[1. CALL TO ORDER] [2. AGENDA APPROVAL] [00:00:18] FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS AGENDA APPROVAL. PLEASE VOTE. THIS PASSES. NEXT UP IS OUR INVOCATION LED BY PASTOR BART SHAW OF TRADERS POINT CHRISTIAN CHURCH. >> MUCH HARD WORK IT TAKES-- THERE WE GO. TO MAKE OUR CITY RUN AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL. CARMEL, THE CAMPUS IS CELEBRATING 10 YEARS HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. OUR CHURCH IS ACTUALLY 200 YEARS OLD. WE PREDATE CARMEL BY A FEW YEARS WHICH IS PRETTY UNIQUE AND MAYBE SOME OF YOU KNOW, I ALSO FOUND OUT THE CARMEL WAS ORIGINALLY TITLED BETHLEHEM. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. KIND OF FUN AND KIND OF UNIQUE FOR THE SEASON. YOU KNOW THAT IN THE CHRISTIAN FAITH WE ARE MOVING INTO THE ADVENT SEASON AS OF YESTERDAY SO I THOUGHT IT WAS FITTING WE WOULD MOVE INTO THAT HERE TONIGHT. I WOULD BE HONORED TO PRAY FOR US TONIGHT SO IF YOU WOULD YOUR HEADS, LET'S PRAY. FATHER IN HEAVEN, YOU ARE GOOD. AND BEAUTIFUL IS EVERYTHING YOU'VE MADE. NO MATTER WHAT TAKES PLACE HERE TONIGHT WE ARE FIRST AND FOREMOST HATEFUL THAT AGAIN EACH OF US RECEIVED THE GIFT OF THE BREATH OF LIFE IN OUR LUNGS TODAY, SO THANK YOU. LORD JESUS WHEN YOUR DISCIPLES ASKED YOU HOW TO PRAY YOU GAVE THEM A VERY CLEAR ANSWER, TO ASK THAT YOUR KINGDOM WOULD COME IN YOUR WILL WOULD BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN AND THAT IS MY PRAYER TONIGHT. FOR OUR LEADERS, FOR OUR CITY. YOU GIVE THEM EVERYTHING THEY NEED TONIGHT TO LEAD WELL, TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS, TO USE THE AUTHORITY YOU HAVE GIVEN THEM TO CARE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THEIR CHARGE , THAT YOUR WILL WOULD BE DONE AND THE DECISIONS MADE HERE TONIGHT WOULD HELP RING ABOUT YOUR KINGDOM. YOU ALSO WENT ON TO INSTRUCT US TO PRAY THAT WE WOULD BE FREE FROM TEMPTATION AND DELIVERED FROM EVIL AND I PRAY THAT AS WELL FOR THESE LEADERS TONIGHT, THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING SELFISH OR ULTERIOR MOTIVES, THAT YOU MOVE THOSE ASIDE AND MAY YOUR WILL AND YOUR WAYS ALWAYS PREVAIL HERE. LORD, OUR SOCIETY WAS BUILT UPON FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLES THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US TO LIVE AN ABUNDANT LIFE MARKED WITH LOVE, SHAPED WITH MORALS THAT HELP US OPERATE IN A WAY THAT HONORS YOU AND VALUES OTHERS. MAY THAT BE TRUE HERE TONIGHT. LORD, SHINE BRIGHTLY THROUGH THESE DISCUSSIONS, THESE DECISIONS THAT TAKE PLACE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY. I PRAY ALL THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS WHO WAS BORN IN THAT ORIGINAL LITTLE TOWN OF BETHLEHEM, THAT HE WOULD FREE THE WORLD FROM SIN AND DARKNESS AND RESTORE US BACK INTO RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU. IN HIS NAME, AMEN. THANK YOU, GUYS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> NEXT UP IS PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE STAND. THAT SIDE NOW. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT UP IS RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS. WE HAVE NONE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. NUMBER SIX, RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. I DON'T HAVE A SINGLE BLUE CARD TONIGHT. I KNOW. THAT [7. COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS ] MEANS WERE GOING TO HAVE 50 OF THEM AT THE NEXT MEETING, RIGHT? NEXT UP, COUNCIL AND MAY ORAL COMMENDATION -- COMMENTS AND OBSERVATIONS. MAYOR? >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNSELORS. I AM A SIXTH GRADER AT KLEE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND WILL BE DELIVERING TODAY'S MAY ORAL AND COUNCIL UPDATE. WE HOPE EVERYONE ENJOYED A WONDERFUL THINKS GIVING FILLED WITH FAMILY FRIENDS AND OF COURSE, DELICIOUS FOOD. A LITTLE OVER A WEEK AGO, CARMEL PARKS AND RECREATION ALONG WITH THE MAYOR ADDED BENCHES NEAR MIDTOWN PLAZA TO HELP NEIGHBORS CONNECT. EACH BENCH HAS A SIGN INVITING PEOPLE TO SIT DOWN, TALK , AND MAKE NEW FRIENDS. THIS IDEA STARTED IN THE UNITED KINGDOM AND NOW CARMEL IS JOINING TO MAKE OUR CITY EVEN FRIENDLIER AND BUILD COMMUNITY. THE CHRISTMAS MONTH IS OFFICIALLY OPEN. THERE IS A NEW SHUTTLE SERVICE TO REDUCE PARKING CONGESTION AND THE ICE RINK IS MORE ACCESSIBLE THAN EVER. ASSISTS ARE AVAILABLE ANY TIME THE RINK IS OPEN. THESE AIDS MAKE SURE THAT ANYONE NO MATTER THEIR ABILITY CAN ENJOY SKATING THIS SEASON. SANTA TORS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH DECEMBER 14. YOU CAN SPOT SANTA FROM 5:00 - 8:00 P.M. ON SUNDAYS, WEDNESDAYS AND FRIDAYS WAVING [00:05:03] AND SPREADING HOLIDAY CHEER. TO FIND OUT WHEN SANTA WILL BE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD CHECK THE ROUTES POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. TOMORROW THE DELIGHT OF THE WORLD GIVING MACHINE WILL BE UNVEILED NEAR THE HOTEL CARMICHAEL. THESE SPECIAL MACHINES LET PEOPLE DONATE ITEMS TO HELP THOSE IN NEED WHETHER THEY LIVE NEARBY OR ACROSS THE GLOBE . ONE OF THE FEATURED ORGANIZATIONS THIS HERE IS A CARMEL YOUTH ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WHICH HELPS KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE FACING TOUGH CHALLENGES. THE MAYOR WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO DROP BY ONE GIVING MACHINES IN OUR CITY. THANK YOU. >> GREAT JOB. >> TAMARI ARE WELCOME TO JOIN US AT 10:00 O'CLOCK. THE NEWEST GIVEN LOCATION IS RIGHT NEAR NEXT TO HOTEL CARMICHAEL. I THINK IT'S EXCITING ONE OF OUR OWN CHARITIES IS FEATURED IN IT THIS YEAR AND I GIVE KUDOS TO THE ORGANIZATION, THE CHURCH OF LATTER DAY SAINTS WHO DOES THIS AND OPENS THEIR HEARTS AND MINDS HAVING ONE OF OUR LOCAL CHARITIES FEATURED AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB GETTING THEMSELVES PULLED TOGETHER. RECORD GIVING FOR OUR ORGANIZATION OUT OF THIS EVENT TOMORROW . AND WITH THAT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON AND ALSO MATT I WANT TO THANK YOU AND CITY COUNCIL FOR THE EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION EVENT LAST WEEK AND OUR EMPLOYEES GREATLY APPRECIATE IT SO THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK YOU ALL DID TO MAKE EMPLOYEES FEEL SPECIAL AND VALUED. >> THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR HELPING ME, PUTTING FAITH IN ME TO RUN POINT ON THE APPRECIATION EVENT AND BEING THERE AND BEING SUPPORTIVE . I'VE ONLY GOTTEN POSITIVE FEEDBACK. I HOPE WE STARTED A NEW TRADITION WHICH AS YOU KNOW WE ALL LOVE TRADITIONS AND I HOPE IT GROWS FROM HERE AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE CITY STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS AND BOARD MEMBERS THAT CAME AND PARTICIPATED AND HAD A GOOD TIME. IT WAS HEARTWARMING TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE THERE JUST ENJOYING THE MARKET AND FINALLY, THANK YOU TO THE MARKET, THE BOARD, JULIA, MICHAEL, AND ALL OF THE STAFF AND VENDORS AND EVERYONE WHO PUT THIS ON. ON A REALLY TIGHT BUDGET . OUT OF RESPECT FOR CITY STAFF AND APPRECIATION, AS WELL SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON, APPROVAL OF [8. CONSENT AGENDA ] MINUTES, NOVEMBER 3, 2005 EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NOVEMBER 17, 2025 REGULAR MEETING. AND, CLAIMS. PAYROLL IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,123,523.74, AND CPD PHYSICAL ASSESSMENT PAYOUT, $151,849.43 . AND GENERAL CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,660,923.06 . DO I HAVE A MOTION? COUNSELOR LOCKE? >> THIS GOES JUST TO KIND OF OUTSTANDING ISSUE. I WOULD ASK TO AMEND THE CLAIMS TONIGHT TO REMOVE FOUR LINE ITEMS. TWO FOUR DEGREE DRINK OR-- IN THE AMOUNT OF $13,480.65, AND THE OTHER IN $20,000 AND TWO LINE ITEMS FOR TASK--. 