Aug 04, 2025 City Council Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[2. AGENDA APPROVAL]

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THE AGENDA IS AGENDA APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. GET THAT SET UP, ALL RIGHT THAT PASSES, NEXT IS INVOCATION LED BY CHAPMAN GEORGE DAVIS OF THE CARMEL POLICE DEPARTMENT.

>> WOULD YOU JOIN ME PLEASE? GRACIOUS GOD YOU HAVE BEEN DETERMINED TO CARE FOR US AND YOU CALL EACH OF US TO BE DETERMINED TO CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER. FOR THAT MAY WE REMAIN THANKFUL, IT IS IN THAT SPIRIT OF GRATITUDE THAT WE LOOK TO YOU THE MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL AND THEIR WORK ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY. TO STRENGTHEN AND ENCOURAGE EACH OF THEM. WE CALL YOUR BLESSING ON OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ALL WHO SERVE THE PUBLIC GOOD. BE WITH ALL WHO BRING BUSINESS TONIGHT , THANK YOU FOR ALL WHO WOULD KEEP US SAFE, BOTH AT HOME AND ABROAD.

AMEN. >> THANK YOU CHAPLAIN DAVIS AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, NEXT IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY FINLEY OUR DEPUTY MAYOR TONIGHT.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU, NEXT IS RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES

[6. RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL]

>> MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR AND DEPUTY MAYOR MY NAME IS MARK ADJACENT TO THE MERIDIAN CORRIDOR. I AM HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE U.S. 31 CORRIDOR SUBAREA PLAN MAKING ITS WAY TO THE PLAN COMMISSION REVIEW ON ITS WAY TO YOU FOR FURTHER REVIEW AND FINAL APPROVAL. AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE PLAN SEEKS TO REDEVELOP THE EXPANSIVE PARKING LOTS AND UNDERUTILIZED OPEN SPACES AT THE MARINE CORRIDOR, IN MOST PARTS OF THE CORRIDOR THIS SEEMS LIKE IT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA, THE PLAN TELLS US TO ADD AMENITIES AND ACTIVITIES TO EXISTING PARKING LOTS UNDER UTILIZED OPEN SPACES THE MERIDIAN CORRIDOR ZONING REGULATIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE CHANGED. MY NEIGHBORS AND I ARE WORRIED THAT THE ZONING REGULATIONS THAT ARE GETTING IN THE WAY OF ADDING ACTIVITIES AND AMENITIES TO THE PARKING LOTS AND OPEN SPACE IS LOCATED ON THE EDGES OF THE MERIDIAN CORRIDOR MAY BE THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE PROTECTING THE LIVABILITY AND CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOODS JUST OUTSIDE THE CORRIDOR. THE DECEMBER 15, 2024 CARMEL CURRENT HAD AN ARTICLE ON THE U.S. 31 SUBAREA PLANNING PROCESS AND AFTER DESCRIBING THE EFFORT DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES WOULD MAKE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH LANDOWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS AND EMPLOYERS INSIDE OF THE MERIDIAN CORRIDOR THE ARTICLE WENT ON TO SAY THAT THE CITY ALSO EXPECTS TO HOLD DISCUSSIONS WITH NEARBY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS. AS FAR AS I KNOW AND I HAVE LIVED, THE MEETINGS WITH NEARBY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS NEVER TOOK PLACE.

SO I AM ASKING IF CITY COUNCILMEMBERS THAT HAVE CONSTITUENTS LIVING IN AN ADJACENT CORRIDOR , WOULD YOU PLEASE HOLD TOWN HALL MEETINGS TO EXPLAIN THIS PROCESS AND THE IMPLICATIONS OF CHANGING THE MERIDIAN CORRIDOR ZONING REGULATIONS FOR NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS. AND TO HELP THE PUBLIC BECOME MORE INFORMED WOULD YOU ALSO ASKED THE PLAN COMMISSION TWO AUDIO RECORDINGS ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC OF THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, THOSE MEETINGS ARE NOT VIDEOTAPED.

