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[Mayor’s Advisory Commission on Senior Living 9-24-25]

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HELLO. I WILL JUST CALL IT TO ORDER, OKAY? SEPTEMBER 24TH AT 5:30 P.M. TONIGHT WE ARE JUST IN A GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AND FIRST ON THE AGENDA IS MONICA OO WHO HAS BEEN WORKING ON OUR SURVEY. I WILL ASK HER TO GIVE US A SUMMARY SO FAR AND THEN WE PROBABLY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. MONICA?

>> YEAH. WELL, AS OF TODAY, FIVE MINUTES AGO, WE HAVE 496 COMPLETED SURVEYS, ALMOST AT 500. 30 OF THOSE CAME IN ON MONDAY. THE FIRST WEEK WE HAD ABOUT 240 THE FIRST WEEK, SO BASICALLY, WE GOT A BIG CHUNK AND IT IS JUST GETTING LESSER AND LESSER AS THE WEEKS GO ON. WE ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME EACH WEEK. SO ABOUT 500. WHAT WE DID, OUR ORIGINAL PLAN WAS, WE GOT ENOUGH NUMBERS , GOT ENOUGH ADDRESSES, THAT WE COULD SEND OUT 10,000 SURVEYS. BECAUSE OF THE WAY PRINTING WORKS FOR US, FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT WAS CHEAPER TO SEND OUT ALL 10,000, RATHER THAN 1000, 1000 AT A TIME SO WE SENT OUT 10,000. SO, IN THEORY, IF EVERYONE ANSWERED, WE WOULD HAVE 10,000. CLEARLY, WE HAVE 500, SO THAT IS NOT THE CASE. OUR RESPONSE RATE IS REALLY LOW RIGHT NOW. 500 IS STILL GOOD, IT IS GOOD TO HAVE THAT MUCH FEEDBACK, BUT PERCENTAGEWISE, WE ARE PRETTY LOW. SO WHAT OUR PLAN IS, IS TO WAIT UNTIL THE SURVEY HAS COMPLETELY PLATEAUED, YOU KNOW WHEN WE ARE GETTING ONE OR TWO BACK A WEEK AND THEN WE WILL REVISIT SENDING UP -- THE FOLLOW-UP SURVEY. WE WOULD SEND IT BACK OUT TO THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T SEND IT BACK TO US, NOT NEW PEOPLE, THE SAME ORIGINAL 10,000 TO TRY TO GET THEM TO RESPOND. THAT IS OUR PLAN. BASED ON THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, I WOULD SAY IN THE NEXT TO US, TWO TO THREE WEEKS WE WOULD HIT FULL PLATEAU WITH HOW THINGS ARE GOING. THAT IS TO SAY I KNOW A REPORTER WAS DOING A STORY ON IT, SO IF IT ENDS UP IN WHAT THE -- SO IT IS POSSIBLE WE WILL GET INCREASED RESPONSE RATES, THE PROBLEM IS, SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE MIGHT'VE ALREADY THROWN AWAY THE PAPER. SO THEN WE MIGHT NEED TO RESEND IT BACK OUT SO IT IS NOW ON THEIR MINDS. SO, THAT IS

WHERE WE ARE AT. IT IS GOING. >> HOW MANY DO YOU REALLY HOPE YOU CAN GET? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET?

>> ABOUT AS MANY AS WE CAN. SO, I WOULD SAY, I DON'T KNOW I WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I WANT AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS THAT WHAT WE CAN START DOING, ONCE WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE NUMBERS, WE CAN START TO LOOK AT KIND OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF CARMEL, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE ANSWERED AND THEN SEE IF THEY ARE MATCHING. IF NOT, THEN WE REALLY NEED TO TRY TO PUSH IT OUT TO GET THAT REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE THAT WE TALK ABOUT, RIGHT? SO THERE WILL BE PEOPLE MORE LIKELY TO RESPOND TO A SURVEY, JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE TIME OR MORE INTEREST. SO, THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE MORE LIKELY TO RESPOND. MAYBE IF WE NUDGE THE OTHERS, THEY WILL GET BACK

WITH US, SO -- >> AS A QUESTION, WHEN YOU SAID, LOOKING AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF CARMEL AND THEN OTHERS, I

THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST CARMEL? >> IF I SAID OTHERS, I DIDN'T

MEAN IT, THIS IS JUST CARMEL. >> MAYBE I MISHEARD YOU.

>> JUST CARMEL, JUST PEOPLE WITH CARMEL ZIP CODES. AND THEN, THERE IS A SMALL CAVEAT THAT SURVEYS HAVE BEEN SENT OUT TO PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW THE WORKINGS OF CARMEL, BUT THAT HAVE BEEN SLICED OFF FROM CARMEL AND ARE NOW IN FISHERS ARE ONE OF THE OTHER COUNTIES, WE STILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION, SO WE ARE STILL INCLUDING THEM IN THE SURVEY, BUT THERE HAS NOT BEEN MANY OF THEM. WE CAN ALWAYS CUT THEM OFF IF WE DON'T WANT THEIR ANSWERS. THEY ARE IN THE SURVEY NOW .

>> AND THEN FURTHER CLARIFICATION, WAS IT MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THAT YOU NEEDED 500 FOR IT TO BE SCIENTIFIC DATA?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE CASE BUT 500 IS, AGAIN, A GREAT START. WE ARE THREE AWAY FROM THAT, SO THAT IS AWESOME. I DO THINK THAT , I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY WHEN WE WERE THINKING

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ABOUT SENDING OUT 1000 AT A TIME AND BECAUSE WE SENT OUT 10,000 AT A TIME, IT IS A VERY LOW RESPONSE RATE. IF IT WAS 500 OUT OF 1000 THAT ANSWER, IT WOULD BE A 50% RESPONSE RIGHT. HONESTLY, FOR THE KIND OF WORK WE ARE DOING HERE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

BUT 500 OUT OF 10,000 IS NOT 50%.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YEAH .

>> IS IT POSSIBLE IN YOUR SECOND MAILING YOU COULD ADD SOME SORT OF AMMA I WANT TO PARTICIPATE BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, I CAN

CALL THIS NUMBER? >> THERE IS A NUMBER. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. THERE IS A NUMBER. IT GOES TO A RESEARCH ASSISTANT. HE DID RECEIVE QUITE A FEW CALLS OF PEOPLE UNSURE HOW QR CODES WORKED OR, UM, HOW TO TYPE IN THE URL. HE DID ASSIST THOSE INDIVIDUALS, SO THAT NUMBER IS STILL ON END. IT IS GOOD TO CALL. HE SAID THE FIRST PEOPLE WHO RECEIVED THEIRS, HE GOT UP FEW PHONE CALLS THAT FIRST DAY AND IT HAS TAPERED OFF

SINCE THAT. >> THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT

QUESTION. >> I ACTUALLY RECEIVED.

>> DID YOU? >> I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO RESPOND BECAUSE I AM PART OF THE COMMISSION. I THOUGHT I WOULD CHECK.

>> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T SEE WHY YOU CAN'T. YOU

ARE A CARMEL RESIDENT. >> YES, I AM. AS LONG AS THAT IS UPFRONT AND YOU HAVE THE CHANCE TO SAY IT IS NOT THE BEST

PRACTICE. >> IT'S FINE. ONE-PERSON.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WE'VE GOT THE CONFERENCE COMING UP. WE HAD TO REGISTER FOR THE CONFERENCE. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN SEE OR COMPARE WHO SIGNED UP TO GO TO THE CONFERENCE AND HAVE THEY RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY? AND, IF NOT, IS THERE SOME WAY WE CAN USE, CAN WE HAVE A TABLE AT THE CONFERENCE, WHERE THEY CAN FILL OUT A SURVEY AND LEAVE IT WITH US?

>> YEAH. THIS IS WHERE I WILL SAY, I DON'T THINK THERE IS A WAY TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T ASK FOR NAME. WE DON'T ASK IN THE SURVEY WHAT THEIR NAME IS. I DON'T THINK THERE IS A NAME TO CROSS REFERENCE THAT. WE HAVE, I THINK, BIRTHDAY, BUT IF TWO PEOPLE HAVE THE SAME BIRTHDAY, THERE IS NO WAY TO KNOW IF IT IS THE SAME PERSON. WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH SURVEYS THEY CAN FILL OUT. WHAT I WILL SAY, IT WOULDN'T BE THAT KIND OF RAMPED UP SAMPLE BUT CERTAINLY, WE CAN ADD THEM. AND THEN WE CAN PUT AN ASTERISK NEXT TO THOSE THAT IT MIGHT NOT BE A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE BUT IT MIGHT HELP GET MORE RESPONSES. I WOULD, THE OTHER CAVEAT TO THAT IS, THERE IS NO WAY TO DETERMINE IF SOMEONE DID GET ONE IN THE MAIL AND FILL IT OUT THAT THEY AREN'T ALSO FILLING ONE OUT IN PERSON AND DOUBLING UP.

>> THAT IS WHAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT.

>> YOU WOULD BE RELYING ON PEOPLE TO BE HONEST.