14 $32,863 AND THE OTHER FOR 200,000-- AND THE GOAL IS TO GIVE LEGAL MORE TIME ABOUT GIVING US INFORMATION WITH THESE ARE FOR. MORE INPUT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE CLAIMS PACKAGE. DON'T HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE ARE SPENDING ON . WOULD JUST LIKE MORE INFORMATION BEFORE I FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING . THE GOAL IS TO AMEND THIS TO REMOVE THOSE AND GET MORE INFORMATION TO BRING THIS BACK AT A LATER COUNCIL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A MOTION AND SECOND, CONVERSATION. ZACH I HAD A QUESTION. IF WE DIDN'T PAY IT AT THIS MEETING IT IS GETTING ENCUMBERED, CORRECT? >> TECHNICALLY JUST BECAUSE OF HOW OUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM WORKS, IN ORDER FOR IT TO POP UP ON THE CLAIMS REPORT WE RUN IT THROUGH THE ACCOUNTING SYSTEM AND LITERALLY ARE HOLDING A CHECK RIGHT NOW WAITING TO MAIL IT UNTIL COUNCIL GETS US THE OKAY. SO FROM THAT TIMING PERSPECTIVE, IT'S STILL THERE. >> COUNSELOR SNYDER? [00:10:03] >> KEENLY AWARE OF WHAT IS SURROUNDING BUT MAYBE CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THE TAFT ONE? >> GOOD EVENING, COUNSELORS. THE TAFT BILLS ARE RELATED TO THE CASE THAT WAS FINALIZED I'M GOING TO SAY BACK IN MAY PERHAPS . THERE WAS A PETITION TO THE SUPREME COURT WHICH WAS DENIED. THOSE BILLS ACTUALLY WERE FROM FEBRUARY AND MARCH BUT TAFT NEGLECTED TO SEND THEM, SO WE ARE APPROVING THEM NOW. >> IS THAT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY? >> LOCAL INCOME TAX. >> COUNSELOR GREEN? >> WHO ASKED YOU TO DO THAT? WHEN YOU MADE THE MOTION YOU SAID YOU WERE ASKED TO LINE THEM OUT. >> I LINED THEM OUT >> YOU ARE NOT ASKED. >> ANY OTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT THE MOTION? IF NOT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE MOTION TO AMEND CLAIMS. COUNCILOR? >> EVEN THOUGH WE NOW KNOW WHAT THE TAFT BILLS ARE FOR, YOU ARE STILL VOTING TO-- >> YOU CAN ASK TO AMEND THE MOTION. >> MY THOUGHT IS THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DETAILS.IT SAYS THAT AT THE TOP JUST TO GIVE MORE TIME IF IT COMES BACK AND THERE'S INFORMATION ON WHAT THAT IS. THESE ARE BILLS FROM MARCH AND APRIL THAT SHOW UP IN THE PACKET SO WAITING ANOTHER MEETING TO GET MORE INFORMATION IF THERE IS MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE . >> I JUST HAPPENED TO BE PERSONALLY KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE TAFT ONE. I KNEW WHAT THAT WAS FOR. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY PUSHBACK ON THAT BUT THEY TOOK THIS LONG TO BILL IT AND WE HAVE A COUNCILOR THAT WANTS MORE INFORMATION, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO NOT GIVE YOU THAT REQUEST AND GET THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SEEK. THERE DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A RUSH ON BEHALF OF THE VENDOR . >> FOR ANYONE WATCHING, THE FUNDS ARE STILL ENCUMBERED, IT DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE PAYMENT FROM BEING APPROVED AT A LATER MEETING. I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO VOTE AND I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND VOTE. WE KEEP TALKING DURING IT. >> THE AMENDMENT PASSES 7- 1 AND NOW WE ARE WORKING WITH AMENDED CLAIMS AND MINUTES. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED. >> COUNCILOR SNYDER? >> SAME. SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. MOSTLY WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE REASON BEHIND ALL OF THIS AND GETTING TOO DEEP AT THE MOMENT, IT SEEMS WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS A WHILE BACK WITH THE INDIANA BAR AND THE NATIONAL BAR ASSOCIATION SAYS BEST PRACTICES IS 30 DAYS. SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP ENCOURAGE TO SUBMIT THE BILL IN A MORE TIMELY MANNER. IT JUST HELPS WITH CASH FLOW ALTOGETHER. I'M TAKING THE SUBSTANCE OF ALL OF THIS OUT AS A PROCESS OF LEGAL BILLINGS. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING ABOUT. >> GENERALLY WE DO RECEIVE BILLS MONTHLY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION. THEY WERE SENT TO US AND WE WERE TOLD THEY WERE MISSED WHEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY BILLED. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A COMMON ISSUE BUT THESE TWO WERE DEFINITELY MISSED. WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND MADE SURE THEY WERE NOT DOUBLE BILLED OR ANYTHING. >> WE'VE ENGAGED MANY LAW FIRMS AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MOST LAW FIRMS DO BECAUSE THEY WANT PAID. >> THEY DO. AND OFTEN TIMES IT'S IN THEIR ENGAGEMENT LETTER THAT THEY WILL BILL MONTHLY. ANY OTHER CONVERSATION? YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, RIGHT? GO AHEAD AND VOTE. THAT PASSES. COMMITTEE REPORTS. COUNCILOR TAYLOR? >> LAND-USE AND SPECIAL STUDIES [10.b. Land Use and Special Studies Committee ] COMMITTEE . >> THANK YOU. THIS COMING [00:15:01] WEDNESDAY WHICH IS THE THIRD WE WILL MEET IN OUR REGULAR SPOT AND THE AGENDA ITEM ALTHOUGH THERE WILL BE OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, THE ITEM OF DISCUSSION WILL BE THE US - 31 SUB AREA PLANE. THAT WILL BE WHAT IS DISCUSSED AND WILL BE THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION. I EXPECT THAT TO DOMINATE THE ALLOWABLE TIME THAT WE HAVE IN THE LIBRARY . IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN THAT 5 :30 , PUBLIC LIBRARY ON THE BOARD ROOM IN THE SECOND FLOOR. [11.a. Carmel Redevelopment Commission (Monthly) ] >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. MOVING ON TO OTHER REPORTS. MONTHLY REPORT FROM THE CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, I WILL BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE COMMISSION ACTIVITIES FOR THE LAST MONTH. CITY CENTER CONTINUES ITS BUILDOUT . YOU CAN SEE OUR WONDERFUL IMAGERY HAS BEEN UPDATED WITH MARKET ACTIVITIES IN FRONT OF THE WINDSOR BUILDING. LOTS OF WORK GOING ON SQUARE NORTH WHERE WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE THIS BUILDING GET FLOORS OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS SO THIS IS REALLY COOL STUFF. MAGNOLIA UNITS CONTINUE TO BE BUILT OUT. THE SUSHI PLACE HERE IN THE RETAIL OF THE MUSES NOW OPEN. PLEASE GIVE IT A TRY. -- HAVE SOLD AT LEAST 20 OF THEM SO THEY ARE DOING GREAT. CROSSING CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES ON THE HEADQUARTERS ON A HOTEL THAT WRAPS THE GARAGE SO THAT IS ONGOING . THREE WE ARE STILL REVIEWING. I SUSPECT A VERSION OF THIS MIGHT BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW. I'LL HAVE MORE ON THAT LATER. 