[a. Ordinance Z-676-22]
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>> >>: WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA ORDI ORDINANCE Z-676-22 E CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA ESTABLISHING THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOP A DISTRICT. SPONSOR IS COUNSELOR RIDER.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS EVENING, WE DISCUSSED SOME OF THE ISSUES AROUND THIS PROPOSAL AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS START OUT BY TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY. AND MOVE ON TO PRESERVATION AND HOW THIS FITS INTO THE COMP P PLAN.
ALEXIA SEND OUT HER REPORT AND WE WILL ADDRESS ANY OTHER ISSUES. LET'S START WITH THE TRAFFIC
STUDY. >> >>: IF YOU CAN STAND AT THE PODIUM IS SO WE CAN PUT AN EXHIBIT.
AGAIN JOHN WITH NELSON ON BEHALF OF PITTMAN PARTNERS AND ONYX IN EAST. STEVE WITH ANF ENGINEERING IS GOING TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND REVIEW THE METHODOLOGY ANALYSIS AND A RESULT OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY SUBMITTED TO STAFF BACK IN DECEMBER. WE RECALL IT IS YOUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING YOU HAD ASKED AS A COUNSEL TO HAVE THE CITY ENGINEER HERE HE IS PRESENT TO THE EXTENT THAT STEVE COULD ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, HE WILL BE AVAILABLE.
WE WOULD JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT JEREMY IS HERE AS WELL TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU.
>> >>: STEVE WITH ANF ENGINEERING A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF INDIANA.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER HOW WE DO THE TRAFFIC STUDIES.
MOST OF YOU HAVE ALL HEARD ME SPEAK BEFORE.
MAYBE IF YOU HAVE IT ALL GO THROUGH THAT IT ONLY TAKE ME A SHORT TIME AND FROM THAT I THANK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MADE. WHEN WE DO A TRAFFIC STUDY YOU TRIED TO FIGURE AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT IS BUILT, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE ROAD SYSTEM.
YOU LOOK AS CERTAIN INTERSECTION AND ROADWAYS.
THE NEAREST INTERSECTION SPRING MILL IN ILLINOIS WHICH WOULD BE THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE THAT'S WITH ACCESS WOULD BE, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT IS BUILT, WHAT ARE THE VOLUMES, TRAFFIC VOLUMES GOING TO DO TO THE INTERSECTION THE WAY WE DO THAT WE DO A TRAFFIC COUNT AT THE ROUNDABOUT SO WE GET ACTUAL DATA SO WE KNOW WHO IS ENTERING AND EXITING THE SECOND EXIT IN THE FIRST ONE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT IS HER BASELINE.
AND THEN WE GO BACK AND HAVE A DOCUMENT THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS. ANYBODY THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THIS FIELD THEY BELONG TO THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS. A NATIONAL FIRM IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AND THEY PUBLISH A DOCUMENT WITH OVER THOUSANDS DIFFERENTLY AND USES. ONE BEING SINGLE-FAMILY AND ONE MULTI-FAMILY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE USE THE DOCUMENT TO DETERMINE HOW MANY NEW CARS WILL COME IN AND OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS. IT IS CALLED THE TRIP GENERATION MANUAL. WE ACTUALLY CALCULATE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS, THE TYPE OF UNITS AND HOW MANY CARS WILL GO IN AND OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE GET CONFUSED AND SAY WE HAVE 100 HOMES, THEREFORE EVERY HOME HAS TWO OR THREE CARS AND THAT MEANS YOU WILL HAVE 300 CARS COMING OUT OF DEVELOPMENT AT ANY ONE TIME.
THAT IS NOT REALITY AND NOT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE REAL WORLD NOT EVERYBODY GETS DONE WITH A CUP OF COFFEE IN THE GARAGE DOOR GOES UP THE SAME TIME HE GETS IN THE CAR AT THE SAME TIME.
WE TEND TO LOOK AT THE PEAK HOUR IN THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON.
THE PEAK HOUR COULD BE 5 - 6 IN THE AFTERNOON WE COUNT THE TRAFFIC ON A 15 MINUTE. THE PEAK HOUR COULD BE 715 TO 815 OR 745 TO 845. THAT IS IMPORTANT, NOT EVERYBODY LEAVES AT THE SAME TIME. 70 LEAVES AT 7:40 A.M. MAY BE OUTSIDE OF THE PEAK HOUR AND THOSE CARS DO NOT AFFECT THE PEAK HOUR OR WORSE CASE SCENARIO.
ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO IN THE
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EXISTING TRAFFIC, WE KNOW THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO FOR THE PROJECTED TRAFFIC BASED ON A CALCULATION.WE CAN GO BACK AND DO WHAT WE REFERRED TO AS A CAPACITY ANALYSIS. WHAT THAT ANALYSIS TELLS US.
ESSENTIALLY HOW THE INTER INTERSECTION, ROUNDABOUT, FOUR-LANE ROAD INTERSTATE IS WORKING.
HOW THE FLOW IS WORKING. IN OUR FIELD WE SAY BASICALLY WE HAVE LEVELS OF SERVICE, THEY ARE A THROUGH F.
A IS FREE FLOW AND AS IS GRIDLOCK, IT IS CONGESTED.
I HAVE SET THIS FOR 100 YEARS NOW.
IT IS NOT LIKE A KID BRINGING HOME A REPORT CARD, D IS ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE IN MOST INSTANCES BECAUSE HE IS SATURATION FLOW. LET'S USE AN EXAMPLE IF YOU PUL% UP TO A SIGNAL IN YOUR AT THE RED LIGHT AND IT TURNS GREEN.
