Mar 07, 2022 City Council Meeting 03-07-22

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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CALL TO ORDER THE COMMON COUNCIL MEETING OF MARCH 7, 2022. WE WILL START WITH AN

[2. AGENDA APPROVAL]

AGENDA APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE

[3. INVOCATION]

>> >> NICE TO SEE YOU ALL IN HUMAN FORM. LET US PRAY. ETERNAL GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSING OF THIS DATE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE. ON THIS DAY WE PRAY FOR PEACE. WE PRAY ESPECIALLY FOR THE CONFLICT IN UKRAINE AND FOR THE MILLIONS OF REFUGEES SEEKING SHELTER. I ASK FOR YOUR BLESSING ALMIGHTY GOD TO BE UPON THIS MEETING. THAT THESE LEADERS MAKE THE DECISIONS FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

GIVE THEM YOUR WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING. GIVE THEM YOUR LISTENING EAR AND YOUR COMPASSION. GIVE THEM A NON-ANXIOUS PRESENCE. ABOVE ALL A MIGHTY GOD I ASK THAT YOU GIVE THEM JOY. GIVE THEM JOY IN THEIR WORK. THAT THEY MAY KNOW THEY MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND THEY MAY SEE THE FRUITS OF THEIR LEADERSHIP. LET THEM BEING MINDFUL THAT YOU ARE LISTENING IN SMILING UPON THEM AND GUIDING THEIR DECISIONS. I PRAY THIS IN THE NAME OF THE ONE GOD WHO BENDS DOWN TO PICK UP CHILDREN, WHO DRAWS RAINBOWS IN THE CLOUDS AND WHO MAKES ALL

THINGS NEW. AMEN. >> LET'S STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PLEASE. I PLEDGE

[4. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> I HAVE RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING

[5. RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS]

HERE AND WHY WERE GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TONIGHT. THIS IS JUST A SMALL SAMPLING OF THE SCOUTS FROM 202 AT SAINT ELIZABETH SETON.

THERE RIGHT HERE IN CARMEL. WE ARE HERE TONIGHT OUR SCOUTS ARE PURSUING THEIR CITIZENSHIP IN THE COMMUNITY MERIT BADGE. WE HAVE THE FULL SPECTRUM OF SCOUTS. WE HAVE 2 OF OUR FLAMING FALCONS. THESE ARE 2, ALEX SIMS AND JACK WIGLEY. EVERY FEW MERIT BADGES LEFT TO ACHIEVE A GOAL. LESS THAN 6 PERCENT OF SCOUTS ACHIEVE EAGLE RANK. AT TROOP 202 WHERE TO HUNDRED 3 SCOUTS AT EAGLE SINCE 2002. WE HAVE 2 OF OUR TENDERFOOT'S SCOUTS ARE HERE PURSUING THEIR CITIZENSHIP IN THE COMMUNITY MERIT BADGE. THEY ARE JUST STARTING THEIR JOURNEY TOWARDS EAGLE SCOUT. WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL AND THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION AND CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY WE LIVED IN AT ALL THE SUPPORT THAT SCOUTS GET IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> DON'T GO AWAY. YOU'RE COMING RIGHT UP HERE. COUNCIL, DOES COME ON DOWN AND GET A PICTURE. STEP RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. THE TALL ONE ALWAYS STANDS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

COME ON UP. EVERYBODY GET A PICTURE THAT NEEDS TO. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] NEXT, WE ARE

[6. RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL]

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THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. >> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME AND YOU TONIGHT. MY NAME IS SCOTT SEARCY WITH TODD WORKING AT HIS OFFICE THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AS A NEW OUTREACH REPRESENTATIVE FOR HIS OFFICE. I JUST WANTED TO COME AND TALK OF WHAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE DOESN'T SOME OF THE SERVICES WE OFFER. AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO DO FOR ELECTED BODIES AND OFFICIALS IS WE DO HAVE ADVISORY BOARDS. AS NEW LAWS COME ON THE BOOKS SUCH AS THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT'S ABOUT TO WRAP UP. THOSE NEW LAWS AS THEY ARE COMING ON IF YOU NEED AN OPINION OR AN ADVISORY AS TO WHAT THAT DOES AND THAT AFFECTS CURRENT LAW WE CAN ISSUE THOSE IF YOU WORK WITH THOSE LEGISLATION SURE TO GET AN OPINION SUDDENLY THOUGHT. WE ALSO HAVE THE OFFICE OF WE DO COLLECT ON CLAIMANT PROPERTY AND RETURN TO HOOSIERS, TO HOOSIERS. OUR MASTER FINAL NUMBER WAS FOR 2021. IT'S ABOUT $60 MILLION. THAT WE HAD RETURNED TO HOOSIERS. PLEASE I ENCOURAGE ANYONE TO GO AND LOOK AT INDIANA UNCLAIMED.ORG AND YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK UP CHILDREN, GRANDPARENTS, PARENTS, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS FOR THAT. WE ALSO HAVE THE CONSUMER PROTECTION DIVISION WHERE YOU CAN FILE COMPLAINTS AGAINST BUSINESSES. IT WOULD BE NICE IF ALL BUSINESSES WERE GOOD DOCTORS. SOMETIMES WE HAVE SOME BAD ACTORS AND THEY DO NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED. WE HAVE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE PRODUCT SAFETY WARNINGS AND NOTICES OF RECALLS. WITH OUR CONSUMER PROTECTION DIVISION. ONE THING IS RELATIVELY NEW THAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE WITH TODD BROCADE IS PUTTING OUT IS AN EMPHASIS ON CYBERSECURITY. OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS CYBER ATTACKS AGAINST THE PUBLIC HAVE GONE UP ABOUT 62 PERCENT WORLDWIDE AND IN PARTICULAR HUNDRED 58 PERCENT FOR, IN NORTH AMERICA ALONE. I'VE GOTTEN CALLS ABOUT PHONE SCAMS AND ROBO CALLS SO WE DO INVESTIGATE THOSE AS PART OF THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. I KNOW AT LEAST THE ATTORNEY GENERAL LIKES TO BELIEVE HE AND STAFF LIKE ME SERVE WITH THAT SERVANT HEART .

WE GO OUT AND OFFERED THE SERVICES TO FOR THE PUBLIC AND I'M HERE TO LET YOU KNOW THE SERVICES WE HAVE AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS NOT THE LAST CONVERSATION WE HAVE BUT WE HAVE AN ONGOING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN YOU AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT I HAVE JANE FLECK. >> THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SAY IS I'M JANE FLECK. I AM HERE CONCERNING THE GOAT. WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS TO YOU. THANK YOU. ALL OF YOU HAVE WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS SUBJECT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN HEARD AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. AND ALSO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO KEVIN BECAUSE YOU HAVE REALLY HELPED COME TOGETHER ON THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED, THE CONCERNS THAT WE PASS. AND SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JILL MEISENHEIMER. ER.

>> MY NAME IS JILL MEISENHEIMER. I WRITE CCR SEEDS CARMEL CITIZENS FOR RESPONSIBLE NEWSLETTER TO INFORM NEIGHBORS ABOUT CURRENT MOMENT PROPOSALS. I WOULD LIKE

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>> ALAN COHEN. >> MY NAME IS ALAN COHEN AND I HAVE THE HOME AT 248 SECOND STREET SOUTHWEST. I'M THE NEIGHBOR JUST ADJACENT TO THE GOAT. I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE AGENDA ITEM 12 B. THE GOAT REZONING PETITION. ANY OTHER BUSINESS WOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE ON THIS PROPERTY AND DO SO WITHOUT ANY, AND ANY WEIGHT NEGATIVELY AFFECTING THE HOMEOWNERS, THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN GENERAL. THE GOAT IS NOT ONE OF THOSE. HOW AN ADULT ONLY LATE-NIGHT BAR WITH UP TO 300 PATRONS AND WITH THE OPERATING HISTORY OF THE GOAT IS AN APPROPRIATE BUSINESS BUFFER TO OUR HEAVY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEFIES LOGIC. THIS WILL BE A MISTAKE THAT THIS COUNCIL AND THE CITY WILL COME TO REGRET. IN SPITE OF ALL THE INFORMATION AND EVIDENCE THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED AGAINST THIS REZONING IF YOU ALLOW THE GOAT TO REOPEN I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THE SALIENT COMMENTS OF COUNCILMAN AASEN AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE COMMITTEE MEETING LAST WEEK. HE OBJECTED TO THE PROPOSED CLOSING HOURS OF 12 ON THE WEEKDAYS AND ONE ON THE WEEKENDS. HE STATED THE GOAT HAS A CLIENTELE ISSUE. THESE

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ALL DAY ESPECIALLY DURING THE LATE HOURS THEY WILL BE SERVING A VERY DIFFERENT CLIENTELE WITH A VERY DIFFERENT ATMOSPHERE. I'M ASKING THE CITY TO VOTE NO ON THIS REZONING PETITION. IF YOU DECIDE OTHERWISE AND ALLOW THE GOAT TO REOPEN TREATED LIKE IT'S ONLY TRUE COMPETITOR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 3 UP AND MAKE HIM CLOSE ACCORDINGLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[7. COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS]

>> THANK YOU EVERYONE. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT TO LET JACOB GET THE COMPUTER HOOKED UP. DISABILITY AWARENESS MONTH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. COUNSELOR CAMPBELL HAS MADE THIS MORNING OF HER MISSIONS IN THIS VIDEO IS GOING TO SET IT UP NICELY. WERE GOING TO TAKE A MINUTE. EVERYBODY BREATHE. IT'S WORTH THE WAIT. NO PRESSURE JACOB. YOU ARE ON TV.