93 - 33 LOUNGES OPEN. THIS IS THE YEAR WHERE WE SHOULD SEE A LOT OF PROGRESS AND THIS SHOULD OPEN UP THIRD QUARTER NEXT YEAR. IF YOU HAD THE CHANCE TO DRIVE SELF , YOU CAN SEE INTO THE GLASS ATRIUM. IT'S REALLY COOL. THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD SUMMARY OF THE MONTH'S ACTIVITIES AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE. >> QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? COUNCILOR SNYDER? >> AT WHAT STAGE DO YOU BRING PROJECTS TO US? REFRESH ME. WE HEAR MURMURS OF IDEAS AND THOUGHTS AND DIDN'T KNOW, WHEN DO THEY BECOME POWERPOINT WORTHY? >> SURE. GENERALLY STAFF TRIES TO WORK THROUGH A PROJECT TO GET TO A POINT WHERE THERE CAN BE A REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION CAN HAVE A TERM SHEET WHICH MEANS THAT THERE'S A GOOD MEETING OF THE MINDS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER AND THE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT. THAT IS USUALLY WHEN WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR BOND APPROVAL AND DISCUSS THAT OBJECT. BY THE TIME WE TAKE THAT TO CITY COUNCIL IT MEANS A NUMBER OF THE DIRECTORS AND OTHER PEOPLE, OTHER VESTED INTERESTS GOING TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAVE HAD AN INTERACTION WITH THE PROJECT SO WE CAN MAKE SURE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED WHEN WE BRING THAT TO CITY COUNCIL. AFTER CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE PROJECT, THE BOND FOR THE PROJECT IS WHEN IT GOES ON TO THE POWERPOINT AS THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN PROJECTS PASS BOND APPROVAL SLOW DOWN SO THEY GET REMOVED OFF THE POWERPOINT. THE CONCOURSE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT BUT GENERALLY WHEN A PROJECT IS IN A TERM SHEET PROJECT AGREEMENT STAGES WHEN IT'S FEATURED ON THE POWERPOINT. >> THANK YOU. I THINK IT CHANGED NAMES, SIGNATURE 55? >> I SKIPPED THAT ONE. THAT'S ON ME. IT'S NOW CALLED THE HERON CLUB. THAT IS THE NEW NAME OF THIS PROJECT AND I CHECKED IN WITH ARCHITECT TODAY ON IT. I THINK THE CITY AND PARKS AND THE DEVELOPER ARE ALL TEAM WORKING AND ENGINEERING RIGHT NOW. I HEAR POSITIVE THINGS. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILOR LOCKE? >> I'VE RECEIVED A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT STUFF UP THERE AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE ARE [00:20:05] UP DATES YOU CAN GIVE LOOK WE ON WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE WORKS OR HOW THINGS ARE GOING. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. I'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO RESPOND TO SEVERAL OF THESE INQUIRIES. THERE IS A SECRET BUYER THAT'S TALKING TO CLAY TERRACE RIGHT NOW. IF YOU THINK ABOUT CLAY TERRACE IT'S KIND OF TWO THINGS. CLAY TERRACE IS A CURRENT OUTDOOR LIFESTYLE CENTER WITH SHOPS SO IT'S A RETAIL OPERATION AND CLAY TERRACE ALSO HAS A LARGE PROJECT THAT IS YET TO BE DEVELOPED SO IT'S A LARGE REDEVELOPMENT PLAY. THERE IS A BUYER THAT CAN TAKE ON BOTH DAY TODAY ACTIVE MANAGEMENT OF RETAIL AND TAKE ON THE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT. WE ARE GUESSING THAT TRANSACTION HAPPENS TOWARDS THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF 26 MEANING THAT HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO BRING A PROJECT IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL BY SECOND QUARTER. THIS WAS LARGE TRANSACTIONS SO THEY TAKE MONTHS TO HAMMER OUT AND CLOSE. >> SO, DIRECTOR, WE HAVE AT THE LAST CRC MEETING, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A VOTE THAT WAS NOT UNANIMOUS AT A CRC MEETING BUT WE HAD A SPLIT VOTE. DID YOU WANT TO FILL IN COUNCIL ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING THERE? >> THIS YEAR THE COMMISSION HAS MET AT 6:30 IN THE EVENINGS . THERE HAD BEEN A CONVERSATION ABOUT MOVING THOSE TWO 4:00 P.M. DURING THE DAY . NOT LAST WEDNESDAY BUT THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE THAT WAS A REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING SO COUNCILOR AASEN BROUGHT UP THE 4:00 O'CLOCK VERSUS 6 :30 TIME FRAMES AND THE COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSED IT AT THE DAIS. ULTIMATELY THERE WAS A 2 - 2 VOTE AND IT WAS MOVED TO HAVE MEETINGS HAPPEN AT 6:DIRTY NEXT YEAR . THAT VOTE FAILED 2 - 2. I WANT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT THERE. SO GENERALLY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETINGS ARE SPARSELY ATTENDED . THERE IS ALMOST NEVER ANYBODY THERE AND FOR A VAST MAJORITY OF ACTION ITEMS THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT OR INTERACTIONS, JUST THE NATURE OF WHAT WE TAKE ON. SO RARELY DO PEOPLE COME TO COMMISSION MEETINGS AND IT CERTAINLY MADE SENSE TO HAVE THEM HAPPEN AT 4:00 P.M. NEXT YEAR WHICH WILL SAVE US OPERATING COSTS AND SOME OTHER THINGS. I DO WANT TO GIVE SOME CAVEATS TO THAT . THERE ARE TIMES WHERE WE VOTE FOR LIKE AN ALLOCATION AREA THAT HAS BY STATUTE, A PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION. NOTE THAT BY THE TIME AN ALLOCATION AREA VOTE COMES TO CRC, IT MEANS THE SAME ALLOCATION AREA QUESTION WAS JUST AT CITY COUNCIL TWO OR THREE WEEKS PRIOR . CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSED, DEBATED , PROBABLY SENT TO A FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING -- >> SO TO BE CLEAR YOU ARE ADVOCATING FOR THE 4:00 O'CLOCK TIME? >> THAT'S RIGHT. SO THE OVERALL POINT IS RARELY DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY COME TO CRC MEETINGS. THEY ARE ALL RECORDED AND TELEVISED . MOST OF THE TIME CRC TAKES ANY ACTION THAT IS RELATED TO SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY ACTED ON OR BEEN IN THE NEWSPAPER AND I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT AT TIMES WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING, WE WILL HAVE THOSE MEETINGS WHERE THERE'S THE CHANCE FOR COORDINATION. WE WILL STILL HAVE THOSE LATER IN THE DAY EVEN IF WE MOVE GENERAL MEETINGS TO 4 :30. IN DECEMBER THERE'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC MEETING THAT TAKES PLACE AT 6:00 P.M. PRIOR TO THE MAIN CRC MEETING THAT HAS BEEN NOTICED. MEETINGS LIKE THAT WE WOULD STILL HOLD AT 6:00 P.M. BUT GENERALLY-- >> THAT WAS NOT DISCUSSED AT OUR MEETING. THIS IS THE FIRST I AM HEARING THAT WE WILL KEEP SOME MEETINGS AT 6:00 O'CLOCK AND I AM A COMMISSIONER. >> CERTAIN MEETINGS THAT ARE NOTICED WHERE THERE IS PUBLIC INPUT WE CAN HAVE THAT CASE-BY-CASE CONVERSATION. >> SO WE'VE CHANGED THE POLICY. >> THE INTENT IS TO HAVE 4:00 O'CLOCK MEETINGS . THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO NOTE IS WHAT DETERMINES WHETHER A MEETING, A [00:25:05] REDEVELOPMENT MEETING IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE OR NOT IS WHEN THREE COMMISSIONERS AHEAD OF TIME COMMIT TO HAVE A QUORUM AT THAT MEETING. >> I LOOKED IN STATE LAW AND THAT'S NOT WHAT STATE LAW SAYS. HAVE YOU CONFIRMED THAT WITH OUR ATTORNEY AND SERGEI CONFIRMED THAT AS WELL. >> WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DISAGREE ON OUR INTERPRETATIONS. >> IT WAS YOUR ATTORNEYS THAT SAID THE HOURS CAN BE SET BY THE CRC. >> YES THE HOURS MAY BE SET BY THE CRC, THAT'S CORRECT, BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS, THE CRC MAY VOTE TO SET HOURS TO 6:00 P.M. OR ANY OTHER TIME AND THE SECOND I HAVE THREE COMMISSIONERS AGREEING TO A QUORUM OF ALL FOLLOWING MEETING THAT'S WHAT SETS THAT MEETING. ONLY QUORUM NOTICE DETERMINES WHEN A FUTURE MEETING TAKES PLACE, NOT ANY PRIOR VOTES. I JUST WANT THAT NOTED. >> THAT'S NOT WHAT STATE LAW SAYS. OUR OWN CITY ATTORNEYS ARE AGREEING WITH ME. SERGEI IS CONFIRMING THIS . >> REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION USES ITS OWN ATTORNEYS . >> COUNCILOR SNYDER? >> I DIDN'T WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS TONIGHT BUT A COUPLE THINGS. ONE, I DO NOT LIKE WHEN OPINIONS ARE PASSED OFF AS FAX. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY AS A BLANKET STATEMENT THAT MONEY WILL BE SAVED. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT AND YOU'RE NOT COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES. NONE OF US KNOW THIS. I'M NOT DINGING THE ADMINISTRATION OR US, IT JUST IS NOT BEEN THOROUGHLY VETTED YET. TWO, YOU TALK ABOUT SAVING MONEY AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO BE BILLING OUR ATTORNEY MORE AND TAKING UP SERGEI'S TIME TO CONFER WITH NOW YOUR ATTORNEY WHO CANNOT READ THE LAW. IT'S INTERESTING HOW OUR ATTORNEYS ARE GREAT WHEN IT FITS YOUR NEEDS BUT THEN WHEN YOU DISAGREE WITH THEM YOU'VE GOT YOUR OWN ATTORNEY. >> RYAN DID NOT DISAGREE WITH THAT INTERPRETATION AT THE MEETING SO UNLESS HE HAS CHANGED HIS OPINION HE GAVE THAT WE CAN SET OUR OWN HOURS. >> MY OPINIONS ON THE MERITS OF MEETING CHANGE HAVE BEEN STATED. I DO HAVE CONCERNS THOUGH ABOUT HAVING DIFFERENT MEETING TIMES. CONSISTENCY IS KEY, I BELIEVE. IT'S THE THIRD WEDNESDAY SO IF IT ENDS UP BEING 4:00 O'CLOCK WHICH MY OPINION IS OUT THERE, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE. WHICH, TO COUNCILOR AASEN'S POINT I SEE BEING A CHALLENGE SHOULD YOU HAVE PUBLIC INPUT BUT THAT IS FOR Y'ALL TO FIGURE OUT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT HENRY I TRUST EVERY WORD THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR MOUTH WHETHER I AGREE WITH IT OR NOT, I JUST DON'T LIKE WHEN OPINIONS ARE PASSED OFF AS FAX. >> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE COUNCIL? OKAY. >> THE 19TH READING OF ORDINANCE [12.a. Nineteenth Reading of Ordinance D-2762-25; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending Chapter 8, Article 5, Sections 8-37, 8-47, and 8-48 of the Carmel City Code; Sponsor: Councilor Aasen. Remains in the Land Use and Special Studies Committee. ] D 2762 - 25. AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF [12.b. Fourteenth Reading of Ordinance D-2772-25; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Adopting a New Article 8 Under Chapter 2 of the Carmel City Code; Sponsor(s): Councilor(s) Aasen, Ayers, Minnaar, Snyder and Worrell. Remains in the Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee. ] CARMEL INDIANA AMENDING CHAPTER 8, ARTICLE 5, SECTIONS EIGHT THROUGH 37, EIGHT THROUGH 47, AND A 248 OF THE CARMEL CITY CODE. THE 14TH READING OF ORDINANCE D - 2772 - 25. AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA ADOPTING A NEW ARTCLE 8 UNDER CHAPTER 2 OF THE CARMEL CITY CODE SPONSORS ARE COUNCILOR AASEN , AYERS, MINNAAR SNYDER AND WORRELL. THIS REMAINS IN THE FINANCE UTILITIES AND RULES COMMITTEE. ANY MOTION ON THE TALK OF THAT ORDINANCE? >> WE HAVE HELD IT UNTIL FURTHER DIRECTION FROM YOU. FOR THE NONPROFIT ORDINANCE? >> AM I THE ONE HOLDING IT UP? I'M SORRY. >> THAT'S WHY WE BEEN HOLDING IT. WE HAVEN'T HAD DIRECTION TO MOVE IT SO WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED IT AT ALL IN ANY MEETING. SINCE IT WAS FIRST INTRODUCED. >> WHILE I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE BUT I AM NOT HOLDING IT UP AT ALL. SO IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT ORDINANCE GO AHEAD. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE WERE LEAVING THIS OUT HERE UNTIL WE DETERMINE THE FINAL STRUCTURE OF THE MARKET BOARD AND THOSE NEGOTIATIONS. >> COUNCILOR LOCKE? >> YES. WE ARE WAITING FOR THE OUTPUTS OF THE REVIEW COMMITTEE IN THE MARKET INVESTIGATION TO [00:30:07] DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A NECESSARY CHANGE. >> THAT SOUNDS FINE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING ON MY END. >> WE ARE JUST DOING THE RIGHT [12.c. Fourth Reading of Ordinance D-2795-25; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Establishing Public Areas of City Hall; Sponsor: Councilor Snyder. Remains in the Land Use and Special Studies Committee.] THING. >> I'M SORRY, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. ALL RIGHT. THE FOURTH READING OF ORDINANCE D - 2795 - [12.d. Resolution CC-11-17-25-03; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving an Amendment to the Carmel Comprehensive Plan to Incorporate a new Subarea Plan for the US-31 Corridor; Sponsor: Councilor Minnaar. Remains in the Land Use and Special Studies Committee. ] 25, AN ORDINANCE OF COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA ESTABLISHING PUBLIC AREAS OF CITY HALL. SPONSOR IS CANCER SNYDER. THIS REMAINS IN THE LAND-USE AND SPECIAL SUIT IS -- SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE. WE ALSO HAVE CC-11-17-25-03 WHICH IS A RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF CARMEL, INDIANA APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE CARMEL COUNTRY HAS A PLAN TO [13.a. First Reading of Ordinance D-2800-25; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Authorizing and Approving an Additional Appropriation from the Local Road and Street Fund (#202); Sponsor: Councilor Aasen. ] INCORPORATE A NEW SUBAREA PLAN FOR THE US - 31 CORRIDOR. SPONSOR IS COUNCILOR MINNAAR. THIS REMAINS IN THE LAND-USE AND SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GET TO PUBLIC HEARINGS. FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D-2800-25. AND ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA AUTHORIZE AND APPROVING AN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION FROM THE LOCAL ROAD AND STREET FUND NUMBER 202. SPONSOR IS COUNCILOR AASEN. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO INTRODUCE? COUNCILOR TAYLOR WOULD YOU READ THE SYNOPSIS? >> THIS ORDINANCE APPROPRIATE'S FUNDS TO COVER COSTS WITHIN THE LOCAL ROAD AND STREET FUND NUMBER 202. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT? >> ZACH JACKSON, CITY CFO AND COMPTROLLER. IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS SECTION OF 13 A, THAT MATCHES UP WITH 14 A IN NEW BUSINESS. ESSENTIALLY WE'VE RECEIVED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT LOT GRANTS -- BLOCK GRANTS TOTALING $429,272 FOR NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN ALMOND AND NEWARK NEIGHBORHOODS. WE ARE ESSENTIALLY TAKING GRANT DOLLARS OUT OF THE GRANT FUND, PUTTING THEM INTO THE LOCAL ROAD AND STREET FUND WHICH IS THE TRANSFER LATER ON BUT THIS IS THE APPROPRIATION OF THOSE DOLLARS ONCE THEY ARE THERE AND BRAD IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT ITSELF. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? >> I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BREAKDOWN OF THE GRANT WILL BE AND HOW YOU INTEND TO USE THAT IN THE PROJECTS. >> THAT GRANT MONEY HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT AS A REIMBURSEMENT BACK TO THE PROJECT. IT'S A STORM WATER AND SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. >> SO IT WAS STORM WATER? >> AND STORM -- AND SIDEWALK. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. >> IT WAS A DITCH AND SIDEWALK PROJECT ON ALMOND. >> SO KIND OF INVOLVED IN THAT, IS THERE MORE WORK TO BE DONE OVER THERE OR DO YOU CONSIDER THE PROJECT COMPLETE? >> THE PROJECT IN ITS CURRENT ITERATION IS COMPLETE. THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL SO WE ARE TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AT A THIRD PHASE ON THE NEXT STREET OVER THAT DOESN'T HAVE SIDEWALK OBVIOUSLY, AS WELL AS CHANGES TO SOME OF THE DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE SO WE ARE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT. >> BUT ALL MAILBOXES ARE IN? >> THERE'S A COUPLE OF CUSTOM ORDER ONES THAT HAVE SOME SUPPLY ISSUES THAT WE ARE STILL WAITING ON, I THINK. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR SNYDER? >> ARE WE STILL APPLYING FOR THOSE GRANTS? >> WE ARE. THE CDBG IS AN AUTOMATIC ONE FROM HUD . >> BUT WHEN YOU GO TO APPLY IT SAYS THE GRANTS ARE FOR LOW INCOME , FOR SLUMS , AND FOR IMMEDIATE AND EMERGENCY REPAIRS FROM THE -- FOR THE WELFARE OF PEOPLE. SO HOW ARE WE JUSTIFYING THAT IN THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD? >> IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT WE GET THIS GRANT SO IT SORT OF STACKS UP YEAR-OVER-YEAR AND WE DON'T GET IT FOR A LONG TIME AND THEN WE QUALIFY AT SOME POINT. IT'S NOT LIKELY WE WILL GET THAT AGAIN . >> I UNDERSTAND THIS MONEY HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT. WE GOT THIS HOW MANY YEARS AGO? I MEAN THIS MONEY HAS BEEN SITTING IN THAT ACCOUNT-- >> AGAIN YOU GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND IT ADDS UP OVER TIME UNTIL IT CAN BECOME USEFUL AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY USE IT FOR A PROJECT. >> THANK YOU. >> QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? IF NOT I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:30 5 PM AND FIVE SECONDS. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE PODIUM. NOT SEEING ANYONE GET UP, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:35 P.M. . DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ORDINANCE? [00:35:04] >> ENTER INTO ACTION. >> PLEASE VOTE. WE CAN'T PUSH IT. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. IT NEEDS TO BE UNANIMOUS. NOW WE CAN ACT ON THIS THIS EVENING. MOTION TO GET IT APPROVED? >> SO MOVED. >> PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES. [13.b. First Reading of Ordinance D-2801-25; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Authorizing and Approving an Additional Appropriation of $258,981.00 from the 2024 General Obligation Bond Fund (#410); Sponsor(s): Councilor(s) Taylor and Snyder.] MOVING ON, FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D-2801-25, AND ORDINANCE OF THE, COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA AUTHORIZE AND APPROVING AN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION OF $258,981 FROM THE 22 FOR GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUND NUMBER 410. SPONSORS ARE COUNCILOR TAYLOR AND SNYDER. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO INTRODUCE? >> SECOND. >> WOULD YOU READ THE SYNOPSIS? >> THIS ORDINANCE APPROPRIATES FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE REMAINING BOND OF PAYMENT FROM THE 2024 GENERAL OBLIGATION FUND . AS PART OF THE ADOPTED 2025 CITY OF CARMEL BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE 2024 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUND WERE ADOPTED AT $2,694,294 FOLLOWING DEPARTMENT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT FINANCE REVIEW AND CERTIFICATION, THE APPROPRIATION WAS CERTIFIED AT A LOWER AMOUNT OF $2,435,313. >> SACK WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT? >> THANK YOU. SO NUMBER 13 B MATCHES UP TO AN EXTENT WITH 14 E IN NEW BUSINESS. HOWEVER I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL TO HOLD THAT ONE UNTIL NEXT MEETING AND HOPEFULLY WILL NOT BE NECESSARY AT ALL. 13 B AS THE SYNOPSIS DESCRIBED , WHENEVER WE SUBMIT , WHEN COUNCIL APPROVES THE BUDGET THE NEXT STEP IS THAT MY DEPARTMENT SUBMITS IT FOR REVIEW AND CERTIFICATION. THEY GIVE US FEEDBACK ON SOMETHING CALLED A 1782 NOTICE. LAST YEAR WHEN COUNCIL APPROVED THE BUDGET IT INCLUDED FUNDING FOR THE 2024 GEO BOND FUND ON OUR SIDE OF THINGS. DL GF LOOKED AT THAT AND THE 1782 NOTICE PULLED THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. I COULDN'T REALLY TELL YOU WHY. I'M ASSUMING IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THE THAT WAS ISSUED AFTER THE BUDGET PASSED AND IT WAS PROBABLY JUST TOO MUCH IN THE INTEREST COLUMN VERSUS THE PRINCIPAL COLUMN. ANYWAY THEY ASKED US TO TRUE UP OUR BUDGET. WE DID THIS LAST YEAR FOR THE GENERAL FUND. THIS YEAR THE ONLY THING WE NEED IS THIS APPROPRIATION. WE NEED TO GROW IT BY $250,000 AMOUNT TO THE NEW AMOUNT HERE. THE TRANSFER RESOLUTION I AM ASKING YOU TO HOLD IS ESSENTIALLY JUST IN CASE NEXT WEEK THE PROPERTY TAX AMOUNT AND DISTRIBUTION THAT WE GET IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO COVER THIS BOND PAYMENT. THERE'S NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT IT WILL NOT BUT IF IT DOESN'T THAT'S OUR ONLY RELEASE VALVE TO MOVE MONEY INTO PLACE IN TERMS OF HOW YEAR END TIMING STACKS UP . BEFORE YOU TODAY IS SIMPLY FOR DL GF COMPLIANCE. IT IS BASICALLY , COUNCIL APPROVED A BUDGET OF 2.694 AND CHANGE LAST YEAR. THEY SAID NOPE, IT'S 2.4 AND WE ARE SAYING NOPE, IT SHOULD BE 2.69. >> ANY QUESTIONS? WITH THAT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:30 9 PM AND 30 SECONDS. ANYONE PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE PODIUM. NOT SEEING ANYONE MOVE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:39 AND 39 SECONDS. DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ORDINANCE? >> MOVED TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND ENTER INTO ACTION. >> SECOND? >> MOVED AND SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE . NEEDS TO BE UNANIMOUS. WE CAN ACT ON THIS THIS EVENING. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> PLEASE VOTE. NEXT UP HIS [13.c. First Reading of Ordinance Z-702-25; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Updating the Filing Fees Section in the Unified Development Ordinance Related to Zoning and Development Applications and for Permits and Inspections; Sponsor(s): Councilor(s) Minnaar, Joshi, Ayers and Snyder. ] [00:40:01] FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE Z-702-25, AND ORDINANCE OF THE, COUNCIL IN THIS CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA UPDATING THE FILING FEES SECTION OF THE UNIFI DEVELOP AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS AND FOR PERMITS AND IT'S PICTURES. SPARK-- AND INSPECTIONS. SPONSORS ARE COUNCILOR MINNAAR, JOSHI AND SNYDER. TO I HAVE A MOTION TO INTRODUCE? >> THIS ORDINANCE AMENDS THE FILING FEES IN ARTICLE 1 SECTION 1.29 OF THE UNIFI DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. >> DIRECTOR? >> COUNCIL THAT EVENING. DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES . BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A PROPOSAL TO AMEND THE YOU DL OF SECTION 1.29 WHICH IS THE FILING FEES SECTION. THE PROPOSAL WILL INCREASE FEES THAT HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN UPDATED COMPREHENSIVELY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND THOSE FEES ARE THE BASE FEES, THE BASE PERMIT FEES, ACE APPLICATION FEES . IT UPDATES ACREAGE AND SQUARE FOOTAGE FEES . WE ALSO ARE ADDING SOME NEW SERVICES SUCH AS A P.U.D. TEXT AMENDMENT JUST KIND OF DIALING THINGS IN TO HOW WE DO BUSINESS TODAY VERSUS WHEN THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE OCCURRED IN 2003. ALSO ADDING SOME NEW PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS. AS I MENTIONED THIS IS THE FIRST COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENT SINCE 2003. THERE IS A CONSUMER PRICE INDEX ESCALATOR THAT WE HAVE KEPT PACE WITH INFLATION OVER THE YEARS BUT WE'VE ALSO, THE NATURE OF HIS NEWS HAS CHANGED SINCE 2003 AND REALLY SINCE COVID WHERE WE ARE SEEING LESS LARGE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND MORE HOME PROJECTS AND SMALLER BOUTIQUE TYPE PROJECTS. WE ARE TRYING TO ADJUST FOR THAT . THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS ON NOVEMBER 4 AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, THERE WAS NO ONE THERE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST AN WE'VE RECEIVED NO WRITTEN COMMENTS. WE KEPT THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND ALLOWING FOR ADDITIONAL INPUT ON NOVEMBER 18 AND AGAIN NO ONE SHOWED UP TO SPEAK AND THERE WAS NO WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE. ON THE 18TH , THE COMMISSION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. IN THE COUNCIL MEMO , WE HAVE NOTED THAT THE EXPIRATION DATE IS FEBRUARY 17 SO WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO WORK ON THIS. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS ALREADY WENT TO PLAN COMMISSION SO WE WOULD NOT BE SENDING THIS BACK. NORMALLY ITEMS THAT ORIGINATE IN PLAN COMMISSION WOULD GO TO COMMITTEE BUT AS I UNDERSTAND THE LAND USE COMMITTEE, THIS IS COMING FROM THE UGO REVIEW, CORRECT? YES GO AHEAD. >> LET ME CLARIFY THAT. IN AN EDUCATIONAL SESSION, AT THE END , IT WAS BY THE WAY HERE'S A DRAFT OF WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON AND WE WERE HANDED THE DRAFT UPDATE . WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THIS . >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THERE WAS NO MEETING TO DISCUSS THIS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS ALTHOUGH I CAN SAY THAT I HAVE READ THROUGH IT SEVERAL TIMES AND IT'S HARD TO IMPRESS ME ANY MORE, BUT WELL DONE. >> DO YOU WANT-- NOT A RUSH ON IT-- >> I DON'T THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ANY INTELLIGENCE TO OFFER THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT VETTED. THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, I THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP TWO YEARS AGO . >> WE CAN DEFINITELY DISCUSS IT . I DON'T THINK WE WILL HAVE ADDED VALUE TO IT. >> FIRST OFF WE WILL DO A VOTE WHETHER WE WANT TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND ACT ON IT AND WHETHER THIS WAS HELD AT THE DAIS FOR COUNCILOR TO HOLD FOR REVIEW OR GO TO COMMITTEE. >> WOULD IT TAKE AFFECT -- YOU SAID THE DEADLINE IS FEBRUARY BUT WOULD IT BE BETTER IF IT TOOK EFFECT JANUARY 1? >> THE DEVELOPMENT FEES WOULD TAKE AFFECT JANUARY 1 BUT THERE'S A 90 DAY COOLING OFF PERIOD ON BUILDING AND INSPECTION FEES AS PER STATE LAW. SO THE SOONER WE CAN GET IT APPROVED THE BETTER BUT REALLY WE WERE NOT PREPARED TO KIND OF GO AROUND THE COMMITTEE PROCESS IF COUNCIL WANTED TO DISCUSS ANY OF THESE OR NEEDED A LITTLE MORE [00:45:05] TIME TO DIGEST. >> COUNCILOR LOCKE? >> MY THOUGHT IS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT SINCE IT'S BEEN THE FIRST TIME ON THE AGENDA HERE, GIVEN THE PUBLIC TIME TO REVIEW AND AT LEAST COMING BACK HERE TO THIS BODY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK THAT WANTS TO COME THROUGH SEEMS GOOD TO ME. >> THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS GETTING IT. WE WILL HOLD THIS AT THE DAIS. >> DO YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN COMMITTEE THAT WAY IF ANYONE HAS AN ISSUE THEY CAN COME ON WEDNESDAY AND MAKE A COMMENT? >> IF IT'S SENT TO COMMITTEE YOU WILL EITHER HAVE TO VOTE IT OUT OR YOU CAN PULL IT OUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON IT THAT WE CAN SEND IT TO COMMITTEE SUITS AVAILABLE TO BE DISCUSSED ON WEDNESDAY. COUNCIL CAN REVIEW IT AS WELL. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS THOUGH? THIS COMMITTEE AND IT WILL EITHER BE VOTED OUT OR PULLED OUT FOR THE NEXT MEETING. I DO HAVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, THOUGH. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPENED AT 6:40 6 PM AND 30 SECONDS. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. NOT SEEING ANYONE MOVE. YOU CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:46 AND 42 SECONDS AND FOR ANYONE WATCHING YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK EITHER AT LAND-USE ON WEDNESDAY OR OF COURSE YOU CAN FILL OUT A BLUE [14.a. Resolution CC-12-01-25-01; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving a Transfer of Funds from the Grant Fund (#900) into Local Road and Street Fund (#202); Sponsor: Councilor Aasen.] CARD AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. MOVING ON FROM THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WE WILL START NEW BUSINESS. RESOLUTION CC-12-01-25-02 , A RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCIL THE CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA APPROVING A TRANSFER OF FUNDS FROM THE GRANT FUND NUMBER 900 INTO LOCAL ROAD AND STREET FUND, NUMBER 202. SPONSOR IS COUNCILOR AASEN. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO INTRODUCE? SECOND. >> WOULD YOU READ THE SYNOPSIS? >> TRANSFERS $429,272 FROM THE GRANT FUND NUMBER 900 INTO THE LOCAL ROAD AND STREET FUND NUMBER 202. >> SACK? >> THANK YOU MISTER PRESIDENT. THIS IS SIMPLY THE OTHER HALF OF THAT TRANSFER WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER , TRANSFERRING THE DOLLARS , CB DG DOLLARS TO THE LOCAL REGISTRY FUND. THANK YOU. >> WHILE I'VE GOT YOU I HAD A QUESTION. YOU MADE A COMMENT AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE YOU SPEAK IN THE WORLD OF NUMBERS AND SOMETIMES IT SOUNDS SCARIER THAN IT IS BUT YOU HAD SAID IT'S OUR ONLY RELIEF AND I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE ARE NOT DESTITUTE. IT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO PAY THE BILL. WE ARE NOT SHORT ON MONEY. >> NOT SHORT ON MONEY. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? >> THIS IS A RESOLUTION SO IF I ENTERTAIN A MOTION-- >> SECOND. >> MOTION APPROVED AND A SECOND. [14.b. Resolution CC-12-01-25-02; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving a Transfer of Funds Within the Engineering Department Fund (#2200); Sponsor: Councilor Aasen.] PLEASE VOTE. THIS PASSES. NEXT UP IS RESOLUTION CC-12-01-25-03, A RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA APPROVING A TRANSFER OF FUNDS WITHIN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FUND 2200. SPONSOR IS COUNCILOR AASEN. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO INTRODUCE? WOULD YOU READ THE SYNOPSIS? >> THIS TRANSFERS $49,000 WITHIN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FUND. >> ZACH? >> THANK YOU MISTER PRESIDENT. SO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAD SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS THIS YEAR LARGELY DUE TO SOME VACANT POSITIONS. WE ARE ASKING TO MOVE $49,000 SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND ENCUMBER THE MPO DUES FOR NEXT YEAR JUST TO MAKE NEXT YEAR A LITTLE MORE EASY TO MANAGE THROUGH. >> ANY QUESTIONS? I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS RESOLUTION. >> SECOND. >> MOVED AND SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE. THIS PASSES. MOVING ON TO RESOLUTION CC-12-01-25-03, A [14.c. Resolution CC-12-01-25-03; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving a Transfer of Funds Within the Redevelopment Department Budget (#1801); Sponsor: Councilor Aasen. ] RESOLUTION OF THE, CANCELED THE CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA APPROVING A TRANSFER OF FUNDS WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT BUDGET 1801. SPONSOR IS COUNCILOR AASEN. DO I HAVE A MOTION INTRODUCED? >> SO MOVED. SECOND. >> COUNCILOR SNYDER? >> TRANSFERS, $6800 WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT BUDGET. >> SO TAKING YOU BACK TO THE SALARY STUDY AND THE SALARY ORDINANCE IS THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON EARLIER THIS YEAR THERE WAS ONE EMPLOYEE AT [00:50:05] REDEVELOPMENT THAT DID BENEFIT FROM THAT THAT WAS MOVED UP ONE SALARY GRADE . WE DID NOT FUND ENOUGH IN THE PERSONAL SERVICES FOR THAT WHENEVER WE BUILT THE BUDGET SO WE ARE SIMPLY MOVING UP SOME SAVINGS THEY'VE HAD ELSEWHERE IN THE BUDGET TO COVER THE INCREASED SALARY THAT COUNCIL APPROVED BACK IN OCTOBER. QUESTIONS? >> SO IT'S FOR A RAISE OF ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES? >> IT'S FOR A RAISE OF ONE OF HENRY'S EMPLOYEES? >> IT'S A RAISE FOR ONE EMPLOYEES AND SOME OF US ALSO GOT THE LANGUAGE SKILL CREDIT INCREASE SO IT'S TWO THINGS. >> EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION INCREASE. PERFECT. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> MOTION AND SECOND ON THIS RESOLUTION. ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES. [14.d. Resolution CC-12-01-25-04; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving an Amendment to the Carmel Comprehensive Plan to Incorporate a New Subarea Plan for the Home Place Area; Sponsor: Councilor Minnaar. ] MOVING ON, RESOLUTION CC-12-01-25-04. A RESOLUTION OF COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO INCORPORATE A NEW SUB AREA PLAN FOR THE HOMEPLACE AREA. SPONSOR IS COUNCILOR MINNAAR. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO INTRODUCE? >> MOVE TO INTRODUCE. >> SECOND. >> CANCER JOSHI? >> THIS RESOLUTION A MENSA CARMEL CAPRI HAS A PLAN TO INCORPORATE A NEW SUB AREA PLAN FOR THE HOMEPLACE AREA AND MAKES ASSOCIATED REVISIONS TO THE MENU OF STREET TYPOLOGIES, THOROUGH FAIR PLAN MAP AND MOBILITY AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN MAP. >> ALL RIGHT. ADRIAN? >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ADRIENNE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. I AM HERE WITH ANOTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT SIMILAR BUT VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT I INTRODUCED FOR THE US 31 CORRIDOR AT YOUR LAST MEETING. >> I WANT TO INTERRUPT. WE WILL SEND THIS ONE TO COMMITTEE. >> YES. >> I FULLY EXPECTED THIS TO GO TO COMMITTEE AND I WILL BE BRIEF. THIS SUB AREA PLAN IS FOR THE HOMEPLACE AREA AND THE PROCESS FOR THIS STARTED IN THE SPRING OF 2024 WITH A VERY ROBUST PUBLIC OUTREACH AND EVENTS SCHEDULE . WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE IT NOW IN THE APPROVAL PHASE OF THINGS . THIS TO GO TO PLAN COMMISSION WITH A PUBLIC HEARING IN JULY. WE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS, THE COMMITTEE SPENT FOUR MEETINGS GOING OVER , REARRANGING, REWORDING , AND LOOKING AT A LOT OF LANGUAGE REGARDING THE HOMEPLACE AREA. THE PLAN ITSELF WILL CREATE A NEW SUB AREA IN CHAPTER 5 OF THE OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SO THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU SEE WOULD BE AMENDED INTO THE PLAN AND ADDED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WEBSITE. THE SECTIONS ARE DIVIDED INTO PLANNING SUMMARY, GROWTH STRATEGY, DESIGN AND POLICY GUIDELINES , THE ACTUAL SUB AREA PLANS AND APPENDIX . AND THEN ALONG WITH THE DOCUMENT THERE ARE SOME AMENDMENTS, REVISIONS TO THE THOROUGH FAIR PLAN TO REFLECT SOME NEW STREET TYPOLOGIES THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THE SUB AREA PLAN DOCUMENT AS WELL AS THE PEDESTRIAN AND -- NOT MICRO MOBILITY. THAT'S ANOTHER TOPIC. PEDESTRIAN AND MOBILITY PLAN AS WELL AS ADDING TO THE MENU OF STREET TYPOLOGIES IN THE OVERALL PLAN. I WILL GO THROUGH THE SUB AREA PLAN THIS EVENING BUT, KNOW THAT THIS DOCUMENT IS PART OF A LARGER OVERALL EFFORT IN WORKING WITH [00:55:03] THE MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE AREA FROM THE GREATER HOMEPLACE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THERE IS A NEW ORGANIZATION THAT HAS FORMED TO FOCUS IS TYPICALLY ON THE AREA OF 106TH AND COLLEGE TO HELP SUPPORT AND RECRUIT BUSINESSES IN THE HEART OF THE HOMEPLACE AREA SO THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO THIS PARTICULAR PLAN. AS YOU KNOW THIS IS, IN CONTRAST, THIS PLAN ENCOMPASSES A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS. SO WE DID AS MUCH OUTREACH AS POSSIBLE THROUGH COMMUNITY AMBASSADORS . POSTCARDS, KNOCKING ON DOORS TO TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT, AND HELD A NUMBER OF PUBLIC EVENTS IN THE AREA. CULMINATING WITH THE UNVEILING OF THE INITIAL VERSION OF THIS PLAN AT A BLOCK PARTY IN MAY THAT WAS HELD AT THE CORNER OF 106TH AND COLLEGE THAT LUCKILY WE WERE ABLE TO CO-OPT THE UNVEILING OF THE ROUNDABOUT SCULPTURE. TO BRING COMMUNITY INTEREST AND ATTENDANCE. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THIS EVENING BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO GOING THROUGH IN MORE DETAIL. THE NUANCES AND INFORMATION IN THIS PLAN AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING , THERE WAS A SUB AREA PLAN ADOPTED IN I BELIEVE 2002 FOR HOMEPLACE AND A CORRESPONDING OVERLAY DISTRICT . A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE 2002. CARMEL HAS GROWN UP AROUND HOMEPLACE, SURROUNDING HOMEPLACE , THE ANNEXATION OF COURSE IS NOW IN EFFECT SO A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND WE FELT IT WAS REALLY TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AGAIN AND CREATE A CLEAR VISION THAT RESPECTS AND UNDERSTAND AND CELEBRATES THE UNIQUE CHARACTER OF HOMEPLACE SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THAT IN COMMITTEE. >> QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR SNYDER? >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR LAND-USE MEETINGS, THIS WILL NOT BE SPOKEN ABOUT FOR PROBABLY A FEW MEETINGS JUST SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION. SPECIFICALLY THE 31 SUB AREA PLAN . WHEN YOU SAID MOBILITY IT MADE ME THINK THAT MAYBE IT WOULD BE READY FOR THE 31 ONE ON WEDNESDAY BECAUSE A LOT OF COUNCILOR HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT MICRO MOBILITY AND WHERE THESE DEVICES GET PARKED AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE QUESTION WILL PROBABLY COME UP ON HOW ARE YOU INCORPORATING THAT INTO SOME OF THESE PLANS? THANK YOU. >> US 31 , IT'S VERY CLEAR BECAUSE YOU HAD BUILDINGS WITH HIGHER VACANCY RATES , IT'S AN ECONOMIC ENGINE AND THERE'S BEEN TALK FOR YEARS ABOUT HOW TO MAY BE IN FILL SOME OF THOSE PARKING LOTS. THE PLAN WAS TO HELP SPUR REDEVELOPMENT. WHEN I WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND DEALT WITH THIS AND OVERLAY THAT KIND OF PROTECTS THE FEEL AND LOOK OF THE CHARACTER. MAYBE IT NEEDS UPDATING BUT THERE'S NOT VAST AREAS FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND LESS I AM MISUNDERSTANDING THE AREA. SO EXPLAIN THE WHY ON WHY WE ARE DOING THIS. >> YOU ARE CORRECT. WE DON'T VIEW THE AREA AS A VAST REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY. HOWEVER SO MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED SURROUNDING HOMEPLACE WE DO HAVE AN OVERLAY, THIS PLAN STARTS TO SUGGEST SOME UPDATES TO THAT OVERLAY AND OVER THE YEARS WE'VE SEEN CHANGES, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT MORE INTEREST , DEVELOPMENT INTEREST IN THE AREA AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD TIME TO TAKE A LOOK, STRENGTHEN POLICIES AND MAKE SURE WE ARE GIVING GOOD GUIDANCE FOR THE FUTURE BECAUSE OF COURSE HOME PLACE HAS BEEN AROUND IN ITS CURRENT FORM FOR A LONG TIME AND WE WANT IT TO STICK AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GROWING AND [01:00:04] PROSPERING IN THE RIGHT WAY. TO RESPECT THE AREA WHILE ALSO BRINGING SOME CHANGE. WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF DISAPPOINTMENT FROM THE AREA THAT THE WATERING HOLE ON THE CORNER CLOSED, SO CERTAINLY THAT IS ALREADY ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL. THE RESIDENCE THERE EXPRESSED DESIRE TO KEEP PLACES TOGETHER. FOSTER MORE PLACES TOGETHER. SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE KEEPING THE VISION STRONG MOVING FORWARD. >> IN THE LAST UPDATE WHEN WE UPDATED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST POINTS OF DISCUSSION WAS WHETHER COLLEGE AVENUE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A THOROUGH FAIR AND EVENTUALLY IT WAS TAKEN OUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE, IT WAS THAT COUNCIL 'S DECISION TO SEE LESS DEVELOPMENT SPRING UP IN THAT AREA AT LEAST FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. IS THIS A SOFTENING OF THAT POSITION? >> WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO IS CALLED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN A TYPICAL CORRIDOR DESIGNATION. THAT DESIGNATION EXTENDED I BELIEVE ALONG THE ENTIRETY OF COLLEGE AVENUE. I DON'T RECALL, BUT WHAT THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME IN 2022 OR WHENEVER THAT WAS DECIDED TO ONLY EXTEND THAT TYPICAL CORRIDOR DESIGNATION TO THE EXTENT OF WHERE