>> THEY SHOULD KNOW IF THEY FEEL THAT OUT.

>> SURE, SURE. YEAH. SURE. >> SO WE COULD GO AHEAD AND --

>> WE CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE YOU WITH SURVEYS. WE WILL KNOW THAT FROM HERE BECAUSE THERE WILL BE PAPER SURVEYS AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, ONLINE, BUT, YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW

MANY PEOPLE YOU ARE EXPECTING? >> WELL, AS OF TODAY, WE'VE GOT OVER 60. I WOULD SAY BY THIS TIME, BY THE TIME THE CONFERENCE IS ACTUALLY, THE 10TH OF OCTOBER, I WOULD GUESS WE WOULD GET 100, 150. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I ALSO WAS CAN HAVE A TABLE THERE, JUST FOR THE COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS TO OUR CITIZENS AS TO WHAT THE SURVEY IS GOING TO BE AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT MEANS AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO AS A COMMISSION. SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, AS WELL.

>> I CAN, I DON'T KNOW IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO PRESENT EARLY FINDINGS THERE BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T WANT, LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPL, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID SO FAR, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW I WOULD WANT TO PRESENT THAT TO EVERYONE YET BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THEM TO GIVE THE SAME ANSWERS.

>> THE THEME OF OUR CONFERENCE IS RESOURCES SO WE KNOW THE SENIORS HAVE SAID THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO THEM SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON. I AM NOT EXPECTING TO GIVE THEM ANY KIND OF RESULTS FROM THE SURVEY UNTIL WE ARE READY

BECAUSE THAT IS TOO MUCH. >> THAT IS GREAT. YOU KNOW, THE PRELIMINARY RESULTS FROM THE LAST CONFERENCE NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT DIDN'T KNOW CATEGORY FOR A LOT OF QUESTIONS WAS PREVALENT

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SO I THINK THAT IS GREAT, A GREAT THEME.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, RESULTS YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US THAT HAVE BEEN SURPRISING OR DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU

PRESENTED IN THE PAST? >> NOT YET. EVERYTHING IS LOOKING PRETTY SIMILAR. ALTHOUGH, LIKE I SAID, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO RESPOND ARE THE PEOPLE REALLY INTERESTED AND REALLY INVESTED. THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE SAME TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT CAME TO THE CONFERENCE. SO I AM NOT SURPRISED THAT THE FIRST WAVE LOOKS PRETTY SIMILAR.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL GET MORE RESPONSE. LIKE I SAID, ONCE WE HIT THAT PLATEAU, WE WILL DISCUSS SENDING OUT A SECOND WAVE AND I THINK THAT WILL ADD VARIABILITY. I COULD BE WRONG,

BUT THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS. >> AND I KNOW YOU NEVER LIKE THIS QUESTION, BUT HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE UNTIL WE CAN USE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION TO START FORMING GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND PROGRAM ISSUES?

>> LET'S SEE, UH, LET'S SEE HERE. UM, I WOULD SAY, I DON'T DO MENTAL MATH. I USE MY COMPUTER FOR THAT BECAUSE I AM A SILLY GIRL AND I DON'T KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS. LET'S SEE. IF WE DO -- OKAY. THIS IS WHAT I WILL SAY. FOR THIS TYPE OF A SURVEY, YOU WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A 50% RESPONSE RATES. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY UNREALISTIC, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WAY WE ARE KIND OF SENDING THIS OUT OVER SUCH A BROAD, YOU KNOW, CITY, RIGHT? I WOULD SAY, MAYBE 830% RESPONSE RATE WOULD BE GREAT, 20% RESPONSE RATE WOULD BE GREAT. THAT IS 2000, 3000 PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL GET THERE, WE WILL CERTAINLY TRY. I DO THINK THE NEWS STORY WILL HELP. OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU'RE OUT TALKING TO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, MENTION IT. THAT WILL HELP RESPONSE RATES. EVENTUALLY, EVEN IF WE DON'T RECEIVE THAT RESPONSE RATE, WE WILL STILL HAVE GOOD , WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ANSWERED IT, RIGHT? YOU'RE RIGHT, I DON'T LIKE THAT QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL ANSWER. HONESTLY, IT COMES DOWN TO YOU GUYS. THERE COMES A TIME AND YOU ARE LIKE, HEY, WHATEVER YOU GUYS HAVE, LET US GO WITH THAT, THAT WE WILL GO

WITH THAT. >> I WAS CAN ASKED THAT QUESTION, THERE. CAN WE SAY STOP, ENOUGH? LET'S JUST MOVE

ON? >> THIS IS YOUR RODEO. OF

COURSE. >> COULD YOU REVIEW, AGAIN, WHO THE SURVEY WAS SENT TO ? HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THAT?

>> I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE WE GOT A LIST OF REGISTERED VOTERS FROM

THE CITY. >> I SENT THEM A LISTING OF ZIP

CODE BY ZIP CODE. >> WE TRIED TO GO THE IU HEALTH ROUTE. REGISTER VOTERS ENDED UP WORKING. WHEN WE ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT DOING THIS, WE ORIGINALLY THAT WE HAVE REGISTER VOTERS AND FOR SOME REASON, THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT INITIALLY. WE SHIFTED TO THE IU HEALTH ROUTE. LONG STORY SHORT, BETWEEN THE WAY WE WOULD GET THAT INFORMATION, OUR IRB AND US, WE DIDN'T HIT THE QUALIFICATION FOR BEING CONSIDERED NEEDING REVIEW FOR A SURVEY, WHICH WE NEEDED TO HAVE IN ORDER TO GET THE LIST SO WE WERE IN THIS WEIRD KIND OF MIDDLE PHASE, WHERE WE DIDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENT FOR NEEDING FULL REVIEW, BUT WE ALSO COULDN'T GET THE DATA. OUT WE WENT WITH THIS AND THAT IS BETTER ANYWAY. PEOPLE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS MEETINGS, COMMUNITY HEALTH PERSON AND I WOULD IT BE CONSIDERED IN THAT ROLE. IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT IS REGISTERED VOTERS. IF YOU'RE NOT A REGISTERED VOTER, YOU WOULD NOT BE IN THE SAMPLE. HOPEFULLY THOSE WHO ARE REGISTERED VOTERS ARE PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THEIR CITY AND OUTCOMES.

>> WAS IT BY AGE? >> YES. 55 AND UP.

>> OKAY. YOU WERE ABLE TO DO THAT, GOOD.

>> YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO HAPPENS TO OPEN A LETTER AND WAS A 55 AND OLDER THEY THEORETICALLY COULD HAVE FILLED IT OUT BUT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PUT YOUR BIRTHDATE ON ALL OF THIS SO I WOULD ASSUME, YOU KNOW, IF I GOT A LETTER IN THE MAIL FROM US AND IT WAS FOR MY MOM I WOULDN'T BE

FILLING OUT HER SURVEY. >> DID YOU GET ANY COMMENTS?

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>> NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF. THERE ARE SOME FILL IN THE BLANK STUFF, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS MUCH. THERE WAS ONE GERMAN SUPER PEEVED THAT WE HAD HIS INFORMATION SO WE TOOK HIM OUT OF THE SURVEY. THAT WAS THE ONLY, HOW DID YOU GET MY INFORMATION TYPE THING. OBVIOUSLY, IF ANYONE DOESN'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SURVEY, OBVIOUSLY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUT FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE DO RESEND OUT THE SURVEY, I PROMISE WE WILL NOT SEND IT TO HIM AGAIN. WE WILL MAKE SURE WE

DON'T DO THAT. YEP. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO? THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU HAVE BEEN DOING. I KNOW THIS IS A JOB. YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT WHEN WE GET THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS WE WILL SAY IT IS WORTH IT.

>> FOR SHORT. LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY, TRY TO GO UNTIL WE GET 30% WOULD BE GREAT. WE DON'T GET THERE AND YOU GUYS ARE LIKE, HEY, WE ARE READY TO MAKE MOVES, THE OTHER THING THAT IS A POSSIBILITY IS, THERE IS A WAY , A STATISTICAL WAY WHERE WE CAN SAY, OKAY, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ANSWERED THE SURVEY, THIS IS THE GENERAL DEMOGRAPHIC, SO PEOPLE 55 AND OLDER WHO LIVE IN CARMEL, WE CAN WAIT FOR RESPONSES SO WE LOOK MORE REPRESENTATIVE SO WE CAN DO THAT, THERE. BUT EVEN FOR THAT, YOU WANT AS MUCH VARIETY AS YOU CAN. LET'S SAY ONLY 499 WOMEN THAT ANSWERED AND ONE MAN, HIS RESPONSE WOULD COUNT FOR 50% OF THE ANSWERS SO WE WANT AS MUCH VARIABILITY AS POSSIBLE.

>> BUT THAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THE AGES, RIGHT?

>> S. >> WE HAVE THE DEMOGRAPHIC 55 TO PROBABLY 75. AND AND 75 TO 100 OR WHATEVER IT WAS.

