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[1. Docket No. PZ-2026-00112 ADLS Amend: Hunters Glen Wall Change.]
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026. AND WE HAVE THREE DOCKETS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. DOCKET NUMBER ONE IS P.Z.2026, 01 0112, A.D.L.S.SEEKS PLAN AND DECISION APPROVAL TO REPLACE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD FRONT PERIMETER BRICK WALL WITH A FENCE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF EAST CARMEL DRIVE AND HUNTERS DRIVE AND ZONED R4 RESIDENTIAL.
FILED BY LAURIE SHULTZ ON BEHALF OF THE HUNTERS GLEN CONDO ASSOCIATION. WELCOME BACK.
>> THANKS. >> I WON'T TAKE UP A LOT OF
TIME >> PLEASE PUT YOUR MIC ON.
>> I WON'T TAKE A LOT OF TIME. I MET WITH YOUR BOARD AND WE ARE GOING TO GO WITH BRICK. IT IS A MATTER OF HOW WE APPLY IT. I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE HISTORICAL PEOPLE FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY.
GOING TO COME OUT, GET THE PAPERWORK SETTLED, FILLED OUT, SEE HOW THEY WILL HELP US IF THEY ARE.
IF THEY DO NOT WE WILL DO THE WORK IN TWO YEARS.
IT WILL BE BRICK. AND IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP US THEN WE WILL DO IT ALL AT ONCE.
SO THAT IS WHERE WE'RE AT. I HOPE I -- FLEX MEETING, I CAN REPORT TO YOU THAT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING.
>> YOU HAVE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS.
DEPARTMENT? >> THANK YOU, ALEXIA WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING OFFICE. UPDATE FROM STAFF IS ALSO THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THE BRICK THAT WAS SIMILAR ENOUGH TO IN COLOR WE THINK THAT COULD MATCH THE EXISTING WALL SO WE FORWARDED THAT INFORMATION TO THE PETITIONER.
HE WILL TRY TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT TO HELP FIND THE REPLACEMENT OF THE WALL. HE IS SATISFIED IF WE IS WILLING TO DO BRICK. WE CAN CONTINUE TO REVIEW THE DETAILS THROUGH THE PROCESS. IF THEY ARE COMMITTED TO BRICK WE WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL THIS EVENING.
COMMITTEE? >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
THAT IS FANTASTIC NEWS. SO THIS SEEMS SIMPLE THEN.
WOULD YOU LIKE A MOTION. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> OK. MOVE TO APPROVE THE BRICK FENCE AND THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO FINDIZE ANY OUTSTANDING COMMENTS AND PROJECT DOCKETS AND FINALIZE THE TIME VERSION AND LOOK OF THE BRICK FENCE.
>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> SECOND.
>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
>> AYE. >> OPPOSED? THE DOCKET PASSES 7-0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK.
[2. Docket No. PZ-2026-00155b ADLS Amend: Ascension St. Vincent Heart Center Signage]
>> SECOND IS DOCKET NUMBER P.Z.TEMPERATURE 2026, 00155 DADLS AMEND, ST. VINCENT HEART CENTER SIGNAGEMENT APPLICANT SEEKS LOCATION AND DESIGN APPROVAL FOR SIGNAGE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 10580 NORTH MEREDIAN ZONE.
MEREDIAN CORRIDOR AND NOT LOCATED WITHIN ANY OVERLAY DISTRICT. FILED BY AARON MEYER.
MEYER. OF B.Z.A. DESIGN ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER. THANK YOU.
>> AM I ABLE TO SHARE THE SCREEN.
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>> OK. WHILE WE WAIT, FOR THE SCREEN TO APPEAR, I'M ERIN MAR WITH B.S.A. DESIGN, JOINED BY RAMONE AND HILLARY. WE WERE HERE LAST MONTH.
TO TALK ABOUT THE REFUR PER BISHMENT, NEXT TO US31 WITH THE APPROVAL AND REVIEW OF THE EXTERIOR UPGRADES.
WE ARE HERE LOOKING TO DISCUSSION SIGNAGE.
BIG PICTURE, REVIEW OF THE EXTERIOR SIGN.
SEEKING VARIANCE TO ADD ADDITIONAL WALL SIGNS AND THEN THE -- INCIDENT TALL DISTRIBUTIONNAL SIGNS WITHIN THE SITE TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF WHAT IS REQUIRED.
SO HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH THE SIGNAGE SPECIFICS.
WE HAVE ELEVATIONS GRAPHICS AND COUPLE OF RENDERINGS.
IT IS A COUPLE OF PAGES SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE SHOULD
START. >> YOU SUMMARIZED IT NICELY.
CAN YOU GO THROUGH EACH OF BULLETS.
DON'T HAVE TO GO PAGE BY PAGE. >> SURE.
SO THE THREE MONUMENTAL SIGNS WERE PROPOSING WERE ONE AT ENTRANCE ON 106, SECOND ENTREE NORTH OF THE MAIN ENTRY.
THE ELEVATION COULD LOOK SIMILAR AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE ONE THAT IS SIX FEET HIGH THEN AT THE ROUND-ABOUT AL ILLINOIS AND 106, THERE IS CURRENTLY TWO SIGNS THAT KIND OF FLANK, PROPOSING JUST PUTTING ONE BACK. IT WOULD BE SIMILAR ELEVATION AND LOCATION OF THE SIGN YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE.