>> MR. PRESIDENT, WHILE HE IS WORKING ON IT CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE COMMITTEE ON DISABILITY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE CARMEL ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON DISABILITY WAS FORMED THROUGH AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY IN 2019.

IT WAS A PREVIOUS COUNCIL THAT PASSED IT. WE HAVE THE CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE CURRENT COUNCIL AND WERE VERY THANKFUL FOR IT. WE WORK TO PUT TOGETHER THIS VIDEO WITH THE CITY, CANDY MARTIN, EVERYBODY DID AN AMAZING JOB. IT WAS THE FINAL EDIT WAS THIS AFTERNOON AND I APPRECIATE JACOB TAKING IT AT WHAT, 5 O'CLOCK? MAYBE 5 O'CLOCK THIS

AFTERNOON. ARE YOU READY TO GO? >> I THINK SO.

>> OKAY. [MUSIC] >> WHERE'S 1990 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ENACTED THE

AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT. THE ADA. >> PROHIBITS DISCRIMINATION AGAINST DISABLED AMERICANS. REQUIRE EMPLOYERS TO PROVIDE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS TO EMPLOYEES WITH DISABILITIES AND IMPOSES ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS ON PUBLIC

ACCOMMODATIONS. AND WHAT ABOUT. >> WHERE'S THE MONTH OF MARCH

2022 HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS DISABILITY AWARENESS MONTH. >> TO SERVE AMERICANIZED PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES BY THE GOVERNOR IN THE STATE OF INDIANA AND? WHEREAS FAMILY

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LIVES OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. [MUSIC]. >> WHEREAS DISABILITY IS A NATURAL PART OF THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE AND IN NO WAY DIMINISHES THE RIGHT OF

INDIVIDUALS. >> WITH DISABILITIES TO LIVING INDEPENDENTLY.

>> MAKE CHOICES, CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY AND EXPERIENCE FULL. >> ECONOMICAL, POLITICAL,

SOCIAL, EDUCATIONAL MAIN STREET OF AMERICA IN SOCIETY AND. >> WHERE THE GOALS OF THE CITY AND STATE PROPERLY INCLUDE PROVIDING INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES THE OPPORTUNITY IS

AND SUPPORT TO MAKE INFORMED CHOICES AND DECISIONS. >> HELPING THEIR COMMUNITY.

WHERE AN AVERAGE TO CAN ACCESS THEIR FULL RIGHTS. >> AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO

PRODUCTIVE LIVES. >> COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR FAMILY, NATION OF ABOUT.

>> AND IN CONCLUSION IN SOCIETY. >> THEREFORE I, JAMES BRAINARD MAYOR OF THE CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MARCH 2022 AS DISABILITY AWARENESS MONTH. IN THE CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA ND INVITE ALL CITIZENS TO DULY NOTE THIS OCCASION. WITH THIS WHEREOF, I HEAR SUBSCRIBE MY NAME AND CAUSE A SEAL FOR THE CITY OF

CARMEL TO BE AFFIXED. [APPLAUSE] >> THE VIDEO SHOWED A WIDE RANGE OF BUSINESSES AND PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE SCHOOLS. JUST AROUND THE CITY WHO HAVE BEN SUPPORTIVE OF THIS INITIATIVE. AGAIN I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO WAS INVOLVED WITH PUTTING THIS VIDEO TOGETHER. IT WAS A TREMENDOUS EFFORT AND TO GET IT OUT TODAY, CANDY, AGAIN THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND JACOB, I DO WANT TO MENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE WORKING ON THIS MONTH THAT WE HAVE FOR PUBLIC VIEWING. ONE IS A VIRTUAL ART EXHIBIT THAT WAS GATHERED BY OUR COMMITTEE MEMBER WENDY KEE PHONE.

MICHELLE PART FROM CARMEL RESIDENTS OF ALL AGES AND ABILITIES. IT CAN BE VIEWED ON THE ART COUNCIL'S WEBSITE OR MOLD ARTS COUNSIL.ORG. NOTE BE SHOWN ON THE MIDTOWN SCREEN.

JACK RUSSELL PRESIDENT OF ONE'S OWN CHAMBER HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR INITIATIVES.

THIS WEDNESDAY, MARCH 9 FROM 11 ? ONE OF THE FORM EVENT CENTER.GARTNER WILL DISCUSS A PHOTOGRAPHIC JOURNEY THROUGH AN INACCESSIBLE WORLD 2022. IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE DISABILTY CAN HAPPEN ANY TIME IN ANYBODY'S LIFE. WHETHER THROUGH AN ACCIDENT OR ILLNESS OR AS PART OF THE AGING PROCESS. AS WE CREATE THESE BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITIES IN HAMILTON COUNTY SUCH AS CARMEL WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND HOW DO WE ENABLE PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THESE CITIES AS THEY AGE OR IF THEY DO END UP WITH SOME TYPE OF DISABILITY. I APPRECIATE THAT ONE'S OWN IS TAKING A LOOK AT THIS AT THIS MONTH'S MEETING. LONG BEFORE WE CREATED THE DISABILITY COMMITTEE, THE CARMEL PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS HAD A NUMBER OF PROGRAM OFFERINGS FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. HIS ANNUAL BARRIER FREE THEATER PERFORMANCE IN HONOR OF DISABILITY AWARENESS MONTH WILL BE AT THE LOAN ON COMMUNITY CENTER THIS COMING MARCH 12 AT 6 PM AND MARCH 13 AT 2 PM ASL INTERPRETER WILL BE PROVIDED FOR THE SATURDAY SHOWING. I WANTED TO INVITE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND THEIR

[8. CONSENT AGENDA]

THE CITY. THEY GET TO THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU COUNSELOR CAMPBELL. THAT WAS AN OUTSTANDING VIDEO. NUMBER 8, CONSENT AGENDA. APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 21, 2022 REGULAR MEETING. BE CLAIMS. PAYROLL 3,000,003 AND

$42,046.16. TOTAL CLAIMS OF $2,147,158.73. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. NUMBER 9 ACTUAL ON MAYOR

[9. ACTION ON MAYORAL VETOES]

[10. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

COUNCILMAN WORRELL? >> WE HAVE NOT MET I DO NOT HAVE ANY ITEMS BEFORE US.

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>> LAND USE SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE. COUNSELOR CAMPBELL?

>> THINK IT MR. PRESIDENT. WE MET LAST WEEK TO DISCUSS FOR A SECOND TIME C673 ? 22. THE GOAT REZONE AND I WILL DISCUSS THIS FURTHER LATER IN THE AGENDA.

