Feb 16, 2026 City Council Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER ]

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[APPLAUSE]. I'LL NOW CALL TO ORDER THE MONDAY FEBRUARY 16 COUNCIL MEETING HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF CARMEL CITY HALL. FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS

[2. AGENDA APPROVAL ]

AGENDA APPROVAL. >> SO MOVED. ER

>> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? NEXT UP IS THE INVOCATION, WE HAVE THE CARMEL POLICE DEPARTMENT CHAPLAIN, GEORGE DAVIS, PLEASE.

>> WOULD YOU JOIN ME IN PRAYER, PLEASE, GRACIOUS GOD, ON THIS PRESIDENT'S DAY, WE GIVE THANKS FOR OUR LEADERS, FOR OUR FREEDOMS AND FOR OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS CITIZENS.

BEYOND POLICIES AND PERSONALITIES ON THIS DAY, WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THEIR SERVICE FOR WE ARE NOW ALWAYS AN EASY PEOPLE. OUR LIFE TOGETHER IS DYNAMIC, OUT SPOKEN AND IS ACCURATE IN OUR INDIVIDUAL ALLIS, SO HELP US TO ALSO BE CARING AND HELPFUL, TO SEE WHAT IS BEST ABOUT ONE ANOTHER AND TO BUILD ONE ANOTHER UP.

IT IS IN THAT SPIRIT WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE THIS COUNCIL, FOR EACH SPEAKER TONIGHT AND FOR ALL WHO WOULD SERVE THE PUBLIC GOOD. THIS GATHERING OF ELECTED OFFICIALS OF LOCAL INTERESTED CITIZEN ISS THE CORNER STONE OF OUR POLITICAL LIFE.

MAY WE SHARE A SPIRIT OF GOOD WILL AND MAY WE CONTINUE TO GIVE THANKS FOR ALL WE HAVE AND FOR ALL THAT YOU ENABLE US TO ACCOMPLISH. AMEN.

>> IF OUR DEPUTY MAYOR WOULD LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[5.a. Swearing-in of New Carmel Police Department Officers ]

>> RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS, TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO ITEMS, ONE IS VACANT ON THE GENERAL ABASING FIRST UP IS SWEARING-IN OF NEW CARMEL

POLICE OFFICERS, MAYOR FINKAM, OR I'M SORRY, CHIEF STERLING. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M EXCITED TO SWEAR IN TWO NEW POLICE OFFICERS TODAY, THESE OFFICERS COME TO US ACHIEVING CERTIFICATION THROUGH THE INDIANA LAW ENFORCEMENT ACADEMY, I WILL CALL THOSE OFFICERS UP, IF YOU WILL PLEASE COME ON UP, Z ACH GRAHAM, HE HAS WORKED WITH THE COUNTY'S OFFICE SINCE 2002, HE SERVED AS A JAILER, Z ACH ATTENDED IN INDIANA STATE UNIVERSITY.

RADHIKA CHOUDHRAY, FROM THE INDIANAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT, SHE WAS BORN IN INDIA AND MOVED HERE IN 2019. SHE PURR PSEUDOLAW ENFORCEMENT AND EARNED HER BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE FROM IU. [APPLAUSE].

>>( SWEARING-IN OF OFFICERS ). >> WELCOME TO CARMEL. [APPLAUSE].

>> WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR FAMILIES COULD OM UP. >> ANY FAMILIES WHO WOULD LIKE

TO TAKE A PHOTO, COME ON UP. >> CONGRATULATIONS. [APPLAUSE].

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>> ALRIGHT. AND NOW MY PRIVILEGE TO ADD THAT I TEASED AT LAST WEEK'S COUNCIL MEETING WHICH I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE COORDINATE WITCHED THE MAYOR.AND THE REST OF THE MARKET STAFF TO BE ON THE RIGHT TIMELINE, BUT TONIGHT'S A REALLY COOL NIGHT.

AS YOU KNOW, CARMEL'S CHRIS CRINGE L MART IS MORE THAN JUST AN EVENT, IT'S BECOME AN INSTITUTION IN CARMEL AND HAS BEEN A DEFINING TRADITION OF OUR FAMILY, A CELEBRATION OF CULTURE, FAMILY AND SPIRIT THAT MAKES CARMEL SPECIAL. IT DRAWS PEOPLE FROM ACROSS THE KUNTCOUNTRY, IT CREATES MEMORIES THAT LAST A LIFETIME, WITH THAT IN MIND, LEADERSHIP OF AN INSTITUTION LIKE THE MARKET IS NOT SIMPLY A JOB, IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY TO STEWARD SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT IN YOURSELF FORWARD AND CONTINUE TO BE A PIECE OF CARMEL'S IDENTITY, I'M PLEASED TO INTRODUCE JASON ADAMOWITZ WHO WILL SERVE AS THE NEW CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE CHRIS CRINGE L MART, HE BRINGERS THE PASSION AND STRATEGIC VISION TO TAKE THE MARKET INTO ITS NEXT CHAPTER, CHANGE IS COMING THAT HOPEFULLY ONLY MAKE IT BETTER THAN IT IS. I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE JASON IS THE RIGHT PERSON TO TAKE THE HELM OF THIS INSTITUTIONAL CERTAINTY PIECE, ON BEHALF OF ALL THE RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY, CONGRATULATIONS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

[APPLAUSE]. >> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS AMAZING WELCOME.

I AM HONORED TO BE A PART OF THE CARMEL CHRIS CRINGE L MARKET TEAM, IT'S MADE UP OF AMAZING STAFF, VOLUNTEERS, COMMUNITY PARTNERS, AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO STEWARDING THIS AMAZING TRADITION WITH YOU, THE CITY, I KNOW THIS IS A SPECIAL OPPORTUNITY FOR ME AND MY FAMILY, CARMEL MEANS A LOT TO US AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO GET STARTED, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.

>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]. >> ALRIGHT.

NEXT UP IS THE -- I'M SORRY, WE REORDERED, I APOLOGIZE. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCILORS, MY NAME IS NEFAG SINGH, A FIFTH GRADE AND I WILL BE DELIVERING TONIGHT'S MAYOR'S COUNCIL'S REPORT, LAST WEEK THE CITY OF CARMEL ANNOUNCED THAT IT WOULD REMOVE THE PLANTER BOXES ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF RANGE LINE ROAD AND TURP THE NEARBY SIDEWALK INTO A TEN FOOT WIDE PATH FOR BOTH WALKERS AND CYCLISTS. THIS CHANGE WILL MAKE THE AREA SAFER, ADD MORE PARKING AND HELP WITH STORMWATER. CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN AFTER JULY 4 AND SHOULD FINISH BY NOVEMBER. YESTERDAY MAYOR FINKAM VISITED

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THE CITY ALSO LAUNCHED A NEW VOLUNTEER PLATFORM WITH MANY CHANCES FOR PEOPLE TO HELP OUT, WHETHER YOU ENJOY THE ARTISTES, BEING OUTDOORS OR HELPING AT LOCAL FESTIVALS, THERE'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE. YU CAN SIGN UP ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

CARMEL UTILITIES IS INVITING RESIDENTS TO JOIN THE 2026 SPRING CARMEL CITIZENS UTILITY ACADEMY. THIS 7 WEEK PROGRAM GIVES PEOPLE A BEHIND THE SCENES LOOK AT THE IMPORTANT UTILITY SERVICES THAT KEEP OUR COMMUNITY RUNNING.

YOU CAN LEARN MORE AT CARMEL UTILITIES.COM. FINALLY IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T HEARD, THE CARMEL ARTS AND DESIGN DISTRICT HAS BEEN NOMINATED IN USA TODAY'S 10 BEST READERS' KHO* CHOICE AWARDS FOR BEST ARTS DISTRICT IN THE NATION, VOTING FINISHED TODAY AND WINNERS WILL BE ANNOUNCED ON FEBRUARY -- ON WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 25, SO STAY

TUNED. [APPLAUSE]. >> THANK YOU.

[6. RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ]

THAT OATH WAS NOT CONDITIONAL, IT WAS NOT PARTISAN AND NOT RESERVED FOR THOSE WHO AGREE WITH ME. IT WAS A KOL LEM PROMISE TO SERVE ALL OF YOU.

OUR DUTY IS TO THE MORE THAN 100 THOUSAND RESIDENTS WOULD CALL CARMEL HOME REGARDLESS OF BACKGROUND BELIEF OR CONVICTION. AT THIS TIME THE ONLY CONFIRMED INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THE CITY IS THAT IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS IS LEASING SPACE FROM A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER FOR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE USE. WE ADVISED THIS LOCATION WILL NOT SERVE AS AN ENFORCEMENT OR DETENTION FACILITY. IT'S EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO SPEAK PLAINLY ABOUT THE LIMITERS OF MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY. THE CITY OF CARMEL DOES NOT POSSESS THE LEGAL POWER TO DICTATE WHO MAY OR MAY NOT LEASE PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY. WE DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO BRING IN A LAWFUL ENTITY TO OCCUPY PUBLIC SPACE THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE POWERS GRANTED TO GOVERNMENT AND NOR SHOULD IT BE. WHEN THE GOVERNMENT CLAIMS THE RIGHT OR TLORT TO DECIDE WHICH LAWFUL VOICES MAY EXIST WITHIN ITSZ BORDERS, LIBERTY ITSELF BECOMES DIMINISHED. I'M FULLY AWARE THE RECENT NATIONAL ATTENTION SURROUNDING ICE HAS HEIGHTENED FEAR AND IS SHARPENED ATTENTION. NATIONAL HEADLINES AS SOMETHING BETWEEN IS SECONDARY, FEAR IS REAL FOR THE PERSON EXPERIENCES IT, I WILL NOT BROADLY CONDEMN AN ENTIRELY FEDERAL AGENCY CHARGED WITH ENFORCING LAWS AND PROTECTING CITIZENS, PARTICULARLY WHEN THE CONFIRMED USE OF THIS LOCATION IS ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE.

MY FOCUS REMAINS SINGULAR AND THAT IS THE PEOPLE OF CARMEL AS AMERICANS, AS CARMEL ITES, WE AGREE DISAGREEMENT IS NOT A THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY, IT IS EVIDENCE OF IT, TT NOT ONLY ACCEPTABLE TO HOLD STRONG CONVICTIONS, IT IS HOW WE CONDUCT OURSELVES WHEN WE DO

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IF WE BELIEVE IN REAL FREEDOM, THAT BELIEF MUST EXTEND BEYOND THE OPINIONS THAT ALIGN WITH OUR OWN, IT MEANS BEING WILLING TO LIVE ALONGSIDE THAT NEIGHBOR WHO SUPPORTS ICE'S ROLE AND SUPPORTING FEDERAL LAW EVEN.YOU STRONGLY DISAGREE. IT ALSO MEANS RESPECTING THAT NEIGHBOR WHO ADVOCATES FOR BROADER IMMIGRATION RETOMORROW AND EXPANDED PROTECTIONS EVEN WHEN THAT POSITION CHALLENGES YOUR GREATNESS, IT IS NOT TESTED IN MOMENTS OF AGREEMENT, IT IS TESTED WHEN SOMEONE RISES TO DEFEND A POSITION THAT FEELS FUNDAMENTALLY OPPOSED TO OUR OWN AND WE STILL CHOOSE CIVILITY OVER CONTEMPT. I HAVE WITNESSED CARMEL'S ABILITY TO BE ONE FAMILY WEBSINGER HAVE WEATHERED TRAGEDY TOGETHER, WE HAVE CELEBRATED VICTORIES TOGETHER WEBSINGER HAVE DEBATED POLICIES, PRIORITIES, LOGOS, SOMETIMES VERY LOUDLY AND YET WE *F WE REMAIN NEIGHBORS FIRST. THERE ARE THOSE WHO MAY HAVE RIGHTLY SUGGESTED THAT THE SAFEST COURSE IN MOMENTS LIKE THIS IS SILENCE.

THERE NIECE POLITICAL ADVANTAGE TO SPEAKING PLAINLY, THAT ENGAGEMENT ONLY RISKS OFFENDING ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER BUT THIS IS NOT A CONTEST TO BE WON, IT IS NOT A STRATEGY SESSION TO BE NAVIGATED, THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN VERY GOOD AT KEEPING SILENT ANYWAY. LEADERSHIP IS NOT MEASURED BY AVOIDING THESE CONVERSATIONS, IT'S MEASURED BY STEPPING INTO THEM WITH STEADFAST CLARITY EVEN THOUGH IT FEELS IT SHOULD NOT BE OUR PROBLEM OR YOU'RE WHOLLY UNQUALG FI TODAY SPEAK ON THE MATTER.

IF WE FAIL TO LEAD UP TO THE REPUTATION THAT CARMEL HAS EARNED, WE BECOME ANOTHER NATIONAL HEADLINE AND ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF DIVISION. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WILL HAPPEN, I BELIEVE THE OPPOSITE. I BELIEVE WE WILL NOT MERELY LIVE UP TO OUR REPUTATION WEBSINGER WILL ELEVATE IT AND TOE *F SHOW BY OUR CONDUCT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A COMMUNITY CAPABLE OF DISAGREEMENT WITHOUT DISORDER, CONVICTION WITHOUT CRUELTY AND ADVERSITY WITHOUT FRACTURE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS MATTER CONCERNS A TENANT LEASING SPACE IN A PRIVATELY OWNED BUILDING. WHAT DEFINES CARMEL HAS NEVER BEEN A TENANT IN AN OFFICE SUITE, WHAT DEFINES CHARACTER HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE PEOPLE, THE CHARACTER OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE, WORK AND SERVE HERE. IT'S WORTH REMEMBERING THE CLERKS, SUPPORT STAFF WHO OCCUPY THAT BUILDING ARE NOT SYMBOLS OF A NATIONAL DEBATE, THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS, AND WORKERS, NEIGHBORS, FAMILIES HEARING A LIVING JUST LIKE SO MANY OTHER INS THIS WONDERFUL COMMUNITY ARE. I NEED TO PUT SOMETHING IN HERE AGAIN TO REITERATE THAT REFERENCES THE REAL FEAR OF SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE AGREE WITH THE FEAR OR WE FIND IT WELL FOUNDED, IF IT'S THERE, IT'S THERE. ANDWE ALL TOOK AN OATH TO PROTECT EVERY PERSON IN CARMEL.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT -- I KNOW THAT'S WHAT EVERY ONE OF US UP HERE ARE DOING.

SO, AS WE LEARN THINGS ABOUT SOMEONE MOVING IN THAT IS ENCOURAGING FOR SOME AND

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THIS IS MY HOME, IT'S YOUR HOME, WHETHER WE AGREE OR DISAGREE, NO LAW ABIDING PERSON IN THIS COMMUNITY SHOULD EVER FEEL DURESS BY SIMPLY EXISTING. EVERY RESIDENT DESERVES TO FEEL SAFE, VALUED AND RESPECTED HERE IN CARMEL. I LOVE CARMEL AND BECAUSE I LOVE CARMEL, I LOVE EVERY ONE OF YOU, I LOVE THE PEOPLE WHO CALL IT HOME, LOVE IS NOT POLITICAL, IT'S NOT PARTISAN, AND IT'S NOT CONDITIONED BY ELECTIONS OR IDEOLOGY, IT'S ROOTED IN OUR SHARED COMMUNITY. I AND WE WILL STRIVE EVERY DAY TO ACT IN A MANNER WORTHY OF THAT TRUST AND IF I EVER CEASE TO HONOR THAT COMMITMENT, I WOULD ACCEPT THE CONSEQUENCES THAT RIGHTLY FOLLOW BECAUSE THIS OFFICE DOES NOT BELONG TO ME OR ANY OF US AT THIS DAIS, THIS OFFICE BELONGS TO CARMEL. SO, WITH THAT IN MIND, I HOPE EVEN THOUGH EMOTIONS ARE RUNNING HIGH, THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS COUNCIL DO SO THE CARMEL WAY, PLEASE, WE WANT TO LISTEN, WE WANT TO HEAR, I'M SURE IT WILL BE PASSIONATE AND EMOTIONAL, BUT LET'S MAKE SURE IT'S RESPECTFUL. FIRST UP IS SALLY PEELER. ON DECK WILL BE MARK ROGER.

I HOPE SAY IED THAT RIGHT. THANK YOU, MS. PEELER. AND SHE HAS HANGED A COPY OF

HER STATEMENTS. >> THAT IS AN ARTICLE I FOUND FROM MERIFOLD THAT THEY WENT THROUGH A SIMILAR SITUATION AND WHAT THEIR OUTCOME WAS IN MAYERVILLE AND I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO YOU ALL. MY NAME IS SALLY PEELER AND I AM A CARMEL RESIDENT SINCE 1989.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I AM HERE TO EXPRESS SERIOUS CONCERN ABOUT THE PROPOSED ESTABLISHMENT OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE FOR U.S.

IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT IN OUR CITY, PARTICULARLY NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS. I UNDERSTAND THAT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IS FEDERAL LAW AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CANNOT PREVENT FEDERAL AGENCIES FROM OPERATING INDEPENDENTLY.

HOWEVER, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS CRITICAL THAT CITIES ARE NOT REQUIRED TO ASSIST OR COOPERATE WITH THE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. CARMEL REMAINS -- RETAINS MEANINGFUL AUTHORITY OVER ITS OWN RESOURCES, PERSONNEL, FACILITIES AND POLICIES.