WE CAN DIVE INTO SPECIFICS IF YOU WANT.
THEN HERE WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE INCIDENTAL SIGNAGE, DISTRIBUTIONNAL SIGNAGE WITHIN THE SITE TO HELP DIRECT EITHER PATIENTS OR FAMILY MEMBERS TO THE APPROPRIATE ENTRIES. RIGHT NOW, GUESTS HAVE A IFFICULT TIME WAY FIND ONCE THEY ARE ON THE SITE. Select to skip to this part of the video">IFFICULT TIME WAY FIND ONCE THEY ARE ON THE SITE.
EITHER TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE OR TO THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT.
SO HOPEFULLY THE SIGNS ARE PLACED APPROPRIATELY TO DIRECT THEM AND IN TERMS OF EMERGENCY. SO THIS WOULD BE THE MAJORITY OF THE SIGNS. THERE ARE A FEW THAT DO EXCEED THE THREE. WHICH EXCEED THE THREE SQUARE FOOTAGE ALLOWED. WE ARE SEEK ASHEN VARIANCE FOR THE FOUR-FOOT HEIGHT OVERALL AND IT WOULD BE NO MORE THAN FIVE SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE. THAT WOULD SUFFICE FOR TWO OF THE SIGNS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING ON THE SITE.
THERE ARE THREE MAIN ENTRANCES FOR THE PUBLIC.
SO THIS WOULD BE THE MAIN ENTRY INTO THE HEART HOSPITAL.
THERE IS SMALL SIGNAGE THERE NOW.
WE ARE PROPOSING TO REPLACE THAT WITH A MORE PROMINENT NUMBER AND THE DIRECT HEART CENTER.
SIMILAR ON THEM, MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS, THERE IS ANOTHER SIGN THAT IS A DIFFERENT NUMBER.
IT SAYS MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS TO HELP DIRECT GUESTS WHEN THEY ARE COMING FOR A VISIT, WHICH ENTRY TO GO TO DURING BUSINESS HOURS. ADDITIONALLY, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER SIGN OVER THE -- IN ADDITION TO THIS ONE BUT THE MAIN ENTRY AT THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT, THAT HELPS DEFINE THIS IS THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT.
AS YOU SAWS, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SIGNS ON THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT CANOPY. ONE FOR THE AMBULANCE AND DICTATE WHERE THE AMBULANCE BAY IS AND THEN AGAIN, A BIGGER SIGN OUT FRONT THAT DETERMINES -- GOING TO THE WRONG WAY.
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THE HEART EMERGENCY ON THAT FRONT FACADE.THERE ARE ADDITIONAL EXISTING SIGNS.
LET ME SEE INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PACKET.
I CAN SEE THEM. >> WE WILL BE PLAN TAINING THOSE. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THEM HERE IN THIS RENDERINGS OR NOT. YOU HAVE THE BUILDING SIGNAGE AND ADDITIONAL SIGNS ON THE NORTH FACADE THAT JUST SAY ASSERTION MEDICAL OFFICES. THOSE ARE BEING MAINTAINED.
THEY WILL NOT CHANGE IN SHAPE OR IN SIZE.
THEY WILL JUST BE TAKEN DOWN AND REPLACED.
WITH THE INCREASE OF THOSE WALL SIGNS, THAT IS WHERE OUR RAINES IS BEING REQUESTED AND THEN THERE IS ONE ADDITIONAL WALL SIGN THAT IS AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE COURTYARD SO HERE IS THE PLANNED VIEW OF THE PAIN CANOPY.
WE ARE REDOING AND UPGRADING THE INTERNAL COURTYARD BUT IT HAS BEEN REQUESTED THAT THERE IS A LOW SIGN TO HONOR THOSE WHO ARE DONATING THE FUND. THAT WOULD BE THE SEVENTH SIGN WE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR AND THAT IS ALL.
>> THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD ALEXIA LOPEZ WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING OFFICE.
AS STATED, THE EXISTING WALL SIGNS AT THE TOPS OF THE BUILDING WILL REMAIN. THEY ARE PROPOSING ABOUT TEN NEW SIGNS AND NINE EXISTING THAT THEY ARE REPLACING SO THIS INCLUDES THE SOME OF THE WALL SIGNAGE, DIRECTIONAL AND GROUND SIGNS. THEY HAVE MADE RECESSIONS TO THE SIGNS SINCE THE LAST MEETING AND THE GROUNDSHINE SIGNS RELATE BETTER TO ARCHITECTURAL SIDE OF THE BUILDING. WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE SIX-FOOT-ONE INCH TALL SIGN, VERSES THE TALLER SIGN WAS 7 FEET. THESE ARE REPLACING EXISTING SIGNS AND THEY WILL BE GETTING LARGER IN WIDTH.
THAT IS WHY WE WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE SHORTER SIGN.
AND THEN WE ONLY HAVE TWO OTHER REMAINING COMMENTS.