[11. OTHER REPORTS – (at the first meeting of the month specified below): ]

>> THANK YOU. 11 CARMEL REDEVELOPING COMMISSION. >>> GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. HENRY MISSED AT SKI, CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. I'M GOING TO DISCUSS THE ACTIVITIES WE DEVELOP MEANT ACTIVITIES FOR LAST MONTH. FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY WE ENDED WITH A LITTLE OVER 13 MILLION IN TOTAL FUNDS. ABOUT 5 MILLION OF UNRESTRICTED FUNDS. CITY CENTER CONTINUES TO SEE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION. HELEN PLAYFAIR IS FINISHING UP LEASING OUT THEIR APARTMENTS. I BELIEVE THE FIRST RETAIL FLOOR IS FULL. I WAS IN INDUSTRIOUS LATE LAST WEEK. I THINK THE RENT 70 OR 80 PERCENT OCCUPANCY. IT'S GOING PRETTY WELL. LOTS OF CONSTRUCTION THERE. THE BRAND BUILDING IS THE ONE YOU SEE STEEL GOING OUT FOR RIGHT NOW. THAT VIEW ON THE TOP RIGHT IS, PRETEND YOU'RE STANDING OUTSIDE CAKE BAKE THAT'S WHAT SHE WOULD BE SEEING. THE BOTTOM LEFT FIELD, THE BUILDING IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF THE AMPHITHEATER IS THE WINDSOR BUILDING THAT'S GOING UP SOON BUT YOU CAN SEE THE SEVENTH FLOOR OF THE RENTED BUILDING RISING ABOVE THAT WINDSOR BUILDING. IT'S GOING TO CREATE NOW THAT WE HAVE THE FAMILY APARTMENTS AND OUR VETERANS MEMORIAL. ONE SIDE OF OUR CENTRAL SORRY CARTER GREENE THIS WILL BE A NICE VIEW ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW. THEY FINALLY GOT STEEL DELIVERED. THIS PROJECTS BEEN APPROVED FOR A WHILE. FINALLY STILL GOT IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS SO YOU CAN SEE IT GOING UP AND SOON IT WILL BE UP TO US OVER THE STORY AND IT WILL LOOK REALLY GOOD. AFTER THE BRAND GETS BUILT IS WHEN THE CARMEL STEPS GET PUT IN TRUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE RIM TO ALLOW EASIER ACCESS BETWEEN THE CARTER GREENE GROUND-LEVEL AND THE SECOND LEVEL WHERE MOST OF OUR CITY CENTER SHOPS ARE LOCATED. MAKE THAT ACCESS EASIER. PROSCENIUM CONTINUES CONSTRUCTION.

FINALIZING THE APARTMENTS FACING THE NEW DETENTION REGIONAL DETENTION/PARK. MORE MORE BUSINESSES ARE FILLING UP THE OFFICE BUILDING. I BELIEVE THERE'S ONLY 3000 SQUARE FEET LEFT. EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING HAS BEEN FILLED WITH HEADQUARTERS. THE LAUNCH CONTINUES TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. IT'S GOING WELL.

THE FIRST ON N MAIN IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION OSSIBLE LOOK TO SEE THE GARAGE GO FIRST AND THEN THE OFFICE BUILDING. I'VE PREVIOUSLY SHARED THAT THE ROTARY CLOCK IS STAYING BECAUSE IT IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR HISTORY AT THAT CORNER. MAGNOLIA TOWNHOME PORTION IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE PERMITS FOR THE FIRST 2 BUILDINGS AND THOSE ARE IN CONSTRUCTION NOW. THE CORNER IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WELL. THIS IS 1/16 ? LINE. CITY ENGINEERING WILL BE WORKING ON ROUNDABOUTS AT THAT INTERSECTION LATER THIS YEAR AS WELL. LOTS OF CHANGES COMING TO OUR RIDGELINE CORRIDOR. THE SIGNATURE PROJECT, THIS IS ACROSS FROM THE OLIVIA AT MERIDIAN AND MAIN STREET. IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WELL. IT WILL BE A NICE VIEW FOR OUR RESIDENTS COMING FROM THE WEST SIDE. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE TWIN TOWERS FOR SEVERAL MILES AWAY. IT WILL BE BEAUTIFUL. CONSTRUCTION IS IN FULL SWING ON THE CIVIC SQUARE PARKING GARAGE. AGAIN THE INTENT IS FOR THE GARAGE TO BE READY TO GO AND READY TO BE USED WHEN THE NEW COURTHOUSE CONSTRUCTION REALLY BEGINS.

SO, IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE THERE UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR ALREADY WITH CAST IN PLACE CONCRETE ON

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>> CANCEL MARKETING QUESTIONS FOR HENRY? IF NOT GOING TO BACK UP. YOU DID SUCH A GOOD JOB WITH YOUR VIDEO I FORGOT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS A RIGHT TO TALK TO YELLOW. ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JUST WHEN IT TAKE A MOMENT TO BRING ANY RUNS ATTENTION THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE. THE BRAVERY AND TO OUR BRAVERY SINNING UP TO A DICTATOR HAS BEEN INSPIRATIONAL. THOSE HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES TO THIS NEEDLESS WAR MAY THEIR MEMORIES BE A BLESSING. THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT.

>> MY PLEASURE AND I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. NEXT, WE HAVE OLD BUSINESS. 6 THE READING OF

[12. OLD BUSINESS]

SPONSOR OR COUNSELOR RIDER. THE REMAINS OF NONUSE AND SPECIAL STUDIES. THE APPEAL WAS DENIED ON THE GAS STATION IN WEST CLAY. SO FROM HERE WE WILL END UP IN COURT OR GOES

AWAY. >> MR. PRESIDENT? >> YES?

>> WAS A PURPOSE FOR KEEPING IT AS IT IS FROM THIS POINT? >> MR. OBERLANDER?

>> >> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL JOHN OBERLANDER CORPORATION COUNSELOR. I WOULD RECOMMEND FOR NOWI WOULD LEAVE IT IN N COMMITTEE UNTIL FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS ARISE IN THE FIELD TO SEE IF IT'S A PILL TO HAMILTON COUNTY.

>> MR. PRESIDENT? >> IS HER TIMELINE ON THIS? >> THEY HAVE 30 DAYS FROM THE

BZA'S DECISION. IT'LL BE IN THE NEAR TERM. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT, THIRD READING OF ORDINANCES C673 ? 2 TO THE GOAT REZONE IN ORDER TO THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE STATE OF CARMEL INDIANA REZONING TO 22ND STREET SOUTHWEST FROM OUR ? 2 RESIDENTIAL 2B ? 2 BUSINESS SPONSOR IS COUNSELOR WRITER. THIS WAS BACK FROM LAND-USE AND

SPECIAL STUDIES. >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. THIS COMES BACK TO COUNCIL WITH A 4 ? 2 VOTE, NO MMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE. THIS WAS AFTER A MOTION BY COUNSELOR GREEN TO SEND IT BACK THE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION WITH THE REVISED COMMITMENTS.

IT DID NOT PASS. WE DISCUSSED AND COUNSELOR RIDER SAID HE WANTED THIS TO COME OUT OF COMMITTEE AND WHETHER HE PULLED IT OR WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION. COUNSELOR NELSON MADE THE MOTION TO SEND IT BACK WITH NO RECOMMENDATION. I ANTICIPATE, I KNOW WE RECEIVED COPIES OF THE UPDATED COMMITMENTS BUT I THINK SEVERAL COUNSELORS STILL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE

COMMITMENTS. >> THANK YOU. ONE COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE. THE REASON I ASKED THE COMMITTEE TO FIND A WAY TO GET IT OUT OF COMMITTEE AS PRESIDENT I DIDN'T HAVE TO PULL IT OUT OF COMMITTEE WAS THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T FOLLOW THE RIVETING BUSINESS THAT WE DO ON A REGULAR BASIS. WHEN SOMETHING COMES FROM US ON PLANNING COMMISSION WERE ON A TIMEFRAME. IF WE DIDN'T ACT ON THIS OR VOTE ON THIS BY 21 MARCH IT WOULD JUST BECOME LAW.

THAT WOULD BE US NOT DOING OUR DUTY. WE DON'T DO THAT. MY 14 YEARS WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT ONCE. WERE SUPPOSED TO DO OUR JOB AND DOING OUR JOB IS TO RULE ON THIS UP OR DOWN. SO THAT'S THE REASON I ASKED FOR TO GET OUT OF COMMITTEE. I WILL LISTEN TO THE ATTORNEY

HERE FOR SECOND. >> VICKI MR. PRESIDENT. MY NAME IS TONY PECK AND ELLIE

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FURTHER TO THE COMMENT THAT COUNSELOR CAMPBELL MADE. SINCE THE DISCUSSIONS AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING LAST WEEK MY CLIENT HAS BEEN TO NEED TO CUT DISCUSSIONS WITH DOCS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS. MY OFFICE HAS BEEN A COMMUNICATIONS FAIRLY FREQUENTLY WITH CITY LEGAL INCLUDING DRAFTS OF DOCUMENTS DIRECTLY BEFORE 5:00 PM THIS AFTERNOON. WITH YOUR PERMISSION MR. PRESIDENT I LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE LATEST DRAFT OF THE COMMITMENTS THAT MY CLIENT HAS AUTHORIZED. THIS IS A DRAFT I BELIEVE YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THAT WAS APPROVED AND FINALIZED BY MR. OBERLANDER JUST BEFORE 5 O'CLOCK THIS AFTERNOON.

>> GIVE ME ONE SECOND. COUNCIL BEFORE HE READS INTO THE RECORD DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU OR DO YOU WANT TO HEAR IT READ IN FIRST? GO AHEAD AND READ.

