Nov 01, 2021 City Council Meeting 11-01-21

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. KNOWING THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM I'M CALLING THE CARMEL CITY COUNSEL MEETING TO ORDER THIS EVENING FOR MY DATE NOVEMBER 1. WELCOME, I LOVE TO

[2. AGENDA APPROVAL]

>> MADAM PRESIDENT. >> SIR? >> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION WE

APPROVE 11 K TO 5C. >> I WILL SUCK THAT MOTION. >> THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING ON WE WILL TAKE A VOTE TO AMEND. WE HAVE TO DO, WHERE ONE MEMBER PARTICIPATING TONIGHT REMOTELY. WE ARE GOING TO DO A VOICE VOTE ON EVERY ONE OF OUR ITEMS TONIGHT LIKE WE DID A COUPLE OF MEETINGS TO GO. FIRST ] GREAT, THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN AMENDED. WITH THE COUNCIL PERMISSION WILL PROVE IT. THANK YOU. ITEM 3 IS INVOCATION. WE HAVE WITH US

[3. INVOCATION]

PASTOR LUTHER BURNETT FROM THE CORNERSTONE CHURCH. >> THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE. 118 VERSE ONE SAYS GIVE THANKS TO THE LORD FOR HIS GOOD AND HIS MERCY AND YOURS FOREVER. WE PRAY WITH ME. LORD WE GIVE THANKS FOR THE BLESSINGS YOU GIVE TO US AND ESPECIALLY THIS FALL. JUST THE BEAUTY OF CREATION AROUND US. DURING THIS MONTH OF THANKSGIVING WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL GRANT US RIGHTFUL HEARTS FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. WE PRAISE YOU FOR ALL THE PUBLIC SERVANTS, LOCAL, STATE, NATIONAL, AND WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL ENABLE THEM TO GOVERN WITH HUMILITY AND RESPECT FOR THE WELFARE OF ALL CITIZENS. LORD, KEEP OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND OUR POLICE SAFE, THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, ALL WHO SERVE IN OUR COUNTRY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. ESPECIALLY HERE IN CARMEL. LORD, THANK YOU FOR OUR SCHOOLS. WE PRAY THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE INSTRUMENTS OF LEARNING, ADMINISTRATORS, TEACHERS, PARENTS, STUDENTS ARE WORKING TO THAT GOOD. FINALLY LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR OUR COUNSEL MEETING THIS EVENING. GUESS SUCH A BLESSING UPON NOT ONLY OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS BUT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PARTICIPATING, THOSE PRESENTERS THAT YOU WILL GIVE US GUIDANCE

[4. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

>> THANK YOU. PLEASE JOIN US FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[5. RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS]

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT UP ON OUR AGENDA'S RECORDATION OF CITY EMPLOYEES. AN OUTSTANDING CITIZENS. FIRST IS A SWEARING IN OF OUR NEW CARMEL POLICE OFFICERS. WE ARE WITH

US OUR WONDERFUL CHIEF. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. >> THE GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, JIM BARLOW, CHIEF OF POLICE. A PLAN TO BE HERE AGAIN TONIGHT WITH 8 NEW GREAT HIRES. I KNOW THE NATIONAL ÃIS ABOUT BEING HARD TO GET POLICE OFFICERS RIGHT NOW. I WANT TO TELL YOU, BUT THE QUALITY OF THESE 8 THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN TONIGHT WE WILL BE IN GOOD SHAPE MOVING IN THE FUTURE. I WILL CALL EACH ONE UP. ANGELA PARCELL. ANGELA COMES FROM US FROM THE INDIANA GAMING COMMISSION. ISAIAH SWEAT, ISAIAH IS RECENTLY LEFT THE MARINE CORPS AS A SERGEANT.

MASON HOKE. MASON IS A TRANSFER FROM ANDERSON POLICE DEPARTMENT. CG SEEN COMES FROM US FROM NEW YORK CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT. CORY POWERS COMES FROM FLORIDA AS A POLICE OFFICER. JOHN FIKE. WAS A POLICE OFFICER IN THE INDIANA UNIVERSITY. FIONA SALINAS.

COMMISSIONER OF THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, BRIAN DAVIS AND HE IS A CONTRACT PILOT WITH A PRIVATE TRANSPORT COMPANY. SO, WE WILL SWEAR THE MEN.

>> ALL RIGHT. I, STATE YOUR NAME. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE

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TO CARMEL. [APPLAUSE] >> >> FOR THE FAMILIES OF THE OFFICER SWORN IN TONIGHT. WE WILL TAKE A GROUP PHOTO HERE. THIS IS YOUR TIME TO CROWD THE AISLES AND COME ON UP, KNEEL IN FRONT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. IT'S YOUR NIGHT. .

>>APPLAUSE] >>ALL RIGHT MOVING ON WITH THE ADDRESS THE AGENDA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. RALPH ITEM 5 BEATON'S RECORDATION OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEE VETERANS. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW MEMBERS OF OUR CITY TEAM THAT AREN'T SERVING IN THE MILITARY OR WERE OR HAVE SERVED AND ARE NOW VETERANS. WE HAVE 2 OF VERY OWN THAT ARE VETERANS FROM TH SKY CITY COUNCIL. TO GET THIS OFF I LIKE TO INTRODUCE TIM HANNON AS OUR CITY COUNCILMAN AT LARGE.

>> THINK IT PRESIDENT THEY COME. THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF VETERANS. CITY DOES A WONDERFUL JOB EVERY YEAR WITH HER ANNUAL TRIBUTE TO VETERANS. THIS YEAR IT'S ON NOVEMBER 10 AT NOON. I WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT. IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH PRESIDENT PINKHAM AS WELL AS TONY ÃWE WANT TO DO MORE THIS YEAR AND FOR VETERANS AS WELL. IMPORTANT STUFF TO POINT OUT 76

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THE MILITARY THAT I CERTAINLY LIVED IN WAS DIFFERENT FROM MY FATHER'S MILITARY FROM KOREAN WAR AND MY SOUTHERN AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW SERVING A DIFFERENT MILITARY THAT AREN'T SERVED AND 9 YEARS AGO WHEN I RETIRED. THE FLEX ABILITY AND CONTINUOUS EXPERIENCE IN TECHNOLOGY AND GLOBALIZATION ALSO COME WITH EVERY VETERAN THAT YOU BE FORTUNATE TO HIRE.

LAST THING IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, IT COLORS ALL PROCEEDING, STRONG PERSONAL INTEGRITY IS A HALLMARK OF BOTH ENTRANCE INTO THE MILITARY CONTINUED ADVANCEMENT IN THE MILITARY. THOSE COMPONENTS I THINK ARE ALL WHY EVERY EMPLOYER WOULD FIT FROM HIRING MORE VETERANS. IN ANY INDUSTRY VIRTUALLY. I MENTIONED A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS. ON NOVEMBER 10 AT NOON AS ANNUAL Ã PROGRAM. SALUTING TO VETERANS AT THE TARKINGTON. ALSO SPECIAL THIS YEAR IS ON NOVEMBER 8 WHICH IS MONDAY AT 1 PM. THE CITY OF CARMEL ALONG WITH THE ÃÃCLUB DEDICATING GOLDSTAR FAMILIES MEMORIAL. GOLDSTAR FAMILIES ARE THOSE THAT HAVE LOST A MILITARY MEMBER ON ACTIVE DUTY. SO THIS IS PARTICULARLY TO ME I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE A BIG DEAL AND VERY LOUD AND PROUD THAT CARMEL IS DOING THAT DEDICATION AS I SAID IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GARDEN CLUB AT 1 PM AT THE GAZEBO AT CITY CENTER.

FINALLY, NO MENTION IN PASSING THAT IN THE WORKS IS A DEDICATION OF 2 EVENTS FOR VETERAN ISSUES. MORE COME ON THAT BUT I'M GLAD WERE GETTING THAT ROLE. I'LL PASS IT BACK

TO YOU PRESIDENT FINKAM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TIM

WILL YOU SHORT WHAT YOU DID IN THE MILITARY. >> YEAH, I WAS AN 80 FLIGHT SERVANT. I FLEW AIRCRAFT CARRIERS WORKABLE TOURS ON A TRAIN AS ANESTHESIOLOGIST AND SPENT THE REST MY TIME ON ACTIVE DUTY IN THE RESERVES AS ANESTHESIOLOGIST PICK.

>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT AND YOU'RE WELCOME FOR PUTTING ON THE SPOT. NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNSELOR GREEN. HE HAS A PROCLAMATION TO READ AND ASSURE WHAT HIS MILITARY DUTY

INCLUDED. >> THANKS MADAM PRESIDENT. I SERVED 14 YEARS IN THE AIR FORCE AS A AIR FORCE PILOT. LAST 19 YEARS IN THE RESERVE AND THE GARDEN AS A JUDGE ADVOCATE. ALL RIGHT, YOU CAN FOLLOW THE SLIDES SHOW TO PICTURES I'M NOT JUST THE 76 BUT SYMPTOM 79 CITY EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE MILITARY OR ARE SERVING IN THE MILITARY.

I ALSO APPRECIATE WHEREAS, THE CITY OF CARMEL HAS WORKED HARD TO PAY HONOR TO ART MILITARY

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OCCASION SIGNED JIM BRAINARD, MARY. [APPLAUSE] >> ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?

COUNSELOR GREEN QUICK. P>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYONE ELSE?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU JACOB FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THE SLIDESHOW OF ALL OF OUR STATE EMPLOYEES. IT'S REALLY NICE AND I APPRECIATE IT. NEXT UP ON THE AGENDA IS 5C. OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS HERE WITH A PRESENTATION. THANK YOU TONIGHT AND BEING HERE ALL YOUR

PREPARATION. >> GOOD EVENING DENT FINKAM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF ALL CARMEL FIREFIGHTERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR NEWEST PROGRESSIVE LIFESAVING INITIATIVE IN THE CITY OF CARMEL. WE BELIEVE WE ARE ONE OF THE FIRST IF NOT THE FIRST IN AMERICA TO TAKE ON SUCH COMPREHENSIVE BLEEDING CONTROL PROGRAM. THE CITYWIDE APPROACH WILL SAVE LIVES THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE SUPPORT OF MAYOR BRAINARD, THIS CARMEL COUNSEL CARMEL CARMEL TOWNSHIP GOVERNMENT, THE CARMEL CLAY SCHOOLS AND IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE HELP OF MANY, MANY COMMUNITY PARTNERS FOR THIS PROGRAM. CHIEF ALBERTSON WILL COME UP AND HE WILL PRESENTMUCH OF THE PROGRAM HERE AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS TO MAKE SURE WE WALK THROUGH WITH

YOU. CHIEF HALVERSON? >> GOOD EVENING. WERE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. THIS PROGRAM WAS BORN REALLY FROM SOME CONVERSATIONS PROBABLY 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO AT A EMS CHIEFS CONVENTION. THE STATE WAS ROLLING OUT THERE BLEEDING CONTROL PROGRAM AND FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO PUT A KIT IN EACH SCHOOL AND HAVE UP TO 5 TRAINED PROVIDERS EACH OF THE SCHOOLS.