THE CITY CAN CHOOSE NOT TO USE LOCAL POLICE, PUBLIC FUNDS OR CITY PROPERTY TO SUPPORT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. IT CAN DECLINE VOLUNTARY AGREEMENTS SUCH AS 287G PARTNERSHIPS AND IT CAN ADOPT CLEAR POLICIES THAT PROTECT RESIDENTS FROM UNNECESSARY ENTANGLEMENT BETWEEN LOCAL SSS AND FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ACTIONS. I EMPLOY IMMIGRANTS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR IN MY HOME. MY SON HAS DOWN'S SYNDROME, WE GRATEFULLY EMPLOY PEOPLE TO COME INTO MY HOME TO HELP MY SON. THEY ARE HARDWORKING AND PART OF THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY. THE PRESENCE OF AN ICE FACILITY NEAR HOMES CREATES FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY, EVEN FOR THOSE WHO HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG. THAT FEAR ALONE AFFECTS SAFETY, TRUST AND COMMUNITY WELLBEING. I AM NOT ASKING THE CITY TO INTERFERE WITH FEDERAL LAW, I AM ASKING THE CITY TO PROTECT ITS RESIDENTS BY BEING TRANSPARENT, BY SETTING FIRM, NON-COOPERATION BOUNDARIES AND BY REFUSING TO COMMIT LOCAL RESOURCE TOS FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR HEIGHTENED TENSION OR UNREST ASSOCIATED WITH ICE FACILITIES IN AND NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

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THOSE VALUES DEPEND ON TRUST BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE CARMEL CITY COUNCIL TO REQUIRE FULL, PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF THIS LEASE AND ITS INTENDED OPERATIONS, FORMALLY AFFIRM NON-COOPERATION POLICIES THAT PROTECT RESIDENTS, ENSURE NO CITY RESOURCES, PERSON FROM THE CITIES ARE USED TO SUPPORT IMMIGRATION AND SLOW THIS PROCESS UNTIL THE COMMUNITY IS FULLY INFORMED AND HEARD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND TAKING THESE CONCERNS SERIOUSLY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MRS. PEELER. [APPLAUSE].

I FAILED TO PROVIDE PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING AND THAT WAS THE RULES THAT WERE NOT CREATED TONIGHT, THESE HAVE BEEN THE COUNCIL RULES FOR YEARS ASK YEARS, THREE MINUTES, YOU'LL GET THE YELLOW LIGHT WHEN YOU HAVE A MINUTE LEFT, 30 SECONDS LEFT, THE RED LIGHT MEANS FINISH UP YOUR SENTENCE LIKE MRS. WHEELER DOES AND WE DO ENCOURAGE DEMONSTRATION OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OR TO BE SILENCED WHICH IS IRONIC SINCE I SAID WE WANT TO HEAR YOU, BUT

PLEASE. >> MY NAME'S MARK ROGER, I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION OR SPEAKING TO THE ALL OF YOU. TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO TALK ABOUT SAFETY, TRANSPARENCY AND TRUST. ACROSS AMERICA, THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS ABOUT FEDERAL AGENTS, IT'S ABOUT TACTICS, IT'S ABOUT OPERATING WITH MASKS AND IT'S WITHOUT CLEAR IDENTIFICATION. IT NAOETS WHAT THEY'RE DOING, IT'S HOW IT'S BEING DONE THAT I BELIEVE IS A REAL CONCERN FOR US HERE IN CARMEL. WHAT CAN THE COUNCIL DO ABOUT IT, LIMIT POLICE COOPERATION WITH THE FEDERAL AGENCYIES. WE CAN SET CLEAR POLICIES ON WHN AND HOW OUR POLICE MAY ASSIST FEDERAL AGENT SIS. THIS INCLUDES REQUIRING WRITTEN AUTHORIZATION FOR JOINT OPERATIONS AND PROHIBITING LOCAL OFFICERS FROM PARTICIPATING IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. WE CAN CAN INCREASE TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC REPORTING. WE CAN REQUIRE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PUBLICLY REPORT ON ANY REQUESTS FROM ASSISTANCE FROM FEDERAL AGENT SIS.

TRANSPARENCY PROVIDES TRUST AND MISUSE OF AUTHORITY AND WE CAN STRENGTHEN OUR CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT. WE CAN EMPOWER CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARDS TO IP VEST GAIT COMPLAINTS INVOLVING UNIDENTIFIED OFFICERS AND UNCLEAR ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS.

THIS GIVERS RESIDENTS A VOICE AND ENSURES ACCOUNTABILITY. WE CANNOT REGULATE FEDERAL AGENCIES BUT WE CAN ENSURE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT NEVER CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONFUSION OR THE FEAR AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL CAN CONTROL. WHY THIS MATTERS? PUBLIC TRUST IS THE MOST VALUABLE ASSET THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS.

WHEN RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW WHO IS APPROACHING THEM, TRUST YOUR ROADS, SAFE ROADS WITH IT, IT PROTECTS RESIDENT AND IS OFFICER AND IS STRENGTHENS OUR COMMUNITY.

OUR GOAL IS SIMPLE, A COMMUNITY WHERE EVERY RESIDENT FEELS SAFE, RESPECTED AND INFORMED JUST AS ALL OF YOU HAVE HAD. LET'S MAKE SURE THE RIGHT SIDE DWESH EAR ALL ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY. ET L*ET US COMMIT TO POLICIES AND PROVIDE CIVIC LIBERTIES AND ENSURE TRANSPARENCY. A CITY WHERE SAFETY AND TRUST GO HAND IN HAND.

IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. >> JOEY [INAUDIBLE].

AND I APOLOGIZE IF I SAID THAT INCORRECTLY, AND ON DECK WILL BE MS. MORA.

>> SO, QUICK DISCLAIMER, VIEW ARES MY OWN, NOT REFLECTIVE OF MY EMPLOYER OR ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION, I'M HERE AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY. MY NAME IS JOEY VASU, A PRODUCT OF MOHAWK TRAILS ELEMENTARY, AND MY WIFE AND I ARE PROUD PARENTS OF A FIRST GRADER IN THE CARMEL PLAY SCHOOLS. MY PARENTS HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR OVER 40 YEARS, I AM HERE TODAY OUT OF CONCERN AFTER HEARING THAT ICE IS EXPANDING THEIR FOOTPRINT TO CARMEL. WHEN I LEARNED ABOUT THIS, I DID WHAT THEY SAID THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND I REACHED OUT TO MY PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION, WHAT PROTECTIONS WILL EXIST FOR RESIDENTS OF CARMEL IN THE EVENT THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS ARE VIOLATED. NOW, A CREDIT TO THEM FOR THEIR PROMPT AND EARNEST RESPONSES

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COUNCILMAN WORRELL AND MAYOR FINKAM BOTH MENTIONED, AS YOU DID COUNCILMAN SNYDER THAT THE OFFICE REMAINS ADMINISTRATIVE ONLY, BUT IT RAISES A MORE SERIOUS QUESTION, EVEN IF IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE NOW, WHAT ABOUT SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, WHAT ABOUT CLOSER TO NOVEMBER.

NOW I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT OUR HANDS ARE VERY MUCH TIED HERE BUT THAT STILL PROVIDES LITTLE ASSURANCE THAT THOSE OF US IN THE COMMUNITY COULD BE IMPACTED.

ACCORDING TO RECENT LAWSUITS, ICE HAS DETAINED OVER 170 U.S. CITIZENS UNLAWFULLY JUST LAST YEAR. MY LITTLE SISTER WOULD WAS BORN IN THE CITY OF CARMEL LIVE INS CHICAGO, NOW CARRIES HER PASSPORT AROUND WITH HER WHEREVER SHE GOES OUT OF FEAR OF ICE'S PRESENCE HERE, I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN HERE IN CARMEL.

SB76 WILL MANDATE COOPERATION WITH ICE AND PROHIBIT POLICIES PROTECTING RESIDENTS FROM OVERREACH. THAT'S PRETTY BLEAK. GIVEN ATTEND OF THE DAY IF I WAS STOPPED BY MASKED MEN WITH GUNS DEMANDING TO SEE MY PAPERS, I WOULD TELL MY WIFE, GO CALL THE CARMEL PD, WE TRUST THEIR SRO WITH OUR SON'S LIFE EVERY SINGLE DAY, I TRUST THOSE GUYS. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY, I'M URGING THIS CITY COUNCIL TO ASK THAT CARMEL POLICE PROTECT US REGARDLESS OF WHAT ICE DOES. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY.

[APPLAUSE]. >> MS. MORA. THANK YOU, AND KEN, YOU'LL BE

UP NEXT. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MY NAME IS MIKA MORA, I'M 16 YEARS OLD AND I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE SAFETY, THE WELLBEING AND THE INCLUSIVE FUTURE OF OUR CITY.

I STAND HERE TONIGHT CONCERNED ABOUT THE RECENT NEWS THAT IMMIGRATION CUSTOMS AND ENFORCEMENT WILL BE ESTABLISHING OFFICE SPACE WITHIN CARMEL.

I RESPECT OUR CITY BUT I BELIEVE THIS RAISES SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT TRUST, PUBLIC SAFETY AND COMMUNITY. CARMEL IS KNOWN AS A SAFE, BEAUTIFUL, THRIVING CITY.

THE MERE PRESENCE OF AN ICE OFFICE REGARDLESS IF IT IS ADMINISTRATIVE, IT SENDS A MESSAGE AND FOR MANY IMMIGRANT FAMILIES, THIS MESSAGE IS ONE OF FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY, EVEN FOR RESIDENTS WHO ARE HERE LEGALLY OR OUR U.S. CITIZENS, HAVING AN ICE OFFICE NEARBY SIMPLY CREATES FEAR BECAUSE IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT DOESN'T JUST IMPACT PAPERWORK, IT IMPACTS CHILDREN, IT IMPACTS WHETHER PARENTS FEEL SAFE DRIVING TO WORK, IT IMPACTS WHETHER SOMEONE REPORTS A CRIME OR STAYS SILENT AND IT IMPACTS WHETHER FAMILIES FEEL SECURE ENOUGH TO BUILD A FUTURE HERE. AS WE LOOK AT ICE PARTICIPATION SPECIFICALLY IN MINNEAPOLIS, HOW CAN PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE ME AND MY FAMILY FEEL SAFE AND CONFIDENT IN OUR CITY KNOWING WE COULD EXPERIENCE HORRORS LIKE THOSE IN MINNEAPOLIS BECAUSE OF ICE'S FALSE INFORMATION OF LEGAL STATUS. I'M CARRYING MY PASSPORT WITH ME AS WE'RE SPEAKING HERE NOW.

SAFETY IS NOT JUST LOW CRIME WELLS OR WELL MAIP STAINED STREETS, SAFETY IS SECURITY, SAFETY IS KNOWING YOUR FAMILY WON'T BE TORN APART AND SAFETY IS KNOWING YOUR CITY SEES YOU AS A NEIGHBOR AND NOT A THREAT. WHEN ICE -- WHEN AN ICE OFFICE COME BOOS THE COMMUNITY, IT HEADINGS THE ATMOSPHERE AND MAKES SOME RESIDENTS FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO SHRINK THEMSELVES TO AVOID ATTENTION, IT MAKES US FRUSTRATED WITH OUR LOOK AND ETHNIC BACKGROUND, WHY IT HAS TO BE THE DECIDING FACTOR OF WHETHER WE ARE A SUSPECT OF UNDOCUMENTED STATUS AND IT MAKES US FEEL POWERLESS IN A COUNTRY WHERE ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTED BY THE CONSTITUTION. I'M ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER THE HUMAN SIDE OF THIS DECISION.

BEHIND EVERY ENFORCEMENT ACTION IS A CHILD WHO MIGHT LOSE A PARENT, BEHIND EVERY STATIC IS

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PLEASE MAKE IT CLEAR THAT CARMEL VALUES ALL OF ITS RESIDENT AND IS PLEASE MAKE IT CLEAR THAT HISPANIC FAMILIES, IMMIGRANT FAMILIES AND MIXED STATUS FAMILIES ARE NOT OUTSIDERS HERE. WE WANT TO FEEL SAFE IN THE CITY WE CALL HOME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. [APPLAUSE]. >> OKAY.

>> FRIDAY FEBRUARY 13, IT BECAME KNOWN THAT ICE IS SEEKING A LEASE FOR OFFICE SPACE IN CARMEL. OER THE WEEKEND, WE ALSO LEARNED THAT HAMINGTON COUNTY SHERIFF HAS A MANDATE TO ASSIST ICE. WE HAVE ALL READ AND SEEN VIDEOS OF ICE IN LOS ANGELES, WASHINGTON, DC, CHICAGO AND MINNEAPOLIS.

THEIR ACTIONS ASK ENCOUNTERS WITH CITIZENS ARE STEADILY GETTING LESS LAWFUL AND MORE VIOLENT.E TWO AMERICAN CITIZENS LOST THEIR LIVES IN MINNEAPOLIS TO THAT VIOLENCE.

THERE ARE LAWS HE JUST DOESN'T AGREE WITH AND CHOOSES NOT TO ENFORCE.

DURING YOUR CAMPAIGNS FOR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, YOU ALL PROMISED LEADERSHIP, TRANSPARENCY AND A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL CARMEL RESIDENTS.

WHAT DOES THAT LEADERSHIP LOOK LIKE SINCE THE ICE INFORMATION BROKE? MATT SNYDER HAD A STATEMENT FOR THE PRESS BY THE END OF FEBRUARY 13.

SATURDAY FEBRUARY 14, DR. JOSHI RELEASED A STATEMENT EXPRESSING HER THOUGHTS AND GIVING PRACTICAL ADVICE FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT ENCOUNTER ICE PERSONNEL. JOSH LOWRY ALSO RELEASED A STATEMENT. OUR MAYOR HAS NOT. WE HAVE HEARD NOTHING FROM THE OTHER FOUR COUNCILORS, YOU ARE FOUR DAYS LATE AND IT'S HARD TO LEAD FROM BEHIND.

[APPLAUSE]. >> SO, NEXT UP AND APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I DIDN'T LOOK DOWN FAR

ENOUGH, MR. CLA NCE, ABOUT SNOW REMOVAL ON SIDEWALKS. >> COUNCIL, A MORE LOCAL ISSUE BUT J*U-- JUST AS IMPORTANT, I WANTED TO BRING AWARENESS THAT CLEARING SIDEWALKS JUST WAS NOT ADEQUATE DURING THIS WINTER STORM AND ASK THAT NEXT YEAR WE PAY FOR ATTENTION TO CLEARING ICE AND SNOW FROM OUR SIDEWALKS, FOR REFERENCE, I WALK TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY, SO FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF WEEKS, I WAS DOING THIS AWKWARD TREK SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF SOUTH GILL FORD AND CITY CENTER DRIVE, JUST IMPOSSIBLE TO PASS, I WAS HAVING TO STEP THROUGH A FOOT OF SNOW AND IT WAS VERY, VERY FRUSTRATING. I PUT IN THE 311 REQUEST, GOT A PROFESSIONAL RESPONSE BUT NO ACTION WAS TAKEN AND IT KIND OF FELT LIKE THE CITY WAS WAITING FOR THIS TO GO AWAY. I DON'T EXPECT A LOT, BUT I DO EXPECT AT LEAST A CLEAR SIDEWALK WHEN I GO ON MY WALKS TO WORK. SO, I JUST WANT TO SAY THE ROADS LOOK GREAT BUT ICE REMOVAL ALONG THE SIDEWALKS WAS JUST NOT THERE THIS YEAR.

>> ALRIGHT. SO, THAT IS ALL THE BLUE CARDS AND ON OUR AGENDA, ONE THING, BY VIRTUE OF ME COMING OUT FIRST WAS I GOT THE COURTESY OF MY FELLOW COUNCILORS AND THE MAYOR TO STAY ON POINT, SO YOUR CONCERNS, I'M LISTENING, I HEAR THEM, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY PART OF IT IS THE MAYOR ALLOWING ME JUST TO KEEP THE MESSAGE, IT WAS PRETTY SHARED, SO I DON'T WANT HER TO HAVE UNDUE BLAME WHEN IT WAS MORE OF A COURTESY THAN LACK OF LEADERSHIP.

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[7. COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS ]

COMMENTS, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THE CITY I FELL IN LOVE WITH AND I MOVED MY FAMILY HERE, THE CITY I RAISED MY HAS HAPPENED TO SERVE AND THE CITY I HAVE THE PLEASURE THE SERVE SK, CARMEL ARE PROUD OF OUR CITY, WE CLEARLY HEAR THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY, WE'RE ON THE STREETS, WE FEEL PROTECTED AND SAFE & ANYTHING THAT MAY DISRUPT THAT PEACE IS UNSETTLING, AS I LISTENED TO OUR COMMUNITY, I HAVE STRONG AND SINCERE VIEWS ABOUT OUR PERSPECTIVES ABOUT AN IMMIGRATION OFFICE OPENING UP HERE IN CARMEL. FOR SOME, THE NEWS BRINGS CONCERN AND UNCERTAINTY, FOR OTHERS, IT BRINGS REASHAOURN AND A SENSE OF SAFETY. BOTH RESPONSE ARES ROOTED IN DEEPLY HELD VALUES. IT'S EASY FOR CONVERSATIONS TO BE OVERTAKEN BY EMOTION, LEADERSHIP REQUIRES WE ALL REMAIN GROUNDED IN FACTS SO LET'S START THERE.

AS HAS BEEN REPORTED, THE CITY WAS INFORMED BY U.S. IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT LAST WEEK THAT THE AGENCY HAS LEASE PRIVATEER OWNED OFFICE SPACE, CITY , ST CITY OF CARMEL DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PREVENT OR APPROVE THAT ACCESS.

THE NUMBER ONE THING WE VALUE IN OUR COMMUNITY IS SAFETY AND THE CORNER STONE OF THAT STORY IS THE CARMEL POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE MEN AND WOMEN OF CPD ARE COMMITTED TO KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE EVERY SINGLE DAY. THESE DIVERSE PROFESSIONALS ARE WELL TRAINED, WELL EQUIPPED AND WELL LED. THEIR COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY IS UNWAVERING AND I'M PROUD TO SERVE ALONGSIDE THEM AS THEIR MAYOR AIZ AOEM SURE YOU ALL ARE AS CITY COUNCILORS.