MAKE AUDIO RECORDINGS ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC OF COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT WILL GO OVER THE PLAN DRAFT LINE BY LINE STARTING

TOMORROW NIGHT, THANK YOU. >> PLANNING COMMISSION TOMORROW

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>> THANK YOU, ONE THING I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW IS WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BRINGING IN A LOT OF PEOPLE INTO THIS AREA THAT ARE WHITE-COLLAR , SIZABLE SALARIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO THE COST OF SOMETHING FOR A CONDO MAY BE 3.5, UP TO FIVE OR FIVE AT HALF A HOUSE, 500 TO 700,000, WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE ELSE IN THE AREA THAT MAY ONE PERSON IS A LOW-LEVEL PROFESSIONAL AND THE OTHER IS BLUE-COLLAR YOU CANNOT AFFORD ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN MY MIND IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 150 AND $200,000. YOUNGER PEOPLE CAN GET INTO IT, STAY FOR FIVE YEARS, ACCUMULATE A LITTLE BIT, MOVE UP THE LADDER AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THAT'S THE WAY THE UNITED STATES USED TO DO IT WORKING YOUR WAY UP THE LADDER. YOU DID NOT START HERE BECAUSE YOU WILL FAIL AT SOME POINT AND TIME, SO MUCH FOR THAT, EVERYTHING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS WE ARE HAVING AND EVERYTHING ELSE IT SEEMS IN MY MIND THERE ARE SEVEN OR EIGHT THAT ARE STILL GOING ON AND OTHER STUFF HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED. WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF STUFF IN THE FIRE, BUT LIKE IN YOUR HOUSE I'M GOING TO BUILD THE BEDROOM FIRST AND I'M GOING TO MOVE TO THE KITCHEN AND KEEP GOING. WE HAVE TO GET STUFF DONE BEFORE WE CONTINUE TO OTHER THINGS. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF MONEY SPREAD OUT AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS GOING. WITH THAT YOU TRY TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THIS IS PROCESSED AND EVERYTHING, TALK ABOUT THIS STATEMENT THE TAXING UNITS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BUT, FOR TEST.

ONE THING BROUGHT OUT, NOT ONLY IS THERE NO OVERSIGHT ON IT, REALLY THERE'S NO WAY TO KNOW IF THE BUT, FOR TEST WAS MET, ACCORDING TO ECONOMISTS, IT REALLY CANNOT BE MET IN THIS YOU DO THE FULL DUE DILIGENCE. LASTING UP TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE THING IN THERE ABOUT C ZONING, MOST IS C THREE MIXED-USE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WE GO TO THE C WITH MIXED-USE THAT MEANS WE PICK UP SOME AREA GO IN, DROP IN WHATEVER WE WANTED. YOU COULD HAVE HOUSES, CONDOS, APARTMENTS, SMALL SHOPS, THROW IN A GAS STATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WANT. THESE NEED TO BE SCREENED AND IT SAYS IN HERE BASICALLY, DECIDED BY SINGLE HEARING OFFICER RATHER THAN FIVE MEMBER CARMEL BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS AND CARMEL PLANNING COMMISSION. ONE PERSON HAVE THAT KIND OF AUTHORITY TO DO THINGS IS ASKING FOR TROUBLE. IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH OTHER GROUPS LIKE MENTIONED, ALSO CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU.

[7. COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS]

>> THANK YOU. MOVING ON COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMMENTS AND CONSERVATIONS.

>> HELLO CITY COUNSELORS MY NAME IS FINLEY URBACH AND I WILL BE SIX GREATER NORTHPOINTE CHRISTIAN ACADEMY I AM EXCITED TO SHARE THIS WEEK'S MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL REPORT, ON TUESDAY, JULY 22 MAYOR FINKAM WENT TO FORT WORTH, TEXAS TO ACCEPT A BIG REWARD FOR THE CITY CARMEL WON 2025 SISTER CITY INTERNATIONAL AWARD FOR BEST OVERALL PROGRAM FOR CITIES OUR SIZE. OVER HOW CARMEL HAS BUILT STRONG FRIENDSHIPS WITH CITIES IN OTHER COUNTRIES AND CREATED WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO CONNECT AND LEARN FROM EACH OTHER, THE NEXT DAY MAYOR FINKAM VISITED THE STRATFORD NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OLDER ADULTS, SHE COMMUNICATED WITH THE RESIDENTS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY AND LISTENED TO WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM, THE MAYOR WANTS TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE, NO MATTER THEIR AGE HAS A CHANCE TO SHARE THEIR IDEAS AND BE HEARD. LAST MONDAY, THE CITY ALSO HELD A FUN NEIGHBORHOOD POP-UP EVENT IN WOODLAND SPRINGS, PEOPLE GOT TO COMMUNICATE WITH CITY LEADERS, ASK QUESTIONS AND SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS. MAYOR FINKAM THINGS CITY COUNSELORS FOR COMING AND SUPPORTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE NEXT POP-UP WILL BE AUGUST 20 IN LEXINGTON FARMS FROM 4:30 UNTIL 6:30 P.M. AND THERE WILL BE MORE