THAT'S A GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WHAT MAKES THIS PROGRAM UNIQUELY CARMEL IS IT'S AN EXTENSION OF THAT PROGRAM. WE REALIZE THAT WHEN A BUNCH OF THE SCHOOLS ARE MOVING TOWARDS A SHELTER IN PLACE PHILOSOPHY. WE COULD ENVISION WITHOUT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF SOMEONE IN YOUR PARTICULAR CLASSROOM NEEDED A KIT AND THERE WAS ONE KIT AT A SCHOOL OF THE SIZE OF CARML HIGH SCHOOL THAT SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND GET. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, SOMEONE CAN BLEED OUT IN LESS THAN 5 MINUTES IF THERE IS NO INTERVENTION. THE AVERAGE RESPONSE OF THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY OUR TARGET RESPONSES OVER 6 MINUTES. WE REALIZE THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO BETTER. ADDITIONALLY AS PUBLIC HEALTH ADVOCATES WE WANTED TO TAKE THIS PROGRAM EVEN A LITTLE FARTHER, REALLY SIGNIFICANT FARTHER. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE SCHOOLS. THE DEPTH AND THE

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THAT'S IMPACTING YOUR COMMUNITY WHEN YOU CAN REDUCE THOSE PREVENTABLE DEATHS. I'D LIKE YOU TO PLEASE WATCH THIS QUICK VIDEO SUMMARY OF OUR NEW TRAINING KIOSK PC BACK HERE IN THE BACK. AS WE CONTINUE THIS AND OTHER COMMUNITY HEALTH CARE INITIATIVES, PUBLIC EDUCATION AND OUTREACH WILL REMAIN CORNERSTONES OF WHAT OUR MOTION IS HERE. THANK YOU.

>> WEARS MORGAN? [LAUGHTER]. . WELL, >> OKAY THIS IS MURPHY'S LAW AT ITS BEST. WE AT 4:30 THIS AFTERNOON WE CAME OVER TO MAKE SURE IT WORKED AND IT WORKED 77 TIMES. IT WORKED AGAIN AT 5 AND NOW WERE ON THE BIG STAGE AND WE WILL TRY THIS MORNING

MORE TIME. THANKS FOR TAKING SOME OF THE HEAT. >> SO BASICALLY WE HAVE OUR KITS HERE. THE KIDS ARE STRATEGICALLY PLACED THROUGHOUT CARMEL AS WE TALKED ABOUT.

WITHIN THE KITS THERE IS AN INSERT WHICH WILL YOU WILL SEE HER IN A SECOND TO EXPLAIN HOW

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SO BASICALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN THIS IS WHAT WE USE FOR TRAINING.

>> THE CAT HARRIET HOME. >> GOT SHIELD. AN ATTORNEY BOARD WE'VE GOT THE COP TOP CONTAINERS THEY HAVE THE AVERAGE AMOUNT OF HUMAN BOARD ON THE BODY. BOTH JEFF ON THE LEFT SIDE. ON THE BRIGHT SIDE WE HAVE LIPSEY DAISY. BOTH WILL EXPERIENCE A LIFE-THREATENING INJURY THAT CAUSES UNCONTROLLED BLEEDING. WE WILL IF THE CONTENTS OF THE KIT OUT AND PUT A TOURNIQUET ON. THEN YOU WILL SEE HOW THE BLEEDING. ON ONE. IT'S A PVISUALIZATION TO HELP UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF HAVING A BLEEDING CONTROL KIT READILY AVAILABLE. IT SHOWS YOU IN THE VIDEO AND IT HAS AWESOME MUSIC TO IT. IT'S REALLY AMAZING. I CAN TRY TO SING IT. [LAUGHTER]. THEN WE HAVE THE TIME. ONCE THE ACCIDENT HAPPENS THEN I'M A ONE CALL WILL BE MADE. LIKE JOHN SAID 6 AND A HALF MINUTES IS OUR GOAL FOR WHEN WE WILL GET ON THE SCENE. I APOLOGIZE THAT IT DIDN'T WORK TODAY. [LAUGHTER].

>> WE WILL HAVE REALLY APPRECIATED THE SONG AND DANCE. I'M A LIE. THAT WOULD'VE BEEN FUN. CAN WE PUT THAT VIDEO ONLINE OR IS IT ONLINE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE SOMEWHERE? QUICK

SOCKET WITH A PIO'S. >> TO SHARE ON YOUR SOCIAL PAGES. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> THIS WAS CAPTAIN ANDREW YOUNG. HE AND CHIEF HALVERSON ARE THE ADMINISTRATIVE PEOPLE IN OUR MS DIVISION. THEY DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB. IT WAS THEIR BRAIN CHILD FOR US TO TAKE A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH AND SO I DO WANT TO GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR THE HARD WORK THEY PUT IN. THE KIOSK DISPLAY THEY PUT TOGETHER, ANDREW DID A WONDERFUL JOB EXPLAINING THAT.

THERE'S ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM HE DIDN'T MENTION. OH CHILD WITHIN 5 MINUTES WILL COMPLETELY BLEED OUT. SO IT'S A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF HOW IMPORTANT THESE KITS ARE AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO HAVE A TOURNIQUET AVAILABLE. MANY PEOPLE, THE AVERAGE PERSON ON THE STREET SAYS I WILL TAKE MY BELT OFF AND I WILL PUT IT ON AND I WILL SAVE SOME OF HIS LIFE. AND IT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THAT. SO THE TOURNIQUET SAVES LIVES. THE TOURNIQUET IS THE MAIN PIECE IN THIS PROGRAM. IN ADDITION TO THE STEP-BY-STEP VISUAL CARD THAT SENATE AND THE QR CODE WE BELIEVE IS CUTTING EDGE AND IT WILL, IT IS A FORCE MULTIPLIER IN OUR COMMUNITY. THIS PACKET WILL SAVE LIVES. IT GOES BEYOND JUST, IT COULD BE CUTS, IT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR MANY, MANY REASONS. AT THIS TIME I WANT TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS. WITHOUT OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO DO WITH THE PROGRAM WITH US WE COULDN'T GET THESE PLACED. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE A FEW PICTURES.

I THINK THERE'S 48 IN THE SLIDESHOW. DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND ACTUALLY HAVE THESE KITS.

OF THE 48 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ONLY ONE OF THEM AS CARMEL SCHOOLS. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF PLACES IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THESE. SOME OF OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE WORKING WITH US ON THE PROGRAM, CARMEL POLICE DEPARTMENT. IF YOU WOULD STAND UP OR GIVE A BIG WAVE WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME. CHIEF BARLOW HERE. CHIEF HIS EVENING. CARMEL CLAY PARKS, MICHAEL ÃIS HERE THIS EVENING. CARMEL STREET APARTMENT, OUR NEWLY APPOINTED STREET COMMISSIONER, WELL, HIT THEM BOTH THEM. LOOK AMOUNT. CARMEL UTILITIES, JOHN DUFFY.

OUR LADY OF MOUNT CARMEL, CHURCH AND PRESCHOOLS REPRESENTED BY PRINCIPAL TIM FLETCHER. UNIVERSITY HIGH SCHOOL. DAVE VESPER. DIRECTOR OF KEDRIC CARE MARLENA WATSON.

DANCE CLUB, CHUCK BERRY. PRIME LIFE ENRICHMENT CENTER REPRESENTED BY JULIE I BELIEVE IS HERE. HI JULIE. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. CARMEL CLAY SCHOOLS. THEY ARE A KEY PARTNER IN MAKING THIS PROGRAM WORK. AS IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THERE ARE 1200 PLACED THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY IN A CARMEL CLAY SCHOOLS. EVERY SCHOOL BUS IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS A BLEEDING CONTROL KIT. FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE THIS IS THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM WE ARE AWARE OF IN THE UNITED STATES. SUPER PROUD OF IT. THIS TIME I WANT TO INTRODUCE DAVID WOODWARD. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE DAVID. DAVID IS A DIRECTOR OF STUDENT SERVICES FOR CARMEL CLAY SCHOOLS AND HE IS GOING TO JUST SAY A FEW WORDS IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.

THANKS DAVID. >> YEAH, MY NAME IS DAVID WOODWARD DIRECTOR OF STUDENT SERVICES. ON BEHALF OF CLAY CARMEL SCHOOLS I WANT TO EXPRESS GREAT GRATITUDE TO

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GRATEFUL FOR WHAT THIS GROUP HAS DONE. SO THANK YOU. >> HEY CHIEF WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THE HANDSOME GENTLEMAN IN UNIFORM AND ALL THE SLIDES.

>> WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE SLIDES THAT WOULD BE CHIEF JOHN MORIARTY. THEY CUTE CHIEF MORIARTY. HE'S BEEN BUSY OUT GETTING THE BLEEDING CONTROL KITS DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. WE APPRECIATE HIM. HE'S A TREASURE TO OUR ORGANIZATION AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY. AT THIS POINT IN TIME I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. IF THE COUNCIL HAS

ANY. >> COUNCIL? >> THEY ARE YOURS, YES. NEXT I WOULD SAY ONE THING. OUR JOB IS TO BE PREPARED. THAT'S WHY FIRST RESPONDERS EXIST IS TO BE PREPARED. THE GOAL WITH THESE KIDS AND WE'VE USED THE WORD A COUPLE OF TIMES, FORCED MULTIPLIER. IF SOMEONE NEEDS THESE KITS THEY ARE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS SIMPLY, WE TURN A BYSTANDER INTO A FIRST RESPONDER APPEARED THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH THIS PROGRAM. WE'VE TRIED TO ENSURE THAT WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS ACTUALLY SOUTH OF THE PROGRAM OR NOT, ALMOST EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS A CELL PHONE. YOU'RE ABLE TO GET A STEP-BY-STEP INSTRUCTION. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CELL PHONE YOU CAN TURN THE CARD OVER ONCE YOU OPEN THE KIT AND IT WILL WALK YOU THROUGH HOW TO APPLY THE TOURNIQUET. SO, WE ARE SUPER PROUD OF THIS. WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF THE CARMEL CITY COUNCIL. WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND ALL OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS. IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS OR YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO SEE THE VIDEO PLAY GOING INTO THE CARCASS FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORIES HERE. AND SOME OF HER PARTNERS ARE ALSO GOING TO COME WITH US. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A STICK AROUND TO THE END OF THE MEETING WERE HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL. IF YOU WANT TO PUT A TOURNIQUET ON YOU WILL JOE AND BOOPSIE DAISY YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY COME AND PRESENT

THE SOFT EVENING. >> CHIEF THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOUR ENTIRE TEAM TO GET THESE ON THE COMMUNITY. IT'S INTOLERABLE. WE WILL HEAR ABOUT THEM IMPACT AT SOME POINT. FROM SOMEONE'S LIFE TO WITH SAVE. IF WE COULD APPROACH WITH SOMEONE WANTING ONE OF THESE BLEEDING CONTROL KITS FOR THAT BUSINESS OR SOMETHING, WHO DO WE TURN THEM

OVER TO? >> CAN CONTACT US AT 317 Ã571 Ã2600. WHICH IS A HEADQUARTERS LINE. THE STRATEGIC APPROACH WE'VE TAKEN TO THIS PROGRAM IS THAT IF IT'S A NONPROFIT OR GATHERING PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY WE HAVE PROVIDED THOSE KIDS FREE. IF IT'S FOR-PROFIT COMPANY WE CAN MAKE THESE AVAILABLE TO THEM AT A VERY AFFORDABLE COST. WE WILL SELL THEM AT WHAT IT COST THE COMMUNITY TO BUY THEM. WERE HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL.