UNLIKE SOME COMMUNITIES, PUBLIC SAFETY REMAINS OUR TOP PRIORITY. THE CITY OF CARMEL WILL FOLLOW THE LAW AND AS WE DO WITH ALL FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES OPERATING WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY WEBSINGER MAINTAIN OPEN AND PROOFING LINES OF COMMUNICATION, THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY, THAT IS OUR COMMITMENT AND THAT'S A PROMISE I MAKE TO EVERY RESIDENT IN THE CITY OF CARMEL. WAEZ MAO*U FORWARD, REMEMBER THIS, OTHER DOS NOT WRITE OUR STORY, WE DO. AND IT'S A GREAT STORY. CARMEL'S A CITY THAT EMBRACE AND IS CELEBRATES RESIDENT FROM THOSE BORN HERE AND THOSE WHO HAVE COME FROM 90 COUNTRIES WHO SPEAK OVER 110 LANGUAGES RIGHT HERE. CARMEL IS A CITY THAT SHOWERS UP FOR ONE ANOTHER FR, CHRISTMAS AND AUGUST TO A NEIGHBOR IN NEED TO FOOD BANK DONATION DRIVES, TO PROUDLY HAVING HOMETOWN HEROES, CARMEL IS A LOVE FOR COUNTRY IS SO STRONG THAT OUR CELEBRATION CANNOT BE CONFINE TODAY A SINGLE DAY IN JULY AND CARMEL IS A CITY UNITED BY THE CHARACTER, COMPASSION AND STRENGTH OF ALL THOSE WHO CALL IT HOME. MY RESPONSIBILITY AS MAYOR IS NOT TO AMPLIFY DIVISION BUT TO LEAD A CITY WHERE PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES CAN STILL TRUST ONE ANOTHER, SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER AND MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER. MY LEADERSHIP SHOWS UP EVERY DAY THROUGH INVESTMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, SUPPORT FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES, STRONG PUBLIC SERVICES, DEVELOPMENT OF MULTICULTURAL FESTIVALS AND A CULTURE ROOTED IN RESPECT EVEN WHEN WE MAY DISAGREE. I'M DEEPLY HON MOORED TO SERVE AS CARMEL'S MAYOR AND I WELCOME AND ENCOURAGE CONTINUED CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE.

THNK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, SIR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THOSE COMMENTS TONIGHT, IT MEANS A LOT TO THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR FROM YOU.

I WILL SAY THAT AS COUNCILOR PEDIATRICIAN, I WAS MOVED AND I'M NOT MOVED WITH EMOTION ON THE DAIS, I CONSIDER IT A PROFESSIONAL JOB, BUT I CONSIDER MY COMMENTS TO BE IMPORTANT, BUT I CAN'T IGNORE THE IMPACT OF THE FEAR AND UN CERTAINTY THAT THA* CHILDREN HAVE EXPRESSED TONIGHT AND REGARDLESS OF ANYONE'S POLICY, I THINK WE SHOULD AGREE THAT PROTECTING CHILDREN, THEIR EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL SAFETY SHOULD BE THE CENTER POINT OF HOW WE LEAD. THE LIMITATIONS OF OUR AUTHORITY HAVE BEEN MADE CLEAR MULTIPLE TIMES AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REITERATE THOSE.

HOWEVER, WE ALSO KNOW THAT ALL PARTIES THAT LIVE IN THIS CITY MUST ABIDE BY CITY CODES, ORDINANCES AND RESIDENT HAVES THE RIGHT TO SEEK THAT TRANSPARENCY FROM ANY ENTITY

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WHAT IS WITHIN OUR AUTHORITY AS CITY COUNCIL IS TRULY HOW WE UPHOLD OUR LOCAL VALUES AND I HEARD THAT VERY LOUDLY AND CLEARLY TONIGHT AND TOIPT THANK ALL OF YOU FOR HOPING THAT YOU WILL ALL RESPECTFULLY CREATE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO VALUE SAFETY, RESPECT AND DIGNITY OF EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY. OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DOES DEPEND ON THE TRUST, SO THAT RESIDENTS CAN CALL THE POLICE WHEN THEY NEED HELP, THAT CHILDREN CAN ATTEND SCHOOL WITHOUT FEAR AND THAT DOCTORS CAN TREAT ALL HUMAN BEINGS THAT REQUIRE CARE WHEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. SO, I UNDERSTAND THAT LEGAL LIMITATIONS -- THAT WE HAVE LEGAL LIMITATIONS BUT THEY DO NOT LIMIT OUR COLLECTIVE CIVIL RESPONSIBILITY TO PUSH BACK AGAINST ANY ABUSES OF CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION THAT IS WE ALL DESERVE AND HAVE, SO THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR MAKING THOSE STATEMENTS AND ONCE

AGAIN, I APPRECIATE IT. >> ANYBODY ELSE? >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, FOR RECOGNIZING ME. I WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY TONIGHT AND I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE COMMENTS THAT I HAVE HEARD BECAUSE IT SHOWS TO ME THE CONCERN AND THE FEAR AND THE UNKNOWN THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS FEELING , AND FOR THAT, I FEEL VERY, VERY BADLY. IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS FACILITY HAS CAUSED GENUINE ANXIETY IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN CARMEL, WE PROVIDE OURSELVES ON BEING SAFE. I HEAR THAT OVER AND OVER, NOT ONLY TONIGHT, FROM THE MAYOR, BUT ALSO THE E-MAILS THAT I HAVE RECEIVED.

WE'RE A WELCOMING PLACE TO RAISE OUR FAMILIES, SO WHEN AN ENTITY LIKE THIS MOVES INTO OUR COMMUNITY, I KNOW THAT IT IS NATURAL FOR ALL OF US, ALL OF US, TO ASK HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE HOME THAT I LOVE, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE PEOPLE THAT I LOVE.

SO, MY GOAL TONIGHT IS TO NOT DISMISS THE FEARS AND I'M NOT GOING TO ENGAGE IN THE BROADER NATIONAL DEBATE ABOUT THIS AGENCY, BUT I THINK THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO AT THE LOCAL LEVEL THAT CAN RESPOND TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING TO US AND LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE.

THE FIRST ONE IS AS A LEADER IN THIS COMMUNITY, I WANT TO ENSURE THAT NOT ONLY JUST THE PEOPLE LIVING HERE BUT THE PEOPLE WORKING HERE, THE PEOPLE PASSING THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY, TRAVELING THROUGH CARMEL, EVERYONE IS SAFE. AND THAT I HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE I CAN RELY ON CARMEL POLICE DEPARTMENT. I BELIEVE THAT THEY ALWAYS HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF EVERYONE AT HEART AND I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT AND I'M GOING TO ASK THE MAYOR AND CHIEF STERLING TO CONTINUE TO GUARANTEE IT. BUT SECONDLY AND MAYBE MORE IMPORTANTLY IS THAT I BELIEVE WE HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY IN DELIVERING INFORMATION.

TRANSPARENCY. I HEARD THAT TONIGHT FROM MR. ROGER.

WE ONLY CAN RESPOND TO WHAT WE KNOW TO BE TRUE AND WE HAVE BEEN ASSURED AT LEAST FOR TODAY THAT THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE, WITHOUT DETENTION, WITHOUT THE OTHER THINGS GOING ON IN OTHER FACILITIES, BUT AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT, WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG THAT WILL LAST, SO HOW CAN WE AS A COUNCIL CREATE A PIPELINE OF INFORMATION THAT IS FACTUAL, IS TEMPERED, REASONED, AND COMING FROM A SOURCE THAT WE CAN ALL TRUST AND BELIEVE IN? HOW CAN WE DO THAT? I THINK WE STILL HAVE SOME CONVERSATION, BUT MAYOR FINKAM, I AM LINING TO LOOK TO YOU TO LEAD US AS YOU CAN AND ALLAY ANY FEARS AS MUCH AS YOU

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SO, -- AND I PLEDGE TO WORK WITH YOU IN ANY WAY THAT I CAN IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO, FINALLY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. BECAUSE THIS IS EXACTLY HOW LOCAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD WORK AND IT'S EXACTLY HOW WE KNOW THE BEST WAY TO RESPOND.

I HAVE NEVER BEEN FACED WITH AN ICE FACILITY BEFORE, SO I AM LEARNING ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND I WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE AND DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DEAL WITH THIS APPROPRIATELY, WITH THE FACTS, AND THAT I DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO ANY FEARS, THAT I DO NOT SAY OR DO ANYTHING THAT WILL MAKE THE SITUATION WORSE.

SO, WE ALL CAN BE FIRM IN OUR COMMENTS, FIRM IN OUR SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH, BUT I KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET THIS ISSUE OR THE ONE THAT WILL COME A YEAR, TWO YEARS, TEN YEARS FROM NOW, WE WILL NOT ALLOW IT TO DIVIDE US. I KNOW THAT I CAN RELY ON YOU FOR THAT AND YOU CAN RELY ON ME TO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO ANY DIVISION.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COMMUNITY REMAINS FOR YOU THE HIGHEST QUALITY IT CAN BE AND WHAT WE ALL DESERVE, SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS MOMENT TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS.

>> AND JUST TO KIND OF PUT A CAP ON THAT, AS WE ARE LOOKING FROM THIS SIDE OF THIS TABLE WHICH IS THE SAME AS THAT SIDE OF THE TABLE, WE JUST HAPPEN TO RUN FOR OFFICE AND BE UP HERE, KNOW FULL WELL THAT EVERY PIECE OF INFORMATION YOU HAVE, EVERY QUESTION, EVERY THOUGHT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO TAKE IN AND ENSURE BEARE MAKING THE BEST DECISIONS WE POSSIBLY CAN, SO TO COUNCIL WORRELL'S POINT WEBSINGER ARE OPERATING IN UNCHARTERED TERRITORY WITH NATIONAL ISSUES, WITH LOCAL ISSUES, UNDERSTANDING HOW WE CAN BEST SUPPORT AND PUT YOU IN A POSITION, US IN A POSITION, OUR FAMILIES, OUR NEIGHBORS, OTHER HUMAN BEINGS IN A POSITION TO FEEL SAFE, SECURE, SOUND, THAT'S WHAT THIS ENTIRE EXPERIMENT OF AMERICAN GOVERNMENT IS ABOUT, SO, IT IS A BIZARRE THING TO BE FACING A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED WHICH IS A LIGHT WORD ABOUT OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, KNOW FULL WELL WITH VE CHECKS AND BALANCES, SWRE THE ABILITY TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS, LOCAL DECISIONS, AND TO HELP EACH OTHER THROUGH. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE ALL PEOPLE, WE'RE HUMAN BEINGS, WE MATTER FOR AS LONG AS I WOULD SAY THE NINE OF US ARE SITTING UP HERE, THE TEN OF US THAT ARE ELECTED IN THIS ROOM KNOW FULL WELL THIS IS YOUR CITY, SO DO NOT HESITATE TO SEND ANY THOUGHT, ANY FEELING, ANY FEEDBACK, ANY IDEAS, ARTICLES FROM MERIVILLE, ANYWHERE, SEND THEM OUR WAY AND WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO ENSURE THAT THIS THING WE'RE DOING TOGETHER TO RAISE OUR KIDS, TO TAKE CARE OF OUR LOVED ONES TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT US ARE SUPPORTED IS DONE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. SO, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE, DON'T TAKE SILENCE AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN WE'RE TRYING TO GET INFORMATION AND THAT COULD BE COMING FROM YOU, SO PLEASE DO NOT STOP. THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE TO ADD, EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID, PEOPLE SAID IT MORE ELOQUENTLY. I WANTED TO CHIME IN JUST TO LEND SUPPORT AND ECHO MY FELLOW CITY COUNCILORS THANKING EVERYONE FOR GIVING THEIR FEEDBACK, WE CARE ABOUT YOU AND THE CITY AND PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME, IF I CAN BE OF HELP IN ANY WAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR THOUGHTS TONIGHT. >> ALRIGHT.

SO, WE WILL CONTINUE TO EXAMINE ANY LAWFUL REMEDY THAT COULD HELP MITIGATE FEARS WHILE STILL NOT SWINGING THE PENDULUM COMPLETELY THE OTHER DIRECTION AS WELL.

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( MEETING IN RECESS ). >> WE WILL READJOURN HERE AT 6:59, NEXT UP, CONSENT AGENDA,

[8. CONSENT AGENDA ]

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> JUST MAY I -- YES, DISCUSSION, PLEASE, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD FOR THE RECORD THAT IN THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES -- EXCUSE ME ME, THE SPECIAL CLAIMS MEETING, FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU PLEASE CORRECT MY NAME IN THE MEETING MINUTES.

>> I MEAN, I WASN'T GOING TO THROW YOU UNDER THE BUS, BUT I AM, IN THE LAST MINUTES, MY

NAME IS MISSPELLED AS WELL. >> SO, IT'S NOT JUST MY NAME, THAT'S THE DIFFICULT ONE.

THEY'RE COMPLICATED, YEAH. THANK YOU, JESSICA. >> SWRE -- WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IT CARRIES. APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM

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FEBRUARY 2, REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> CLAIMS, PAYROLL IN THE AMOUNT OF 4 MILLION 738 THOUSAND 528 DOLLARS 50 CENT AND IS CPD VACATION/SICK BUY BACK/UNIFORM ALLOWANCE, 391 THOUSAND 292 THOUSAND 94 CENT, GENERAL CLAIMS, 2 3* MILLION 235 THOUSAND 61 DOLLARS 41 CENT, PURCHASE CARD, 31 THOUSAND 880 DOLLARS 21 CENTS, RETIREMENT, 173 THOUSAND 471 DOLLARS 43 CENTS. WIRE TRANSFER, 4 MILLION 269 THOUSAND 6189 DOLLARS 28

CENTS. >> MOVED. ER

>> SECOND. >> MOTION ON VETOES, NONE. COMMITTEE REPORTS, FIRST UP,

LIBRARY BOARD. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> MY GOODNESS, I'LL SKIP OVER

YOU ALL. >> GO AHEAD, BOB, WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT, SORRY.

[10. COMMITTEE REPORTS ]

LAND USE. >> OUR LAST MEETING PRIMARILY FOCUS ON THE 31 U.S. SUB CORRIDOR, SO WE HAD SOME WONDERFUL DISCUSSION WITH NEIGHBORS, I THINK WE ARE MOVING FORWARD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THERE ARE SOME CHANGES COMING AND WE ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THOSE AGAIN. ON WEDNESDAY AT 5:30 AT THE CARMEL PUBLIC LIBRARY SO FOR ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US, THEY'RE WELCOME.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR LAND USE? FINANCE? >> THANK YOU, WE MET LAST TUESDAY, WE WE *F REVIEWED THE START OF THE BEGIN REVIEW OF THE DISABILITY COMMITTEE ORDINANCE AND STRUCTURE AND WE ALSO RECEIVED A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE ERP SYSTEM AND THERE WAS A MOTION MADE TO RECOMMEND TO THE FULL COUNCIL THAT WE MOVE FORWARD FURTHER WITH THE REVIEW AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT ERP SYSTEM, IT PASSED EWE NANS -- UNANIMOUSLY.

[11.f. Library Board (Annual – February) ]

THAT'S MY REPORT. >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN TAYLOR. MR. [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU. PRESIDENT *F MY NAME IS BOB SWAOEN NAO*E, THE DIRECTOR OF CARMEL CLAY PUBLIC LIBRARY, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING AS THE DIRECTOR, THIS IS MY TENTH REPORT TO THE COUNCIL, I'VE HAD A BIT OF REFLECTION ON THAT, IT'S DIFFERENT COUNCIL THAN THE ONE I FOUND THE TEN YEARS A WE HAVE THE DIFFERENT MAYOR, REALLY THE CITY OF CARMEL IS DIFFERENT THAN TEN YEARS AGO AND THE LIBRARY IS DIFFERENT THAN TEN YEARS AGO. I WANTED TO GO A LITTLE BIT BEYOND JUST TEN YEARS THOUGH, SINCE IT'S THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE KUNT RISING IT'S THE 50TH AN NIVERSARY OF CARMEL AS A CITY. I WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE HISTORY.

BEFORE I DO THAT, PRESIDENT SNYDER, I ASSUME YOU DIDN'T MEAN ME THAT YOU ASSUMED IT

WOULD BE BORING, THIS IS AN EXCEPTION. >> [INAUDIBLE]

>> AND THEBEFORE I GET GOING, JUST AS EXTENSION OF THE COMMENTS I LISTENED TO, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I HAVE HEARD SOME CONCERN FROM LIBRARY STAFF, THERE'S SOME FEAR AND SANG SITE ON BEHALF OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE PEOPLE WE SERVE AND ONE THING THE LIBRARY HAS IN COMMON WITH THE CITY OF CARMEL IS THE LIBRARY ALSO SERVINGES EVERY RESIDENT IN THE COMMUNITY, SO I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CONCERN. LET'S GO BACK TO THE HISTORY OF THE LIBRARY IN CARMEL WHICH I THINK IS REALLY FUN AND INTERESTING AND STARTED -- THE LIBRARY IN CARMEL WAS START BY THE WEDNESDAY LITERARY CLUB, THEY'RE STILL AROUND.

I THINK THIS IS JUST A FASCINATING PIECE OF HISTORY, ONE BEING THERE'S A LARGER TREND HERE THAT WHAT WE SEE IN CARMEL WAS TRENDING ACROSS THE COUNTRY AT THE TIME ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IN DIFFERENT STATES. WOMEN'S SOCIAL GROUPS, THE WEDNESDAY LITERARY CLUB HERE IN CARMEL, THEY GOT TOGETHER, THEY STARTED HAVING BOOK DISCUSSIONS AND THEN THEY STARTED POOLING THEIR MONEY AND TAKING BOOKS UP AND THEY SET UP A TABLE AT THE TELEPHONE TABLE DOWNTOWN AND

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SO, IN 1963, THE CARNEGIE LIBRARY WAS RENOVATED TO EXPAND THE CHILDREN'S AREA WAS PLACED IN THE BASEMENT, THEY NEEDED THE ROOM, CARMEL GREW A LOT BETWEEN 1960 AND 1970, ALTHOUGH STILL SMAUM. FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1971, AND THE SECOND DEDICATED LIBRARY BUILDING OPENED IN 1972. AND I STILL TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT FEEL LIKE EITHER ONE OF THESE LIBRARIES WAS SOMEBODY'S BELOVED CHILDHOOD LIBRARY WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT MEMORIES THAT ARE STILL THERE.