>> YES. >> I AM JUST WONDERING, WHEN YOU PRSENT DATA, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO BREAK IT DOWN BY POPULATION AND SHOW WAS THE RESPONSES FROM BOTH GROUPS TO SEE WHERE THERE

IS A DIFFERENCE? >> YEAH. IF THERE IS ANYTHING, ONCE WE GET ALL THE DATA, I WILL DO A GOOD REPORT. IF YOU SAY, HEY, WE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS QUESTION AND HOW IT WAS ANSWERED BY PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS, WE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN HOW PEOPLE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION DIFFERENTLY, THEIR MEN, WOMEN, I WILL TRY TO MAKE A REPORT THAT HAS SOME OF THAT SO YOU GET INFORMATION BUT IF THERE IS ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY AFTER YOU READ IT THAT YOU ARE LIKE, WOW I REALLY WISH I KNEW THIS QUESTION SEPARATED, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO WOMEN WHO ARE 50 AND OLDER , 50 AND ABOVE, MEN, YOU KNOW, DO IT BY AGE AND GENDER, WE CAN DO THAT, THERE. OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT FOR EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT IS LABOR-INTENSIVE. IF THERE IS ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY YOU'RE INTERESTED IN WHEN WE ARE DONE, YEAH.

>> I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS A COMMENT AND WE GOT A LETTER ON THIS. SOME OF OUR, THERE IS NO COST TO THE CITY OF CARMEL FOR THE SURVEY, RIGHT? SO CARMEL CITY IS NOT PAYING YOU TO DO THIS WORK.

>> NO, THEY ARE NOT. IN FACT, WE ARE USING , PERSONAL REFUNDS -- PERSONAL RESEARCH FUNDS ARE BEING USED TO DO THAT, WE ARE

VOLUNTEERING OUR TIME. >> I THINK THAT IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE. YOU GUYS HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME.

THIS IS VERY TEDIOUS WORK. WE ARE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL YOU ARE WILLING AND YOU AND DR. BOUSTANI ARE WILLING TO DO THIS. I KNOW IT CAN COST A LOT OF MONEY TO CONDUCT A SURVEY SUCH AS THIS, SO WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE YOU. I WANT YOU TO KNOW WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE YOUR

JOB EASIER -- >> HE LIVES IN CARMEL AND IS AGING SO I THINK HE HAS A VESTED INTEREST. I DON'T LIVE IN CARMEL, BUT I AM ALSO AGING . AGING ADJACENT I AM INTERESTED, THERE. I DRIVE HERE FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK WHAT'S GREAT IS IF YOU ARE PRIVILEGED TO BE SO, EVERYONE GETS OLDER SO WHAT AFFECTS OLDER PEOPLE EVERYONE SHOULD CARE

ABOUT. SO, YEAH. >> YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST MET HIM AND ASKED HIM ABOUT THIS, HE SAID, YES, I LIVE HERE SO I AM VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE I AM OLDER. WE ARE SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE HIM, AS WELL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ANY OF YOU MIGHT HAVE? AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY, BUT YOU'RE ALSO WELCOME, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT THINGS TO DO.

>> I GOT A SHOOT OUT. I GOT TWO LITTLES AT HOME AND A PUPPY, ALTHOUGH I DID THAT TO MYSELF, I DON'T KNOW. I WILL PROBABLY GO

BACK TO HELP RELIEVE DAD. >> IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY ON THE SURVEYS, THE CONFERENCE AND THAT KIND OF THING, I WILL BE SURE TO REACH OUT.

>> REACH OUT TO ME, IF IT'S NOT NEXT WEEK BUT THE WEEK AFTER THAT, I WILL STILL HAVE MY EMAIL AND MY PHONE BUT REACH OUT TO NICK STEWART. HE'S THE RESEARCH ASSISTANT ON THE MAT. THAT IS HIS OFFICE NUMBER, I BELIEVE, THAT IS ON THE SURVEY FORM. HE

IS LOVELY AND RESPONSIVE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU

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SO VERY MUCH. OKAY, NEXT, I AM GOING TO HAVE OLD BUSINESS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS. I HAVE ASKED EACH OF YOU TO SORT OF REPORT ON YOUR COMMITTEES. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE THING, BUT I JUST SORT OF WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IN EACH OF OUR AREAS AND WHAT WE MIGHT, UM, BE FOCUSING ON IN THE FUTURE. LEESA, DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST?

>> THIS IS UNDER THE CAMERA OVER THERE, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS RECORDED OR JUST A HANDOUT FOR EVERYBODY. STANDS GOOD. SO, SUCCESS. THE CITY IS NOW , WE NOW HAVE A WEBPAGE BUS. THIS WAS THE MISSING PIECE WHERE WE WANTED TO SEE WHO WAS GOING TO MANAGE THIS AND HOW IT WOULD BE PRESENTED. WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE THE TRIGGER THAT WE NEED FOR NEXT STEPS OR RECOMMENDATIONS.

WHAT WE ALL UNANIMOUSLY DECIDED WE HAVE AN AUDIENCE OF DIFFERENT AGES AND PERHAPS DIFFERENT INTERESTS, BUT THEY ALL HAD SHARED NEEDS. THOSE NEEDS ARE PART OF WHAT WE ARE COLLECTING IN OUR SURVEY AND ALSO REPRESENTED IN DATA WE HAVE COLLECTED OR HEARD OF FROM OTHER EXPERTS IN SURVEYS THEY HAVE ADMINISTERED. SO, AGAIN, THAT UNIVERSAL APPROACH WAS OUR HOPE THAT WE COULD SORT OF SIMPLIFY AND ORGANIZE WHAT PEOPLE SEE SO WE ARE NOT OVERWHELMED. WE WANT THEM TO FEEL EMPOWERED. WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE HAVE SUCH A FABULOUS CITY, WE HAD INFORMATION THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME TO KNOW WHO TO CALL. AGAIN, THAT UNIVERSAL NEED-BASED ORGANIZATION SYSTEM IS KEY. THE SECOND THING WAS, WE WANTED TO DEVELOP LINKS SORT OF ALREADY KNOW OR HAVE GUESSED. WE CAN ALWAYS MASSAGE THAT, REMOVE THINGS AND ADD THINGS WHEN WE GET OUR DATA BACK. BUT IT WAS A GOOD STARTING POINT. THE WEBPAGE IS THERE AND WE CAN AT LEAST PUT SOMETHING UP THERE. AND THEN, WHAT WE WANTED TO TRY TO DO WAS CONNECT DIRECTLY WITH APPROVED ENTITIES. LET ME BE VERY CLEAR, ANY COMMUNICATION THAT WE ACTUALLY DO PUT OUT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED BY THIS COMMISSION, APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION AND I WOULD RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET THERE, CAROL, YOU FOWARD THIS TO THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE VETTING OF APPROVAL. THERE MIGHT BE THINGS ON THIS LIST HERE NOW THAT IT HAS BEEN MADE PUBLIC THAT NEEDS TO BE BEDDED. IT ALL NEEDS TO BE BETTER. THE SECOND POINT THAT IS ALSO IMPORTANT, WE NEED TO INFORM THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE READING THIS WEBSITE THAT WE ARE CURATING SPECIFIC CONTENT LINKS FOR THEM BUT WE ARE NOT MANAGING THE CONTENT ON THOSE LINKS. THAT WILL REQUIRE SOME LIFT FROM OUR PARTNERS IN THE CARMEL COMMUNITY. AND, WHAT WE ARE HOPING , FROM OUR COMMITTEE STANDPOINT, ONCE WE HAVE APPROVED AND HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE CONTENT, WE ASKED THE STAKEHOLDERS TO ORGANIZE THEIR SENIOR CENTRIC INFORMATION AND PERHAPS EVEN ADD A HIDDEN PAGE THAT MAYBE WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, BUT WOULD BE LINKABLE FROM OUR CITY WEBPAGE TO THEIR PAGE. AND THE LASTING WOULD BE, LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING WOULD NOT BE POSTED OR LIVE THERE UNTIL IT WAS VETTED FULLY AND PRESENTED . THE LAST THING WE THOUGHT ABOUT, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A VIDEO FROM THE MAYOR. THIS IS HER COMMISSION, THIS IS HER IDEA TO TRY TO CREATE A PLATFORM WHERE OUR SENIOR CITIZENS, 55 AND OLDER, CAN GO TO ONE PLACE BUT WE WANT TO ONBOARD THEM TO UNDERSTAND. THE FIRST THING WE WANT TO DO IS WELCOME THEM. THERE IS A NEED TO HELP SENIORS 55 AND OLDER, PEOPLE MOVING TO THE COMMUNITY OR HAVE BEEN HERE IN A LONG TIME AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND THEY JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START. WE ALSO WANT TO COMMUNICATE THAT WE ARE COUNTY OWNED PARTNERSHIPS, BUT IF THEY FIND SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T WORK, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY NEGLIGENCE ON OUR PART, IT IS THAT WE ARE COUNTING ON OUR PARTNERS TO KEEP THE CONTENT RELEVANT AND UP-TO-DATE. THE LAST THING WOULD BE, WE WILL WANT TO HAVE A CONTACT, SORT OF LIKE WHAT MONICA WAS TALKING ABOUT, WITH HER RESEARCH ASSISTANT, NICK . WE WANT TO HAVE EITHER IN AN EMAIL, I RECOMMEND AN EMAIL SO WE HAVE A PRINTED TRAIL FOR THIS, OF ANY FEEDBACK PEOPLE HAVE. THINGS THEY TRIED OR WHATEVER. THAT WOULD BE AGAIN, TO YOU, CAROL. I THINK, AS A COMMUNICATION COMMITTEE, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THEM HAVE LINE OF SIGHT TO MANAGE THESE .