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STAY TUNED, TAKE IT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOU DID A GREAT JOB. SERIOUSLY IF YOU CONSIDER THE SPEECH TEAM IN HIGH SCHOOL, I DID IT IN HIGH SCHOOL AND IT'S FUN. YOU WOULD BE GREAT. THAT'S WHY HE SHOULD DO IT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ? OKAY, COUNCIL ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COUNSELOR.

>> SHORT MEETING TONIGHT SO AUGUST SO AUGUST 28, SO AUGUST 28, 2025 AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER 7:00 WE WILL HAVE A COMMUNITY GATHERING FOR THE PROJECT'S ABILITY ORGANIZATION WHERE WE ARE CONNECTING OUR RESIDENTS WITH HOW THEY CAN GET INVOLVED, WE WILL HAVE SPECIAL GUESTS AND A LOT GOING ON, THOSE FOLLOWING

ALONG WITH THE PROJECT ABILITY. >> THANK YOU TO THANK EVERYONE WHO SHOWED UP TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD POP-UP LAST WEEK ALONG WITH THE TOWNHALL WE HAD SOUTHEAST DISTRICT. BOTH EVENTS WE HEARD GREAT FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK THERE IS ALREADY SOME COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS THAT WERE TRYING TO TURN INTO IDEAS TO HELP IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY JUST LIKE WE GOT IDEAS FROM THE FIRST TOWNHALL. I DID WANT TO FOLLOW UP TO ONE OF THE BLUE CARDS TONIGHT ABOUT THE U.S. 31 PLAN. THAT IS GOING TO THE PLAN COMMISSION RIGHT NOW AND THAT WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL AFTERWARDS SO CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE CHANGES YET BUT, WHEN IT GETS OUT A PLAN COMMISSION TO COUNCIL THEN WE WILL WEIGH IN AND BE HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MINNAAR.

>> I WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE THING. YOU MENTIONED AND THIS IS NOT MEANT FOR BACK AND FORTH BUT THE COMMITTEE MEETING YOU MEANT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT THAT IS LIVE STREAMED AND RECORDED SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO WATCH LIVE IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND OR YOU CAN PLAY IT BACK AT YOUR CONVENIENCE. JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT.

[8. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYONE CITY COUNCIL?WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM JULY 21, 2025 REGULAR MEETING AND CLAIMS PAYROLL THE AMOUNT OF $4,185,802.50 AND GENERAL CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF 6 MILLION AND GENERAL CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $6,570,287.34. DO I HAVE A MOTION? ALL RIGHT PLEASE VOTE.

.PASSES 7-4-1 ABSTAINED. ACTION ON MAYORAL BEETLES WE HAVE KNOWN

[10.a. Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee]

COUNSELOR WORRELL HAVE YOU MET SINCE THE LAST MEETING?

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>> I DON'T THINK WE MET, WE MET RIGHT BEFORE COUNCIL LAST TIME.

[10.b. Land Use and Special Studies Committee]

>> NO MEETING SINCE THE LAST MEETING. COUNSELOR SNYDER, LAND-USE AND SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE.