I'M NOT SURE WE'VE GOT A WEBSITE SET UP. THAT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL IDEA. WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S ON ALL OF THE CITY LOCATIONS AND SO IT WILL BE ON THE CITY WEBSITE. IF YOU WANT TO REACH US THROUGH EMAIL YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT AS WELL. OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICERS HERE THIS EVENING. HE WOULD ASK YOU TO FOLLOW US ON ALL SOCIAL MEDIA, INSTAGRAM, FACEBOOK, PLEASE LIKE US AND SHARE AND HOPEFULLY I DID JUSTICE TO THAT.

>> YEAH. >> HEY TIM, COME TO THE MICROPHONE.

>> THIS IS FIREFIGHTER TIM GRIFFIN. HERE'S ONE OF OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICERS THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT . HE AND MICHAEL MCNEALY DO A WONDERFUL JOB HELPING PROMOTE ALL THE

GREAT THINGS WE'RE DOING IN OUR COMMUNITY. TIM? >> YEAH, THANK YOU. THIS WAS

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PEOPLE KNOW THAT TO REACH OUT TO US IN HOPES TO FOLLOW THAT. >> THANK YOU CHIEF GOOD TO HAVE

ANYTHING TO ADD? >> COULD ALSO VISIT BLEEDING CONTROL.ORG IS AN OFFICIAL SITE IF YOU WANT TO GET THE KIT OUTSIDE OF THIS PROGRAM OR IF YOU'RE IN A DIFFERENT

COMMUNITY. THAT'S YOUR RESOURCE. >> GREAT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU

JOHN, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> MADAM PRESIDENT? >> SIR?

>> I WANTED TO JUMP IN AND CONGRATULATE THE MS ON THIS. ACTUALLY BEFORE I WAS ON COUNSEL STARTING UP CONVERSATIONS WITH CHIEF ALVERSON AND CAPTAIN YOUNG ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. I'M VERY GLAD WERE ADVANCING IT. I THINK IT'S THE INNOVATIVE THINGS THAT HAPPEN HERE THAT HAVE COME OUT OF NECESSITY. ONE OF THEM IS CHIEF ALVERSON WAS TALKING ABOUT SIMPLY PUTTING 4 OR 5 KIDS IN A SCHOOL BY CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL AND IN A LOCKDOWN SITUATION. HOPING THAT WILL SAVE LIVES SIMPLY DIDN'T WORK. THE INNOVATION OF TO SAY WERE TO HAVE ONE IN EVERY SINGLE CLASSROOM. WERE ALSO GOING TO FIND WAYS TO DO THIS ORGANICALLY AND CUT THE COST OF THESE WITHOUT CUTTING QUALITY. I THINK IS ALSO EXTRAORDINARY. I DON'T ORIGINALLY I THINK LAST SPRING AND THEN SOMETHING GOT IN THE WAY. I'M GLAD TO SEE IT ROLLED OUT AND I THINK THE BOOPSIE DAISY AND OCHOA HAVE COME THROUGH THAT COVID CRISIS HERE IS A GREAT TRAINING. I WANT TO ADD MY CONGRATULATIONS AND FULL

SUPPORT FOR THE PROGRAM. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MAY I QUIT.

>> ON MY COURSE AT VOICE COMING FROM? >> OH SORRY. I STUCK AROUND.

>> I APPRECIATE COUNSELORS HANAN COMMENTS AND WE APPRECIATE THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS PARTNERSHIP HAS BEEN WITH ALL THE AGENCIES THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. WE STARTED THIS PROGRAM QUITE A WHILE AGO. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME PUBLICLY WE'VE ROLLED THEM OUT. THAT WAS FOR OBVIOUS REASONS WITH THE PANDEMIC AND ETC. WE DO NOT LET THESE KIDS SIT IN A WAREHOUSE OR IN A BOX. THEY WERE DISTRIBUTED AS SOON AS THEY CAME IN. THIS PROGRAM AND L4 FACT IN CARMEL CLAY SCHOOLS. AT LAST MADE THEY WERE DISTRIBUTED. THEY WERE ALL PLACED AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN EACH OF THE SCHOOLS THEY ARE LOCATED IN THE EXACT SAME LOCATION OR AS CLOSE AS WE CAN GET SO THE KIDS KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. THE TEACHERS KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. THE SUBSTITUTES NUMBER THEY ARE. THE PEOPLE IN THOSE BUILDINGS KNOW WHERE TO GO AND FIND ONE. I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT. AND, AGAIN WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR US. YOU ARE A PARTNER WITH FIRST RESPONDERS AND YOUR SUPPORT IS INVALUABLE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER COMMAS BY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM?

>> MADAM PRESIDENT? >> .LOOKS LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THERE WAS AN ITEM LEFT OFF THE AGENDA AND MICAH MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A 5D WHICH WOULD BE PROCLAMATION FOR NOVEMBER BEING

HINDU MONTH. >> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE PLEASE VOTE ON THIS ADD-ON. COUN

[6. RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL]

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WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THINK IT. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO URGE YOUR APPROVAL FOR THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS WHICH RELATES WERE JUST STARTING TONIGHT. I WOULD NUMBER D 2606 Ã21. THE ORDINANCE THAT CONCERNS SAFETY AND NEIGHBORHOOD EQUITY HERE IN THE CITY OF CARMEL. WE'VE FOUND THAT WE HAVE A VERY SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUE WITH CARS PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS NEAR OUR SCHOOLS. I LIVED VERY NEAR CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL. MY WIFE AND I ARE AFFECTED DRAMATICALLY. SO SOON TURN NEIGHBORHOOD. VEHICLES FOR OUR TREMENDOUS FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER SAFETY VEHICLES SIMPLY CANNOT GET DOWN THE STREET UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE ARE NOW FACED WITH. ALSO, I PERSONALLY SEEN THAT OUR TERRIFIC CARMEL EMPLOYEES ONE OF WHOM I DON'T KNOW BUT HE DRIVES THE STREET SWEEPER. COULDN'T COME DOWN THE STREET AND ESSENTIAL CITY SERVICES WHICH WE AND OF COURSE ALL OTHER TAXPAYERS PAY FOR SHOULD NOT BE DENIED BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY TO PREVENT THIS KIND OF I'M GOING TO CALL IT, A CLUTTERED PARKING SITUATION. I

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THAT CARMEL RESIDENTS DESERVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH JEFF.

NEXT UP IS JR, IS IT SENT OUT ACER? OKAY. HE'S HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT DIWALI.

>> YEAH, NAMASTE EVERYONE. NAMASTE IS AN INDIAN AND HINDU GREETING. IT MEANS THE DIVINITY IN ME BOWS THE DIVIDING INDIA. WE FEEL EVERYONE IS DEFINED IN THIS UNIVERSE. THAT'S WHAT WE FEEL. GET MANY MISS JR. I'M A REGULAR PERSON EXERCISE IN CARMEL. I LIVED IN CARMEL HAS BEEN HOME FOR THE LAST 22 YEARS FOR ME. MY WIFE IS HERE AS AN A SON WHO GOES TO CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL AS MY DAUGHTER COULD ARGUE HERE. THE MAIN REASON I'M HERE IS TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT OUR DIWALI FESTIVAL WHICH IS COMING UP ON NOVEMBER 4. DIWALI INVOKES THE EMOTION OF HAPPINESS, LOVE AND BOUNTIFUL GIVING AND RECEIVING.

WERE GOING TO CHANNEL THAT BOUNTIFUL GIVING IN THE FORM OF SOMETHING CALLED SO FAR. IT'S A SANSKRIT WORD MEAN SELFLESS SERVICE. SO SAVE DIWALI. DURING OUR FESTIVE SEASON WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING CALLED Ã DIWALI FOR DRIVABLE TO DONATE IT TO 3 DIFFERENT CHARITIES HERE LOCALLY IN TOWN. I SHOULD NOT SAY CHARITIES 3 DIFFERENT BENEFICIARIES. ONE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS IN INDIANAPOLIS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION OR NOT. ANOTHER ONE IS FDS HEADSTART PROGRAM. PRIMARILY ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE ALL THESE BENEFICIARIES DEAL WITH THE FOOT INSECURITIES WHICH ARE CAUSED BY COVID. AS YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN UNRELENTING FOR THE LAST 18 MONTHS. LAST YEAR DURING THE SIMILAR TIME BUT WE HAVE DONE IS WE HAVE RAISED CLOSE TO 9900 DOLLARS AND WE'VE DONATED TO FOOD PANTRIES THIS WAS THE YEAR 2022. THIS YEAR WERE TARGETING TO BRING THAT UP HIGHER. SO 20 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THERE CALLED KARMIC TRADITIONS WHICH ARE HINDUISM, BUDDHISM, SIKHISM AND JAINISM. THESE 4 ARE CALLED KARMIC CONDITIONS. THERE ARE 20 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS FROM THOSE TRADITIONS. THEY ARE JOINED TOGETHER IN THIS FESTIVE TIME TO GIVE IT BACK TO THE COMMUNITIES. MY HUMBLE REQUEST TO ALL THE FELLOW CITY COUNCILMAN IS WERE GOING TO DO THIS ON THE 14TH, 15TH AND 16TH. IF YOUR APARTMENTS CAN JOIN US WE APPRECIATE TO SHOW THE INFORMATION WILL HIM WILL MAIL IT TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS THAT WILL BE GOOD ON HER TO HAVE Y'ALL THERE. AND THE SECOND ONE WAS WE REALLY APPRECIATE I ONLY HAVE 26 8 SECONDS. WE APPRECIATE OCTOBER AS A HINDU HERITAGE MONTH. AS PROBABLY OUR CARMEL CITY CHIEF SAYS GOOD HINDU POPULATION IS GROWING EXPONENTIALLY IN THE CITY OF CARMEL. CARMEL HAS BEEN A WELCOMING PLACE FOR ALL THE FAITHS INCLUDING HINDU. WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION OF OCTOBER AS HINDU HERITAGE MONTH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR SUPPORT AND OUR CONTINUED EFFORTS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN A SELFLESS MANNER GOING

FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

FANTASTIC PRESENTATION. NEXT UP IS DARCY WADE. DARCY IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT D 20 6606

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21. >> GOOD EVENING COUNCILMEMBERS. MY HUSBAND AND I WE LIVED AT 305 THIRD AVENUE NORTHEAST. RECENTLY JUST MOVED IN IN JUNE. I HAVE I THINK TODAY I THINK THE PARKING ISSUE DEFINITELY WOULD'VE MAYBE BEEN A CONSIDERATION MAYBE NOT TO BUY HER CURRENT HOME. IN THE MORNING THERE ARE CARS PARKED IN FRONT OF OUR HOME ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. I REALLY DON'T GET SO MUCH ONTO SECOND AVENUE TO SEE IF IT'S AN ISSUE.

