[Mayor’s Advisory Commission on Senior Living 10-22-25]
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          >> I AM CALLING THE MEETING TO ORDER, MAYOR'S ADVISORY COMMISSION ON SENIOR LIVING. IT IS OCTOBER 22 , 2025. 
          >> ONE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS FOR FILLING IN AND HELPING ME OUT AT THE CONFERENCE THAT WAS HELD OCTOBER 10. IT WAS QUITE THE WEEK FOR ME. I AM SO APPRECIATIVE OF EACH OF YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU DID. WE UNDERSTAND THE CONFERENCE WENT OFF REALLY WELL. I ALSO APPRECIATE ALL THE BEAUTIFUL FLOWERS THAT YOU SENT. I GREATLY APPRECIATED THOSE, SO IT IS REALLY NICE TO KNOW WE HAVE A TEAM OF PEOPLE WORKING REALLY HARD TOGETHER. ESPECIALLY IN MY TIME OF KNEE. 
          >> THE FIRST BUSINESS WAS SORT OF A REVIEW OF THE CONFERENCE AND WHAT I HAVE PREPARED FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING IS SORT OF, WE DID HANDOUT A SURVEY , AN EVALUATION OF THINGS THAT HAD GONE ON THAT DAY. THOSE HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU. YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE. I WAS REALLY PLEASED IN THAT WE HAD A SCALE FROM ONE TO FOUR, FOUR BEING THE HIGHEST. OUR OVERALL SCORE WAS 3.9. I THINK WE COULD REALLY SEE OUR SENIORS NATALIE NEEDED THAT INFORMATION BUT THEY REALLY APPRECIATED THE SUBJECTS THAT WE PRESENTED. THEY GOT A LOT OUT OF IT. IN THIS EVALUATION FORM, YOU CAN SORT OF SEE EACH OF THE PRESENTERS AND WHAT THEIR SCORES WERE. WE ALSO HAD COMMENTS . WE HAD IDEAS FOR FUTURE PROGRAMS. SO, UM, YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE SOME TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND, REALLY, UM, LOOK AT WHAT SOME OF THE FUTURE IDEAS MIGHT BE FOR FUTURE PROGRAMS AND WHAT OUR SENIORS WERE LOOKING AT. I ALSO GAVE THIS FORM TO MONICA AND SHE IS GOING TO LOOK AT THAT AND SORT OF COMPARE THAT TO WHAT OUR SURVEY RESULTS WILL SHOW, AS WELL. DO ANY OF YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH ME TODAY ABOUT THE CONFERENCE AND WHAT YOU OBSERVED? OR ANY COMMENTS YOU GOT FROM PEOPLE YOU CONVERSED WITH THAT THE CONFERENCE ? 
          >> YES. I THOUGHT THE CONFERENCE WENT VERY WELL . I WOULD LIKE TO ESPECIALLY THANK CAITLIN, WHO WAS THERE PROMPTLY AT 8:00 WITH THE FOOD AND OTHER THINGS THAT WERE PREPARED AND THE COOKIES THAT WERE BAKED AND DECORATED. I ALSO WANT TO REALLY THANK LEESA, I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW HARD YOU WORKED THAT DAY, HANDING OUT FOOD, MAKING SURE EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY, MAKING SURE THEY GOT THE RIGHT DIET FOR THEIR PARTICULAR REASON THAT DAY AND ANNA, WHO TOOK CARE OF THE REGISTRATION. SHE AND DAVID, I MEAN, THEY WERE ON THERE FROM THE VERY MINUTE WE STARTED UNTIL IT WAS OVER AND YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB . JOHN, JOHN HAD PEOPLE COME AND HELP SET UP THE CHAIRS AND TABLES AND HELP PUT THEM AWAY AFTER IT WAS OVER. SO, OVERALL, I THOUGHT THAT CAROL DID AN AMAZING, MAGNIFICENT JOB. IT ALL WENT WELL. I COULD NOT BELIEVE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE. ANNA, ESPECIALLY, HELD THIS ONE LADY WHO HAD A LITTLE PROBLEM. I KNOW SHE WAS GOING TO CARRY IT FORWARD THE NEXT DAY AND GO VISIT WITH HER. IT COULD NOT TURN OUT TO BE BETTER, EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE ABSENT. 
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          >> I DID, THOSE ARE ALL THE COMMENTS I HAD HEARD FROM VARIOUS PEOPLE. AND I HAVE TO BE, I MEAN, DAVE SANDERS WAS PHENOMENAL . HE HELPED , HE JUMPED IN AND HELPED, HE HAD BEEN HELPING WITH THE REGISTRATION PROCESS, AS WELL. 
          NOT ONLY DID HE BAKE THOSE BEAUTIFUL COOKIES, MY ONLY REQUEST WAS THAT EVERYONE SAVE ME ONE COOKIE OF EACH KIND SO I COULD SEE WHAT HE HAD DONE. HE DID A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH THOSE COOKIES. IT HAS SORT OF BECOME OUR LITTLE MARK OF OUR CONFERENCE ARE HIS COOKIES. HE HAS DONE A GREAT, GREAT JOB. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE HIM. IT WAS QUITE HECTIC FOR THAT WEEK BEFORE THE CONFERENCE CAME ON , JUST PULLING EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND MAKING SURE IT WAS TAKING CARE OF. UP ANY OTHER COMMENTS? 