ONE FOR THE WALL SIGNS. THEY WILL NEED TO BE A FACE CHANNEL LETTER, NOT A CABINET TYPE SIGN SO ONLY INCLUDE THAT TYPE OF SIGNAGE, AND NOT THE CABINET STYLE AND THEN THE PETITIONER DOES NEED TO REFRESH THEIR LANDSCAPING ON SITE SO THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPROVED LANDSCAPE PLAN AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL THIS EVENING.
>> COMMITTEE. >> THE DIRECTIONAL GROUND AND SIGNAGE IT IS ALL LIT WITHIN THE PARKING FACILITIES? IT'S NOT ALL LIT. THERE ARE A SELECT FEW THAT ARE. I BELIEVE IT IS THIS ONE.
THIS ONE IS ONE OF THE FOUR-FOOT SIGNS.
IT'S KIND OF AS YOU COME IN OFF OF ILLINOIS AND 106, IT IS KIND OF THE BIGGER SIGNS THAT HELPS TO DETERMINE WHERE YOU NEED TO GO. THAT ONE IS LIT.
I BELIEVE THERE IS ONE OTHER DIRECTIONAL SIGN ON THE PROPERTY THAT IS LIT. THE THREE AT THE ENTRIES AND THE ROUND-ABOUT WOULD ALSO BE LIT.
THOSE ARE EXISTING. >> ALL THE SIGNAGE ON THE
BUILDING ITSELF IS LIT? >> IT IS.
>> THANKS. >> THE SIGNS THAT ARE NEAR THE ILLINOIS STREET ROUND BOUT, THEY ARE NOT ON CITY RIGHT OF WAY. THEY ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
JUST ASKING OUT LOUD, I GUESS TO GET AFFIRMATION?
>> YES, THAN IS TRUE. LET ME -- YES, THEY ARE WITHIN THE PROPERTY. A LITTLE HARD TO SEE ON THE SMALL SCALE HERE. THEY ARE WITHIN THE PROPERTY AND THEN THEY HAVE BEEN LANDSCAPED TO CARMEL STANDARDS
>> THANKS. >> QUICK QUESTION AND DIRECTIONAL SIGNS. SO SINCE YOU WILL HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE FOR THE FOUR FEET, WHAT THE REASON FOR THE ONE EXTRA FOOT? IT IS EASIER TO READ? MORE VISIBLE? WHAT IS THE REASON FOR FOUR FEET VERSES THREE FEET? SO THE THREE I BELIEVE -- SO
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THE BELIEVE THE THREE IS MAYBE GOOD FOR FOUR LINES OF TEXT.AT THE GIVEN HEIGHT THAT IS NEEDED THAT YOU'RE DRIVING WHEN DRIVING A CAR. JUST A BIT OF THE TALLER AND IT WOULD ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE IN THE EVENT THAT ANOTHER ENTRANCE NEED TO BE DEFINED IN THE FUTURE.
>> HELPFUL TO KNOW. >> AS FAR AS THE DEPARTMENT COMMENTS ARE YOU OK WITH DOING THE SIX FOOT, ONE INCH SIGN INSTEAD OF SEVEN FEET AND UPDATING THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND USING THE CHANNEL LETTER INSTEAD OF THE CABINET DESIGN?
>> IN TERMS OF THE SIGNAGE, YES.
FOR THE LANDSCAPING CAN I WORK WITH YOU TO SEE WHAT WAS
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED? >> YES, I THINK WE SHOULD BE UPLOADING THE CONSULTANT WENT OUT AND INSPECTED IT SO I ASKED HER TO UPLOAD THAT TO SEE WHAT SERVICE MISSING.
>> YES, THAT WOULD BE UNDER TERMS.
>> THOSE ARE MY QUESTION. ALSO GLAD TO SEE YOU WILL HAVE MORE SIGNAGE SO THAT IT WILL BE EASIER TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOIN GOING.
THAT IS POSITIVE SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
>> I'M DRIVING IN A NERVOUS WRECK AND PULLING INNEN TO DON'T KNOW THIS HOSPITAL AND I GOT TO GET TO THE EMERGENCY, CAN YOU JUST PUT YOUR LAY OUT, UP THERE AGAIN.
JUST TELL ME, WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING, WHEN YOU COME IN, THE SIGNS IT WILL TAKE YOU IMMEDIATELY TO EMERGENCY.
>> SEE. IF YOU ARE COMING FROM 31, COME DOWN 106. YOU WILL SEE THE FIRST ROUND ABOUT SIGN HERE. AS YOU HEAD UP SOUTH ON ILLINOIS YOU WILL SEE THE MAIN ENTRANCE SIGN.
THERE IS A BIT OF A GREY CHANGE BETWEEN ILLINOIS AND THE SITE.
SO YOU WILL GO UP A SMALL HILL. YOU WILL SEE THIS SIGN FIRST.
BUT AS YOU ARE APPROACHING YOU SHOULD SEE THE BIG HEART EMERGENCY SIGN HERE. ALSO WORD AMBULANCE ON THE WEST SIDE HERE AND AS YOU GET CLOSER IN TERMS OF DRIVING, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL SIGNS UNDERNEATH THAT CAP PE -- CAP PE ALSO LIT
THAT SAY HEART EMERGENCY. >> THANK YOU.
>> ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
>> ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION IN.
>> I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE THE SIGNS SUBJECT TO FINALIZING ALL PROJECT COMMENTS WITH THE STAFF AND TO YOU RECEIVING THE
VARIANCES REQUIRED. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO RECOMMEND THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THIS SIGNAGE THIS EVENING. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[3. Docket No. PZ-2026-00118 PUD: Hampstead PUD]
>> OUR LAST ITEM IS DUCT P.Z.-2026-00118, P.U.D.: HAMP STEAD P.U.D. SO ALLOW A NEW SUBDIVISION WITH 32 LOTS LOCATED 1850 WEST MAIN STREET.
IT IS ZONED S.-1 RESIDENTIAL, FILED BY RICHARD LAWRENCE OF NELSON AND FRANKENBERGER ON BEHALF OF CHRISTOPHER SCOTT HOLMES. PETITIONER, READY.
>> MY NAME IS RICK LAWRENCE, ATTORNEY.
WE REPRESENT CHRISTOPHER SCOTT HOLMES ON THEIR APPLICATION TONIGHT FOR A P.U.D. WITH ME ARE CHRIS CARNELL AND LAURIE WHEELER BOTH WITH CHRISTOPHER SCOTT HOMES.
WE WERE HERE BEFORE SEEKING APPROVAL OF THE HAMSTEAD SUBDIVISION TO SMALL FOUR SALE NEIGHBORHOOD, SINGLE ATTACHED -- 1.5 TO $2 MILLION. AS A REMINDER AND SHOWN HERE, SUBJECT REAL ESTATE IS DEFINED GENERALLY BY THE YELLOW OUTLINE. IT IS AN IN-FILL SITE LOCATED NORTH OF 131ST STREET WEST OF DUNBAR ON TO ROAD AND CONSISTS OF NINE ACRES. THE SUBJECT SIGHT INCLUDES TWO EXISTING HOMES HERE AND HERE. AND A STREAM WHICH GENERALLY RUNS ALONG THE NORTHERN BORDER OF THE SITE.
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TONIGHT I WANT TO REVIEW THE PROGRESSION OF THE CONCEPT PLAN SINCE THE INITIAL FILING OF THIS APPLICATION.THIS IS THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN, DETAILS 36 HOMESITES OR LOT. AFTER TACK COMMENTS AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CONCEPT PLAN HAS NOW SHOWN WAS UPLOADED TO TROW PROJECT DOC AND PROVIDED TO STAFF.
SHOWS FOUR HOMESITES, NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE AND INCLUDED UPDATING BUFFERING AND PLANTINGS ALONG THE ENTRANCE DRIVE ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING HOME AND ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. TONIGHT I'M SHOWING YOU AN ADDITIONAL CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS JUST CREATED AND PROVIDED YESTERDAY. I HAVE HARD COPIES.
IF YOU WANT ONE, RAISE YOUR HAND.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN.
THIS IS SHOWING A FURTHER REDUCTION OF TWO HOMESITES SO TOTAL OF 30 HOMESITES WHICH IS A REDUCTION OF 17% OF THE HOMESITES SINCE INITIAL PLAN FILING.
WE ALSO SHOW IT IS LARGER ENGINEERED POND, APPROXIMATELY .9 ACRES AND THIS EQUATES TO ABOUT 36% OPEN SPACE FOR THE SITE AND IT IS 26% IF YOU REMOVE THE ENGINEER POND.
INTERN STREETS ARE ORGANIZED ALONG TWO PRIMARY CORRIDORS, WHICHEN ENHANCES VISUAL CONNECTIONIVETY AND CREATING A VILLAGE FEEL. SIDEWALKS AND INTENTIONAL HOME POSITIONING INCLUDING LANDSCAPING CREATE A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE PUBLIC REALM AND PRIVATE LIVING SPACES.
REAR ACCESS TO GARAGE, VISUAL ALLEY, WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT ALONG THE SPECIAL STREETS AS SHOWN.
THE PLAN SHOWS A POCKET PACK WITH A GAZEBO ALONG THE EASTERN ENTRANCE, ADDITIONALLY THE PETITIONERS INTENDS TO SHOW SMALLER AMENITIES NEAR THE POND ON THE SUBSEQUENCE VERSION OF THE CONCEPT PLAN. WE WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THE ADDITION OF SUBSTANTIAL AMENITIES WILL CONTRADICT WHAT WE BELIEVE THE HOMEOWNERS WILL WANT AND INCREASE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COST FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
OFFICIAL FILING FOR MODERN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN IS REPRESENTED BY THE SLIDE. DEPENDENT WERE MADE CONCERNING WHETHER MODERN CONTEMPORARY FIT WITHIN VILLAGE CHARACTER.
REFERENCE NOW IN THE P.U.D. ARE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BASED ON PRAIRIE STYLES BOTH OF IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARD OF VILLAGE WEST CLAY.
THIS IS REPRESENTATION OF STYLE THAT FITS WITHIN THAT CATEGORY.
