[A. Call Meeting to Order]
          [B. Pledge of Allegiance]
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          >> GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE JULY 21ST MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          PLEASE JOIN US AS WE RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          [C. Roll Call ]
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. 
          [D. Declaration of Quorum ]
          [E. Approval of Minutes  ]
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A COURTROOM. 
          NEXT UP IS APPROVAL OF OUR JUNE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? AND A SECOND. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR OF APPROVING THE JUNE PLANNING MEETING MEANT-- MINUTES, SAY AYE. 
          THEY ARE APPROVED. NEXT UP, EXPENDITURES AND LEGAL COUNCIL REPORT. ALTERNATE OVER TO OUR LEGAL 
          [G. Reports, Announcements & Department Concerns ]
          COUNCIL. >> I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT UP IS REPORTS, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND DEPARTMENT CONCERNS. 
          ALTERNATE OVER TO OUR DEPARTMENT STAFF. 
          >> JUST A QUICK UPDATE FROM THE LAST MANY MEETING. 
          THESE DOLLHOUSE BOOKS AND CAFE REBUILD WAS APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS. THE 27 TOWN SUBDIVISION PRIMARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS ALSO APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS. 
          AND THE HUNTERS GLENN WALL CHANGE WAS TABLED TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING, AUGUST 4TH. ONE OTHER ITEM WE HAVE IS THERE IS A NEED FOR RULES OF SUSPENSION IN ORDER TO HEAR ITEM FIVE, WHICH IS THE PRAIRIE INNOVATION DISTRICT DEVELOP AND PLAN. THEY MAKE MOST OF THEIR NOTICE ON TIME. THE LETTERS WERE MAILED CORRECTLY AND THE SIGN WAS BASED CORRECTLY. 
          BUT THE NOTICE IN THE PAPER WAS I BELIEVE A WEEK LATE. 
          SO THEY STILL MET THE STATE REQUIREMENTS. 
          BUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RULES REQUIRED 21 DAYS. 
          SO IT WOULD REQUIRE A SUSPENSION OF THE RULES. 
          >> WE WILL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT NOW. 
          CAN I HEAR A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR OF SUSPENDING THE RULES AND PROCEDURES TO HEAR THE PRIMARY DOCKET, SAY AYERS. 
          ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE. 
          [H.1. Docket No. PZ-2026-00115 PP/SP: Skwarcan Minor Subdivision]
WE WILL DO THAT. THIS BRINGS US TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR MEETING. AND THIS EVENING WE HAVE FOUR DOCKETS. I SEE A LOT OF NEW FACES TONIGHT. SO I WILL GO OVER THE RULES OF OUR PROCEDURE. HOW IT WILL WORK, FOR EACH PETITION THE PETITIONER WILL HAVE UP TO 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR PETITION. AFTER THAT I WILL OPEN IT UP TO COMMENTS, AND YOU CAN SPEAK IN FAVOUR OR IN OPPOSITION OF A PETITION. GENERALLY SPEAKING IT'S A 20 MINUTE TIME FRAME. BUT WE WILL BE SOMEWHAT FLEXIBLE TO ENSURE THAT ALL VOICES ARE HEARD. 
          AFTER THAT, THE PETITIONER WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE REBUTTAL. THEY HAVE A FIVE-MINUTE REBUTTAL. UPON CONCLUSION OF THE COMMISSIONERS REBUTTAL, WE TURNED OVER TO THE DEPARTMENT STAFF FOR THEIR COMMENTS. AND UPON THE CONCLUSION OF THE DEPARTMENT STAFF, THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION IS CLOSED, BUT I WILL OPEN IT UP TO DELIBERATIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          WITH THAT, I WILL READ IN TO THE RECORD OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THIS IS DOCKET NUMBER... THE APPLICANT SEEKS MINOR SUBDIVISION APPROVAL TO SPLIT 15.74-ACRE PARCEL IN TO TWO RESIDENTIAL LOTS. THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT 2525 WEST 141ST STREET, AND IS OWNED S1 RESIDENTIAL. 
          I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE PETITIONER. 
          >> GOT IT. THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATED. 
          GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. 
          I AM GREG WITH CROSSROAD ENGINEERS, REPRESENTING THE PETITION BEFORE YOU. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 1000 FEET WEST OF THE ROUNDABOUT OF 141ST AND TOWN ROAD. TOTAL ACREAGE JUST UNDER 6 ACRES. ABOUT 5.7. 
          THE PURPOSE OF THE APPLICATION IS TO SIMPLY DIVIDE THIS IN TO TWO SINGLE FAMILY LOTS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE SUCH THAT THIS HOME IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          THE NEW PROPERTY LINE WILL BE BISECTING THE EXISTING ACRES, 
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AND THAT WILL RETAIN-- OR CREATE A NEW LOT FOR SALE. 
          NO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. NO IMPROVEMENTS ARE PROPOSED AT THIS TIME. AT SUCH TIME THAT THE LOT IS SOLD AND THE DEVELOPER COMES IN WITH A PLAN, THEY WILL COORDINATE AS NECESSARY THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS TO GET THOSE APPROVALS. JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, SHOWING THE AERIAL OF THE PLOT. WORKING WITH STAFF WE HAVE THE NECESSARY UTILITY EASEMENTS ON THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY. 
          WE COMMITTED TO 15-FOOT TREE RESIN-- PRESERVATION STRIP ABOUT THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE THE WEST LOT, LOT ONE, WITH AN EXISTING COMB. THE ADDRESS OF THAT IS 252-5100-- 2525, 141ST. AND THE FINAL DOCUMENT, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. JUST CLEANED UP. 
          THIS IS WHAT WILL BE SENT OUT FOR EXECUTION AND RECORDING. 
          THIS IS THE TWO LOTS. LOT ONE BEING TWO AND A HALF ACRES. AND LOT TWO BEING THE SAME. 
          JUST OVER TWO AND A HALF ACRES. JUST BEING STRAIGHTFORWARD, I APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S COMMENTS AND WORKING THROUGH THEM, AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. AND WITH THAT I WILL BE HAPPY TO 
          ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          BY SHOW OF HANDS, WOULD ANYBODY HERE LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOUR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PETITION? PLEASE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND STATE GENERALLY WHERE YOU LIVE. PLEASE GO UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION. 
          AND PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. ONE SECOND, PLEASE. 
          WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU 3 MINUTES. 
          AND WE HAVE LIGHTS UP HERE. IT IS GREEN, AND IT WILL TURN YELLOW. AND WHEN IT IS RED, WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS. PLEASE GO AHEAD. 
          >> YES. I OWN THE PROPERTY WITH MY HUSBAND, RATE BEHIND THE LOT. SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK SOME CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. THERE IS A BIG STORM WATER DRAINAGE IN MY PROPERTY. AND COLLECTS WATER FROM A LOT OF THE COMMON AREAS ACROSS THE STREET. 
          AND AT THIS TIME IT'S SORT OF WORKS, BUT IT IS KIND OF CRITICAL IF THE LAND NXT TO US WILL NOT HAVE SUCH A STORM WATER DRAINAGE. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF WE ARE GOING TO SHARE THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. SO I UNDERSTOOD THERE IS ABOUT 15 FEET OF UTILITIES. THAT MAYBE THE SAME THING. 
          OR I JUST DON'T KNOW THE CONCEPT. 
          I JUST WANT THE CLARIFICATION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> CAN WE GET YOUR NAME? >> I OWN THE PROPERTY AT SIMCOE 
          WEST. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND. 
          >> YES, UNFORTUNATELY I DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR YOU, JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE NO LAND IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED AT THIS TIME. WHAT I CAN CONFIRM IS THAT EXISTING DRAINAGE PATTERNS AND EVERYTHING WILL CONTINUE. 
          AND I AM TRYING TO SEE-- I DID NOT SEE WHERE SHE POINTED. 
          JUST SOUTH DO OF LOT TWO WE WATCH-- WHICH LOT WHERE YOU? THIS ONE RIGHT HERE? [INDISCERNIBLE] 
          >> I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. >> COULD YOU PLEASE RETURN TO YOUR STREETS-- YOUR SEAT, THANK YOU. 
          AND YOU ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE ISSUE? 
          >> WHAT I CAN SPEAK TO ON THE POINT, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WILL BE DEVELOPED, BUT IT WILL BE A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL-- A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME. THE DETAILS OF THAT, THE DRAINAGE PLAN OF THAT WILL ALL BE SUBMITTED, REVIEWED AND APPROVED AT SUCH TIME AS IT IS KNOWN. 
          AND JUST WITH MY EXPERIENCE WITH STAFF AND WORKING WITH ENGINEERING AND PLANNING, I KNOW THEY ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. 
          NOT MUCH OF AN ANSWER, BUT THAT'S THE BEST TIME I HAVE AT THIS-- BEST ONE I HAVE AT THIS TIME. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF FOR 
          THE DEPARTMENT REPORT. >> THANK YOU. 
          ALEXIA LOPEZ WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. 
          THE PETITIONER SEEKS TO SUBDIVIDE THIS 5.74-ACRE PARCEL IN TO TWO LOTS. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED S-1 RESIDENTIAL. THE PROPERTY MEETS THE STANDARDS OF THE MEL. THE EXISTING HOME WILL REMAIN ON THE WESTERN LOT, WITH SEPTIC. AND THE NEW LOT WILL CONNECT TO 
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SEWER AS IT DEVELOPS. EACH LOT WILL HAVE IT'S OWN DRIVEWAY. THERE IS A 15-FOOT TREE PRESERVATION EASEMENT THAT WILL SUBDIVISION, AND RIGHT OF WAY ALONG 41ST STREET WILL BE DEDICATED WITH A SUBDIVISION AS WELL. A 10-FOOT WALK CONSTRUCTED ALREADY ALONG 141ST STREET THERE RECENTLY. 
          SO THAT PATH WILL CONNECT NOW FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST. 
          AND THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE VOTE TO SUSPEND THE RULES OF PROCEDURE AND VOTE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM PROCEEDING. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL OPEN IN TWO COMMENTS FROM MY FELLOW PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, THIS COMPLIES WITH THE S-1 RESIDENTIAL ZONING. AND EVEN IN THE DEPARTMENT REPORT, THIS IS PART OF THE PLAN. 
          SO I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS FOR THIS. 
          IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS-- YES? I NEED A MOTION TO SUSPEND OUR RULES AND PROCEDURES TO VOTE ON 
          THIS ONE. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION. 
          >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSE? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SUSPENDED OUR RULES AND PROCEDURES. DO I HEAR A MOTION? 
          >> I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED. 
          >> I WOULD SAY WITH THE ADDITION OF THE DRAINAGE PLAN APPROVAL, THE TIME OF BUILD, THAT THAT IS ADDRESSED. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. 
          >> THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR OF APPROVING WITH THE ONE CONDITION OF WORKING ON THE ENGINEERING OF THE DRAINAGE AT THE TIME WHEN THE HOUSE IS BROUGHT FORWARD, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE? 
          [Items H.2. & H.3.]
CONGRATULATIONS. YOU ARE APPROVED. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. 
          WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE% SECOND DOCKET. 
          THERE ARE TWO DOCKETS COMBINED FOR THIS NEXT PETITION. 
          DOCKET NO. PZ-2026-00116 DP AMEND: LEPPERT MORTUARIES EXPANSION TUARIES EXPANSION. 
          DOCKET NO. PZ-2026-00117 ADLS AMEND: LEPPERT MORTUARIES EXPANSIO TUARIES EXPANSION. 
          IT IS SOWN THREE BUSINESS WITHIN THE RANGE LINE OVERLAY. 
          IT'S FILED BY BRIAN ON BEHALF OF... 
          I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE PETITIONER. 
          >> TECHNOLOGY AND ME ARE PROBABLY NOT A VERY COMPATIBLE RELATIONSHIP. GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS RYAN. I REPRESENT LEPPERT MORTUARY IN THIS PETITION. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ESTIMATE. 
          HERE WITH US OUR BILL AND JOHN FROM LEPPERT MORTUARY. 
          ALSO SHONE FROM OUR ARCHITECTURE FIRM CATKINS SIN THE WHO WAS KIND ENOUGH TO CONNECT ME TO THIS SYSTEM HERE, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT WORK WITH ME USING IT. LET ME SEE HERE. 
          THAT IS WHY WE BROUGHT THE PAVER. 
          -- THE PAPER. >> I WILL REPLUG IT IN. 
          [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I JUST DID. 
          AWESOME. >> THIS IS FANTASTIC, MEMBERS OF COMMISSION. AGAIN, TO START OVER, I AM BRIAN TUOHY. WE ARE REQUESTING SITE AND DESIGN APPROVAL FOR 82900 SQUARE-FOOT EDITION ONTO THE LAWN-- LONG EXISTING LEPPERT MORTUARY AT 900 NORTH RANGE LINE ROAD. TO SHOWS YOU THE SITE. 
          AS I MENTIONED, IT'S BEEN THE MORTUARY SINCE THE MID-1950S. 
          TO THE NORTH IS THE FOOD TRUCK LOT, AND A STORAGE PLACE TO THE WEST, TO THE LEFT OF THAT YELLOW LINE. 
          CONDOMINIUMS. AND TO THE SOUTH IS A UTILITY SUBSTATION. ACROSS THE STREET IS THE CARMEL STREET DEPARTMENT. SO AN AREA OF A MORTUARY, AND 
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OTHER MIXED USES, INCLUDING SOME RESIDENTIAL UTILITY AND MUNICIPAL ESTABLISHMENTS. THIS SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE 2950 SQUARE-FOOT EDITION WOULD BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN A MINUTE. 
          IN ADDITION TO THIS ADDITION THERE WILL BE LANDSCAPING AND SOME RETAINING WALLS. SOME ROCK GARDENS, RAIN GARDENS, SOME BENCH AND SEATING AREAS. BECAUSE THIS ROOM IS A MULTIPURPOSE ROOM FOR CELEBRATIONS OF LIFE, MEETINGS, FAMILY GATHERINGS, ET CETERA. THE MORTUARY IS NOT JUST BIG ENOUGH TO SERVE THEIR CLIENTELE, AND THAT IS THE REASON FOR THIS ADDITION. THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH LOOKING FROM THE SOUTH. LOOKING NORTH. 
          THAT IS THE EXISTING SOUTH END OF THIS SITE. 
          THAT WILL CHANGE. BUT THIS PARKING LOT AND THESE TREES WILL NOT CHANGE. WE WILL CONFIRM THAT AND MAKE IT PART OF OUR AREA THIS EVENING. THIS SHOWS WHAT THE-- THE TOP ELEVATION IS WHAT I JUST SHOWED YOU IN A PHOTOGRAPH. 
          SO THAT'S THE SOUTH ELEVATION, THE EXISTING MORTUARY. 
          THE BOTTOM PHOTO SHOWS THE FRONT DOOR, AND THE 2950 PLUS OR MINUS SQUARE-FOOT EDITION. THAT IS TO THE RIGHT OF THAT LOWER RENDERING. THIS ELEVATION IS LOOKING SOUTHWEST, SO I AM STANDING THERE ON RANGE LINE ROAD LOOKING AT THE EAST END OF THE BUILDING SOUTHWEST TOWARDS THAT PARKING LOT. THIS ELEVATION-- THIS PHOTOGRAPH IS LOOKING NORTHWEST. AGAIN, THAT IS THE EAST SIDE OF THE EXISTING MORTUARY, WHERE THE ADDITION OF THE RAIN GARDEN AND THAT LANDSCAPED AREA WILL GO INTO. 
          IN THE FOREGROUND OF THAT PHOTOGRAPH. 
          SO THIS DEPICTS WHAT THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE LOOKS LIKE NOW. 
          THOSE PHOTOS I SHOWED YOU IS THE TOP RENDERING. 
          AND THE BOTTOM RENDERING IS THE RENDERING DEPICTING THE PORTION THAT GOES ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THE ADDITION OF THE 2950, ALMOST 3000 SQUARE FEET ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE. 
          THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN IT IS COMPLETED. 
          THAT IS THE ADDITION ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE. 
          ON THE LEFT OF THAT PHOTOGRAPH IS THE... 
          THE ENTRANCE DOES NOT CHANGE, BUT THIS SHOWS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN COMPLETED. AND THAT AREA IN THE FOREGROUND IN FRONT OF THAT ADDITION IS THE LANDSCAPED AREA. 
          THIS SHOWS SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING FEATURES, INCLUDING THE RAIN GARDEN, A BENCH AREA, RETAINING WALL, EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPE AND PLANNING BETWEEN THE ADDITION AND THE STREET LINE OF RANGE LINE ROAD. IN SUMMARY, FOR THE SITES PROPERTY, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT IN THE 1950S. IF THIS BODY APPROVES THIS IT WILL ALLOW FOR AN EXPANSION ALONG THE BUILDING WITH SUBSTANTIAL NEW LANDSCAPING. IT WILL CERTAINLY IMPROVE THE STREETSCAPE ALONG NORTH RANGE LINE ROAD THERE. 