          >> I ALSO FORGOT TO MENTION RICH , HE MCED THAT DAY. HE DID A GREAT JOB. I JUST THINK THE DAY WENT VERY WELL. 
          >> WE INCREASED OUR ATTENDANCE FROM ABOUT 55 LAST YEAR TO 150 THIS YEAR, WHICH TELLS US A LOT. I HAD TO SHUT OFF THE REGISTRATIONS PROBABLY TWO DAYS BEFORE THE CONFERENCE OCCURRED BECAUSE I WAS GETTING SO MANY RESPONSES. WE ONLY HAD SO MANY SEATS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE PROBABLY A FEW THAT DIDN'T GET TO COME THAT DAY. SO THAT REALLY TELLS ME THAT OUR SENIORS ARE EAGER AND WILLING AND HUNGRY FOR THAT INFORMATION. 
          >> YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME OPPORTUNITY WITH OUR SPONSORS WHO HAVE LARGE SPACE. 
          HAVE LARGE SPACES. THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO FACILITATE SOME OF YOUR SMALLER DO I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT DOING THIS AGAIN, THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM AND THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT, WHICH WOULD BE HELPFUL , IF THEY WERE 
          PROVIDING MEALS AND THINGS. >> YOU KNOW, CARDON STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND SAID THEY WANTED TO HELP THIS YEAR. THEY DONATED $9000 AND THEY WANTED TO BE A SPONSOR IN THE FUTURE IN EVENTS WE HAVE. THEY SORT OF SET THE GROUNDWORK FOR SOME OF THAT. 
          I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE BUDGET ALL COMPLETED BUT I WILL SAY WITH THE SPONSORSHIPS OF CARDON AND BHI, I HAD AN ATTORNEY GIVE US SOME MONEY, WE HAD OVERCOME ALMOST $5000 IN SPONSORSHIP. OUR EXPENSES FOR THAT, ALSO, JIMMY JOHNSON DONATED HALF OF THE SANDWICHES. SO, WITH THEIR DONATION AND OUR SPONSORSHIPS, 
          WE HAD OVER $5000 -- >> HERE IS A CHECK I FORGOT TO 
          GIVE YOU. >> OUR EXPENSES, WE MADE SOME MONEY OFF OF THE CONFERENCE. WE MADE ABOUT $4000 THAT WE CAN PUT 
          INTO OUR FUND FOR FUTURE . >> CAROL, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW I HAVE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCES , MY FAMILY WAS INVOLVED IN SOMETHING AND AS I GREW UP, THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WERE SIMILAR THAT I WAS FAMILIAR WITH, I OBSERVED AT OUR CONFERENCE . IT IS WORD-OF-MOUTH. IT'S A GROUNDSWELL THAT REALLY WILL LET OUR COMMUNITY KNOW GENERALLY AND IT IS INTERGENERATIONAL, OF WHAT WE TALK ABOUT AND WHAT WE ACHIEVE, BUT IT IS ALREADY HERE. AND THIS IS AN EXCELLENT START. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE RESPONSE WE GOT FROM THIS DAY OF INFORMATION TO HOPEFULLY SEE THAT GROW WILL HELP US AS A GROUP. THANK YOU. 
          >> AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE, I THINK THIS IS AN INDICATION THAT THIS COMMISSION, THIS ADMINISTRATION, DOES CARE FOR OUR SENIOR POPULATION, REGARDLESS OF SOME OF THE GRUMBLINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON THE PAST FEW WEEKS. WHICH WE, AS A COMMISSION, HAVE NO INPUT INTO THOSE ISSUES, BUT WE, AS A COMMISSION HERE, ARE WORKING HARD TO PRESENT PROGRAMS AND 
          OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR SENIORS. >> AND ESPECIALLY THE SOCIAL SERVICES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. CARMEL , AS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE THOSE. BEING ABLE TO READ OR DIRECT THOSE PEOPLE TO HAMILTON COUNTY RESOURCES IS ONE OF THE MOST 
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VALUABLE THINGS WE ACCOMPLISHED AS A COMMISSION THERE. AND I THINK IT WAS ACROSS ALL ECONOMIC LEVELS THAT WE HAD SOMETHING FOR SOMEONE. I THINK THAT TRANSIT THAT PARADIGM THAT CARMEL IS JUST FOR CERTAIN KINDS OF PEOPLE. YOU ASKED ABOUT FEEDBACK. TWO THINGS. ONE, HERE IS THE CHECK FROM HAMILTON COUNTY TRANSIT. I MEANT TO GIVE THAT TO YOU EARLIER, APOLOGIES. 
          SECOND OF ALL, HAD FEEDBACK FROM FOUR DIFFERENT EXHIBITORS. THEY WERE THERE BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THEY WERE BLOWN AWAY BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE CAME AND TALKED TO THEM AND GENUINELY WANTED TO ENGAGE. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I SECOND WHAT JOHN SAID. FACE TO FACE MARKETING STILL WORKS, ESPECIALLY WE HAVE THE RIGHT AUDIENCE AND THE RIGHT VENDORS TOGETHER ANDTHEY HAVE THE NEED AND THE SOLUTION. 