OF HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS IT IS. I THINK IT'S MORE PREVALENT ON THIRD AVENUE. THEN IN THE AFTERNOON AND SOMEWHAT WORSE. THERE ARE CARS THAT IT APPEARS OUR PARENTS PICKING UP STUDENTS. AND THEN IN ADDITION STUDENTS CARS THEY'VE DROPPED OFF IN THE MORNING. THEY'RE COMING BACK TO. GET THE CARS TO LEAVE TO GO HOME. IT'S UNSAFE. I HAVE PICTURES THAT I TOOK JUST FRIDAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO PASS THEM TO YOU. THIS IS A PICTURE OF MY

VEHICLE GOING DOWN. >> HOW COULD WE GET THE CAMERA ON AND WE BOTH JUST LANDED UP

THERE SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT. >> OKAY. SO THIS IS MY VEHICLE GOING DOWN THERE AND AVENUE TRYING TO GET TO MY HOME. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE VEHICLES ON THE RIGHT AND ON THE LEFT.

SOME OF THESE VEHICLES SOMETIMES HAVE REFUSED TO MOVE WHEN I HAVE SEEN OTHER VEHICLES THAT ARE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRYING TO GET TO THEIR HOME. IT'S UNSAFE.

LUCKILY WHEN WE MOVED IN WE HAD A LOT OF REMODELING THAT WE DID TO WHERE WE HAD TREES REMOVED IN OUR BACKYARD AND THERE WERE 3 WORK VEHICLES, TREE REMOVAL TRUCKS. THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WHEN SCHOOL WAS IN SESSION. AGAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S UNSAFE. GIVE KIDS WALKING DOWN THE STREET. THERE'S NOT A SIDEWALK ON OUR SIDE OF THE STREET. I BELIEVE THERE'S A SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER THAT'S UNSAFE FOR KIDS TO WALK DOWN THE STREET. UNSAFE FOR CARS TRYING TO GET AROUND. TRYING TO GET TO THE DRIVEWAY. THIS NEXT PICTURE, AGAIN I TOOK FRIDAY. THE GREENHOUSE IS OUR HOUSE. KIND OF CAN TELL THE WHITE CAR IS EVEN BLOCKING SOME OF OUR DRIVEWAY. I HAVE 2 KIDS THAT ARE IN COLLEGE. ONE LIVES AT HOME AND GOES TO IP WHY. HE GOES IN AND OUT TO WHERE EVEN HE HAS SAID IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE FOR HIM TO GET OUT TO GO TO SCHOOL. ALSO HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT GOENIVERSITY. IF SHE COME EARLY ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON SHE WOULD HAVE TO PARK HER CAR PROBABLY 4 OR 5 SPOTS DOWN FROM WHERE OUR FRONT DOOR IS. THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE. THIS IS A WHITE CAR THAT PARKS PRETTY MUCH EVERY OTHER DAY OR EVERY DAY IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE. THIS IS A PICTURE OF PRETTY MUCH IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.

YOU CAN SEE AT THE VERY END IS A RED PICKUP. THAT'S MY WORK PICKUP TRUCK I HAD TO PARK WAY DOWN THE STREET. I DO YARD SIGNS FOR LIVING. I COULDN'T EVEN GET IT CLOSE TO MY HOUSE TO UNLOAD MY VEHICLE. IT IS A NUISANCE FOR A LOT OF NEIGHBORS. LIKE I SAID IT'S HARD TO GET SERVICE VEHICLES. I'VE SEEN TRASH PICKUP VEHICLES HAVE ISSUES TRYING TO GET THE TRASH. AND MAINLY IT'S UNSAFE. I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE SUPPORT ORDINANCE D2606 Ã21. THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE VISUALS AS WELL. NEXT AND

LAST IS SUE MACKEY. REGARDING THE SAME SUBJECT. >> GOOD EVENING I'M SUE MACKEY.

I LIVED AT 317 SECOND AVENUE NORTHEAST. I'VE LIVED AT THAT ADDRESS FOR 8 YEARS AND THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT THIS PROBLEM HAS BEEN THAT PREVAILING WITH THE PAKING.

IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TIME CHANGE OF THE SCHOOLS. THE LEADER START AND THAT AS WELL AS THE LACK OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE SCHOOL.

SO, WHAT HIT'S HAPPENING IS THE STUDENTS ARE PARKING ON THE STREETS BECAUSE THE CURRENT PARKING ORDINANCE IS OBSOLETE FOR THE TIMEFRAME. SO WHEN YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK.

THEY ARE ABLE TO SNEAK IN AT THE LAST MINUTE A PARK UP AND DOWN THE STREETS ON BOTH SIDES AS DARCY SHOWED. IT IS LIKE THAT ESPECIALLY THIRD AVENUE. SOMEWHAT ON THE SOFT PART OF

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SIR? >> WHEN YOU GET TO IT. >> AN EXCELLENT AGENDA IS ITEM

[7. COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS]

HAVING A BUSINESS DOWN THERE FOR 23 YEARS, TRUST ME I FEEL YOUR THING. WHEN SCHOOL STARTED BECAUSE OF THE BUS SITUATION. MY ENTIRE BACK PARKING LOT, ONE AFTERNOON WAS PFULL OF PEOPLE PICKING UP THE KIDS. NOT MY CUSTOMERS. I BOUGHT SIGNS THAT SAYS PARKING FOR MY PLACE ONLY AFTER THAT. BUT, IT'S EVERYWHERE. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO FIX IT.

>> ANY OTHER COUNSELORS WISH TO MAKE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? OKAY. ALL RIGHT MOVING ON.

[8. CONSENT AGENDA]

GENERAL CLAIMS AMOUNT OF $2,663,894.33. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE WE WILL VOTE ON THIS. COUNS

[10. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

COMMITTEE, CHAIRMAN WORRELL. >> THINK ABOUT A PRESIDENT. WE HAVE NOT MET. WE HAVE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. I SCHEDULED THE NEXT MEETING FOR NOVEMBER 18 AT 6:00 PM. WE WILL EITHER BE IN

THIS ROOM OR THE CARCASS RAIL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH ITEM 10 B IS LAND-USE AND SPECIAL

[11. OTHER REPORTS – (at the first meeting of the month specified below)]

STUDIES COMMITTEE. CHAIRMAN RIDER. >> MADAM PRESIDENT WE MET AT 5

O'CLOCK AND I WILL GET MY REPORT ON 12 A. >> PERFECT, ITEM 11 IS OTHER REPORTS. ITEM 11 A IS A BOUT WE DEVOTE OUR COMMISSIONS MONTHLY REPORT. THE WELCOME

DIRECTOR ÃÃTO THE PODIUM. >> GOOD AFTERNOON COUNSELORS. GOOD EVENING. OKAY.

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THE LOWER PICTURE THERE YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN LAWN ALREADY DONE. THE LAUNCH HAS STARTED CONSTRUCTION. AS SOME OF YOU SAW IN CARMEL'S PAPER OF RECORD THE ARCHITECTURE HAS BEEN RELEASED FOR THE FIRST ON MAIN PROJECT PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS LOT 1. FIRST ON MAIN EQUALLY RECOGNIZES THAT THE FIRST LAW OF THE CITY OF BETHLEHEM AT THE TIME WAS ON MAIN STREET RIGHT AT THAT PARCEL. THIS IS ARCHITECTURAL LOOK FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING. THERE WILL BE OF COURSE ALSO BE A GARAGE WRAPPED BY APARTMENTS. THE LOOK WE'RE GOING FOR WAS FOR ARCHITECTURE THAT IS TIMELESS AND TRADITIONAL AND FITS THE MAIN STREET. HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET SOMEBODY TO WONDER WHEN THE BUILDING WAS ACTUALLY BUILT. CONSTRUCTION ON MAGNOLIA PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD AS WELL ON THE CONDOS SIDE. THE CORONER ALSO HAS PERMITS AND HAS BEGUN SITE WORK. TODAY, THERE WAS AN OFFICIAL GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE SIGNATURE PROJECT. SO IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN PAST THE FORMER STOUTS SHOES PROPERTY AND I BELIEVE THE VETERINARIAN CLINIC ON THE CORNER OF ÃAND MAINE. THOSE STRUCTURES ARE NO LONGER THERE. THERE BEEN DEMOLISHED IN THIS WONDERFUL PROJECT COMPLETE WITH RETAIL, FEET SILL CONDOS AND MULTI FAMILY HAS OFFICIALLY BEGUN. TODAY IS ALSO THE DAY THAT THE REACH OF OHMIC COMMISSION ISSUED A NOTICE TO PROCEED TO FA WILHELM. THE DESIGN BUILDER OF THE NEW PACIFIC SQUARE PARKING GARAGE. CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN IN JANUARY.

TILLICH WITH UTILITY RELOCATION STONE. DESIGN IS ONGOING FOR THE CARMEL CLAY HISTORICAL SOCIETY. THAT'S A PROJECT WITH THE TOWNSHIP. AND PRESIDIUM 2 HAS NOW FILED THEIR PLANS WITH THE CITY OF CARMEL'S PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. FINALLY HAMILTON CROSSING HAS ALSO FILED THEIR PLANS WITH THE CITY'S PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT AND THOSE ARE MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH A DELOS FOR APPROVAL. THAT IS THE LATEST UPDATE ON REDEPLOYMENT PROJECTS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR I CAN TELL A JOKE IF YOU WANT TO HEAR ONE.

>> DARE I TAKE HIM UP ON THAT? DO YOU HAVE A JOKE? >> I HAVE A JOKE.

>> A CLEAN ONE? >> YES. OKAY, BRING IT. >> PERSON WALKS INTO A LIBRARY AND SAYS, CAN I PLEASE HAVE A BURGER. LIBRARIAN SAYS SIR, THIS IS A LIBRARY. THE PERSON

SAYS, CAN I PLEASE HAVE A BURGER. >> WELL DONE HENRY, WELL DONE.