>> BEFORE IDEAL, I WOULD LIKE TO LET EVERYONE KNOW MR. PAUL IS HERE AS MR. MORIARTY WAS A PRINCIPAL ARCHITECT ON THE RENOVATIONS THAT ARE THE SUBJECT OF THE COMMITMENTS.

OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE THIS EVENING. THE DOCUMENT I'M READING IS AND TIDED REZONE APPLICATION COMMITMENTS.

TOMAHAWK HOLDINGS LLC, OWNER OF THE ESTATE LOCATED AT 220 SECOND STREET SOUTHWEST. IN FRANK HAWKINS ADDITION LOT NUMBER ONE, THE PROPERTY. THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IT OF WHICH IS ATTACHED HERETO AS EXHIBIT A AND DOING BUSINESS AS THE GOAT. IN CONSIDERATION OF THE APPROVAL OF ITS REZONE APPLICATION FOR THE PROPERTY FROM OUR ? 22B ? 2 COMMITS AS FOLLOWS. ONE, THE OWNER AGREES TO EXPAND AND CONFIGURE THE BUILDING FROM WHICH THE GOAT WAS OPERATING AS TAVERN BUSINESS OF THE PROPERTY. IN THE MANNER SUBSTANTIALLY SET FORTH IN THE PLANS AND DRAWINGS SUBMITTED TO THE CARMEL COMMON COUNCIL. BUT ARCHITECT DAN MORIARTY. THE EXPANSION. PRIOR TO COMMENCING THE STRUCTURAL MODIFICATIONS TO THE EXISTING FACILITIES AND SITE THE OWNER SHALL SUBMIT A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING AND SIGNAGE A DLS APPLICATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES, THE DOCS APPEARED FOR CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION APPROVAL AND SHALL FURTHER OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY PERMITS, I.E. A BUILDING PERMIT AND STORMWATER PERMIT AS WELL AS ANY REQUIRED VARIANCES FROM THE CARMEL BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS. THEY SHALL FURTHER APPLY FOR THE CARMEL UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AS AMENDED. WHICH THEN INCORPORATED HEREIN BY REFERENCE. EXCUSE ME BY THIS REFERENCE. THE OTHER COMMITS TO NOT RESUME ANY BUSINESS OPERATIONS WHATSOEVER AT THE PROPERTY UNTIL THE EXPANSION HAS BEEN FULLY CONSTRUCTED AND CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS ISSUED BY DOCS. 2 THE OWNER AGREES TO END OUTSIDE AND PERGOLA PATIO FOOD AND BAR SERVICES AT 7:00 PM DAILY.

CLOSE EXTERIOR DOORS AND WINDOWS INCLUDING ALL GARAGE DOORS AND WINDOWS BETWEEN THE INTERIOR SEATING AREA AND THE PERGOLA PATIO AREA. SO THAT ONLY INTERIOR SERVICE WILL OCCUR AFTER THAT TIME. AND TO REMOVE OUTSIDE PATRONS FROM THE OUTDOOR AND PERGOLA PATIO SEATING AREA BY 7:40 5 PM. THE DIRECTOR OF THE CARMEL DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES, THE DIRECTOR, AND THE OWNER AGREE TO PERIODICALLY REVIEW OUTSIDE AND PERGOLA PATIO FOOD AND BAR SERVICES TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE OUTSIDE SERVICE AREA NEEDS TO BE ENCLOSED WITH PERMANENT GLASS WINDOWS. IF IT IS DETERMINED BY THE DIRECTOR IN WRITING AT HIS SOLE DISCRETION THAT THE OUTSIDER PERGOLA PATIO SERVICE AREA HAS BECOME, NUISANCE BASED ON SUBSTANTIATED COMPLAINTS OR IS OTHERWISE IN VIOLATION OF THESE COMMITMENTS. OWNER AGREES TO IMMEDIATELY DISCONTINUE THE USE OF THE OUTDOOR AND PERGOLA PATIO SERVICE AREA UNTIL SUCH TIME AS IT IS FULLY ENCLOSED WITH PERMANENT GLASS WINDOWS. THE OWNER MAY FILE WITH THE COUNCIL A WRITTEN REQUEST FOR REVIEW AND RECONSIDERATION OF THE DIRECTORS WRITTEN DECISION WITHIN 10 DAYS OF SAID DECISION. SETTING FORTH IN DETAIL THE FACTS SUPPORTING THE OWNER'S REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION. THE REQUEST SHALL, IF REASONABLY POSSIBLE BE HEARD BY THE COUNCIL BY 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF FILING.

THE OWNER AGREES TO COMPLY WITH THE DIRECTOR'S DECISION DURING SUCH PERIOD OF RECONSIDERATION.

3 THE OWNER AGREES TO ESTABLISH AND MAINTAIN A NEIGHBOR HOTLINE, PHONE LINE FOR THE NEIGHBORS CONCERNS. OWNER WILL PROVIDE A WEEKLY REPORT TO DOCS AND THE COUNCIL THAT INCLUDES THE NUMBER OF CALLS MADE TO THE HOTLINE ALONG WITH A SUMMARY OF EACH CALL DURING THE FIRST 3 MONTHS OF THE PROPERTIES OPERATION. 4 THE OWNER AGREES TO REFRAIN FROM GRAB AND GO SURFACE AND REQUIRES PATRONS TO CONSUME PURCHASED ALCOHOL ON THE PROPERTY. 5 THE OWNER COMMITS TO END ALCOHOL SERVICE AT 11:30 P.M. SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND 12:30 P.M. ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND HOLIDAYS. CLOSE THE PHYSICAL FACILITY 30 MINUTES THEREAFTER. THE OWNER

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ADOPT EARLIER CLOSING HOURS WITH THOSE PROVIDED IN THIS PARAGRAPH. 6, THE OWNER COMMITS TO USE NO OUTDOOR SPEAKERS. 7, THESE MAVENS SHALL BE IN EFFECT UNTIL THEY ARE MODIFIED OR TERMINATED. THESE COMMITMENTS SHALL ONLY BE MODIFIED OR TERMINATED BY THE PROCEDURE PRESCRIBED IN INDIANA CODE SECTION 36 ? 7 ? 4 ? 1015 B5 OR AS PRESCRIBED HEREIN. 8 THESE COMMITMENTS ARE BINDING UPON THE OWNER AND THE OWNER'S SUCCESSORS, ASSIGNS AND GRANTEES WITH RESPECT TO THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY OWNED BY SUCH SUCCESSOR ASSIGNED AND GRANTEE AND DURING SUCH SUCCESSORS AND ASSIGNS A GRANTEE'S OWNERSHIP. MOST MODIFIED OR TERMINATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL PURSUANT TO THE REQUIREMENTS HEREIN. HOWEVER, THESE COMMITMENTS SHALL TERMINATE AS TO ANY PART OR PARTS OF THE PROPERTY FOR WHICH THE SONY DISTRICT OR PCLASSIFICATION IS LATER CHANGED. 9 THE DIRECTOR SHALL RECORD THESE COMMITMENTS AND ANY MODIFICATIONS THEREOF WITH THE RECORDER OFFICE OF HAMILTON COUNTY INDIANA AND SHALL PROVIDE A COPY OF THE RECORDED COMMITMENTS TO THE OWNER.

OWNER AGREES TO REIMBURSE DOCS FOR THE FEES CHARGED BY THE OFFICE OF THE HAMILTON COUNTY RECORDER TO RECORD THESE COMMISSIONS AND ANY SUBSEQUENT EDIFICATION'S. FOREGOING

COMMITMENTS ARE MADE ON THIS BLANK DAY OF BLANK 2022. >> GAVE MR. PRESIDENT.

>> COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNSELOR AASEN. >> THINK MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL START OFF BY SAYING SOME OF THESE COMMENTS, SOME OF THESE COMMITMENTS ARE PRETTY IMPRESSED BY WHERE WE'VE COME SO FAR. I WAS A NO VOTE OF THE LAND USE COMMITTEE AND I HAVE MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE HOURS AND THE ENCLOSURE. I GOING TO HAVE TO COMMEND MR. PAUL FOR THE WORK THEY'VE DONE TO GET THE HOURS SHORTENED. TO GET THE ENCLOSURE PUT IN THERE. I THINK A LOT OF PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE HERE. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION IN GETTING

THIS TO A WORKABLE STATE. >> COUNSELOR WORRELL. >> CAN YOU CLARIFY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SO MANY THINGS. WHAT IS THE STANCE? IT'S NOT CITED IN THE COMMITMENTS GUARDING LIVE

MUSIC. >> I'LL DEFER TO MY CLIENT WHO CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION MUCH

BETTER . MR. PAUL IS IN THE AUDIENCE. KEVIN? >> WE HONESTLY HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT. WE HAVEN'T HAD LIVE MUSIC SINCE THE VERY FIRST WEEKEND WE HEADED OUTSIDE. THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO BE TO HAVE LIVE MUSIC WE HAVE AT THAT MONON SQUARE. WE CAN CLOSE IT DOESN'T LEAVE ME A LOT OF SPACE TO HAVE ANY BANDS. I WOULD LOVE TO ENTERTAIN HAVING SMALL 3 JAZZ BANDS OR SOLO ARTISTS. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO HAVE A 3 OR 4 PERSON LIVE VIDEO. IT'S JUST WILL BE SET UP FOR IT. YOU CAN WALK THROUGH PROBABLY SET THE STRUCTURE UP. IT HAD NEVER BEEN DISCUSSED AS A COMMITMENT. AS TO WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE

OR HOW THAT WOULD BE. >> COUNSELOR HANNON? >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. I CERTAINLY WANT TO SAY FIRST I HAVE EMPATHY AND UNDERSTANDING FOR MR. PAUL AND THE GOAT WINNERS, SMALL BUSINESS OWNER MYSELF. TO ME THE ISSUE STARTS WITH THE APPROPRIATE USE FOR THIS PARCEL SHOULD HAVE BEEN MANAGED A FRONT. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS. THIS IS GROWING SOUND AS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WITH A VARIANCE FOR A RESTAURANT THAT OPERATED UNLIMITED HOURS LIKE BUBS CAF?. SO PRIOR TO ANY PERMITS BEING GIVEN OUT AND PRIOR TO SHOVELS ON THE GROUND OR DOLLARS EXPENDED WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKING THIS QUESTION AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME. I BELIEVE THAT THE BZA LOOKING AT THE APPROPRIATE USE OF THIS PARCEL WITHIN 6 FEET OF A COUPLE OF SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE WOULD LIKELY NOT HAVE PERMITTED A LATE-NIGHT TAVERN. AGAIN, IT HAD IT GONE UPFRONT PRIOR TO ANY DOLLARS BEING SPENT AND THE PRECEDENTS I BELIEVE HAD GONE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE

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GOAT OWNERS OF NOT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. >> COUNSELOR GREEN.

>> JOHN I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'VE BEEN AT THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS OF WE'VE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSION ON ENFORCEMENT POWERS. NUMBER OF COUNSELORS OVER THE LAST YEAR PUT IN A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING WORK. THERE'S BEEN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LACK OF TRUST ON ANY COMMITMENTS WE HAVE IN OUR ABILITY TO ENFORCE THOSE COMMITMENTS. SO UNDERSTAND THE MAYOR HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE THE ORDINANCES BUT THE QUESTIONS BEEN ASKED,, COUNCIL MAKE SOME TYPE OF ACTION VIA MAJORITY VOTE PRESSING SOME TYPE OF RESOLUTION FORCING THE CITY TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST THE GOAT OWNER IF THEY VIOLATE THE

COMMITMENTS? >> YES. PURSUANT TO STATE STATUTE THE REASON YOU'RE ABLE TO REQUIRE THESE COMMITMENTS AS PART OF A RESUME IS SET FORTH IN THE INDIANA CODE. IT STATES THAT THE BODY BUT THE COMMITMENTS ARE MADE TO IS THE ONE TO ENFORCE IT. IF THE COMMITMENT FOR ME TO PLANNING COMMISSION THEN FINDING COMMISSION CAN COUNCIL COULD REVOKE TO HAVE MY OFFICE TAKE LEGAL ACTION TO ENFORCE THE COMMITMENTS.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. MIKE MY COLLEAGUE HERE DOCTOR HANNON I'M ALSO SYMPATHETIC TO SMALL BUSINESSES. MY QUESTION IS, THE PETITIONER'S DONE A LOT TO REDUCE THE NOISE AND THAT'S TERRIFIC. WHAT ABOUT ENSURING THAT ON BUSY NIGHTS THAT PEOPLE DON'T GO TO THE NEIGHBORS LAWN AND URINATE AND DO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS?

>> I WILL REFER TO MR. PAUL BECKHAM TALK ABOUT THE SECURITY STEPS AND THE OWNER HOTLINE THAT ARE BEING PUT INTO PLACE TO RESPOND TO THOSE PARTICULAR ISSUES.

>>. >> MR. PAUL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU NOT YOUR MANAGER.

>> SORRY, HE JUST IS THE OPERATIONAL PERSON RESPONSIBLE.

>> YOU MAKE THE DECISIONS. >> I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT. WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS SINCE THE ISSUES IN THE DECEMBER DATES TO CLOSE AND REOPEN. WE HAVE AN LIVE CAM THAT'S POINTED ON THE PATHWAY FROM OUR PROPERTY TO ADJOINING PROPERTIES THAT ARE FED INTO THE FACILITY. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SIGNS PUT UP OBVIOUSLY NOT TRESPASSING AND NEIGHBOR PROPERTY. WHAT WE HAVE LIGHTS ON MOTION SENSORS AND CAMERAS CAPTURED ACTIVITY AND REALLY DETERRING ANYONE FROM ENTERING DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE NEIGHBORS PROPERTY.

SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE AT YOUR HOME. A NUMBER OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE ALL PUTTING THEIR FENCES UP NOW. IT'S HVING PEDESTRIANS OR CUSTOMERS ZIPPING THROUGH YARDS IS EVERY DAY THAT GOES BY IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO DO THAT. WHETHER YOU'RE TRYING TO GET UPTOWN TO MAIN STREET OR CUT THE CORNERS AND GET THROUGH DELTA MONON

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>> THANK YOU. >> COUNSELOR CAMPBELL. >> THINK IT MR. PRESIDENT.

THIS QUESTION HAD COME UP A COUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT WHETHER WE COULD PUT SOMETHING IN THE COMMITMENTS ABOUT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SECURITY PEOPLE ON SITE. MR. OBERLANDER EXPLAINED THAT OVER STEPS COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY THAT THE PETITIONER HAS TO AGREE TO THE COMMITMENTS AND WHATEVER IT TAKES. PUTTING WORDS IN HIS MOUTH. IN MY COVERING IT PRETTY WELL? I DON'T WANT THE COUNCIL TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND I THINK THERE'S A PROCESS IN PLACE BUT WE CANNOT PUT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SECURITY ON SITE.

>> THAT'S CORRECT COUNSELOR CAMPBELL. THE INDIANA CODE THAT PERMITS THESE COMMITMENTS THEY HAVE TO BE TIED TO THE USE AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY AND I THINK THAT COULD BE GOING OVER THAT CRITERIA IF WE ACTUALLY GET DOWN TO ABOUT FINE-GRAINED LEVEL OF OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT. I THINK IT'S UP TO THE PETITIONER AND THE LAND OWNER TO ENSURE BY WHATEVER MEANS HE FEELS IS NECESSARY TO COMPLY WITH WHAT THE COMMITMENTS REQUIRED.

>> MR. OBERLANDER AND I HAVE THE CONVERSATION ALSO. ONE OF MY COMMENTS WAS IT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY HOW THEY MEET OUR COMMITMENTS. IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO MEET OUR COMMITMENTS. SO WE DON'T NEED TO TELL THEM HOW TO DO IT THEY JUST NEED TO DO IT. I EVEN TALKED TO POLICE CHIEF TODAY AND TOLD HIM IF THIS PASSES, IF A CALL IS MADE I EXPECT A REPORT TO BE WRITTEN. IT WILL BE A VERBAL STOP DOING THIS. IT WILL BE A REPORT WRITTEN.

IT WILL BE DOCUMENTED. BUT, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO I THINK MR. PAUL BELIEVES AND KNOWS HE HAS TO LIVE UP TO THESE COMMITMENTS TO BE IN BUSINESS THERE. AND IT'S GOING TO BE HIS RESPONSIBILITY WHETHER IT'S WITH SECURITY OR WHATEVER IT IS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

>> COUNSELOR CAMPBELL IF I MAY ADD TO THAT END. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, AT THAT POINT COMMISSION OR COMBINATION. FURTHER TO PRESIDENT RIDER'S POINT. IT'S GOOD BUSINESS FOR MR. PAUL AND FOR THE GOAT TO HAVE SECURITY GUARDS THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION OF OFF-DUTY COUNTY POLICE OFFICERS SERVING SECURITY GUARDS TO MAKE IT ALL THAT MUCH EASIER FOR MY CLIENT TO COMPLY

WITH THE COMMITMENTS. >> COUNSELOR WORRELL. >> THINK MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT I GUESS CONTEXT TO HOME GOING TO VOTE TONIGHT. A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE. I WANT TO REFRESH EVERYONE'S MEMORY THAT THIS STARTED OUT WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED, NOT TO THIS COUNCIL BUT THE COUNCIL BEFORE US IS A BARBECUE BOURBON AND CIGAR BAR. WHEN IT CAME BEFORE US FOR THE ALCOHOL PERMIT. I THINK WE ALL SAW THE GOAT UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THAT WAS MY ASSUMPTION MAY BE FALSELY WE WOULD HAVE A FACILITY SIMILAR TO WHAT EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE ARTS AND DESIGN DISTRICT IN THE MIDTOWN AREA SIMILAR TO THAT. OF COURSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE RECEIVED. IT WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT AND A SHOCK TO ME WHEN MY PHONE IN MY EMAIL WERE BLOWING UP AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING AND 3 O'CLOCK ABOUT MORNING.

