Nov 03, 2025 City Council Meeting

[2. AGENDA APPROVAL ]

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COMMON COUNCIL TO ORDER. WE HAVE EIGHT OF THE NINE, MONDAY , MONDAY, NOVEMBER 3 FIRST UP IS AGENDA APPROVAL.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, NEXT IS OUR INVOCATION. LED BY PASTOR JOSH OF MERCY ROAD CHURCH.

>> THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE MERCER ROAD FAMILY CHURCH I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY WILL YOU WITH ME? BEGIN WITH A MOMENT OF PRAYER TO ASK YOU ARE WITH US DURING THIS TIME, THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT CITY WE GET TO BE PART OF BECAUSE OF THE SERVICE OF SO MANY INCLUDING THOSE IN THIS ROOM. WATCH OVER AND PROTECT THEM, EVEN IN DIFFERENCES WE FIND UNITY TO MAKE THIS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I PRAY THIS IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.

>> THANK YOU, PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY

DEPUTY MAYOR OF THE EVENING. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD , INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[5. RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS ]

>> THANK YOU, NEXT RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS. CHIEF YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION.

>> GOOD EVENING MR. PRESIDENT MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MAYOR, THIS IS A FIRST FOR CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT AND IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POLICING FIREMEN THEY DON'T LIKE CHANGE BUT THEY DON'T LIKE THE WAY THINGS ARE AND SO IT IS ALWAYS INTERESTING WHEN WE ARE INSTITUTING NEW IDEAS AND BUT I AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS GROUP OF MEN AND WOMEN THAT I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE TO YOU NOW. I WILL CALL THEIR NAMES AND SHARE ANOTHER LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT ALL OF THEM. WE HAVE BRANDON BAILEY, MAX DICKMANN, JOSEPH GOAD, ADAM GRIMES, LET'S MOVE AROUND THE DAIS. JOSIAH HEATH, KATELYN HEISHMAN, NICK INGRAM, ADAM LEONARD, KATHERINE PALLIKAN, SCOTT PLOUGH, ANDREW ROEMBKE, STUART SHARP AND JOHN SCOTT. AND ONE THING WE ARE GOING THROUGH IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WENT THROUGH THIS A FEW YEARS AGO. A NUMBER OF MEN AND WOMEN RETIRING IN THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WE HAVE CLOSE TO 15 THAT ARE GOING TO BE RETIRING BY THE FIRST HALF OF 2026 AND THEN PROBABLY ANOTHER DOZEN INTO 2027. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, THE MEN AND WOMEN RETIRING 25 AND 30 YEARS PLUS WITH THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT SO WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE GOING OUT THE DOOR AS THE COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO GROW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO DO THAT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING LATERAL HIRING PROCESSES FOR MANY YEARS, BUT THERE'S IS THE FIRST LATERAL HIRING PROCESS FOR THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE HAVE TAKEN INTEREST , MEN AND WOMEN FROM ALL OVER THE STATE WITH THE EXPERIENCE, ALREADY CERTIFIED FIREFIGHTERS, EMTS AND PARAMEDICS ALREADY SERVING IN A FULL-TIME ROLE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES BUT THEY HAVE A DESIRE TO COME TO CARMEL BECAUSE CARMEL IS THE BEST AND THEY WANT TO BE AMONG THE BEST AND TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY WITH PRIDE. I COULD NOT BE MORE EXCITED. WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU IS 108 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WE ARE BRINGING INTO THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WE HAVE MANY YEARS GOING OUT THE DOOR THIS IS NOT A PROCESS WE WILL BE DOING ALL THE TIME. WE HAVE AT LEAST 22 RECRUITS COMING IN STARTING IN JANUARY AND WE ARE SEEING THE TRANSITION WITHIN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT , BUT I COULD NOT BE MORE EXCITED. WE HIRED THEM THEY HAD SIX WEEKS OF

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THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT FROM THE FINANCIAL STANDPOINT MAYOR , THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. WE HAVE A FEW FIREFIGHTERS AND WANTED TO INTRODUCE THEM TO THE COMMUNITY. WELCOME TO THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF CARMEL.

[6. RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ]

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH ALL OF THE NEW CARMEL FIREFIGHTERS. HAPPY TO HAVE THEM HERE. AS THEY ARE HEADED OUT WE WILL MOVE INTO THE BLUE CARD SECTION RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW HERE SO I WILL REMIND YOU OF SOME OF THE RULES, THREE MINUTES, COME UP HERE TO THE MICROPHONE, PUSH THE BUTTON AND YOU WILL SEE IT TURN GREEN THAT MEANS YOUR TIME HAS STARTED. SHANNON WILL HELP YOU SHE'S VERY GOOD AT HELPING. WHEN YOU SEE IT TURN YELLOW YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS. TRY TO WRAP UP YOUR THOUGHT, RED MEANS FINISH THE SENTENCE WE TRY TO BE FAIR AND GIVE EVERYONE THREE MINUTES. WE DO ASK THAT THERE IS NO CHEERS FOR BOOING, ANY KIND OF AUDIBLE NOISE FROM THE CROWD DURING THIS. THIS IS NOT A DIALOGUE THIS IS OUR CHANCE TO HEAR FROM YOU AND WE TALK FOR THREE MINUTES AND FIRST UP, MOVE OUT THERE, BRADLEY SNEED WOULD BE NEXT AFTER THAT.

>> HELLO, MY NAME IS STREET FROM THE BRIDGES. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE COULD YOU 31 SUB AREA COVER HANDS OF PLAN AMENDMENT. THIS IS A COMPLEX HARD TO EXPLAIN RESOLUTION THAT INCLUDES FIVE MILES OF U.S. 31 FROM 96 , TWO 146 WHICH INCLUDES 10 MILES BOTH SIDES OF MERIDIAN. I'VE ATTENDED MOST MEETINGS REGARDING THIS PLAN SINCE ITS PUBLIC HEARING JULY 25, THE PLANNING COMMISSION COMMITTEE MET SEVERAL TIMES TO REVISE AND APPROVE THE PLAN AND THE FULL PLANNING COMMISSION GAVE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION ON OCTOBER 23 BUT RECENTLY I LEARNED THE US 31 SUB AREA PLAN WILL BE SENT TO CITY COUNCIL MONDAY TO CITY COUNCIL MONDAY, NOVEMBER 17, BUT SINCE IT IS A RESOLUTION IT IS NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT CITY COUNCIL AND IT WILL BE SENT TO LAND-USE WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER TO LAND-USE WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 19 WHERE THERE IS OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK I REQUESTED SEVERAL TIMES THE CITY HAVE A MAP SHOWING THE NEIGHBORHOODS ADJACENT TO THE U.S. 31 SUB AREA PLAN, THE NEIGHBOR WHO ASKED HOW SHE COULD HELP SHE FOUND 46 NEIGHBORHOODS ADJACENT TO THE PLAN AND COUNCIL MEMBER REPRESENTING FOR THE PLAN COMMISSION CONTACTED HOA WITH CURRENT INFORMATION TO THIS PLAN AS OF TODAY NOVEMBER 3 NOVEMBER 3, 2025 THERE ARE 25 LETTERS ON THE DOCKET FOR THE PLAN . I THINK THE NUMBER IS BECAUSE THIS PLAN WAS DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN AND MOST CARMEL RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE, HOW CLOSE THEY MIGHT BE AND IF OR HOW IT MIGHT AFFECT THEM. I AM REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING, NUMBER

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>> THANK YOU AND I WILL TRY TO FIND OUT WHEN THE 90 DAY CLOCK STARTED SO WE WILL GET THE FULL DEADLINE OUT. NEXT UP, BRADLEY SNEED AND AFTER THAT JANET HARPER.

>> GOOD EVENING I AM A RESIDENT OF THE DEERFIELD NEIGHBORHOOD.

CAME HERE ON BEHALF OF MY HOA I AM A RESIDENT NOT A MEMBER OF THE BOARD BUT THEY ASKED ME TO VOICE MY OPINION TO THE COUNCIL.

LOOKING TO HAVE OUR SPEED LIMIT REDUCED FROM 30 MILES PER HOUR TO 25. I HAVE GOT KIDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS FULL OF KIDS WE HAVE 44 HOUSES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT IS A NON-THROUGH STREET SO UNLESS YOU HAVE BUSINESS OF GOING THERE THERE'S NO REASON TO GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD EXCEPT FOR THE FACT WE ARE A GROWING NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S MORE KIDS , MORE FAMILIES, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS FULL , THERE IS ONE HOUSE FOR SALE. BUT, THE CHILDREN ARE PLAYING OUTSIDE , THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS , SO IT IS A THROUGH STREET OR A STREET BACK AND FORTH, BUT THE SPEED LIMIT IS CURRENTLY 30 MILES PER HOUR.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU KNOW VEHICLES OR NOT, I LIVE, WORK IN THE AUTOMOTIVE WORLD THE AVERAGE STOPPING DISTANCE IN MILES PER HOUR FOR AN AVERAGE CAR TALKING A MIDSIZED SEDAN IS 75 FEET.