          THIS WILL BE A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1 MILLION, AND $2 MILLION. IT WILL MODERNIZE AN AGING BUILDING. THE BCA HAS POOR VARIANCES BECAUSE OF IT'S LOCATION IN THE ZONING AND CARAMEL. 
          THE RANGE LINE OVERLAY IS KNOWN IN THE BCA TO HAVE GRANTED ALL FOUR OF THOSE VARIANCES. I THINK I SENT OUT ABOUT 50 NOTICES. I HEARD FROM ONE PERSON, WHO WHEN I DESCRIE WHAT I WAS DOING, THEY SAID THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA. OTHER THAN THAT WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM ANYONE ELSE. WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE WORK OF ALEXIA AND HER TEAM AND THE STAFF. 
          THEY HAVE I THINK THREE COMMENTS. 
          ONE THAT WE WOULD AGREE OR CONFIRM THAT WE WILL DESIGN AND ADA COMPLIANT SIDEWALK FROM THE STREET SIDEWALK ALONG RANGE LINE ROAD UP TO THE BUILDING. WE HAVEN'T QUITE FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO THAT. THERE IS GREAT ELEVATION, BUT WE WILL WORK WITH THE ADA COMPLIANT PERSON IN CARMEL TO GET THAT FIGURED OUT. THE SECOND CONDITION WAS TO CONFIRM THAT THE TREES IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE-- I THINK IT MEANT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE, THAT THEY WILL STAY IN PLACE AND WE ARE NOT TOUCHING THOSE TREES. 
          AND THE LAST CONDITION WAS LIGHTING. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ADDING LIGHTING TO THE SITE. THE ONLY LIGHTING WE WOULD BE ADDING WOULD BE UNDER THAT... AND WHATEVER WE ADD IN THERE WILL MEET THE CARMEL LIGHTING STANDARDS. 
          SO WITH THAT WE WOULD TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS MIGHT HAVE. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING THE CASE THIS EVENING. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BY A SHOW OF HANDS, WOULD ANYBODY HERE LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOUR OR OPPOSITION OF THIS 
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PETITION? SEEING NONE, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ALEXIA FOR THE DEPARTMENT STAFF REPORT. 
          >> ENQUEUE. ALEXIA LOPEZ, DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. AS THE PETITIONER STATED THIS WILL BE APPROXIMATELY A 2900 SQUARE-FOOT EDITION ADDED TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. 
          AND THERE WILL BE NEW LANDSCAPED AREAS, A RAIN GARDEN TREND EIGHT-- TO THE EAST OF THE ADDITION, WHICH WILL HELP WITH STORMWATER ON THE SITE. THEY ARE ADDING A BE HICKEY ALERT DROP-OFF DRIVER, AND A MAIN ENTRANCE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. 
          -- A VEHICULAR DROP-OFF DRIVE. AND A MAIN ENTRANCE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. IT'S BEEN REQUESTED THAT AN ADDITIONAL ROUTE BE PROVIDED FROM THE PUBLIC STREET TO THE BUILDING. AND SO WITH THAT WAS ONE OF OUR COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE. THE PETITIONER STATED THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH US ON THAT. I HAVE TALKED WITH OUR ADA COORDINATOR. HE SEEMS TO THINK THAT THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          THE EXISTING BUILDING IS A ONE-STORY BRICK BUILDING WITH WHITE SIDING ON THE GABLES. THE ADDITION WILL HAVE A BRICK SIDING WITH A STONE BASE. THE DROP-OFF CANOPY WILL HAVE BRICK COLUMNS AND A FLAT ROOF. WE BELIEVE THE ADDITION COMPLEMENTS THE EXISTING BUILDING. 
          AND THE MATERIALS AND HEIGHT AND ROOF AND SLOPE WILL REFLECT THE MODERN COMMERCIAL AESTHETIC FOR THE BUILDING. 
          SOME OF THE NEW LANDSCAPING TO THE EAST OF THE ADDITION WILL INCLUDE TREES, ORNAMENTAL TREES, ORNAMENTAL-- GRASSES, PERENNIALS AND GROUNDCOVERS. THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY SIGNAGE CHANGES WITH THIS ADDITION, HOWEVER IF THEY WERE TO CHANGE SOME SIGNAGE, THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN-- AND A BLS AMENDMENT. SOME SUSTAINABILITY FEATURES THAT THEY HAVE INCORPORATED INCLUDE NATIVE AND DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANTS, AS WELL AS THOSE NEW TREES. 
          THE PETITIONER, I BELIEVE ADDRESSED OUR STATED COMMENTS. 
          YES, I WAS REFERRING TO THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, AND NOT THE SOUTHEAST. SO THAT TREE WILL BE REMAINING TO THE WEST OF WHERE THE DROP-OFF CANOPY IS. 
          AND THEY SAID THEY ARE NOT CHANGING ANY OF THE LIGHTING ON THE SITE. AND THEY AGREED TO WORK WITH US ON THAT SIDEWALK CONNECTION FROM THE PATH RANGE UP TO THE BUILDING. WE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO VOTE TO SUSPEND THE RULES OF THE PROCEDURE AND VOTE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM CONTINGENT UPON-- OR CONDITION UPON THAT ADA ACCESS. YOU WILL REMEMBER WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH ANOTHER PROJECT RECENTLY. 
          TO HELP THEM HAVE ADA ACCESS AS WELL. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. 
          >> I WILL OPEN IT UP NOW TO THE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? JEFF? 
          >> BEAR WITH ME. I HAVE IT HERE SOMEWHERE. 
          THE-- I THINK WHAT I HAVE HEARD, BRIAN IF YOU CAN ANSWER, BUT YOU ARE SPENDING-- EXPANDING THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT. 
          THERE HAS BEEN A RENEWED FOCUS ON DRAINAGE. 
          ARE YOU ABLE TO HANDLE THE DRAINAGE WITHOUT THE FACILITIES? 
          IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? >> LET ME INTRODUCE SHONE, OUR ARCHITECT. I THINK HE'S BETTER WITH THE ANSWER TO THAT. -- SEAN. 
          >> THANK YOU. SEAN, FROM INDIANAPOLIS. 
          YES, OUR ENGINEERING IS WORKING ON THE SITE DESIGN. 
          AND WE HAVE ACCOMMODATED THROUGH THE EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING WE ARE ADDING TO THE FRONT RAIN GARDENS AND PLANTING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE. 
          >> THE LANDSCAPING LOOKS GREAT, BY THE WAY. 
          ONE THING I NOTICED, AND MAYBE IT'S MORE OF A CLARIFICATION TYPE OF QUESTION. WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS ON THE GIS, THERE IS KIND OF A JAGGED PROPERTY LINE ALONG RANGE LINE, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE EXHIBITS, IS THERE A RIGHT-OF-WAY DESIGNATION TO CLEAN THAT UP INTO A NICE STRAIGHT LINE? OR SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON THERE? THE REASON I ASK IS WHEN I LOOK AT G.I. ASKED, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A PORTION OF THE EXISTING TRAIL OR SIDEWALK OR RAMP THAT IS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE OR IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          I'M JUST NOT SURE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE 
          CLEANED UP? >> I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          THERE ARE A COUPLE OF UNUSUAL LINES IN THE OUTLINE OF THIS SITE, INCLUDING ONE TO THE NORTH RUNNING BACK TO THE WEST. 
          THERE IS KIND OF A TRIANGULAR PIECE. 
          AND MY ONLY GUESS IS THAT THIS WAS PROBABLY SURVEYED NOW 70 YEARS AGO. AND THERE IS PROBABLY SOME 
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CONFLICT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO MAKE A CLAIM FOR ADVERSE POSSESSION OR TRADE OVER OR 
          SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> FAIR TO SAY YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO DEDICATE A PLAN, OR WORK WITH THEM TO CLEAN THAT UP, 
          UP WE NEED TO? >> YES, SURE. 
          >> OKAY. ADAM AND. 
          >> DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS AREA WITH THE EXPANSION HAVING ANY CHALLENGES LEADING TO PARKING? IT'S AN EXPANSION SPACE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE OVER PART CURRENTLY. 
          >> I THINK THAT SHOWS THE SITE IS PRETTY WELL PARKED. 
          I ASKED THAT SITE TO OPERATORS, AND THEY SAID THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING IN THAT AREA. LEPPERT OPERATORS. 
          I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT IS OVER PART, BUT IT IS AMPLY PARKED 
          LET'S SAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF WE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THIS EVENING WE HAVE TO SUSPEND OUR RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR. 
          >> MY COMMENT IS THAT I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT YOU DESCRIBED THE INTERESTS OF THE DROP-OFF ZONE FOR A MORTUARY. 
          SORRY. I JUST FOUND THAT INTERESTING. 
          AND WITH THAT COMMENT, YES, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEIR LAST RIDE IS A SMOOTH ONE SO PAVING IS GOOD. 
          WITH THAT I MOVE WE SUSPEND THE RULE SO WE CAN VOTE ON THIS 
          TONIGHT. >> SECOND. 
          >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR OF SUSPENDING THE RULES AND PROCEDURES TO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT SAY AYE. 
          AND HE OPPOSED? HEARING NONE, THE RULES ARE SUSPENDED. DO I HAVE A MOTION? 
          >> I MOVE ADOPTION AS PRESENTED. I THINK IT'S ADDRESSING ALL THE OUTSTANDING ISSUES THE STAFF HAS. 
          >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR OF APPROVING THIS DOCKET SUBJECT TO FINALIZING ANY PRESENT DOCKS, ALL IN FAVOUR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? 
          [H.4. Docket No. PZ-2026-00118 PUD: Hampstead PUD ]
HEARING NONE. CONGRATULATIONS. 
          THANK YOU. CAP NEXT, THE NEXT DOCKET IS DOCKET NO. PZ-2026-00118 PUD: HAMPSTEAD PUD THE APPLICANT SEEKS PUD REZONE APPROVAL TO ALLOW A NEW SUBDIVISION WITH 36 LOTS. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 1850 W MAIN STREET. IT IS ZONED S-1/RESIDENTIAL. FILED BY RICK LAWRENCE OF NELSON & FRANKENBERGER ON BEHALF OF CHRISTOPHER SCOTT HOMES AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE 
          PETITIONER. >> THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS JOHN, WITH THE LAW FIRM OF NELSON AND FRANKENBERGER. WE REPRESENT CHRISTOPHER SCOTT HOLMES. AND ON BEHALF OF THEM IS CHRIS, LORI AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM. 
          AS INDICATED, CHRISTOPHER SCOTT HOLMES IS SEEKING APPROVAL TO PERMIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SMALL NEIGHBOURHOOD INCLUDING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENCES WITH SALES PRICES BETWEEN 1.5 AND $2 MILLION. THE REAL ESTATE IS IDENTIFIED HERE ON THIS AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH. IT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN THE INFORMATIONAL BROCHURES WE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THIS EVENING. 
          IT IS AN INFILL SITE LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 141ST STREET AND IT CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 9 ACRES. 
          THE REAL ESTATE IS OWNED S-1 RESIDENTIAL AS AN INPUT-- INFILL SITE, AND IS SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES BY OTHER EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND SUBDIVISION COMMON AREAS. 
          THE SUBJECT SITE-- INCLUDES TWO EXISTING HOMES AND A STREAM THAT GENERALLY ROUNDS AROUND THE NORTH PERIMETER OF THE SITE. 
          THE TWO VELMA TO PAY SINGLE-FAMILY HOME NEIGHBOURHOOD REPRESENTS AN APPROPRIATE ADDITION TO THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE EXHIBIT NOT ONLY DISPLAYS A COLOUR CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN THE INFORMATIONAL SUBMITTAL. AS INDICATED, THE PLAN IS TO DEVELOP A FOR-SALE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY COMMUNITY WITH ACCESS TO THE REAL ESTATE PROVIDED AT TWO LOCATIONS FROM 141ST STREET VIA PUBLIC STREETS. INTERNAL STREETS ORGANIZE THE HOMES ALONG TWO PRIMARY CORRIDORS, WHICH ENHANCE VISUAL CONNECTIVITY FROM THE NORTH AND SOUTH, AND TO THE EAST AND WEST. 
          PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY SIDEWALKS AND INTERNAL HOME POSITIONING, INCLUDING LANDSCAPING CREATE A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE PUBLIC REALM ALONG THE STREETS AND THE PRIVATE LIVING SPACES IN FRONT OF THE SIDE HOMES. REAR ACCESS TO GARAGES VIA 
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ALLEYS CREATE A LOW TRAFFIC WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT ALONG THE INTERNAL STREETS. ALL THE HOMES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ALLEYS. THE TWO ROUNDABOUTS IDENTIFIED HERE AND HERE AT THE PRIMARY ENTRANCES IN TO THE NEIGHBOURHOOD PROVIDE VISUAL CHARACTER AND SLOW TRAFFIC. 
          THE SCALE OF THE COMMUNITY IS INTENTIONAL. 
          SIMILAR POCKETS OF MORE DENSE, SINGLE-FAMILY EXIST NEARBY, AND THE TWO VELMA IT IS DESIGNED TO COMPLEMENT AND ENHANCE THE ESTABLISHED PATTERN OF SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PREVALENT IN THIS AREA. IT IS BALANCED WITH CITY AND GREEN SPACE. PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DESIGN, AND AN APPROPRIATE BUILDING SCALE. OPEN SPACE AND AMENITIES ARE ILLUSTRATED HERE. THE FIRST EXHIBIT ON THE LEFT REPRESENTS THE AREA WHERE THE STREAM CORRIDOR EXISTS. 
          THE AREA HERE I AM IDENTIFYING. AND ALONG THAT AREA HERE, BOTH AREAS ENHANCE THE VISUAL CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY INTERACTION, INCLUDING GAZEBO SPACES AND PASSIVE USES OF THOSE AREAS. 
          THIS AREA HERE IS BY 131ST STREET TO THE SOUTH, THE EASTERNMOST ENTRANCE, AND IS FORWARD OF THE TWO DWELLINGS THAT YOU SEE POSITIONED TO THE NORTH OF THIS SPACE. 
          THE OPEN SPACE ENHANCES-- OPEN SPACE AND WATER FEATURES CREATE VISUAL RELEASE-- RELIEF AND ARE IN POCKETS AND SCALE IN THE COMMON AREAS THT SURROUND THE SITE. 
          CHARACTER ILLUSTRATIONS OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ARE SHOWN HERE ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDES. THE WHOLE PROJECT HAS BEEN THOUGHTFULLY PLANNED WITH A HIGH QUALITY MODERN CONTEMPORARY ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. ELEGANT AND REFINED EXTERIORS WILL COMPLEMENT THE ELEVATION AND LEVEL OF FINISH ON THE INTERIORS. THE FIRST SLIDE HERE EXEMPLIFIES THE ELEGANCE AND REFINEMENT OF THOSE EXTERIOR DESIGNS. 
          THE GOAL IS TO PROVIDE AN ULTRALUXURY LOW MAINTENANCE COMMUNITY THAT CURRENTLY HAS ACCESS TO CARMEL TO BETTER SERVE THE NEEDS OF A SPECIFIC SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION. 
          THE INCLUSION OF THREE AND FOUR BEDROOM OPTIONS, ELEVATOR ACCESS, ROOFTOP TERRACES, ENTRY OR FOUR CAR GARAGES WILL CREATE HOUSING OPTIONS. LONGTIME CARMEL RESIDENTS SEEKING TO RIGHT SIZE WITHOUT LEAVING THE COMMUNITY WILL BE PROVIDED A LUXURY OPTION INCLUDING ADEQUATE GARAGE SPACE, WALKABLE ENVIRONMENTS AND MODERN LAYOUTS. 
          THIS EXHIBIT ON DISPLAY CURRENTLY IS OFF THE WESTERNMOST ENTRANCE OFF 131ST STREET LOOKING NORTH INTO THE PROPERTY. 
          THIS IS AN IMAGE LOOKING GENERALLY NORTH AND WEST ON THE INTERIOR NORTH-SOUTH STREET. AS NOTED THE HOMES ARE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS THAT RANGE BETWEEN $1.52 MILLION. 
          ADDITIONAL EVENING VIEW LABELLED SAFETY AND AMBIENCE. 
          IT'S INTENDED THAT THE SITE BE INTENTIONALLY LIGHTED AND LANDSCAPED AT A PEDESTRIAN LEVEL THAT IS PROVIDING ELIMINATION THAT-- RATHER THAN USING THE STREETLIGHTS. 
          THIS-- THIS DESIGN AND MATERIALS WILL ENHANCE HE WAS SURROUNDING OWNERS VALUES. COMPATIBILITY HAS BEEN CENTRAL TO DESIGN. AND IS ARCHITECTURALLY CONSISTENT WITH CARMEL STANDARDS. 
          THIS DESIGN IS INTENDED TO COMPLEMENT AND ELEVATE THE SURROUNDING AREA. THIS IMAGE ON DISPLAY HERE IS AN IMAGE OF THE TYPICAL SIDE YARD TREATMENT BETWEEN HOMES. 