BUT IT NEEDS TO BE TRANSPARENT, OF COURSE, WHERE OTHERS CAN SEE IT. AND THEN THE LAST THING, OF COURSE, IS A LIST OF THE SUBCATEGORIES. JUST TO READ THEM, YOU KNOW, HOUSING, SOCIAL SERVICES, COMMUNITY HUBS, CULTURAL LINKS, CITY SERVICES FOR SENIORS, HEALTH AND WELLNESS, TRANSPORTATION ARE SOME NEED-BASED SERVICES. I LISTED A FEW HERE, JUST TO SHOWCASE WHEN I AM IMAGINING. SO LINKS TO CARMEL 55 AND UP HOUSING PROJECTS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, LINKS TO EXISTING SENIOR APARTMENTS, POSSIBLE PROJECT STORY, THIS WAS AN ARTICLE I SAW

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IN CURRENT. THEY HAD A NEAT WAY TO CURE RATE BIDS FOR PEOPLE.

THEY HAVE NOT BEEN VETTED. I HOPE TO MEET WITH THEM TO PRISON WHETHER OR NOT IT IS A GOOD FIT FOR US. AGAIN, FOR THE SAKE OF THIS CONVERSATION, UM, PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO HAVE MULTIPLE BIDS WOULD, I THINK, BE VERY IMPORTANT. AND THEN THE SOCIAL SERVICES, THE SHEPHERD CENTER, THERE ARE FOOD PANTRIES, SOME ARE REFRIGERATED, SOME OR NOT. SOMEWHERE IN CHURCHES. ALL THE ONES I KNOW OF ARE IN CARMEL BUT, AGAIN, HAVING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW TO ACCESS THOSE, IF THEY ARE EXPERIENCING FOOD INSECURITY. SENIOR COMMUNITY HUBS. I WORKED THERE BUT THAT IS NOT WHY I PUT THAT ON THERE. THEY DO HAVE A 75 OR OLDER POPULATION THAT TENDS TO COME THERE FOR COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT.

THE CENTER HAS SOME FANTASTIC PROGRAMS WIH EXERCISE. I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A SOCIAL CLUB RIGHT NOW. THE SHEPHERD CENTER HAS TOGETHER TODAY. THERE ARE RICH, ROBUST PROGRAMS THAT, AGAIN, WE WANT THE STAKEHOLDERS TO DIRECT TO CARMEL RESIDENCE. CAMPBELLTON COUNTY PARKS I DIDN'T MEAN TO LEAVE THEM ON. THERE IS ONE PARTNER IN HERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN'T GET MORE CONNECTION WITH THEM AND I DON'T HOW TO DO THIS, BUT THAT WOULD BE CURRENT. THEY HAVE A PRINT AND A DIGITAL PLATFORM. THEY HAVE A 55 PLUS SECTION AND A REALLY GOOD ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT SECTION. THEY COULD HELP US SORT OF WRANGLE EVERYTHING TOGETHER, NOT TO PULL THE RODEO HAT OUT HERE. ANYWAY, SO IT IS A START. I WON'T TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION. I KNOW WE HAVE A DIVISION DOING THAT. OF COURSE, THEY WOULD WANT TO INFLUENCE WHAT GOES END. AND THEN, THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS GO I THINK, THERE ARE KEY STAKEHOLDERS. I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO THE SENIOR PROGRAMS. FOR EXAMPLE, IU HEALTH HAS A HEALTHCARE TEAM, ASCENSION HAS A PACE PROGRAM, COMMUNITY HEALTH, IT GOES ON AND ON. THAT IS THE BULK OF MY REPORT FOR THIS. WOULD LOVE TO

YOUR QUESTIONS. >> THE CHANGE I WOULD MAKE IS UNDER TRANSPORTATION. IT SHOULD BE THE HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESS.

>> THANK YOU. >> LEESA, THE NEW WEBSITE IS UP?

>> YES. JUST YESTERDAY. IT HAS BEEN UP FOR A WHILE BUT I JUST LEARNED ABOUT IT. I DID PRINT A COPY OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING TO HERE. BASICALLY, IT IS PART OF A TURNKEY TEMPLATE THAT THE MAYOR IS USING. ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND IT, IT IS REALLY EASY TO NAVIGATE. WHAT I WAS IMAGINING IS, WHERE WE HAVE AT THE BOTTOM RESOURCES, WE CAN BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT THESE APPROVED LINKS. THEY CAN GO OUT JUST AS SOON AS, LIKE WHEN YOU SAY GO, WE WILL START. I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS DIRECTION COME DIRECTLY FROM YOU AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN REPORT BACK DIRECTLY TO YOU AND YOU CAN SAY WHAT TO PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION OR IF YOU WANT US TO PRESENT AGAIN LIKE THIS.

>> ARE YOU COORDINATING AT ALL WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT?

>> THAT IS MY HOPE. MY HOPE IS TO TAKE THIS TO THAT NEXT LEVEL.

THIS IS THE HEAVY, HEAVY LIFT WHERE WE REACH OUT, FIND A POINT OF CONTACT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF VERBIAGE FROM THE CITY THAT SAYS WE ARE REACHING OUT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. THIS IS AN EFFORT THAT ALIGNS WITH THE MAYORAL COMMISSION ON SENIOR LIVING AND THAT THIS IS THE REASON WE ARE ASKING. THIS IS NOT A UNIQUE PROJECT. THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT CARMEL RESIDENTS CAN COUNT ON FOR HOPEFULLY A LONG TIME, REGARDLESS OF POLITICS, BUT A PLATFORM OF RESOURCES.

>> RESOURCES. >> IT CAN BE USED.

>> THAT WILL BE THE GIFT. >> THAT WAS MY NEXT THOUGHT. I DO THINK IT WILL BE, ONCE WE GET THIS PAGE AND IN PLACE, I THINK WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE SOME SPOT CHECKING THAT IS DONE.

>> SOMEBODY THAT WILL MONITOR. >> AND THE OTHER THING IS, THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT OR WHOEVER IS MANAGING THIS WEBPAGE COMMIT THEIR NEEDS TO BE A NOTE, I THINK, THAT SAYS THESE LINKS ARE REVIEWED AT WHATEVER CADENCE IS GOOD FOR THE STAFF THERE.

WHETHER IT IS 30 DAYS, 90 DAYS, 365 DAYS, WHATEVER WORKS FOR THEM, THE TEAM THAT IS CHECKING IN ON THIS HAS A BOILERPLATE EMAIL THAT GOES TO THAT PERSON. THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME BOUNCE BACK. WE WILL ALLOW EXTRA TIME FOR THAT AND BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME PHONE CALL SO WE CAN SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO GET THIS UPDATED. THIS INFORMATION IS NOT ACCURATE.

>> IN THE WE ALSO HAVE OUR CONFERENCE TO BE AN END, THERE.

WE WILL HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THOSE. HOW DO WE GET THIS ALL

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OUT? >> THE CONFERENCE RIGHT NOW, I THE NEED-BASED, BUT I WOULD N - THINK THAT THE CONFERENCE COULD ACTUALLY GO UNDER A COUPLE OF THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

BECAUSE IT IS A RESOURCE. WE COULD EVEN HAVE THE REGISTRATION THERE. AGAIN, THOSE ARE MOVING PIECES. NEXT STEPS WOULD BE GETTING A GOOD TO GO FROM THE COMMISSION FOR ME TO BEGIN THIS.

I WILL SAY I NEED AT LEAST 30 DAYS TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH WHAT I HOPE WILL BE SOME, UM, VERY EXCITED PARTNERS. THE LIBRARY HAS ALREADY GIVEN US SOME IDEAS. THEY HAVE NOT PUT IT ALL ON ONE PAGE. THERE IS SOME BEHIND-THE-SCENES THEY HAVE TO

DO OR NOT DO . >> IT WILL TAKE YOU SOMETIME.

>> WE ARE CLOSER. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LEESA? NO? GOOD JOB, LEESA, THAT IS GREAT. I WILL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE CONFERENCE AND HOW WE HAVE DONE THAT. THAT HAS BEEN SEPARATE. WE WILL GET INTO THAT, AS WELL. JOHN, HOW ABOUT YOU? WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION?