THAT WAS HIS FIRST AND LAST COMEDIC SHOWING. ANY QUESTIONS FOR HENRY OTHER THAN ASKING FOR ANOTHER JOKE? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. I APPRECIATE IT. I REALLY DID IT THANK YOU WOULD TAKE ME UP ON THAT. THANKS FOR CALLING MY BLUFF. OKAY, SO THE NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 11 EE, CARPAL CABLE UNTIL COMMISSIONS COMMISSION. THAT'S IN OUR POP PACKETS AND

[12. OLD BUSINESS]

[01:05:01]

COMING BACK AS A COMMITTEE. SO COUNSELOR RIDER. >> MADAM PRESIDENT. WE MET AT 5 O'CLOCK WE RETURNED THIS WITH A 3 ÃZERO POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION. BASICALLY WHAT WE DID WAS WE WENT OVER THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT. THIS PROJECT HAS GONE OVER MANY YEARS MOVING UTILITIES, DIFFERENT COUNCILS. AND THE PROGRESSION AND QUALITY AND LEVEL OF CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS OVER THE YEARS HAS INCREASED THE COST ALSO INCREASE THE ASSESSED VALUE. 100 PERCENT OF THE TIF WAS GRANTED FOR THIS PROJECT. AND WITH THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES AND QUALITY AN ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE OFFICE BUILDINGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAME UP DURING THE DISCUSSIONS PRECIPITATED THE NEED FOR AN INCREASE IN THE FONT AMOUNT FOR THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD THE QUALITY OR LOOK FOR IN THIS LOCATION. HER BOND ATTORNEY, THE DEVELOPER AND HENRY ARE STILL HERE IF ANYBODY

HAS ANY QUESTIONS. >> COUNCIL? COUNSELOR WORRELL, IS HE STILL WITH US? HE MAY

NOT BE. >> OH YES MA'AM, I'M STILL HERE. I DIDN'T HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS. I WAS AT THE LAND-USE COMMITTEE. >> OKAY, PERFECT.

>> MADAM PRESIDENT? >> SIR, >> I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE D Ã2601 Ã21. QUICK SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION? YES

COUNSELOR GREEN? >> I WANT TO SAY ALSO ATTENDED THE LAND-USE COMMITTEE MEETING.

THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION WAS REALLY HELPFUL. ALL OF THE CHANGES AND OBSTACLES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE AND GETTING THIS CONSTRUCTED AND WITH THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES AN INCREASE IN ASSESSMENT AND JUST HOW FAR THAT PROPERTY HAS COME. THE LAND-USE COMMITTEE MEETING WAS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET THAT BACKGROUND. I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> COUNSELOR RIDER. >> I WANT TO BE REPEAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN REPEATED VERY TIME. THIS IS A DEVELOPER BACKED BONDS. THE CITY AND THE TAXPAYERS HAVE ZERO RISK ON

THIS BOND. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL

RIGHT, WE WILL CAST YOUR VOTES. [VOTING] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ITEM 12 B IS A CIRCUIT READS OF 26.[INDISCERNABLE]. THIS IS SPONSORED BY COUNSELORS FINKAM AND 2011.

[13. PUBLIC HEARINGS]

>> ITEM 13 IS PUBLIC AREAS. THIS IS FIRST BRAVE AUDIENCE D Ã2604 Ã21. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA AUTHORIZING APPROVING APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS FROM THE ARP CORONAVIRUS LOCAL PHYSICAL RECOVERY FUND, FUND NUMBER 176 THIS IS SPONSORED BY COUNSELOR

WORRELL. >> ALL READ THE SYNOPSIS. >> MOVED TO INTRODUCE QUICK

SECOND. >> APPROPRIATE FUNDS OF THE ARP CORONAVIRUS LOCAL PHYSICAL RECOVERY FUND FOR CARMEL CLAY PARKS AND RECREATION, IMPLEMENT PREMIUM PAIN FOR THE ARP SERVED BY THE COMMON COUNSELOR. THIS IS AN AMOUNT COMING FROM THE ARP FUNDS TO FORCE EMPLOYEES SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID FOR CITY EMPLOYEES. THERE ARE GUIDELINES OF HOW THEY WOULD APPLY. AND RIGHT NOW IN THE BUDGET AMOUNT WOULD BE $111,786.88.

>> DIRECTOR ÃSHE WANTS ANYTHING? I WASN'T SURE IF YOU WANTED AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY

ANYTHING ON THIS ITEM OR NOT. >> PRESIDENT OF INCOME THANK YOU VERY MUCH IF THEY GET TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERING THIS RESOLUTION TONIGHT. SIMILAR TO CITY EMPLOYEES. OUR EMPLOYES THAT WORKED IN PERSON SO EITHER IN THE PARKS OR IN ONE OF OUR FACILITIES WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS DURING THE SPECIFIED TIMEFRAME. SAME TIMEFRAME THAT WAS SPECIFIED FOR CITY EMPLOYEES AND WE ARE ALSO OFFERING THIS TO OUR PART-TIME EMPLOYEES BECAUSE WE HAD PART-TIMERS WORKING IN THE SCHOOLS ENTERING THE SUMMER CAMPS. KEEPING THE PARKS IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER OPEN. WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE THEM AS WELL WE ALSO ARE CAPPING AT SIMILAR TO THE CITY. UP TO 2 PERCENT OF SALARIES FOR OUR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES FOR PART-TIME EMPLOYEES. WE KEPT AT $250. IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATIVE ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ARE VERY HEAVILY ON COST RECOVERY OUR EMPLOYEES DID NOT RECEIVE A

[01:10:10]

>> COUNSELOR CAMPBELL. >> THANK YOU. DIRECTOR HOW MANY FULL-TIME AND PART-TIME

EMPLOYEES DOES THIS APPLY TO? >> SO I'M GOING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEADS. FOR FULL TIMERS IT'S THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM. IT'S GOING TO BE AROUND 60 PLUS OR MINUS A FEW. AND THEN 4 OR PART-TIMERS WERE LOOKING AT CLOSE TO 300 PART-TIMERS THAT WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR IT. AND ACTUALLY, OVER HALF OF THE DOLLARS THAT ARE ALLOCATED ARE FOR OUR PART-TIME STAFF.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MICHAEL OR OUR CITY ATTORNEY? OKAY SEEING NONE I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. AT 7:13. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE PODIUM. SEEING NONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I

WILL BLOCK MY MOTION. >> MADAM PRESIDENT? >> SIR? > I MAKE A MOTION

TO SUSPEND THE ROLES AND ACT ON THIS THIS EVENING. >> SECOND.

>> WILL VOTE ON SUSPENDING THE RULES. [VOTING] THE RULES ARE SUSPENDED HIM ARE FREE TO ACT

UNLESS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT? >> ARE GREAT.

>> I MOVED TO APPROVE ORDINANCE D 2604 Ã21. >> SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE WILL VOTE ON THIS ITEM. [VOTING] THANK YOU MICHAEL AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EMPLOYEES ON OUR BEHALF.

[14. NEW BUSINESS]

>> ON 14 IS YOUR BUSINESS. 48 AS IS FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D 2606 Ã21.

ORDINANCE OF THE, COUNSEL THE CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA BUT IN CHAPTER 8 ARTICLE 5 SECTIONS 8 Ã45 AND 8 Ã48. OF THE CARMEL CITY CODE. THIS IS SPONSORED BY COUNSELORS.

>> MOVED INTRODUCE. >> ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CIVIL PENALTIES CONNECTED BY THE ORDINANCE VIOLATION BUREAU FOR VIOLATIONS OF ANY PROVISION OF CHAPTER 8 ARTICLE 5 OF THE CARMEL CITY CODE. FURTHER REGULATING THE PARKING STAFFING OF MOTOR VEHICLES ON CITY STREETS WITHIN PROXIMITY OF SCHOOL PROPERTY. I DID WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS TO MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT WHY I AM PRESENTING THIS ORDINANCE. AS YOU HEARD WE'VE HEARD FROM SOME PEOPLE WITH BLUE CARDS, WE RECEIVED EMAILS AND HAVE SEEN THE PICTURES. I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME OUT ON THE 4 CORNERS BASICALLY OF THE HIGH SCHOOL. I TALKED TO MANY OF YOU ON THE PHONE. THIS WOULD APPLY TO ALL SCHOOLS. THERE ARE ISSUES IN OTHER AREAS. I KNOW COUNSELOR FINKAM, PRESIDENT FINKAM EXPRESSED CONCERNS. I THINK THERE WAS SOMEONE ON THE WEST SIDE AS WELL. I WOULD REMIND EVERYBODY THAT, I AM RECEIVING SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST THIS. SOME PARENTS I BET THAT WANT TO CONTINUE THIS ON. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CREATE SOME CONTEXT. THE PARKING AROUND CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL, WE'VE ALL SEEN THAT THERE ARE THE SIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN REFERRED TO TONIGHT. THE BLUE CARDS, 8:30 ÃMICHAEL 30. THAT WAS PRODUCED IN THE YEAR 2001 BECAUSE IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN IS THAT THE SCHOOL WAS MORE LIKE WHEN I WENT TO SCHOOL THERE WAS NO BLOCKED SCHEDULING. NOW WITH BLOCK SCHEDULING THE 8:30 Ã9 QUANTITY BECAME OBSOLETE LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE. ACTUALLY WHENEVER BLOCK SCHEDULING STARTED. OF COURSE, WHAT HAS HAPPENED THIS YEAR THERE ARE SOME CONTRIBUTING FACTORS. FIRST OF ALL AS WE ALL KNOW THERE IS A BUS DRIVER SHORTAGE. THE SCHOOLS CREATED A ONE MILE WALK SEWN AROUND THE PERIMETER. BUT, THAT IS NOT THE ONLY REASON. THEY'VE ALSO CHANGED THE BELT TIMES. I DID CHECK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE BELT TIMES. THEY BELIEVE WILL REMAIN AT LEAST FOR NEXT YEAR AND POSSIBLY LONGER. THEY DON'T BELIEVE THEY WILL SOLVE THE BUS ISSUE AND THERE ARE SOME STUDENTS NOW WHO ACTUALLY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BREAK THE BUS EVEN IF WERE NOW AVAILABLE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOTTEN IN TO OTHER HABITS.

NOW, WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, AND I'M GONNA SPEAK PRIMARILY ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL. AGAIN THIS IS INVOLVES A LOT OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS. IT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IS THAT THE STUDENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO PARK ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM.