          >> I WILL SAY OUR VENDORS, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT. WE ONLY HAD SO MANY TABLES AND WE ONLY HAD SO MANY SPACES. WE REALLY JUST TOUCHED THE SURFACE WITH OUR VENDORS. THERE ARE SO MANY MORE ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WANT TO CONTRIBUTE. SO OUR GOAL, I THINK, IS TO CONTINUE THIS, NOT ONLY TO CONTINUE, BUT TO EXPAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE DOING. 
          THERE ARE SO MANY MORE ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE. 
          >> AND THE COMMUNICATIONS CAN PUT TOGETHE A TEMPLATE FOR A VENDOR REGISTRATION FORM. THERE ARE SOME AROUND THAT. I CAN GET THAT TOGETHER. I KNOW WE HAVE ANOTHER PRIORITY MY COMMITTEE WORKED ON SO WE WILL FINISH THAT BEFORE WE GET GOING. A LOT OF US ARE COMING TO THE END OF THE YEAR AND THERE COULD BE SOME CHANGES, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TIE OFF SUCCESSFULLY AND TEE 
          OFF THE NEXT. >> REGISTRATION WAS A BIG PROBLEM FOR US THIS YEAR. SO WE REALLY WANT TO HONE IN ON THAT FOR NEXT YEAR AND MAKE IT MUCH EASIER. I DO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION FROM EVERYBODY THAT DID REGISTER. I GOT YOUR EMAIL, ADDRESS, PHONE NUMBER AND MANY OF THEM, YOU KNOW, SAID, PLEASE CONTACT US WHEN YOU HAVE THE NEXT EVENT. 
          >> I KNOW YOU AND I PARTNERED EARLIER THIS YEAR ON SOME SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS. THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD PLACE TO STEP BACK AND LOOK. THERE WERE SOME FREE SOLUTIONS, OR EVEN LOW DOLLAR SUBSCRIPTIONS THAT I STILL , I THINK, HAVE NOTES ON AND I CAN 
          RESUBMIT. >> THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS. THANKS AGAIN TO EVERYONE AND ALL THEIR HARD WORK. I AM SO PLEASED IT WAS SUCCESSFUL. I'M EXCITED WE CAN GO FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS ANYONE WAS TO MAKE ABOUT THE 
          CONFERENCE? >> UM, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS NEW BUSINESS, WHICH WE HAVE MONICA HERE AGAIN TONIGHT TO TALK TO US ABOUT SOME OF OUR PRELIMINARY RESULTS OF THE SURVEY AND WHERE WE SHOULD GO FROM HERE. 
          >> I THINK THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE RECORDED, SO YOU WILL PROBABLY NEED TO, EITHER ONE IS PROBABLY GOOD, AS LONG AS 
          YOU ARE ON A MICROPHONE. >> HELLO? ALL RIGHT. WELL, I BROUGHT, BASICALLY, WHAT I BROUGHT TODAY IS A COPY OF THE SURVEY THAT WE SENT OUT AND NEXT TO EVERY QUESTION, BASICALLY, FREQUENCY DISTRIBUTIONS. SO EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED, WHATEVER ANSWER . SO MOST OF THEM ARE THOSE, THE NUMBERS THEMSELVES ARE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT ANSWERED THAT AND THE NEXT TO IT IN PARENTHESES IS THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO ANSWERED THAT WAY. 
          I TRIED TO MAKE IT AS EASY TO READ AS POSSIBLE. WE WILL DO AN OFFICIAL REPORT WHEN WE ARE OFFICIALLY DONE BUT I FELT THIS WAY WAS EASY TO GO THROUGH THE SURVEY TO KIND OF GET A BIRDS EYE VIEW OF EVERYTHING. SO LOOK THROUGH THAT. THE SAMPLE IS DIFFERENT. DEMOGRAPHICALLY, FROM THE PILOT THAT WE DID, IT IS KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT A LITTLE BIT TO SEE HOW THEY DIFFERED. OF NOTE, THE NUMBER OF MEN AND WOMEN IS MORE EQUAL. FOR THE ORIGINAL PILOT DATA, THERE WAS A LARGER CHUNK OF WOMEN. THERE WERE MORE WOMEN AT THE CONFERENCE LAST YEAR, WHICH MAKES SENSE. WOMEN TEND TO GO TO THAT STUFF A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN MEN. WE HAD REALLY CLOSE TO A 50-50 SPLIT, CONSIDERING THERE ARE MORE OLDER WOMEN THEN THERE ARE OLDER MEN, IN GENERAL, SO I LOVE TO SEE THAT. THERE ARE DEFINITELY DIFFERENT RATINGS. SO I JUST STARTED TO LOOK AT THIS, RIGHT? SO, THE COMMUNITY RATINGS 
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FOR THE INITIAL PILOT DATA, 80% OF PEOPLE SAID, UM, THE COMMUNITY RATING OF , AS A WHOLE, WAS REALLY GOOD OR EXCELLENT. AND WE LOOK AT THE SURVEY WE SENT OUT, LET ME JUST DO THE CALCULATION. 62%. SO THERE IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE DIFFERENT ANSWERS. I THINK THIS KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS WHY IT WAS GOOD TO DO THIS KIND OF A DIFFERENT WAY OF GETTING IT OUT TO PEOPLE RATHER THAN PEOPLE THAT JUST COME TO A CONFERENCE. 
          THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF, YOU CAN LOOK IN THERE, AND ALSO, IF YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED, I OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE RESULTS FROM THE PILOT, AS WELL. UP YOU CAN JUST LOOK AND SEE PERCENTAGES. MY QUESTION TO YOU GUYS IS, WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WOULD BE HELPFUL? SO, FOR EXAMPLE, I WAS SAYING EARLIER TO CAROL, IF YOU ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN HOW WOMEN, IN PARTICULAR, FEEL ABOUT A CERTAIN THING, OR MEN, OR, IF YOU ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN, WE ARE INTERESTED, INCOME WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE. THERE WAS A GOOD CHUNK OF PEOPLE WHO, BASED ON THAT SCALE MAKE 100,000 OR MORE A YEAR. THOSE PEOPLE WHO DON'T, MAYBE THAT PLACE WHERE IT WOULD BE HARDER TO AGE IN A PLACE IN CARMEL, SO I CAN LOOK AT ALL THOSE ANSWERS THERE JUST FOR THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, OR I CAN LOOK AT THAT JUST FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE WELL-OFF. JUST BE THINKING ABOUT , OTHER THAN THE POPULATION, AS A WHOLE, IF THERE ANY GROUPS OF PEOPLE YOU ARE PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN, KNOWING THEIR RESPONSES TO THINGS, WE CAN DO THAT. BUT, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE DOING A REPORT OF EVERY COMBINATION OF THOSE THINGS IS IMPOSSIBLE, SO REALLY JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE OUT OF THIS AND WE ARE HAPPY TO 
          DO THAT. >> MONICA, SO, NEXT, I KNOW YOU DID THIS REALLY QUICKLY FOR US BECAUSE WE JUST TALKED TO YEAR. 
          >> WE GOT YOU, IT'S GOOD. >> SO THE NEXT COUPLE MEETINGS ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT ON THE HEELS OF THE HOLIDAYS, SO WE PROBABLY WON'T HAVE A REGULAR PUBLIC MEETING FOR THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, BUT COULD YOU MEET WITH US IN A WORKING KIND OF GROUP, WHERE YOU CAN GO THROUGH THIS WITH EACH ONE OF OUR COMMITTEE CHAIRS. WE COULD REALLY HONE IN ON THIS INFORMATION YOU GIVE US TONIGHT AND THEN DO A WORKING SESSION WHERE WE SAY, OKAY, HERE IS WHAT WE FOUND OUT. HERE IS WHAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT 
          IN YOUR COMMITTEE. >> I ACTUALLY THINK THAT IS A LOVELY SUGGESTION. I CAN BRING MY LAPTOP. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, I CAN LITERALLY DO IT RIGHT THERE. EVEN IF WE ARE DOING THE KINDS OF ANALYSES YOU WOULD JUST THINK I CAN DO THAT IN TWO SECONDS AND GIVE YOU THE ANSWER. AND THEN FROM THERE, ONCE WE DO SOME OF THAT IN YOU GUYS TELL ME SOME MORE OF YOUR QUESTIONS, FROM THERE, WE CAN MAKE A MORE OFFICIAL REPORT. 
          YEAH, THAT WOULD BE SO MUCH BECAUSE YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT TO DO AND I CAN DO IT RIGHT THERE. 
          >> WILL YOU BE ABLE TO GIVE US SOME IDEAS OF WHAT OUR COMMITTEES MY FOCUS ON? WE COULD SAY, OUR COMMUNICATIONS COMMITTEE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS PORTION OR THAT 
          PORTION. >> I CAN TELL YOU, FROM WHAT I LOOKED AT SO FAR AND THE RESULTS FROM THE PILOT, WHAT I THINK IS INTERESTING IS THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT DID NOT SHARE A CATEGORY WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME. YOU ASK PEOPLE, WATER RESOURCES FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE LOW FUNDS? WHAT ARE RESOURCES FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION? THERE IS SUCH A CHUNK OF PEOPLE THAT SAY THEY ARE NOT SURE FOR SO MANY QUESTIONS. AND IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE DO HAVE TRANSPORTATION. THEY DO HAVE FUNDS. BUT THE IDEA OF AGING IN PLACE AND STAYING IN CARMEL IS YOU MIGHT SPEND DOWN I MIGHT NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE THINGS. OR, A LOT OF PEOPLE ANSWERING THE SURVEYS ARE HEALTHIER BUT MIGHT BECOME LESS HEALTHY AND THEN YOU DO NEED ACCESS TO THOSE THINGS. I THINK THOSE NOT SURE ANSWERS ARE REALLY TELLING, AT LEAST FOR ME. 
          IN ANY OF THE INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEES, JUST LOOK AT THE RESPONSES THAT ARE RELEVANT TO YOUR COMMITTEE AND JUST NOTE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT SAY THEY ARE NOT SURE ABOUT THOSE THINGS. 
          >> YOU SAID YOU COULD SLICE THIS BASED ON THE AGE? 
          >> YEAH. >> I THINK THE NOT SURE ANSWER, THERE IS AN AGE RANGE FOR THAT, IT COULD HELP US UNDERSTAND DIGITALLY NATIVE VERSUS NOT DIGITALLY NATIVE. THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION. EVEN JUST GOING TO A COMPUTER , ONLINE. 