          AS WE GET TO COMMITTEE WE WILL WALK-- TALK IN MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT, AND THE PUBLIC POSITIONING OF THESE PRIVATE OUTDOOR SPACES AS THEY INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER ALONG THE OUTSIDE OF THE HOMES. 
          A COUPLE ADDITIONAL PERSPECTIVE RENDERINGS. 
          THAT LASTLY, WITH REGARD TO THE HOME DESIGN, WHEN WE HAVE OUR NEIGHBOURHOOD MEETING A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE POSITIONING AND OUTDOOR SPACES. 
          THE ROOFTOP LIVING SPACES ON THE TOP OF THE SECOND-STORY, AND THAT THIRD STORY IS ONLY FOCUSED TO THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN AND SEE THE POSITION OF THE HOMES, IT IS ALL SUCH THAT ANY TYPE OF OUTDOOR LIVING ROOFTOP SPACES MORE INTERNAL TO THE SITE, RATHER THAN BEING ORIENTED TO THE OUTWARD POSITION OF THE COMMON AREAS. 
          AND ADJACENT RESIDENTS. THE OTHER IMAGE ON THE 
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RIGHT-HAND SIDE SHOWS THE BACK SIDE OF THE POTENTIAL HOMES AGAIN. SINGLE-STORY ELEMENT. 
          TWO STORY ELEMENT. AND THAT THIRD STORY. 
          STEPS FROM THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE. 
          WITH SINGLE-STORY, THE TWO STORY ELEMENT AND THE THREE-STORY ELEMENT BEYOND THAT AGAIN. THE ONLY OUTDOOR ROOFTOP SPACES INTERNAL TO THE SITE WRAPPED BY OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE HOMES. 
          REGARDING THE CARMEL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF REAL ESTATE, IT'S AN INFILL SITE AND REPRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BELLMAN THAT EXPANDS HOUSING OPTIONS, EXPANDS WALK ABILITY AND PROTECTS NEIGHBOURHOODS. 
          THE CITY STAFF HAVE IDENTIFIED ADDITIONAL POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT SUPPORT THE REQUEST. 
          FROM A PLANNING AND LAND-USE PERSPECTIVE, THE DO BELLMAN PROMOTES WALK ABILITY, AND CONNECTIVITY FOR PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY STAKES, WELL-DESIGNED PUBLIC OPEN SPACES AND DIRECT ACCESS TO THE EXISTING TRAIL NETWORK. 
          THIS PROXIMITY TO RETAIL SERVICES AND DINING ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE FURTHER REINFORCES A LIFESTYLE THAT REDUCES RELIANCE ON VEHICULAR TRIPS AND FORCES SUSTAINABLE DO BELLMAN GOALS. ADDITIONALLY THE PLAN LOW-MAINTENANCE-- LO MEIN IS TO VELMA AND PROVIDES ADDITIONAL HOUSING THAT PROVIDES OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES WITH REDUCED MAINTENANCE. COLLECTIVELY, THE DESIGN ELEMENTS OF HEMPSTEAD CONTRIBUTE TO A STRONG SENSE OF PLACE AND CREATE AN ATTRACTIVE AND ENDURING RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT. THE PROPOSED REZONE WILL FACILITATE A DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, RESPONSIVE TO MARKET DEMAND AND ALIGNING WITH BROADER COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES. ULTIMATELY ENHANCING THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR AREA RESIDENTS. 
          IN CONCLUSION, OUR TEAM HAD A MEETING A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. 
          A PROXIMAL HE 35 RESIDENTS ATTENDED AND OFFERED QUESTINS AND COMMENTS REGARDING YOUR REQUEST. 
          ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY STAFF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION FROM THE PUBLIC. WE HAVE REVIEWED THE STAFF REPORT. AFTER THE MEETING THIS EVENING WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON ADDRESSING THEIR COMMENTS, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WE HAVE RECEIVED. 
          UP TO THIS POINT IN WRITING. AND THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS COMMENTS. 
          WE WILL BE RETURNING AT SEPTEMBER 1ST, AT THE EARLIEST. AND THAT ADDITIONAL TIME WILL ALLOW US TO GIVE THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION TO ALL THE COMMENTSRECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND STAFF, AND COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR ADDITIONAL DIALOGUE REGARDING ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO THE PLAN. 
          WITH THAT, I WILL CONCLUDE. AND I'D BE GLAD TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION EITHER NOW OR AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          BY SHOW OF HANDS, HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOUR OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PETITION. 
          OKAY. GREAT. 
          SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS WE WILL PERMIT 3 MINUTES FOR EACH PERSON. AND I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEONE TO START, AND WHOEVER SPEAKS NEXT, HE YOU HAVE A LINE THAT STARTS SO WHEN ONE IS FINISHED, THE NEXT ONE CAN GO. 
          AND THE TIMER WILL BE ON THOSE LIGHTS. 
          IT WILL BE GREEN TO START, THEN YOU WILL GET THE WARNING OF YELLOW, WHEN IT IS RED, WRAP-UP YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE. 
          AND PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GENERALLY WHERE YOU LIVE. 
          I DON'T NEED ADDRESSES, GENERALLY. 
          BEFORE YOU START SPEAKING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          GO AHEAD, YOU CAN START. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          I LIVE IN 1312 SOUTH BARTON STREET. 
          WHICH IS A HOUSE. AND THIS PUD IS GOING TO BE RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE. CARMEL SPENT YEARS CREATING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, A VISION FOR THOUGHTFUL GROWTH THAT PRESENTS ESTABLISHED NEIGHBOURHOODS, PRESERVES NATURAL FEATURES, AND PRIORITIZES SAFETY. THIS NATIVE ELEMENT IS IMPACTFUL WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. THE CONSEQUENCE CALLS FOR EIGHT OF ELEMENT THAT ADDRESSES THE CHARACTER AND SCALE OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBOURHOODS AND PRESERVES NATURAL FEATURES WHERE POSSIBLE. YET DISPLACES 36 HOMES IN JUST S THAT PROVIDE PRIVACY, REDUCE NOISE AND SERVE AS AN IMPORTANT BUFFER BETWEEN NEIGHBOURHOODS. THIS IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. TONIGHT EYES-- RESPECTFULLY ASK, WHY ARE WE SETTING ASIDE THAT VISION TO ACCOMMODATE ONE DEVELOPERS PROPOSAL? AS A PARENT OF AN 8-YEAR-OLD 
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SON, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND INTERCONNECT ABILITY MATTER DEEPLY. OUR CHILDREN WALK AND BIKE THROUGH THE VILLAGE. THIS PROPOSAL INCREASES TRAFFIC BY LIMITING CONNECTIVITY. NOT HAVING A LEFT TURN IN TO THE NEW COMMUNITY AND DRIVING EAST ON MAIN STREET HAS PUSHED DRIVERS INTO OUR NEIGHBOURHOOD AND ON TO BARTON STREET TO PERFORM A U-TURN. CREATING AN UNNECESSARY RISK FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. AND FOR THOSE WHO DO A U-TURN AND COME INTO THE NEIGHBOURHOOD, HOURS BEING THE FIRST HOUSE, THEY WILL USE MY DRIVEWAY TO TURN AND MAKE THE U-TURN. 
          WHICH ALREADY HAPPENS. AND 36 HOMES MEANS AT LEAST 72 MORE CARS. NOT TO ADD THE AMAZON TRUCKS, THE DELIVERY TRUCKS, THE UTILITY TRUCKS TO ADD ON TO THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON MAIN STREET. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EXISTS TO GUIDE DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS AND PROTECT THE INTEREST OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. NOT TO BE SET ASIDE WHEN EVER A PROPOSAL DOES NOT FIT. IF YOU IGNORE THAT ADMISSION TODAY, WHAT CONFIDENCE DO RESIDENTS HAVE THAT IT WILL GUIDE ANY FUTURE DECISIONS? I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO UPHOLD THE PRINCIPLES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          PROTECT THE CHARACTER AND SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBOURHOOD, AND VOTE "NO" ON THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. 
          [APPLAUSE] >> ALL RIGHT. 
          IF YOU COULD PLEASE HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE, OTHERWISE THIS WILL TAKE A LONG TIME. UP NEXT, PLEASE INTRODUCE 
          YOURSELF. >> MY NAME IS CRAIG PRICE. 
          I ALSO LIVE IN THE DON BARTON SECTION. 
          THERE ARE 92 HOMES ON 56 ACRES IN THE DON BARTON SUBDIVISION. 
          THAT MEANS THERE ARE ABOUT 1.6 HOMES PER ACRE. 
          THERE ARE 36 PROPOSED HOMES ON Y WHICH GIVES YOU FOUR HOMES PER ACRE. THAT'S NEARLY THREE TIMES THE DENSITY OF THE DON BARTON AREA ADJACENT TO IT. 
          MY DISCUSSION TODAY IS PRIMARILY ON THE TRAFFIC SIDE OF THINGS. 
          THERE ARE THREE EXITS FROM THE DON BARTON NEIGHBOURHOOD, OUT OF THAT NEIGHBOURHOOD. ONE IS THE MAIN EXIT. 
          ONE IS THE FAIRMONT TO BROAD TO MAIN EXIT. 
          AND ONE IS THE EXIT TO 136 STREET. 
          ABOUT HALF OF THE TRAFFIC OF THAT NEIGHBOURHOOD IN MY ESTIMATION, IT'S NOT A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, GOES THROUGH THE MAIN DON BARTON STREET EXIT. I WOULD GUESS THAT THE OTHER HALF GOES THROUGH THE OTHER TWO EXITS. 
          SO, WITH HALF OF THE DON BARTON HOMES USING THE EXIT, THAT IS 46 HOMES. THE HEMPSTEAD PUD WOULD ADD 36 ADDITIONAL ON THAT PORTION OF MAIN STREET. 
          THAT IS A 78% INCREASE IN TURNING TRAFFIC ON TO MAIN STREET, APPROXIMATELY DOUBLED THE TRAFFIC. 
          DURING THE RUSH HOUR PERIODS, MORNING AND NIGHT, IT CAN TAKE SEVERAL MINUTES TO GET ACROSS TRAFFIC TO TURN EASTBOUND OFF OF DON BARTON OR WESTBOUND. THERE ARE OTHER PERIODS OF THE DAY WHERE IT HAPPENS. BUT IT'S A VERY CONGESTED AREA. 
          WE OFTEN THOUGHT THAT EVENTUALLY AT A ROUNDABOUT WE WOULD REQUIRE THAT INTERSECTION. IT'S QUITE BUSY. 
          THE HAMPSON TRAFFIC-- HEMPSTEAD TRAFFIC AS TO THAT. 
          AND ALL THE HEMPSTEAD TRAFFIC IS WESTBOUND ONLY. 
          EVERY ENTRY OR EXIT FROM HEMPSTEAD WILL REQUIRE A U-TURN AT SOME POINT. THERE ARE SIX POSSIBLE U-TURN POSITIONS ALONG MAIN STREET. GOING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION WE HAVE THE DON BARTON HORSE AREA INTERSECTION. 
          THE GATED COMMUNITY TURNAROUND, AND YOU HAVE THE DITCH ROUNDABOUT. I GUARANTEE REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER TRAFFIC LAWS THERE MAYBE, THAT PEOPLE WOULD USE THE NEAREST TURNAROUND. THEY WILL TURNAROUND AT HAVERFORD, FRONTAGE ROAD, OR BROAD STREET, AND THEY WILL TURNAROUND MOST LIKELY AT THE DON BARTON AREA. 
          AS PRIYA MENTIONED AREA-- BEFORE ME, BECAUSE THE DENSITY OF TRAFFIC IT'S LIKELY THAT-- IS THAT 3 MINUTES? 
          >> THAT WAS 3 MINUTES. FINISHER THOUGHT PLEASE. 
          >> WE LIKELY WILL NOT DO A TURNAROUND ON MAIN STREET. 
          YOU WILL LIKELY TURN IN TO DON BARTON AND THEN HAVE TO TURNAROUND THE MEDIAN THERE. WHICH MEANS GOING INTO SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY TO GET THAT TURN. 
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IN CONCLUSION, WE ARE NOT AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT OF A HEMPSTEAD PUD. WE ARE AGAINST THE DENSITY OF THE HEMPSTEAD PUD. THE PUD TO MODIFY S-1 ZONING IN THIS AREA SHOULD PROVIDE A BALANCE OF DENSITY, GREEN SPACE, SETBACKS, ET CETERA, TO MATCH THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. THE HEMPSTEAD PUD DOES NOT DO 
          THAT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CAP 
          NEXT, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. >> THANK YOU. 
          I WILL BE QUICK. MY NAME IS TIM. 
          MY WIFE AND I OWN PROPERTY, 7 ACRES, A SMALL FARM ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHAT WOULD BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THIS PUD. 
          I JUST WANT TO REEMPHASIZE THE COMMENTS THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY MADE. THAT IS MY CONCERN. 
          TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE. THERE ARE MANY MORNINGS WHERE IT TAKES ME FIVE, 6 MINUTES TO PULL OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY FOR JUST THE TRAFFIC GOING IN THE ONE DIRECTION EAST. 
          MORE TRAFFIC IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE HORRIBLE. 
          THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS AT THE MEETING WE HAD A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, WE WERE INFORMED THAT THEY HAD A PLAN AND IT WAS PRESENTED TO US AS THIS IS THE PLAN WE HAVE TO SUBMIT TO THE COUNCIL BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A DONE DEAL. 
          AND YET A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH THE WALK ABILITY AND OPEN SPACES. AND TONIGHT THEY PRESENTED TWO NEW PARKS THAT WERE EMBEDDED IN TO THE PLAN THAT WAS NOT SUBMITTED TO US ORIGINALLY. AND IT SEEMS TO ME THEY ARE NOW TRYING TO MAKE THINGS MORE PRESENTABLE SO WE ARE MORE AGREEABLE WITH THINGS THAT WERE NOT ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO US. 
          THE AREA IS TOO SMALL FOR THAT MANY HOUSES. 
          THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE ANY OF THE HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBOURHOOD. 
          AND IT IS JUST GOING TO BE A COMPLETE MESS. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JEREMY. 
          I LIVE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SITE. 
          AND TONIGHT I WANT TO SPEAK ON WHAT SEEMS LIKE A HOT-BUTTON ISSUE. STORM WATER AND DRAINAGE. 
          I DON'T HAVE TO ALLEGE ANYTHING TONIGHT. 
          THE DEPARTMENT REPORT FOR THIS HEARING STATES THAT THE PROPOSED POND SITS AT THE HIGHEST ELEVATION OF THE SITE, CLOSE TO AN EXISTING HOME. AND THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS CONCERNS A BOND IS NOT BIG ENOUGH. 
          SO IT'S THE WRONG PLACE, THE WRONG SIZE. 
          IN THE CITY'S OWN WORDS. WATER OBEYS GRAVITY. 
          A POND AT THE TOP OF THE HILL DOES NOT CATCH THE HILLS WATER. 
          BUT IT OVERWHELMS THAT OVERFLOW AND FOLLOWS IT DOWN TOWARDS ELLIOT CREEK AND THE HOMES AROUND IT. 
          WE ARE ENTITLED TO SEE WHERE THAT WATER GOES BEFORE ANY FAVOURABLE ACTION. THE FILED PLANNED UNITIVE ELEMENT ORDINANCE MAKES THIS WORSE. 
          IT'S ENTIRE STORMWATER SECTION IS ONE SENTENCE ABOUT PLANNING-- PLANTING NATIVE VEGETATION ALONG THE BANKS. 
          NO CAPACITY COMMITMENT, NO RATES AND NO DOWNSTREAM ANALYSIS. 
          THE SAME ORDINANCE THAT LOCKS AN 80% OF LOT COVERAGE, NEARLY THE ENTIRE SITE BECOMES ROOFTOP, DRIVEWAY, STREET AND ALLIE. 
          YET ONLY OFFERS 15% COMMON AREA AGAINST A 25% WHICH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES. AND IT ACCOUNTS THE FLOOD PLANE IN TO THE POND ITSELF TOWARDS THAT 15%. 
          SO LESS GROUND TO ABSORB WATER, MORE WATER TO MANAGE, AND A POND THAT THE CITY SAYS IS TOO SMALL. CARMEL IS ALREADY PAYING FOR DRAINAGE DECISIONS MADE DECADES AGO. 
          ON JUNE 3RD DOZENS OF RESIDENTS FILLED THE LIBRARY DESCRIBING YEARS OF FLOODING, AND YOUR COUNCIL PRESIDENT RESPONDED BY PROPOSING A 20 MILLION-DOLLAR REBUILT FUNDED BY RAISING EVERY HOUSEHOLDS STORMWATER FEE. 
          EARLIER THIS YEAR THIS COUNCIL DECLINED TO ANSWER SIMILAR STORMWATER QUESTIONS. THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE. 
          ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS OR ARGUE ABOUT WHO PAYS FOR A DECADE LATER. SO WE ASK THIS TO COMMITTEE WITH YOUR CLEAR DIRECTION. A FULL DRAINAGE REPORT STAMPED AND SIGNED BY A LICENSED INDIANA ENGINEER WHO PUTS HER LICENSE BEHIND IT SHOWING HOW FAST WATER LEAVES THE SITE TODAY AND HOW FAST IT WOULD LEAVE AFTER CONSTRUCTION, AS WELL AS A 100 YEAR STORM. A POND RELOCATED AND RESIZED TO WORK WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY, WITH IT'S 100 YEAR WATER LEVEL AND IT'S DISTANCE FROM THE NEIGHBOURING HOMES STATED ON THE RECORD. THE OVERFLOW PATH MAPPED. 
          THE DISCHARGE TO ELLIOT CREEK ANALYSED, BECAUSE ELLIOT CREEK IS A REGULATED TRAIN UNDER THE HAMILTON COUNTY DRAINAGE BOARD. 
          SO ANY OUTLET REQUIRES A COUNTY PERMIT AND BOARD APPROVAL ON TOP OF CITY REVIEW. OPEN SPACE OF 25 PERCENT, AND A FUNDED PERPETUAL MAINTENANCE FUND. 
          IF 36 HOMES AT 80% COVERAGE CANNOT MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS ON 9 ACRES, THAT THE NUMBER OF HOMES MUST SHRINK. 
          NOT OUR MARGIN OF SAFETY. THE CITY'S OWN ENGINEERS DO NOT BELIEVE THIS PLAN. AND NEITHER SHOULD THE 
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COMMISSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ATEVENING, MY NAME IS HEIDI SCHNEIDER. I LIVE AT 1813 HALIFAX STREET. 
          MY BACKYARD DIRECTLY BORDERS THE PROPOSED HEMPSTEAD DEVELOPMENT SITE, WITH ELLIOT CREEK SEPARATING MY PROPERTY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I KNOW MANY PEOPLE HERE WILL DISCUSS TRAFFIC DENSITY, ZONING AND THE COMPATIBILITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING I EXPERIENCE EVERY SINGLE DAY, THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT THAT EXISTS BEHIND MY HOME. 
          MY FAMILY PURCHASED OUR HOME, AND ONE THING WE LOVED MOST ABOUT THE MATURE WOODED CORRIDOR ALONG ELLIOT CREEK. 
          OVER TIME WE CAME TO APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS NOT SIMPLY VACANT LAND. IT IS A FUNCTIONING NATURAL HABITAT THAT PROVIDES PRIVACY, PROTECTS THE CREEK, AND SUPPORTS A INCREDIBLE VARIETY OF WILDLIFE. 
          WE HAVE WILDLIFE CAMERAS IN OUR BACKYARD. 
          AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE DOCUMENTED DEAR, COYOTES, BEAVERS, RABBITS, DOCKS,% MUSKRATS, RACCOONS, OPOSSUMS. BATS, FISHERS AND MANY OTHER SPECIES MOVING THROUGH THIS CORRIDOR. SEEING THESE ANIMALS HAS GIVEN US A REAL APPRECIATION FOR HOW IMPORTANT THIS WOODED AREA IS AS A WILDLIFE CORRIDOR. I AM ALSO VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ELLIOT CREEK ITSELF. SINCE LIVING HERE WE HAVE OBSERVED HIGH WATER DURING SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS. 
          REPLACING NATURAL GROUND WITH ROADS AND ROOFTOPS AND SIDEWALKS AND DRIVEWAYS CHANGES HOW WATER MOVES ACROSS A LANDSCAPE. 
          BEYOND FLOODING, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE LONG-TERM WATER QUALITY FOR FERTILIZERS, PESTICIDES AND ROAD SALT THAT CAN EVENTUALLY FIND THEIR WAY IN TO THE CREEK AND AFFECT THE WILDLIFE THAT DEPENDS ON IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT CARMEL WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. AND I SUPPORT RESPONSIBLE GROWTH. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PRESERVE THE NATURAL FEATURES THAT MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES SPECIAL WHEREVER THAT IS POSSIBLE. 
          ONCE MATURE TREES ARE REMOVED IN A NATURAL WILDLIFE-- AND A NATURAL WILDLIFE CORRIDOR IS FRAGMENTED, THOSE RESOURCES CANNOT SIMPLY BE REENACTED OR RECREATED. 
          IT TAKES DECADES, GENERATIONS, FOR MATURE WOODLAND AND THE ECOSYSTEM IT SUPPORTS TO RECOVER IF IT TRULY EVER CAN. 
          I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COMMISSION TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHETHER THIS PROPOSAL PROVIDES ADEQUATE PROTECTION FOR ELLIOT CREEK, THE MATURE WOODED CORRIDOR, AND THE WILDLIFE HABITAT THAT EXISTS TODAY. IF THE COMMISSION ULTIMATELY APPROVES THIS DEVELOPMENT, I HOPE MEANINGFUL CONDITIONS ARE INCLUDED TO PRESERVE MATURE TREES WHEREVER POSSIBLE, PROTECT THE CREEK AND MAINTAIN NATURAL BUFFERS BETWEEN THIS DEVELOPMENT AND EXISTING NEIGHBOURHOODS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND FOR CONSIDERING NOT ONLY THE FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND THE FAMILIES WHO ALREADY CALL THIS AREA HOME. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> HELLO. I LIVE AT 13140 BARTON STREET. 
          AND OUR BACKYARD BORDERS THE HEMPSTEAD SITE. 
          TONIGHT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT COMPATIBILITY AT THE EDGES. 
          WE ARE RAISING OUR YOUNG DAUGHTER HERE, AND TODAY WE LOOK OUT ON OPEN SPACE AND A SINGLE HOME. 
          UNDER THIS PLAN, THREE HOMES UP TO 35 FEET TALL WOULD RISE DIRECTLY BEHIND OUR PROPERTY LINE. 
          THIS IS NOT A GRADUAL TRANSITION. 
          IT IS AN ABRUPT EDGE BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT PATTERNS OF DEVELOPMENT. MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS PLAN FAILS WHERE IT MATTERS MOST. WHERE IT MEETS THE HOMES ALREADY THERE. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR DEVELOP AND THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING NEIGHBOURHOODS. 
          —-DASH COMPATIBILITY BEGINS AT THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          ON JULY 19TH, THE PETITIONER'S WRITING THAT NO MINIMUM SETBACK IS REQUIRED, AND THAT ALLEYS AND ACCESS ROADS WOULD BE TWO TO 3 FEET FROM SOME PROPERTY LINES. AND THE NEAREST HOMES ABOUT 10 FEET AWAY. CARMEL'S OWN STANDARDS CALL FOR A MUCH DEEPER BUFFER, IS DEVELOPED INTO INTENSIFIES NEXT TO EXISTING HOMES. WILDEST OF ELEMENT IS LABELLED AS SINGLE-FAMILY, IT HAS THE DENSITY AND INTENSITY OF MULTIFAMILY HOMES. IF TREATED AS MULTIFAMILY, THIS PROJECT WOULD WARRANT A 25-FOOT BUFFER YARD THAT IS LANDSCAPED. 
          THERE IS ALSO NO TRANSITION IN SCALE. 
          THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SETS A TWO AND A HALF STORY MAXIMUM HERE. YET THESE HOMES RISE THREE STORIES TO THE PERIMETER, AND THERE IS LITTLE GREEN SPACE IN THAT TRANSITION. FOR A DEVELOP AND SOLD AS A LIFESTYLE, I DON'T SEE A POOL, A PLAYGROUND OR A CLUBHOUSE. 
          THAT OPEN SPACE BELONGS IN THE PERIMETER WHERE IT BECOMES THE BUFFER. THIS IMPACTS EXISTING HOMES ON THE WEST, SOUTH AND EAST BOUNDARIES. 
          A REAL BUFFER PROTECTS ALL THOSE NEIGHBOURS AND PRESERVES MATURE TREES LIKE THE HALIFAX TREE LINE THAT HAS SCREENED THEM. 
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THESE STANDARDS EXIST TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBOURS WHO ARE ALREADY HERE. FOR MOST FAMILIES, A HOME AS THEIR LARGEST INVESTMENT, AND WE ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THE CONSERVATION OF PROPERTY VALUES. AN ALLEY OR ENTRY A FEW FEET FROM A PROPERTY LINE, OR A HOME ABOVE IT PROTECTS NEITHER PROPERTY VALUES NOR PRIVACY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMENT THAT THE ROOFTOP TERRACES WOULD NOT LOOK OVER THAT PROPERTY. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE WAY THE THREE BEHIND OUR HOMES ARE POSITIONED THEY STILL OVERLOOK OUR PROPERTIES. SO WE ASK YOU PURSE TO DENY THE PETITION AS FILED. IF NOT DENIED, WE WOULD ASK FOR WRITTEN CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, INCLUDING A 25-FOOT BUFFER YARD ALONG THE EDGE OF ALL THE HOMES. WITH MATURE TREES PRESERVED WHERE POSSIBLE. A STEP DOWN TO TWO AND A HALF STORIES AT THE EDGES AND REQUIRED OPEN SPACES AT THE PERIMETER. AND NO ROOFTOP TERRACES ON ANY HOMES THAT BACK ON TO EXISTING YARDS. 
          ON PAPER THIS IS A LINE ON A SITE PLAN FOR OUR FAMILY AND FOR EVERY FAMILY BOARDING THE SITE, THEY CAN STAY THE SAME. 
          I ASK THAT YOU CAN PICK-- PROTECT THE NEIGHBOURS THAT CALL THIS COMMUNITY HOME. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS PERRY MCCARTY. I LIVE ON HAMMER FOURTH STREET. 
          AND REALIZING IT OR NOT, HAVERFORD IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST TURNAROUND FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THE SHORTEST ROUTE POSSIBLE. 
          THEY WILL NOT GO DOWN TO TOWN ROAD WHICH IS ALMOST A MILE AWAY. THEY WILL TAKE HAVERFORD, AND HAVERFORD IS A FRONTAGE ROAD TO MAIN STREET. 
          SO I HAVE SIX GRANDKIDS WHO PLAY THERE ALL OF THE TIME IN MY YARD. AND AN ERRANT SOCCER BALL HIT IN TO THE STREET WITH ALL THESE CARS THAT ARE NOW GOING TO ACCESS HAVERFORD SO THEY CAN MAKE A U-TURN TO GET EASTWARD ON MAIN STREET. THERE IS NO PRACTICAL EXIT FROM THIS NEIGHBOURHOOD TO GO EAST ON TO MAIN STREET. 
          SO THEY ARE FORCED TO GO WEST. AND LIKE IT OR NOT, MOST OF THEM WILL GO ON HAVERFORD. THAT'S THE FIRST RIGHT TURN THEY CAN MAKE. AND THE FIRST U-TURN THAT THEY CAN MAKE. RIGHT NOW I WAIT FOUR OR 5 MINUTES SOMETIMES JUST TO GET UP MAIN STREET GOING EAST. 
          NOW IMAGINE IF WE ARE BACKED UP ON HAVERFORD TO MAKE THAT U-TURN, OR LEFT TURN OURSELVES. IT MAKES IT THAT MUCH MORE HAZARDOUS. SO I WOULD BE AGAINST ALL THIS. 
          AT LEAST, AT A MINIMUM, WE PUT IN A ROUNDABOUT ACROSS FROM THIS NEIGHBOURHOOD TO ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JULIE. 
          AND I HAVE LIVED IN THE DUMBARTON SECTION OF THE VILLAGE WEST KELLY FOR OVER 20 YEARS. TONIGHT I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE INTENSITY AND DENSITY OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. 
          FIRST I OWE YOU ALL AN APOLOGY. I NEED TO CORRECT SOMETHING I WROTE IN MY ORIGINAL LETTER TO THE COMMISSION. 
          WHEN I INITIALLY REVIEWED THE SITE PLAN, MY OLD EYES THOUGHT THAT ALL OF THESE WERE ATTACHED TOWNHOMES. 
          UPON FURTHER REVIEW, I NOTICED THERE IS A SLIGHT SPACE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. SO THEY ARE DETACHED HOMES. 
          I WANTED TO CORRECT THAT FOR THE RECORD. 
          BUT THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE BEFORE US TODAY. WHAT IS PROPOSED IS CURRENTLY ZONED S-1. WHICH IS INTENDED FOR LOW-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONING. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF WE FOLLOW THE S-1 ZONING LAWS, THAT THAT WOULD ONLY SUPPORT SEVEN TO NINE HOMES. AND THAT ESTIMATE IS ON THE GENEROUS SIDE, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT LOOKING AT THE NET DEVELOPABLE ACREAGE IN THAT AREA. 
          THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT CAN TRULY BE DEVELOPED IS SMALLER, WHICH MAKES THE PROPOSED DENSITY A GREATER DEPARTURE FROM THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT WAS INTENDED. 
          THIS IS NOT A MINOR INCREASE IN DENSITY. 
          IT IS A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN BOTH DENSITY AND INTENSITY. 
          THEY MENTIONED THAT THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT IS IN THE AREA. THAT IS 100% NOT TRUE. 
          ALL OF THE HOMES IN THIS AREA ARE ON HALF-ACRE OR MORE LOTS. 
          SO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT ATTEMPT-- IT'S BEEN PRESENTED AS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. AND A PUD IS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE SOMETHING EXCEPTIONAL, SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          A CREATIVE DESIGN. MEANINGFUL OPEN SPACE. 
          UNIQUE AMENITIES. A PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT JUSTIFIES 
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THE FLEXIBLE UNDERLYING ZONING. BUT I DO NOT SEE THAT HERE. 
          THIS APPEARS TO BE STRAIGHTFORWARD RESIDENTIAL DENSITY THAN THE S-1 WAS INTENDED TO PERMIT. 
          CARMEL HAS EARNED IT'S REPUTATION BECAUSE OF IT'S EXPECTATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT AND EXISTING NEIGHBOURHOODS. 
          AND THEY FOLLOW THOUGHTFUL PLANNING BY-- I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE COMMISSION DO THE SAME HERE TODAY AND DENY THE PROPOSAL AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MY NAME IS KAREN. 
          I LIVE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. 
          MY LETTER TALKS ABOUT THIS PROPOSED PLAN WHICH TURNS MY HOME IN TO A TRAFFIC ISLAND. WE HAVE A ROAD RIGHT NEXT TO IT. 
          A MAIN STREET, A ROAD AND AN ALLEYWAY. 
          IT WOULD SURROUND MY TREES IN MY BACKYARD. 
          I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE HEMPSTEAD P.E.D.-- PUD AS FILED AND OFFER A CONSTRUCTIVE ALTERNATIVE. CARMEL INDIANA, ONE OF THE BEST PLACES TO LIVE IN AMERICA, WHICH FOR 30 YEARS HAS PROUDLY HELD THE TREE CUSA DESIGNATION, WHICH SHOULD ONE BROUGHT TO THIS ATTENTION, HELPED IT'S RESIDENTS MITIGATE THE REMOVAL OF THE SITES MATURE PERIMETER TREES. A WILDLIFE HABITAT AND A NATURAL BUFFER YARD TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. THE ROW OF 50-FOOT EASTERN PINES SITUATED JUST ACROSS THE NORTHERN BORDER OF MY PROPERTY, THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF THE BELLY OF THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN THERE FOR DECADES. IT'S HOME TO DEER AND FOX. 
          PIVOTING TO THE REASON THAT THE HEMPSTEAD CALLS FOR THE REMOVAL OF THESE AMAZING PERIMETER TREES, THE EXTREME AMOUNT OF CONCRETE TO SUPPLY THEIR DESIRED DENSITY. 
          THIS PUD STRAIGHT SO FAR AWAY FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT MINOR CHANGES TO THE PLAN WILL NOT SOLVE IT. 
          SO IMAGINE A COMPLETE REDESIGN IN FAVOUR OF THE SITE'S TOPOGRAPHY AND NEIGHBOURING RESIDENTS. 
          FIRST, A ROUNDABOUT AT MAIN STREET AND DON BARTON IS% LONG OVERDUE, BUT IT ONLY SOMEWHAT ADDRESSES THE TRAFFIC FLAWS IN THE AREA. THEREFORE REDUCE THE DENSITY SIGNIFICANTLY THAT CAN BE SUPPORTED BY SINGLE ACCESS POINT BISHOPS WAY. WHICH IS AT THE WEST. 
          LOCATED AS FAR AS POSSIBLE FROM THE DON GARDEN STREET. 
          INTERSECTING WITH MORE SAFELY METERED MAIN STREET TRAFFIC. 
          UTILIZE ESSENTIAL 30-FOOT ROADWAY LEADING TO A 100-FOOT DIAMETER CUL-DE-SAC THAT COMFORTABLY COMPLIES WITH MUNICIPAL FIRE TRUCK TURNAROUND TEAMS. FACE THE REARS OF ALL THE INSTRUCTORS, INCLUDING THE DRIVEWAYS AND GARAGES, INWARD TOWARDS THE CENTRAL ROAD, ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR THE SPRAWLING ALLEYWAYS. 