DROP THAT FIVE MILES PER HOUR, TO 25 GOING FROM 75 FEET TO 55 FEET NOW THE 20 FOOT DISTANCE DIFFERENCE IS ENOUGH BETWEEN A KID HAVING A BAD DAY AND A KID GOING TO THE HOSPITAL. LET'S CONSIDER , YOU KNOW ACTUALLY MAKING IT OFFICIAL GOING FROM 30 MILES PER HOUR TO 25. SO KIDS CAN PLAY IN THE STREET AND HAVE MORE REACTION TIME SO IT IS POSTED SOMEWHERE SO PEOPLE CAN DO THE DRIVE THROUGH . AS A MENTION WE ARE FULL SO THERE'S CONSTANTLY DELIVERY VEHICLES. WE HAVE THE DOORDASH GUYS, THE AMAZON TRUCKS, THE UPS TRUCKS THEY ALL COME AND GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IF WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF REDUCTION OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED SO WE CAN HAVE MORE REACTION TIME THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU COUNCIL.

>> THANK YOU, JOHN HARPER YOU'RE UP NEXT AND CHRIS JAEGER IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE YOUR WAY UP BEHIND HER. ALREADY PUSHED WHEN IT TURNS GREEN YOUR GOOD.

>> JANET HARPER THE PRESIDENT OF THE DEERFIELD CIVIC LEAGUE ORGANIZATION. I WILL REPEAT MOST OF WHAT RYAN SAID WE ARE THE LAST HAPPY AND PROUD TO MAKE THAT WE ARE RIGHT IN THAT I HAVE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 20 YEARS AND AS BRAD SAID IT LOOKED LIKE A RETIREMENT HOME WE HAD VERY FEW CHILDREN VERY FEW

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>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. CHRIS JAEGER YOU ARE UP NEXT AFTER

THAT, JOHN C DAVIS. >> HI CHRIS JAEGER THE VP DEERFIELD HOA I WON'T REPEAT EVERYTHING THE OTHER TWO SAID.

THE PERSPECTIVE, THE THINGS CHANGED IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS DELIVERY DRIVERS. THE ODD BEEN OF THE SCOOTER WITH THE MOTOR ON IT GOING 30 MILES PER HOUR ON THE SCOOTER TRAFFIC REAL FAST. THE OTHER THING I REQUEST IS TO CONSIDER ONE SPEED LIMIT SIGN RIGHT NOW AT THE BEGINNING MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A SIGN WHEN YOU TURN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S RIGHT THERE SO TO PROVIDE A COUPLE MORE. TO THOSE DRIVERS WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS OTHERWISE THE SAME AS THE OTHERS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT UP IS JOHN C DAVIS IN OUR FINAL SPEAKER FOR TONIGHT IS DAVIS 38 YEAR RESIDENT OF CARMEL. A FEW MONTHS AGO I STARTED GETTING TEXT FROM SERVICES ABOUT THE GARBAGE PICKUP FOR SEEING CIRCUMSTANCES THE DELAY UP TO ONE DAY I BEGAN RECEIVING THESE ON A REGULAR BASIS SAYING EACH TIME UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT IS NOT UNFORESEEN WHEN YOU GET THESE EVERY WEEK. SOUGHT THE END OF THE MONTH OCTOBER 1 I GOT ANOTHER UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES SHOWING UP WEDNESDAY A DAY LATE THEY CAME BY MY PICKUP WHEN I HEARD THE TRUCK GO BY I WENT OUTSIDE TO LOOK AND THE GARBAGE TRUCK MOVED THE GARBAGE CANS FROM WHERE THEY WERE PLACED INTO THE STREET IN FRONT OF MY MAILBOX SO I STARTED LOOKING DOWN THE STREET AND EVERY GARBAGE CAN WAS PLACED INSIDE OF THE STREET SO RESIDENTS COMING HOME AT NIGHT WHEN IT STARTS TO GET DARK WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THE GARBAGE CANS SINCE THEY ARE DARK THEY WILL HIT THEM SO I STARTED LOOKING DOWN THE STREET AND WHEN THE DRIVER CAME BACK I WENT UP TO HIM AND WHEN HE WAS SAFELY STOPPED I APPROACHED HIM AND ASKED WHY THEY HAD NOT BEEN PICKING UP GARBAGE LAST WEEK HIS ANSWER WAS HE IS NOT FROM HERE I DON'T KNOW WHY. I SAID DO YOU DO THIS IN REAL THE BASIS HE SAID I'M NOT FROM HERE I'M A SUBSTITUTE. HE SPOKE WITH A HEAVY HISPANIC ACCENT I SAID WHY ARE THE GARBAGE CANS LEFT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET WHERE PEOPLE CAN HIT THEM? THERE IS A ORDINANCE THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT PLACE OBJECTS IN THE STREET THAT IS A HAZARD TO TRAFFIC. SO HE SAID I HAVE NO IDEA AND I SAID LOOKED DOWN THE STREET THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AND HE HAD NO ANSWER. I SAID ARE YOU A U.S. CITIZEN HE SAID WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MAKE AND I SAID IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE NOT A CITIZEN IF YOU HAVE A GREEN CARD HE SAID I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT. HE IS CORRECT HE DOES NOT HAVE TO ANSWER TO ME BUT HE DOES HAVE TO ANSWER TO OFFICIALS. SO I DROVE TO THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GARBAGE CANS ARE LEFT ALL OVER THE STREET FOR A, WHEN THEY PICK THEM UP AND PUT THEM BACK, LAST WEEK THE GARBAGE CAN CAME OUT AND HE PICKED THEM UP AND I WENT AND TOOK A PICTURE OF HIM SO HE PUT THEM BACK WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. HE DROVE DOWN THE STREET AND TURN THE CORNER I CANNOT SEE HIM BUT WHEN THEY CAME UP STOPPED AT THE NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET AND THEN HE ACTUALLY GOT OUT AND PLACED THE GARBAGE CANS ONE BY ONE BACK ON THE DRIVEWAY SO IT CAN BE DONE SAFELY WITHOUT A PROBLEM SO WE HAVE A PROBLEM HERE IN THE STATE OF INDIANA, LAST WEEK THE SECRETARY ALONG WITH THE STATE OF INDIANA STATE POLICE AND THE GOVERNOR WERE INVOLVED ON A BUS STOP WHERE THEY HAD 220 LEGAL DRIVERS , 46 HAVE CDL'S ISSUED FROM OUTSIDE THE STATE SO IF THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON I BELIEVE THE REPUBLIC IS NOT

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FINALLY OUR LAST SPEAKER JACK FELDMAN.

>> HI GUYS, JACK FELDMAN CARMEL RESIDENT HERE TO SPEAK ON THE CITY HALL ORDINANCE. MY POSITION STANDS ORDINANCE TO MAINTAIN PUBLIC SPACE FOR THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF CARMEL AND IF YOU LIKE THE WAITING TIME TO HAVE CURRENTLY ARE VERY GOOD FOR PEOPLE COMING OUT FROM SCHOOL, FROM WORK THIS IS A GREAT PLACE WHERE THEY CAN COME CENTRALLY LOCATED AND THEY ARE GOOD TIMES

FOR PEOPLE THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT IS

[7. COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS ]

>> MY NAME IS ED I AM A SIXTH GRADER FROM CREEKSIDE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND IT WILL BE DELIVERING TONIGHT'S MAYOR COUNCIL REPORT.

FIRST THE MAYOR WOULD LIKE TO THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVING THE 2026 CITY BUDGET SHE APPRECIATES THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT WENT INTO FINALIZING IT. WITH THE BUDGET IN PLACE THE CITY TEAM IS READY TO GET TO WORK ON PLANNING AND PUTTING IT INTO ACTION TO HELP PEOPLE ALL OVER CARMEL. ON OCTOBER 23 MAYOR FINKAM JOINED THE COMMUNITY AT CARTER GREEN TO CELEBRATE THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS, EVEN THOUGH THE EVENT MOVED TO A DIFFERENT EVENING IT WAS STILL A VIBRANT AND JOYFUL GATHERING THANKS TO THE HARD WORK OF CITY TEAMS AND THE EVENT COMMITTEE. MAYOR FINKAM WOULD ESPECIALLY LIKE TO THANK COUNSELOR JOSHI FOR MAKING THE CELEBRATION A SUCCESS. PEOPLE CAME FROM ALL OVER INDIANA AND EVEN BEYOND TO TAKE PART IN THESE FESTIVITIES. LAST WEEK MARKED THE FINAL NEIGHBORHOOD POP-UP OF THE SEASON, MAYOR FINKAM WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND HEARTFELT THINGS TO ALL THE COUNSELORS WHO PARTICIPATED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AT THESE EVENTS. YOUR INVOLVEMENT HELP STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY TIES AND ENSURES EVERY VOICE IS HEARD, THESE POP-UPS HAVE BECOME A GREAT WAY TO CONNECT WITH RESIDENTS, LISTEN TO CONCERNS AND CELEBRATE NEIGHBORHOODS. ON SATURDAY TWO CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL SOCCER TEAMS COMPETED IN THE STATE TOURNAMENT. THE BOYS VARSITY TEAM TOOK HOME STATE CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE ADDING TO THE IMPRESSIVE SEASON WINNING 18 OUT OF 22 GAMES PLAYED. WHILE THE GIRLS VARSITY DID NOT WIN THE TITLE THEY HAD EQUALLY IMPRESSIVE RECORD WINNING 19 OUT OF 23 GAMES PLAYED THIS YEAR. THE MAYOR WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE BOTH TEAMS ON A FANTASTIC SEASON. FINALLY MAYOR FINKAM WOULD LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE TO ATTEND THE CITY VETERANS DAY CEREMONY FRIDAY VETERANS DAY CEREMONY FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 7 AT 12:00 P.M. THIS SPECIAL EVENT HONORING THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE MILITARY PROTECT FREEDOM AND WILL BE HELD AT THE BOOTH CIVIC THEATER THANK YOU.