>> WHY NOT? I PUT TOGETHER A NOTE HERE AND THEN I WENT THROUGH IT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. BUT ANYWAY, ESSENTIALLY, UM, AS COMMITTEE, OUR COMMITTEE IS ON - CHARGED WITH RECOMMENDING THE BEST SOLUTION AT AIDING AND HELPING THOSE CITIZENS WHO DO NOT LIVE IN A SENIOR COMMUNITY AND HAVE TRANSPORTATION REQUIREMENTS. IN OUR FINDINGS, WE FOUND OUT THAT PROBABLY97% OF PEOPLE WHO STILL DO NOT LIVE IN A COMMUNITY, WHO STILL KIND OF TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, BUT WHAT I DID TODAY, I WENT DOWN AND I LOOKED AT THE HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESS . ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WITH THE HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESS AND WE ALSO MET WITH ROGER MCMICHAEL WITH SCHOOLS AND HE HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL. IN FACT, THEY WOULD OFFER THEIR WHITE BUSES AS HELP IN TRANSPORTING, WHEN NEEDED. HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESS ALSO WOULD PROVIDE A BUS THAT WOULD BE PARKED HERE SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE GOING TO NOBLESVILLE TO PICK SOMEBODY UP, WHICH WOULD REALLY HELP. SO WE ARE THAT FAR ALONG. WE ARE TO THE POINT WHERE WE PROBABLY ARE READY TO TRIGGER AND GET STARTED. HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESS, UM, AFTER WE PLACE A BUS HERE IN CARMEL. FISHERS IS ALREADY DOING IT. WESTFIELD IS ALREADY DOING IT. WE WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO WORK OUT A FUEL SYSTEM WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, WHERE WE WOULD FUEL THE BUS HERE AND THEN WE WOULD BE CHARGED , HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESS WOULD BE CHARGED FOR THAT BUT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO RUN BACK TO NOBLESVILLE ALL THE TIME. SO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO COMPLETE AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAMILTON COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM FAIRLY SOON. THE, UM, THE, UM, REAL PART OF IT IS TO BEGIN TO TELL YOUR NEIGHBORS THAT THIS IS AVAILABLE. BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS. ME, PERSONALLY, I AM GOING TO CALL HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESS. I HAVE A DOCTORS APPOINTMENT NEXT WEEK. I WILL SEE HOW IT WORKS. I WILL RIDE THE BUS. I WILL SEE HOW THE SSTEM WORKS. ESSENTIALLY, WHAT YOU DO, THERE IS A PHONE NUMBER YOU CALL. YOU NEED A 24-HOUR NOTICE BEFORE TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT. THEY ARE AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO MAKE , THE BUSES ARE AVAILABLE FROM 6:00 A.M. TO 6:00 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, SATURDAY FROM 7:00 A.M. UNTIL 3:00 P.M. IT IS THREE HOURS ONE WAY, SIX HOURS ROUND-TRIP. YOU COULD ALSO BUY A PASS FOR $3.00. WE CAN GIVE YOU 10 RIDES TO RESERVE A RIDE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY TO MAKE YOUR APPOINTMENT.

THEY HAVE WHEELCHAIR LIFTS AVAILABLE, IF YOU NEED IT. AND, UM, YOU JUST CALL AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU NEED THAT. SO, CAROL, I JUST FEEL LIKE OUR LITTLE

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COMMITTEE , WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE MET WITH THE COUNTY , THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER. HE IS KIND OF WORKING TO MAKE THIS A SUCCESS AND WE JUST NEED TO COMPLETE OUR WORK ON THIS AND PROBABLY PUT TOGETHER A LITTLE AGREEMENT BETWEEN CARMEL AND HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESS AND WE ARE OFF AND RUNNING.

>> I THINK THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE SYSTEM IN PLACE WITH THE COUNTY AND WHY ARE WE REPEATING TRYING TO DO OUR OWN THING WHEN WE CAN JUST COMBINE AND IT WORKS MUCH EASIER AND MUCH LESS, MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE. YOU ARE GOING TO BRING ONE OF THOSE BUSES TO THE CONFERENCE, RIGHT?

>> THERE WILL BE A BUS AT THE CONFERENCE PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT.

ONE OF THE THINGS, IN GOING THROUGH ALL THIS AND DISCUSSING IT IS THAT THEIR SYSTEM IS AVAILABLE COUNTYWIDE. IT WAS AT ONE TIME PART OF COUNTY EXPRESS AND COMMISSIONERS WILL MAKE SURE IT IS RAN PROPERLY AND IT WILL BE ANOTHER SYSTEM SET UP WITH THE COUNTY.

SO, UM, I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IT. WE TALKED TO THEM. AND, UM,

I THINK WE ARE READY. >> YES. I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT IS EXCITING IS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

THE SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE AND EAGER TO SAY, HEY, WE CAN GIVE YOU SOME OLDER BUSES. WE CAN HELP WITH FUEL. WE CAN DO ALL THESE THINGS. IT IS SORT OF EXCITING TO SORT OF SEE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT , YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE BUS BEING THERE THAT DAY, THERE. I THINK THE HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESS RUNS BY MY HOUSE ALL THE TIME. THERE ARE ALWAYS SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THERE ALMOST DAILY RUNS BY MY

HOUSE. >> THEY ACTUALLY HAVE CONNECTIONS WITH MARION COUNTY , CERTAIN PLACES ALONG 96TH STREET, WHERE, IF YOU NEED TO GO DOWNTOWN INDIANAPOLIS, YOU CAN MEET WITH INDY GO AND THEY WILL TAKE YOU DOWN THERE.

>> JOHN, I DO WANT TO BRING UP, UM, A CONCERN BY A RESIDENT. I AM VERY GLAD YOU ARE GOING TO TRY IT YOURSELF.

>> I THINK WE SHOULD ALL DO IT. >> AND THE CONCERN IS STAFFING.

WHERE THEY HAVE HAD AN EXPERIENCE SETTING THE APPOINTMENT AND THEN PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE , NOT GETTING DRIVERS. SO, OR THE DRIVER CANCELED, YOU KNOW . SO THAT IS

A CONCERN. >> AND THOSE ARE THINGS WE WILL BE WORKING ON. AND I THINK IT WILL HELP THAT WE HAVE A BUS HERE IN CARMEL THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET IN FROM NOBLESVILLE

TO PICK SOMEBODY UP. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN THEY GO ANYWHERE, OR ARE THERE CERTAIN SERVICES THEY WILL DRIVE YOU TO? CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT

THAT? >> THEY WILL GO ANYPLACE IN HAMILTON COUNTY. LIKE I SAID, WE ALSO HAVE SOME CONNECTIONS .

>> NO, SIR. WHAT I MEAN IS, IF I WANTED TO GO TO A MOVIE WITH A FRIEND, CAN I STILL USE THEIR SERVICE?

>> SURE. >> THERE ARE NO LIMITATIONS, NOT JUST FOR MEDICAL? THAT IS WHAT I AM AFTER. THE SOCIAL PIECES WHAT

I AM ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT. >> THE ONE COMPONENT, THE ONE THING WE NEED TO WORK ON, THAT IS THE APPOINTMENS FOR DOCTORS BECAUSE THESE BUSES ARE ALSO USED TO TAKE PEOPLE TO WORK EARLY IN THE MORNING. IF WE COULD GET TO THE POINT WHERE DOCTORS WOULD, THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT AN APPOINTMENT SAVE BETWEEN 11:00 AND 3:00 IS IDEAL VERSUS 8:00 IN THE MORNING OR 4:00 IN THE AFTERNOON BECAUSE THESE BUSES ARE JUST MORE THAN TRANSPORTING SENIORS. THEY ARE ALSO TAKING PEOPLE TO WORK.

>> CAROL, IS THAT SOMETHING OUR BUDGET, AT THE NEXT STAGE, WHEN IT IS APPROPRIATE, THAT THIS COULD BE COMMUNICATED OUT IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT CURRENT 55 AND OLDER, WHERE WE CAN SAY, HERE'S THE NEWS FROM THE COMMISSION. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED. THIS IS THE BEST PRACTICE WHEN MAKING

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APPOINTMENTS. YOU WILL FIND YOU HAVE MORE ACCESS TO THE SERVICES IF YOU BOOK THEM AT THESE LATER TIMES, LIKE WHAT WAS JUST

DESCRIBED . >> YOU NO. THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT TIMING TO SOME OF OUR POSITIONS -- POSITIONS IN THEIR OFFICES ASKING THEM TO COOPERATE WITH APPOINTMENTS LATER IN THE DAY. I JUST EXPERIENCED THAT BECAUSE I HAD CATARACT SURGERY. I WANTED IT EARLY IN THE MORNING BUT I COULDN'T GET SOMEBODY TO DRIVE ME THERE. NOT THAT EARLY. SO I HAD TO CHANGE IT TO LATER IN THE DAY BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION AND YOU CAN'T DRIVE. SO, YES, I THINK IF YOU START TALKING TO SOME OF THESE, CATARACT SURGERIES, A LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE HAVE CATARACT SURGERY. THEY WANT THEM, YOU KNOW, THE DOCTORS WANT TO GET THEM EARLY IN THE MORNING SO MOVING INTO THE AFTERNOON, I THINK WE WILL BE WORKING ON THAT. WE WILL SEE IF WE CAN GET THEIR COOPERATION, AS WELL.

ANYTHING ELSE, JOHN? >> THAT IS IT.