          FACE THE ARCHITECTURAL FRONTS OF THE HOMES OUTWARD TOWARDS THE WETLANDS AND ELLIOTT CREAKED. CONNECT IT BY WALKING PATHS AND PEDESTRIAN ONLY GREEN SPACE. BRING UP THE SPATIAL FOOTPRINT TO ALLOW FOR THE STORM WATER DETENTION-- RETENTION POND TO BE MOVED TO THE LOWEST POINT, THE SOUTHWEST SIDE AT THE 1880 MAIN STREET PARCEL. DOUBLE IT'S SIZE TO MITIGATE FLOODING. SET STRUCTURES DOWN TO TWO STORIES. MATCHING THE INTENSITY OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBOURHOOD. HIRED YOU TO RECOMMEND RESPONSIBLE PEDESTRIAN CENTRIC SITE DESIGN BY STRICTLY IMPORTANT-- AND FORCING CARMEL'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU KEEP THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBOURHOOD AND PROVIDE THE PROTECTIONS THAT MY PRIVATE PROPERTY DESERVES. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MY NAME IS AMY DAVIS, I LIVE AT HALIFAX STREET AT WHITE PROPERTIES, ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED HEMPSTEAD DEVELOPMENT. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S CONCERNS. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS AND WE ARE OFTEN WALKING AROUND THE NEIGHBOURHOOD, AROUND MAIN STREET, LOOKING AT THE GOATS NEARBY WITH OUR NEIGHBOUR. THANK YOU FOR HAVING THOSE GOATS NEARBY. ONE THING I WANTED TO PUT INTO PERSPECTIVE WAS THE VERY DENSE PART THEY ARE PROPOSING TO THE NEIGHBOURHOOD ENTRANCES, GOING EAST TO WEST WE HAVE DON BARTON, AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE DRIVEWAYS AND HAVERFORD. 
          SO IT'S GOING TO GO ENTRANCE ON DON BARTON, INTEREST TO THE NEW NEIGHBOURHOOD, THREE DRIVEWAYS AND ANOTHER ENTRANCE TO 
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HEMPSTEAD AND HAVERFORD. THAT IS ALL WITHIN LESS THAN .2 MILES. THAT IS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF LAND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE ENTRANCES. 
          WE ASKED IN THE MEETING A FEW WEEKS AGO IF THERE WAS A TRAFFICKING STUDY. THERE HAD NOT BEEN ONE DONE. 
          THEY SAID IT WAS NOT THE RIGHT PROCESS. 
          WE WOULD URGE THAT TO BE DONE. AND WE ALSO WROTE A LETTER IN CONJUNCTION WITH A FEW OF MY NEIGHBOURS THAT OUTLINES THE POINTS. BUT THANK YOU FOR LETTING US HAVE OUR COMMENTS HERE. AND WE DEFINITELY BELIEVE THIS PROPOSAL NEEDS TO BE AMENDED AT MINIMUM. 
          WE ARE FOR RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT, BUT DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS MEETS RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WE HAVE ONE LAST ONE. >> HELLO. 
          MY NAME IS JENNIFER HELLMAN. I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE VILLAGE PLACE ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS AND THE BOARD. 
          FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND WE APPRECIATE THE TIME TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY IT WAS A MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY STARTED BY TOM HOUSTON AND GEORGE SUITE 25 YEARS AGO, AND IS STILL THRIVING TODAY. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE RECEIVED MORE THAN 25 LETTERS OF CONCERN IN THE REPORT. 
          AND HAVE HEARD OF ALL THE HARD WORK THE RESIDENTS DEAD IN THEIR RESEARCH WTH THE CONCERNS ON DENSITY, LACK OF OPEN SPACES. 
          THAT 25% COMMON AREA. LIMITED BUFFERING WITH THE ENCROACHMENT OF THE PRIVACY OF RESIDENTS. 
          LACK OF PRESERVATION OF WETLANDS, TREES, AND PROPER DRAINAGE CONTROL, INCLUDING AN INCORRECT POND, SIZE AND LOCATION. WE ALSO HAVE SAFETY CONCERNS REGARDING THE INCREASED TRAFFIC. CAN I GET THE CAMERA? THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SHOW SOME IMAGES OF WHAT IS IN THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THE DENSITY. THE OPEN SPACES. 
          THERE ARE 170 ACRES OF COMMON AREA AND OPEN SPACE IN THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY, INCLUDING 45 PARK AREAS. 
          25 PONDS. THREE POOLS AND CLUB HOUSES. 
          TEN PLAYGROUNDS, AND MILES OF TRAILS. 
          THERE ARE 18 SHELTERS ON PERGOLAS, 12 FOUNTAINS AND THE FOCAL POINT MEETINGHOUSE. THE ARCHITECTURE IN THE VILLAGE OF CLAY IS NOT MODERN. IT IS BASED ON HISTORIC LEASING HOMES IN INDIANA FROM THE LATE 1800S TO PRE1940. 
          THIS INCLUDES ITALIAN RENAISSANCE, VICTORIANS, AND NEOCLASSICAL. AS MANY RESIDENTS HAVE SAID, WE DO NOT DISAGREE THAT QUALITY DEVELOPMENT IS SOMETHING THAT WE APPRECIATE IN CARMEL. BUT WE ASK THAT THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION REQUIRES THE DEVELOPMENT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOURHOOD. WE KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBOURHOOD WITH FEWER HOMES, LARGER LOTS AND SIMILAR CHARACTER CAN STILL EXIST WITH THE SAME PROFIT. AND AS WE ARE LIMITED ON TIME, I WOULD ASK THAT ANYONE WHO DID NOT GET TO SPEAK TODAY BUT IS HERE FROM THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY AND WHO HAS A CONCERN, TO CHEAT-- PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PETITIONER-- WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND? OFFER REBUTTAL COMMENTS? 
          >> AS I INDICATED AFTER THIS EVENING'S MEETING, WE WILL TAKE THE COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC THIS EVENING, AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS, AND RETURN ON SEPTEMBER 5TH WITH ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PLAN AND ADDRESSING THOSE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS. THERE WILL-- WERE SEVERAL COMMENTS PERTAINING TO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. 
          AT THIS PHASE OF THE PROCESS, THE PUBLIC MAYBE UNFAMILIAR WITH IT, THE ZONING PHASE OF THE PROCESS, THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER CONFIRM THIS EVENING THE SUBDIVISION PLAN, AND THAT'S WHEN DRAINAGE AND DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS AND OTHER ITEMS ARE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          PROVIDED THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE THE ZONING FOR ANY REQUEST ON THIS REAL ESTATE, WE WOULD BE BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AFTER AND ADVERTISE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WOULD BE SENT OUT TO NEIGHBOURS WITH SPECIFIC INFORMATION REGARDING DRAINAGE. ALTERS REQUIREMENTS FROM THE SURVEYORS OFFICE WILL FOLLOW THE PREPARATION OF THOSE PLANS AND THEY WILL BE BILLED FOR REVIEW. THOSE ARE STANDARDS APPLICABLE TO ALL DEVELOPMENT OF THE REAL ESTATE, REGARDLESS OF THE STYLE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED ON THAT PARCEL OF REAL ESTATE. SO I WANT THE PUBLIC TO REST ASSURED THAT ANY DEPARTMENT ON THE FUTURE OF THIS REAL ESTATE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME RIGID REVIEW PROCESS REGARDING STORMWATER MANAGEMENT RETENTION THAT EVERY OTHER 
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DEVELOP IT IN THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH. 
          ONE OTHER COMMENT WAS MADE REGARDING PROXIMITY TO THE DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN CHECKS BUT IS-- EXPOSITION WITH THE AERIAL. THERE ARE TWO HOMES WITHIN THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY THAT ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS REAL ESTATE. THE OTHER HOMES WITHIN THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY ARE SEPARATED BY PROJECT OPEN SPACE ALONG THE REAR OF THE LOTS HERE ALONG-- ALONG DON BARTON AND THE SOUTH. OF THE LOTS THAT ARE HERE, AND THIS POND, THE AMENITY FACILITY AND OTHER OPEN SPACES BETWEEN THE SITE, AND OTHER LOTS WITHIN THAT, THAT OFFERS 150 FEET AND 300 FEET OF SEPARATION BETWEEN THE PROPOSED HOMES AND THE LOCATION OF THE HOMES ON ADJACENT PARCELS. 
          WE WILL BRING AN EXHIBIT TO COMMITTEE THAT ILLUSTRATES THAT AND PROVIDE SOME SPECIFIC DIMENSION SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN SEE THAT. I MENTION THAT BECAUSE THOSE SEPARATIONS DON'T REALLY AFFORD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PRIVACY TO BE FINISHED WITH A HOME OF THIS SAME SIZE. 
          REGARDING HEIGHT OF THE ADJACENT HOMES, I WILL GO INTO THAT IN MORE DETAIL AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL. 
          BE A PROPOSED FALL CUT ON TOLD- MAIN STREET FOR THIS LOCATION OF THE ACCESS IN TO THE SITE RIGHT HERE. 
          DON BARTON IS OVER HERE TO THE EAST. 
          THAT RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT CUT ON TO MAIN STREET AND A FULL ACCESS POINT HERE. THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMENTS OFFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT THE DATE FOR A TURNAROUND. 
          ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO TAKE IT GOING EAST ON MAIN STREET WOULD EXIT OUT OF THE NEIGHBOURHOOD AT THIS LOCATION AND BE AFFORDED A FULL ACCESS POINT SO YOU CAN TURN LEFT. 
          THEY, AS WELL AS OTHER RESIDENTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR ONCOMING TRAFFIC OF COURSE TO EXIT OUT AND TURN LEFT. BUT THERE WOULD NOT BE THE NEED FOR ANY TYPE OF TURNAROUND MOVEMENT FOR TRAFFIC BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE A FULL ACCESS DRIVEWAY CUT FOR THE STREET INTO THE SITE AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. 
          REGARDING DENSITY WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY IS A VERY UNIQUE NEIGHBOURHOOD. AND IT INCLUDES AREAS OF DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE HARRYING FROM COMMERCIAL TO MULTIFAMILY TO TOWNHOMES TO SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS THAT ARE AS SMALL AS 3000 SQUARE-FOOT ON 30-- 30-FOOT WIDE LOTS. 
          THAT EXISTS IN THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY TODAY AND THE SIZE OF THOSE LOTS, WE DON'T BELIEVE AFFECTS THE ADJACENT MUCH LARGER HOMES IN TERMS OF PROPERTY VALUES AT THAT PARCEL REAL ESTATE. BETSY CONNECTION WE ARE MAKING IN REGARDS TO DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. 
          IT IS CLEAR THAT WHILE I WOULD QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THE ADJACENT LOTS TO THIS SITE ARE A HALF ACRE IN SIZE, THEY ARE TYPICALLY ABOUT 15,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          THESE LOTS WHICH WERE PROPOSED FOR LIST OF ELEMENT ARE SMALLER LOTS. SMALLER LOTS ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF PROPERTY VALUES. THERE ARE LOTS OF NEIGHBOURHOODS WITHIN THE CARMEL COMMUNITY WHERE THERE ARE EDGES-- ADJACENT NEIGHBOURHOODS THAT EXIST. MANY AREAS OF THE VILLAGE OF ADJACENT EXISTING STATE LOTS. THOSE EXISTING LOTS HAVE LARGE HOMES ON THEM WITH FIVE, TEN, 1. WHERE ALLEYS WERE DEVELOPED. 
          AND THOSE ALLEYS HAVE THE SAME PROXIMITY TO THE PROPERTY LINE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED WITHIN HEMPSTEAD. 
          ALDO NOT ADJACENT TO THE COMMON AREAS, THEY WERE ADJACENT TO OTHER ADDITIONAL PROPERTY AREAS. WE WILL BRING SOME EXAMPLES TO COMMITTEE TO SHARE REGARDING THAT ISSUE OF PROXIMITY IN THE ALLEY SPACES. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO TOUCH ON, AND THERE ARE MANY COMMENTS AND CONCERNS THAT WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION, THE PARK SPACES THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT, THAT BEING HERE AND HERE ON THE PLAN, THE IMAGE I PUT UP ON SCREEN, THESE ARE SPACES ADDED BETWEEN OUR LAST NEIGHBOURHOOD MEETING THAT WE DID A BETTER JOB OF COMMUNICATING THE ESSENCE OF BECAUSE WE RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT OPEN SPACE AND WE WANTED TO BE CLEAR WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT THE INTENT THAT CHRISTOPHER SCOTT HOMES HAS WITH REGARDS TO OPEN SPACES. AGAIN, RECEPTIVE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S COMMENTS, AS WELL AS THE PUBLICS AND WE WILL WORK DILIGENTLY BEFORE RETURNING ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALTERNATE TO LEXI FOR THE DEPARTMENT STAFF COMMENTS. THANK YOU. 
          FOR THE RECORD, ALEXIA LOPEZ WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. REAL QUICK I WANTED TO GO WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR ANY OF YOU WHO ARE FAMILIAR. 
          SO THIS IS A REZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. 
          WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS WE HAVE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HERE IS A PROPOSAL, AS WELL AS ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. ONCE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SUBSEQUENT THERE ARE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AFTER THIS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN VOTE TO SEND IT 
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WITH FAVOURABLE RECOMMENDATION AND UNFAVOURABLE RECOMMENDATION OR NO RECOMMENDATION. AND IF THE REZONED CAN BE HEARD BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND IT'S APPROVED, THE DEVELOPER WOULD COME BACK FOR A PRIMARY PLAN OF APPROVAL TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE PUD. MOVING ON, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO LOOKED AT WITH ANY REZONE IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE CITY. SOME OF THE POLICIES AND GOALS IN THE PLAN CALL FOR THINGS LIKE THE VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES. 
          MIXTURE OF LAND USES, ALSO SAFE WALKING AND BIKING. 
          PRESERVATION OF MATURE TREES AND GREEN BUILDING PRACTICES. 
          IT GUIDES DEVELOPMENT TO PROTECT SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBOURHOODS FROM DISSIMILAR ADJACENT USES WITH RESPECT TO SCALABILITY, LIGHTING, NOISE AND OTHER INCOMPATIBLE IMPACTS. 
          UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN SECTION OF THE COMP PLAN, THIS AREA IS BY WEST NEIGHBOURHOODS WHICH ARE TYPICALLY SUBURBAN LIVING STYLE-- SUBURBAN STYLE LIVING ON LARGE LOTS. 
          CHARACTERISTICS MAY INCLUDE LOTS FROM 18 TO FIVE PLUS ACRES. 
          BUILDING COVERAGE FROM 25% TO 50%. 
          TWO —-DASH STORIES. FRONT YARDS, GARDENS, PORCHES, STOOPS. AND SOME RESIDENTIAL, EDUCATIONAL AND PARK USES. I DON'T WANT TO REITERATE TOO MUCH OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT YOU'VE HEARD. 
          THEY ARE PROPOSING A MAXIMUM 36 DWELLINGS. 
          TWO ACCESS POINTS PROVIDED. WHICH IS THE MINIMUM THAT WE REQUIRE. WITH THE 14 OR 15 LOTS YOU NEED TO HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS. HOMES WILL FRONT ON THE INTERIOR STREETS WITH ALLEYS FROM BEHIND FOR GARAGE ACCESS, WHICH CREATES A NICE LOOK THERE. SIDEWALKS AND STREET TREES ARE PROPOSED ON BOTH SIDES OF MOST RATES. 
          THE INTERNAL STREETS WILL BE PUBLIC. 
          BILL TO CITY STANDARDS. THEY ARE PROPOSING 50% COMMON AREA. STORMWATER DRAINAGE IS PROPOSED TO BE CULMINATING A LOT-- ALONG THE MAIN ENTRANCE. 
          AND THEY ARE PROPOSING 10-FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACKS, 5-FOOT AND ZERO ON ONE SITE. 20-FOOT AND 15 FEET FOR REAR YARDS. AND IF THERE-- IF THERE IS A THREE-CAR GARAGE AND A PERCENT LOT COVERAGE IS PROPOSED. 
          THE CHARACTER IMAGERY SHOWS A MODERN STYLE OF ARCHITECTURE WITH FLAT ROOFS. HEAVY MASONRY ON THE FRONT AND ATTRACTIVE STREETSCAPES WITH GARAGE IS LOCATED IN THE BACK. 
          ALL HOMES FOR THE PUD WILL HAVE 80% ON THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOORS ON THE FRONT SIDE. A MIX OF COLOURS WILL BE USED ACROSS THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THERE IS NOT AN 80 LS APPROVAL REQUIRED FOR THE PSALMS. SO WILL SEE THAT WITH PUD'S WERE USUALLY WHEN THEY ARE ATTACHED. WITH SINGLE-FAMILY WE DON'T USUALLY REVIEW THE 80 LS FOR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBOURHOOD. 