>> COUNSELOR WORRELL. SIMPLY TURN YOUR PHONE OFF, PLEASE. KEEP GOING ASK I WAS GETTING INTO MY CADENCE CADENCE WITHOUT I THINK THERE IS IS BLAME BOTH IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO

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I THINK THERE WERE PROBABLY THAT IF NOT MORE STANDING IN THE OUTDOOR COMPONETS. SO 229 VISITORS OR CUSTOMERS TO THAT AREA I THINK THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. I THINK THAT GIVES US SOME INFORMATION WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE. THAT'S LOOKING AT THE LAYOUT. SO, FOR THOSE REASONS AND I AM COMFORTABLE NOW WITH THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE FOR THE HOURS. I'VE DECIDED THAT THIS IS NOT A PERFECT SITUATION. BUT THAT I AM GOING TO TRUST THAT THE OPERATOR WILL ABIDE BY THESE COMMITMENTS. THAT WE CAN STILL PROVIDE AN ENTERTAINMENT VENUE THAT IS REASONABLE IN CARMEL AND NOT WHAT WE HAD AND THEREFORE GOING TO GIVE YOU A

SECOND CHANCE AND I'M GOING TO VOTE IN FAVOR. >> ARE NOT TO CUT OFF COMMENTS BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE A POINT BEFORE HIM THAT MR. OBERLANDER AND I TALKED ABOUT. COULD HE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE REAL QUICK. PLEASE, KEVIN? MR. PAUL? THE COMMITMENTS WERE BENT INTO THE RECORD. I ALSO COUNCIL ANYONE ON COUNCIL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE COMMITMENTS? OR ANY CHANGES? MR. PAUL ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE COMMITMENTS? DO YOU AGREE WITH TO THE COMMITMENTS? WHOEVER MAKES A MOTION TONIGHT PLEASE ADD THESE COMMITMENTS TO YOUR MOTION AND THE FACT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE SIGNED AND RECORDED. WILL THAT TAKE CARE OF IT? THANK YOU. ONE COMMENT THAT I ALWAYS SAY AND I'VE SAID THIS FOR YEARS. I DON'T TAKE

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A SUCCESSFUL NEGOTIATION IS WHEN BOTH SIDES LEAVE A LITTLE BIT UNHAPPY. IF ONE SIDE IS TOTALLY HAPPY THE OTHER SIDE REALLY GOT THE BAD DEAL. I THINK WE'VE COME TO THAT POINT.

I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT COUNSELOR WORRELL SENT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNSELOR

FINKAM. >> THINK IT MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST OF ALL I THINK MR. PAUL AND HIS LEGAL TEAM FOR AGREEING TO THIS COMMITMENT IN THE WORK WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL TO GETTING US WHERE WE ARE TODAY. I'M A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. A BIKE TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE 2 STRICT. I LIKE TO SEE THIS OPEN TO THE MONON. WE BUILT THIS $23 MILLION SECTION 2 ENJOY AND PARTICIPATE IN. I'M A VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE I THINK WERE IN A GOOD PLACE. I WOULD HOPE THAT ANY FUTURE TIME WE CAN OPEN THESE DOORS AND HAVE COEXISTENCE WITH THE NEIGHBORS. BUT, IT MAKES ME WORRIED THAT WERE RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF OVERREACH AND I'VE BEEN COMFORTABLE WITH A COUPLE OF THESE. AGAIN I APPRECIATE THE WORK EVERYONE HAS PUT INTO IT AND I WILL SUPPORT THIS THIS EVENING.

>> I DO ALSO WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT MR. OBERLANDER AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS TOO. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS. ONCE THESE COMMITMENTS ARE MADE THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN BE CHANGED IS THROUGH THE COUNCIL. THE COMMITMENTS ARE LIKE SONY AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THE WORLD CHANGES. DOWN THE ROAD IF THERE IS DEVELOPED A LARGE TRUST, THE PETITIONER COMES COME BACK AND ASK FOR CHANGES. THE COUNCIL CAN SAY YES, SIR NO. IT'S NOTHING IS EVER TOTALLY WRITTEN IN STONE. IT'S THE WAY GOVERNMENT WORKS. ANY

OTHER COMMENTS? >> MR. PRESIDENT? >> MR. WORRELL.

>> WOULD YOU ENTERTAIN A MOTION? >> WE WENT.

>> I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE Z ? 673 ? 22 THE GOAT REZONE WITH THE AMENDMENTS OR WITH THE COMMITMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD. VELOCITY COMMITMENTS READ INTO THE RECORD AND THAT WILL ONLY BE APPROVED SIGNED AND FILED AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.

>> BEFORE WE GO SECOND OUR CITY ATTORNEY WANTS TO COMMENT. >> OH.

>> JUST ONE THING TO ADD. THERE WAS A SET OF COVENANTS THAT WAS ALSO INCLUDED THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION IF YOU COULD INCORPORATE THOSE AS WELL.

>> IS THAT WHEN I HEARD YOU SAY? >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> OKAY, THAT'S ON THE RECORD. YOU GOT THAT ON THE RECORD APPEARED TO HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> IS THERE ANY COMMENT? PLEASE VOTE. THAT IS 7 ? WIN.

LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD. PPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT, NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS. 13, 30

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>> MOVED TO INTRODUCE. >> SECOND. >> COUNSELOR WORRELL.

>> THANK YOU ARE JUST GETTING IN TO THAT. >> REAL QUICK IS NOT RUDE TO GET UP AND LEAVE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR. IF YOU WERE HERE FOR THE GOAT. DO NOT

WORRY ABOUT GETTING UP AND LEAVING. >> ALL RIGHT. OKAY THIS IS THE SYNOPSIS IS APPROPRIATE THIS FUNDS IN THE 8 ARP CORONAVIRUS LOCAL PHYSICAL RECOVERY FUND FOR THE PROVISION OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES PURSUANT TO THE ARP PLAN ADOPTED BY THE COMMON COUNCIL. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY EVERY APPROPRIATION FROM WHAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED LAST YEAR FOR THE 2021 ARP FUNDS. ASIDE FROM THE EMPLOYEE PREMIUM PAID WE HAD THERE WERE AROUND 2.7 MILLION THAT WAS LEFT OVER. THAT WAS APPROPRIATED FOR REPAVING AND AROUND ABOUT.

ABOUT 700,000 OF THAT WAS EARMARKED FOR PAVING AND WAS SPENT OR ENCUMBERED LAST YEAR.

THE ROUNDABOUT PROJECT WAS JUST TO FAR OUT. THERE WAS NO SCHEDULE THAT COULD BE REJECTED. NOW, THIS BRINGS IT IN LINE. WE KNOW WITH THE DOLLARS ARE AND FOSTERS APPROPRIATION HAD LAPSED. SO THIS APPROPRIATION JUST RE-AUTHORIZES WHAT HAD ALREADY BEEN DONE. SO, I LOOK FORWARD TO QUESTIONS, ETC. GOING TO ASK THAT WE SUSPEND THE RULES.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNSELOR HANNON. >> I DID HAVE A QUESTION I

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>> I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT COUNSELOR HANNON THIS COULD BE SPENT THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR. THEY CAN ONLY BE USED FOR REVENUE THAT WAS TIED TO LOST TAX REVENUE FROM THE PREVIOUS 2 YEARS. ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY FINAL RULE. THAT COULD BE USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING SUCH AS AROUND ABOUT. COULD IT BE USED FOR ANYTHING THAT DIDN'T FIT THAT DESCRIPTION. THAT IS THE PLAN TO SPEND IT ON. IT'S THE CITY CENTER AND

VETERANS WEIGHT ROUNDABOUT. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THIS IS

STILL PART OF THE FIRST INSTALLMENT. CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> SECOND INSTALLMENT COMES AROUND JUNE? >> THAT'S CORRECT. THESE ARE

THE FUNDS THAT WERE DEPOSITED 2020. >> WHAT IS A SECOND INSTALL THE

COMMAND? >> JUNE OF THIS YEAR. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. > MR. PRESIDENT, PBLIC HEARING.