>> OKAY. YOU ARE NEXT IN HOUSING. YOU AND RICH HAD A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION. LIKE THE ONE BEFORE.

>> YES. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW-UP WITH WHEN WE HAD THE PRESENTATION BY THE SPEAKERS AND DEVELOPERS. UM, MATT MATTINGLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE STARTED THIS, BUT THE NORTH END , I REALLY LIKE THAT. I THINK WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS , FOR HOUSING 55 AND UP, DEALING WITH DIFFERENT, UM, ECONOMIC , YOU KNOW, SEGMENTS. AND SO HIS WAS MORE, UM, FOR SOCIALIZATION, ATTAINABILITY , MORE, UM, I WOULD SAY 65 AND UP . RENTAL OPPORTUNITIES. SOMEWHERE AROUND 2000 A MONTH. WHICH IS A LITTLE LESS THEN ASSISTED LIVING OR SOME OF THE INDEPENDENT LIVING AND TO HAVE A CONCIERGE ON SITE AND THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON THAT, PARTNERING WITH PHYSICIANS. I PHONED IN, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE ACTUALLY STARTED IT, BUT IT IS UNDERWAY . THE OTHER IS, ALSO, BHI. THAT IS BARRINGTON AND HOOSIER VILLAGE. THEY WANT TO EXPAND. THOSE ARE 55 AND UP COMMUNITIES ALSO COMING IN ZIONSVILLE BUT I WANT TO STICK WITH CARMEL. CITY COUNCIL JUST APPROVED HOUSING DEVELOPMENT , SIGNATURE 55. THAT WAS AT THE MEETING. IT IS GOING TO BE CRC AND THE CARMEL INAUDIBLE MACK -- PLANNING ON 200 APARTMENTS. AND ABOUT FOUR ACRES FOR VETERANS.

IN THAT AREA. WHICH EVERYBODY IS WAITING FOR THAT. ONCE THEY GET THE FUNDING, REBAR DEVELOPERS. ONCE THEY GET THE FUNDING, THE CRC WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY AND THEN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WILL PARTNER WITH OTHERS TO DESIGN IT. THE PARK.

THERE'S GOING TO BE CERTAIN AREAS , WE TALK ABOUT, UM, BEVERAGES , -- RECREATION AREAS. THEY WILL RESTRICTED TO CERTAIN TIMES.

WHEN THEY HAVE WINTERGREEN, CHRISTKINDLMARKET , THEY WON'T HAVE IT FOR THAT. AND CERTAIN FAMILY CONCERTS. SO THERE WILL BE SOME LIMITATION WHEN THEY HAVE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES. THE OTHER IS GROUND. IT'S CALLED METAL STONE. THEY ARE TAKING APPLICATIONS NOW. SO THAT IS GOOD. HE HAD MENTIONED PRICES 700 TO 900 WHEN HE GAVE THE PRESENTATION. BUT I THINK, UM, THEIR WEBSITE , THERE ARE SOME HALF A MILLION. SO JUST TALKING TO THEM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THERE. AND THAT'S

PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE. >> SO THOSE PROJECTS WILL WORK

SLOWLY. >> YES.

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>> A GREAT VARIETY. GREAT VARIETY. I APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ? THAT IS SORT OF A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH HOUSING. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE REALLY HAVE TO KEEP OUR EYES AND EARS OPEN TO WHAT IS GOING IN. LIKE I HAVE ALWAYS SAID, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT CARE ISSUES.

>> I WILL SAY, BECAUSE THIS IS CARMEL, UM, WE ARE KIND OF LANDLOCKED. SO, WHEREAS AREAS FURTHER NORTH , THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE A LOT MORE SENIOR, 55 UP COMMUNITIES. WE JUST DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SPACE. SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH

THE REALITIES. >> WE HAVE LIMITATIONS. IS NOT OUR FAULT WE HAVE LIMITATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS -- IT'S

GOOD TO HAVE AN UPDATE. >> JOHN, YOUR LAST, BUT NOT LEAST. JOHN REALLY TRIED HARD TO GET OUR LUNCH PROVIDED FOR OUR CONFERENCE WITH NOT MUCH SUCCESS BUT THAT'S OKAY.

MAYBE THE NEXT TIME. YOU BEEN BUSY BUT MAYBE NOT SO MUCH IN

JUST YOUR PARTICULAR COMMITTEE. >> I AM GLAD IN A LONG-WINDED WAY BUT MYSPACE , MY GROUP , OPPORTUNITIES HERE ARE OUTDOOR SPACES. ONE OF THE THINGS TO SORT OF PIGGYBACK ON THAT WE HAD TO DO WITH THE HOUSING ASPECT OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO HELP WITH IS WE HAVE A LOT OF NICE GREEN SPACES. I AM SORT OF , I AM REAL VISUAL. I LIKE TO LOOK IN MY MIND, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS IT ? TO HELP ME WITH THAT, I STARTED BY GOING TO AARP LIVABILITY INDEX PLATFORM. YOU MIGHT KNOW ABOUT IT. I LOOKED AT IT. I HARDCOPY DEAD. THIS WAS AT THE ONSET OF THE YEAR. WE ARE DOING PRETTY GOOD IN CARMEL, AS FAR AS WHAT WE HAVE. I THINK THE BIG BRIDGE HERE, I LIKE TO BE A MATCHMAKER AND TRY TO EXPLAIN OR TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT WHAT WE REALLY DO HAVE, SO THE REAL OPPORTUNITIES HERE ARE TO TRY TO FIND OUT USING ALL THE MATERIALS FROM AARP AND THE GENTLEMAN WE MET WITH AT AARP HELPED ME A LOT OF THIS IS SORT OF A LITTLE SHOW AND TELL. THESE ARE MATERIALS THAT WERE SENT TO ME IN FOUR PARTS. THE FIRST PART, CREATING PARKS AND PUBLIC SPACES. WE'VE ALREADY DONE A GOOD JOB IN THAT.

WE HAVE, IN MANY PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, OUR COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE CREATED COMMUNITY GARDENS. MAYBE NOT SO MUCH HERE, BUT IT IS AN IDEA. SOME OF THAT BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACE OUT THERE.

THERE ARE SOME OTHER, A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS HERE. THERE IS A PLACE MAKING POP-UP TOOLKIT THAT ALLOWS, AS WE GO FORWARD, OUR COMMUNITY TO EXPLAIN TO US WHAT COULD BE DONE IN CERTAIN AREAS TO ENHANCE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. AND THEN THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED A WALK AUDIT TOOLKIT. THAT GETS MORE INTO, UM, WALKING ABILITY WE MIGHT HAVE AND INTO TRANSPORTATION. BUT WHAT I HAVE TRIED TO DO IN PREPARATION OF AARP LIVABILITY GROUP STANDARDS AND THEN COMPARE THAT TO WHAT CARMEL HAS HAD ALL THE WHILE. MAYBE NOT SO APPARENT TO A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY . AND I THINK IT IS REALLY INTERGENERATIONAL THE THING WE ARE DOING HERE BECAUSE IT INVOLVES GRANDPARENTS AND PARENTS, GRANDCHILDREN AND ALL THESE WONDERFUL PARKS AND SPACES WE HAVE. AND OTHER COMMUNITY AREAS COULD BE MADE MORE AVAILABLE IF WE WERE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THAT IN A WAY TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE. THAT GETS IN WITH WHAT YOU ARE TELLING US, JOHN, ABOUT TRANSPORTATION. THIS COULD BE ENHANCED, STARTING OUT WITH OUR HEALTHCARE NEEDS AND OTHER NEEDS INTO PROVIDING OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE TRANSPORTATION TO MEET THESE THINGS. THE OTHER THING I FOUND OUT, JUST RESEARCHING THIS, I

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ACTUALLY HAS 20 DEPARTMENTS AND SERVICES THAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WOULD EXPECT, POLICE, FIRE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE . WE ALSO HAVE OVER 37 COMMITTEES, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO THERE IS AN AWFUL LOT OF SYSTEMS HERE THAT COULD BE TRIGGERED AS WE SEE WHAT OUR SURVEY SHOWS US TO MAKE WHAT IS ALREADY HERE MORE VISIBLE TO OUR COMMUNITY. I JUST HAVE DONE A LOT OF PREPARATION

FOR THAT. >> I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. WE FOUND THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS AVAILABLE TO US. THE SECOND, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND CHALLENGE IS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT IS AVAILABLE, THAT THEY CAN GO TO THESE PLACES AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE DOING THAT, THAT THEY ARE MAKING USE OF

THOSE OPTIONS. >> WHAT LEESA HAS DONE IN TERMS OF THE NEW WEBSITE AND OTHER WAYS TO CMMUNICATE THAT TO OUR COMMUNITY, WE WILL BLEND THAT TOGETHER AND MAKE IT MORE

AVAILABLE. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. THAT IS GOOD WORK. I APPRECIATE THAT. A LOT OF GOOD WORK AND A GOOD WAY TO START. I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW-UP A LITTLE BIT, THERE.