>> NEXT MEETING WILL BE WEDNESDAY AT 5:30 AT THE LIBRARY. WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME SPEAK THEIR MIND. ON THAT AGENDA AGENDA ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS , WE KNOW WE WILL FOCUS ON RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE NEW RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMIT ORDINANCE AND FINES FOR WORK IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. GENERALLY TRYING TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR THE WALKING COMMUTING PUBLIC. AND AMONGST OTHER THINGS I'M NOT SURE WHICH OTHER ITEM WE WILL FOCUS ON. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AND TALK THROUGH IT, BUT THAT WILL BE WEDNESDAY 5:30 AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME SUGGEST DIRECTION OTHER THAN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WE WOULD PROBABLY

ENTERTAIN A THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ONE THING I WANT TO NOTE OTHER NEIGHBORING CITIES TACKLING EBIKE'S , THAT SOME YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DEFINITELY HAVING THE SAME ISSUES AS WELL.

>> YES AND WE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK AT THE TOWNHALL'S LAST WEEK ABOUT THAT. WE CERTAINLY CAN DISCUSS THAT. I THINK

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[11.a. Carmel Redevelopment Commission (Monthly)]

>> THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT. OTHER REPORTS, TONIGHT WE HAVE ONE THE CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

>> GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL. CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, I WILL BRIEFLY GO THROUGH LAST MONTH'S ACTIVITIES.

CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES THROUGHOUT THE CENTRAL CORE.

THIS IS A FAIRLY RECENT PICTURE OF SQUARE NORTH, YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE FULLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, NORTHWEST AND NORTHEAST QUADRANTS WITH THE WONDERFUL ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TAKING THE LEAD ON THE EXPANSION SO THIS IS AN EXCITING AREA WE WILL WATCH. GO UP AND UP AND UP OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF.

CONTINUING TO BUILD OUT STACK FLATS . CIVIC SQUARE CONDOS CONTINUES ITS CONSTRUCTION. SEVEN UNITS HAVE BEEN SOLD OUT OF 25, REPUBLIC CONTINUES HEADQUARTER CONSTRUCTION WE DISCUSSED THAT LAST TIME AS WELL AND WORKING ON FIRST FLOOR RETAIL , I MENTIONED LAST TIME BUT WE HAVE CLEANUP SOME HOUSES ALONG RANGELINE CLOSER TO CITY HALL AND WORKING TO THE PROJECT NOW WHICH WILL BE A THING WOULD TAKE BACK TO CITY COUNCIL LATER THIS YEAR ON THIS PROJECT. SOUTH RANGELINE FINISHING UP HIS TOWNHOMES AND LOTS OF PROGRESS BEING MADE ON ICON. WE ARE EXPECTING THE PUBLIC PLAZA TO COME UP MID NEXT YEAR. LOTS OF WORK BEING DONE ON AT&T SITE. IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL AND LOTS OF WORK BEING DONE ON THE PLAZA AND THAT BUILDING IS GOING UP REAL FAST AND AS WE DISCUSSED HERE LAST MONTH, I HOPE EVERYONE GETS A CHANCE TO CHECK OUT TAKING FLIGHT, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION PUT UP A NICE SIDEWALL AROUND THE BASE AND BY THAT ROUNDABOUT. IN A FEW MONTHS STREETS WILL TAKE THE LEAD ON SOME LANDSCAPING TO FINISH OUT THE ROUNDABOUT. WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE. >> QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? I HAVE ONE QUESTION DIRECTOR. HOW IS THE PARKING SITUATION GOING WITH A 1933 SINCE IT HAS BEEN OPENED? I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT THE DESIGN CENTER CHANGING HOURS, THE PARKING LOT AS A RESULT, ANY OTHER THINGS YOU ARE HEARING ABOUT, IT DOES SEEM QUITE POPULAR BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS OR