>> ALSO THE KEYNOTE FOR THE VETERANS EVENT IS THE CONGRESSMAN WHO IS A PURPLE HEART OF WARTY AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING HIM HERE IN TOWN. HE FEELS HONORED, LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THERE AND HOPEFULLY THE WEATHER WILL COOPERATE AND WE WILL GO TO THE VETERANS MEMORIAL WITH CARNATIONS AT THE BASE OF THE STATUE THERE. WOULD LIKE TO THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR PARTNERING WITH ME IN THE TACKLING HUNGER INITIATVE, CARMEL PLAYS AND WILL BEAT WESTFIELD FRIDAY NIGHT FOR THE SECTIONAL FINALS AND WE ARE HOSTING THE SHAMROCKS ON FRIDAY NIGHT AND WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HELP RAISE FUNDS FOR HUNGER IN THE COMMUNITY SO TOMORROW A PRESS RELEASE SHOULD GO OUT HIGHLIGHTING THE NEED AND OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THIS IS A TOUGH TIME FOR A LOT OF FAMILIES WHOSE BENEFIT ARE DECREASED THROUGH DAYCARE AND CHILDCARE WITH HER HUNGER AND HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES WHETHER TO PAY THE RENT OR BUY FOOD OR PICK UP DIAPERS.

WE WANT TO ALLEVIATE THAT A LITTLE BIT. THE CITY WOULD PAY $5000 TO THE FOOD BANK AND EACH RESIDENT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DONATE FOR THE CARMEL SITE OR THE OTHER COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE HOPING PEOPLE HELP DONATE TO THE FOOD BANK AND THE LOSER WILL BUY THE WINTER BREAKFAST IN HIS OR HER TOWN AND CHOICE OF BREAKFAST JOINT FOR EXTRA ADDED ON THE SITE. THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL FOR PARTNERING AND WESTFIELD CITY COUNCIL IS PARTNERING AS WELL.

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>> THANK YOU. ANY COUNCIL COMMENTS? COUNSELOR JOSHI?

>> I WANT TO SHOUT OUT THE NEW CARMEL APPLICATION FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ROLLED OUT THIS MORNING. A PROJECT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON WITH PRESIDENT AASEN AND COUNSELOR GREEN MAKING SURE WE GET THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST AND PEOPLE WITH THE MOST EXPERIENCE OR PASSIONATE ABOUT THE CITY COMING OUT TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WHENEVER PROCESS OPEN ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND I WILL TRY TO SURE THAT. I WOULD ASK MY COUNCIL TO SHARE THAT OUT TO PEOPLE SO THEY CAN APPLY FOR THIS VARIETY OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. IT SPEAKS TO THE GREAT CITIZENRY THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN FEEL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WITH VERY VERY QUALIFIED PEOPLE HERE IN THE

CITY OF CARMEL. >> MR. PRESIDENT I CAN VERIFY WE

HAVE GOT SEVERAL IN TODAY. >> WE ARE GETTING INTO CITY EMAILS AND AM EXCITED TO SEE THEM COME IN BECAUSE I AM HOPING WE HAVE SO MANY APPLICANTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS BECAUSE THEN WE WILL HAVE A REALLY GOOD PROCESS TO MAKE . ANYONE REGARDLESS OF HOW LONG WE HAVE BEEN IN THE CITY AND AGE, WHAT PART OF TOWN WE WANT YOU TO APPLY AND EVEN IF ALL THE APPLICATIONS, IF YOU DON'T GET CHOSEN THIS TIME I'M SURE WE WILL HOLD ON TO APPLICATIONS WITH OTHER OPENINGS OPENING UP IN THE FUTURE. COUNSELOR SNYDER.

>> I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT AARON HIGH SCHOOL TECHNICALLY IN NOBLESVILLE WITH A LOT OF CARMEL STUDENTS AND THEY SAID THEY SET A RECORD IN THE SOCCER STATE CHAMPIONSHIP WITH 23 GOAL KICKS. THE GOALIE CONVERTED ONE OF THE PENALTY SHOTS AND SCORED THE GOAL AND HE MADE THE FINAL SAFE IN WHAT WAS SO SPECIAL ABOUT THAT WAS HIS FATHER WAS A HIGH SCHOOL SOCCER COACH AND PASSED AWAY A FEW YEARS AGO SO HE DEDICATED THE SEASON TO HIS FATHER AND HE WENT ON TO MAKE THE WINNING SAVE AND CONVERTED ONE OF THE PENALTY SHOTS INTO A GOAL SOAKING IN RELATION TO HIM IN MEMORY OF HIS FATHER AND ALSO TO ALL THE PLAYERS AND ESPECIALLY ALL THE FOLKS FROM CARMEL SO

CONGRATULATIONS. >>

>> SORRY TO GO AFTER YOU ON THAT. THE CARMEL GIRLS CROSS COUNTRY TEAM ALSO WON STATE SO I WANT TO CONGRATULATE. DID THE BOYS WIN? GOOD RELATIONS TO THE GIRLS AND GREAT JOB TO THE BOYS.

ANOTHER STATE CHAMPIONSHIP UNDER OUR BELT.

>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK COMMERCIAL FOR THE PROJECT CIVILITY WORKSHOP THE NEXT EVENT IS FREE AND IT WILL BE ON THE THURSDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING CALLING IT PLEASE PASS THE CIVILITY AND THIS IS ABOUT HAVING CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE WHOM YOU DON'T AGREE. WILL HAVE A PROFESSIONAL FACILITATOR TO GO OVER THE ABCS OF CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATION. IF YOU HAVE A UNCLE JOE AT YOUR TABLE AT THANKSGIVING YOU WILL WANT TO COME TO THIS. NOVEMBER 20, 7:00 UNTIL 9:00 P.M. AT CARMEL LIBRARY, GO TO THE WEBSITE THERE IS A REGISTRATION IT IS FREE.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> MR. PRESIDENT ONE MORE THING SINCE WE ARE GIVING ACCOLADES TO CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL. THEY HAD OVER 1000 PEOPLE COME TO THE OPEN HOUSE YESTERDAY WHICH IS INCREDIBLE, A TESTAMENT TO THE AMAZING SCHOOL SYSTEM WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY. ALSO THE MARCHING GREYHOUNDS COMPETE FOR STATE STANDARD A. IF YOU WANT TO GO AND SEE AN INCREDIBLE SHOW THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO ENTERTAIN YOURSELF AND YOUR

FAMILY. >> WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE ON. A

[8. CONSENT AGENDA ]

>> SECOND. >> MOVE AND SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

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[10.b. Land Use and Special Studies Committee ]

>> WE HAVE NOT HAD A MEETING SINCE LAST COUNCIL MEETING

NOTHING TO REPORT. >> LAND-USE AND SPECIAL USE

COMMITTEE COUNCILOR SNYDER. >> THANK YOU WE WILL HAVE THE NEXT LAND-USE MEETING THIS WEDNESDAY AT THE POLICE STATION THIS IS THE ONE DATE OF THE YEAR WE KNEW THE LIBRARY COULD NOT ACCOMMODATE SO THE MEETING WILL BE AT THE POLICE STATION THEY HAVE A NICE LARGE CONFERENCE ROOM KEEPING IT AS INFORMAL AS WE CAN. LIKE THE ONES YOU MAY BE USED TO. THE ONLY THING WELL ONE THING I THINK WE WILL FOCUS ON IS MICRO MOBILITY. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED THAT WILL BE THE AGENDA TOPIC , THERE WILL BE OTHER THINGS ON THE AGENDA BUT IT IS UNLIKELY WE WILL GET TO THEM IT WILL BE ALL MICRO MOBILITY IN RESPONSE TO, WE HAVE SPOKEN TODAY ABOUT POSSIBLY ADDING A SPECIAL LAND-USE AND SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THE FOLLOWING WEDNESDAY SPECIFICALLY TO ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS , NOT SURE WHERE THAT WOULD BE BUT IT WOULD BE IN A CONVERSATIONAL TOWN HALL STYLE SO EVERYBODY CAN GET THEIR OPINIONS OUT CONVERSATIONALLY . I WOULD SAY LOOK TO CITY NOTICES FOR CONFIRMATION , WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. AND THEN JACK , THE CITY HALL ORDINANCE PROBABLY GOING TO PUSH UNTIL LATER IN THE YEAR OR THE END OF THE YEAR. STILL GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE MAYOR HAS SHOWN SUPPORT SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IN JEOPARDY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE DO RESERVES COMMUNITY ACCESS TO THE BUILDING AND PUBLIC IN PERPETUITY SO WE WANT TO TAKE TIME TO MAKE SURE WE CROSS ALL TEES AND DOTS ALL OF OUR HI.