DR. BURKE WAS HERE LAST MEETING. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT DR. BURKE AND I ARE GOING TO SOUTH BEND IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME NEW, UM, NEW AND DIFFERENT IDEAS OF HOW WE CAN TAKE CARE OF SOME OF OUR ALZHEIMER'S PATIENTS, SOME THAT NEED CARE FOR ASSISTED LIVING IN THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

IT IS AN ALL NEW MODEL. IT HAS NOT BEEN BUILT. I THINK IT IS SOMETHING WE REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT HERE FOR CARMEL, THERE. WE WILL GO AND EXPLORE THAT. EVERY CONTACT THAT WE MAY, THERE IS SOMETHING THAT SORT OF COMES OUT FROM THAT. SO, IT IS KIND OF EXCITING NOW TO SAY. I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR WORK. YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. WE GOT A LOT MORE TO DO, BUT I THINK WE ARE SEEING WE ARE MAKING SOME PROGRESS AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. SO THE ONLY OTHER, I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE SHORT UPDATE ON THE CONFERENCE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE HELD OCTOBER 10TH. IT WILL BE AT THE CARMEL PUBLIC LIBRARY. FROM 10:00 A.M. UNTIL 3:00 P.M. SO THIS IS AN ENGAGEMENT TIME FOR OUR SENIORS TO GET ENGAGED IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHAT WE HAVE TRIED TO DO IS TO HAVE A LOT OF OUR LOCAL , YOU KNOW, UNITS THAT CAN PROVIDE SERVICES TO OUR SENIORS, HAVE THEM AVAILABLE, HAVE THEM DO A SHORT LITTLE PRESENTATION AND THEN ALSO HAVE SOME TABLES WHERE SENIORS CAN GO AROUND AND ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. I AM REALLY PLEASED. I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET ABOUT , UM, I DON'T KNOW, ABOUT $6000 WORTH OF SPONSORSHIPS. THAT WILL COVER MOST OF OUR EXPENSE FOR THIS, AS FAR AS OUR MEAL AND OUR COFFEE AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANYTHING ON SPEAKERS.

IT WILL COVER EXPENSES FOR THE DAY. WE ALSO, IF THERE ARE ANY LEFT OVER, WE CAN USE IT FOR NEXT YEAR'S CONFERENCE. I THINK IT WILL BE FOR OTHER THINGS WE ARE PRESENTING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. TWO OF THOSE , KARDON IS OUR MAJOR SPONSOR. THEY ARE VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN JUST FOR THE BEGINNING, THEY WANT TO GIVE US MORE MONEY EACH YEAR, BE A PARTNER WITH US AND MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS COMMISSION IS SUCCESSFUL. SO I WAS REALLY PLEASED ABOUT THAT. WE'VE GOT MY SPEAKERS ALL SET UP. I'VE GOT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, DR. BOUSTANI, THE LIBRARY, HAVE A DOCTORS TALKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS FOR SENIORS FOR HEALTHCARE. I'VE GOT SOMEONE COMING ON MEDICARE FRAUD . JOY'S HOUSE, HOPEFULLY, WILL COME. THEN WE'VE GOT HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESS, OUR BUS WILL BE THE MAD. I HAVE SOMEONE WHO WILL EXPLAIN MEDICARE OPTIONS. THEN MAYBE A MANAGED CARE PERSON WHO WILL GIVE OPTIONS ABOUT HOW WE

CAN TAKE CARE OF OUR LOVED ONES. >> IS THERE STILL ROOM? I AM THINKING SOKOLOFF HAS SOME PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD

FIT. >> S.

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>> I AM AT 12 TABLES RIGHT NOW. I AM HOPING TO GET 15 TO 16.

>> WOULD IT BE OKAY IF I REACHED OUT?

>> I HAD THEM ON MY LIST. I JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET A HOLD

OF THEM. >> YOU WANT TO SHOOT ME A PUNCH LIST OF PEOPLE YOU WANT ME TO REACH OUT TO? I MAY ALREADY HAVE

CONTACTS. >> IF THERE ARE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS YOU ALL THINK SHOULD BE THE END, WE WILL TRY TO SQUEEZE THEM IN, YOU KNOW? I AM A LITTLE TIGHT ON SPACE BECAUSE WE HAVE, AS OF TODAY, 60, ALMOST 60 PEOPLE REGISTERED ALREADY . WE ARE THREE WEEKS OUT. I AM EXPECTING MORE. I AM EXPECTING MORE, YOU KNOW, 100, 150. SO AT THE LIBRARY, WE ARE LIMITED ON SPACE. THAT IS MY BIGGEST THING. AND ALSO, LUNCH.

I HAVE ALLOWED TIME THROUGHOUT THE DAY, I KNOW THERE ARE A COUPLE COMMENTS FOR THIS LONG COMMITMENT BUT SPEAKERS WILL BE SURE, 15 MINUTES KIND OF THING. SENIORS CAN MAKE THEIR WAY AROUND THE TABLES AND ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OF VENDORS.

SO THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO VISIT THOSE.

>> HAVE YOU GOTTEN A BAG STUFF SPONSORSHIPS OLD YET? KNOW YOU HAVE FOOD, IT COMES IN A BAG. I WAS THINKING THERE MIGHT BE A SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITY IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO, IF THEY CAN SPEAK BUT THEY WANT TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION.

>> OUR LUNCH IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE, IT SHOULD BE ] GIVING US OUR LUNCH. THEY USUALLY BRING PLATTERS OF SANDWICHES. AND THEN THE COOKING MAN WILL BE THERE THIS YEAR AGAIN. HE IS MAKING COOKIES IN THE SHAPE OF A FIRE TRUCK AND A STETHOSCOPE AND JUST ALL KINDS OF THINGS, RESOURCE KINDS OF THINGS. I THINK THAT WILL BE SORT OF FUN. I TRIED TO MAKE THAT FUN. YEAH, THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. I AM WORKING ON THAT. IS JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD THEY LIKE TO DO? YEAH, WHAT WOULD THEY LIKE TO DO . LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE WAS I GOING TO SAY ABOUT THAT? I'VE GOT THE SPEAKERS. YEAH, THE BIGGEST THING HAS BEEN, MOST OF THEM ARE, WHAT WE DID IS HAVE THEM SIGN UP FOR AN RSVP. THAT RSVP COMES TO ME AND RICH SO I CAN RESPOND TO THOSE PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, AND MY REGISTER, WHAT TIME, ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS. I HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF EMAILS FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN RESPONDING AND THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. I AM HOPING THIS IS, IT MAY COME TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT VENUE BECAUSE OF THE SIZE. I THINK PEOPLE REALLY NEED IT AND REALLY WANT IT. I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE GOOD, A GOOD TIME FOR THEM TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND YET SEE WHAT RESOURCES WE HAVE. THERE IS JUST NO WAY WE CAN GET ALL THOSE RESOURCES IN ONE DAVE, BUT I TRIED TO PICK UP SOME OF, YOU KNOW, OUR LOCAL, LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE

DEPARTMENT. >> DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANNOUNCE THE WEBPAGE IS LIVE AND EVEN OFFER SOME SORT OF A TIMELINE ON WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PUT IN? WE COULD START WITH, YOU KNOW, CITY SERVICES AND ANYTHING THAT IS BAKED , EVEN IF

>> WE CAN DO THAT. THERE WILL BE AN AD IN THE PAPER, NOT AN AD, BUT A STORY IN THE PAPER ABOUT OUR SURVEY. THERE WILL BE ANOTHER AD IN THE PAPER ABOUT THE CONFERENCE RIGHT BEFORE. IT IS NICE. THE CURRENT HAS BEEN SO GOOD ABOUT GETTING STORIES IN.

IF YOU GET A STORY IN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.

THEY HAVE BEEN VERY OPEN AND EAGER TO PUT IN SOME STORIES ABOUT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. OKAY. SO, IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, HOW DO I REGISTER, WE WILL GET THAT ON THE WEBSITE.

WE WILL GET THAT OUT IN OUR AD AGAIN AND I AM TRYING TO RESPOND TO EACH ONE THAT DOES SIGN UP. SO THE ONLY REASON WE WANT TO REGISTRATION IS BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS. WE CAN ACCOMMODATE EVERYBODY AND THEN THE LUNCH NUMBERS, AS WELL. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONFERENCE? I WILL BE TALKING TO EACH OF YOU TO HELP ME OUT ON THE DAY OF THE CONFERENCE TO DO

VARIOUS LITTLE JAWS. >> WILL IT BE A FULL DAY FOR US OR WILL WE HAVE FOUR HOURS OR THREE HOURS ?

>> EITHER WAY. WHATEVER YOU CAN VOLUNTEER. WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO, I HAVE SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, IN CHARGE OF THE FOOD SO THEY CAN MAKE SURE THE FOOD IS END ON TIME, THE COFFEE IS ON TIME, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. THERE WILL BE SOME SUBAREAS YOU CAN WORK IN. WHATEVER YOU CAN HELP WITH WOULD BE GREAT.

>> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS GETTING SET UP IN TIME IN THE MORNING AND TAKING DOWN IN THE AFTERNOON. WE ARE DONE AT 3:00 OR AFTER 3:00. THE MAYOR WILL BE THERE. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH HER TODAY. SHE WILL BE THERE IN THE MORNING JUST TO INTRODUCE A LITTLE BIT. SHE WILL BE THERE AND I HAVE ASKED RICH TO BE THE MC FOR THE DAY. HE CAN INTRODUCE OUR SPEAKERS AND BE VISIBLE TO

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EVERYONE. IT'S COMING TOGETHER. IT'S COMING TOGETHER. IT WILL BE OKAY. I THINK OUR SENIORS WILL REALLY ENJOY IT. IT IS THE BEGINNING OF SOMETHING WE CAN BUILD ON AND MAKE BIGGER AND MAYBE BREAK DOWN INTO CERTAIN AREAS OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND HAVE MORE CONFERENCES AND MORE IN-DEPTH INFORMATION FOR SENIORS AND I THINK THEY WILL ENJOY THAT.

>> I KNOW YOU MENTIONED AND I KNOW YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH MARKETING, BUT DO YOU THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME PAPER FORMS, SOMETHING TANGIBLE, TO GIVE TO PEOPLE,

LIKE A BROCHURE? >> YES. IT MAY BE SIMPLE, BUT I THINK WE WILL HAVE INFORMATION . I WANT US TO HAVE A TABLE THERE.

WE COMMAND THE TABLE FOR A FEW HOURS TO JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS TO MAKE OURSELVES VISIBLE, ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

>> WITH THAT IN MIND, IT WOULD BE AWESOME IF WE COULD GET A DEDICATED EMAIL ADDRESS FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE COMMENTS FOR THE COMMISSION. IT MAYBE COULD BE THE SAME ONE THAT GETS CREATED THAT WE PUT ON THE WEBPAGE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ADD AT A LATER TIME AND DECIDE YOU WILL REVIEW THAT, BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE THE CHANNEL TO DIRECT PEOPLE.

>> YES, WE COULD DO THAT. I THINK AN EVALUATION FORM OR INPUT FORM, PEOPLE CAN SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THIS MORE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT, THIS WAS GOOD, THE SANDWICHES WERE NOT SO GOOD, WHATEVER. OKAY. A YEAR LATER, I GET COMMENTS LIKE, YOU DIDN'T HAVE VEGETARIAN SANDWICHES. WE DID, THEY WERE PROBABLY EATEN BY THE TIME YOU GOT THERE. WE WILL DO AN EVALUATION. WE WILL ALSO, WHAT I AM ALSO TRYING TO DO IN REGISTRATION, WHICH ANNA SAID SHE WOULD LIKE TO HELP WITH REGISTRATION BUT WE COULD USE MORE, THAT IS TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE WHO WAS THERE, THEIR ADDRESSES, PHONE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, GET SOME INFORMATION ON THEM. THERE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO PUSH OUT AGAIN AND WE CAN USE THAT. OKAY.

>> AND WE DOUBLE BACK TO TRANSPORTATION?

>> OKAY. >> LEESA, I'VE GOT A MEETING TOMORROW ABOUT TRANSPORTATION. ONCE I GET ALL THE HOURS AND EVERYTHING, WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE REALLY, WHERE WE CAN DEPEND ON THEM, IF I COULD BE ABLE TO PUT THAT ON THE WEBSITE? THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HITTING THEM MORE THAN ONCE . SO THAT IF THEY ARE INTERESTED IN A BUS RIDE, THEY CAN GET ON

END AND FIND ALL THAT OUT. >> YEAH.

>> RATHER THAN JUST TRY TO CALL HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESSED.

>> I LIKE THE IDEA OF THEM BEING ABLE TO HAVE AN ONLINE, EVEN JUST AN EMAIL ADDRESS THAT PEOPLE CAN EMAIL AND SAY, I NEED A RIDE FOR THIS DAY. I KNOW THE PHONE IS GOOD, BUT SOMETIMES, WHEN YOU LEAVE A VOICEMAIL, THE NUMBER MAY FALL OFF . IT IS LESS LIKELY. IT IS ALSO A PAPER TRAIL FOR US, FOR YOU TO HAVE BE BACK WHERE YOU CAN SAY, HEY, WE ARE SEEING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE ZIP CODES PICCADILLY MAYBE NEED TO NOT SERVICE THOSE UNTIL WE GET THAT FIXED OR WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO?

>> OKAY, GOOD IDEA. THANKS. >> OKAY. I HAVE NEW BUSINESS.

STEVE GROSS WAS A MEMBER OF OUR COMMITTEE. HE HAS RESIGNED. THAT IS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO START THINKING AND LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR , YOU KNOW, OR IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OF ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ON THIS COMMISSION, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME INPUT INTO THIS COMMISSION . PUSH THEIR NAMES ONTO ME AND WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT, AS WELL. I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO JUST WISH ALDRICH TAYLOR, I HOPE HE IS DOING BETTER. I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW HE WAS OFF FOR MEDICAL ÚLEAVE SO I WAS INSISTENT HE NO TRY TO MAKE IT TONIGHT. SO I JUST WANT TO SEND THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO RICH. IT IS A BIG LOSS FOR US TODAY. ANY OTHER BUSINESS YOU HAVE? I PROMISED YOU HOPEFULLY TO GET IT DONE BY AN HOUR, WE ARE OVER. ANY OTHER THINGS YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP? IF NOT --

>> I HAVE SOMETHING. THAT IS WHY I BROUGHT MY PHONE OUT. I WENT TO LOOK AT THE EMAIL I SENT YOU. IN THE FUTURE, IT IS TOO LATE

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FOR SIGNED CONTRACTS, BUT I AM CURIOUS IF THE CITY HAS ANY INTEREST IN TRYING TO SECURE A % BLOCK OF ROOMS THAT MAY BE THE CITY GRANTS A SENIOR FREEZE TO SENIORS, CARMEL RESIDENTS FOR FUTURE 55 AND OLDER BILLS. THIS WOULD FALL INTO THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONCEPT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD REALLY, IF IT IS A VALUED PROPOSITION THE CITY WANTS TO ENTERTAIN, I WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE TO THE HOUSING COMMITTEE, AS IT ALIGNS WITH 55 AND OLDER. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD WORK, I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD MANAGER. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A NICE THING TO AT LEAST CONSIDER. THAT WAS MY ONLY NEW BUSINESS FOR THE FUTURE. I ALMOST GOT TO SAY IT SO I APOLOGIZE.

>> YOU ARE SAYINGA BLOCK. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A

NEIGHBORHOOD? >> NO, I AM SORRY. WHEN I SAY A BLOCK, THAT IS FROM MY HOTEL BACKGROUND. YOU GET A BLOCK OF ROSE. I WAS IMAGINING FIVE TO 10 APARTMENTS THAT WERE RESERVED AT A SET PRICE AND THEN THE CITY WAS ABLE TO, MAYBE AS A GRANT OR UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, IT WOULD BE A SET, THE RATES, THE RENTAL RATE WOULD NOT INCREASE. IT WOULD BE A FLAT RATE OVER TIME. THE CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE CONTROL OVER WHO WOULD GO IN END, WHETHER IT WAS A GRANTMAKING THING, SOMETIMES YOU HEAR ABOUT ARTISTS WHO HAVE A GRANT IN A RESIDENCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AURA WAS A LONGTIME PERSON WHO MAY BE WORKED FOR THE CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL. I DON'T EVEN WHEN IDEATE AROUND THIS BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS, EVEN THE STARTING RENTAL RATE IS ALWAYS A GOOD START. IF YOU ARE THERE 15, 20 YEARS, YOU KNOW, IT COULD REALLY SERIOUSLY INCREASE AND BECOME UNAFFORDABLE TO YOU, ESPECIALLY IF YOU MOVED IN AT 55 OR 65 WITH A FIXED INCOME. AND IT CONTINUED TO RISE. YOU COULD NO LONGER AFFORD IT AND WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID, RIGHT? IT IS NOT ALL SITUATIONS, LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES. I WANT TO PRESENT THIS AS A POSSIBILITY. IT MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE. WE MAY NOT HAVE ANY PARTNERS THAT CAN AFFORD TO DO THAT. MAY BE TOO DIFFICULT TO MANAGE. IT COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF THINGS. I THOUGHT AS A BEST PRACTICE, IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THIS COMMISSION TO PRESENT IDEAS, EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT FEASIBLE. BECAUSE IT WOULD BE NICE IN A PERFECT WORLD.

>> YOU CAN ALWAYS PRESENT THE IDEAS. THAT CAN BE TWEAKED HERE IN THERE. WE CAN MAKE IT WORK SOME WAY BUT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS. I THINK THAT IS PART OF OUR ROLE AS A COMMISSION, TO COME UP WITH, EVEN IF IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL NEVER WORK OR IT IS A CRAZY IDEA, YOU NEVER KNOW. YES. YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT MIGHT COME OUT OF THAT. WHY NOT THROW IT OUT THERE AND LET'S LOOK AT IT. YOU KNOW, THROW IT AT THE WALL AND SEE WHAT STICKS. SOME OF IT DOES, SOME OF

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