THE GOAL REMAINS THE SAME. TO PROVIDE A UNIQUE BOUTIQUE AND LUXURY LOW MAINTENANCE COMMUNITY THAT DOES NOT EXIST IN CARMEL TO BETTER SERVE THE NEEDS OF THE SPECIFIC SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION. INCLUSION OF THREE AND FOUR BEDROOM OPTIONS ELEVATOR ACCESS ROOFTOP TAR RASK TREE OR FOUR CAR GARAGES WOULDEN SURE DIVERSE OF HOUSING OPTIONS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CAN ACCOMMODATE HOUSEHOLD TYPES.
THIS WOULD BE A STREETSCAPE VIEW SHOWING ALTERNATIVE ELEVATIONS BUILT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE P.U.D. WILL BE AMENDED. ...
APPLICANT BELIEVES LOCATION OF LOT 1 AND 13 SHOWN HERE AND HERE, WILL PROVIDE ANNEL GANT P ENTRANCE TO THE COMMUNITY, HIGHLIGHTING THE HIGH LEVEL OF CRAFTMANSHIP AND DETAIL THAT ONE CAN EXPECT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> LONG-TIME RESIDENT SEEKS TO RIGHT SIZE PROVIDED A LUXURY OPTION WITH ADEQUATE GARAGE SPACE AND MODERN LAY OUTS, AS NOTED BEFORE, THE ATTASH -- DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING BET $/* BETWEEN 1.5 -- BETWEEN 1.5
AND $2 MILLION. >> COUPLED OF ITEM REGARDING COMMENTS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, STAFF AND NEIGHBOR COMMENTS. THE ORIGINAL AMENDED VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY DISTRICT. YOU WILL KNOW THERE ARE POCKETS WHICH ARE SHOWN IN DARK GREEN, HARD TO SEE ON THE SLIDE.
OF DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO DEVELOPMENT OF LARGER LOTS.
THE GOAL OF THE VILLAGE WAS TO PROVIDE HOUSING OPTIONS WITHIN
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THAT COMMUNIY ALL ADJACENT AND COMPLEMENTARY TO ONE ANOTHER WHICH WE BELIEVE WE ALSO FALL WITHIN THAT VISION.THE AREA SHOWS TWO AREAS WHERE SMALLER LOTS ARE ADJACENT TO LARGER LOTS. THE P.U.D. PROPOSES STANDARD FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS THAT ARE HIGHER THAN THOSE WITHIN THE VILLAGE WEST CLAY P.U.D.
THIS COMPARISON CHART SHOWS. >> HARD TO SEE.
ANOTHER ITEM THAT PEOPLE HAVE COMMENTED ON AND THAT PRIOR PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS HAVE NOTED WERE TRAVEL CONCERNS. WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN A TRIP GENERATION LETTER FROM A.N.F. ENGINEERING WHICH IS NOT A TRAFFIC STUDY. NONETHELESS PROVIDE A GOOD OVER VIEW OF WHAT CAN BE EXPECTED FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WHILE THIS WAS AT -- WHILE WE ASKED THE ENGINEER TO PROVIDE THIS WITH A 32 LOT SUBDIVISION. THIS WAS -- WE ARE DOWN TO 30 AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER CONCLUDED THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES ENTERING AND EXITING THE SITE WILL NOT CAUSE NEGATIVE EFFECT TO THE SURROUNDING STREET SYSTEM AND WILL ENTER AND EXIT THE SITE IN A SAFE AND EFFICIENT MANNER END
QUOTE. >> COUPLE ITEMS ARE THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF COMMENTS REGARDING THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS. LOOKING TO TO THE 35-FOOT MAXIMUM HEIGHT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THE P.U.D.
THAT IS THE UNDERLYING STANDARD.
THAT IS THE STANDARD THROUGHOUT MUCH OF CARMEL AS IT EXISTS.
IT IS APPLICABLE TO TWO AND A HALF STOREY HOMES AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PROVIDING HERE. THOSE WITH ROOFTOP TERRACES, THEY ARE ORIENTED TO THE INNER SITE AND AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBOR HOMES. WE HAVE ALSO TRIED TO ENHANCE THE BUFFER AROUND THE PROPERTY. LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE BUFFER ALONG THE NORTHERN EDGE IS CONTROL BY THE ELLIOT CREEK DITCH, WHICH IS THERE AFTER CONTROLLED BY HAMILTON COUNTY SURVEYORS OFFICE FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE CREEK.
25 FOOT EASEMENT ON OUR SIDE AND 25 FOOT EASEMENT ON ADJOINING NORTHERN OWNERS SIDE. THAT CANNOT.
TOUCHED WITHOUT THE SURVEYORS EXPLICIT PERMISSION.
WE TRIED TO ENHANCE THE BUFFER ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE AND ALONG THE ENTRANCE DRIVE AS NOTED HERE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THIS SITE IS BORDERED BY VILLAGE WEST CLAY COMMON HERE AND HERE AND WE ARE TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL OF WHATEVER EXISTED IN THE AREA AND ENHANCE IT WHERE WE CAN.
ADDITIONAL PAINTINGS WILL BE MADE WHERE AVAILABLE AND PURSUIT TO U.D.O. STANDARDS. COLLECTIVELY THE RESIGNED DEVELOPMENT OF HAMPSTEAD WILL CREATE A RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT. WE CONTINUE TO REVIEW COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM STAFF AND ADJOINING LAND OWNERS AND WELCOME PLANNED COMMISSION COMMENTS THIS EVENING AS WE CONTINUE TO BE DELIBERATIVE ABOUT THE PROCESS.