UPCOMING AGENDA AND FORECAST FOR LAND-USE SPECIAL STUDIES I DO HOPE WE BRING MICRO MOBILITY BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL AT THE

NEXT COUNCIL MEETING GO AHEAD. >> CAN WE ALSO , IF THERE'S TIME AT THE END FOR MICRO MOBILITY DISCUSSION AT THE LAND-USE COMMITTEE MEETING IF WE CAN GO OVER THE PROJECT LIST AS WELL IF WE HAVE TIME I KNOW WE DISCUSS THEM I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. IF NOT

WE CAN PUSH IT. >> ONE NOTE I WOULD SAY I HAVE BEEN HEARING SOME BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE ALREADY BEING ASKED TO RECONSIDER THEIR HOURS SO I HATE FOR THAT ACTION TO HAPPEN WHILE THIS IS SITTING THERE. I HAD ANOTHER ONE TODAY REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT IT SO MULTIPLE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE CITY HALL REACH OUT ABOUT LOOKING AT THE HOURS.

>> NOBODY HAS REACHED OUT TO ME SO IF THAT'S HAPPENING.

>> IT IS HAPPENING SO WE SHOULD MAYBE NOT HOLD OFF TOO LONG.

[11.a. Carmel Redevelopment Commission (Monthly) ]

>> OKAY. >> OKAY MOVING ON TO OTHER REPORTS CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MONTHLY REPORT.

>> GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

IF I CAN HAVE MY SCREEN HERE THEN I WILL SHARE THE EVENTS FROM LAST MONTH. CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES OBVIOUSLY THE MOST NOTABLE BEING SQUARE NORTH REALTORS ARE MAKING VIDEOS OF THE PROJECT GOING UP SO THAT IS NICE. FIRST ON MAIN IS BUILT, BUT GOING TO DO A MULTIMEDIA PRESENTATION HERE TODAY. SO THIS SO THIS, IN THE CHAMBER HELD ITS ANNUAL MONUMENTAL AWARDS ADDED TO BEST CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN THE REGION THIS MIGHT BE TOO LOUD SORRY IF IT IS. HERE LAST WEEK AT BANKERS LIFE FIELDHOUSE.

BAINBRIDGE FIELDHOUSE. AND EVERYONE IS CELEBRATING CAMBRIDGE AND THEY ARE PLAYING CITY OF CARMEL PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP ON THE BIG SCREEN AT THE FIELDHOUSE AS IN THE MIDDLE OF INDIANA. SO THAT'S NICE. THAT WE CONTINUE TO CELEBRATE

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SO THAT WAS A NICE PART OF THE CELEBRATION. THAT GENERALLY CONCLUDES REDEVELOPMENT PRESENTATION BUT I DID WANT TO SHOW ONE THING THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT STAFF HELPED WORK ON. SO, THE MAYOR FINKAM ALWAYS WANTED A CATALOG OF OUR PUBLIC ART IN THE CITY OF CARMEL. WE NEVER HAD THAT BEFORE, WE HAD SOME LISTINGS IN THE CITY ON THE COUNTY TOURISM WEBSITE WHICH WAS NOT GREAT , WAS NOT GREAT SO THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO GET TO THE LINK OTHER THAN SEARCHING CITY OF CARMEL PUBLIC ART YOU CAN ALSO GO ON THE MAYOR'S ADVISORY COUNCIL ON THE MAYOR'S ART COMMISSION THERE IS A LINK UNDER THAT WITH A COUPLE OTHER PLACES WE COULD FIND THIS AND ESSENTIALLY THERE IS A TOUR OF CARMEL PUBLIC ART. SO ANYONE CAN GO HERE AND SCROLL DOWN AND SOME BIRDS THAT MAKE SENSE. AND THIS GIVES YOU BY THE WAY THERE'S A GENTLEMAN HE NEEDS TO BE IN ENGINEERING HIS NAME IS SHANE BURNHAM NOW IN I.T. DEPARTMENT HE IS A GIS WIZARD. WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS THE PRODUCT OF SHANE'S WORK AND SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER INFORMATION AND DATA. ESSENTIALLY, YOU ARE NOW ABLE TO SCROLL THROUGH ALL OF OUR ART THAT EXISTS AND IT IS A VERY GOOD LOOKING CATALOG OF ALL THE ART THAT THE CITY MAINTAINS AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE DESKTOP VERSION OF THIS. ONE MORE THING I WANT TO SHOW ANYWAYS ALL THE ART IS ON HERE. THERE'S A SEPARATE COMPONENT TO THIS THAT I WANT TO SHOW IT IS CALLED THE WALKING TOUR IF YOU WANT TO GET EXERCISE AND LOOK AT ART YOU ARE ABLE TO CLICK THIS LINK AND REMEMBER THIS WAS DIRECTLY PART OF ANOTHER LINK SO THIS IS ANOTHER APPLICATION, BUT THIS SPLITS IT INTO A ONE MILE WALK IN THE ARTS AND DESIGN DISTRICT AND A ONE MILE WALK IN THE CITY CENTER AND THE START OF ONE IS THE BEGINNING OF THE OTHER. THIS ALLOWS YOU TO GET LOOKING AT A DESKTOP VERSIONWHICH MAKES NO SENSE BECAUSE YOU WON'T BE ON YOUR DESKTOP AS YOU ARE WALKING AROUND SO LOOKS LOOKS BETTER ON THE MOBILE VERSION. IT LET YOU WALK AROUND CITY CENTER AND YOU GET YOUR ONE MILE WALK IN THAT WAY. LET YOU WALK AROUND AND GIVES YOU THE PATH TO DIFFERENT KINDS OF ART AND IT CREATES THE SAME IN THE ARTS AND DESIGN DISTRICT. IF YOU WANT TO GET YOUR STEPS IN WHILE CHECKING OUT PUBLIC ART HERE ARE PUBLIC TOOLS THANKS TO THE MAYOR THAT GIVES EVERYONE A GOOD VIEW OF THAT.

WITH THE LATEST UPDATE LET'S SEE IF IT IS. DOING THIS LIVE. SO IF IT IS NOT , THIS IS LIKE WHEN THEY THROW STUFF AT THE CYBERTRUCK ON STAGE. THERE WE GO. NOW INDIAN HERITAGE

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>> WHERE'S THE ONE BY

>> IT BETTER BE BECAUSE IT IS NOVEMBER SO IF IT IS NOT UP THERE LET'S FIND IT. GIVE ME A SECOND. NO. THAT'S NOT IT.

>> THAT'S GOING TO BE CYCLO-NOW I HAVE THESE MEMORIZED EVERYONE.

HERE WE ARE. MORNING SUN EVERYONE. OKAY.

>> FIVE DOLLARS, YOU CAN DONATE MONEY TO THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT AUXILIARY AND TAKE A PICTURE AND PLANT A FLAG IN HONOR OF SOMEONE LOST TO CANCER OR MENTAL HEALTH , MEN?

>> THANK YOU. >> COUNSELOR SNYDER?

>> TWO THINGS. ONE, MORNING SUN PUBLIC PROBABLY WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHY MEN'S HEALTH IS DONE THERE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN

THAT? >> ALMOST AS IMPORTANT AS MEN'S HEALTH IS INTERPRETATION OF PUBLIC ART . I CAN'T EXPLAIN BUT THIS IS CALLED MORNING SUN AND IT IS ABSTRACT AND I WILL LET YOUR MINDS FILL IN THE DETAILS.

>> SECONDLY, FOLLOW-UP TO MY COMMENTS ON CITY HALL AVAILABILITY YOU HAVE A MONTHLY MEETING , THERE HAS NOT BEEN TALKS ABOUT YOU MOVING YOUR MEETING YOU WILL KEEP IT 6:30

ONCE A MONTH? >> THIS IS PROBABLY THE THING I WILL CHECK WITH ADMINISTRATION ABOUT FURTHER GUIDANCE ON AND DO

WHATEVER LEADERSHIP ASKS OF ME. >> DON'T YOU SET YOUR OWN MEETINGS? THE COMMISSION IS A SEPARATE ENTITY?

>> IT IS A SEPARATE LEGAL ENTITY THREE OF THE FIVE MEMBERS APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR SO WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY AND WE TAKE OUR LEAD FROM THE ADMINISTRATION SO WE WILL DO WHATEVER THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE LIKELY DOING.

BUT I DO NOT HAVE A FINAL ANSWER. I AM WAITING FOR FINAL

GUIDANCE. >> THANK YOU. AS A CRC MEMBER WHO DOES HAVE A DAY JOB AND CHILDREN I KNOW I'M THE ONL ONE ON THE CRC BUT THAT WOULD MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR THOSE WITH JOBS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH I

DO APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU.

[11.i. Climate Action Advisory Committee (Quarterly – March, June, September, December) ]

>> MOVING ON OTHER REPORTS WE HAVE THE QUARTERLY REPORT FROM THE CLIMATE ACTION ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

>> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. AS PART OF THE COMMITTEE WE HAVE TWO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS APPOINTED TO THE COMMITTEE. ONE FROM CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT GOVERNMENT AND ONE FROM THE MAYOR YOUTH COUNCIL. I INVITED BOTH OF THEM, EXTENDED THE OFFER TO BOTH OF THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE QUARTERLY UPDATE TO GAIN EXPERIENCE TALKING WITH COUNCIL BEING INVOLVED WITH GOVERNMENT SO A LOT OF THEM HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT THAT POTENTIALLY JOIN IN FUTURE MEETINGS SO HERE IS OUR APPOINTEE FROM THE MAYOR'S YOUTH COUNCIL. ONE TO HELP WITH THE UPDATE SO I WILL HAVE HER LEAD US OFF AND I WILL FILL IN A COUPLE OF LINKS.