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SOMEONE WILL FIGURE OUT A WAY AROUND THE SYSTEM. IT IS INTERESTING THAT WITH THE 68 BUSES THAT LEAVE CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL EACH DAY THERE ARE ONLY ON AVERAGE, THEY'VE LOOKED AT THIS ABOUT 30 TO 35 STUDENTS ON THOSE BUSES. EVEN WITH A BUS DRIVER SHORTAGE WE ARE SENDING ALL OF THOSE BUSES OUT BASICALLY HALF FULL. MAYBE A LITTLE OVER HALF FULL. IT'S A 54 PASSENGER BUS. THAT MEANS 1800 STUDENTS OUT OF OUR TOTAL HIGH SCHOOL POPULATION ARE GOING OUT ON THE BUS. THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER 1500 STUDENTS THAT IS ESTIMATED NOT 1500 CARS, 1500 STUDENTS BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GOT A FRIEND. THERE ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THE RULES OF PARKING AT THE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL STADIUM. WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH 1500, THESE ARE APPROXIMATE BUT I THINK IT'S GROUNDED THE OTHER DATE I HAVE IF SOMEONE HAS DATA DIFFERENT ALL VIEW IT. 1500 STUDENTS NOW THAT ARE USING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN THE WEATHER GETS WORSE? WE ALREADY SAW AN UPTICK WHEN IT RAINED. WHAT IS GOING HAPPEN WHEN THE SNOW FLIES? THAT IS A CONCERN. TRYING TO GET OUT AHEAD OF THIS. I SEE THERE ARE BASICALLY 5 THINGS HAPPENING. GIVING MY NEXT PICTURE.

ASSISTANT? IF YOU CAN. I'VE GOT A PICTURE, WELL, OKAY. SO, THIS IS THE FIRST THING THAT HAPPENS. THERE'S A VERY POLITE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT DID IT TALK ABOUT THIS. THIS IS A PICTURE OF A CAR PARKED IN SOMEONE'S CAR RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY. I PROBABLY SHOULD'VE BLURRED THE LICENSE PLATE SO GET OFF THAT ONE QUICK JACOB. AND, THE RESPONSE WHEN ASKED TO MOVE WAS NOT PRETTY. HAPPEN TO WITNESS IT. WE HAVE STUDENTS SAFETY. GO AHEAD AND WILDLY ROLL THE VIDEO. WE DO HAVE SOME DRONE VIDEO. THIS IS NOT, I DON'T THINK THIS VIDEO TOTALLY SHOWS EVERYTHING. WE TRIED TO CAPTURE WHAT WE COULD. THERE ARE COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF BEFORE THE PICKUP HAPPENS OF JUST THE CARS PARKED. IT IS ON LEXINGTON TO THE SOUTH, IT'S ON THE BEACH MONTH TO THE EAST. IT'S ON THIRD AVENUE. SECOND STREET, FIRST AVENUE. YOU CAN SEE THE CAR STARTING TO LINE OUT. THE VIDEO WILL BACK UP. WE WILL SEE CARS AND ALLEYS. WHEN I WAS OUT THERE THEY WERE PARKED IN PARKING LOTS FOR BUSINESSES. THERE IS A FAIR PLACE AND PEOPLE WERE PARKED IN THERE.

OF COURSE WHAT A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE STARTED TO DO AS THEY WILL PUT THEIR TRASH CANS OUT INTO THE STREET TO TRY TO LEAVE A SPACE FOR SON OR DAUGHTER COMING HOME OR THE EUCHRE GROUP COMING OVER OR WHATEVE. THIS IS ONLY 2 MINUTES. WERE TRYING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A FEEL FOR WHAT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DEALING WITH AND THE AMOUNT OF

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WE ALSO HAVE NO OFFENSE, WE HAVE SOME YOUNGER DRIVERS AND OLDER DRIVERS ALL TRYING TO GET TO THE SAME PLACE. IF I HAVEN'T MISSED IT. I WANT TO GIVE A THANK YOU TO JOSH KIRSCH FROM HER ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HE IS RIGHT THERE. HE WANTED TO GET HIMSELF ON CAMERA. HE DID ALL THE VIDEO FOR ME. THE DAY WE WERE OUT HERE I MAY HAVE ARTEMIS DEAD. THERE WAS JUST A GUY TRYING TO PULL HIS TRASH CANS UP THE DRIVEWAY AND THERE WAS A CAR THERE. AND HE HAD TO ASK THE GUY TO MOVE. JUST SO HE COULD MOVE HIS TRASH CANS AND PUT THEM AWAY IN THE GARAGE. WE HAVE KIDS WALKING AROUND AND CARS STARTING TO LEAVE. THIS IS ALL HAPPENING AT ONE TIME. THAT'S WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS. NOW, WE ARE PROBABLY GETTING TO THE END OF THIS VIDEO. THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO SHOW YOU IS THAT IT IS HOW WE CAN TELL WHO'S PARKING AND WHO'S NOT PARKING. I THINK I MIGHT HAVE ALREADY MISSED THE PULLING UP. THERE'S JUST MAY BE ANOTHER 20 SECONDS LEFT HERE. IT IS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET OUT AND EXPERIENCE IT. IF YOU CAN. WHEN THE WEATHER IS WORSE THERE MORE CARS. WHAT I SAW WERE CARS PARKING FACING THE WRONG DIRECTION. THIS IS JUST A LITTLE EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. I THOUGHT FOR A CLOCK HOUR. MARK APPEARED THAT BY 4 25 BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S LEAVING ALL THE SAME TIME IT'S OVER. THIS IS ALSO HOW I KNOW WHO'S PARKING THERE FOR SCHOOL AND WHO'S NOT. NO, A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN POINTED OUT TO ME WHEN THE WEATHER GETS WARMER AND PEOPLE RIGHT NOW ARE LETTING THEIR CARS RUN. THERE'S AN AIR QUALITY ISSUE.

WE'VE GOT ALL THESE CARS THERE. IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE. WE'VE GOT EMERGENCY VEHICLES, STUDENT SAFETY, THEN JUST AS YOU PURCHASE GETTING IN AND OUT OF MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULDN'T REALLY BE THIS DIFFICULT. AND BLOCKADES ALLEYS AND DRIVEWAYS AND WAS TALKING WHEN I MISS THE ONLY ONE. WE COULD BURN IT AGAIN OR YOU GUYS CAN SEE IT AT ANY TIME. JUST A COUPLE OF HIGH POINTS. THIS ORDINANCE APPLIES TO ALL SCHOOLS. IT WILL CREATE A 2500 FOOT RADIUS AROUND THE SCHOOL. THAT HAPPENS TO BE FURTHER AWAY THAN THE TRAIL OF TEARS. THE TRAIL OF TEARS WILL BE SHORTER. WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, THE WAY THIS WILL BE WRITTEN AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND IT NEEDS TO GO TO COMMITTEE BECAUSE SOMEONE'S GOING TO THINK OF SOMETHING WE DIDN'T. THE THEORY WOULD BE THAT IF YOU BELIEVE YOUR STREET SHOULD BE INCLUDED AND HAVE NO PARKING OR HAVE IT REMOVED YOU MUST PETITION THE CITY ENGINEER, HE THEN WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION OR RECOMMENDATION AND THEN THE SCIENCE WOULD GO, THE REQUEST FOR THE SIGNS WILL GO UP OR DOWN WILL GO BEFORE BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS. THEN PEOPLE CAN SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST. WE CAN HAVE, IT'S NOT JUST ON MAKING ALL 2500 FEET RADIUS NO PARKING. THE OTHER CONCERN IS THE PEOPLE WHO THEN HAVE SOMEBODY COMING TO THEIR HOUSE EVERY TUESDAY TO DO SOMETHING OR THE LAWN GUY. IT DOES NOT AFFECT ANY SERVICES. IF IT WOULD JUST BE A RESIDENT HAVING SOMEONE THAT NEEDS TO PARK IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME. WE HAVE A SYSTEM. EITHER A PERMANENT RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT OR A 2 HOUR GUEST PASS TYPE SYSTEM THAT WE FIGURED OUT AND TOSSED AROUND HOW THIS WOULD WORK. IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT THEY DO IN CHICAGO AND SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ISSUE THOSE THAT WOULD BE TIED TO THE ADDRESS. WHEN I WAS ON LEXINGTON THERE WAS A CAR PARKED RIGHT AT THE STOP SIGN LEGAL. THE NEIGHBORS WERE COMPLAINING. ONE, SHANE PHONETICALLY, HE QUICKLY RAN THE PLATE THAT'S ONE OF OUR KIDS. IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING. HE CALLS THE MOTHER. THE MOTHER COMES AND MOVES THE CAR. I HAPPEN TO BE STANDING OUT LATER THAT AFTERNOON AND I'M THE ONLY OLD

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QUESTIONS. >> COUNCIL? >> MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS A QUESTION MAYBE COUNSELOR WORRELL WANTS OF THE SPIRIT HAVE HER TALK TO THE SCHOOL

SYSTEM ABOUT INFORMING THE STUDENTS ABOUT THESE CHANGES IF THEY PASS? >> YES. WE HAVE APPEARED AS A BENEFIT THAT CAME UP IN OUR MEETING, THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THEÁMORE THAN WITH THE COMMAND STAFF IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHEN WE STARTED TO WORK WITH US. THAT IS BEING DONE. THEY ARE INFORMING EVERYBODY WHERE PICKUP IS. IN INFORMING VIA LETTERS OF THE NORMAL SYSTEM OF WHERE YOU GO TO BE IN THE CARPOOL LINE. WHERE YOU'RE

ALLOWED TO PARK. IT JUST IS NOT WORKING RIGHT NOW. >> INFORM THEM AGAIN IF THERE

IS A HEY POLICIES CHANGED OUT IT'S EVEN TOUGHER. >> IN THIS ORDINANCE IS A FINE AND A TICKET. SO, RIGHT NOW OUR POLICE OFFICERS DO NOT HAVE ANY WAY. THE RESIDENTS STARTED OUT THAT WAY BY CALLING THE POLICE AND SAYING THIS GUY IS BLOCKING MY DRIVEWAY. I CAN'T GET OUT. THEY'RE SAYING I'M SORRY, AND THAT'S AN EXAGGERATION BUT, IF IT WERE TRULY BLOCKING A DRIVEWAY AND YOU COULDN'T GET AROUND IT THEY WOULD TELL IT. REALLY, THERE'S

NOTHING RIGHT NOW LIMITING WHO CAN PARK ON THE STREETS. >> COUNSELOR GREENE?

>> THANKS. ON ONE OF THOSE PARENTS THAT'S BEEN TILLING WITH THIS FOR A WHILE. I'M ON MY THIRD CHILD GOING THROUGH CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL. THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY ISSUES OR PROBLEMS UNTIL 4 MONTHS AGO. THERE WERE A SERIES, NOT SHIFTING A COUPLE HOURS. THERE WERE SERIES OF DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE THAT IMPACTED AND CAUSED THIS. MY CONCERN IS NOT THAT SOMETHING DEFINITELY HAS TO HAPPEN. THAT THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE THE SOLUTION? THIS IS IT ADDRESSING WHAT CAUSE THIS. THE POLICY CHANGE THAT CAUSE THIS. FOR INSTANCE, I EASILY ONCE EVERY 3 WEEKS OR SO I HAVE TO PICK UP MY DAUGHTER AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. I'M ONE OF THOSE PARENTS THAT YOU KNOW, I GO TO THE LIBRARY, I GO WHEREVER I CAN FIND A PLACE.