WE ANTICIPATE IN HEARING THE COMMENTS GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT WHAT OUR PLAN CAN ACCOMPLISH ANTICIPATE RETURNING TO THE COMMITTEE FOR OCTOBER 6 COMMITTEE MEETING TO SHARE FURTHER REFINEMENTS TO THE PLAN.
WITH THAT I WILL CONCLUDE AND WILL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY COMMENTS YOU MAY HAVE OR COMMENTS ALSO.
ALEXIA LOPEZ WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING OFFICE.
THE PETITIONER MADE SEVERAL IMPROVEMENT TO THE OVERALL CONCEPT PLAN INCLUDING THE INCREASED OPEN SPACE, LARGER POND AND LOCATION OF THE POND. AT A PATH AROUND THE POND AND INCREASED BUFFERING AROUND THE PROPERTY.
THEY HAVE REVISED THE CHARACTER IMAGERY AND PRAIRIE STYLE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES. WE BELIEVE THIS WORDING NEEDS TIGHTEN TOED UP AND WORKED ON SO THAT IT IS CLEAR IN THE FUTURE WHAT WILL BE REQUIRED OF THOSE NEW HOME CONSTRUCTION.
WE WOULD ALSO STILL RECOMMEND THE REMOVAL OF THOSE LOTS ALONG THE MAIN ENTRANCE DRIVES TO ALLOW THAT ROAD TO SHIFT SO IT IS NOT SO CLOSE TO THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES THERE.
AND OTHER COMMENTS IN THE DEPARTMENT REPORT THAT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO OVER IF NEEDED. AND THERE ARE ABOUT 70 REMAINING PROJECT AND COMMENT DOCS A-- SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND THE COMMITTEE DOES THE CHANGES MADE, AND OTHER REQUESTS OF COMMITTEE MIGHT HAVE AND THEN HAVE THE PROJECT COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH ADDITIONAL REVISIONS TO THE
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P.U.D. THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU. >> OPEN THIS UP TO THE
AGAIN, I DUBBETCHINGS -- DUBBIE SAID BEAUTIFUL AREA.
MY CONCERN IS IT DOES NOT FIT IN THAT AREA.
THAT IS MY CONCERN, IT DOES NOT FIT IN THAT AREA.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THE P.U.D. ITSELF AND I HAVE GENERAL COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROJECT.
THE SETBACK DEFINITION ON PAGE FIVE CONFLICTS WITH EXIST "D" IN THE ORDINANCE SO YOU WILL WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT HAN MAKE SURE IT GETS REVISED. STREET FRONTAGE, THE TABLE ON SECTION FOUR. REQUIRES A MINIMUM STREET FRONTAGE OF 40 FEET BUT SECTION FOUR "C" SAYS DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE FRONTAGE SO THAT CONFLICTS SO THEN I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW BASED ON THE REVISED PLAN HOW MUCH OF THE COMPANY AREA OR 25% IS CONSUMED BY SIDEWALKS, ETC. AND HOW MUCH IS USABLE RECREAT RECREATIONAL SPACE? THOSE ARE THE KEY QUESTIONS. GENERAL DEPENDENT ABOUT THE PROJECT, I ECHO MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE HOMES. I THINK THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL.
I, TOO, STRUGGLE WITH UNDERSTANDING WHY THEY NEED TO GO HERE? I DON'T THINK IT FITS IN THIS AREA. I THINK THESE ARE MUCH MORE DESIGNED FOR OR WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE IN URBAN CORE AS OPPOSED TO SUBURBAN STYLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
JUST A GENERAL CONCERN THAT I HAVE.
I WILL STOP THERE AND LET OTHERS SPEAK.
I HAVE A FEW MORE COMMENTS. >> I WILL FOLLOW UP SINCE WE ARE ON TEXT WITH THE P.U.D. I THINK THE DRAWINGS ARE BEAUTIFUL. THE UPDATED ONES ARE REALLY GORGEOUS. AND YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN CARMEL.
HOWEVER, IF WE DON'T SPELL IT OUT IN THE P.U.D., THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT WILL BE BUILT. I HAVE A QUESTION ON SECTION 2.2 ON ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER IMAGERY.
THE LAST OF THE PARAGRAPH SAYS ALL DWELLINGS WILL COMPLY WITH ARCHITECT, THE STANDARDEN A SHALL BE IN GENERAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE ACT EK TECH -- ARCHITECT, THE CHARACTER IMAGERY. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE YOU WILL GET WHAT THE PICTURES ARE AND I HAVE SEEN THE OTHER EXTREME WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE BUILDINGS WILL SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLY WITH THE IMAGERY WHICH MEANS WE WILL GET WHAT THE PICTURES LOOK LIKE. NOT SURE WHAT GENERAL COMPLIANCE WITH ARCHITECT, THE IMAGERY IS.
SO I GUESS THAT IS SOMETHING I WANT TO -- STAFF REPORT COMMENTS THAT TIGHTEN THAT UP SO THAT -- I MEAN THE DRAWINGS ARE GORGEOUS. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS TIGHTEN TOED UP SOMEHOW. ION.