ISSUES WITH PARKING. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

I HAVE NOT HEARD ISSUES SO FAR WITH 1933 PARKING. ANYONE WATCHING MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE , SECURITY GUARDS SITTING AROUND OUR INDIANA DESIGN CENTER SO FOR ANYONE LISTENING THE DESIGN CENTER, THERE'S A PARKING LOT TO THE SOUTH OF IT AND A UNDERGROUND GARAGE, THE PARKING LOT TO THE SOUTH OF IT IS ENTIRELY THE DEVELOPER DESIGN CENTER PARKING LOT SO THEY DO MONITOR THAT PARKING LOT. IN THE GARAGE HALF THE SPACES ARE FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO PARK THREE HOURS AT A TIME SO IF YOU'RE COMING UP TO THE PUBLIC GARAGE AND THERE HAPPENS TO BE SECURITY GUARD THERE, THEY ARE CHECKING TO MAKE SURE THEY LET PEOPLE KNOW SPACES FOR THE PUBLIC ARE THREE HOURS AT A TIME SPACES, OTHERWISE EVERYONE IS FREE TO COME PART THERE AS THAT DICTATES 12 TACKLERS OF

CONFUSION. >> SO I KNOW I DON'T PARK IN THE WRONG SPOT BUT THE PARKING LOT TO THE SOUTH IS THE DESIGN CENTER SO WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK THERE UNLESS WE USE THE

DESIGN CENTER? >> THAT IS ACCURATE.

[12.a. Twelfth Reading of Ordinance D-2762-25; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending Chapter 8, Article 5, Sections 8-37, 8-47, and 8-48 of the Carmel City Code; Sponsor: Councilor Aasen. Remains in the Land Use and Special Studies Committee.]

>> OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU DIRECTOR.

MOVING ON TO OLD BUSINESS 12TH READING ORDINANCE D 2762-25 ORDINANCE OF COMMON COUNCIL CITY OF CARMEL AMENDING CHAPTER 8 ARTICLE 5 SECTIONS 8 HAVING 37, 8-47 AND 8-48 OF THE CARMEL CITY

CODE SPONSOR COUNSELOR . >> DO YOU MIND IF I ASK A COUPLE

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>> COUNCILOR SNYDER? >> ABSOLUTELY 100% INCLUDED, NEED AN UPDATE ON THE ACTUAL STUDY SO I WILL MAKE A NOTE TO ASK HIM TO GIVE A FULL UPDATE ON THAT. BECAUSE I THOUGHT ORIGINALLY WE TALKED ABOUT JUNE , SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE TRYING TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION, BUT I KNOW TO 1933 ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT POSSIBLY BRINGING BACK THE RESIDENTIAL STICKER REQUIREMENT FOR PEOPLE NEAR THERE BEING INUNDATED WITH CARS . THE , THE MERITS OF 15 MINUTES VERSUS NO PARKING VERSUS UNLOADING ZONE , ALL DATA POINTS WE ARE WAITING ON YES WOULD YOU INCLUDE IN THE EMAIL ABSOLUTELY WE CAN TAKE IT UNDER AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT BACK SOONER THAN LATER SO WE CAN DECIPHER IT AND START DISCUSSING IT, ADVISING WHAT WE THINK IS THE BEST PLAN

FOR RESIDENTS. >> YEAH, WHAT I WOULD ADD IS THE OTHER 15 MINUTES, WHERE TODAY SHOULD BE ALONG MAIN STREET, THAT KIND OF THING. IN THIS CASE WE HAVE A RESIDENT WHOSE DRIVEWAY IS BEING BLOCKED BECAUSE THE TRUCKS PULLED UP IN

THERE TOO LONG. >> I TOOK THREE PICTURES OF THAT SCENARIO . I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S NO EASY SOLUTION UNLESS WE START HAVING LONGER LOADING AND UNLOADING ZONES WHEN THE PARK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, I GOT STUCK BEHIND ONE DAY FOR SIX MINUTES BEFORE I COULD GET AROUND.

>> I THINK THE SOLUTION WE HAVE OFFERED IS TO MOVE THE TRACTOR-TRAILERS ONTO THE SPACE WHERE THEY COULD PULL UP AND NOT BLOCK ANYBODY AND IS NOT A PARKING ZONE SO GET THE TRACTOR-TRAILERS OVER THERE TO UNLOAD FOR THE RESTAURANTS BUT THEN THE LOADING OR DELIVERY FOR THE APARTMENTS WOULD BE TWO SPOTS CLEARED TO THE EAST ON THE RAILYARD SIDE OR SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET. I WOULD LIKE TO TRY THAT SOONER THAN LATER. AS FAR

AS A SOLUTON. >> IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE

WEDNESDAY CAN YOU BRING IT UP? >> SURE AND I DID SEND DETAILS, I TRY TO BE DETAILED EXCEPT I SAID WEST INSTEAD OF EACH EAST WOULD HAVE CORRECTED. I WILL, YES SIR.