          >> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THERE IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF THERE ABOUT 
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EASE OF TECHNOLOGY, VARIOUS TECHNOLOGIES, THAT IS THERE. I WILL SAY OUT OF MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ANSWERED, IT WAS LIKE 95% OF PEOPLE HAVE SMART PHONES, THAT IS GOOD TO NOTE. 
          >> BUT CAN THEY USE THEM? >> WELL, IF YOU LOOK, THERE IS A GOOD CHUNK THAT I DON'T THINK LEARNING WAS ONE BUT ONE OF THE BARRIERS IS, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE COMPLICATED. SO, DEFINITELY, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO. AND THEN, YEAH, YOU CAN SLICE AND DICE IT BY AGE, I THINK IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE THAT MAYBE SOME OF THE YOUNGER FOLKS DON'T KNOW ABOUT RESOURCES BECAUSE THEY'VE NEVER HAD TO EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. WHY WOULD I BE WORRIED ABOUT TRANSPORTATION? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME OF THAT. YEAH, AS YOU ENTER INTO THE CATEGORY OF AGING, IT IS GOOD TO BE AWARE OF THOSE RESOURCES BEFORE YOU NEED THEM. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING. OR IT COULD BE OLDER , OLDER ADULTS WHO JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE RESOURCES BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACCESS THEM AND MAYBE THEY ARE TECHNOLOGY-BASED. WE CAN LOOK AT AGES, WE CAN, YOU KNOW , WHATEVER . WE CAN LOOK AT ZIP CODE. MAY BE PEOPLE IN CERTAIN ZIP CODES NO MORE THAN PEOPLE ON THE PERIPHERY. I DON'T KNOW. 
          THAT IS POSSIBLE, AS WELL. >> I WAS CHECKING TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS A QUESTION BEFORE I ASKED FOR? 
          >> DO WE HASKETT PEOPLE OWN THEIR HOME OR RENTED? 
          >> YES. 95% SURE, IT SOUNDS FAMILIAR. YEAH, LET'S SEE. THIS IS THE CURRENT ONE. THIS IS WHAT I AM SAYING, IN A WORKING MEETING, I CAN JUST DO THIS. 89% OF PEOPLE WHO ANSWERED THE SURVEY ON THEIR HOME . 9% OF PEOPLE RENT AND THEN 2% OF PEOPLE DON'T OWN OR RENT BUT LIVE WITH AN ADULT, I PRESUME A 
          CHILD OR ROOMMATE. >> SO, WE'VE HAD A RECENT ARTICLE IN THE PAPER ABOUT THE SURVEY. ARE YOU GOING TO DO A PUBLIC REPORT THAT WE CAN DISTRIBUTE TO THE GENERAL 
          PUBLIC? >> I KIND OF ASSUMED WE COULD DO THAT, FOR SURE. I THINK DOING SOMETHING FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS REALLY NICE AND PRETTY. IT WILL TAKE TIME TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE. AGAIN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS ACTUALLY ONE IN THERE. WHAT DOES IT REALLY MEAN? I THINK, THINKING ABOUT, WHAT I THINK WOULD MAKE SENSE IS FOR US TO TALK TO YOU GUYS. WE RUN ALL THE ANALYSES WE WANT AND THEN WE CAN TELL A STORY WITH THAT, RIGHT? WE CAN USE IT TO RIGHTLY JUSTIFY THINGS, YOU KNOW, 90% OF PEOPLE ARE UNSURE ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION RESOURCES. AS SUCH, OUR TRANSPORTATION WILL WILL DO THIS. 
          >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CORRELATION TO WHAT WE ARE DOING. THEY KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING REALLY CORRESPONDS WITH -- 
          >> EVIDENCE-BASED , RIGHT? IT IS NOT FOR GIGGLES, IT'S WHAT YOU 
          GUYS TOLD US YOU WANT IT. >> I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER SURVEYS IN THE AREA WE MIGHT LOOK AT TO SAY, OKAY, BUT THE MAYOR DID THIS SURVEY RIGHT AFTER HE TOOK OFFICE AND THIS IS 
          WHY OURS IS DIFFERENT. >> FOR SURE. I DO HAVE PLANS, I DIDN'T GET TO DO IT TODAY, BUT I KIND OF WANT TO PULL THE DATA ON WHAT DEMOGRAPHICALLY CARMEL DOES LOOK LIKE SO I CAN COMPARE IT. THIS IS REGISTERED VOTERS, SO IT WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN EVERYONE BUT JUST TO SEE HOW WE DO COMPARE TO THE POPULATION TO AS A WHOLE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW, TOO. 
          >> I AM CURIOUS, THE DATA YOU'RE GOING TO PULL, IS IT MORE RECENT THAN 2023, WHICH IS SOMETHING I FOUND ONLINE TODAY? 
          >> I WOULD HOPE I CAN FIND IT MORE RECENT THAN THAT BUT I AM ACTUALLY NOT SURE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MOST RECENT DATA I CAN 
          ACCESS. >> THE REASON I ASKED THAT, THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE MOVING TO CARMEL, 2023 MAY ACTUALLY BE 
          OUTDATED. >> AND MOVING OUT OF CARMEL. 