>> SO I WORK ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE SO RECENTLY SINCE THIS APRIL WE

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>> BOTH ON OUR COMMITTEE ARE HELPING WITH CORONATION WITH CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL AND TRYING TO GET SOME OF THE MEDIA INFORMATION OUT TO STUDENTS SO THAT IS MUCH APPRECIATED. ASIDE FROM THAT A COUPLE OF UPDATES A REMINDER IF YOU GO TO CLAIMANT CARMEL YOU CAN CHECK OUT THE DASHBOARD THAT SHOWS PROGRESS THROUGH THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS UPDATED SINCE THEN A COUPLE OF INITIATIVES WE HAVE MADE A LITTLE BIT OF PROGRESS ON. ONE NOTABLY I WANTED TO ADDRESS WAS WE COMPLETED ONE ADDITIONAL ACTION ITEM WHICH WAS DOING A STUDY FOR A COMMUTER LINE WITHIN CARMEL. SO, THANKS TO DAVID LITTLEJOHN AND DOCS THEY WENT A STEP FURTHER AND DID NOT JUST LOOK AT THE COMMUTER LINE, BUT ALSO TRANSPORTATION AS A WHOLE SO THEY WORKED WITH A CONSULTANT AND FINISHED A PLAN FOR THAT, THAT INCLUDED SOME INITIAL STEPS OR RECOMMENDATIONS TOWARD MICRO MOBILITY AND ALSO LONG-RANGE ITEMS, AS WELL. SO THEY COMPLETED THAT STUDY SO WE WERE ABLE TO MARK THAT OFF THE LIST WHICH IS GREAT. AGAIN JUST A STUDY THEY HAVE COMPLETED IT SO WE WERE ABLE TO MARKET OFF OF OUR LIST. A COUPLE INITIATIVES WE HAVE BEEN MAKING PROGRESS ON. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH A PUBLIC UTILITY. TO LOOK AT A COMPOSTING PROGRAM TO BE AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS AND THAT HAS GONE IN A COUPLE DIRECTIONS, UTILITIES HAS MADE SOME STEPS THAT THINK THEY HAVE A LEAD ON A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM THAT MIGHT WORK THAT COULD BE OFFERED TO THE PUBLIC SO THERE WILL BE MORE COMING FROM UTILITIES . BUT AT LEAST WE ARE MAKING STEPS FORWARD. UTILITIES HAS BEEN WORKING WITH PURDUE ON LOOKING AT STUDIES THEY HAVE BEEN DOING ON DROUGHT RESISTANT GRASS WITH SOME COOL STUDIES ON THAT, SO TRYING TO MOVE THAT STUFF WITHIN THE CITY TO HELP WITH REDUCING THE NEED FOR IRRIGATION SO THOSE ARE COUPLE INITIATIVES THAT WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS ON. EXCITED ABOUT THOSE, LASTLY WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE ANNUALLY FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS ROUGHLY NOW. TO OFFER SOME VOLUNTEER ACTIVITIES FOR CITY EMPLOYEES SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY SOME SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS TO VOLUNTEER NETWORKS SO WE HAVE CREATED A COUPLE INVASIVE SPECIES PROGRAMS WE HAVE HAD TWICE A YEAR CITY EMPLOYEES COMING OUT HELPING US TO ATTACK SOME INVASIVE SPECIES AREAS REALLY WELL. SO THE NEXT ONE IS NOVEMBER 13 AND WE WILL BE HITTING FOUNDERS PARK AND SOME INVASIVE THERE AND IT HAS BEEN GREAT WITH A NUMBER OF STREET DEPARTMENT CREWS COMING OUT AND

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>> COUNCILOR MINNAAR. >> MAYBE, CONGRATULATIONS. FROM SOMEONE WHO REALLY THINKS OUR ENVIRONMENT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND AS A COMPOSTER AND RECYCLER AND TREE HUGGER I WILL ADMIT I AM , I APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU HAVE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ON THIS COMMITTEE THAT REALLY CARE ABOUT THESE THINGS AND YOU'RE ABLE TO HAVE THEM BE PART OF OUR COMMISSION AND I THINK IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION AND YOUR GROUP THAT YOU ARE DOING THE HARD WORK AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND YOUR COMMISSION MEMBER MATE FOR DOING ALL OF THIS HARD WORK TO BRING THE ISSUES TO THE FOREFRONT, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WE PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT SO THANK YOU, GOOD

JOB, REALLY GOOD JOB. >> MR. PRESIDENT. I WAS CURIOUS.

YES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORKABLE ECHO COUNCILOR MINNAAR. CURIOUS IF YOUR COMMITTEE IS LOOKING AT LEAVES. CARMEL HAS A TREMENDOUS TREE CANOPY. WE ARE FORTUNATE FOR THE WORK DONE TO BUILD OUR TREE INVENTORY, BUT WITH THAT COMES THE LEAVES AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU KNOW BAGGING LEAVES IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. IT IS CONSIDERED A PRACTICE THAT IS NOW BECOMING FROWNED UPON SO I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT THE COMMITTEE IF IT IS ON YOUR RADAR IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IT, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT STRATEGIES AND HOW CAN CITY COUNCIL ASSIST IN THAT EFFORT TO HAVE MAYBE A BETTER WAY OF HANDLING LEAVES IN THE CITY OF CARMEL AS DO SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE COUNTY.

>> DEFINITELY. LEAVES SPECIFICALLY IS NOT ONE OF THE OUTLINED INITIATIVES WITHIN THE ACTION PLAN. THAT BEING SAID IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE SO THAT IS ONE OF MY KIND OF INITIATIVES TAKING OVER AS CHAIR IS TRYING TO BRIDGE GAPS IN BETWEEN BECAUSE THERE'S THINGS CLIMATE ACTION ADVISORY COMMITTEE FROM UNDERSTANDING IS VERY FOCUSED IN ON THOSE INITIATIVES OUTLINED IN THE PLAN WHERE THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE HAS MORE MEMBERS FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE NOT REPRESENTED IT ON THE CLIMATE ACTION ADVISORY COMMITTEE SO WE LOOK AT A LOT OF OTHER DIFFERENT AREAS AND I KNOW THAT LEAVES HAVE BEEN SOMETHING WE BROUGHT UP IN CONVERSATIONS. WE MEET MONTHLY AND HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE STREET DEPARTMENT ON THERE AND UTILITIES SO THAT IS SOMETHING BROUGHT UP AND THEY HAVE RUN INTO SOME HURDLES WITH EITHER REPUBLIC OR WHOEVER ELSE IT CAN CONTRACT WITH AND WHERE THEY CAN TAKE THOSE LEAVES TO HAVE THEM DROPPED OFF AND THE COST POTENTIALLY THAT IS KIND OF A HURDLE BECAUSE I THINK IT HAS TO BE TAKEN OUTSIDE OF CARMEL. SO I KNOW THAT IS PART OF THE ISSUE BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE STREET DEPARTMENT , BUT I KNOW THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP , BUT I CAN CIRCLE BACK AND GET SOME ANSWERS FOR SURE.

>> IF YOU'RE MEETING ON A MONTHLY BASIS , THAT IS GOOD, SO IF IT CANNOT BE DONE, THEN I WOULD, I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HURDLES ARE AND IT WOULD BE UP TO OTHER BODIES TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO OVERCOME THE HURDLES. I'M GLAD YOU'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE ARE THOSE CONVERSATIONS GOING.

>> DEFINITELY. >> COUNCILOR LOCKE.

>> I GOT AN EMAIL ABOUT BUTTERFLIES, SALAMANDERS AND FIREFLIES. PUTTING CATCHY HILARIOUS ANIMALS IN THE EMAILS AND I WILL OPEN THEM AND I WILL START TO RUN THEM DOWN. DID GET INFORMATION BACK FROM CITY LEGAL ABOUT A NUISANCE LAW ABOUT LEAVES AND WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE CAN LEAVE LEAVES IN THE YARD IF THEY WANT TO AS LONG AS THEY DON'T POSE A NUISANCE THERE IS A REASONABLE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO CHOOSE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO THAT SAID HOA MAY HAVE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND OTHER THINGS

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>> COUNCILOR SNYDER . >> THANK YOU, ERIC. SO YOUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN , WHERE IS IT?