THE FIRST HIGH SCHOOL COLLECTION IN 1983 AND BECAME THE CARMEL CLAY PUBLIC LIBRARY IN 1986. OUT OF SPACE, THAT BUILDING WAS OUT OF SPACE RENOVATED AND EXPANDED ALSO IN 1986, BUT THAT WAS A SHORT TERM FIX, CARMEL WAS GROWING QUICKLY AND THE LIBRARY IN ORDER TO KEEP PACE WITH THE GROWTH OPENED THE NEW BUILDING, THE THIRD LOCATION IN 1999, AND FIRST LIBRARY WEBSITE IN 96, WE EXCEEDED 1 MILLION IN CIRCULATION FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT YEAR. TODAY WE'RE 2.1 MILLION IN CIRCULATION, BUT IT'S A LARGER POPULATION WE'RE SERVING. WE DID HAVE A BOOK DROP ATTEMPT IN THAT 1999 BUILDING THAT FAILED, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS INNOVATIVE AND SOMETIMES WHEN YOU TRY INNOVATE I EVER THING, IT DOESN'T WORK. WE TRIED, IT DIDN'T WORK SO IT TOOK 20 YEARS TO COME BACK AROUND AND THE NEW VERSION OF THE LIBRARY, WE WERE FINALLY ABLE TO OFFER DROP OFF BOOK RETURN SERVICE WHICH PEOPLE DO LOVE. WE DID SOME THINGS MANY THE YEARS. I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGER THINGS WAS THE RFID TECHNOLOGY WHICH AUTOMATES A LOT OF HOW WE HANDLE OUR MATERIALS. IT'S A KEY TO HOW WE'RE ABLE TO OPERATE SO EFFICIENTLY TODAY. AND WE LAUNCHED OUR DIGITAL MEDIA LAB DOWNTOWN IN 2016.

THAT WAS ALSO AN EXPERIMENT THAT COULD EASILY HAVE FAILED BUT IT DIDN'T BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY RESPONDED. THE COMMUNITY LOVED IT, THEY FIGURED IT OUT AND USED IT SO THAT BECAME A KEY COMPONENT OF THE NEW LIBRARY WE CURRENTLY OPERATE IN.

WE BEGAN VISIONING TO COME UP WITH THE NEXT ITERATION OF THE LIBRARY IN 2017.

I THINK ONE OF THE MOST MEMORABLE THINGS OUT OF THAT VISIONING PROCESS IS WE DID ENGAGE A FIRM TO CONDUCT A PROFESSIONAL SURVEY OF THE COMMUNITY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT OPINIONS OF THE LIBRARY AND TO GIVE US SOME MORE TO GO ON AND WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS WOULD BE.

WHAT REALLY STRUCK ME WAS 96 OR 97 PERCENT TOF POPULATION SAID THEY LOVE THE LIBRARY.

THAT'S -- I FOUND THAT REALLY INCREDIBLE. WE ALSO SAW IN THAT SURVEY THAT THEREAFTER STRONG DESIRE FOR A BRANCH IN THE WEST PART OF CARMEL AND THAT'S SO IT WAS BASED OFF OF THAT DATA WE MOVED FORWARD ON THE WEST BRANCH. AND YEAH, WE'VE MADE OUR OWN HISTORY WHILE WE WERE CLOSED, WE SPENT TWO YEARS IN MERCHANT SQUARE MAIN LIBRARY IN THE MERCHANT SQUARE SHOPPING CENTER, MEMORABLE TIME, HAPPENED TO OVERLAP WITH THE PANDEMIC YEAR, THAT WASN'T PLANNED, A LITTLE BIT OF A HAPPY ACCIDENT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD OUR FULL LIBRARY AVAILABLE IN THOSE YEARS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, EVEN IF WE HAD STAYED, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIMITED BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THOSE YEARS.

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WHEN WE DID REOPEN, WE RECEIVED NATIONAL ATTENTION, THAT WAS A BLURB WE RECEIVED FROM LIBRARY JOURNAL THA,'S A NATIONAL PUBLICATION THAT EVERY LIBRARY IN THE COUNTRY SAW THIS, IT'S A HOT T ISSUE EVERY OCTOBER, THE DESIGN SPOTLIGHT HAPPENS, SO WE WERE IN THERE.

JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE STRUCTURE OF THE LIBRARY, SO OUR REPORT TO A 7 MEMBER BOARD AND WE HAVE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, I'M IN ADMINISTRATION, WE HAVE ADULT SERVICES, CIRCULATION, IT, TEEN SERVICES, TECHNICAL S*FRTSES THA,'S CATALOGUING AND ACQUISITION OF SERVICE, YOUTH S*FRS AND IS WE HAVE A STRONG FOUNDATION.

OUR FOUNDATION DIRECTOR, LIZ HAMILTON IS WITH ME TONIGHT. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR BUDGET, OUR WORKING BUDGET OF ROUGHLY 10 MILLION, THE PIE CHART T BLUE, SALARY AND BENEFITS, 75% OF OUR BUDGET T GREEN IS WHAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, 20% OF OUR BUDGET ON COLLECTION AND MATERIALS, THAT IS GOLD STANDARD, STATE MINIMUM STANDARDS SPECIFIES THAT LIBRARIES MUST SPEND 7% OF THEIR BUDGET ON MATERIALS, THERE ARE A LOT OF LIBRARIES ACROSS THE STATE WITH FAR SMALLER BUDGETS THAN US AND 7% IS ABOUT ALL THEY CAN MANAGE.

BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS PEOPLE LOVE OUR LIBRARY, IN THAT SURVEY, 96, 97% OF PEOPLE LOVE THE LIBRARY, IMBED INED THAT, THE THING THEY LOVE THE MOST WAS THE SIDE AND BREADTH OF THE COLLECTION, THEY LOVED THE VASTNESS THAT COULD BE EXPLORED THROUGH THE COLLECTION IN THE LIBRARY. I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT JUST IN RECENT YEARS, WE'VE BEEN SEINING OUR TAX RATE FALL TAX RATES ARE GOING TO DO A LOT OF THINGS ACROSS THE STATE BUT WE'VE BEEN ON A GOOD TREND LINE. DOOR COUNT, WE DID CLOSE THE BRANCH IN AUGUST/SEPTEMBER FOR SOME IMPRAO*UFRMENTSES SOS WE'RE -- WE LAD TO REDO THE HVAC SYSTEM, WE NEEDED NEW WINDOWS IN THE FRONT, WE NEEDED TO DO REPAIR INS THE FRONT, WE'RE ADDING SOLAR PANELS, WE ADDED BOOK LOCKERS, WE NEEDED TO GET RID TOF DESKS THAT WAS IN THERE AND PUT IN A MORE FUNCTIONAL DECEMBER SOCK WE DID ALL THAT. THE BRANCH IS PREPARING TO CLOSE GEP ON MONDAY TO FINISH UP THE WORK. WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE MATERIALS IN HAND TO COMPLETE THE ROOFING, SO THAT WORK WILL BE COMPLETED OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MAIN LIBRARY DID HAVE A RECORD AMOUNT OF VISITS, 540 THOUSAND PLUS VISITS. I'M NOT GOING LINGER ON A LOT OF THIS, AGAIN, WE SERVE EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT MEANS CRADLE TO GRAVE FROM AGE OF BIRTH TO SENIOR CITIZENS WHICH HAVE PROGRAMS FOR EVERYONE, PROGRAMS ARE NOT LIMIT TODAY WHAT WE'RE DOING TAT LIBRARY. WE TRY TO BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IN EVERY WAY WE CAN INCLUDING SERVING HOME BOUND CLAY BOUND PATRONS, IF THE THERE IS A PERSON WHO WANT TOS ACCESS THE LIBRARY SERVICE INS THE COMMUNITY AND THEY CAN'T GET TO LIBRARY, THEY'RE HOME BOUND, THEY CAN CONTACT US, THEY CAN SIGN UP TO RECEIVE THESE SERVICES.

THE MEETING ROOMS, IT WAS MENTIONED THE LAND USE COMMITTEE MEETS TAT LIBRARY, WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES AND NON-PROFIT THAT IS MEET AT THE LIBRARY, THERE WAS 114 BUSINESSES, BUSINESS RESERVATION, 408 NON-PROFIT RESERVATIONS.

ON THE BUSINESS SIDE, WE DON'T TRANCHE NON-PROFITS BUT WE HAVE A SMALL RATE FOR BUSINESSES AND ON ANY GIVEN DAY, YOU CAN WALK IN THE LIBRARY AND YOU MIGHT SEE A BUSINESS CONDUCTING TRAINING WITH THEIR WORKFORCE OR NON-PROFIT BOARD MEETING OR A BOOK DISCUSSION FROM THE LIBRARY HAPPENING, OUR ROOMS ARE PRETTY VITAL AND THEY'RE WELL USED AND IT'S NEAT TO SEE IT BECAUSE YOU CAN JUST SEE A LITTLE MICROCOSM OF OUR COMMUNITY IN THE LIBRARY.

CIRCULATION, I MENTIONED WE'RE AT 2.1, A LITTLE OVER 2.1 MILLION IN CIRCULATION WHICH IS GREAT. THIS IS I THINK REALLY WHERE WE SHOULD BE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WE DIPPED DOWN BECAUSE OF RENOVATION, PANDEMIC AND I'M STILL WATCH THING NEW LIBRARY CARDS CLOSELY BECAUSE FOR A LONG TIME, WE AVERAGE 4 OR 5 THOUSAND NEW LIBRARY CARDS A YEAR. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NEVER HAD A A LIBRARY CARD, THEY'RE COMING IN TO GET THEIR FIRST LIBRARY CARD AND SO IT'S BEEN TEN THOUSAND, 8 THOUSAND, 9 THOUSAND TERRITORY SINCE WE REOPENED AND PART OF THAT'S MAYBE EXPLAINED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE LARGER, NICER LIBRARY. THERE'S AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE STILL MOVING HERE BUT I DON'T TOTALLY HAVE AN EXPLANATION FOR IT, IT'S NICE TO SEE THIS MANY CARD MEMBERS COME IN EVERY YEAR

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THIS IS FUN, I SHARED THAT WITH YOU LAST YEAR, THIS IS THE MOST VITAL VIDEO THE LIBRARY HAS EVER DONE, THIS IS A DIGITAL MEDIA LAB, IT'S A LITTLE FIDGET, WE POST THIRSTED ON INSTAGRAM, YOU CAN SEE IT'S OVER 30 MILLION VIEWS, IT WENT VIRAL, THIS IS THE MOST POPULAR THING THE LIBRARY'S EVER DONE, I HAVE NO IDEA WHY, THE DIGITAL MEDIA LAB SA FANTASTIC SPACE, I MYSELF HAVE USED SOME EQUIPMENT IN THERE THIS YEAR, I WAS ABLE TO GO IN THERE AND RECORD SOME VIDEOS AND THE STAFF TREATED ME LIKE THEY DID A PATRON, HOW IS THIS, ANYBODY CAN GO IN THERE AND ASK FOR HELP TO USE THE EQUIPMENT, OUR STAFF WILL GO OVER IT WITH YOU, TROUBLESHOOT WITH YOU, I THINK THAT'S A REAL DISTINCTION FROM OTHER SIMILAR YOU MIGHT SEE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE STAFF THAT'S THERE THAT WILL HELP, WILL INTERACT WITH YOU AND PEOPLE DO THAT ALL THE TIME, SO IT'S FUN TO SEE. AND WE GET A PLUG IN, WE'RE HAVING OUR 3-D PRINTING EXPO, THAT IS ALWAYS A FUN DAY, FEBRUARY 28, WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF VENDORS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE, BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THE 3-D PRINTING WORLD THAT WILL BE THERE. KIDS LOVE IT TELEVISING'S ALL KIND OF COOL THING TOS SEE AND YOU CAN DROP BY, CHECK IT OUT. THAT'S ON A SATURDAY ON THE 28TH.

ADULT SERVICES, THEY'RE BASED ON THE SECOND FLOOR, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE ROLLED OUT WAS THE LUCKY DAY COLLECTION, IT'S IN THE DISPLAY AREA. THE CONCEPT OF THAT IS BRAND NEW BEST SELLING BOOKS THAT OUR PATRONS WILL PUT HOLDS ON AND WAIT PATIENTLY FOR.

WE BOUGHT THING THAT IS IT'S NOT POSSIBLE O BUTT A HOLD ON THEM, THAT MEANS IT IS POSSIBLE TO WALK IN THE LIBRARY AND DISCOVER A BRAND NEW BOOK THAT WAS JUST RELEASED, IT MAYBE SITTING ON THE SHEFT THERE AND YOU CAN GRAB IT. COME TO THE LIBRARY AND SEE IF IT'S YOUR LUCKY DAY. GAD J*ET COLLECTION, WE'RE ALWAYS ADD TOG THIS SO IT'S NOT A STATIC COLLECTION, WE'VE ADDED HIKING POLES, YAOUK LAY UKULELE, I WENT BACK TO SEE BONACULARS, THIS IS POPULAR FOR FAMILIES, THE ADULT SECTION TOO, WHY WOULD THAT BE, I MAINTAIN THAT I THINK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US, EVERYBODY HAS DIGITAL FATIGUE AND PEOPLE WANT THING TOS DO THAT DON'T INVOLVE STARING AT SCREENS, BUT IT'S FUN COLLECTION.

IT CAN BE A LOT OF WORK ON US BUT THAT'S OKAY, WE ENJOY DOING IT.

EVERY TIME ONE OF THESE GAMES CHECKED OUT, I HAVE SOMEBODY COUNTS ALL THE PIECES, DOES AN INVENTORY AND MAKE SURE IT'S ALL THERE SO IT'S READY FOR THE NEXT PERSON SO YOU'RE ASSURED WHEN YOU DO CHECK IT OUT, YOU HAVE THE COMPLETE GAME. OKAY, YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THIS A LOT, IT'S ALWAYS WORTH NOTING AND THERE'S A LOT OF FANS OF THE LIBBY APP, THAT'S WHERE YOU LISTEN TO DOWNLOADABLE AUDIO OR E WILL HAVE -- E-BOOKS, IF MORE THAN ONE PEOPLE WANT A COPY, YOU MIGHT HAVE ON A WAIT LIST FOR IT.

WE PURCHASE ITEMS TO BE IN THIS COLLECTION. AND THE MAGAZINE SELECTION IS REALLY GOOD, SO IF YOU ARE AGREEABLE TO TRYING TO READ A MAGAZINE ON A TABLET OR A PC, THAT KIND OF FORMAT, CHECK THAT OUT, THERE ARE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF MAGAZINES.

HUPLA IS DOWNLOADABLE AUDIO, IT'S NOT CURE LATE RATED -- CURATED BY OUR IT IS A PAPER USE MODEL. THAT'S ALSO GOING UP, IT'S INCREASED EVERY YEAR IN THE TEN

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THEY ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON, IT'S A STORY TIME PROGRAM, IT'S DYNAMIC, THE YOUTH SERVICES AREA, IT'S A DESTINATION PLACE, I TALK TO FAMILIES, I SEE FAMILIES THERE ALL THE TIME. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OUR STAFF HAS WORKING IS IT'S SO NOISY BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THERE. YOU HAVE TO REMIND THEM, IT'S IN THE GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE CATEGORY. TEEN SERVICES, ALSO WE LOVE OUR TEENS, WE HAVE OUR TEEN LIEB BRARY COUNCIL, OVER 100 TEENS ON THERE, THEY'RE AMAZING, THEY HELP US WITH ALL KINDS OF PLANNING EVENTS AND A LOT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS AND A LOT OF TEENS THERE AFTER SCHOOL. I ALWAYS LIKE TO MENTION THIS ONE, THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES AND I'VE HELPED OUT IN THIS ONE BEFORE, GAM -- GAMBET CHESS PROGRAM, THEY RUN THIS WITH OUR TEEN LIBRARIANS AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT IT, YOU GO IN THERE AND SEE KIDS PLAYING WITH -- I SEE KIDS PLAYING WITH SENIOR CITIZENS, PEOPLE JUST PAIR OFF AND PLAY.

TEY DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER, THEY MATCH UP WITH SKILL LEVEL F YOU'RE UP FOR IT AND YOU THINK YOU CAN TAKE IT, COME DROP BY AND MAYBE A KID WILL BEAT YOU AT CHESS.

AND I THINK IT'S TIME TO GIVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A DEEPER EXPLAIN AROUND THIS, WE HAVE AN ARTIST IN RESIDENCY SPACE, SWRE A STUDIO SPACE THAT WE CREATED AS AS PART OF OUR TEEN DEPARTMENT WEBSINGER EVE DONE THIS LONG ENOUGH NOW WHERE THERE IS MORE TO SHARE SO, WE HAVE HAD 35 ARTISTS, GRADE 6-12, THEY'VE DONE COLLECTIVELY OVER A THOUSAND STUDIO VISITS SO WE HAVE THE STUDIO, WE CAN HAVE THREE TO FOUR PER SM*ERS, IT'S AN APPLICATION PROCESS BECAUSE THERE ARE ALWAYS MORE THAN *F -- THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO IT, THEY GET EXPERIENCE WITH APPLYING, THE TEEN LIBRARIAN COORDINATE WIDTHS THEM, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CULMINATING EXPERIENCE WHERE THEY HAVE AN ART DISPLAY AT THE END OR TEACH AN ART CLASS IN THE END AND THE ART THAT'S COME THROUGH THIS IS JUST ABSOLUTELY STUNNING, AMAZING.