THEN SHE COMES A NEED TO BE THERE. MY DAUGHTER. I'M WAITING FOR MY DAUGHTER AND SUDDENLY THERE'S A HERD OF LIKE THOUSAND KIDS JUST STORMING KIND OF DOWNTOWN. IT'S CRAZY.

THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ARE WE GOING. SOME OF THEM GOING TO CARS. I THINK THERE'S A SERIES OF THINGS. ONE IS MAYBE THE LIBRARY BEING SHUT DOWN. NUMBER OF KIDS BIBLICAL STUDY OF THE LIBRARY. NOW THEY'RE GOING AND FINDING OTHER PLACES TO GO STUDY BY PIZZA PLACES OR COFFEE PLACES OR WHEREVER THEY CAN FIND PLACES DOWNTOWN. THAT'S ONE OF THEM. ANOTHER IS WHILE I THINK WE JUST NEED TO COME COUNSELOR WORRELL YOU SAID YOU TALK TO THE SROS. THE COMMITTEE MEETING HAVING SOME PEOPLE FROM THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION MADE THESE DECISIONS TO GIVE US FEEDBACK ON WHY THEY MEET SOME OF THE DECISIONS. THE COMMENT YOU MADE ABOUT THE BUSES ARE ONLY HALF FULL. I'M SURE THAT'S THE CASE. MY DAUGHTER AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE USED TO RENT BUSES, DON'T RIDE BUSES ANYMORE. SO I'M WONDERING IF SOME OF THESE CHANGES YOU KNOW CAN'T BE EITHER SLIGHTLY AMENDED OR TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT IT HAS ON EVERYTHING ELSE. BECAUSE I KNOW THE FOOTBALL STADIUM ISN'T ANYWHERE NEAR AS SVELTE AS IT USED TO BE WITH CARS. SO SOMETHING IS DRIVING THE JUNIORS AND SENIORS WHO HAVE CARS TO SAY HEY, I'M NOT PARKING AT THE FOOTBALL STADIUM ANYMORE. I'M A GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE. EVEN IF WE MAKE 2500 FEET THEY'RE GOING TO FIND SOMEPLACE ELSE TO PARK. THIS IS JUST SHIFTING THE POTENTIAL PROBLEM FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU KNOW 50 FEET FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS. REALLY THANK YOU KNOW SOMETHING DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE DONE.

WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND COORDINATE WITH THE SCHOOL. ALSO I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO INCLUDE THE STUDENTS IN PART OF THE DISCUSSION. NO NEXT COUPLE WEEKS THAT MIRRORS YOUTH GROUP

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AND KIND OF TRYING TO SIMPLIFY IT. BUT HAVING EVERYBODY FORCING EVERYBODY OUT OF ONE EXIT. BECAUSE, THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS HAVE TOLD ME THIS. IF YOU'RE GOING EAST IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL. IT'S PRETTY EFFICIENT. BUT 2 THIRDS THE 3 FOURTHS OF THE STUDENT POPULATION AND THIS IS WHAT THE KIDS ARE SAYING. ART WEST OF CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GO WEST FROM CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL THERE BEING FUNNELED IN A ONE EXIT WHICH COMPLETELY DISTORTS. MY APPEARANCE HAVING TO PICK UP THEIR KIDS IN THAT SAME KIND OF PROCESS. IT'S REALLY MAKING EVERYONE LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVES. THOSE ALTERNATIVES ARE PARKING IN OTHER PLACES. EVEN IF WE BAN PARKING WITHIN 2500 FEET, YOU KNOW I'M GOOD AT MAPS. AND WHEN YOU FIND A PLACE I COULD PICK UP MY KIDS MUCH FASTER MUCH INEFFICIENT BUT ALSO SAFE.

HOPEFULLY AVOID THE HERD OF KIDS RUNNING THROUGH ALL OF THE PLACE. THERE WERE STILL INSURANCE POLICY DECISIONS MADE BY THE SCHOOL IN AUGUST THAT KIND OF PUT US IN THIS TYPE OF

SITUATION AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MITIGATE THOUGHT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT? CAN I

RESPOND? >> SURE. >> I DID, OR SCANNING MY NOTES WHEN I WAS SPEAKING. ONE OF THE THINGS ALSO, ANOTHER THING THAT COULD IMPACT THIS NEGATIVELY AS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. ALL THAT PARKING WAS LOST AROUND THE SCHOOL APPEARED AND CREATED, WE CAN EVEN DRIVE ON THAT EAST SIDE OF THE SCHOOL.

HOWEVER, EVEN WHEN THAT IS FINISHED THEY NOW TELL ME THEY'RE GOING TO THEN CONSTRUCT THE, DO SOMETHING TO THAT AUDITORIUM. THIS WILL GO ON FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER IN ADDITION TO THIS MORNING BIBLICAL ANOTHER 2 MORE SCHOOL SEASONS. SO, YOU KNOW I GUESS I WOULD LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS. I WOULD RESPOND. WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING ELSE. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO WALK FROM FIRST AVENUE NORTH WEST OR SECOND AVENUE NORTHWEST. GO AHEAD. IT'S CLOSER TO WALK FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL. I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULD DO THAT TONY. IF THEY WANT TO, EVEN IF WE SPREAD PEOPLE OUT. I HAVE ONE OR 2 CARS ON THE STREET INSTEAD OF 15 AS YOU SAW ALL TRY TO GET AS CLOSE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. I'M GOING TO JUST POSTULATE THAT WOULD HELP.

> SO I HEAR YOU. THIS IS NOT PERFECT. I DID TALK TO THE ADMINISTRATION. MR. MCMICHAEL TO SUPPORT THIS. MAN THEY WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO USE THE SYSTEM. I'VE ALSO BEEN IN THE WESTBOUND TRAFFIC AT THE CLOSEST SCHOOL. YOU SIT THERE. THERE'S 4000 KIDS TRYING TO GET OUT. SIT THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT BUT IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. JUST LIKE THIS OVER HERE IN THE VIDEO. IT GOES AWAY EVENTUALLY. SO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A WAY TO PLEASE ALL

SIDES, LET'S FIGURE IT OUT. >> ,IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE. IT'S JUST, I'M AFRAID THIS IS JUST A BAND-AID AND IS IT GONNA REALLY FIX ANYTHING. YOU KNOW OR NOT TO THE DEGREE WE WANT IT

TO BE FIXED. SO MAYBE WE CAN CHANGE IT IN COMMITTEE. >> YEAH.

>> COUNSELOR RIDER PICK. >> MADAM PRESIDENT. TO ADD ONE COMMENT TO WHAT IT WAS, SAINT TO ANSWER COUNSELOR WORRELL'S THING IS YOU KNOW WHY? APPLYING KIDS IN CARMEL FOR 38 YEARS IT'S BECAUSE IT'S BREAKING THE RULES. THEY WILL WALK FURTHER TO NOT PARK OR

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THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. >> COUNSELOR CAMPBELL.

>> VICKI MADAM PRESIDENT I THANK YOU COUNSELOR WORRELL FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE UP FOR THE COUNCIL AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE LETTERS. THE SAFETY ISSUE IS A HUGE CONCERN. I DIDN'T EVEN THINK WILL BE FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS ABOUT THE ISSUE OF AN AMBULANCE GETTING THROUGH. AND AS WE HEAD TOWARDS WINTER I'M THINKING HOW TO SNOW PLOWS GET THROUGH? THERE ARE A LOT OF THESE ISSUES I THINK WILL COME UP AS THE YEAR PROGRESSES. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR BENJAMIN. I ALSO THOUGHT OF THE ISSUE OF POTENTIALLY SELLING PARKING PASSES. HAVING 3 KIDS WHO WENT THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL. I THINK THAT'S A POTENTIAL ISSUE. BUT BENJAMIN, HOW SOON IF WE DO PASS THIS ORDINANCE, HOW SOON WOULD IT BECOME EFFECTIVE AND

HOW WILL THE CITY ENFORCE IT? FOR THE 2500 ASPECT OF IT? >> BENJAMIN, ÃÃCOUNSEL. IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE UPON PUBLICATION. IT IS PENAL IN NATURE. THAT'S WHEN IT WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE OR A DATE WE ASSIGN THAT IT WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE. WITH REGARDS TO HOW IT WOULD WORK. COUNCIL SETS THESE PARAMETERS. THE 2500S FEET, THE TYPE OF LIMITATION.

IN PROXIMITY AND THEN ALSO STOPPING AND PARKING THE TIMES FOR SODIUM Ã5 PM. HE SAID THOSE RAMIFICATIONS BUT BECAUSE THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT CONTINUES TO EVOLVE SHALL WE SAY. IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THE FLEXIBILITY. THE IDEA BEHIND THIS ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR THE FLEXIBILITY OF SCIENCE TO BE PUT IN PLACE FOR THE PROBLEM IS AND WHERE PEOPLE PETITION FOR THEM. RATHER THAN IT ALWAYS HAVING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL. IT'S A DELEGATION. HE SET THE STANDARD OF LIMITATIONS THEN YOU SAY NOW MAKE IT WORK. AND AS IT SHOULD WORK FOR THE PEOPLE WHICH MIGHT HAVE IS A SITUATION WHERE AT ONE STAGE THE SIGNS ARE VERY WELL NEEDED.

THEN YOU WILL FIND ACTUALLY MAYBE THEY ARE NOT. THEN THERE WILL BE ANOTHER REVIEW AND THEN THAT SCIENCE COULD BE TAKEN AWAY. SO YOU HAVE THIS. THE QUESTION ABOUT STUDENTS ALWAYS FINDING THE NEXT PLACE. 2500 FEET FROM SCHOOL PROPERTY IS NOT FROM THE CENTER OF THE SCHOOL. IT IS FROM SCHOOL PROPERTY. THIS IS QUITE A LONG WAY. IT'S A FAR REACH. IF KIDS MOVE ONTO THE NEXT NEIGHBORHOOD WHILE AT THAT POINT IN TIME THOSE RESIDENTS CAN GO AHEAD AND SAY, HEY, THE CITY ENGINEER WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM HERE AND WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO REVIEW IT. YOU COULD AGREE AND THEN CODED VW TIMES COULD BE SIGNS UP AND ENFORCEMENT CAN BE HAPPEN STRAIGHTAWAY. IT ALLOWS FOR FLEXIBILITY FOR VERY CREATIVE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY BE LIKE TO SKIRT AROUND AND FIND PARAMETERS WHERE THEY CAN MANEUVER. SO, IT DOES ALLOW FOR THAT FLEXIBILITY. THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY IT WAS DRAFTED THAT WAY. WITH REGARDS TO THE LANGUAGE UNDER THIS ORDINANCE. IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR, WE'VE TOUGHENED UP THE LANGUAGE AND YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT LINES 173 THROUGH 177.