>> I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S MINE. IT IS THE DOCS TRANSPORTATION PLAN. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU REACH OUT TO DAVID

LITTLEJOHN. >> IT SAYS ALL CITY COUNSELORS WERE INTERVIEWED MAY 1 , I NEVER GOT INTERVIEWED. DID ANYBODY ELSE? AND IT ALSO SAYS THE FINAL DRAFT WAS DONE ON MAY 1. SO EVEN IF WE HAD BEEN INTERVIEWED I'M NOT SURE TO WHAT . I GUESS, UNDERSTANDING YOUR INITIATIVE HERE AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE , NOT JUST YOU BUT IT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN ACTIONABLE HAVE BEEN REALLY PRODUCTIVE AND OF BENEFIT TO SOCIETY. SOME GOING TO ASK AGAIN. AND MY INTENT HAS BEEN TO DO THIS AT A CLIMATE ACTION MEETING , BUT THE THINGS YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT REVOLVED AROUND SUSTAINABILITY AND CONSERVATION AND I THINK CLIMATE ACTION COMMITTEE IS A TERRIBLE NAME FOR YOUR COMMITTEE, I THINK IT IS POLARIZING, PEOPLE STAY AWAY FROM IT BECAUSE IT'S VOLATILE AND I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER SERVED TO BE SUSTAINABILITY AND CONSERVATION OR VICE VERSA BECAUSE THOSE ARE THINGS YOU HAVE PROVEN MAKE AN ACTUAL IMPACT IN THIS COMMUNITY MONTH OVER MONTH AND WE SHOULD ALL BE PROUD OF. SO, MAYBE I AM LETTING YOU KNOW MY FORMAL REQUEST NEXT MEETING IS CONSIDER CHANGING BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE AS INTERESTED WHEN THEY HEAR CLIMATE ACTION BECAUSE THE TERM HAS BEEN POLITICIZED SO MUCH OVER THE LAST COUPLE DECADES THAT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS UPSET WITH CONSERVATION AND SUSTAINABILITY WHEN IT'S REAL THINGS. CURIOUS ABOUT THE STUDIES HOW AND IT WILL DIRECT MY QUESTIONS TO THE DOCS, BUT YOU WANT SOMETHING AND DOCS PAYS

FOR IT? >> I WILL CLARIFY THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH, BUT THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN THE WORKS ALREADY. SO THERE ARE THINGS WE DID NOT NECESSARILY PUSH TO GET DONE, IT JUST HAPPENED THAT THE THINGS MESSED UP IN THE PLAN AND THINGS THEY WERE PLANNING ON GETTING DONE THE SAME WITH UTILITIES, THEY ARE WORKING TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION FOR COMPOSTING AND IRRIGATION USE AND WHATEVER. IS FORMALIZING ALL OF THAT STFF SO IT IS REPORTED BACK AND IT STAYS ON TOP OF PEOPLE'S MINDS AS THEY ARE DOING INITIATIVES THAT THEY WANT TO DO WHETHER SOLAR OR UTILITIES AND STREETS IT TIES BACK TO THAT SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES AND IT GIVES SOMETHING TO REPORT BACK TO YOU GUYS. THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WAS SOMETHING WAS IN THE WORKS IT WAS ALREADY BEING DONE AND THE INITIATIVE WAS ORIGINALLY A COMMUTER LINE , BUT THERE IS SO MUCH MORE TO IT THAN JUST A COMMUTER LINE SO THEY BROADEN THE SCOPE QUITE A BIT AND LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE. THEY JUST HAPPEN TO WORK INTO THAT AREA.

WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT FOUR OF THEM BUT IT IS HELPFUL TO GIVE THE CONVERSATIONS GOING AND I AGREE WITH SUSTAINABILITY THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE HAS BEEN GREAT SINCE WE STARTED THAT

ONE. >> SO YOU ARE ON THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE IT'S A SEPARATE COMMITTEE INTERNAL TO THE CITY. IT DOES A LOT OF LEGWORK BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE

TIME. YOU SUPPORT EACH OTHER? >> YES THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE BEING MADE UP OF CITY EMPLOYEES , WE KNOW WHERE THE HURDLES ARE SO WE HELP REPORT THAT BACK TO THE CLIMATE ACTION

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INTO PRACTICE. >> I LOVE THAT SYSTEM.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING WE AS A COMMITTEE ARE ALLOWED TO CHANGE OR IF THAT IS A CITY ORDINANCE THAT IS UP TO

YOU GUYS TO CHANGE. >> IF IT IS CITY ORDINANCE.

WHETHER IT GETS THROUGH OR NOT WE WILL SEE. FINALLY I KNOW YOU HAD BEEN ASKING TO LOOK AT MEETING TIMES WITH HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT'S NOT PRACTICAL. SINCE THIS BECAME A DISCUSSION

IT IS ASKED AGAIN? >> THE DIRECTIVE HAS BEEN STARTING SO THE NEXT MEETING IS NOVEMBER 25 I BELIEVE THAT WAS WE WERE TOLD WE COULD KEEP IN THE EVENING BUT WE HAVE BEEN DOING BIMONTHLY OR EVERY OTHER MONTH SO THE JANUARY MEETING WE HAVEN'T TOLD IT NEEDS TO BE DURING BUSINESS HOURS.

>> I STAND CORRECTED. >> UNDERSTAND I WOULD HOPE WITH , AND UNDERSTAND WE ARE NOT DIRECTING IT AT YOU WE HOPE WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT, WE CAN GET SOMETIMES THAT EVEN LATE AFTERNOON COULD WORK WITH MORE PEOPLE. SO, YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF DISAPPOINTING. BACK TO THE STUDY. ONE, WILL CONTACT LITTLEJOHN TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A COPY OF IT, BUT WITH COUNCILOR LOCKE OR COUNCILOR AYERS ANY BIG HIGHLIGHTS WE SHOULD BE AWARE

OF? >> I'VE NOT PERSONALLY SEEN THE

STUDY. >> EACH OF THE POINT PEOPLE WITHIN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN HAVE , EACH INITIATIVE WILL HAVE THE SPECIFIC PERSON HELPING TO MANAGE SO I HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO A COUPLE, DAVID LITTLEJOHN ASSIGNED TO A COUPLE SO IT IS UPON OURSELVES TO GO UPDATE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROGRESS

OF THOSE SO HE WENT AND UPDATED. >> COMMITTEE HAS NOT DISCUSSED

THE REPORT YET? OKAY. >> I WOULD PREFACE I LIKE THE WAY WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW THESE THINGS WORK IN TANDEM, THINK OF THE CLIMATE ACTION ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR THE GLOBAL WARMING WARRIOR CREW WHATEVER WE ARE MATCHING AS THE NAME , WE ARE THE ACCOUNTABILITY BODIES TO CITY OPERATIONS. WE DO HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATOR OR POSITIONS AFFILIATED TO THE CLIMATE ACTION OR SUSTAINABILITY, WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTORS WITHIN ALL DEPARTMENTS THAT DO THESE THINGS ON A DAILY BASIS SO WE AS A GROUP HELP DRIVE THE CONVERSATIONS AROUND THOSE THINGS IN THE PLAN TO ENSURE THEY ARE HAPPENING . ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT HAS CHANGED AND YOU WILL SEE THOSE CARDS ARE BEING UPDATED WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE NOW TAKING OWNERSHIP TO REPORT BACK TO US AND THE PUBLIC ON THIS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE THE EFFICACY IS GETTING OUTSIDE INFORMATION WE HAVE TWO OF THE SMARTEST YOUNG PEOPLE I HAVE SEEN ON THE COMMITTEE. THEY TAKE NOTES, THEY PUT US IN A SPOT TO DO EVERYTHING WE DO. THEY KEEP US ACCOUNTABLE AND WE WOULD LOSE THAT IF WE DID NOT HAVE THIS COMMITTEE WITH THE PUBLIC BUY-IN. THIS WEAVES A LOT OF WORK AND ENERGY TOGETHER BUT CHOSE HOW TRULY WONDERFUL A COMMUNITY CAN BE WHEN WE ARE DOING IT BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT IT. THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS EVERYBODY IS ALMOST PURELY VOLUNTARY. A FEW FORMER MEMBERS AND THEIR THERE FOR FEEDBACK BUT IT IS THE MOST FUN COMMITTEE WE HAVE. I CAN SAY THAT WITHOUT A DOUBT. IT TRULY IS PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THOSE SO IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS, PULL UP CARMEL CLIMATE YOU CAN FIND THE PERSON WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT WORKING ON IT SEND THEM EMAIL AND ASK FOR UPDATES, IT BECOMES

COLLABORATIVE BECAUSE OF THAT. >> THAT IS A GREAT WEBSITE AND WE WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE I DID CALL ALL THE PEOPLE SERVING ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS I KNOW YOU'RE NOT CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENT, BUT I CALL THE APPOINTMENTS AND WE ARE ENCOURAGING EVERYONE TO APPLY. THERE WILL BE TWO CITY COUNSELORS AND TWO NUMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AVAILABLE FOR APPOINTMENTS TO THE BOARD. WE WOULD LOVE TO CHAT MORE ABOUT

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>> FIRST IT IS FOR CITY EMPLOYEES YES. YES. SO, NOVEMBER 13. BASICALLY THE CITY HAS A POLICY THAT ALLOWS AND SAME WITH PARKS WE ALLOW STAFF TO GO OUT AND VOLUNTEER WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND USE HOURS TO DO VOLUNTEER ACTIVITIES SO WE WORK WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE TO CREATE VOLUNTEER ACTIVITIES OR OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY WILL ASK FOR IT OR WHATNOT. WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO VOLUNTEER. WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR EXTRA VOLUNTEERS FOR PART PROJECTS AND THINGS SO WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER SECTION ON THE WEBSITE WITH A VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR THAT HELPS WORK WITH BUSINESSES AND INDIVIDUALS WE CREATE VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO COME OUT AND DO THE SAME AND HELP WITH SOME INVASIVE SPECIES REMOVAL OR DIFFERENT PROJECTS WE HAVE ON THE PARK SYSTEMS.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO WE

[12.a. Seventeenth Reading of Ordinance D-2762-25; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending Chapter 8, Article 5, Sections 8-37, 8-47, and 8-48 of the Carmel City Code; Sponsor: Councilor Aasen. Remains in the Land Use and Special Studies Committee. ]

[12.b. Twelfth Reading of Ordinance D-2772-25; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Adopting a New Article 8 Under Chapter 2 of the Carmel City Code; Sponsor(s): Councilor(s) Aasen, Ayers, Minnaar, Snyder and Worrell. Remains in the Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee. ]

[12.c. Second Reading of Ordinance D-2795-25; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Establishing Public Areas of City Hall; Sponsor: Councilor Snyder. Remains in the Land Use and Special Studies Committee. ]

[12.d. Second Reading of Ordinance D-2796-25; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending Carmel City Code Chapter 3, Article 2, Section 3-58, Chapter 6, Article 4, Section 6 63, Chapter 8, Article 4, Sections 8-40 and 8-41, Chapter 8, Article 5, Section 8-46, and Adding Chapter 8, Article 4, Section 8-44; Sponsor(s): Councilor(s) Snyder, Ayers, Joshi and Minnaar. Remains in the Land Use and Special Studies Committee. ]

AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA, AMENDING CARMEL CITY CODE CHAPTER 3, ARTICLE 2, SECTION 3-58, CHAPTER 6, ARTICLE 4, SECTION 663, CHAPTER 8, ARTICLE 4, SECTIONS 8-40 AND 8-41, CHAPTER 8, ARTICLE 5, SECTION 8-46, AND ADDING CHAPTER 8.