I'M ALWAYS JUST -- TOTALLY AMAZED AT THE QUALITY OF ART THAT OUR KIDS IN CARMEL ARE PUTTING OUT, THIS IS A PICTURE FROM LAST YEAR, WE HAD A STUDENT, SHE DID -- CREATED HER OWN CHILDREN'S BOOK IN THE STUDIO SPACE, BSOCO THE DRAGON, IT CAN BE CHECKED OUT, BEAUTIFUL BOOK, BEAUTIFUL ART WORK AND THAT PICTURE THAT DAY, WE WERE HAVING OUR LIBRARY WIDE NERD FEST PROGRAM, BUT I FEELS WALKING AROUND TOURING THE JAPANESE DELEGATION FROM OUR SISTER CITY SO, THEY WERE THERE, AND THIS ARTIST, THIS TEEN ARTIST GOT INTO A CONVERSATION WITH THE JAPANESE MAYOR ABOUT HELPING HIM OUT WITH A NEW LOGO AND THEY EXCHANGED INFORMATION AND SO THAT WAS PRETTY NEAT. THIS ONE WAS -- THIS TEEN WAS THE FIRST ARTIST THAT WE HOSTED WHEN WE REOPENED THE LIBRARY AND HER WORK IS JUST INCREDIBLE.

SHE WAS TRYING TO EXPLORE HER CHINESE HERITAGE, SHE DESIGNED HER OWN CLOTHES, SHE MADE HER OWN CLOTHES, SCREEN PRINTED THEM, WENT INTO THE DIGITAL MEDIA LAB, THIS GOT FEE -- FEATURE INED AMERICA'S LIBRARY MAGAZINE, SO THESE KIDS ARE WORKING IN ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT MEDIUM AND IS DOING HAD THIS -- DOING ALL THIS FOR ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT REASONS.

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BUT I DO THINK THIS IS A GOOD PARTNERSHIP AND IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE LIBRARY O DO THIS AND THIS IS A VERY CONVENIENT PLACE IF PEOPLE KNOW THEY FEEL AND THEY CAN COME VOTE AND EVERYBODY CAN COME VOTE HERE IN THE EARLY VOTING DAYS. WE HAVE AN AMAZING FOUNDATION, SO THE TALK WOULDN'T BE COMPLETE WITHOUT NOTING THAT. THERE'S ANY KIND OF WAYS PEOPLE CAN SUPPORT THE LIBRARY, THEY CAN GIVE TO OUR FOUNDATION, THEY CAN GET INVOLVED WITH OUR FOUNDATION, THERE IS A FOUNDATION BOARD THAT MS. HAMILTON WORKS WITH.

THERE'S THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, THEY RUN THE BOOKSTORE, THEY RUN OUR BOOK SALES, SO THERE'S ANY NUMBER OF WAYS TO POTENTIALLY GET INVOLVED.

AND I JUST WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PLUG THIS, MARCH 21 OF THIS YEAR, OUR LIBRARY AFTER DARK A FUN EVENT, A TICKETED FOUNDATION EVENT, TICKETS ARE CURRENTLY ON SALE AND IF YOU'RE IN THE LIBRARY AFTER HOUR AND IS THERE'S FOOD AND DRINKS AND GAMES AND IT'S JUST KIND OF FUN TO BE IN THERE. YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT SNEAKING, YOU'RE IN THE LIBRARY WHEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE, IT'S A LIBRARY AFTER DARK FUN EVENT, CHECK THAT OUT AND GUILD A LEAF EVERY OCTOBER. AND THERE WE HAVE OUR FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY AND I'LL JUST CLOSE BY SAYING THE LIBRARY STAFF, ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS, WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, WE ARE ALL COMMITTED AND DEDICATED TO THE LIBRARY'S MISSION AND TO PROVIDING WORLD CLASS LIBRARY SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT AMAZING PRESENTATION, AS ALWAYS. IT'S AS BEAUTIFUL AS YOUR TIE, I'VE BEEN ADMIRING IT SIPS YOU'VE BEEN STANDING HERE. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AND I WOULD LIKE TO PLUG FOR THE COMMUNITY IS THE AVERAGE AGE IN THIS ROOM SEEMS TO BE AROUND MY AGE AND ONE OF THE ITEMS YOU HAVE IN THE LIBRARY IS THE VHS TO DVD AND --

>> YES, THAT'S IN OUR GADGET KL*EKT COLLECTION. >> FOR ALL OF US VCR HOLDERS, MAYBE YOUR WEDDING, IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO OUR LIBRARY AND CHECK IT OUT, SO ONE OF MY FAVORITE PLACE TOS GO TO. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR

PRESENTATION TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU. >> WELL, I JUST -- JUST A QUICK THANK YOU TO YOU AND LIZ HAMILTON, YOU HOSTED THE FIRST INAUGURAL NATIONAL CIVILITY SUMMIT AND THE COMMENTS THAT I HEARD FROM, WE HAD PEOPLE COME FROM 17 DIFFERENT STATES AND THEY WERE ABSOLUTELY BLOWN AWAY BY THE LIBRARY, NOT ONLY BY THE FACILITIES BUT BY THE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE AND JUST THE KINDNESS AND GRACIOUSNESS, WITHOUT BELABORING, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE TO PROJECT CIVILITY.

>> THANK YOU, SOMEBODY E-MAILED ME TODAY THANKING ME FOR THE KINDNESS THEY RECEIVED FROM KLIEB RARE STAFF. I FEEL LIKE THAT IS CARMEL, RIGHT, OUR STAFF IS REFLECTING THE VALUES OF CARMEL BY PROVIDING THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE. ALSO I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT, ONE EXTRA MOMENT AGAIN TO THANK LIZ HAMILTON, SHE IS GOING TO BE RETIRING THIS YEAR AND SO THAT IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE COUNTED AS A BIG CHALLENGE FOR THE LIBRARY TO GET BY WITHOUT HER, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT LIZ DID THAT'S UNCOMMON AMONG LIBRARY FOUNDATIONS IS SHE JUST BUILT AN INCREDIBLE RELATIONSHIP WITH PUBLISHERS AND AUTHORS, SO IF ANYBODY HAS ENJOYED AN AUTHOR PROGRAM AT THE LIBRARY, THE ODDS ARE VERY GOOD THAT YOU HAVE LIZ HAMILTON TO THANK FOR THAT, SO IT'S GOING TO BE A REAL CHALLENGE FOR US TO KEEP THE MOMENTUM THAT SHE CREATED FOR US TO KEEP IT GOING AND NOT LOSE IT. THANK YOU, LIZ.

[APPLAUSE]. >> WELL, ONE OF THE WORST PARTS OF BEING PRESIDENT IS I'M GOING TO HAVE TO WRITE THAT LETTER TO MICHAEL TO LET HIM YOU SURPASSED HIM ON MOST THOROUGH

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YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FOUNDATION IS UNLIKE ANY I HAVE EVER SEEN AND, I MEAN, IT'S FANTASTIC, MY INVOLVEMENT FOR MANY YEARS AND I KNOW RICH IS INTIMATELY INVOLVER, FROM AN OBSERVER, IT'S BEEN WONDER FM. YOUR GAMES, DID YOU ACCEPT DONATIONS OF GAMES, THE BOARD

GAMES? >> WE DO ACCEPT DOUGHNATION, THAT GOES IN THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY TERRITORY, OUR FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY GENERALLY HANDLE THAT.

THERE ARE CASES WHERE -- I'M MAINLY THINKING OF BOOKS, OUR LIBRARIANS CAN HAVE THE OPTION OFADDING A DONATED ITEM, LARGELY IT GOES TO THE FRIENDS AND THEY DECIDE, MAKE SOME DECISIONS ABOUT WHETHER IT GOES TO BOOKSTORE, FALL SALE OR HAVE A LIBRARIAN LOOK AT IT OR IT IF

IT'S IN TERRIBLE CONDITION, WE MIGHT RECYCLE -- YES. >> AND MY FINAL QUESTION AND I KNOW IT'S GOT TO BE DIFFICULT SINCE YOU'RE COMMUNITY SERVICE, IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT REVENUE GENERATION, ALTHOUGH YOU MAXIMIZE IT WHERE YOU CAN. THE ONLY CRITIQUE I HAVE EVER GOT FRN THE LIBRARY IS HOURS. IS THERE A REASON IT'S NOT OPEN LATER? JUST AS SCHOOL STARTS LATE AND HER LATER AND LIFE HAS GOTTEN TO BE LATER AND LATER.

>> YES. WELL, I LOOKED -- WHEN WE WERE IN THE MERCHANT SQUARE LIBRARY, WE HAD -- OBVIOUSLY WE HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THIS AND I LOOKED AND WE USED TO BE OPEN LATER AND IT WAS CONSISTENTLY FLAT DEAD HOUR, I MEAN, CONSISTENTLY A DEAD HOUR WITH NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THERE AND I LOOK NOW, WE'RE OPEN UNTIL 8 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, IT'S GENERALLY, IT'S PRETTY THIN BY THE TIME WE GET TO 7:00, SO, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WATCH AND PAY ATTENTION TO, IF I FEEL WE WERE TURNING A AWAY A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEN IT WOULD BE INCUMBENT FOR US TO LOOK AT THOSE HOUR AND IS TRY TO MATCH WHAT PEOPLE WANT.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT OUR HOURS ARE MORE OR LESS MATCHING THE DEMAND HOURS.

>> THAT'S DATABASE, THAT'S EXCELLENT. ANYBODY ELSE?

AWESOME JOB, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MR. ZACK JACKSON?

[11.j. Finance Department Budget Update (Quarterly – April, July, October, January (for the 4th quarter of the previous year)) ]

>> ALRIGHT, I WILL SKIP THROUGH SOME OF THESE OPENING ONES HERE, I'M ZACK JACKSON, CFO AND CONTROLLER TOF CITY AND I'M JOINED BY KIRSTEN HANEY, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR BUDGET MANAGEMENT. I'M GOING JUMP IN. BEFORE I GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON, I WANTED TO STEP BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE FOR A MOMENT AND THAT IS JUST HOW WE ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE SEVERAL AREAS THAT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT ACROSS THE CITY, JUST IMPROVING OUR STEWARDSHIP OF TAXPAYER RESORTS AND SO I KIND OF BUCKET IT INTO FOUR BIG AREAS, ACCOUNTABILITY, PLANNING, PROCESS IMPROVEMENT AND THEN COST SAVINGS INITIATIVES AND I HAVE A FEW THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON HERE, WHETHER IT'S COMPLETED OR IN PROGRESS. AND AGAIN WHERE I WANT TO JUST EMPHASIZE IS SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LATER ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON JUST GETTING BETTER TAT BASICS, HOW DO WE DO THAT BASIC BLOCKING AND TACKLING OF MANAGING OF THE CITY'S DOLLARS IF THE MOST EFFICIENT MANNER POSSIBLE.

SO, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUMP INTO THE RECAP OF THE 2025 FINANCIAL PICTURE FOR THE GENERAL FUND, STARTING OFF WITH REVENUES HERE, AND I THINK KIRSTEN SENT OUT THE REVENUE REPORT, I LOOKED AT THING THAT IS WERE OVER 250 THOUSAND OFF OF OUR TARGET, WE HAD FOUR ITEMS COME IN BELOW TASTER, TWO IE STEPS COME IN ABOVE TARGET. IN TERM OF THE BELOW TARGET,

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THIS SOMETIME AROUND FOR OUR 2026 FORECAST, I WAS ABLE TO SUB IN THE NEW NUMBERS BEFORE WE FINALIZED THOSE, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THOSE TWO LOW NUMBER THERE IS.

AUTO EXCISE TAX DID COME IN UNDER FORECAST AND FOOD AND BEVERAGE TA*JS TAXER AS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A FEW TIMES BS THE STATE CHANGED THE LAW EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1, WE CAN'T PUT -- I'M SORRY, EFFECTIVE JULY 1, WE $1 WE 1, WE CAN'T PUT THOSE DOLLARS INTO THE GENERAL FUND ANYMORE, SO WE DID RECEIVE THOSE IN A DIFFERENT FUND.

ABOVE TASTER, THE TWO THERE, THE SUPPLEMENTAL MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENTS, THAT IS THE -- ONCE A YEAR, WE GET USUALLY A REIMBURSEMENT FROM CMS FOR THE -- FOR MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT FOR AMBULANCE SERVICES, IT'S UNPREDICTABLE THE TIMING AND THERE'S USUALLY A TWO OR THREE LAG FROM WHEN WE SUBMIT OUR DATA TO CMS. THEY PROCESS AND EVERYTHING AND GET BACK TO US, SO TECHNICALLY IPG WE GOT TWO REIMBURSEMENTS LAST YEAR AS OPPOSED TO ONE.

AND THEN INTEREST EARNINGSCAME IN SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER THAN EXPECTED AS WELL.

THE NEXT SLIDE LOOKS AT GENERAL FUND SPENDING FOR THE YEAR AND SO HERE WE HAVE EACH DEPARTMENT ALONG WITH THEIR BUDGET THAT WAS PASSED BY COUNCIL. NEXT COLUMN IS WHATEVER ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATIONS, IF ANY, WERE PASSED BY COUNCIL. THERE'S 909 THOUSAND DOLLARS, THAT'S BY STATUTE IF THERE'S CERTAIN REIMBURSEMENTS, INSURANCE FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN REAPPROPRIATE THOSE DOLLARS AND WE COULD IT VERY SPARINGLY. REALLY WHAT I WANT O TO POINT OUT IS AFTER ENCUMBRANCES, SO WE ROLLED 6.5 OF PO'S FROM THE GENERAL FUND, EVEN AFTER THAT, OUR DEPARTMENTS REALLY KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK IN TERMS OF TRIMMING THEIR SPENDING DURING THE LAST FISCAL YEAR. THEY STILL REVERTED, UNDERSPENT THEIR APPROPRIATIONS BY 7 MILLIONDOLLARS LAST YEAR. THE NEXT SLIDE KIND OF PUTS THIS ALL INTO CONTEXT AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE SURPLUS STATEMENT A FEW TIMES SO I WON'T TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO KIND OF RECAP HERE BUT THE SECOND TO LAST COLUMN IS THE ACTUAL FOR 2025 AND SO YOU SEE OUR REVENUES UP THERE, THE TOTAL OF 141.4 MILLION, AND GENERAL FUND REVENUES COMING IN FOR THE YEAR. OUR TOTAL EXPENSES WERE 138 MILLION, THAT'S APPROPRIATIONS, THE SPENT PORTION OF APPROPRIATIONS, THE ENCUMBERED PORTION FOR PO'S AND WHATEVER THEY DIDN'T SPEND, THAT 7 MILLION, SO WE SPENT A TOTAL OF 138 MILLION, MEANING WE OPERATED AT A 3.3 MILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS FOR THE YEAR REVENUES VERSUS EXPENSES.

BELOW THE LINE THERE AS FAR AS UNDER ANNUAL SURPLUS, I'LL POINT OUT THAT COUNCIL DID A ONE-TIME APPROPRIATION OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND OF JUST UNDER 3.6 MILLION FOR PAVING.

COUNCILOR SNYDER, YOU HAVE ASKED ME IN THE PAST TABT REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE KEYSTONE OVERPASS, WE DID GET THAT CHECK, A MILLION 75 THOUSAND IS WHAT THAT TOTALS.

SO, THAT WILL BE GOING BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. AND THEN SO WE ESSENTIALLY ENDED THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE YEAR PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME PLACE WE STARTED, ABOUT 14.5 MILLION. THE RAINY DAY FUND BALANCE DID NOT CHANGE YEAR OVER YEAR, IT'S STILL AT 14.6, SO OUR OVERALL COMBINED RESERVE BALANCES DID SLIGHTLY CREEP UP TO 29.1 MILLION UP FROM 28.9 MILLION. THE NEXT COLUMN LAYS OUT OUR FORECAST FOR 26 REVENUE-WISE AS WELL AS THE APPROPRIATIONS PASSED BY COUNCIL. MOVING ON TO FACILITIES AND I DID A MUCH BIGGER -- WELL, WE DID A MUCH LARGER PRESENTATION TO FINANCE COMMITTEE THE OTHER

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HISTORICALLY WE HAVE NOT HAD A COMPREHENSIVE CAPITAL PLAN, AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS TO ME IS, ONE, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MAP OUT WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE IN TERMS OF WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE INVESTMENT INS OUR BUILDINGS, NOR HAVE WE HAD THE LUXURY OF MAPPING THAT, HOW DO WE PAY FOR THOSE THINGS BURKE IT'S ALSO THAT GFOA AND BOND RATERS HAVE CONTINUOUSLY BROUGHT UP THAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR THESE DOCUMENT INS THE PAST AS WELL. CITY COUNCIL APPROPRIATED 100 THOUSAND TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, OUR BUDGET LAST YEAR THE ASSESS THE CONDITION OF OUR FACILITIES AND ANOTHER 100 THOUSAND IN THE OPINIONS DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET THIS YEAR.