          THERE ARE SOME MOVING OUT AND GOING TO WESTFIELD OR SOME OTHER 
          AREA. SO WE NEED SOME RECENT -- >> YEAH, OBVIOUSLY, CENSUS DATA IS GREAT FOR THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE MOST RECENT CENSUS WAS GONE MAYBE IT WAS 2023. I WILL LOOK AND SEE WHAT ELSE IS OUT 
          THERE. >> DO YOU ALSO FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE, I KNOW AARP SAYS WE COULD HAVE SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS. 
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SOME BRAINSTORMING SESSIONS. DO YOU SEE THAT AS NECESSARY? 
          >> I THINK, NOW THAT THE SURVEY IS OUT OF THE WAY, IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO DO THAT. THAN YOU CAN SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND FROM THERE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR YOU GUYS. I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT IS HARD FOR PEOPLE TO WRAP THEIR MINDS AROUND, WHICH I TOTALLY, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOU WILL SEE A SURVEY. I KEEP STICKING TO THE SAME THING BECAUSE MY BRAIN IS FRIED. 90% OF PEOPLE ARE UNSURE ABOUT RESOURCE. AND THEN SOMEBODY WILL STAND UP AND SAY, I KNOW ALL ABOUT THE RESOURCES. 
          SO 90% OF PEOPLE DON'T SO YOU ARE PART OF THE 10% THAT DO. IT IS REALLY HARD FOR PEOPLE TO USE ANECDOTAL AND EVIDENCE REALLY EASILY. OF COURSE IT DOESN'T APPLY TO YOU, YOU ARE IN THE SMALL PERCENTAGE THAT DOESN'T BELONG TO THAT COLLECTIVE. I DO THINK IT IS NICE TO SHOW PEOPLE DATA TO GIVE EVIDENCE AS TO WHY, YES, THAT IS HOW YOU FEEL AND THAT IS NOT INVALID AT ALL, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE FEEL OTHERWISE. I THINK IT IS GOOD TO HAVE THAT IN A PUBLIC FORUM. I DON'T WANT TO SAY ARMED BUT YOU ARE ARMED WITH DATA TO SAY THIS IS WHY WE ARE THINKING THIS LINE OF THINKING AND NOW TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK BASED OFF OF THAT, RIGHT? I THINK IT GIVES IT MORE VALIDITY. 
          >> I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO TIE INTO EDUCATIONAL OFFERINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO START IN THE FUTURE. SO HAVE A FOCUSED ERROR -- AREA THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN AN EDUCATIONAL SETTING. ONE OF OUR COMMENTS IN OUR EVALUATIONS WAS THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS AND EXPRESS THEMSELVES. THEN YOU COULD HAVE AN OPEN FORUM FOCUSED ON ONE AREA SO IT IS NOT JUST AN OPEN COMPLAINT SESSION. I WAS CAN USE ANOTHER TERM BUT I USED COMPLAINT INSTEAD. 
          >> YOU HAVE TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLAIN. THAT IS PART OF IT. YOU HAVE TO LET THEM AIR GRIEVANCES AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT . 
          >> AND I THINK BEING EVIDENCE-BASED IS HUGE BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE COME TO THE TABLE AND IT IS MORE PERCEPTIONS AND THEY ARE FREE TO SHARE THEIR PERCEPTIONS THAT MAY NOT BE 
          ACCURATE. >> YOU KNOW, IT'S EVERYONE'S PERCEPTIONS. IT'S NOT THAT THE PERCEPTION IS WRONG BUT IT MAY DIFFER FROM THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN YOUR FEELINGS ARE INVALID, IT JUST MEANS THIS ONE MIGHT NOT GO YOUR WAY BECAUSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DON'T AGREE WITH YOU ON 
          WHATEVER IT IS. >> QUICK QUESTION. TELL ME, I APOLOGIZE, I HAVE BEEN SICK AND HAVE MEMORY FALL, I SEEM TO RECALL WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO RESEND THE SURVEY BACK OUT TO PEOPLE WHO HAD NOT RESPONDED . I SEE IN OUR NOTES IT IS PRELIMINARY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND PICKED UP AT WHAT TIME ARE WE PLANNING TO CLOSE THE SURVEY? IS IT BASED ON 
          A NUMBER? >> THAT IS A QUESTION. I ALSO THINK THAT IS A QUESTION THAT IN AN IDEAL WORLD WE WOULD LIKE A HIGHER RESPONSE RATE. 6% SOUNDS GREAT, IT IS REALLY PRETTY COMMON IN THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS. I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE A LITTLE HIGHER, BUT SENDING THEM OUT IS ANOTHER ROUND, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH IT WAS BUT IT WAS NOT INEXPENSIVE TO SEND OUT THE SURVEYS. ALSO, I WILL TALK TO REPORT BACK. THAT IS A DECISION FOR YOU, TOO. 
          >> I SPOKE TO HIM BRIEFLY. HE SAID WE COULD PROBABLY GO WITH WHAT WE HAD. I ALSO SPOKE TO THE MAYOR. SHE SAID LET'S JUST CUT IT AND GET THE RESULTS. SHE IS VERY WILLING. 