THE HOME PLACED BUSINESS DISTRICT IS NOW WHICH IS ROUGHLY FROM I THINK 103RD OR 104TH . OR SEVENTH OR EIGHTH. IT IS STILL IN PLACE AT THE VERY HEART OF SURROUNDING A FEW BLOCKS NORTH AND SOUTH 106 BUT THAT WAS TAKEN OFF FURTHER NORTH AND SOUTH AND THIS PLAN DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE EXPANDING THAT BUSINESS DISTRICT AREA NORTH OF WHERE IT ALREADY EXISTS. >> SOUNDS GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? WE APPRECIATE THIS AND [14.e. Resolution CC-12-01-25-05; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving a Transfer of Funds from the General Fund (#101) into the 2024 General Obligation Bond Fund (#410); Sponsor(s): Councilor(s) Taylor and Snyder. ] THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS WILL BE HEADED TO THE LAND-USE AND SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE. MOVING ON WE'VE GOT TWO MORE ITEMS. RESOLUTION CC-12-01-25-05, A RESOLUTION OF COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA APPROVING A TRANSFER OF FUNDS FROM GENERAL FUND 100 AND ONE INTO THE 2024 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUND 410. SPONSOR ACCOUNTS, TAYLOR AND SNYDER. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO INTRODUCE? WE WILL GET IT INTRODUCED. >> SECOND. >> GENERAL OBLIGATION FUND ONE -- NUMBER 110. >> I WILL KNOW NEXT WEEK WHETHER IT WILL BE NECESSARY OR NOT BUT [14.f. First Reading of Ordinance D-2804-25; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending Chapter 4, Article 6 of the Carmel City Code; Sponsor(s): Councilor(s) Minnaar and Taylor. ] MOST LIKELY NOT NECESSARY. >> THIS IS INTRODUCED AND HELD. MOVING ON, FIRST ORDINANCE OF D-2804-25, AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL AMENDING CHAPTER 4 ARTICLE 6 OF THE CARMEL CITY CODE. SPONSORS ARE COUNCILOR MINNAAR AND TAYLOR. MOTION TO INTRODUCE? COUNCILOR TAYLOR WOULD YOU READ THE SYNOPSIS? >> AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CLARIFYING REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 4 ARTICLE 6 OF THE CITY CODE RELATING TO THE RESIDENTIAL RENTAL DWELLING REGISTRATION AND PERMIT PROGRAM. >> WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO PRESENT ? >> GOOD EVENING . THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT POSTPONES THE REGISTRATION DEADLINE AND SOME OF THE ORDINANCES CORRESPONDING AFFECTS BY A MONTH TO FEBRUARY 1, 2026. WE HAD RECEIVED A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS PARTICULAR , PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE REGISTRATION AND CONCERNS OBTAINING THE REQUIRED AFFIRMATIONS BY THE DEADLINE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED. IT ALSO FIXES A DEFINITION OF THE LEGACY DWELLING , CURRENTLY THE DEFINITION ESTABLISHED THAT THE LEGACY DWELLING MUST BE CONSTRUCTED AND READY TO LET AT THE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE, THE SIGNING OF THE ORDINANCE I BELIEVE MIDSUMMER , THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED TO JANUARY 1 BUT AMENDED TO FEBRUARY 1. [01:05:06] >> ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? SO THE REGISTRATION PROCESS DID OPEN TODAY. DID WE HAVE ANY UPDATE ON-- I KNOW THAT IT'S DAY ONE BUT DID WE GET ANY YET SO FAR? >> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. REGISTRATION OPENED TODAY AND KUDOS TO THE TEAM THAT PUT IT TOGETHER TO GET THE WEBSITE UP AND RUNNING. IT WASN'T ROUGH BUT IT WASN'T SUPER SMOOTH EITHER. THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS, SO WE ARE SPENDING A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME, AND I SAY WE, THE BUILDING SAFETY AND THE FRONT OFFICE , HELPING TO TALK THROUGH RESIDENCE WITH THEIR QUESTIONS. >> I GET QUESTIONS TOO. IF YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF FAQ SHEET OR ANYTHING THAT CAN HELP PEOPLE PASS ALONG OR SOMETHING, I'M SURE SOME OF THE COUNCILOR WHEN WE GET QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, WE CAN SEND THAT THEIR WAY. >> WE DO HAVE AN FAQ ON THE WEBSITE . WE PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO GO DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE THIS EVENING BUT I AM HAPPY TO TALK YOU THROUGH OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME IN AND WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT THE SOFTWARE DOES I'D BE REALLY HAPPY TO DO THAT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE? COUNCILOR SNYDER? >> SORRY MIKE. THE LANDING PAGE , WHAT ARE THE TEXT MESSAGES? SAYS OPT IN FOR TEXT MESSAGES. THEY WON'T BE MARKETED BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE. >> I THINK THAT IS KIND OF STANDARD WEBSITE LANGUAGE BECAUSE WE ARE PAST THAT STAGE AT THIS POINT. THE WEBSITE IS ALIVE. >> AND WHEN YOU GO TO REGISTER , WHAT YOU ARE REALLY DOING IS CREATING AN ACCOUNT AND THEN-- BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN ON IT YET. >> YES, YOU HAVE TO SIGN IN AND REGISTER AND THERE ARE SOME FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS YOU HAVE TO ANSWER IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO REGISTER. >> THANK YOU. >> COULD YOU IN THE FUTURE KEEP US UPDATED ON HOW MANY WE SEE COMING IN? I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE A GENERAL IDEA OF HOW MANY RENTALS ARE IN THE CITY AND IF WE SEE NOT THAT MANY ARE APPLYING, THAT MEANS THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH OR WE HAVE OPTIONS TO DO A FINE. >> CERTAINLY WE WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED. WE DO HAVE AN AUTOMATED OUTREACH THAT WE WILL START IN EARLY JANUARY WHERE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN REGISTERED THAT ARE SUSPECTED TO BE RENTALS WILL RECEIVE A COMMUNICATION AND LETTER AND WE WILL DO THAT UNTIL PROBABLY THE 60 DAY MARK AND THEN ENGAGE WITH A LEGAL TEAM AND KIND OF ESCALATE THE COMMUNICATION TO MORE OF A NOTICE OF VIOLATION FOR THE ORDINANCE. >> GO AHEAD. >> I TYPED IN AN ADDRESS AND IT SAYS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE SELECTED. WHAT DO PEOPLE DO THEN? >> IT SORT OF DEPENDS, RIGHT? ONE OF THE CALLS THAT I TOOK TODAY WAS A GENTLEMAN THAT HAS DUPLEXES. DUPLEXES AREN'T COVERED WITH THIS, SO YOU CAN'T REGISTER A DUPLEX. >> BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO? >> AND THE SOFTWARE FILTERS OUT PROPERTIES EXPECTED TO BE RENTALS AND THOSE ARE REALLY TAILORED TO SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED AND SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED. >> JUST UNDER THE FAQS, I SAYS HOW DO I REGISTER MY RENTAL? IF YOU COULD ADD THE WEB LINK IT HAS NOT BEEN REGISTERED UNDER THAT. >> OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ABOUT THIS? THIS IS AN ORDINANCE [01:10:02] TO EXTEND THE TIME ONE EXTRA MONTH. ANY CONVERSATION OR DO WE WANT TO ACT ON IT? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> GO AHEAD AND VOTE. WE CAN ACT ON THIS THIS EVENING. DO I HAVE A MOTION? PLEASE VOTE. THIS [16. OTHER BUSINESS ] PASSES. AGENDA ADD ON ITEMS. WE HAVE NONE. OTHER BUSINESS, CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS, CHRISTKINDLMRKT MARKET BOARD, ONE NOMINATION. ON APPOINTMENTS I ANTICIPATE ON OUR LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR WE WILL VOTE IF THAT'S OKAY WITH COUNCIL, ON CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THEN SAVE THE REST OF THEM THAT WE ARE GETTING APPLICANTS FROM FROM THE PORTAL PROBABLY INTO AFTER THE NEW YEAR . SO UNLESS THERE'S OBJECTION THERE ? BE PREPARED FOR THE NEXT MEETING IF YOU ARE A CITY COUNCILOR THAT CURRENTLY SERVES ON THE BOARD AND COMMISSION AND WANTS TO CONTINUE TO SERVE OR YOU DON'T WANT TO SERVE ANY MORE, LET US KNOW. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.