ARTICLE 4, SECTION 8-44; SPONSOR(S): COUNCILOR(S) SNYDER, AYERS, JOSHI AND MINNAAR. REMAINS IN THE LAND USE AND

[14.a. Resolution CC-11-03-25-01; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Expressing Interest in the Purchase of Certain Properties Valued at Over $25,000.00 and Associated with City Improvement Projects; Sponsor: Councilor Snyder. ]

INTRODUCE. >> MOVED TO INTRODUCE.

>> COUNCILOR SNYDER WOULD YOU READ THE SYNOPSIS?

>> AUTHORIZES PURCHASE OF PROPERTIES WITHIN $25,000 NECESSARY FOR ROAD IMPLEMENT PATH IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

>> ANY DETAILS ON THIS ONE DO WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE CITY TO

PRESENT ON THIS TOPIC? >> EITHER IRONWOOD OR 106 AND LAKESHORE PARCELS OF RIGHT AWAY NEEDED BEYOND THAT.

>> WHO IS THE SPONSOR? >> I AM.

>> THERE ARE A COUPLE. >> COUNSELOR SNYDER 106 AND

LAKESHORE. >> THIS IS LAKESHORE?

>> YES. I CAN'T EVEN ADVOCATE WITHOUT A LIST OR INFORMATION.

>> I THINK IT IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY TELL US WHAT THEY ARE MAYBE HOLD IT UP HERE.

>> YEAH, HOLD IT FOR THE DAIS AND NEXT MEETING WE WILL HAVE

[14.b. Resolution CC-11-03-25-02; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving a Transfer of Funds within the Ambulance Capital Fund (#102); Sponsor: Councilor Taylor. ]

1103-25-02. >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A POINT OF ORDER.

WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW IT HAS BEEN TRADITION THAT THERE IS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY. WE GET ASKED TO SPONSOR ORDINANCES ALL THE TIME. HAPPY TO GET THEM ON THE DOCKET TO HAVE A PROPER HEARING BUT IT IS REALLY UP TO THE, YOU KNOW WHATEVER DEPARTMENT OR WHOEVER DID THIS.

WE CANNOT YOU KNOW WE SHOULD NOT BE IN THIS POSITION. I WANTED TO

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IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE , YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE THERE WITH EXPERTISE TO SPEAK ON IT.

>> WHEN WE ARE ASKED TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA THEN YES WE WOULD

ASSUME. >> THIS IS SERIOUS TIME SO IF SOMEONE SAW IT ON THE AGENDA AND WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THEIR GOING HOME TONIGHT EMPTY-HANDED SO THIS IS , THIS IS YOU KNOW THE CANARY IN THE LANDMINE OR THE COAL MINE SAYING THAT HEY WE ARE GETTING LAZY OR SOMETHING IS GOING ON BUT WE CANNOT HAVE IT. I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE AND NOT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS A PIECE OF THIS FOR THIS REASON.

>> ABSOLUTELY AGREE. I WILL HAVE CONVERSATION MAKE SURE THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. RESOLUTION CC 1103-25-02 SOLUTION COMMON COUNCIL CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA APPROVING TRANSFER OF FUNDS WITHIN THE AMBULANCE CAPITAL FUND ONE TO SPONSORS COUNSELORS TAYLOR AND SNYDER. MOTION TO INTRODUCE? COUNCILOR TAYLOR

WOULD READ THE SYNOPSIS? >> TRANSFERS 204,000 TRANSFERS $204,362 WITHIN THE AMBULANCE CAPITAL FUND.

>> READY TO PRESENT? >> HAPPY TO PRESENT ON THIS ONE.

SO WHAT WAS RECASTED IN ANYBODY'S VOCABULARY PRIOR TO ME MENTIONING THAT WORD? THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE. WE'VE ALREADY DONE ONE AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TWO MORE AMBULANCES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. MUCH MORE COST EFFICIENT AND QUICKER TO KEEP THE BOX, IF YOU WILL, BUT PUT A NEW CHASSIS ON IT WHEN IT HAS REACHED THE END OF ITS USEFUL LIFE. WE ARE TRANSFERRING DOLLARS BECAUSE WE NEED TO PAY OFF THE CAPITAL LEASE FOR TWO AMBULANCES BEFORE WE CAN RE-CHASSIS THEM BECAUSE THE NEW CAPITAL LEASE WE ARE PAYING FOR THE RE-CHASSIS REQUIRE TO HAVE A COPY OF , THEY WILL HOLD THE TITLE TO THE VEHICLES UNTIL THEY ARE PAID OFF BUT WE HAVE TO PAY OFF THE CURRENT CAPITAL LEASE BEFORE WE CAN RE-CHASSIS. HAPPY TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR CHASSIS QUESTIONS.

>> THE FIRST THING WOULD BE TO HELP THE PUBLIC AND THE REST OF US TO DEFINE WHAT EXACTLY IS INCLUDED IN THAT CHASSIS.

>> COMMONLY, THE FRAME. SO EVERYTHING HOOKS ONTO THE CHASSIS. THE AMBULANCE THE BOX, THE ENGINE, THE SUSPENSION

ESSENTIALLY THE FRAME. >> DOES THAT INCLUDE THIS SEATS, THE, ANY INTERNAL STRUCTURES OF THE AMBULANCE? NO. ANOTHER QUESTION IF YOU CAN ANSWER WHAT IS THE LIFECYCLE OF YOUR AVERAGE

AMBULANCE? >> RATE QUESTION. THEY DON'T LAST AS LONG AS YOU WOULD EXPECT BECAUSE THEY ARE DRIVEN REALLY HARD, TO GET FROM THE POINT OF PICKUP TO THE HOSPITAL IT IS PEDAL TO THE METAL. SO WE ARE TALKING NORMALLY PROBABLY 5 TO 7 YEARS BEFORE A CHASSIS MIGHT BE EXHAUSTED . IN THIS SITUATION WE ARE ABLE TO GET AND ALSO THE REPLACEMENT TIME IS ANOTHER BIG FACTOR TO ORDER A NEW AMBULANCE WE ARE TALKING PROBABLY A YEAR AND A HALF OR SO ON BACKORDER WHERE WE CAN RE-CHASSIS IN ABOUT

EIGHT WEEKS. >> YOU CAN RE-CHASSIS THE WHOLE THING IN EIGHT WEEKS AND HAVE IT OUT? THE COST OF THAT OBVIOUSLY UNDERSTANDING THE TIME CONSTRAINTS HAVING TO PUT IN AN ORDER FOR A NEW AMBULANCE IF YOU COULD GIVE US A SENSE OF THE

DIFFERENCE OF THAT. >> A NEW AMBULANCE IS COSTING AND IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW BIG THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT HAS ASSUME IN THE BALLPARK OF HALF $1 MILLION FOR A COMPLETE NEW AMBULANCE WHEREAS THE RE-CHASSIS IS SLIGHTLY LESS THAN HALF OF

THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> QUESTIONS? I WANT TO POINT OUT I KNOW COUNCILOR SNYDER HAS BROUGHT UP QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EVIDENCE FUND, MONEY FROM THE AMBULANCE FUND SPENT ON AMBULANCES. NO ISSUE THERE. ANY OTHER, GO AHEAD , COUNCILOR SNYDER.

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>> CLEARLY I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS. WHATEVER IT TAKES TO KEEP THE FLEET SAFE SINCE WE SPOKE AND I UNDERSTAND THE LEADTIME BUT A BRAND-NEW AMBULANCE THE HIGHEST END IS HALF 1 MILLION AND WHAT WE ARE BUYING IS 350,000 IS 350,400, THOSE ARE SPECIALIZED MOBILE ERS , VERY SPECIFIC MEDICAL EQUIPMENT. SO, REPLACING THE CHASSIS SO EVERYTHING IS PULLED OFF OF IT AND MOUNTED. IT JUST I WONDER EVEN WITH A TIME DELAY WHY WE WOULD NOT BUY ANOTHER AMBULANCE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS DEPRECIATION SCHEDULE. IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF EFFORT FOR SOMETHING THAT FREE $5 MILLION FIRE TRUCK IS NOT AS CUMBERSOME ON THE CITY FOR SUCH AN IMPORTANT THING.