          >> I WASN'T SURE. >> I THINK WITH THEM BOTH BEING IN AGREEMENT, I FELT THE SAME WAY. YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN HARD FOR THIS COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE'VE SORT OF TRIED TO MAKE OUR WAY AND WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO WAITING FOR RESULTS? IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US, I THINK, FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO SEE WE ARE DOING SOMETHING, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AND THE COMMITTEES ARE STARTING TO WORK MAIL AND WE CAN SEE THAT, I THINK, BUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO SEE THIS IS COMING TOGETHER AND WE HAVE SAID, OKAY, WE'VE GOT ENOUGH DATA, LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND GET SOME OBJECTIVES GOING. I THINK WE WILL BE OKAY WITH WHAT WE HAVE. 
          >> LOOKING AT KIND OF THE DISTRIBUTION, IT LOOKS PRETTY 
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SIMILAR TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT CARMEL IS DEMOGRAPHICALLY. WE FIND IT IS A LITTLE OFF, WE CAN PLACE MORE EVER SINCE -- EMPHASIS, LET'S SAY THE SURVEY WAS 30% OF MEN WAS 40% OF WOMEN AND WE FIND THAT IS NOT WHAT THE DISTRIBUTION IS. IT IS CLOSER TO 50-50. THAT WOULD PUT MORE WEIGHT ON WHAT THE MEN DO SAY BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDERREPRESENTED. YOU CAN THING THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT? I THINK, IN GENERAL, IT 
          LOOKS PRETTY GOOD. >> AND I THINK WE COULD 
          FINE-TUNE EACH AREA. >> AND I THINK BEING ABLE TO, IF WE HAVE THIS WORKING SESSION WHERE WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT THINGS, THE BREAKDOWN, BASED OFF OF INCOME OR WHATEVER TESTED 
          >> THERE ARE AREAS WHERE AS A COMMITTEE WE CAN PUT TO BED , WE'VE GOT THAT RESOLVED, WE'VE GOT THAT ISSUE SORT OF RESOLVED OR TAKING CARE OF. LET'S MOVE ON TO THIS ONE OR THAT ONE AND WE WILL REEVALUATE, I WOULD SAY, IN A YEAR OR TWO, THREE YEARS AND SEE WHERE WE ARE. SO WHAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO THEN IS MAYBE SET UP SOME WORKING SESSIONS THAT YOU MIGHT BE AVAILABLE AND WE COULD BE AVAILABLE IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS TO FLESH THIS 
          OUT A LITTLE MORE. >> IF YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING THROUGH THAT AND YOU THINK OF ANYTHING, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO EMAIL ME. I WILL STASH IT IN THE FOLDER OF THINGS 
          TO DISCUSS NEXT TIME . >> OKAY. GREAT. 
          >> QUESTIONS ON THAT OR CONCERNS? JOHN, YOU GOT ONE. 
          >> I WAS LOOKING AT THE SURVEY AND WANTING A SMALLER SIZE HOME, A MAJOR FACTOR WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT A SMALLER HOME. 
          WELL, IN THE LAST WEEK OR TWO, IN JUST DRIVING AROUND, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RANCH STYLE HOMES IN THIS COMMUNITY. I THINK WE CONTINUE TO TALK OURSELVES INTO THE FACT EVERYBODY LIVES IN A TWO-STORY HOME. IT'S NOT REALLY TRUE. I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW WHAT REALLY THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE, WHAT THEY REALLY ARE. OR, WHEN THEY DO COME AVAILABLE, THAT THE REALTORS ARE AWARE THAT SOME PEOPLE WANT A SMALLER HOME. 
          >> YEAH, I HEAR THAT A LOT, RIGHT? I JUST SAID, I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE. I THINK ABOUT MY PARENTS. THEY ALWAYS SAID THEY WANTED A SMALLER HOME. WHEN IT CAME TIME TO MOVE OUT OF THE FAMILY HOME, YEAH, I WANT A SMALL HOME BUT THIS IS STILL MY FAMILY HOME. YOU WERE SAYING ONE THING AND THINKING ANOTHER. I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OF THE BATTLE. THIS IS YOUR HOME. THIS IS WHERE YOU RAISE YOUR KIDS OR WHATEVER. LOGICALLY, I WANT TO BE IN A RANCH. I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GO UP AND DOWN THE STAIRS. IT WILL BE HARDER, RIGHT? I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY A LOT OF IT, TOO. 
          JUST TRYING TO MARRY EXPECTATIONS . 
          >> WE CONTINUE TO TELL OUR SELF WE WILL GO TO WESTVIEW BUT THERE 
          ARE HOMES AVAILABLE IN CARMEL. >> I THINK OLDER PEOPLE, MORE THAN SMALLER, I THINK THEIR CONCERN, BEING IN REAL ESTATE, 
          IS THE ACCESSIBILITY. >> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH . IF YOU HAVE A SPRAWLING RANCH, YOU DON'T CARE, IT'S BIG, BUT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN NAVIGATE YOUR HOUSE. YEAH, FOR 
          SURE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS KEEPS 
          US MOVING . >> YOU KNOW, THE SURVEYS ARE STILL OPEN AND PEOPLE DO STILL HAVE THEM AT HOME. THEY CAN STILL SEND THEM IN. MAYBE SINCE THE LAST TIME I WALKED THREE MORE PEOPLE, THEY ARE STILL TRICKLING IN. 
          >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE CONFERENCE AT ALL, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE GOTTEN THOSE, IT WAS? OKAY. 