WITH LAST YEAR'S MONEY, WE CONTRACTED WITH WAY POINT STRATEGIES A DIVISION OF S CH MIDT ASSOCIATES TO BEGIN THE ASSESSMENT. THEY'VE TAKEN ON THE 15 BUILD ADVISING THEY'VE COORDINATED WITH OTHER CONTRACTOR THAT IS ARE LOOKING AT UTILITY AND IS IT'S FROM A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, BUT LOOKING AT UTILITIES AND ALSO PERFORMANCE S*FRS, ANOTHER CONTRACTOR IS LOOKING AT I THINK A TOTAL OF FIVE OR SIX OF OUR BUILDINGS, WAY POINT IS TAKING THOSE BITS OF INFORMATION FROM THE OTHER CONTRACTORS AND LAYER HATING INTO THEIR OVERALL DASHBOARD. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO AUDREY FOR A MOMENT TO TALK ABOUT THE

SCORING PROCESS. >> YES, SO AS ZACK MENTIONED, WE START ADD PROCESS NOT ONLY WITH OURSELVES BUT WITH OTHERS THAT WE'RE COORDINATING WITH TO REVIEW EVENTUALLY THE MAJORITY OF YOUR BUILDINGS AND ASSIGN THEM SCORES AND WE THOUGHT AT SOME LEVEL SETTING GOING INTO THIS, WE MIGHT TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE SETTING THAT UP AND THE WAYS IN WHICH WE'RE DOING THAT AND SO THIS ISN'T WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CARPET IN EVERY BUILDING, THIS IS PRIMARILY LOOKING AT MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR BUILDINGS. AND THEN FROM THERE, WE GO IN WITH A FULL TEAM, WE DO ASSESSMENTS AND WE LOOK AND WE ALSO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL, BUILDING OCCUPANTS, FIRE STATIONS, WE MET WITH A LOT OF THE STATION CHIEFS TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEIR EXPERIENCE WITHIN THE BUILDING WAS GOING AND HOW THAT MIGHT ALSO GUIDE TOWS LOOK DEEPER INTO SOME AREAS WEBSINGER USE THE UNIFORM SYSTEM TO ORGANIZE OUR DATA, THAT ALLOWS US TO GROUP ASSETS TOGETHER BASED UPON THEIR SYSTEMS WITHIN SUBSYSTEMS OR SUBSYSTEMS WITHIN SYSTEMS, WE EVALUATE THOSE ON A 0-4 SCALE AND YOU COUNT YOUR NUMBER OF INCIDENCES, MULTIPLY THAT BY FOUR, YOU LOOK AT YOUR TOTAL SCORE, THAT GIVERS YOU THEN AN ASSESSMENT SCORE WHICH IS YOUR AGGREGATE SCORE THAT THE BUILDING HAD AND THEN THE TOTAL POSSIBLE SCORE GIVERS YOU A PERCENTAGE. THAT RUN FROM 0% TO 100%, WE GENERALLY CONSIDER 75% A THRESHOLD FOR A BUILDING THAT IS DOING WELL. 50-75% IS WHERE A BUILDING -- JUST WHEN YOU NEED SOME EXTRA ATTENTION FROM A RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT CYCLE AND THEN A BUILDING BELOW 50%, WE START TO TALK ABOUT AND LOOK DEEPER AT WHATEVER PLACEMENT COST LOOKS LIKE VERSUS WHAT YOUR INVESTMENT COST IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

THAT GENERALLY IS HOW THAT THRESHOLD WORKS OUT. WE'VE DOWNER SOME RELIMB NAIR SCORING AND REVIEW HATED WITH THE FINANCE GROPE WE ARE TRYING TO SCRUB THAT DATA AND START TO INCORPORATE IN THE OTHERS SO WE HAVEN'T SHARE HATED IN DETAIL HERE.

ZAC OFFERED TO SHARE THAT. AND THEN OUR NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT GETTING THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS ASSESSED, COMING IN FROM EWE TIMENT AND IS PERFORMANCE S*FRS AND IS BUILD INING A PRORATION FROM THAT RENEWAL AND ASSESSMENT, WE WORKED ALONGSIDE BAIRD TO MAKE SURE WE -- WE'RE ALIGNING THE OUTPUT WITH BOND AGENCY AND IS HOW THAT PLAY INTROS THE LARGER FUNDING STRATEGIES FOR THOSE. WE'RE ALSO BE GENERATING A REPORT WITH PRIMARY RECOMMENDATIONS AND AGAIN HELPING BUILD OUT THAT CAPITAL INVESTMENT PLAN OVER COURSE OF THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS BASED ON BUDGETARY AND BONDING CAPACITY.

I THINK THAT'S THAT ON THE FACILITY SIDE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL

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BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT ONE. >> THEN WE'VE GOT ONE SLIDE ON

THE ENERGY CENTER HERE. >> SO, WHEN WE STARTED TO -- WHEN WE WERE ENGAGED TO LOOK TAT ENERGY CENTER AND REALLY WE WERE BROUGHT IN FROM A PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND OWNER'S REP PER SPEBLGT SPORTIVE ON THIS PROJECT, WE WORK WITCHED ZACK AND THE TEAM WITH THE CITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT KEY OBJECTIVES WOULD BE FOR THIS PROJECT, SO THAT IS ADDRESSING THE PLAN CAPACITY AND RESILIENCY, CURRENTLY IT RELIES ON WHAT SHOULD BE KIND OF THE BACKUP SYSTEM TO HELP.FULFILL ITS NEEDS ON A REGULAR BASIS. THAT IS ALSO THE WAY ALL OF THAT IS CURRENTLY STRUCTURED AND ESTABLISHED AT THE ENERGY CENTER IS ALSO NOT VERY EFFICIENT SO, YOUR ENERGY CENTER IS USING A LOT OF ENERGY TO PRODUCE THE HEATING AND COOLING FOR THE BUILDINGS. AND THEN WE TWAONT MAKE SURE WE ENHANCE THE MAINTAINABILITY, SO OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, ASSETS AGE, YOU NEED TO THE HANDLE RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT THAT DOESN'T ENTAIL SHUTTING DOWN AN ENTIRE PLANT OR DOESN'T ENTAIL HAVING TO MANEUVER THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS. WE ALSO LOOK AT THAT WITH RESILIENCY, USEFUL LIFE OF ASSET INS THAT PLANT IS HERE, AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS A LOT OF YOUR MAINTENANCE IS GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THOSE ASSETS ARE MOVING OUT OF LIFE CIRCLE AND SERVICEABILITY, WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT A STRATEGIC INVESTMENT PLAN OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ENERGY CENTER WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BETTER WAY TO STATE THAT.

SO, OUR NEXT STEP IS THAT HEAPY IS COMING ON BOARD, THEY ARE AN INDEPENDENT ENGINEERING FIRM, THEY ARE NOT A CONTRACTOR OR A CONSTRUCTOR, THEY ARE SOLELY AN ENGINEERING FIRM AND THAT WAS IMPORTANT IN THAT DECISION TO BRING THEM ON AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT SOME PRELIMINARY AND EARLY FEASIBILITY ENGINEERING TO LOOK AT THE VARIOUS OUTCOMES AND OPTIONS WE HAVE FOR ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF THE ENERGY CENTER. AND THOSE ARE A WIDE RANGE OF OPTION THAT IS ARE OUT THERE. THEY WILL CREATE A BASIS OF DESIGN INFORMATION WE CAN THEN DETERMINE HOW WE ARE BEST GOING TO MOVER FORWARD WITH THAT AND GET US SOME BEST COST ESTIMATE SOS WE CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER PROJECT FINANCING PLAN TO SUPPORT THAT.

>> THANKS, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO KIND OF CONTINUE TO KEEP COUNCIL UPDATED ON THESE IF YOU

WANT ME TO SLOW A SLIDE OR TWO IN MY QUARTERLY UPDATES ON THIS. >> THE ENERGY CENTER IS A BIG TICKET ITEM AND THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ON THAT, WE'RE GOING SEND THAT TO FINANCE SO

IF YOU CAN GIVE THEM UPDATES. >> YUP. SO, AT THIS TIME, I WILL -- WE'LL TURN TO PROJECT CORNER STONE. AND PROJECT CORNER STONE IS THE NAME I HAVE GIVEN TO OUR ERP PROJECT AS OPPOSED TO CONTINUALLY REFER TOING THAT AS THE ERP PROJECT, I THINK CORNER STONE GIVES A BETTER EMPHASIS ON KIND OF THAT BACK O THE BASICS BUILDING FROM THE GROUND UP, GETTING GOOD AT THE BASICS AND GOING FROM THERE FIRST.

SO, THIS PROJECT WOULD BE UPDATING OUR FINANCIAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE SYSTEMS, LOOKING AT EXISTING BUSINESS SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE TODAY, WHETHER ACCOUNTING, PURCHASING, REPORTING, HR, ALL WORK PURCHASED OR BUILT WITHOUT A COORDINATED PLAN, SO VARIOUS LICENSES, VARIOUS MANUFACTURERS, NONE OF OUR DATA REALLY TALKING TOGETHER AND A LOT OF MANUAL PROCESSES, SO AN EXAMPLE I HAVE GIVEN A FEW TIMES IS TODAY WHEN ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENTS RECEIVES AN INVOICE, THEY CREATE A CLAIM FORM IN OUR ACCESS DATABASE PURCHASING SYSTEM, THEY PRINT OUT A COPY OF THAT CLAIM FORM, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FOLDED VERY PRECISE MANNER ALONG WITH THE INVOICE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FOLDED IN A PRECISE MANNER, PAPER CLIPPED IN A PRECISE MANNER AND SENT OVER THROUGH INTEROFFICE MAIL TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. I'M NOT SURE WE OPEN IT IN A PRECISE MANNER BUT WE KEY IT INTO THE ACCOUNTING SYSTEM SO NOW AS THE SECOND PERSON KEYING IN THE SAME INFORMATION THAT TH FIRST PERSON DID, THERE ARE A LOT OF PROCESSES LIKE THIS ACROSS HR AS WELL AS FINANCE WHERE WE'RE STILL PUSHING PAPER. I HAVE RAMBLED A LITTLE BIT, OUR LEGACY SYSTEMS, WE HAVE

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AND NO LONGER BEING SUPPORTED INCREASES THE RISK OF CYBER SECURITY ATTACK.

SO, AN ERP PLATFORM WOULD HELP US TO ADDRESS THESE THINGS, WHAT ELSE DOES IT SOLVE, IT'S THE DATA FLOWING BETWEEN OUR PROCESSES AND OUR SYSTEMS CREATING EFFICIENCY IFS AUTOMATION, ELIMINATION OF MANUAL PROCESSES AND THEN BY CENTRALIZING DATA, WE'LL HAVE BETTER DATA AND MORE TIMELY DATA. THE GRAPHIC UP HERE IS THE WAY I LIKE TO THINK ABOUT AN ERP SYSTEM, TO ME IT'S THAT YOUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM AT THE CORE THERE WHERE IT SAYS ERP AND YOU HAVE DATA FEEDING INTO IT FROM YOUR HR SYSTEM, YOUR PAYROLL SYSTEM, YOUR ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, YOUR CONTRACT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, ALL OF THOSE SEAMLESSLY FEEDING DATA BACK AND FORTH WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE A PERSON MANUALLY MOVE THAT DATA. AS IT COMES TO THE ANTICIPATED COSTS, WE'VE MET WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT VENDORS AND AS WE LOOK AT THIS PROJECT, THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF VENDORS, ONE IS WHO WOULD BE SELLING US THE SYSTEM AND THE OTHER WOULD BE WHO WOULD BE THE IMPLEMENTERS OF THAT SYSTEM. IT COULD BE THE SAME COMPANY BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AND I WOULD GUESS PROBABLY 50% OF THE TIME, IT'S NOT. THE QUOTES WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR WOULD HAVE IMPLEMENTATION RANGE FRAMING ABOUT A HALF MILLION TO 2 MILLION DOLLARS.

I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN PROBABLY KEEP THIS TO A MILLION AT THIS POINT.

THESE COSTS DEPEND UPON THE SCOPE, SO ALL THOSE THINGS I WAS RAMBLING ABOUT EARLIER, THE HR SYSTEM, THE PAYROLL, FINANCE HEALERS, PURCHASING, ALL OF THOSE MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT MODULE IN THIS SYSTEM, SO WE WOULD DECIDE WHICH ONE OF THOSE MODULES WOULD WE NEED, WHICH ONE DO WE NEED FIRST, HOW DO WE PHASE THIS IMPLEMENTATION. ANOTHER THING IS THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM A FEW VENDORS THEY ARE WILLING TO HELP SPREAD THESE IMPLEMENTATION COSTS OVER THE LIFE OF THE SYSTEM AND SO RATHER THAN PAYING THAT MILLION UPFRONT, WE COULD SMOOTH IT OVER THE LIFE OF THIS CONTRACT. THE ONGOING ANNUAL LICENSING FEES ARE EXPECTED TO BE IN THE RANGE OF 300 THOUSAND. AGAIN, I HAVE SEEN -- I HAVE SEEN A RANGE PROBABLY MORE LIKE 250 TO 400 THOUSAND BUT I THINK BASED UPON THE MODULES THAT WE WOULD WANT TO IMPLEMENT, THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE WE WOULD BE, BUT AGAIN, SOME OF THESE MODULES THAT WE CHOOSE WOULD BE REPLACING EXISTING MODULES OR CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE TODAY, SO FOR EXAMPLE, OUR ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE TODAY HAS A 50 THOUSAND DOLLAR CONTRACT THAT WOULD BE REPLACED BY THIS.

I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO SAY WE WOULD REPLACE OUR PAYROLL SYSTEM TODAY BUT WE PAY 250 THOUSAND A YEAR JUST FOR THAT SO YOU COULD SEE IF WE WOULD REPLACE THAT WITH SOME OTHER SOLUTION, THAT WILL ALMOST COVER THE ENTIRE COST. AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO BE COMMITTED TO BEING AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE WITH THESE CO-S.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO MEASURE SUCCESS, REDUCED MANUAL WORK, POTENTIAL ELIMINATION OF FLAGGED S*M SYSTEMS, I CAN'T SAY TODAY THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO ROLL OVER THE ACCOUNTING SYSTEMS USED BY UTILITIES OR THE SEPARATE ACCOUNTING SYSTEM WE USE FOR QUICK BOOKS, THOSE WILL ALL BE THINGS WE COULD CONSIDER AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, IMPROVE FINANCIAL TRACKING, TRANSPARENCY AND REAPPORTIONING CAPABILITIES AND THEN MORE RELIABLE AND SUPPORTABLE SYSTEMS FOR THE IT DEPARTMENT. FROM A TIMELINE PERSPECTIVE, I HAVE TWO STAGES UP HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING THROUGH STAGE 1 RIGHT NOW, FOR US, WE WOULD LIKE THE PROCEED WITH HIRING A PROJECT MANAGER WHO WILL HELP US SCOPE OUR SIDE, HELP US KEEP THE TRAINS RUNNING, YOU KNOW, I SEE A LOT OF TEAMS GETTING TOGETHER INDEPENDENTLY TO -- WHAT EXACTLY ARE PAYROLL NEEDS, WHAT EXACTLY DO OUR PURCHASING POLICIES DICTATE AND WHAT DOES THAT POLICY LOOK LIKE SO WE CAN COMPARE WHAT A SYSTEM OFFERS WITH OUR EXISTING PROCESSES.

AFTER THAT, WE WILL SELECT AN ERP VENDOR AND AN IMPLEMENTATION PRESIDENT NER AND THIS NEXT PART, STAGE 2, I SEE THIS AS SOMETHING WE COULD REPEAT MAYBE A COUPLE OF TIMES, MAYBE THREE, WHERE WE E WOULD SELECT A SINGLE OR A BUNDLE OF MODULES, IMPLEMENT THOSE AND

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TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> ZAC, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CORNER STONE UPDATE AND SHARING IT AT FINANCE LAST WEEK. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO TOUCH ON WAS WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE MODULES AND REPLACING SOME AND COVERING THE COSTS, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT GOING FORWARD AND I KNOW WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS DURING THE FINANCE MEETING AS WELL THAT I'M GOING TO USE ADP BECAUSE IT TEES THE EASY ONE TO USE, IF WE'RE REPLACING ADP, WHAT'S THE COST THAT YOU WOULD BE REPLACING WITH SO WE CAN SEE THE COST SAVINGS FOR US SO

WE'RE ALL ON AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD HERE. >> I WOULD SAY MOST OF THESE MODULES APPEAR TO BE RUNNING LICENSING COSTS, LET'S SAY 25 TO THE 50 THOUSAND A YEAR IS KIND OF WHAT I'M SEEING FOR MOST OF THESE AND THAT'S GOING TO VARY.

I'M SURE THERE'S SOME SMALL MOD ULES THAT ARE VERY CHEAP AND OTHER LARGER ONES LIKE IN

ACCOUNTING THAT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE. >> I'M GOING SAY I'M IMPRESSED.

WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THE ERP, THE TIMING WAS A LITTLE TOUGH, IT WAS COMING AT THE TIME WE WERE DEALING WITH A VERY DIFFICULT BUDGET PROCESS AND THEN NOT ONLY FACING FINANCIAL ISSUES TLA WE WERE DEALING WITH THAT YEAR, BUT HEARING NEXT YEAR'S GOING TO BE WORSE, SO THE TIMING WAS NOT ALWAYS GREAT . THE THE NUMBER WE HEARD WAS A LITTLE BIGGER AT FIRST, BUT I THINK YOU CAME UP WITH A GOOD PLAN, I FOLLOWED THIS AND TALK TODAY SOME PEOPLE I TRUST. I APPRECIATE THE BREAKDOWN AND THE NEED, I APPRECIATE BRINGING THE COST DOWN AND EXPLAINING EXACTLY HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK. SO, I'M IMPRESSED AND I HAD SOME SKEPTICISM BUT I THINK YOUR THOROUGHNESS HAS WON ME OVER.

>> THANK YOU. >> JUST SOME ANNOYING ME QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I ASKED SOME FROM YOU, DO YOU HAVE A WALK FORWARD OF THE MODULES OF THE THINS WE'RE REPLACING AND IS THERE A CHART THAT WE COULD GET SOME CONCRETE DATA OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, WHAT YOU'RE THINKING FOR THIS FIRST RUN AND THEN THE 2028 SECOND PHASE RUN, WHAT THINGS YOU HAVE GOTTEN READY TO GO BECAUSE I THINK THAT COST QUESTION IS HARD, CHANGING ADP TO SOMETHING ELSE IS A BIG TRANSITION FOR LOTS OF PEOPLE, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE

THAT DATA AS WE PROGRESS. >> YEAH, HAPPY TO SEND THAT. AND I WOULD SAY, MOST OF THESE VENDORS USUALLY HAVE ABOUT 12 OR SO MODULES OR COMPONENTS. I WOULD SAY PROBABLY SIX OF THEM MAKE SENSE FOR US, BUT IT PROBABLY BECOMES -- IS THAT A NEED VERSUS A WANT ON SOME OF THOSE SIX, SO, TO ME PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR ARE ABSOLUTE AND THEN AFTER THAT, I THINK IT

JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. >> AND THEN JUST A PROCESS QUESTION.