          TEN TREES WILL BE REQUIRED FOR COMMON AREA, AND TWO TREES AND FOUNDATION PLANTINGS ARE REQUIRED FOR DWELLINGS IN THE FRONT YARD. WE HAVE RECEIVED 54 LETTERS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND WE FORWARDED ALL OF THOSE FOR REVIEW. WE HEARD A LOT OF THOSE INCURRING COMMENTS THIS EVENING REGARDING CHARACTER, DISRUPTION, DENSITY, WATER DRAINAGE, LACK OF BUFFERING. 
          WE ALSO HAVE OUTSTANDING COMMENTS IN THE DEPARTMENT REPORT. THOSE WERE NOT ALL OF OUR COMMENTS. I DIDN'T WANT TO LIST EVERYTHING. BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME WORK DONE ON THE REQUIRED SIDEWALKS. 
          INCREASING THE OPEN SPACE TO 25% WHICH IS REQUIRED ON DO YOU DO. 
          REVISING THE POND LOCATION AND ADDRESSING THE SIZING CONCERNS. 
          SHIFTING THE ENTRANCE STREETS SO THEY ARE NOT AS CLOSE TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY LINES. WE HAVE SEVERAL ARCHITECTURE COMMENTS. I THINK THEY KIND OF ADDRESS THE OUTDOOR LIVING SPACE ON THE ROOFTOP. 
          SO THERE WILL BE SOME BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL BE ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. WHICH WILL BACKUP TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK MORE ABOUT WHAT THE INTERIOR SIDE ELEVATIONS LOOK LIKE OF THOSE BUILDINGS. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE OPEN-SPACE CONCEPT PLAN WOULD LOOK LIKE NOW TO SEE HOW THEY ARE MEETING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. 
          ADDING AMENITIES TO THE NEIGHBOURHOOD. 
          AND LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, UPDATING THE PLAN TO ENSURE WE ARE REFLECTING IT CORRECTLY AWFUL WHERE THE SIDEWALK WILL BE VERSES WHERE THE STREET TREES ARE. 
          AND ADJUSTING TREE PRESERVATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO THERE ARE ITEMS TO WORK THROUGH AND DISCUSS. 
          WE DID RECOMMEND THAT THIS BE CONTINUED, FORWARDED TO THE 
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 1ST. 
          INSTEAD IT WOULD NORMALLY GO IN AUGUST. 
          BUT THAT WOULD MEAN THE-- THAT WOULD BE ON FRIDAY AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING. SO WE RECOMMEND YOU FORWARDED TO THE SEPTEMBER 1ST COMMITTEE MEETING. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          BEFORE HE OPENED IT UP TO QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, TO CONTINUE ON YOUR PROCESS, EXPLANATION. 
          THIS IS A LAND-USE BODY AND WHEN THESE RESULTS COME THROUGH WE HAVE-- OUR JOB IS TWO FULL. ONE WE SIGNED A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE PROJECT IF IT'S FAVOURABLE OR UNFAVOURABLE. WE LIKE TO SEND IN WITH A RECOMMENDATION. BUT WE ALSO TRIED TO MAKE THE PROJECT AS GOOD AS IT POSSIBLY CAN BE BEFORE WE SEND IT ON TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY THERE GOING TO VOTE. JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS SLATED TO GO TO COMMITTEE AND THAT'S PART OF OUR TYPICAL PROCESS. WITH THAT SORT OF BIG PICTURE I WILL OPEN IN TO QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM EVERYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST. SUE? 
          >> I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START HERE. 
          EXCEPT THAT I AM VERY SURPRISED THAT IT HAS MADE IT THIS FAR WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT STILL NEED TO BE DISCUSSED. 
          AND REVIEWED. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING LEXI SAID. I DO WANT TO SEE A TRAFFIC STUDY. PERIOD. 
          THERE IS JUST TOO MUCH CONCERN. THERE IS AN IN AND OUT ON THE WESTERN END. THAT'S NEW TO PEOPLE. 
          LET'S GET AN OFFICIAL STANDING ON TRAFFIC, AND I WANT TO SEE A DETAILED STREETSCAPE TO SEE HOW THE ROADS ARE, THE SIDEWALKS, THE TREES. I ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHAT TREES YOU ARE GOING TO BE REMOVING, ESPECIALLY ALONG ELLIOTT CREEK AND ALONG THE NEIGHBOURS. BECAUSE THERE ARE INCREDIBLE TREES THERE. AND I KNOW THAT SOMETHING HAS TO 
          COME DOWN. >> CERTAINLY PUBLIC SAFETY APPROVAL, BUT IF THERE IS A TWO WAY IN AND OUT, I THINK YOU CAN GET THAT. I WILL LET OTHER PEOPLE TALK. 
          >> COUNCILLOR HEIRS. >> I HEAR EVERYTHING YOU SAID AND I AM CONCERNED WITH THE LIGHTING AND NOISE FOR THESE NEIGHBOURS. TRAFFIC LIGHTING AND NOISES A 
          HUGE CONCERN VOLVO ME. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> GO-AHEAD. DUBBIE. 
          >> ALL PREFACE MY REMARKS BY SAYING THE DESIGN IS BEAUTIFUL. 
          BUT NOT IN THIS LOCATION. [APPLAUSE] 
          >> THIS IS A BUSINESS MEETING. YOU DON'T HAVE TO APPLAUSE. 
          BUT I REALLY DO MEAN THAT. IT'S A GORGEOUS LOOKING PROPERTY. IT'S JUST LIKE YOU ARE TAKING A GRID AND PLACING IT IN A CURVED AREA. 
          IT LOOKS OUT OF PLACE TO ME. I DO HAVE SOME HOMEWORK, WHICH I WILL NOT READ. BUT I DID CONTACT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. 
          AND I ASKED FOR INFORMATION ON-SITE. 
          I LEARNED THAT ALL THE REALTORS THAT SELL IN THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY HAVE A WAITING LIST FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUY EXISTING PROPERTIES AND THERE. AVERAGE HOMESTAY ON THE MARKET ABOUT FOUR DAYS, AND MOST CELL FOR THE ASKING PRICE. 
          AND I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE ELEVATED. 
          WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE MOST DESIRABLE PLACES TO LIVE IN CARMEL. IN ADDITION TO AT THE TIME BEFORE THIS MEETING I READ 44 LETTERS. 
          SO I HAVE A FEW MORE TO READ. I ALSO LEARNED THAT A 25 YEAR HISTORY HAS BEEN WRITTEN OF THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY. 
          AND I READ A 23 PAGE SUMMARY OF THAT. 
          AND I ASKED FOR THAT AND IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE I THINK THESE DECISIONS-- YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT? THANK YOU. I THINK THESE DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED AND WHAT THE CONTINUING VISION IS. AND LOTS IS WRITTEN IN THE HISTORY ABOUT WHAT THE VISION WAS FOR THE NEIGHBOURHOOD. 
          INCLUDING THE STYLE OF ARCHITECTURE AND THE FLOW OF THE COMMUNITY. WHICH I WILL NOT READ THROUGH ALL OF THAT. ONE OF THE KEYS-- THAT WAS AN UNINCORPORATED AREA WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED, BY THE WAY. 
          AND AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE, WHEN IT WAS FIRST DEVELOPED, NO ONE 
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FROM THE PUBLIC WAS IN FAVOUR OF IT. 
          BUT AFTER MUCH WORK AND COMING UP WITH A DESIGN THAT WAS PLEASING TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEARBY, THE TABLES TURNED AND THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE SHOWING UP IN FAVOUR OF THE PROJECT THEN AGAINST IT. AND IT HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITHOUT THE DESIGN LAYOUT AND ARCHITECTURE THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER. THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HOA SAID THAT THEY HAD PRESENTED IDEAS WITH DIFFERENT DENSITY AND DESIGN THAT WOULD GENERATE THE SAME OR MORE FOR THAT SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY. I HAVE TO READ MY OWN WRITING. 
          SO I APOLOGIZE. IF THEY COME TO A DESIGN THAT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBOURHOODS, THEY WOULD WELCOME ADDING IT TO THE EXISTING VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY PUD AND THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. 
          THE ULTRAMODERN DESIGN IS VERY STRIKING. 
          I THINK IT WILL LOOK BEAUTIFUL SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PLACES I CAN THINK UP IN CARMEL WHERE WOULD BE A PERFECT PLACE TO PUT THAT DESIGN. 
          THEN I THINK THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBOURHOOD SHOULD BE TAKEN IN TO CONSIDERATION. AS IT IS PRESENTED NOW I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOUR OF THE WAY IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED AND I WOULD HOPE HE WOULD GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. 
          AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED. BECAUSE THEY ARE WORTH THE 
          CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> I AM JUST CURIOUS, AFTER THE NEIGHBOURHOOD MEETING, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY CHANGES, OR ARE THERE PLAN CHANGES TO THE OVERALL PLAN? 
          >> OUR PLAN WAS TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO WE WOULD HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, THE STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO TAKE IN TO CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND PLAN MODIFICATIONS. WHILE IT IS NOT CUSTOMARY, BUT IN THIS CASE WE RECEIVED FINAL COMMENTS FROM PLANNING STAFF TWO DAYS BEFORE OUR BROCHURES WERE DUE AND AFTER OUR NOTICE WAS MAILED REGARDING THE NEIGHBOURHOOD MEETING. 
          TYPICALLY THAT IS RECEIVED A LITTLE EARLIER. 
          AND IF WE HAD HAD THOSE COMMENTS EARLIER, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATION WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE, BUT WE WOULD SOLICIT FEEDBACK FROM EVERYONE FIRST. 
          SO WE START AND KICK UP THE PROCESS AND COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT SATISFY TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE BY THE APPLICANT YOUR COMMENTS AND CONCERNS. 
          THIS IS HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. AND WE ARE PREPARED TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND ADDRESS AS MANY OF THE COMMENTS AS WE CAN TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          >> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY ROUNDABOUTS PLANNED AT ALL IN THAT AREA NOW? NO? 
          >> NOT THAT I KNOW OF. >> I THINK I SHARE THE SENTIMENT THAT IT'S QUESTIONABLE AT THE SITE. 
          BUT CERTAINLY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 
          ANYBODY ELSE, ADAM? >> I WILL BE QUICK. 
          I ECHO WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID. 
          I WOULD SAY AT THIS POINT I AM LUKEWARM ON THIS CONCEPT. 
          THE ONE THING THAT STOOD OUT TO ME LOOKING THROUGH THE PLAN WAS HOW WILL PEOPLE PARK IN THIS AREA. 
          IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE SOME SORT OF OUTLINE OF WHAT PARKING COULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE NEIGHBOURHOOD IN ADDITION TO THE TRAFFIC SITE. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> JEFF? 
          >> I THINK I HAVE TAKEN SOME NOTES. 
          I'VE HEARD A LOT STATED. I WON'T BE REPETITIVE. 
          BIG PICTURE, I THINK YEARS AGO WHEN THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY CAME TO THIS AREA AND IT WAS SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS THERE, CERTAINLY IT'S A DENSE AREA. 
          ADJACENT TO THE DON BARTON NEIGHBOURHOOD, IT'S A DIFFERENT FEEL. I GUESS I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON DENSITY AND MENTIONING THE NEIGHBOURHOODS TOGETHER, IF WE ASSUME FOR A MOMENT THAT THIS GOES FORWARD. 
          IF IT DOES NOT, IT DOES NOT. FROM A DENSITY THAT CREATES TROPIC STANDPOINT, I AM LESS CONCERNED THAN MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, BUT MAYBE WE CAN EXPLORE THAT. 
          BUT WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF DRAINAGE. 
          I KNOW THAT HAS BEEN A HOT TOPIC. 
          WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EXPLORE THAT GOING FORWARD. 
          ONE THING WORTH MENTIONING IS I DID HEAR FROM ENGINEERING. 
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CERTAINLY IT IS NOT PROGRAMMED OR FUNDED, BUT I THINK THERE ARE OTHER ROUNDABOUTS PLANNED ON MAIN STREET, MAYBE DON BARTON AND TREATY LINE IF I RAMBLE RIGHT. 
          BUT DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT. BUT COUNCIL WILL FUND-- MAYBE COUNCIL WILL FUND PROJECTS LIKE THAT ONE DAY, MAYBE THEY WILL NOT. WE WON'T PUT ALL OUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET ON THAT FRONT. I GUESS I HAVE MENTIONED A FEW BIG PICTURE THINGS. BUT TO ADD TO THIS POINT, IF THIS STEP FORWARD-- A FEW THINGS, THE BUILDING SEEM CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER. WHETHER THAT IS 36 OR 33 OR 39 OR 27. RESIDENCES. 
          JUST LOOKING AT WHETHER THERE ARE WAYS TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE SITE AMENITIES, PARKS, WAYS TO RECONFIGURE THINGS, AS YOU TRY TO PUSH THIS FORWARD, JOHN. THE RENDERINGS YOU PROVIDED CERTAINLY LOOK LIKE A GREAT PRODUCT. 
          THE PRICE POINT IS HIGH. SO I AM SURE THAT THEY WOULD BE NICE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. I'M NOT SAYING THE FOLKS THAT LIVE NEAR THEIR HAVE TO LIKE THEM, BUT THEY LOOK NICE, AS YOU MENTIONED. MAYBE TWO ATOMS POINT, YOU ARE DOWN IN THE WEEDS. BUT THE ROUNDABOUTS THAT ARE INTERNAL TO THE NEIGHBOURHOOD, IF YOU COULD BRING INFORMATION THAT SHOWS THAT THE MOVING TRUCK IS DELIVERING A NEW RESIDENT% THERE, LET'S GET THEM IN AND OUT. 
          AND THE DRIVEWAYS THAT APPROACH THE GARAGES, DOES A CAR FOR BETWEEN A THIRD CAR GARAGE IN THE STREET? YOU CAN TELL ME NOW OR SHOW US LATER. 
          IT'S JUST SOMETHING I NOTICED. LET'S SEE...  I GUESS THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE 
          FROM YOU, JOHN. >> I WILL ADD MY COMMENTS, WHICH ARE SOMEWHAT REPETITIVE. AS FAR AS THE DENSITY, THIS DOES NOT FIT WITHIN THIS AREA. THIS DENSITY LEVEL IS MORE TYPICAL OF WHAT WE WOULD SEE IN OUR URBAN CORE IN THE DOWNTOWN CARMEL. AND MAYBE OUR FOUR, ARE FIVE. 
          NOT S1. IT'S NOT JUST THE DENSITY, GENERALLY SPEAKING, ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE HAVE NOT BEEN HUGE SUPPORTERS OF PLANS THAT TRY TO FIT THE MOST AMOUNT OF UNITS ON A PARCEL AS POSSIBLE. 
          ONE NICE THING ABOUT CARMEL, AS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU DO A LOT OF THESE PETITIONS, OUR NEIGHBOURHOODS INCORPORATE GREEN SPACE, THEY HAVE TREE PRESERVATION AREAS. 
          IF THERE IS WETLANDS, WE PROTECT THEM. 
          SO I JUST REALLY THINK MORE THOUGHT TO PLANNING THE NEIGHBOURHOOD NEEDS TO BE GIVEN. TO HAVE TREE PRESERVATION, THE 25% OPEN SPACE, IN MY MIND, THAT IS THE MINIMUM. 
          IF THERE ARE BEAUTIFUL TREES, LET'S PRESERVE THEM. 
          KATHY STRAIGHT-LINE TREES. HAVE THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE NEIGHBOURHOODS. IN MY MIND IT'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT REWORKING OF THIS PROJECT. 
          FOR MY VOTE. AND I KNOW YOU BROUGHT UP TOWNHOMES, AND I SIT ON THE HOUSING COMMISSION AND I'VE SAID THIS OFTEN. BUT THEY WON TYPE OF HOUSING BILL THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR TOWNHOMES. 
          SO I'M NOT LOOKING AT THIS AND SEEING SOMETHING NEW. 
          WE DO HAVE A LOT OF TOWNHOMES IN CARMEL. 
          THEY DO LOOK REALLY NICE. BUT I WANT TO SEE THOSE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS FILLED OUT. 
          AND TO THE PUD, THAT IS CLEAR. IF IT'S NOT SPELLED OUT THERE, WE HAVE THESE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES AND THEY LOOK GREAT. 
          BUT THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THAT IS WHAT WE WILL GET. 
          THERE IS A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF ENGINEERING COMMENTS ON-SITE THAT NEED TO BE WORKED THROUGH. I AM NOT AN ENGINEER. 
          BUT AS I WALKED THROUGH, IT DOES SEEM LIKE THERE MIGHT BE SOME WETLANDS ON THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHY THE POND IS PUT WHERE IT IS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ENGINEERING ANDESITE CONSTRAINTS AS WELL. IN MY MIND THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. BECAUSE THIS DOES NOT REALLY FIT WITH-- WITHIN THE SURROUNDINGS. AND I AM NOT SOLD THAT THIS IS A GREAT SPOT FOR TOWNHOMES EITHER. RIGHT THERE ON MAIN STREET. 
          THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER FINAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> I MOVE TO SEND THIS ITEM TO FULL COMMITTEE AT THE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. 
          >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR OF SENDING THIS TO PETITION-- SENDING THIS PETITION TO COMMITTEE IN SEPTEMBER, LYCEE AYE. 
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ALL RIGHT. WE WILL SEE YOU AT COMMITTEE. 
          -- PLEASE SAY AYE. ALL RIGHT. 
          EVERYBODY HERE, YOU ARE WELCOME TO LEAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY. WE HAVE ONE MORE DOCKET. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          I WILL READ IN THE NEXT DOCKET DOCKET NO. PZ-2026-00121 DP: CONNER PRAIRIE INNOVATION DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN 
          >> WE ARE GOING TO RESUME OUR MEETING AFTER THAT QUICK RECESS. 
          [H.5. Docket No. PZ-2026-00121 DP: Conner Prairie Innovation District Development Plan ]
WE ARE GOING ON TO OUR LAST PETITION OF THE EVENING. 
          DOCKET NO. PZ-2026-00121 DP: CONNER PRAIRIE INNOVATION DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN THE APPLICANT SEEKS SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR A PORTION OF THE CONNER PRAIRIE DEVELOPMENT ALONG RIVER RD. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 14547 RIVER ROAD. IT IS ZONED CONNER PRAIRIE INNOVATION DISTRICT PUD (Z-683-23). FILED BY SABEN NUSBAUM OF MKSK STUDIOS ON BEHALF OF CONNER PRAIRIE FOUNDATION, INC. 
          SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE PETITIONER. 
          WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT. >> I'M SURPRISED WE DON'T HAVE A 
          SIGN FOR THAT YET. >> I AM REPRESENTING CONNER PRAIRIE FOUNDATION MUSEUM. I'M HERE TO PRESENT WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY. I HAVE THE DESIGN TEAM HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. WHAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY IS-- WE WERE PREPARED TO GIVE A FULL PRESENTATION, BUT A LOT OF THE INFORMATION MIGHT HAVE COME OUT ON PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN WE WERE HERE TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO. 
          THERE HAS NOT BEEN A LOT OF CHANGE. 
          DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION? YOU MIGHT DO A BETTER JOB. OKAY. 
          I WILL STOP TOUCHING THINGS. OKAY. 
          WE BROUGHT THIS UP MANY YEARS AGO TO LOOK AT A PUD ON HOW CONNER PRAIRIE-- CONNER PRAIRIE FOUNDATION WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP AND CREATE AN EXPERIENCE FOR THE MUSEUM OVER ON THEIR PROPERTY SOUTH OF RIVER ROAD AND 146TH. WHAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY IS REALLY THE NEXT STEP IN THAT DESIGN ITERATION. 
          WE ARE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT BUILDINGS OR OTHER ACTIVITIES OR ANYTHING VERTICAL. WE KNOW THIS WHOLE PROCESS THAT WE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH WITH THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND IT WILL COME. BUT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CARMEL CLAY PARKS TO GET THE TRAIL PUT IN. 
          AND THERE IS LEFT SOME OF THE EARTH MOVING AND THINGS THAT NEED TO GET DONE IN ORDER FOR THAT TO BE CLEANED UP AND HAVE FULL ACCESS TO THE RESIDENTS OF CARMEL TO THE TRAIL. 
          THAT IS ONE PIECE OF IT, BUT THERE IS ALSO A BUILDING FOR ELI LILLY. AND OFFICE THAT IS ON OUR PROPERTY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO RELOCATE AND RENOVATE. 
          AND I SAY RENOVATE, REFURBISH IT BACK TO IT'S ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURE. SO I AM PREPARED TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO. 
          I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU ARE NEW. BUT IN THE ESSENCE OF TIME, IF YOU LIKE, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE COMMENTS THAT COME IN AND WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD. 
          SO I LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU. >> FEEL FREE TO GIVE YOUR 
          PRESENTATION. >> OKAY. 
          I THINK WE ESTABLISHED WHERE THE PROJECT IS LOCATED. 
          THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TOW DIFFERENT ZONES. 
          ONE COMMERCIAL ZONE SOUTH OF THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE PROJECT. 
          AND THE NORTHERN HALF BEING MORE FOCUSED TOWARDS THE FOOD FARM AND ENERGY EXPERIENCED OF DEVELOPMENT THAT CONNER PRAIRIE IS LOOKING TO ESTABLISH. THE AREA IN FRONT OF HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IS OUR CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PHASE WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD. RIGHT OFF THE BAT IT IS THE ENTRY DRIVE THAT COMES IN THE ROUNDABOUT IN THE POND THAT IS THERE THAT WAS USED TO FILL DIRT SO THAT CARMEL COULD RAISE THE GRADES TO PUT THE TRAIL IN. THAT'S ONE PIECE OF IT. 
          THEN IT IS THE TWO COMMERCIAL PLOTS THAT ARE THERE JUST NORTH OF THAT INTERNAL ROUNDABOUT. AND IN THE FOOD FARM WE HAVE INCLUDED TWO BUILDINGS IN THIS. THOSE PROJECTS ARE CURRENTLY IN FUND-RAISING. WE ARE NOT ENGAGED WITH THE ARCHITECT AT THIS TIME. WE DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING FOR SEVERAL YEARS. WE JUST FELT THE NEED TO INCORPORATE THAT IN THERE BECAUSE OF THE NEED TO RELOCATE 
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THE OFFICE TO IT'S FUTURE HOME. WHICH IS 150 FEET SOUTH OF IT'S EXISTING LOCATION. THIS IS A BLOWUP OF THAT AREA. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, WE CALLED OUT THE FUTURE SUBMISSIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO COME FORWARD WITH. AS YOU KNOW, WE MET ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LANDSCAPING BUFFERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THE TIMELINE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE, WE HAVE HAD MANY MEETINGS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO MEET AND SUPPORT. AND ONE OF THE ITEMS, AS I'M LOOKING AT THE HOA ACROSS THE STREET, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TWO OFF-SITE LOCATIONS AND LANDSCAPING BUFFERING WILL BE ACCOMMODATED. THIS IS A LIST OF THE OPEN HOUSES. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE? BETWEEN 20 AND 25 PEOPLE CAME TO THE OPEN HOUSE TO REVIEW THE PROJECT. AND I THINK MOST OF THE COMMENTS THERE WERE-- IT IS NOTHING UNCOMMON. 
          IS THE CONCERN OF TRAFFIC AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          BUT MOST PEOPLE WERE FAIRLY POSITIVE OF IT AND APPRECIATIVE OF THE TRAIL THAT IS THERE NOW. THE PLANS AS SUBMITTED, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN HAS ALL THE SURVEY AND EVERYTHING WE NEED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. BROKEN OUT INTO DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF OPEN SPACE, AS WELL AS OUR PARKING, WHICH WAS MENTIONED IN THE LAST CONCERN OF HOW THAT IS. 
          NONE OF THIS IS INTENDED TO MOVE FORWARD AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. THIS WOULD BE TIED TO A BUILDING THAT WOULD GO VERTICAL. WE JUST WANT TO FINISH THAT FRONT ENTRY. BUT THIS IS THERE SO YOU UNDERSTAND WE ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED. 
          AND I DID THE TRAFFIC STUDY AS MENTIONED. 
          I KNOW THAT OTHERS WERE INTERESTED IN THAT AT-- AT THE TIME IT HAD NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE TRAFFIC. 
          AND I THINK THAT WILL STILL BE SIGNIFICANT. 
          THIS IS A PEDESTRIAN AREA. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A MINOR SIDEWALK. THESE ARE THE FORMS WE WANT TO RELOCATE IT-- RELOCATE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE. 
          WE CAN MOVE THAT DOWN AND HAVE THE PARKING THAT WAS REMOVED BECAUSE OF THE TRAIL THAT CAME THROUGH BY CONNELL PARKS. 
          IN ADDITION TO HAVING THAT SIDEWALK IN, AND THE AREAS DOWN IN THE SOUTH, WE WOULD WANT THIS TO CUT ACROSS THE-- WHERE THE TRAIL CROSSES THE ROAD SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO TAKE THAT OUT OF SERVICE DURING FUTURE CONSTRUCTION WORK. 
          LIGHTING PLANTS. DARK SKY LIGHTING WAS ONE OF THE BIG REQUIREMENTS OF THE PUD. WE WANT TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH THAT. THESE ARE NOT INTENDED TO BE THE EXACT FIXERS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. 
          WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR BRANDING ASPECTS TO GO FORWARD 
          WITH. >> PLEASE SPEAK UP AT THE MICROPHONE. THANK YOU. 
          >> I AM WITH THE LANDSCAPES AND ARCHITECTS. 
          THE...  BEATS THE PUD REQUIREMENTS. 
          THERE IS NO FIXTURE TALLER THAN 25 FEET WHICH IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PUD. THE PREVIOUS SLIDE LOOKED AT THE PHOTO METRICS OF THE SITE. EVERYTHING IN RED IS THE ILLUMINATED AREAS. THE AREAS YOU SEE IN BLUE HAVE NO ELIMINATION. ANYTHING COMING OFF OF OUR PROPERTY IS DOWN TO ZERO, WHICH IS ONE REQUIREMENT OF THE PUD. 
          THIS IS THE PLANTING PLAN. THE FULL DRAWINGS WE HAVE, I THINK THERE WERE 94 PAGES THAT WERE SUBMITTED. 
          THIS AREA IS COVERED BY SIX INDIVIDUAL SLIDES SO WE CAN HIGHLIGHT THAT IF YOU'D LIKE US TO. 
          BUT EVERYTHING WE HAVE IN THE PLAN EATS THE NATURAL CONSERVATION CAMPUS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WERE USING NATIVE PLANT MATERIAL THROUGHOUT EVERYTHING WE ARE DOING. 
          TOO SMALL TO SEE. THIS IS THE PLANTING PLANNER, THE PLANTING SPECIES. BUT WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THREE ZONES THAT WE HAVE PLANTED. THE YELLOW ZONE IS ZONE ONE. 
          AND AS YOU MOVE TO THE NORTH YOU MOVE INTO A SPECIAL ZONE OF 
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PLANTING. AND AS YOU LOOK AT THE BUFFERS AND THE PAINT AREAS, THAT IS A PIONEER ZONE. 
          SO THIS IS FOLLOWING ALL OF OUR PLANTING SIGNS. 
          WITHOUT GETTING INTO DETAIL, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE TREES THROUGH THOSE ZONES. FROM OAK, MAPLE, HICKORY. 
          WHICH ARE PART OF THOSE CONSERVATION AREAS FOR THE PLANTING. THE BUFFER DEVELOP AND SURROUND THE SITE, IT HAS A PUD WITH A 5R ROAD. 
          A 50-FOOT BUFFER ALONG 146TH. A 100-FOOT BUFFER ALONG THE OTHER EDGE. ALL THE PUD SPELLS OUT HOW MANY TREES PER 100 FEET WE NEED AND ALL THOSE AREAS. 
          AND WE ARE FOLLOWING THAT. JUST WEST OF RIVER ROAD WHERE THE LEGACY HOA'S ARE, ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PUD THAT WE AGREED TO PLANT, EIGHT-- TEN TREES AND 20 SHRUBS ON THE SIDE OF THAT DEVELOP END. HERE YOU CAN SEE A PLANTING PLAN FOR THOSE TREES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD. 
          ALL THE OTHER LINES YOU SEE FLOATING THROUGH, THERE ARE A LOT OF UTILITIES IN THIS AREA AND WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR WHERE ALL THE UTILITY BUFFERS ARE. 
          BUT WE ALSO AGREED TO MEET WITH THE HOA'S AND WE ARE GOING TO PLANT THOSE TREES. AND THEY ARE OUT THERE APPROVING WHAT WE ARE DOING. STORM WATER AND DRAINAGE ON THIS SITE. IT'S ALL GOING TO BE-- EVERYTHING NORTH OF THE ENTRY BUILDING THAT YOU SEE HERE. 
          THE CELEBRATION INNOVATION BUILDING THAT YOU SEE UNDER AREA A WILL BE UNDERGROUND STORAGE. EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THAT BUILDING IS OVERFLOW. SO WERE PICKING IT UP IN TWO DRAINAGE SOILS. BUT ALL THE PARKING LOTS ARE FLOWING, EVERYTHING IS FLOWING INTO THOSE SWALES. 
          AND THOSE WILL BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, AS YOU SEE. 
          AS THE WATER FLOWS OVER THAT PLANT MATERIAL IT CLEANS OUT HEAVY METALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING FROM A CONSERVATION STANDARD. 
          >> THIS IS GOING BACK TO THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          IT'S ABOUT 22 ACRES ON THAT PUD THAT WAS APPROVED. 
          22 ACRES OF THAT. AND YOU WILL SEE THE FUTURE ADL S-1 TO THE NORTH AND ONE TO THE SOUTH FOR THOSE SMALL RETAIL BUILDINGS WE HAVE. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU 
          MIGHT HAVE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          BY A SHOW OF HANDS, WOULD ANYBODY HERE LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOUR OR IN OPPOSITION? PLEASE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. IF YOU COULD STAND IN LINE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WE WILL GIVE YOU 3 MINUTES. 
          AS BEFORE, THE LIGHTS WILL GO GREEN, YELLOW AND RED WHEN YOU NEED TO WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS. INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND STATE GENERALLY WHERE YOU LIVE. AND THE MICROPHONE IS CURRENTLY ON. NOW YOU HAVE TURNED IT OFF. 
          THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS STEVE. 
          I LIVE AT 7209 BELMONT DRIVE. I LIVE ACROSS RIVER ROAD AND I HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS PROJECT. I WASN'T ABLE TO GO TO THE OPEN HOUSE LAST WEEK. I WAS TRAVELLING ON BUSINESS. 
          BUT I DO HAVE COMMENTS REGARDING THE TRAFFIC. 
          WHICH WAS DISCUSSED. AND I HAVE TWO DIFFERENT NIGHT VIDEOS OF TRAFFIC THAT HAS BEEN BACKED UP PAST CHERRY CREEK DRIVE, THE ROUNDABOUT HERE. SO THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS APPROVED, THIS PROGRAM, AND IT FAILED BECAUSE TRAFFIC BACKS UP FROM RUSH HOUR MAC. PAST CHERRY CREEK. 
          I CAN SEE IT DOWNRIVER ROAD SOUTHBOUND. 
          THAT WAS A FAILURE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. ALEXANDER CAN ANSWER THIS AFTER I'M DONE. BUT THERE IS A TWO STORY MOUND OF DIRT THAT WAS MOVED DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OF THE CARMEL PARKS PATH. WHY IS THERE A TWO STORY PATH. 
          ARE YOU PLANNING ON CHANGING THE GRADE OF THE PROGRAM IN ANY WAY? 
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THAT WILL RAISE IT? IT WILL BE NOT WITHIN ANY ORIGINAL PLAN OF THE GRADE. I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT THIS 50-FOOT BUFFER THAT IS MENTIONED FOR THE-- FOR THE LANDSCAPE THAT THEY PLANT IT NOW. 
          AND GIVE IT A CHANCE TO MATURE BEFORE IT WILL BE DEVELOPED SO YOU WILL HAVE LESS COMPLAINTS FROM US. 
          THIS IS LAST-- THE LAST RURAL AREA IN CARMEL. 
          AND YOU ARE TURNING IT IN TO A COMMERCIAL. 
          -- A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. SUPPOSEDLY A MUSEUM. 
          BUT IT IS COMMERCIAL. COME ON. 
          SO WE ARE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE TO LOOK AT A COMMERCIAL AREA. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE PARKING LOTS. 
          SO THOSE ARE SOME QUESTIONS I HAVE. 
          AND I APPRECIATE MR. ALEXANDER COMMENTING ON MY QUESTIONS. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR MY TIME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          CAP NEXT, PLEASE? >> HELLO. 
          MY NAME IS JOHN. I LIVE RIGHT ON THE CIRCLE OF THE-- ON THE LAST HOUSE. SO IT'S A BIG IMPACT FOR ME. 
          AND THAT WAS MY MAIN QUESTION. COULDN'T WE GET THE TREES PLANTED? BECAUSE AT LEAST THAT WILL GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO MATURE A LITTLE BIT BEFORE YOU START CONSTRUCTION. AND DURING CONSTRUCTION I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY WAY YOU CAN WORK ON THIS. 
          BUT THE AMOUNT OF DUST THAT COMES ACROSS IS OVERWHELMING. 
          WHEN YOU ARE GRADING, I DON'T SEE IT AS ANY ISSUE. 
          AND I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT EVERYTHING WAS GRADED ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO. AND YOU GOT A-- YOU HAVE TO PUT THE PADS IN. AND NOW IT'S JUST SORT OF GROWING WILD. I WAS WONDERING IF-- WHY YOU DID NOT PLANT MORE GRASS OR REPAIR IT. 
          IT'S ALL JUST CROSSED. SO THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          AND THE TRAFFIC. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK. BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC BACKS UP ALL THE WAY TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. 