>> GOOD POINT. YOU HAVE THAT FIGURE ON THE MICRO ROOM TO OUR MICROPHONE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AFTER OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:AWAIT ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST RUSH TO THE MICROPHONE. NOBODY'S MOVING. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7 AND 12 SECONDS. NOW I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. COUNSELOR WORRELL.

>> A MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES ACT ON HIS TONIGHT. >> SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE . WE MAY NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MR. PRESIDENT I MOVE TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE. D 2617 ? 22. IN A DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE?

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WORRELL. >> MOVED TO ED INTRODUCE. APPROVES THE FINAL TERMS OF THE BUILD OPERATE TRANSFER AGREEMENT WITH ENVOY CONSTRUCTION SERVICES LLC FOR THE CARMEL PROJECT REQUIRES EXPANSION A COURT ADDITION PROJECT. I BELIEVE WE HAVE

SOME GENTLEMEN HERE. >> LET YOU START THE WAY THERE. I'M GETTING IS A CAMERA HERE.

SO YOU CAN TURN THAT ON. THAT WILL BE THE TRUSTEE WAY TO DO THIS. LESS CHANCE FOR ERROR.

I'M JIM CARTER THE DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATION. IN PROVIDING OVERSIGHT ON THIS PROJECT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. GOOD NEWS TONIGHT IF YOU MEMBER YEAR AGO THIS MONTH THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE BONDS FOR 2 PROJECTS. ONE IS THIS MORNING, THE CARMEL POLICE STATION THE OTHER WAS THE DATA STATION, IT MOVE FROM WHERE THEY ARE DOWNTOWN. SO, THE GOOD NEWS IS THIS IS, IT

MIGHT BE A LITTLE HARD TO SEE. IF, WE CAN BLOW THAT UP. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD SEE WHERE MY PEN IS POINTING HERE. IT'S JUST THE NUMBERS, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.

ALL RIGHT. I CAN HARDLY KEEP APPEAR. SO AT THE TOP YOU SEE THE BOND, THE NET PROCEEDS FROM THE BOND. T BEFORE THAT THAT'S THE CONTRACT WE HAD WITH ENVOY TO GET US TO THIS POINT. NT.

AND THEN THEY HIGHLIGHTED NUMBER IS WHAT WERE SAYING IS A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.

THAT'S A NUMBER IN THE CONTRACT THAT YOU WERE SENT THIS WEEK. THAT NUMBER IF YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION ON THAT NUMBER WILL NOT CHANGE. THEN THE NUMBER BELOW THAT THE 2.97, THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE CITY'S MONEY. WE HAVE LEGAL FEES AND OTHER THINGS THAT WERE GOING TO PAY

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SO EVERYTHING, THE WHOLE BOTH PRODUCTS ALTOGETHER OR BELOW THE BOND AND NET PROCEEDS.

LEFT TO TAKE AWAY THAT I WANT YOU TO HEALTH. JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER ON THE RIGHT.

YOU CAN SEEEE WILL GO INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE. AS YOU HAVE A SCHEDULE, AS EARLY AS APRIL COULD BE MAY. WILL START RENOVATING THE CURRENT POLICE STATION. THE RENOVATION WHERE THIS CAN HAPPEN THERE. WE COULD SHOW YOU THAT IN A SECOND. IT STILL ON SCHEDULE FOR THE BANK TO BE VACATEDIN 1 JULY. SO IN JULY WE WILL MOVE RIGHT IN THERE. ENVOY WILL AND START WORK ON THAT SITE. AND COMPLETED AROUND OCTOBER 23. AN OCCUPATION, FIRST QUARTER OF 24. AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY UNCHANGED SINCE BEFORE START OF THE PLAN.

>> COUNSELOR HANNON DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE ON THIS?

>> YES I DO MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. FIRST I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THIS GROUP FOR PASSING THE BOT REGULATIONS. THAT WE DID ABOUT A YEAR AGO. I THINK IT WAS VERY TIMELY BECAUSE THE ABILITY FOR US TO USE THIS BUILD OPERATE TRANSFER WAS RELATIVELY NEW AND AVAILABLE TO US. THE OTHER TIMELINESS IS IT CAME ON THE HEELS OF THE HOTEL COST OVERRUNS AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO RELITIGATE IT BUT NO ONE ON THIS PANEL WAS HAPPY HOW THAT RAN. IT REALLY OPENED UP A NEW OPPORTUNITY FOR US THAT REALLY IS BEING FIRST EXECUTED HERE BY THE CITY OF CARMEL WITH THEIR PARTNER. HOPE TO SEE US DO THIS MORE IN THE FUTURE. I HOPE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ALSO CONSIDER THIS. THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT ABOUT THE BOT PROCESS THAT I THINK MAKE IT REALLY A GOOD FIT HERE IS THAT UPFRONT IT DEPOLITICIZE IS THE BIDDING PROCESS. ONE OF THE PIECES WAS THAT THERE WERE 5 APPOINTEES ON ONE OF THEM THAT WERE RESPONSIBLE AND EMPOWERED TO THAT. THEN SELECT VENDORS. THERE WAS A VERY EXPLICIT SECTION WITHIN THE RFP OR RPQ THAT SAID THAT ANY POTENTIAL BIDDERS COULD NOT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY CONTACT ANY APPOINTED OFFICIAL NOT JUST BE ON THERE BUT ANY APPOINTED OFFICIAL ANYWHERE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS EXCELLENT. THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS IS THAT WHAT THE PROCESS DOES IS IT THOROUGHLY AFFECTS HE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES. WE VETTED 4 COMPANIES CAME DOWN TO ONE BY USING EXPERT'S. EXPERT PANEL WITH A NUMBER OF TECHNICAL EXPERTS INCLUDING MR. MORIARTY AND OTHER CRC, MR. CRIDER AS WELL. IN A PARTLY IN ADDITION TO THOSE TECHNICAL EXPERTS HAVE THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY USE THIS BUILDING.

THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS CASE IN PARTICULAR, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE CITY COURT WERE THERE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY TO MAKE SURE IT WAS DONE TO THEIR SATISFACTION.

THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS ON THE BACKEND AS WELL. IN THE LAST PIECE WE WENT THROUGH THE VETTING PROCESS I KIND OF TALKED ABOUT MAYBE SELLING IT UP TO THE 2 ASSES. ONE IS HOW TO BE ENSURE GOOD STEWARDSHIP THAT THE VENDOR THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY THAT WE DO CHOOSE IS ACCOUNTABLE TO TAXPAYERS FOR AND ON TIME ON BUDGET COMMITMENT. WERE THEY THEMSELVES ARE ACCOUNTABLE AND HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME AND SO WHAT WERE ACTUALLY SORT OF CROSSING OVER HERE TONIGHT IS THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE FOR ENVOY TO PRODUCE WHAT'S CALLED A GMP. I GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. THERE COMMITTING TO COME JIM YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT. 25 MILLION SOMETHING, SOMETHING, SOMETHING. THAT'S THE NUMBER AND NO MORE. ANY COST OVERRUNS ALTHOUGH THERE IS SOME BUFFER BUILT INTO IT OF COURSE. ANY COST OVERRUNS COME OUT OF THEIR SKIN AND IMPORTANTLY THEY STILL HAVE TO

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I THINK THE STEWARDSHIP COMPONENT OF IT IS IMPORTANT FOR TAXPAYERS TO UNDERSTAND.

THE LAST PART, I GET TO REEMPHASIZE STAKEHOLDERS IS THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO USE THIS COULD TE POLICE, AS WELL AS THE COURTS AND IT WERE ALL ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN ALL THE CONVERSATIONS IN TERMS OF VETTING. THE DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND ALL 4 WERE EXCELLENT AND REALLY CAME DOWN TO 2 THAT WERE NECK AND NECK. MY ASSESSMENT REALLY WAS THE COMFORT OF THE STAKEHOLDERS FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONSTRUCTION COMPANY THAT HAD BUILT OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS. THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING AND ONE OF THE FIRE STATIONS IS WHAT IT CAME DOWN TO. AGAIN, THAT IS SORT OF MY SUMMARY. I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WERE DOING THIS. I'M HAPPY TO SEE THIS ADVANCING. THE POLICE IS LONG OVERDUE FOR A NEW FACILITY OR REHAB FACILITY. AGAIN I THANK YOU ALL FOR SUPPORTING THIS.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COUNSELOR WORRELL? >> SO THE DATE THAT WOULD BE PUT IN, PAGE 3 WHERE IT SAYS THE GUARANTEED DATE, IS GOING TO BE MARCH 2024? FOR

COMPLETION? >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. IF WE GUARANTEE THE

COMPLETION DATE. >> CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE SHALL MEAN A DETAILED SCHEDULE FOR CONSTRUCTION AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH IDENTIFIED NO LATER THAN AND FURTHER OUTLINED IN THE GMP

REPORT. THAT ME TO STOP YOU I WAS JUST CURIOUS. >> I'M NOT A LAWYER AND I'M NEVER STUMPED. I JUST HAVE TO TURN IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T.