          >> THE PROBLEM IS, ONCE THEY GOT THEM AND DIDN'T IMMEDIATELY DO THEM THEY WENT IN THE TRASH. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS BUT THAT IS HOW IT WORKS AT MY HOUSE. I DON'T NEED IT, IT IS GONE SO I DON'T END UP WITH A PILE OF PAPER. THAT COULD BE AN 
          ISSUE. >> AGAIN, WE JUST APPRECIATE ALL 
          THE WORK. >> YEAH, FOR SURE. 
          >> NOW WE WANT TO DO MORE WORK WITH THIS IN THE FUTURE. IT IS GOOD TO LET EVERYONE KNOW IT IS STILL MOVING ALONG AND WE ARE STILL MAKING PROGRESS. IT IS GOING TO BE THE BASIS FOR A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
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          >> YEAH, FOR SURE. >> RIGHT. I THINK WE ARE READY FOR THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. 
          >> OKAY, WELL, WHEN RICH ASKED ME TO LOOK AT THIS FUNCTION, I GOT WITH CAROL AND SHE AND I GOT TOGETHER WE HAVE MANY, MANY MEETINGS WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. AFTER ALL OF THESE MEETINGS, WE HAVE KIND OF COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT OUR COMPANY OF CHOICE IS THE HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESSED. WE ARE STILL WORKING AT WORKING ON MEETINGS FOR MORE WAYS TO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES WITH THIS PARTICULAR TRANSIT, LOOKING AT THE SURVEY. MOST PEOPLE SAY NO, WE DON'T NEED IT, WE TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES. WE HAD OUR CONFERENCE LAST WEEK, WE HAD ONE OF THE HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESSED BUSES. MANY PEOPLE CAME DOWN TO LOOK AT IT JUST TO SEE WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT. SO, UM, WE HAVE KIND OF COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. 
          WE STILL HAVE A FEW MORE, AS I SAY, A FEW MORE MEETINGS TO GO. 
          IT'S GOING, THE REASON WE KIND OF FOCUSED ON HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESSED IS THAT IT IS FAIRLY EASY TO CALL THEM AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT AND HAVE THEM COME HELP YOU. WHEREAS UBER AND OTHER PLACES DO IT, BUT THEY ARE EXPENSIVE. LIKE I SAY, MAYBE WE ARE A FEW DAYS OUT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL PROBABLY WANT TO ENDORSE USING THE HAMILTON COUNTY EXPRESSED FOR THE SENIORS 
          IN THIS AREA. >> JOHN, YOU ARE LEAVING US SOON TO GO TO FLORIDA. WE ARE GOING TO MISS YOU. 
          >> I AM ONLY A PHONE CALL AWAY. 
          >> I AM WAITING FOR AN INVITATION FOR ALL OF US TO GO DOWN. IT WILL BE BELOW ZERO HERE. I THINK WE WILL HAVE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS HERE REALLY, REALLY SOON. I THINK EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE REAL HAPPY WITH SOME OF THE ADDITIONS WE ARE MAKING TO OUR TRANSPORTATION ASSISTANCE. THAT IS ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES WE JUST HAVE TO MONITOR AND PUT JOHN ON ANOTHER 
          COMMITTEE. >> OKAY. I DIDN'T ASK ANYONE FOR ANY OTHER COMMITTEE REPORTS, BUT DO ANY OF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO BRING UP AT THIS TIME? 
          >>> ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT MEETING, I HAVE LOOKED AT NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER CALENDARS. THE NEXT SCHEDULED PUBLIC MEETING WOULD BE THE NIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING AND ON CHRISTMAS EVE. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT TO SACRIFICE THE TIME WITH OUR FAMILIES TO COME TO THIS MEETING, BUT WOULD EACH OF YOU MAYBE GIVE ME SOME IDEAS ON WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE A WORKING MEETING, WHERE WE COULD FOLLOW UP ON OUR SURVEY OR INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEE MEETINGS OR WHATEVER. MAYBE YOU WANT TO LOOK AT YOUR CALENDARS AND THEN LET ME KNOW. WE CAN JUST NOT PUBLISH THIS MEETING, BUT COMMUNICATE AMONGST OURSELVES FOR THE NEXT TWO MONTHS AND GO FROM THERE. OKAY? DOES THAT SOUND AGREEABLE? OKAY, IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS WE WANT TO BRING UP? 
          >> QUICK QUESTION. I KNOW MOST OF US ARE TERMED AND OUR TERMS ARE ENDING AT THE END OF THE YEAR. AND WE STARTED A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PEOPLE TO BE CONSIDERED AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF? I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT OFF-LINE OR IF WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT PUBLICLY. 
          >> I DO WANT TO TALK WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE MEMBERS WE MADE INITIALLY ON THIS COMMISSION AND GET THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I WOULD LIKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OF THOSE WHO YOU MIGHT CONSIDER OR HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT FOR BEING ON THIS COMMITTEE. I KNOW I HAVE SEVERAL AND I THINK WITH THE CONFERENCE, THAT HAS BEEN ANOTHER WAY OF SEEING WHO IS INTERESTED. SO, YES, AFTER WE ADJOURN, IF YOU HAVE SOME MEMBERS OR POSSIBLE 
          MEMBERS -- >> I DIDN'T KNOW. ORIGINALLY I KNEW THERE WAS A CALL FOR INTEREST AND YOU ARE CURRENT?
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.