          IT'S ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE OR HALF A MILE DOWN. 
          SO IT'S A LONG BACKUP. THE TRAFFIC WAS NEVER LIKE THAT TWO YEARS AGO. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED. BUT A LOT OF TRAFFIC IS COMING NOW IN RIVER ROAD. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHEN EVERYTHING IS CONSTRUCTED, WHAT KIND OF VISITATION YOU ARE 
          HOPING FOR? >> WHEN ALL THE COMMENTS ARE DONE THEY WILL COME UP AND TAKE QUESTION. 
          >> THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION TOO. HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE VISITING SEASONALLY. SO AT LEAST WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO EXPECT AS A RESIDENTS THERE. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? NO-- HOLD ON. 
          THERE IS MORE. ONE MORE. 
          PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. >> I AM CHRISTY DEMPSTER. 
          I LIVE IN AN AREA THAT BACKS UP TO RIVER ROAD. 
          JUST TO REITERATE ANOTHER RISK AROUND THE TRAFFIC, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE NEW TRAILHEAD, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT GREATER NUMBER OF HIKERS AND PEDESTRIANS. 
          SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT-- IT'S ANNOYING WITH THE TRAFFIC, BUT THERE IS A GREATER PEOPLE RISK AS WE ARE TRYING TO BE MORE 
          BIKER AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS? 
          >> ALL DO MY BEST. IF I MISSED A QUESTION, FEEL FREE TO BLURT THEM OUT. FIRST OFF, THE NUMBER 1 
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QUESTION, AND AM GOING TO ADDRESS IT CHRONOLOGICALLY, THE DEVELOP AND PLAN YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS THE INTENT SO WE CAN GO AND DO THE LANDSCAPING BUFFERS IN THESE AREAS. AND WE CANNOT PHYSICALLY RUN CONTRACT WORK RIGHT NOW TO DO IT AS IT IS UNTIL WE GET THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS. 
          THAT'S WHAT THIS PROCESS IS AND WE ARE HOPING TO GET THAT ADDRESSED. AND WE WILL SEE THE AREAS GETTING PLANTED AS WE GO VERTICAL. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE UTILITY WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER. BUT WE WILL GET THE WORK DONE ALONG THE EDGES SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. 
          DOES THAT MEAN I'M GOING TO DO THE BUFFER ON 146? NO. THAT IS YEARS AWAY FROM WHEN I WOULD BE GOING FORWARD. OR ON WHITE RIVER WHEN WE DEVELOP ON THE OTHER SIDE. THAT IS NUMBER 1. 
          THE SECOND ONE I THINK WAS KIND OF INTERESTING. 
          IT GOES IN WITH THE MOUND OF DIRT. 
          THE MOUND OF DIRT AND THE DUST. APPROACHED TO DONATE PLAN FOR THE TRAIL PROJECT, WE DID WORK WITH THE PARKS TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          AND WE HAD TO CHANGE OUR PROCESS INTERNALLY. 
          AND WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WAS REARRANGE THE SITE SO THEY COULD PUT THIS TRAIL IN. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WAS AREAS THAT HAD TO BE FILLED UP TO SIX OR 8 FEET. 
          IN AREAS THAT THEY NEEDED DIRT. ALL THE GRADING DONE OUT THERE WAS DONE BY CONNER PRAIRIE PARKS. 
          THEY MOVED THINGS AROUND TO WHAT WE WERE DOING IN THE FUTURE, BUT ONE OF THE COMMENTS I BELIEVE IS ALSO GETTING THE EROSION CONTROL PLANTED. AND I AM WORKING WITH CARAMEL CLAY PARKS TO ADDRESS THAT. WHAT THEY DON'T FINISH AS PART OF THEIR EROSION CONTROL. AND WE WILL COME BACK AND DO IT. 
          I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT TO US AND WE WANT TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE ENVIRONMENT AS WELL. 
          THAT'S WHAT THE PROJECT IS ALL ABOUT. 
          THE MOUND OF DIRT, THAT IS TOPSOIL. 
          THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE MOVED AS SOON AS WE GET APPROVAL TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO. BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BUILDING UP A FLOODING HILL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          I KNOW IT IS ROUGHLY ABOUT RIGHT THERE. 
          IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. AND IT HAS EROSION CONTROL, A BLANKET SURROUNDING IT RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT ONCE WE GET THIS APPROVAL PROCESS WE CAN START TO MOVE THE DIRT. THAT WAS LEFT OVER BY CARMEL. 
          THEY WENT AND DID THE WORK. HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS PART OF THAT QUESTION. TIMING ON THE PROJECTS, I'M NOT AVOIDING TRAFFIC, I'M JUT GOING TO ADDRESS THIS. 
          OKAY. THE TIMING ON THE PROJECT-- WE ARE A NONPROFIT, AND OUR EFFORTS TO FUND RAISE FOR ACTIVITY FOR THE MORE THAN HALF OF THIS CAMPUS WHICH WE CALL THE FOOD FARM ENERGY EXPERIENCE, THAT WILL BE DONE THROUGH FUND-RAISING AND OTHER ASPECTS. AS FAR AS THE COMMERCIAL VENTURES, THERE ARE TWO BUILDING SHOWN HERE THAT COULD BE RESTAURANTS. WE ARE NOT ENGAGED WITH ANYONE CURRENTLY. WE MET WITH SOMEONE THAT SHOWS INTEREST, BUT THAT HAS GONE QUIET. 
          THEY THOUGHT THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS WERE TOO RESTRICTIVE. 
          SO WERE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE PROJECTS UNLESS WE HAVE PARTNERS THAT WANT TO COME AND LIVE BY THE PUD THAT HAS VERY STRICT STANDARDS. SO WE DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE ON ANY OF THOSE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES. 
          SO I CAN'T REALLY ADDRESS THAT. BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ENGAGED IN IT. TRAFFIC, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY WITH TRAFFIC IS EXISTING TRAFFIC FLOW AND THE-- IN THE IMPACT ZONE, CLOSURES AND THINGS GOING ON AROUND THE CITY CERTAINLY HAVE IMPACT. WE DON'T ADD ANYTHING TO THE EXISTING TRAFFIC. THE STUDY IS SAYING OUR PROJECT-- WILL OUR PROJECT HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE EXISTING TRAFFIC WE SO IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE. 
          SO IF SOMETHING IS NOT WORKING AS YOU WOULD LIKE, OR THE WAY WE WOULD LIKE, IT DOESN'T IMPACT. AND THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR FIXING IT. I THINK THAT IS ACCURATE. 
          I WOULD BEEN TO YOUR STREET DEPARTMENT, BUT THE ANF ENGINEERING TRAFFIC STUDY STATED THAT WE-- IT WOULD NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON ANY TRAFFIC. AS FAR AS THE COUNTS ON ATTENDANCE, I WILL BE HAPPY TO GO AND DIG THAT UP, BUT I BELIEVE ALL THE ACCOUNTS WERE SHARED AT THAT POINT IN TIME. 
          DID I GET ALL THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED? 
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          >> I THINK YOU PROBABLY DID. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ALEXIA FOR STAFF COMMENTS. 
          >> THANK YOU. ALEXIA LOPEZ, DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. IN REVIEWING THIS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN DOES FOLLOW THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS SHOWN IN THE PUD. THERE ARE FIVE PROPOSED BUILDINGS WITH THIS SPACE. SO THIS IS NOT THE DEVELOP AND PLAN FOR THE WHOLE OF CONNOR PRAIRIE. 
          IT'S JUST A SMALL SECTION. THE MAIN VEHICLE OR ENTRANCE WILL BE FROM THE ROUNDABOUT AT RIVER ROAD AND CHERRY CREEK BOULEVARD. ARCING IS ACCOMMODATED THROUGH TWO MAIN LARGE SURFACE PARKING LOTS, AND THERE IS OVERFLOW PARKING AS WELL. THEY ARE SHOWING ABOUT 300 PARKING SPACES WITH 23 BUS PARKING SPACES. 
          EXTRA LONG SPACES. AND 213 WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE PUD. STORM WATER WOULD BE ACCOMMODATED THROUGH UNDERGROUND TENSION PONDS AND BIO SWALES. 
          THE PROJECT RUNS ALONG THE RIVER THROUGH THE SITE AND ALONG RIVER ROAD UP TO 146 STREET. SIDEWALKS AND CROSSWALKS WILL CONNECT VISITORS THROUGH THE PARKING AREAS TO THE MAIN BUILDINGS. SHORT-TERM PARKING LOCATIONS ARE REQUIRED AT A RATE OF ONE SPACE PER 20 ON AUTOMOBILE SPACES, AND THOSE HAVE BEEN SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN. 
          THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS WILL BE SUBMITTED LATER THROUGH A DLS PLAXO YOU WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO SEE THOSE. 
          THE REQUIRED BUFFER YARDS AND LANDSCAPING PLANS PROVIDED WERE STATED IN THE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. 
          THOSE WERE SPELLED OUT IN THE PUD. 
          SOME BUFFER YARDS WILL BE INSTALLED BY CONNOR PERRY, AND SOME WILL BE INSTALLED BY THE PARKS PROJECT. 
          TREE PRESERVATION HAS BEEN SHOWN ON THE DP AS WELL AS THE LARGER SITE FOR CONNOR PRAIRIE FOR THAT LAND. 
          PARKING LOT PLANNINGS ARE PROVIDED, THE LIGHTING WILL MEET DARK SKY FRIENDLY GOALS. PARKING LIGHTS ARE SHOWN AT 24 FEET TALL. PUD REQUIRES 5 FEET TALL. 
          THEY ARE SHOWING PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS THAT WILL BE 3 FEET TALL. 
          AT THE FINAL LIGHT FIXTURE DESIGNS WILL BE SUBMITTED WITH THE A DLS SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE DESIGN OF THOSE. 
          THE PROPOSED SIGNAGE PLAN, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION AT THIS TIME TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE REVIEW THAT WITH THE A DLS. 
          THEY HAD SHOWN THAT ON THEIR SITE PLAN, BUT THE WAY THEY CLASSIFY THAT, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE BUILDING DESIGNS YET. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED TO REVIEW THAT WITH THE ADLS. 
          THEY ARE SHOWING SOME SUSTAINABILITY FEATURES THROUGH THE TREES PRESERVATION, NATIVE PLANTINGS. 
          THE RAIN GARDENS AND BIO SWALES TO HELP WITH WATER QUALITY. 
          AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER OUTSTANDING COMMENTS ON THIS. 
          THEY NEEDED TO ADDRESS REMAINING COMMENTS AND OBJECT DOCUMENTS AND ENGINEERING COMMENTS. BUT IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER-- AFTER YOU HAVE DISCUSSED IT, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU VOTE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND PROCEDURES AT THE SITE. 
          AND MAKE THE ITEMS THIS EVENING CONDITION ON FINALIZING THOSE 
          COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          FELLOW COMMISSIONERS CUT QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? 
          >> A COUPLE QUICK COMMENTS. I KNOW ONE COUNCILLOR IS NOT HERE TONIGHT. BUT I SPOKE WITH HER EARLIER, AND SHE WANTED ME TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS I CAN GIVE YOU CONTACT INFORMATION AND YOU CAN REACH OUT TO HER DIRECTLY. ANY CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS YOU CAN ASK. ALSO REGARDING THE PEDESTRIAN QUESTION AND CONCERS, I AM WONDERING IF THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A RAISED CROSSWALK IN THAT AREA. 
          SO I COULD TALK TO ENGINEERING AND MY OTHER COUNCILLORS TO SEE IF THAT-- IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR THAT. 
          >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES, DUBBIE? 
          >> THIS IS A 20,000-FOOT QUESTION. 
          IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE HAVE DEALT WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          IS IT STILL AFFILIATED WITH THE SMITHSONIAN? 
          >> CONNOR PRAIRIE IS AN AFFILIATE MUSEUM WITH THE SMITHSONIAN. SO IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A 
          SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTE. >> I JUST HEARD THE NAME MENTIONED, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE NOTHING HAD HAPPENED SINCE 
          WE HAD THIS A COUPLE YEARS AGO. >> MY APOLOGIES TO CONNOR 
          PRAIRIE. >> AND OUR RIVER RAFTS ON THE TABLE FOR CONNECTING THE FISHER'S AREA OF CONNOR PRAIRIE? 
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          >> THERE IS A DESIRE IN THE FUTURE PHASE, WE WOULD HAVE A DOCK AND AN AREA THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          >> AND THIS IS JUST A FINAL-- YES OR NO. 
          I REMEMBER TWO YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS AGO, I REMEMBER THAT ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS WAS WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBOURHOOD ASSOCIATION ACROSS FROM THE WEST SIDE, ABOUT MAYBE DOING SOME PLANTINGS ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD. 
          AND I WONDERED IF ANYTHING HAD EVER MATERIALIZED WITH THAT. 
          >> IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, THAT WAS PART OF THE PUD APPROVAL PROCESS, THAT WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD DO THAT DURING THE DEVELOP 
          MIDPHASE. >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT CORRECTLY. YOU DON'T NEED TO GO INTO 
          DETAIL. >> THIS IS JUST WHAT WE ARE SHOWING RIGHT THERE. BUT THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE THE FINAL DOCUMENT. THIS IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE HOA TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND MAKE SURE IT MEETS 
          THEIR EXPECTATIONS. >> OKAY. 
          >> JEFF? >> WILL BE GET A CHANCE TO SEE THIS AMAZING SLEDDING HILL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT? 
          >> I WILL NOT WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE A 
          SLEDDING HILL ON THE EAST SIDE. >> I APPRECIATE SOME OF THE INFO YOU RESPONDED WITH. I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS ONGOING WORK IN THE GRADING OF THE CONSTRUCTION THAT PRECIPITATED THE CONTROL QUESTION. 
          BUT I GUESS YOU GUYS WERE ON THAT. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS TO MAKE SURE YOU TAKE CARE OF THE SITE AND BE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDS WITH WHAT'S GOING ON AND THE ACTIVITY THERE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND THE POTENTIAL FOR A RAISED CROSSWALK TO CONTINUE TO HELP PEDESTRIANS AND NOT VEHICLE USERS. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT PARTNERSHIP, I HOPE. AND IF THERE ARE TRAFFIC QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE YOUR PRO PROJECT-- AND IF THERE ARE TRAFFIC SCENARIOS, AND CERTAINLY ACTIVITY WITH RACE CROSSWALKS, THERE ARE 146 STREET THINGS GOING ON, THINGS THAT CHANGE TRAFFIC ALL OVER THE PLACE. I'M CURIOUS IF THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT IS ONGOING? AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU ON WHAT THE RIGHT TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS ARE ADJACENT 
          TO YOUR SITE. >> I BELIEVE ON THE PLAN WE CALL FOR A TRAFFIC BEACON AT THIS ROUNDABOUT WHICH IS THE ENTRIES. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE THE BLINKING LIGHT THAT PEOPLE COULD CROSS. 
          I WAS NOT SURE IF IT WAS BEING REFERRED TO AS PART OF THE RAISED SITE, IF IT WAS DOWN CLOSER TO THE PARKING LOT THAT PEOPLE ARE ACCESSING. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT SOMETHING ON THE PROPERTY. BUT THAT'S-- I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT RESPONSE WAS. I MIGHT BE MISTAKEN. 
          ARE WE GOING TO LOOK AT CROSSWALKS IN THIS AREA? I THINK WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WITHIN THE SUPPORT OF 
          CARMEL. >> THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH CARMEL PARKS ON THAT TRAIL. I WALKED IN YESTERDAY AND IT'S FANTASTIC. IT'S GREAT FOR OUR CITY. 
          SO GREAT-- THANK YOU FOR DONATING THAT LAND AND ALLOWING THAT TRAIL TO GO IN. IT SOUNDS LIKE STAFF CAN PLEASE CONFIRM, THIS IS IN THE TERMS OF THE PUD. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE DO NOT REMEMBER. 
          BUT THAT PUD TOOK A REALLY LONG TIME. 
          BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL. 
          IT WAS A LONG, LONG TIME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OR DO I HAVE A MOTION? IF WE ARE VOTING ON IT TONIGHT 
          WE HAVE TO SUSPEND OUR RULES. >> I MOVE WE SUSPEND THE RULES 
          SO WE CAN ACT ON THIS TONIGHT. >> DO I HAVE A SECOND? 
          >> SECOND. >> ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOUR OF SUSPENDING OUR RULES AND PROCEDURE TO ACT ON THIS PETITION TONIGHT SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? HEARING ON, RULES ARE SUSPENDED. DO I HAVE A MOTION? 
          >> I MOVED TO APPROVE THIS ITEM THIS EVENING, CONDITION ON FINALIZING EVERYTHING IN THE PROJECT IN-HOUSE. 
          >> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR OF APPROVING THIS DOCKET AND OUTSTANDING COMMENTS AND PROJECT DOCKS, SAY AYE. 
          OPPOSED? HEARING NONE? CONGRATULATIONS. THIS IS APPROVED. 
          THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS GREAT PROJECT TO OUR
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