>> WHEN DO WE MOVE IN? >> ALWAYS WONDERED IF YOUR SECURITY TEAM HAD ANYTHING TO

SAY BEHIND YOU THERE. >> THAT WAS JUST A QUESTION I WILL GET ASKED. WHEN WE MOVE

IN THE. >> ADAM:THIS WITH ? ?. COUNSELOR WORRELL THAT THE DATE WILL FINISH AND WILL MAIL THE FINAL REPORT. IT WILL BE THE SAME DAY THAT MATCHES HERE.

IT'S JUST ONE WE HAVEN'T COMPLETED. THAT'S A DATE THAT'S INCLUDED. IF YOU LOOK AT EITHER THE AGREEMENT THERE'S A LIQUIDATED DAMAGES PROVISION WHICH HOLDS THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ACCOMPLISHED AND THEY HAVE A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO MAKE

SURE THAT'S ACCOMPLISHED BY THAT DATE. >> OKAY. SHOULD THE PROJECT COME IN UNDER BUDGET THOSE DOLLARS RETURN TO THE CITY? IS THAT CORRECT?

>> SO THERE ARE COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BUCKETS. GENERALLY THE WAY THIS WORKS.

>> HE'S NOT AN ATTORNEY. > ARE COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BUCKETS. THERE'S ONE THAT'S A CITY ALLOWANCE BUCKET. THE CITY ESSENTIALLY INCLUDING THE DESIGN CHANGES, ANYTHING THAT IT WANTS. THAT WOULD GET RETURN TO THE CITY. ANY OTHER CONTINGENCY DOLLARS STATE WITH THE DEVELOPER. THAT'S PART OF THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS AS YOU TRY TO TAKE RELIEF AT THE OVERALL PROJECT INTO THE GMP YOU HAVE HERE. THEY TAKE ALL THE RISK AS IT RELATES TO THE GMP. IN THE EVENT THEY DON'T USE 100 PERCENT OF THE CONTINGENCY THAT GOES BACK TO

THEM RATHER THAN BACK TO THE CITY. >> SO DO YOU HAVE YOUR LIST OF

THINGS ARE GOING TO CHEAP OUT TO GET MORE MONEY? [LAUGHTER] >> THE SKIES BEEN FIRST-CLASS.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE SLIDES IF YOU LIKE. STAKEHOLDERS? AND, THIS MORNING JUST TO EMPHASIZE WHAT YOU CAN SCAN THAT. IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT DOCTOR HANNON TALKED ABOUT.

IT'S ALL THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENED UP UNTIL THIS POINT. THAT'S ON THE LEFT. YOU SEE WILL REWORK DIRECTLY WITH THE POLICE, IT AS WELL AS THE JUDGE OF THE FOLKS IN THE COURT.

THEN ON THE RIGHT IS COUNTLESS WALK-THROUGHS AND MEETINGS AND DETAILS OF DOOR HANDLES. IT'S PRETTY EXTENSIVE. SO THANK GOODNESS I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE ANNETTE FASHION FROM JS WHO SERVICES OUR OWNERS ROUTE ALONG WITH DEB COONS. JUST A FANTASTIC JOB. I DO HAVE ENVOY HERE. IF YOU WANT TO REVIEW ANYTHING. OTHER DETAILS ON THE PROJECT OR HAVE ANYTHING,

QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT COME UP. >> MR. PRESIDENT? >> COUNSELOR WORRELL.

>> I WILL MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT. AT THAT KUDOS SHOULD GO TO COUNSELOR FINKAM.

COUNSELOR FINKAM WAS ON THE. >>> BANDWAGON A YEAR BEFORE IT WAS EVER MENTIONED FROM THIS DAIS. ENVOY HELPED WITH SOME WITHOUT. THERE WERE SOME OTHER VENDORS BUT, I APPRECIATE WHAT

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SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US. >> TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT.

COUNSELOR FINKAM? >> THANK YOU FOR THAT UNNECESSARY BUT APPRECIATED.

THE 2.9 MILLION THAT'S OWNERS COST REIMBURSEMENT IS NOT INCLUDE ENGINEERING WORK WE'VE

DONE? >> SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN SPENT. FOR THE PRE-WORK TO GET US UP

TO THIS POINT. THERE STILL SOME LEFT FOR THE FUTURE. >> GREAT. GLAD WE COULD DO

THAT. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? MOTIONS?

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. 8 ? NOTHING. WERE MOVING ON. P, FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D ? 2618 ? 22 AND ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA AMENDING THE 2022 SALLY SALARY ORDINANCE SPONSOR IS COUNSELOR WORRELL.

>> MOVED TO INTRODUCE. >> COUNSELOR WORRELL. >> SYNOPSIS THIS ORBIT CEMENTS AT 2022 SALARY ORDINANCE BY ADDING A NEW POSITION WITHIN THE DEPARTED OF ADMINISTRATION AND THEN TO RECLASSIFY THE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT POSITIONS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF LAW. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK THERE ARE 2 CHANGES. ONE IS FOR A SKILLED LABOR TO WORK IN THIS BUILDING. IN WHICH AND THEN RECLASSIFICATION OF A LEGAL ASSISTANT. FOR SOME DOLLAR CHANGES AND MR. OBERLANDER IS HERE AND MR. CARTER IS BOTH HERE IF YOU HAVE

SPECIFICS ABOUT THOSE 2 POSITIONS. >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? COUNSELOR HANNON. >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS GOES TO JOHN OR MR. CARTER. FOR THOSE NEW POSITIONS AND THOSE NEW DOLLAR AMOUNTS, HOW DID WE BENCHMARK THOSE NUMBERS? WHERE DO WE COME UP WITH THOSE SIMPLY KNOW THAT AGAIN, IT'S GOOD USE OF

FUNDS. >> THANK YOU. COUNSELOR HANNON I CAN THE LEGAL POSITION.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY MORE MONEY THAT SPENT IN THE BUDGET. WE HAVE THESE POSITIONS IN AS 7, 8, AND 9. CURRENTLY PARALEGAL IS A GREAT 7. SINCE THAT REQUIRES A CERTIFICATION LIKE TO BE ABLE TO COMPENSATE PARALEGAL MORE THAN WE ARE AT THIS POINT. WE DON'T HAVE AMANDA BENNETT WAS MY ASSISTANT SHE'S A CERTIFIED PARALEGAL. IT'S ONLY CERTIFIED PARALEGAL MAY HAVE ON STAFF. IN THE FUTURE I'D LIKE TO HIRE MORE PARALEGALS BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PAY THEM A COMPATIBLE WAGE. WE ALSO HAVE GRADE 8 POSITION CURRENTLY.

THAT'S THE ADMINISTRATIVE COORDINATOR AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT ONE POSITION IS A GREAT 7. WE WOULD SWAP OUT THE COLLECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR, ADMINISTERED OF COORDINATOR, MOVE PAIR LEGAL INTEGRATE NONE WHICH IS THE COLLECTION ADMINISTRATORS OUT.

THEN REMOVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE COORDINATOR POSITION TO MAKE THAT LEGAL ASSISTANT. THAT DIDN'T SOUND EASIER BUT I THINK IT WILL MAKE MORE SENSE ONCE IT'S IN THERE. THANK YOU.

>> YOU SAID IT WAS NO MORE MONEY QUICK. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SUSPEND THE RULES. >> MOVED TO SUSPEND THE RULES.

>> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. I WILL ENTERTAIN ANOTHER

MOTION. >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. COUNSELOR FINKAM WE ALWAYS HAVE EACH OTHER'S BACK.

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>> MOVED TO KNOWLEDGE. >> SO BE IT. WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT DEBBIE? THE

ACKNOWLEDGMENT? WE PUT IT UP THERE JUST FOR FUN. >> 17, ANNOUNCEMENTS. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS COUNCIL? 18, MOTION TO ADJOURN ANYBODY?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.