>> THE OTHER PIECE I SHOULD'VE MENTIONED EARLIER. NOT ONLY THE COST, NOT ONLY THE LEADTIME, BUT ALSO FROM SUSTAINABILITY THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BOX AND THE ENGINE SO, REUSING THAT AND PLACING A NEW CHASSIS CHECKS ALL THOSE BOXES. MORE TIMELY, MORE COST EFFECTIVE AND WE HAVE NOT WASTED THE BOX.

THERE IS A INDUSTRY BUILT AROUND THE RE-CHASSIS.

>> ALSO INDUSTRY AROUND SELLING THE USED AMBULANCE AFTER YOU GET A NEW ONE TO COMMUNITIES THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD A NEW ONE AND RECOUPING FUNDS. I AGREE WITH THIS I JUST THINK IT USED TO BE A PRACTICE WHERE WE BOUGHT NEW STUFF AND HELPED COMMUNITIES WITH OLD STUFF. THE FINANCIAL MODEL YOU HAVE PRESENTED IS ROCKSOLID MAKES PERFECT SENSE. AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS A

NEW AMBULANCE. >> I WILL SAY THIS WAS NOT DONE BY ME PUSHING THEM TO BE LEAN OR ANYTHING THIS WAS THEIR PROPOSAL BROUGHT TO US TO REDO THREE AMBULANCES FOR A MUCH LOWER

COST. >> THANK YOU.

>> MY PLEASURE. >> OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THIS IS A RESOLUTION IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND TO PROVE.

ANY CONVERSATION? IF NOT, PLEASE VOTE . THAT PASSES. AGENDA ADD

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COUNCILOR SNYDER. >> QUESTION ABOUT THE PROCESS I KNOW THE ANSWER BUT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO READ ON THE RECORD ANYTHING SUBMITTED BY COMMUNITY MEMBER IS CONFIDENTIAL AND STAYS IN THE FILES? OR IS IT A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD?

>> I THINK THAT IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF TO ANSWER, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO US, BUT NOT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC , THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.

>> UNDERSTAND NOTHING WOULD BE SENT OUT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WE SENT RESUMES BECAUSE THERE'S ADDRESSES, PERSONAL INFORMATION.

WHETHER OR NOT SOMEBODY COULD REQUEST PUBLIC FROM A FOIA AND BE REDACTED I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT.

>> I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE FEARFUL OF APPLYING FOR A

COMMITTEE. >> IT EVENING, CORPORATION COUNCIL. THEY WOULD BE CONSIDERED PUBLIC RECORD SO IF SOMEONE REQUESTED WE WOULD GO THROUGH MAKE THE APPROPRIATE REDUCTIONS BEFORE THEY WOULD GO OUT BUT THEY ARE CONSIDERED PUBLIC RECORDS WHEN THE CITY HAS THE INFORMATION.

>> IF JOHN DOE DID A REQUEST FOR SPECIFICALLY JOHN DOE WOULD YOU INFORM THEM OR WOULD YOU JUST REDACT WHAT YOU FEEL IS THE INFORMATION THAT SHOULD BE REDACTED?

>> WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO INFORM THEM WE COULD CONSIDER THAT A STEP PARTICULARLY FOR THE PROCESS IF WE HAVE INFORMATION PEOPLE MIGHT NOT WANT OUT THERE. WE HAVE RULES TO ABIDE BY FOR WHAT CAN BE REDACTED. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE CAN AUTOMATICALLY REDACT AND OTHERS WE HAVE DISCRETION SO WE WOULD BE FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW JUST AS WE WOULD ON ANY OTHER PUBLIC DOCUMENT THAT SOMEONE REQUESTS.

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>> I GUESS I WANT TO POINT OUT WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST AND THINK YOU FOR SPEARHEADING THIS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE AS INCLUSIVE WITH AS MANY CANDIDATES AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE MISTAKES AND I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY SAYING THIS RESUME HAD THIS AND THIS RESUME HAD THIS AND THEN STARTING TO QUESTION DECISIONS MADE WHEN THERE IS 1 MILLION FACTORS THAT GO INTO IT AND I WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE AS THEY CAN BE

SUBMITTING PERSONAL INFORMATION. >> THE ADDRESS WOULD BE REDACTED. NOT EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE. I AGREE.

HOPEFULLY THERE ARE TOUGH DECISIONS. HOPEFULLY WE GET SO MANY GOOD APPLICANTS PEOPLE SAY THERE WERE A LOT OF GOOD APPLICANTS THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL.

>> THE FINAL THING AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PARLIAMENTARIAN WOULD SAY SO I WILL LEAN ON YOU TWO FOR HISTORICAL ACTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE CITY ENGINEER HAS TO SAY ABOUT PROPERTIES SINCE HE IS HERE IS THAT POSSIBLE TO GO BACK?

>> JESSICA WE DID NOT TAKE ACTION WERE MOVED TO COMMITTEE SINCE WE MOVED ON THE AGENDA CAN I STILL?

>> I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ANSWER. YOU ONLY HELD IT AT THE

DAIS. >> SINCE HE IS HERE NOW? I

WONDER IF WE CAN. >> I THINK AT THIS POINT THE MEETING HAS NOT BEEN ADJOURNED YOU CAN LISTEN TO WHAT HE HAS TO SAY ABOUT THE PROPERTIES. AND THEN I THINK YOU CAN STILL VOTE ON IT AS WELL IF YOU WERE SO INCLINED.

>> OKAY. >> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING, APOLOGIZE, I WAS DOWNSTAIRS , GOT HELD UP, 106 AND LAKESHORE'S WITH A ROUNDABOUT AT THE INTERSECTION SO A CORNER CUT FROM FOUR PROPERTIES, TWO HOMEOWNERS PURCHASED THE PROPERTY WILLINGLY WANTED TO SELL TO US TWO ADDITIONAL HAVE A SMALL CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION

THAT WE NEED FOR THE ROUNDABOUT. >> ARE THEY AWARE OF THIS?

>> NOT YET. >> QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR TAYLOR?

>> THANK YOU. SO YOU WERE IN FRONT OF US BEFORE FOR THE PARCEL WE DID ACQUIRE, IS THAT PARCEL A ON THE MAP? SOUTHWEST

CORNER I BELIEVE? >> YES TWO OF THE FOUR.

>> C IS THE ONE WE OWN? B AND C WE OWN ON THE NORTH SIDE?

>> SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD A AND D.

>> I THOUGHT WE ALREADY OWNED C. >> TWO OF THEM WE OWN NOW.

>> COULD YOU SPEAK OF THE CORNERS?

>> NORTHEAST AND SOUTHEAST. WE HAVE NOT APPROACHED TO PURCHASE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY UNTIL WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE.

THEY ARE AWARE OF THE PROJECT. >> WHERE WE COMING BACK WITH ANOTHER ORDINANCE WHEN WE PASSED ONE FOR D ALREADY IS THAT BECAUSE IT WAS FURTHER IN THE DESIGN AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE OUT

MORE PROPERTY? >> THIS WAS BACK IN FEBRUARY THE LAND-USE COMMITTEE EXPRESSED ONLY BRINGING THINGS ONE AT A TIME VERSUS LARGE GROUPS. SO GENERALLY WE BRING THEM PROJECT BY PROJECT INSTEAD OF ONE PROJECT TWICE , BUT BECAUSE WE HAD A WILLING PROPERTY OWNER WHO SAID CAN YOU PLEASE BUY MY HOUSE BEFORE WE KNEW THE ANSWERS WE SAID YES IN THIS CASE.

>> SO IF THIS IS PASSED YOU WERE SUCCESSFUL IN THE PURCHASE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED OR IS THERE ANOTHER THINK COMING?

>> FOR THIS PROJECT EVERYTHING. >> YOU SAID YOU , NO HOUSES WILL

BE TORN DOWN? >> CORRECT.

>> IS THIS IN THE SUMMER? >> THERE IS SOME SIGNIFICANT UTILITY COMPLICATIONS SO IT IS UNLIKELY THIS SUMMER, DEPENDS ON WHAT AGREEMENT WE WORK OUT WITH, WITH AT& T WHO HAS A SUBSTANTIAL

FIBER NETWORK. >> YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS , THIS ONE PEOPLE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT BECAUSE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, YOU SAID THIS WILL HAVE RAISED CROSSWALKS AND BEGINS AND SOME NEIGHBORS WANTED TO MEET BUT I WILL GET WITH YOU

OFF-LINE. >> IF THIS ORDINANCE PASSES WE WILL HAVE AUTHORITY TO GO APPRAISE PRETTY, CONTACT THEM

NEGOTIATE AND DISCUSS. >> QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL ON

THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT. A MOTION. >> I WOULD MOVE TO INTRODUCE .

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>> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AND

DEBATE? >> I WANT TO CLARIFY IF THIS WAS A HOUSE THIS WOULD BE A MUCH LARGER DISCUSSION. FROM PRELIMINARY LINE WORK YOU HAVE SENT US THIS IS ROUNDING OFF OF

A CORNER AND IT IS ACCURATE. >> CORRECT. IF THAT CHANGES I WILL BRING IT BACK TO YOU. CURRENTLY TO DISPEL SOME OF THE QUESTIONS PEOPLE HAVE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE PROJECT BESIDES 116 AND RIVER WHICH WE APPROACH THAT PROPERTY.

>> OKAY. >> OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH DIRECTOR. ANNOUNCEMENTS. ANY OTHER

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