THERE'S OBVIOUSLY BP A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS. WILL THIS BE A SPECIAL PROCUREMENT, ARE YOU GOING DO AN RFP BASE ONED THIS PROCESS TO PICK AN ULTIMATE VENDOR OR

IS THERE SOMETHING YOU HAVE LINED UP? >> GREAT QUESTION.

I WOULD SEE US DOING -- AND THERE'S PROBABLY TWO DIFFERENT ANSWER TOS THAT, IN TERMS OF CHOOSING THE SYSTEM AND IN TERMS OF WHO IMPLEMENTS THAT SYSTEM.

FOR EITHER, THE ANSWER COULD BE RFP, FOR EITHER T ANSWER ALSO COULD BE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF COOPERATIVES OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT OUT THERE ARE WHERE VERY COMPETITIVE PRICES HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE AVAILABLE, WE'RE A MEMBER OF THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT LARGE COOPERATIVES, INDIANA BASED AS WELL AS TEXAS BASED THAT FOCUSES ON IT NEEDS, SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT -- THESE HAVE BEEN PUBLICLY BID THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND GRAB. SO, EITHER RFP OR SOMETHING

THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PUBLICLY BID THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND GRAB. >> AND THEN FINAL QUESTION, THE

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>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AS WELL. PROJECT MANAGER POSITION WAS FUNDED IN IT'S BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. YOU KNOW, I REALLY REGRET KIND OF HOLDING ON FILLING THAT POSITION FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THIS IS NOT THE ONLY PLACE WHERE THIS POSITION COULD ADD VALUE. WHEN IT COMES -- TODAY WHEN IT COMES TIME TO IMPLEMENT ANYTHING NEW AT THE DEPARTMENT, EVEN WHEN IT JUST MULTIFACTOR AUTHENTICATION, WE HAVE TO PULL PEOPLE OFF THEIR NORMAL DUTIES OF SUPPORTING OUR SOFTWARE EQUIPMENT AND HAVE THEM DO THIS, THEN BRING THEM DOWN TO -- BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR ANYBODY TO REALLY EXECUTE SPECIAL PROJECTS THERE. THIS GIVES US THAT -- WHETHER THEY'RE WORKING ON THE ERP OR JUST SAY WE NEED TO GET THIS IMPLEMENTED AS WELL.

IT WILL BE MULTI-PURPOSE. >> OKAY, AND THEN I HAVE ONE MORE BASED ON THAT.

OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A MASSIVE TECHNOLOGICAL UNDERTAKE HATING'S GOING TO APPLY TO EVERYBODY ACROSS THE BOARD, IT'S A CHANGE OF FOLDING HABITS OF MANY INDIVIDUALS.

HOW ENGRAINAND HAD INVOLVED HAVE YOU KEPT IT AND KEEPING THEM IN THE LOOP AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE FULL ENTERPRISE OF THE ERP AS IT APPLIES TO EVERYTHING?

>> YEAH, YOU KNOW, KEVIN AND SETH HAVE BOTH BEEN VERY HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND THEY BOTH HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ERP SYSTEMS AT OTHER PLACES THEY'VE WORKED IN THE PAST SO I THINK THEY'RE

AWARE AND THEY KNEE WHAT THEY'RE GETTING THESES INTO. >> JUST AS A FOLLOW-UP, I'M SORRY, EXCUSE ME, JUST AS A FOLLOW-UP, RYAN, I HAVE BEEN ON ALL THE MEETINGS I COULD POSSIBLY ATTEND AND SETH AND KEVIN ARE COMPLETELY INVOLVED IN ALL THOSE DISCUSSION AND IS I WANT TO THANK ZAC AND COMPANY FOR ALLOWING ME TO TO BE A PART OF THOSE DISCUSSION, I DO

APPRECIATE IT. >> T*T, I WANTED TO GIVE A VOTE OF CONFIDENCE.

I WAS AN EARLY LESS ADOPTER AND I WAS SKEPTICAL AND WE'RE CHANGING EVERYTHING AND I SHARED WITH YOU AT COMMITTEE THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY DO I TRUST YOU BUT I CAN SEE FROM MY OWN -- I CAN SEE FOR MYSELF THAT YOU HAVE DONE THE DUE DILIGENCE, HAD THE PEOPLE INVOLVED THAT NEED TO BE INVOLVED. I ALSO SHARED WITH YOU THAT I DID CONSULT SOME OF OUR TRUSTED ADVISORS WHO SAID WE NEED THIS, SO MAYOR, YOU KNOW, YEAH, IT'S AN -- IT COSTS MONEY BUT WE HAVE TO DO THIS TO EXCEL AND SO THANK YOU, YOU KNOW, AND I ADMIT I WAS WRONG. NOW I WILL TELL YOU THAT I RECEIVED A COUPLE OF E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE WHO WATCHED THE COMMITTEE MEETING AND SAID IT NEVER GOES AS PLANNED AND IT'S ALWAYS LONGER, MORE EXPENSIVE, ETC., I SAID, WELL, I FEEL LIKE WE KNOW THAT.

>> COUNCIL, WHAT I DIDN'T TELL YOU IS I EXTENDED THE DEADLINE FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION BEFORE I

PRESENTED IT TO YOU LAST WEEK, SO I'VE TRIED TO -- >> GOOD, YOU'RE TRICKING THEM, ALRIGHT. I HOPE THEY'RE WATCHING NOW, ANYWAY, JUST A VOTE OF

CONFIDENCE, I WILL SUPPORT THIS. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ALSO WHAT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY INTERESTING IS SETH IS AN ACCOUNTANT, HAS SERVED AT A NUMBER OF LARGE ACCOUNTING FIRMS AND HAS IMPLEMENTED ERP'S FOR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE CLIENTS, SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT -- THOUGH HE'S NOT GOING TO BE THE PROJECT MANAGER, HE HAS SIGNIFICANT BACKGROUND AND REALLY STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT SOFM THE PROVIDERS OF PIT FALLS AND PRO AND IS CONS, SO I THINK

HE AND KEVIN WILL SERVE AS GREAT RESOURCE. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, FIRST OFF, THANK YOU TO ZAC AND THE TEAM, IT, KIRSTEN AND EVERYONE FOR WORKING ON THIS, THERE'S MUCH MORE WORK TO DO AND YOU WILL BE INVOLVED MANY THE -- IN THE PROCESS. I WAS STRUCK EARLIER BY BOB, THIS REPRESENTS CARMEL, FOR ANYONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, ZAC TRY TOOLED GIVE YOU AN UNDERSTANDING IT, THIS PUTS US AS RISK AND MAKES US INEFFICIENT AND IT'S EMBARRASSING HOW BAD THE

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IT WILL GIVE ME MORE JOY TO BUILD A SECTION OF PATH OR PUT ANOTHER STATUE SOMEWHERE, THIS IS LIKE STROG REPLACE YOUR ROOF AT HOME, THERE'S MORE FUN THING TOS SPEND YOUR DOLLARS ON, THIS IS ESSENTIAL, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR DIG INING AND LISTENING TO ZAC AND EVEN WHEN YOU'RE SKEPTICAL TO START, LISTENING TO WHAT THE NEED IS HERE AND ESPECIALLY THE TIMING THAT WE HAVE, BUT WE HAVE TO INVEST IN THIS, IF NOTHING ELSE FOR THE CYBER SECURITY SUPPORT AND PREVENTION, WE HAVE TOO DO THAT, SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND ALSO A FINAL COMMENT ON THIS, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO TALK TO OUR TEASES ABOUT INNOVATION AND EFFICIENCY AND DOING BUSINESS SMARTER AND BETTER, NOT ALWAYS CHEAPER BECAUSE WE HAVE TO INVEST IN THINGS LIKE THIS, BUT YOUR SUPPORT WILL SEND A MESSAGE TO OUR TEAMS, MANY OF WHOM HAVE DONE THINGS THE SAME WAY FOR MAYBE THE ENTIRE 25 OR 30 YEARS THEY'VE WORKED HERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THE BUSINESS FORWARD IN ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY FORWARD, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND MR. PRESIDENT, IF YOU CAN INDULGE ME FOR 30 MORE SECONDS ON A DIFFERENT TOPIC, WE GOT WORD THAT TWO BEACH GO POLICE OFFICERS WERE SHOT IN AN AMBUSH STYLE ATTACK AT BEACH GROVE, BUT I WANT TODAY ASK WHO THINGS, AS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT POLICE AND THE IMPORTANCE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THESE ARE THE THINGS OUR OFFICERS PUT THEIR BADGE ON AND PUT THEIR UNIFORM ON AND THEY KNOW IT'S A RISK. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY SCARY. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY A PRAYER TO MAKE SURE -- I TRY TO LISTEN AND DO SOME RESEARCH, THERE'S NO UPDATE ON THEIR CONDITION, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE FINE, I WANTED TO MAKE YOUR AWARE OF THAT AND PRAY FOR THEIR IMPROVEMENT.

THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THE INDUCEMENT FOR THE EXTRA TIME. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> ON THE ERP, I HAD YOUR BACK ON THAT. OR MAYBE THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

BUT I DO WANT CLARIFICATION. WHAT CAME BACK, SO WE GOT A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO DO

WHAT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- >> WE ALREADY APPROVED THE PROJECT MANAGER SO, THE POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE INTO PHASE 1 WHICH IS SELECT AN IMPLEMENTERS, HIRE -- THEY HAVE TO HIRE THE PROJECT MANAGER, SELECT AN INTEGRATE TOR, IMPLEMENTERS AND RFP/Q FOR

AN ERP SYSTEM. >> EXCELLENT. AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A FINANCIAL REQUEST THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF IN THE FUTURE.

>> AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I DON'T NEED ANY FUNDING. I'M NOT ACCEPTOR THAT I WILL THIS YEAR AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT LATER WHAT -- I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO ANOTHER QUARTERLY UPDATE

AND G*I YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT COSTS MIGHT BE DOWN THE ROAD. >> AND MY COMMENT ON THE WHOLE THING, AND I KNOW IT WAS CHALLENGING IN 2025 BECAUSE YOU WERE ON THE FENCE WITH THAT EMPLOYEE, BUT LIKE A NEED IS A NEED, SO, I WOULD CONSIDER THAT IF WE'RE NOT SERVICING THE COMMUNITY TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY BECAUSE WE'RE MISSING AN EMPLOYEE, WE'RE NO STRANGERS TO MAKING CHANGES MID YEAR, BUT I'M NOT SPEAKING OUT OF TURN, I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF

THE COUNCIL, BUT CONSIDER THAT AND MAKE THE ARGUMENT. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO TAKE AN ACTION JUST TO -- MAYBE A

SIGN OF CONSENSUS. >> LET'S TO THAT, BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE FINANCE AND RULES COMMITTEE, LET'S DO A CONSENSUS VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ERP PHASE 1 SELECTION

PROCUREMENT AND EVERYTHING CHAIRMAN TAYLOR STATED. >> I MAO*FR TO ACKNOWLEDGE

SUPPORT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS AS OUTLINED. >> SECOND.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MOVING ON, OLD BUSINESS, ITEMS

[13.a. First Reading of Ordinance Z-703-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Establishing The Illinois Street Townhomes Planned Unit Development District; Sponsor: Councilor Aasen. ]

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COUNCIL MEMBER AASEN, WITH YOU READ IS SYNOPSIS, PLEASE. >> I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED, DID

YOU SKIP ALL THE WAY TO -- >> WE'RE AT 13A. ER

>> OKAY. DID YOU WANT TO DO OLD BUSINESS FIRST?

>> THEY ALL REMAIN IN COMMITTEE. I GOT CONFIRMATION FROM LEGAL THAT I WAS ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THEM, OKAY, GREAT. THIS SYNOPSIS ESTABLISHES THE ILLINOIS STREET TOWNHOMES PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, THE ORDINANCE WOULD REZONE THE REAL ESTATE FROM THE MERIDIAN CORRIDOR DISTRICT TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ALLOWING THE DEVELOPMENT OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD LAID OUT IN THE STYLE AND CHARACTER AS DEPICTED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. I WILL MOVE TO INTRODUCE.

>> SECOND. >> BEFORE WE GET INTO THE REPORT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THIS, SO, THIS DID COME BACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH A 6-3 NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION. THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE ON IT. IT KIND OF SPANNED BEFORE THE YEAR TWO SO COUNCILOR MINNAAR, IF YOU WANT TODAY WEIGH IN ON SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAD PRIOR TO THAT, BUT LISTENING TO SOME OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HE ISER THE REASONS FOR VOTING FOR A RECKBACKER NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION, THEY CITED LOCATION, THEY FELT THIS USE FELT THEY THOUGHT IT WAS OUT OF PLACE AT THIS LOCATION AND THEN SOME COMMISSIONERS CITED BUILDING MATERIALS ASKING FOR MORE MASONRY IN THE DESIGN SO, HOPEFULLY I'M NOT MISQUOTING ANYONE, BUT THAT IS HOW IT HAPPENED.

>> AND JUST BEFORE YOU GO OUT WITH A LONG COMPELLING ARGUMENT, THIS WILL GO TO

COMMITTEE. >> THANK YOU, AND GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.

FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JOHN SHAI WITH THE LAW FIRM, WE REPRESENT THE APPLICANT, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, AS NOTED, POLTY IS SEEKING APPROVAL FOR THE PUD, THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SMALL FOR SALE THREE STOREY TOWNHOME NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDING 20 HOMES.

THE REAL ESTATE IS IDENTIFIED ON THE AERIAL MAP NOW ON DISPLAY AND INCLUDED BEHAIND TAB 2 OF THE SUBMITTAL WE MADE TO COUNCIL PRIOR TO TONIGHT THE'S MEETING.

ITIS -- IT'S AN INFILL SITE AND CONSIST OFS APPROXIMATELY 4.4 ACRES.

THE REAL ESTATE IS ADJACENT TO FORTE NORTH, THE SUBJECT SITE IS VERY TIGHT FR, A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT AS IT'S SMALL IN AREA WITH A STREAM RUNNING ALONG THE SOUTH PARAMETER.

THE SITE LENDS ITSELF TO PROVIDE A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL USES ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST.

DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE IS FOR A FOR SALE TOWNHOME COMMUNITY WHICH KH* WILL PROVIDE A RESIDENTIAL INFILL WHERE ADDING RESIDENTIAL IS ENCOURAGED UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE EXHIBIT NOW DISPLAYS A COLORED CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AS INDICATED THE PLAN IS DEVELOP FOR SALE TOWNHOMES, 27 IN TOTAL, ACCESS TO THE REAL ESTATE WILL BE PROVIDED FROM ILLINOIS STREET TO BE A PUBLIC STREET.

THE CONCEPT PLAN PROVIDES SIGNIFICANT OPEN SPACE ALONG THE SOUTH PARAMETER OF THE SITE THAT IS CROSSED BY WOODEN STREAM CORRIDOR. OVER 40% OF THE SITE WILL BE DEDICATED TOWARDS OPEN SPACE AND THE TREE PRESERVATION IS A PRIMARY COMPONENT AND THAT AREA IS IDENTIFIED IN THE DARKER GREEN COLOR ON THE IMAGE NOW ON DISPLAY.

THE TOWNHOME BUILD ARISING POSITIONED ALONG THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE WITH THE FEWEST MATURE TREES. ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING WILL BE PROVIDED ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THOSE BUILDINGS ADJACENT TO THE SMARTED PROPERTY LINE WITH FOUR TANK, FOUR PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED OFF STREET AS WELL AS TEN ADDITIONAL OFF STREET PARKING SPACES IDENTIFIED HERE ON THE SITE PLAN. STONE WATER RETENTION IS PROVIDED SOUTHWEST OF THE TOWNHOME AND IS NORTH OF THE STREAM CORRIDOR, THEY WILL CONNECT THE PATH OF ON THE EAST SIDE OF ILLINOIS STREET, NORTH FROM 106 STREET WHERE IT TERMINATES UP TO FORTE FROM A

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THE TOWNHOMES ARE THREE STORY IN HEIGHT AND WILL BE PRICE FRAMED THE MID 500'S, MISSON RI IS INCLUDED AS AN EXTERIOR BUILDING MATERIAL ON ALL ELEVATIONS OF ALL BUILDINGS WITH A MINIMUM OF FULL FLOOR MISSON RI ON ALL SIDES OF EACH BUILDING.

ENHANCED SITE ELEVATIONS WILL BE PROVIDED ALONG THE SIDE FACING ILLINOIS STREET INCORPORATING ADDITIONAL MASONRY AS WELL AS BUMP OUTS ALONG THAT PARTICULAR FRONTAGE OF ILLINOIS STREET. BASED ON THE SITE LAYOUT, ALL GARAGE DOORS OR DWELLINGS WITHIN THE SITE ARE INTERNALLY FACING SO THAT WILL BE SCREENED FROM ILLINOIS STREET, COMING DOWN ILLINOIS STREET, YOU WON'T SEE THOSE AND FROM THE NORTH OR SOUTH FACING PROPERTIES, YOU WON'T SEE THE GARAGE DOORS, THEY'RE INTERNALLY FACING. IN CONCLUSION, OUR TEAM HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AS PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REVIEW PROCESS, THAT WAS HELD BACK LATE LAST YEAR, ONE RESIDENT ATTENDED, THAT INDIVIDUAL IS IN THE AUDIENCE THIS EVENING, THEY'RE AN HOA BOARD MEMBER OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT INDIVIDUAL SENT A COMMUNICATION TO THE PLANNING COMMUNICATION WITH SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST AND NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE BELIEVE THE PROPOSAL IS WORTHY OF POSITIVE CONSIDERATION AS IT EXPANDS HOUSING OPTIONS, PRESERVES MATURE TREES AND PROTECTS SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE UNDERSTAND AT THE CONCLUSION OF TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION, THIS MAY BE SENT TO THE LAND USE COMMITTEE FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, WE'LL AWAIT THAT DISCUSSION AND WE'RE GLAD TO

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IT IS COUNCIL MAY HAVE. >> THANK YOU, JOHN, I APPRECIATE IT. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT FROM PLANNING COMMISSION THAT YOU DIDN'T TOUCH ON, JOHN. I DID ASK FOR RENTAL RESTRICTIONS, ST SAME TYPE OF RENTAL RESTRICTIONS WE HAD AT THE 146 AND TOWN PUD, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE THOSE ARE COMMITMENTS MADE THROUGH THE DEED, CORRECT, AM I CORRECT?