I WILL DIFFER THAT TO YOU ON THOUSAND HOW TO WORD -- ON HOW TO WORD THAT. THE LANDSCAPED AREAS ON THE STREET TREE, SECTION 6.2, SHADE TREES PLANTED WITHIN THE STRAIGHT RIGHT OF WAY, PARALLEL TO EACH STREET AND PLANTING STRIPS. JUST WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE DRAWING I DON'T KNOW IF HOW MUCH OF A PLANTING STRIP THERE IS. IF THERE IS THREE FEET.
NOT SURE IF YOU CAN -- I MEAN I GUESS THIS GOES BACK TO LANDSCAPING PLAN. WHERE THE TREES ARE PLANTED I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO THRIVE AND GROW AND I'M NOT SURE IF THERE IS ENOUGH ROOM IN THE PLANTING STRIP SO LOOK AT THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURETY -- I DON'T WANT TO GO LIGHT ON PLANTING TREES BUT I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE TEXT AND SEE WHERE IT GOES.
I MEAN THOSE ARE JUST I THINK THE IMPROVEMENT ARE GOOD.
MOVING IN THE RIGHT DISTRIBUTION.
I JUST WAS QUESTIONING MAYBE TIGHTEN UP THE P.U.D. LANGUAGE FOR NOW. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
>> ANYONE ELSE HAVE COMMENTS? >> I WILL CHIME IN.
JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I GUESS I GET THE NOTION THAT THERE'S PHONES THAT LIVE IN THE VILLAGE NEARBY, THATLY SAY PUSH BACK. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CONNECT TO THE VILLAGE. PROBABLY OTHER UNDERLYING REASONS WHETHER IT IS A THE CREEK HERE OR NOT BUT IF THERE
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IS SOME OPPORTUNITY I WILL SAY TO CROSS POLLINATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN THE PERIMETER TRAIL OR AMENITIES CAN CONNECT SO THAT EVERYBODY IN THE AREA CAN USE THIS, IF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DOES COME TO FRUITION, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE CURIOUS ABOUT, INTERESTED IN TO SIG -- TO SEE IF THAT IS SOMEWHAT FEASIBLE. LET'S SEE.ARE ALL OF THE STREETS GOING TO BE PUBLIC OR ALL OF THE ALLIES
>> OK. >> DO THEY ALL DRAIN TO THE POND IS ONE THING I WAS WONDERING.
JUST KIND OF HARD TO TELL. WHAT I'M GETTING IS I SUSPECT ALLIES END UP LOSING CURB. I WANT TO MAKE SURE SURFACE RUN OFF IS HANDLED WELL SO THERE ARE NOT DRAINAGE ISSUES IS THE BROAD WAY OF SAYING IT. YOU CAN LET US KNOW.
>> WE WILL TALK TO THE ENGINEER AND LOOK AT THAT.
>> OK. >> NOT HAVING WALKED ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY LINE, NORTH PROPERTY LINE, I HAVE BEEN BY THIS AREA I WILL SAY 1 MILLION TIMES OVER THE YEARS BUT THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE ON THIS EXHIBIT LOOKS PRETTY BEAR AS FAR AS LANDSCAPING GOES. I SUSPECT IT TO TAP INTO AND CAPITALIZE UPON THE TREE DANCE OTHER GROWTH THAT IS THERE ALONG THE LEGAL DRAIN BUT IF THERE IS WAYS TO JUST MAXIMIZE AND BOLSTER IN PARTICULAR SO THAT AS LEAVES COME DOWN, AND THERE IS FOLKS THAT AREN'T LOOKING INTO EACH OTHER'S BACKYARD, IF THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO MAXIMIZE THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS WELL-RECEIVED.
IF IT IS FEASIBLE. >> WE WILL HAVE TO TALK TO THE COUNTY SURVEYOR TO SEE WHAT IS OR ISN'T ALLOWED BECAUSE IT IS
REGULATED THERE. >> THE ONLY OTHER THOUGHT I HAD BASED ON THE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION IS THERE IS SOME INTERNAL MULTI USE PATH, PATH CONNECTING TO OTHER PARTS OF THE VILLAGE. IF THERE IS JUST A WAY TO BOLSTER SO THAT THE FOLKS THAT DO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THEY DON'T GET CONNECTED UP, THEY CAN GET BACK AND WALK TO THE POND. AND JUST DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGH THE COMMON AREA AND EXPLORE THAT AND SEE IF THAT IS
>> I AGREE WITH MOST PEOPLE UP HERE.
THAT I MEAN THERE ARE DEFINITE IMPROVEMENTS BUT THERE IS STILL A TON OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS HERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ASK FOR WAS A STREET SCAPE VIEW.
I NEED AN UNDERSTANDING WHEN SOMEBODY PULLS IN, WHAT DO WE HAVE? CAN YOU PARK ON THAT STREET? WHAT KIND OF TREES SPACE, ARE THE SIDEWALKS GOING TO BE SIX FEET NOW? THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED I DON'T OW FAR ARE YOU FROM THE NEIGHBORS, THE NEAREST Select to skip to this part of the video">OW FAR ARE YOU FROM THE NEIGHBORS, THE NEAREST
NEIGHBORS NOW? >> WE CAN PROVIDE MEASUREMENTS
AT THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING. >> OK, BECAUSE THAT WAS ASKED.