>> THE OTHER THING TALKING ABOUT THINGS WE WERE NOT THINKING ABOUT WHEN WE ENGAGED IN THE STUDY, DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE BY ANY MEANS BUT UBER DROP-OFF AND PICKUP. IT BLOCKS ALL OF NAME ] AND I SAW FRIDAY NIGHT, I WAS HEADED EASTBOUND ON MAIN AND I WAS PROBABLY 40 FEET BEHIND A CAR AND I CANNOT FIGURE OUT WHY THEY SLAMMED ON THEIR BRAKES AND SWERVED AND WENT UP AND OVER THE ROUNDABOUT. BECAUSE THE UBER DRIVER STOPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROUNDABOUT. OBVIOUSLY WE WANT SAFE HABITS AND SAFE DRIVING BUT PROBABLY INCLUDING THOSE PUBLIC PICKUP POINTS IN SOME DEVELOPMENTS MOVING FORWARD.

>> YEAH, MR. PRESIDENT. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. WHEN WE WERE, PROBABLY MAYOR FINKAM REMEMBERS WHEN WE WERE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH ONE OF OUR ESTABLISHMENTS LATE AT NIGHT, WE HAVE VIDEOS OF DOZENS OF UBER'S AND WE WORKED WITH THE CITY. A MAY NOT GET IT EXACTLY RIGHT, BUT WORKED WITH GOOGLE MAPS MAY BE ON CREATING LOCATION IN FRONT OF THE RESTROOMS OF THE PARKING GARAGE AT MIDTOWN SO THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ON ELM , NOT ON MOAN ON BOULEVARD. MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE CAN DICTATE THAT AND IT COULD

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>> THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE MAY BE, MATT COULD PUT SOMETHING FOR RESTAURANTS TO SAY LISTEN CALLING FOR A RIDE WHICH WE ENCOURAGE THE PICKUP IS THESE POINTS.

>> WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AND IT SHOULD COME UP IN THE APPS BUT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT'S HAPPENING. 15 MINUTE PARKING SPOTS IN FRONT OF HAPPY DOG THOSE ARE GREAT PICKUP AND DROP-OFF POSITIONS, 15 MINUTES AND YOU ARE OUT OF THEIR. BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE PARK AND STAY ALL NIGHT SO IT'S ENFORCEMENT ISSUE TOO AND THEY HAVE BEEN ON A BUT WE DO HAVE A PARKING ATTENDANT 24/7 AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE HOW WE HANDLE THOSE.

>> I THINK COUNCILOR TAYLOR WAS LOOKING INTO SOME A.I. TYPE TECHNOLOGY STUFF THAT I MAY BE INCLUDED IN THE STUDY TO LOOK AT COST AND BENEFIT COMPARISONS. AT LEAST I'M HOPING. I HAVE NOT

HAD AN UPDATE IN A FEW MONTHS. >> COUNCILOR MINNAAR YOU WANTED

TO WEIGH IN. >> A QUICK QUESTION AND MAYBE REGIMEN CAN ENTER THIS. I NOTICED IN SOME PUBLIC STREETS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN RVS PARKED ON THE PUBLIC STREETS. MANY TIMES LIKE OVERNIGHT I COME BACK I WILL DRIVE OVER AND SEE THE SAME RV PARKED IN THE SAME SPOT AND ONE WEEK LATER MOVED TO A DIFFERENT SPOT. WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT DOES NOT ALLOW

THAT? >> DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON

THIS? >> ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO DOES NOT WANT TO PAY FOR LONG-TERM PARKING IN THE RULE IS 48 HOURS AND MOVE IT SO HE IS MOVING IT CREATIVELY ALL AROUND THE CITY.

