise Certificate of Occupancy standards and associated definitions related to changes in occupancy. Filed by the Department of Community Services on behalf of the Carmel Plan Commission.] APPRECIATION TO ALL OF YOU. THANKS. >> OKAY, NEXT ITEM IS DOCKET NUMBER PZ-2025-100 4 . THE OCCUPANT TO ORDINANCE 9.02 AND THE REVISION OF OCCUPANCY STANDARDS AND CHANGES IN OCCUPANT SINCE -- OCCUPANCY. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A MICROPHONE UP HERE TO TALK TO US. >> THANK YOU . GOOD EVENING COMMISSION MEMBERS, MIKE CALDWELL , DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES . WE HAD THE HEARING ON THIS AT THE REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING AND WE HELD IT OVER IN PART TO GIVE MEMBERS A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, IN PART , TO DIGEST AND TO SEE IF THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS. ALSO , WE WANTED TO AMEND SOME NEW LANGUAGE IN THAT REFLECTS WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS KINDLY ASKED US TO DO . WHICH IS TO ALLOW FOR PRIVATE INSPECTIONS AND PRIVATE PLAN REVIEW . SO, THERE IS A NEW SECTION WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CARE TO GO THROUGH IT, BUT WE AMENDED IT SO COME JANUARY 1ST , WHEN THE LAW TAKES EFFECT , WE WILL BE READY TO ALLOW THOSE PRIVATE ACTIONS TO OCCUR. >> AND, AS A BRIEF SUMMARY, SECTIONS C-1, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED , JUST STATES WHEN WE HAVE CLASS 2 STRUCTURES, THE APPLICANT HAS THE OPTION OF HIRING AND PAYING FOR PRIVATE PROVIDER. THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS AND WE STATE IN THE INDIANA CODE THAT STATES THOSE EXCEPTIONS . SO, THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A NEW CHANGE . >> OKAY, THANK YOU STAFF, COMMITTEE . >> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THE ADDED NEW SECTION HIGHLIGHTED ABOUT THE CLASS TWO STRUCTURES. IF SOMEONE IS PICKING UP THIS ORDINANCE WHO EITHER IS NOT FAMILIAR WITH PULLING UP THE INDIANA CODE AND KNOWS HOW TO FIND A CURRENT VERSION , SHOULD WE SPELL OUT A LITTLE FURTHER WHAT CLASS TWO STRUCTURES -- EVEN IF IT'S A FOOTNOTE. I PULLED IT UP AND LOOKED AT IT , AND YOU KNOW, THERE IS A BIT OF A LIST. THERE IS TOWNHOMES WHICH SURPRISED ME. I DON'T THINK IT WAS RECENT, BUT THERE IS GARAGES AND THINGS. COULD WE DEFINE THAT AS THEY PULL UP THE INDIANA CODE SO THEY KNOW WHAT A CLASS TWO STRUCTURE IS. THE SAME THING WITH EXCEPTIONS . HE GETS A LITTLE CLUNKY WITH THE WORDING . COULD YOU DROP IT INTO A FOOTNOTE SO IF SOMEBODY IS LOOKING THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT? >> I THINK, HONESTLY , A FOOTNOTE MIGHT BE THE CLEANEST WAY TO DO IT. TO DO EVERYTHING THAT INCLUDES. YES, WE CAN ADD THAT . >> THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT IS A CLASS TWO STRUCTURE AND WHAT THIS APPLIES TO. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. >> SURE . >> AND MAYBE ADD SOMETHING IN THERE THAT THIS IS HOW IT IS DEFINED TODAY. OBVIOUSLY, THEY HAVE CHANGED THE REST OF THE INDIANA CODE. THIS DOES NOT GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL JANUARY FIRST, DO WE NEED TO ADD A QUALIFYING STATEMENT OR DO WE DECIDE THIS WHOLE THING WILL NOT GO UNTIL JANUARY 1ST? >> WE HAVE THE OPTION TO DO WHATEVER. IT IS WHATEVER THE DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE. >> WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ADJUSTMENT TO DO , JUST TO THE FORMATTING OF ALL OF OUR PAPERWORK AND THE PROCESSES OF UPDATING THE SOFTWARE AND ALL OF THAT . SO, WE MAY NOT BE READY UNTIL AT LEAST Q4 OF THIS YEAR. [00:10:02] I DON'T THINK WE WILL BE IN A HURRY TO ALLOW WE ARE NOT SURE HOW WELL IT IS GOING TO BE RECEIVED JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T OPERATE ON THE SCALE THAT A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES DO THAT WILL BENEFIT . THIS IS AN EXPENSIVE OPTION FOR THEM BECAUSE OF THE EXPECT HER'S AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS . WE ARE GOING TO OPERATE IN GOOD FAITH AND ACCORDING TO THE LAW, BUT WE ARE JUST NOT REALLY SURE IT WILL BE USED HERE A LOT . >> THAT'S GREAT . IF THIS IS NOT GOING INTO EFFECT UNTIL JANUARY 1ST, IT IS FINE . I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT WAS GOING TO WORK . IF IT GOES INTO EFFECT SAY SEPTEMBER 1ST AND THEN THE PROVISION DOESN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL JANUARY 1ST, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. OKAY, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NEW ADDITION , THANK YOU . >> THANK YOU . >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER RUSSIANS? >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> I MOVED TO ADOPT WITH THE ADDED FOOTNOTE AS DISCUSSED . I ALSO THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND . ALL IN FAVOR, SAY "YEA" AYE . >> AYE. A POST? >> THE MOTION CARRIES . I THINK THAT IS ALL WE HAVE ON THE DOCKET TODAY FOR BUSINESS. SO, I'M GOING TO LET YOU HANDLE IT. THAT'S RIGHT, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ANYMORE . THAT IS ALL WE HAVE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS EVENING. 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