PRESERVATION PLAN. >> LIGHTING AND NOISE.
ALL THE BASIC THINGS WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
ENG EREN ENGINEERING OF THE POND.
>> THAT IS STILL UNDER REVIEW FROM THE SECOND SUBMISSION.
WE HAVE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HERE WITH US THIS EVENING IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM SPECIFICALLY.
BUT THEY ARE STILL REVIEWING. >> I JUST THINK THERE IS A LOT THAT HASN'T BEEN HAMMERED OUT IN THIS.
FOR A P.U.D. AND CERTAINLY LIKE CHRISTINE SAID, BETTER DESCRIPTIONS OF THE HOMES.
ANYONE TALK ON HOW YOU WILL CROSS MAIN STREET NOW THAT THERE ARE 30 -- MINIMUM 30, MAYBE 60, 90 MORE PEOPLE? WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR OVERFLOW PARKING? HAS THAT BEEN DESIGNED IN? BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS ONLY FOUR SPACES PER HOME. CAN YOU PARK ON THE STREET?
I'M NOT CLEAR WITH THAT. >> OK WE CAN CLARIFY THAT.
>> IT NEEDS QUITE A BIT OF WORK IN MY OPINION.
>> UNDERSTOOD. >> I THINK ONE IF THE BIG IMPROVEMENTS IS THE VARIANCE IN ROOF HEIGHTS AS YOU LOOK DOWN TO THE STREET. IS THROUGH ANYTHING WITH THAT WOULD PREVENT GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL KIND OF CONSTANT FLAT
ROOF LOOK AT THE DESIGN. >> WE HAVE SOME NON-MONOTONY
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LANGUAGE. >> I FEEL LIKE THAT IS A POSITIVE CHANGE FROM THE FIRST MEETING.
>> SINCE WE DO HAVE AN ENGINEER HERE, DO YOU MIND COMING UP HERE AND JUST -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE -- SHOULD SEE THE VERSION WE JUST WERE HANDED A MINUTE AGO BUT JUST YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE REVISED POND AND ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW.
>> OF COURSE. GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSION. ENGINEER PRESCOTT WITH ENGINEERING. WE BELIEVE THE POND IS IN A MORE APPROPRIATE LOCATION NOW. MORE TOWARDS TO THE LOWER PART OF THE SITE TO THE CREEK. WE WERE PROVIDED DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS. WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IN GREAT DETAIL YET. IT WAS PROVIDED YESTERDAY OR TODAY. BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND ANALYZE IF THE POND IS CORRECTLY SIZED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JOHNATHAN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE YOU WANTED TO ADD AT THIS POINT?
>> ANYMORE COMMENTARY OF THE REMOVAL OF THE THREE LOTS AND THEN KIND OF RE-CENTERING THE ROADWAY THERE?
SEEM LIKE A COMMON COMMENT. >> THESE THREE LOT?
>> I BELIEVE IT WAS THE 13, ONE AND TWO.
>> WE WILL GO BACK AND DISCUSS THAT.
LIKE I SAID IN MY PRESENTATION, WE DO THINK THAT BY HAVING LOTS ONE AND 13 HERE, PROVIDES A BOLD ENTRANCE TO THE COMMUNITY, RATHER THAN COMING IN AND SEEING WHAT WOULD BE THE REAR GARAGE OF THIS HOUSE AND THEN ALSO THAT HOUSE.
WE WILL GO BACK AND DISCUSS IT FURTHER.
>> I WILL GET ONE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
RELOCATION TO THE POND TO THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE SITE, SOUND LIKE IT MIGHT BE I WILL SAY BETTER BECAUSE IT IS MAYBE TO THE LOWEST SPOT CLOSE TO THE LEGAL DRAIN.
I GUESS I KEEP STARING AT THIS. WHAT LOOKS ODD IS THERE ISN'T THIS KIND OF GREEN SHADING AROUND THE WEST SIDE.
I'M USED TO BUFFER ON ALL SIDES FOR A DETENTION POND.
IS IT RIGHT UP AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE? DO WE HAVE AN ISSUE? IS THERE A VARIANCE NEEDED TO DROP THE POND IN THAT CLOSE TO THE BORDER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD I GUESS IS WHAT I'M WONDERING AND YOU CAN TELL ME NOW OR LET
ME KNOW. >> I WILL HAVE TO LET YOU KNOW.
I WILL GO BACK TO THE ENGINEER AND HAVE HIM LOOK A BIT HARDER AT THAT. JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S
PLACED CORRECTLY. >> DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION? THIS EVENING ON THIS DOCKET.
>> DO WE NEED A MOTION TO CONTINUE ONTO THE NEXT
COMMITTEE MEETING OR NOT? >> SO MOVED.
>> SO MOVED AND SECOND WE FORWARD THIS TO THE OCTOBER 6TH COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
>> AYE. >> OPPOSED? WE WILL SEE YOU BACK OCTOBER
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