OFTEN NEXT TO CITY HALL. YOU MIGHT WANT TO ENTERTAIN SOME KIND OF ORDINANCE CHANGE AND IT TAKES UP TWO SPOTS SO THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE. SIMILAR TO KEEP CHANGING THE RULES TO DISCOURAGE THE SEMI TRUCKS FROM PARKING THERE. MR. LIGGETT IS VERY AWARE

AS IS CPD. >> MAYOR I WAS THINKING THERE WAS SOMETHING ILLEGAL ABOUT TAKING UP TWO SPOTS?

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT MIGHT BE CORRECT. I KNOW BRENT HAD JUST SAID WAS 48 HOURS ACCEPTABLE THAT WAS MY CONCERN

TAKING OUT TWO SPOTS. >> YEAH, I WILL REACH OUT.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO I CAN HAVE A FOLLOW UP AND GET BACK TO YOU.

YES IT HAS BEEN NOTICED. >> NOT THAT I'M COMPLAINING, BUT DAVE AND I WENT TO EAT DINNER DOWN AND THERE WAS A BIG RV PARKED IN TWO PARKING SPACES WITHOUT THAT'S INTERESTING SOMEBODY DROVE ALL THE WAY IN WITH THEIR RV TO HAVE DINNER AND CARMEL AND WE SAW THE SAME RV A COUPLE WEEKS LATER.

>> REALLY NOT RELATED, BUT MUCH APPRECIATION. TAKES A LOT, GETS A LOT FROM US AND WE REALLY WANT TO SEE THESE ORDINANCES ENFORCED AND I THINK IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A SHOCK FOR HIM SO WHEN THERE'S A COMPLAINT EVERYBODY UP HERE REALLY EXPECTS IT TO BE ENFORCED AND HE DOES A PHENOMENAL JOB. ONE THING AND I DON'T SEEM ANYBODY AT THE NEXT MEETING COULD WE GET AN UPDATE ON 116 GROUP HOME BECAUSE IT JUST LOOKS HORRIBLE. OVERGROWN.

THERE WERE KIDS THREE BICYCLES THERE A WEEK AGO AND I LET BRENT KNOW BECAUSE IT LOOKS ABANDON. NOT SAYING THERE WERE DOING

ANYTHING WRONG. >> I WANT TO SEND AN EMAIL UPDATE TO YOU ALL. I WILL TEXT RIGHT NOW.

>> ANYTHING ELSE ON THE ITEM? THANK YOU FOR PICKING THIS UP

[12.b. Seventh Reading of Ordinance D-2772-25; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Adopting a New Article 8 Under Chapter 2 of the Carmel City Code; Sponsor(s): Councilor(s) Aasen, Ayers, Minnaar, Snyder and Worrell. Remains in the Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee.]

[17. ANNOUNCEMENTS]

ANNOUNCEMENTS. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM ANYONE CITY COUNCIL?

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COUNSELOR SNYDER. >> ONE GENERAL PUBLIC AWARENESS, SCHOOL STARTING BACK UP. MORE CARS ON THE ROADS IN THE MORNINGS AND AFTERNOONS SO LET'S JUST BE CAREFUL FOR THE

FUTURE OF CARMEL PLEASE. >> COUNCILOR LOCKE.

>> ANNOUNCEMENT IN THE CITY OF CHAMPIONS HAVE A CHAMPION HERE IN THE ROOM TONIGHT, LACEY LOCKE MY SISTERS BACK FROM NAPERVILLE VISITING FAMILY. WHEN I THINK OF CARMEL I THINK OF NOBODY MORE THAN HER, SHE EMBODIES THE SPIRIT OF THIS PLACE, CHAMPION SWIMMER, A WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING AND I'M SO GRATEFUL SHE CAME TO WATCH A BIG BROTHER IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING EVEN THOUGH I

DID NOT SAY ANYTHING. LOVE YOU . >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> I WANT TO POINT OUT NOT ONLY IS YOUR CHAMPION WHEN IT COMES TO SWIMMING AND ATHLETICS BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY REALLY EXUDES THE SPIRIT OF THE CITY OF CHAMPIONS WINNING THE ATTITUDE TOWARD AT THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP , REALLY REPRESENT WHAT CARMEL

IS ABOUT SO CONGRATULATIONS. >> COUNCILOR?

>> MOVE BACK. >> ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COUNCIL?

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