WE'VE TOUGHENED UP THE REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENT PERMITS. SO WITH THAT TO RECEIVE A RESIDENT VEHICLE AN APPLICANT MUST PROVIDE TO THE CARMEL POLICE DEPARTMENT THE REGISTRATION OF THE VEHICLE THAT WILL DISPLAY THE STICKER AND PEERS OF RESIDENCY AND THE ADDRESS IN QUESTION. VALID OF INDIANA OR PHOTO ID AND A DOCUMENT ISSUED IN THE LAST 60 DAYS TO VERIFY THE APPLICANT'S ADDRESS. IT REALLY IS NARROWED DOWN TO THAT VEHICLE, THAT

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>> THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE POINT ABOUT IT BEING 2500 FEET FROM SCHOOL PROPERTY. I WAS THINKING OF THE BUILDING. LIKE THE HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING. IT'S THE ACTUAL EDGE OF THE

PROPERTY. CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> COUNSELOR TRAUMA 7. >> MADAM PRESIDENT. COUNSEL WORRELL SAID RESPONSIBLE.[INDISCERNABLE]. LET'S NOT TRY TO GET 200 PERCENT OF THAT COMMITTEE.

LET'S GET BACK TO THE COUNCIL. BEST IT CAN BE. GET IT PASSED, WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT AGAIN.

BUT THE SOONER WE PASS AT THE CENTER GOES INTO EFFECT. LET'S NOT TAKE A MONTH AND AND A HALF TO 2 MONTHS IN COMMITTEE TO MAKE IT PERFECT. MAKE YOUR CHANGES, COMMITTEE AND SEND IT BACK TO THE NEXT COUNSIL MEETING AND THE OTHER THING, THE PROBLEM WITH THE 2 HOUR, THAT'S THE FUN THING NOW. THE KIDS BEAT OUR PARKING REGULATIONS BECAUSE THE SENIORS SOME OF THEM ONLY GO FOR AN HOUR AND AND A HALF TO 2 HOURS. THEY WILL BUY THOSE PASSES.

CAN THE OFFICER IF THE PERSON GETS OUT AND WALKS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL CAN THEY AVOID THAT? IT

WOULD BE ANOTHER QUESTION. THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. >> YES. IT IS DRAFTED IN A WAY THAT IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE FOR VISITORS TO THE PROPERTY FOR WHICH THAT TAG IS ASSIGNED.

NOW, IF THEY WERE TO HAVE THE PARKING PASS AND PUT IT ON THE WINDSHIELD AS THE ADDRESS GO INTO THE ADDRESS AND LEAVE THROUGH THE BACK, JUMP OVER THE FENCE, THEN, IT IS ASSIGNED TO

THAT. >> THAT'S AT THE 20 PERCENT WERE TALKING ABOUT.

[LAUGHTER]. >> MADAM PRESIDENT? >> YES COUNSELOR WORRELL.

>> WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. AS YOU CAN SEE I THINK WE ARE GOING TO GET TO WHERE COUNSELOR RIDER WANTS US TO GET ONE MEETING. I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING WE DIDN'T THINK OF. BUT I WANT TO CREDIT OUR LEGAL TEAM BECAUSE I THINK THEY RELATE, THIS MORNING I WENT OH MY GOSH. EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS IS ABOUT THE

PICKUP AS WELL. NO STOPPING OR STANDING. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> THINK IT MADAM PRESIDENT. I KNOW THIS IS NOT GONNA FIX EVERYTHING. I'M PRETTY, IF IT'S ENFORCED I THINK IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. JUST BECAUSE OF THIS FACT. PARKING TICKETS ICKETS USUALLY AFFECT THE OWNER THE VEHICLE NOT THE DRIVER. SO THAT MEANS A LOT OF PARENTSWILL BE GETTING A PARKING TICKET ON THEIR CAR AND HOPEFULLY THE PARENTS WHEN

THEY GET THAT TICKET WILL ENFORCE IT FOR THE STUDENT FROM THAT POINT ON. >> MADAM

PRESIDENT? >> YES COUNSELOR HANNON. >> THANKS FOR A GOOD

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>> THANK YOU COUNSELOR HANNON. ANY LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? AGAIN, COUNSELOR WORRELL THANK YOU FOR DOING A BUNCH OF WORK BEFORE. BECAUSE YOU PUT THAT TIME AND EFFORT AND IT WILL MAKE THE CREATIVE PROCESS LOTS SMOOTHER. I APPRECIATE THAT. WITHOUT UPSETTING LIST OF FINANCE WHICH WILL MEET NOVEMBER 18 AT WHAT TIME? 6 O'CLOCK? OKAY. YOU WILL BE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENTS THERE ARE PRESENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ITEM 14 BEATS RESOLUTION CC 1101 2101. RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNSELOR THE CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA DIRECTING THE CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION TO PREPARE AN AMENDMENT TO THE WEST CLAY VILLAGE PUD DISTRICT OR BEDSPREAD SPONSORS ARE NELSON, OF INCOME, B&.

>> MOVED TO INTRODUCE. >> SECOND. >> SIR?

>> LET ME START BY READING THE SUMMARY. THIS RESOLUTION DIRECTS THE CARMEL PLAN HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN AMENDMENT TO THE WEST CLAY VILLAGE PUD DISTRICT ORDINANCE. SO, NOW IF I COULD JUST EDITORIALIZE JUST A BIT. SO, WHAT THIS COMMITMENT WOULD YOU TO THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY PUD WOULD BE TO REMOVE OF THE SALE OF GASOLINE AND OTHER PETROLEUM PRODUCTS AS PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY. SO, I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF ISSUES IN THE SHORT TIME I'VE BEEN ON COUNSIL THAT HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY THE CONSTITUENTS THAT I REPRESENT. THIS IS DEFINITELY THE ISSUE THAT HAS ATTRACTED THE MOST ATTENTION. SO I'VE RECEIVED EMAILS, I'VE RECEIVED PHONE CALLS AND I'VE RECEIVED VARIOUS DIFFERENT COMMUNICATIONS AT MY OFFICE HOURS. ALSO, JUST MEET KNOCKING ON DOORS OF THE RESIDENCE. GETTING BACK IN TOUCH WITH DOORKNOCKING. AND, THERE ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A GAS STATION FOR CONVENIENCE. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT I TALKED TO ARE CONCERNED. ABOUT THE BENZENE AND OTHER TYPES OF OBNOXIOUS GASES BEING LED INTO THE AIR. IN DIFFERENT TYPES OF PETROLEUM PRODUCTS LEAKING THROUGH TO OUR WATER SUPPLY. I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THESE THINGS. WHAT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD DO WOULD BE A WIN FOR CLEAN AIR AND FOR CLEAN DRINKING WATER. THIS WOULD BE A WIN FOR THE RESIDENTS OF STRAFFORD AND THE ASSISTED LIVING HOME THAT WOULD BACK UP TO THIS GAS STATION. THIS WOULD BE A WIN FOR THE CHILDREN WHO GO TO PRIMROSE SCHOOL AND THIS WOULD BE A WIN FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THIS GAS STATION. SO WITHOUT I WOULD ASK FOR MY

COLLEAGUES SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU COUNSELOR NELSON. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> MADAM PRESIDENT? >> EARTHQUAKE. >> MY YEARS OF APPROVING NOT APPROVING GAS STATIONS WE HAVE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE I'VE MADE THE STATEMENT BEFORE.

THAT THE SAFEST PLACE TO HAVE A GAS BILL IN THE CITY OF CARMEL IS A GAS STATION THAT'S BEEN BUILT IN THE LAST FOR 5 YEARS. EVERYTHING IS TRIPLE LINED AND THERE'S MATTERS THAT HOLDS EVERYTHING THERE. BUT, THEN WE HAVE THE NEW SCIENCE TALKING ABOUT BENZENE. IT'S IN THE AIR. I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT A SPELL. BECAUSE OF HOW THEY BUILD GAS STATIONS NOW.

LITERALLY IT'S MORE DANGEROUS FOR A TANKER TO GET INTO AN ACCIDENT ON THE ROAD THAN TO ADD A NEW GAS STATION. IT WOULD MAINTAIN, IF YOU DUMPED INTEGRAL PART ABOUT NONE OF IT WOULD GET INTO THE GROUND. BUT, THE REASON WE JUST PASSED A NEW ORDINANCE ABOUT THE

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PROPERTY. THANK YOU. >> COUNSELOR RIDER WE TAKE THE GAVEL.

>> RESIDENT FINKAM. >> THANK YOU I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT COUNSELOR WRITER SAID. IT'S NOT THE WAY THEY BUILD GAS STATIONS. WE TOOK A BELT AND SUSPENDERS APPROACH.

IT WAS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE FOR THE SKY STATIONS TO BE BUILT. ANNA MAKE SURE THE PETITIONER UNDERSTANDS OUT. IT MAY TAKE UP SUSPENDERS APPROACH AND PUT SAFETY PRECAUTIONS ON TOP ABOUT. I THINK GETTING THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS ON HOUSE BUILT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE.

WITHOUT I WANT TO SAY I AGREE I HOPE THE PETITIONER TAKES A LONG HARD LOOK AT THIS ASK THEMSELVES WHAT HE REALLY WANTS TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE NOBODY WANTS HIM. THAT'S IT.

>> MR. VICE PRESIDENT? >> I'D LIKE TO JUST, I THINK AT SOME POINT THERE HAS TO BE, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE COUNSELOR NELSON. AT SOME POINT THE PETITIONER NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT GAS STATION IS NOT WANTED THERE. IT IS NOT IN THE COMMUNITY'S BEST INTEREST.

A BIT OF VOTE FOR THIS ORDINANCE EXCUSE ME FOR THIS ROOSEVELT RESOLUTION. WE NEED TO HAVE, WE NEED TO KEEP FIGHTING. THIS IS A SITUATION WHOSE TIME HAS PASSED BY. THEY DIDN'T GET IT BUILT WITHIN THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT SHOULD'VE BEEN BUILT. AND IT'S NOT

NEEDED. IT'S NOT WANTED. IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DO I

HAVE A MOTION? >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? >> WERE GONNA TAKE UP VOICE VOTE.

[VOTING] PASSESS. THIS AGO ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THIS WILL BE ON THE NEXT MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IF THEY WERE TO APPROVE IT THAT NIGHT IT WOULD COME BACK TO US THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER. PRESIDENT FINKAM?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANNA 15 IS AGENDA AT ARMS. WE HAVE NO MORE. ON HIS 16TH AS OTHER BUSINESS. WE HAVE DONE. ITEM 17 IS ANNOUNCEMENTS, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS?

>> MADAM PRESIDENT SINCE HE HAD BE THE GAVEL THAT SHUT ME UP. > YES.

>> WOULD MAKE ONE COMMENT I'VE ASKED THE PETITIONER AND LANDOWNER TO GET IN FRONT OF THIS AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT. IF THEY DON'T, DON'T FORGET AS RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF CARMEL AND THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY, DON'T SHOP THERE. IF YOU DON'T SHOP THERE IT GOES AWAY. SO,

THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION. >> THANK YOU SIR. ITEM 17 IS ANNOUNCEMENTS. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS?

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