>> RIGHT, THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THE PRANCE MITT WE MADE TO COUNCIL AND THAT'S A GOOD

QUESTION. >> YEAH, SO JUST FYI. >> YOU SAID AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THERE IS OPENNESS AND DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLY LOOKING AT SOME OF THE DESIGN OR THE BUILDING MATERIAL AND IS YOU SAID THAT COULD BE ON THE TABLE WE DISCUSS AT LAND

USE, IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD KEEP DISCUSSING? >> YES, WE LOOK FORWARD TO FEEDBACK FROM ALL COUNCILMEMBERS, IN PARTICULAR, THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, PALTY IS COMMITS TO THE DESIGN THAT THE COUNCIL WILL FIND APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION.

>> THANK YOU. >> THIS I THINK WOULD BE OUR SECOND POLTY DEVELOPMENT, THEY'VE MADE COMMITMENTS BEFORE AND UNLESS SOMEBODY CORRECTS ME, I DON'T THINK -- WE HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE -- THEY TL*'S NO REASON THEY MAKE ANY COMMITMENTS THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY CONCERN. THEY RESOLVE AROUND RENTAL RESTRICTIONS AND THEY'RE

SUBJECT TO THE COMMITMENTS AS WELL AS THE CITY'S CURRENT UDO. >> THIS WILL GO TO LAND USE AND

SPECIAL STUDIES. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> I'M SORRY, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:19. >> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS RON HAWK, THE PRESIDENT OF THE SPRING LOW PLACE HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY TO THE WEST ON ILLINOIS STREET ACROSS FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT, IT IS OBVIOUSLY RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT OFFERS MINIMAL IMPACT FROM LIGHTING, SIGNAGE, TRAFFIC, THE THINGS THAT NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SENSITIVE TO WHEN PROJECTS DEVELOP ADJACENT. IF YOU LISTEN TO U.S. 31 SUB AREA CONVERSATIONS, RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS AND SENSITIVITY TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TENDS TO BE OVERLOOKED IS LIGHTING. IT'S A SENSITIVITY IN THE U.S. 31 SUB AREA LANGUAGE REALLY ADDRESSING MORE MASSING AND SCALING OF FACADES, BUT BEING ADJACENT TO FORTE FRANCISCAN

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IT TURNS OUT MY PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE NORTH END OF THIS PROJECT, SO THANK

YOU. >> SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT WEBSINGER WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:21, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL? THIS WILL GO LAND USE AND SPECIAL STUD DIS. DO YOU KNOW IF THE IT WILL BE DISCUSSED AT THE NEXT MEETING?

>> AS OUR PETITIONER PREPARE TODAY DISCUSS THAT ON WEDNESDAY TAT NEXT MEETING WHICH WILL BE

AT 5:30? >> I'M SEEING A YES. >> THEN YES.

>> THANK YOU, THIS WILL BE DISCUSSED THIS COMING WEDNESDAY, 5:30 AT THE LIBRARY,

[13.b. First Reading of Ordinance D-704-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending the Green House Cottages of Carmel Planned Unit Development District (Z-594-14); Sponsors: Councilors Aasen and Minnaar. ]

FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D-704-26. >> MOVE TO INTRODUCE.

ER >> SECOND. >> AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA AMEND THING GREEN HOUSE COTTAGES OF CARMEL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT Z-594-14. COUNCILMAN -- MINNAAR, WOULD YOU READ THE SYNOPSIS.

THIS ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES AN AMEND TOMENT THE GREEN HOUSE COTTAGES OF CARMEL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE Z-594-14 WHICH AMENDMENT SH SHA* BE REFER TODAY AS THE Z-704-26 GREEN HOUSE COTTAGES OF CARMEL AMENDMENT ORDINANCE. THIS Z-704-26 GREEN HOUSE COTTAGES PUD AMENDMENT AMENDS CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINAL GREEN HOUSE COTTAGES OF CARMEL PUD ORDINANCE, ORDINANCE NUMBER Z-594-14, THE ORIGINAL GREEN HOUSE COTTAGES PUD ORDINANCES PERTAINING TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THAT WAS A MOUTHFUL, GOOD LUCK. >> THIS DID GET UNANIMOUS POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM

THE PLANNING COMMISSION. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS KYLE WITH DENTON'S FOR THE RECORD, MY ADDRESS IS 10 WEST MARKET STREET, SUITE 2700 IN INDIANAPOLIS, PLEASED TO BE WITH YOU FOR THE COMPANION PETITIONS BY MY CLIENT, MBR CARMEL HEALTH, LO* KATE AT 616 GREEN HOUSE WAY WITH RESPECT TO AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING PUD, THE GREEN HOUSE PUD AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A REZONE AND A NEW PUD, THEBACKER CARMEL 240 EAST CITY CENTER DRIVE. AS A CONTEXT EXHIBIT AS A DASHED RED OUTLINE AROUND THE EXISTING SITE AND THE PROPOSED ADJACENT SITE WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY A TWO ACRE SITE, SITTING JUST WEST OF CONCORD VILLAGE AND JUST SOUTH OF CARMEL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THE AFOREMENTIONED CARMEL PLAY PUBLIC LIBRARY WE HEARD ABOUT THIS EVENING, AS I OFFER THE SITE PLAN FOR YOU AS A NEW EXHIBIT, THE EXISTING FACILITY, THE RESTORE SI OF CARMEL INCLUDES SIX SKILLED NURSING FACILITY BUILDINGS AND ONE SMALL ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING INCLUDING TWO RAIN GARDENS AND ONE PRIVATE DRIVE NOPE AS GREENHOUSE WAY ENDING IN A CUL-DE-SAC ACCESSED EXCLUSIVELY FROM CITY CENTER DRIVE.

THE EXPANSION FACILITY AS PROPOSED ADDS TWO NEW COTTAGES TO THE OVERALL SITE PLAN ACCESSED OFF OF AN EXTENSION OR ARTERY TO THE EXISTING DRIVE BORDER ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH BY ADDITIONAL PARKING AS WELL AS SIDEWALKS ENDING ON THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE FACILITY

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THE SKILLED NURSING FACILITY LICENSES ARE STATE ISSUED LICENSES.

THOSE ARE -- THERE'S AN EXISTING AND LONGSTANDING MORATORIUM OF THE ISSUE SAN OF NEW SKILLED NURSING BED LICENSES IN THE STATE OF INDIANA.

THE EXCEPTION TO THAT LICENSE MORATORIUM IS FOR LICENSES GRANT TODAY THE SMALL HOME CONCEPT. THAT IS FOR FACILITIES OFFERING COTTAGES AS THEY ARE MOST OFTEN KNOWN OF 8 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR LESS. THESE COTTAGES ALLOW FOR NO MORE THAN 12 SKILLED NURSING FACILITY LICENSES OR SKILLED NURSING FACILITY BEDS.

EACH OF THESE SIX EXISTING COTTAGES INCLUDE 12 BEDS SO THE EXISTING FACILITY HAS 72 BEDS, THE TWO NEW COTTAGES WOULD OFFER 12 EACH FOR A TOTAL OF 24 NEW BEDS.

THERE'S A VARIETY OF STATE LICENSING PARAMETERS THAT NEED TO BE FULFILLED BUT REALLY THIS LENDS ITSELF TO BEING FITTING VERY WELL WITHIN RESIDENTIAL CORRIDORS, PITCHED ROOFS, AS YOU WALK INTO FACILITIES LIKE HAD THIS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO BUY A COMMON A SHARED KITCHEN, A VERY FAMILY ORIENTED FEEL WHERE YOU CAN FEEL AS THOUGH YOUR LOVED ONES ARE GETTING THE CARE AND ATTENTION THEY SO DESIRE. THE TWO NEW COTTAGES WOULD BE BY A PROPOSED RAIN GARDEN AND SUBTERRANEAN DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT PRESENTLY EXISTS ALONG THE SITE.

THERE'S AN EXISTING 30 FOOT TREE PRESERVATION ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE SITE WHICH PROVIDES A PADDED BUFFER BUT ALSO PRESERVES THE WOODED AREA THAT EXISTS ON THE SITE.

THAT 30 FOOT BUFFER AREA WOULD CONTINUE AND AS PART OF THE PUD ORDINANCE FOR THE GREENHOUSE COTTAGE AND IS THE GREENHOUSE RESTORE PUD, WITH GREAT DISCUSSION TAT PLANNING DISCUSSION STAGE BUT GREAT DIALOGUE WEBSINGER ARE PLEASED TO OFFER A COMMITMENT TO THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING AS PART OF ANY APPROVAL OF BOTH THE AMENDMENT AND THE NEW PUD A DEDICATION OF RIGHT OF WAY AS CONTEMPLATED BY THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN OF THE CITY.

YOU CAN SEE THAT DEDICATION OF RIGHT OF WAY INDICATED IN A LIGHT BLUE COLOR.

THAT'S ABOUT IN TOTAL ABOUT A QUARTER OF AN ACRE, IT EXPANDS TO A GREATER AREA, IT'S ABOUT 10 FEET ALONG MOST OF THIS AREA FROM NORTH TO ABOUT MIDDLE OF THE SITE EXPAND TOG 20 AND THEN 30 FEET AND AN ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY ALONG FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE ROAD OR THE TRAIL, WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT WOULD BE A SET OF COMMITMENTS RECORDED AGAINST THE PROPERTY IF THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED AS PROPOSED, THAT RIGHT OF WAY WOULD BE DEDICATED BEFORE ANY BUILDING PERMIT WOULD BE ISSUED. THE SET OF DOCUMENTS WERE SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL, TAFS DISCUSSION AT PLANNING COMMISSION PARTICULARLY AT PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL'S ATTORNEY SUPPORT THING SUGGESTION THAT THAT WOULD BE MEMORIALIZED IN A SET OF COMMITMENTS SO AGAIN PLEASED TO OFFER THOSE TONIGHT. THAT DOES PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL BUFFERING TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE EAST AS I MENTIONED, THAT AND COMBINED WITH SOME RECONFIGURATION OF THE SITE RENDERED A 9-0 UNANIMOUS PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THIS PLAN MEET IT IS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FIT WIDTHS THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PLOWS FOR MANY FACETS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO BE CAPITALIZED ON HERE.

ONE I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS EVENING IS AGING IN PLACE AND BEING AN INTELLIGENT INFILL DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT MACRO ECONOMIC TREND HAPPEN INING ALL OF THE UNITED STATES PARTICULARLY IN INDIAN NRA AND HAMILTON COUNTY ABOUT AGING IN PLACE, THERE IS 189 SKILLED NURSING FACILITY BEDS PER YEAR SORTAGE IN HAMILTON COUNTY.

THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE RETOER SI OF CARMEL IN THEIR EXISTING FACILITY AND THEIR PROPOSED FACILITY WON'T BE ABLE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM BUT THEY ARE ONE PART OF THE SOLUTION TO OFFER AN EXCELLENT INFILL DEVELOPMENT SITE TO ADD 24 NEW SKILLED LICENSE BEDS TO THIS PIPELINE. THERE IS NO EXISTING PIPELINE OF SKILLED NURSING FACILITY BEDS THAT FALL INTO THIS MORATORIUM IN CARMEL OR IN HAMILTON COUNT DI -- COUNTY SO

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THE RESTORE SI OF CARMEL AND THE RESTORE SI PRODUCT HAS BEEN HONORED IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS BUT IN PARTICULAR LAST YEAR WINNING THE IVJ EXCELLENCE AND HEALTH CARE AWARD AND RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR GREAT SERVICE HERE. MY CLIENT CONTINUING TO BE A GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN OF THE COMMUNITY, WE EXPECT TO BE A DISCUSSION AT LAND USE COMMITTEE, WE LOOK FOR A DISCUSSION BY THE COUNCIL OF WHEN THAT DATE WOULD BE AND I'M CERTAINLY AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THIS EVENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND

CONSIDERATION. >> WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:31.

SEEING NO ONE FROM THE PUBLIC, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:32.

>> COMMENTS? >> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, I WILL WAIT FOR IT AT LAND USE.

I WILL NOT BE AT THE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, IS THIS WHERE THE 90 DAY STARTS TODAY OR A

QUESTION FOR ANYBODY THAT CAN ANSWER THAT. >> GOOD EVENING, MIKE, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES, THE 90 DAY CLOCK START FROM THE DATE OF CERTIFICATION, APRIL 22 IS

THE MAGIC HOUR, SO YOU HAVE UNTIL APRIL 22. >> REAL QUICK, I KNOW THE LAST ORDINANCE WE JUST HAD DIDN'T APPEAR TO HAVE ANY REMON STRAYING, WAS THERE ANY REMON STRAYING WITH THIS AND ANY COMMITMENTS THAT YOU HAD WITH THE HOA?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, WE DID NOTICE AND HOST A PUBLIC MEETING FOR THE NEIGHBORS.

THERE WERE TWO RESIDENTS WHO ATTENDED THAT MEETING. EVERYONE WHO RECEIVED PUBLIC NOTICE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING RECEIVED THOSE TWO RESIDENTS LIVE IN CONCORD VILLAGE TO THE EAST. ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS DID SPEAK AT THE INITIAL PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING IN OPPOSITION TO THE MATTER.

THE DISCUSSION ULTIMATELY LED TO A VARIETY OF REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN.

THAT INCLUDED ADDITIONAL BUFFERING TO THE EAST, DEDICATION AS YOU JUST ALLUDED TO, A DEDICATION OF RIGHT OF WAY, ADDITIONAL TREE BUFFERING AS WELL AS A VISUAL BUFFERING OF A FENCE THAT WILL CONNECT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THIS BUILDING AND THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THIS BUILDING TO ADD THAT ADDITIONAL BUFFERING. ULTIMATELY NO OTHER INSTANCES OF COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC PRESETED THEMSELVES OTHER THAN WHAT I HAVE OFFERED TONIGHT.

>> MR. PRESIDENT? >> YES. >> I TALKED TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO MON STRIATED AFTER THE MEETING, STORMWATER WAS ONE THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, AS WE CONTINUE TO DEVELOP, WHAT CAN WE DO TO ADDRESS IT, HOW MUCH OF IT GOES ON YOU AND THE CITY AND ALSO PUBLICLY THERE WAS COMMENTS ABOUT THE EXTENSION, THE POSSIBLE EXTENSION OF A ROAD AND HOW THAT AFFECTED HOUSES. I WANTED TO BE CLEAR, THEY'VE BEEN GREAT TO DEDICATE RIGHT OF WAY BUT THEY HAVE NO SAY IN WHETHER A ROAD GOES THERE OR NOT SO I DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP THIS PROJECT OR PENALIZE THEM FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT IN THEIR CONTROL, WHETHER A ROAD HAPPENS THERE OR NOT. THEY GAVE US THE RIGHT OF WAY

IN CASE THAT IS SOMETHING DECIDED DOWN THE ROAD. >> THIS WILL GO TO LAND USE.

[13.c. First Reading of Ordinance Z-705-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Establishing the Restoracy of Carmel Planned Unit Development District; Sponsors: Councilors Aasen and Minnaar.]

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>> NEXT IS FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE Z-705-26. .

INGER MOVE TO INTRODUCE. ER >> SECOND.

>> AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA ESTABLISHING THE RESTORACY OF CARMEL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, SPONSORS COUNCILMAN AASEN AND MINNAAR. DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS ONE AS WELL?

>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ORDINANCE AMENDING THE REGULATION OF PARKING ON AUTUMN

DRIVE. NO. >> WE'RE STILL IN OLD

BUSINESS. >> SORRY. I'M SORRY.

MY APOLOGIES, LONG NIGHT. ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES THE RESTORACY OF CARMEL PLANNED

UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. >> DO WE NEED ANYMORE COMMENT ON THIS ONE? WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE SAME TIME.

THIS WILL ALSO GO ALONG WITH THE OTHER ONE TO LAND USE. NEW BUSINESS, FIRST READING OF

[14.a. First Reading of Ordinance D-2811-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending Chapter 8, Article 5, Section 8-47 of the Carmel City Code; Sponsors: Councilors Taylor and Worrell. ]

>> MOVER TO INTRODUCE. >> SECOND. >> ORDINANCE AMENDING THE

REGULATION OF PARKING ON AUTUMN DRIVE. >> ANY COMMENTS PRESENTLY ABOUT THIS, THIS WILL GO TO FINANCE AND RULES COMMITTEE, BUT ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE THIS EVENING? ALRIGHT. AGENDA ITEM, ITEM, NONE.

OTHER BUSINESS? NONE. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS?

[17. ANNOUNCEMENTS ]

>> CAN I SAY ONE THING? >> PLEASE. >> I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY THIS EARLIER BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE LIGHT OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKING, BUT I DO WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE CARMEL GIRLS SWIM TEAM FOR WINNING STATE.

THIS IS 40 IN A ROW, SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM. [APPLAUSE].

>> FANTASTIC. ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? THANK YOU, CARMEL, FOR LIVING UP TO EVERY EXPECTATION IN YOUR DECORUM AND MANNER THIS EVENING. WE ARE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.