IF YOU'RE AT THE BACK OF THE QUEUE AND GET THROUGH, THAT IS SATURATION. YOU'RE STILL GETTING THROUGH BUT YOU CAN FLOW THROUGH. WHAT HAPPENED THAT THE ROUNDABOUT. TODAY IT IS LEVEL OF SERVICE A.
THAT MEANS YOU'RE ENTERING THE ROUNDABOUT AND YOU NOT GETTING ANY CONGESTION YOU'RE ENTERING AND EXITING OUR FREE WILL.
WHEN WE ADDED THE CARS ONTO THAT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT, IT IS STILL LEVEL OF SERVICE AND. YOU SAY HOW CAN THAT BE.
AND THE REASON BEHIND THAT BECAUSE THE THRESHOLD BETWEEN AMB AND BDC AND CEDED THE INCREASE.
A IS 0 - 10 SECONDS TO DELAY AND ON UP.
IT IS NOT THE SAME NUMBER THAT WOULD PUSH IT INTO D, A, B, C, D, F IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH IN OUR FIELD OF HOW YOU FEEL WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING. WHEN YOU GET ANGRY, HOW MANY SECONDS OF A DELAY DO YOU GET ANGRY, THAT'S WHAT IT'S TELLING US. THE THOUGHT THAT WE EXPAND THAT.
D MIGHT BE 30 SECONDS - 55 SECONDS WHERE A IS 0 - 10.
JUST TO RECAP WE DID ALL THE WORK AND CAME UP WITH THE FACT THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT GOES IN THEY WILL ADD AN EXTRA LEG TO THE ROUNDABOUT IT WILL NOT HAVE ANY EFFECT TO THE ROUNDABOUT IT WILL WORK THE SAME AS IT IS TODAY.
>> >>: QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE OR COUNSEL?%
>> >>: NOT SO MUCH I SUPPOSE IT DEPENDS ON THE GREEN AND WHAT MAKES YOU ANGRY. FOR SOME OF US IS PROBABLY A LOT
DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS. >> >>: IS DIFFERENT IF YOU LIVE
IN CHICAGO. >> >>: IT'S MORE I WAS ASKING JEREMY. HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT
THIS? >> YES JEREMY CASHMAN SITTING ENGINEER. WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PROPOSING THE DEVELOPMENT, THIS WAS A CONCEPT FLOATED EARLY ON.
I HAD NOT LOOKED AT IT FROM THE SIDE OF THE ROADWAY BUT THE PAST PARCEL ON THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE INTERSECTION DEVELOPS AS WELL AND WILL THERE BE AVAILABILITY TO TIE INTO THE ROUNDABOUT HERE? AS WE SPOKE THROUGH EVERYTHING WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT TYING THE MAIN ENTRANCE IN THE MAIN TAKEAWAYS THE ROUNDABOUT REMAINS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT KHMER THAT'S THE SAFEST WE CAN BUILD.
THIS IS CONCEPTUAL SO WE HAVE DETAILS TO WORK OUT, BUT ALSO THE MAIN FOCUS IS MAKING TO THE ENTRYWAY FEELS LIKE AN ENTRYWAY TO A NEIGHBORHOOD OR IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A MAIN ROADWAY.
THAT WAS THE ONLY OTHER CONCERN THAT I HAD AND I THINK THEY HAVE
ADDRESSED ALL THE COMMENTS. >> COUNCILMAN NELSON?
>> THIS IS A WHAT IF. WHAT IF AFTER FLORIDA IS BUILT IN RIGHT NOW THE CONCLUSION THAT TRAFFIC AROUND THE CIRCLE IS GOING TO BE A PRE-WHAT IF IT'S NOT A AND WHAT CAN BE DONE THEN?
>> I THINK A LAW WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE CONSIDER IT TO BE A PROBLEM IF WE GO FROM A - C, THAT IS STILL NOT AN ISSUE.
IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WHERE WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING.
WE COULD ALWAYS POSSIBLY DO A MORE DETAILED ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE PEAK HOUR COUNSEL ARE AND MAYBE POSSIBLY MEET UP THEM ROUNDABOUT AND 136 AND SMOKING KEYSTONE FREE BUT FOR THE MOST PART EVEN THE NEWER ROUNDABOUTS THAT WERE CONSTRUCTING TODAY FOR PUSHING THE ENVELOPE AND NOT OVER DESIGNING.
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WE WOULD RATHER HAVE A SLIGHT AMOUNT OF DELAY DURING THE PEAK HOUR SO WE CAN MAINTAIN A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT FOR THE REST OF THE TIME SINCE WE KNOW THAT IS THE SAFEST OPTION WE CAN HAVE.WE JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, AT 126 AND KEYSTONE.
WEATHER GENERATES A LOT OF TRAFFIC DURING SCHOOL IN THE MORNING. WHAT IS THAT CATEGORY.
IT GOT A D OR KNE E OR S. THAT'S WHERE WERE PUSHING INTO D OR E. THE SCHOOL RUSH IS NOT THE PEAK HOUR FOR THE MORNING RUSH BECAUSE WE GET A VERY INTENSE 15 MINUTE WINDOW. 15 - 20 MINUTE WINDOW.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT WERE HERE TO TALK ABOUT, I DID NOT WANT TO CONFUSE ANYBODY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU, WE WILL MOVE ON AND TALK ABOUT TREE PRESE PRESERVATION.
HE WANTS TO ADDRESS DETAILS OF HOW THE TREES ARE GOING TO BE PRESERVED AND WE ALSO DISCUSSED THERE WAS A LAWSUIT INVOLVING LOGGING ON THE PROPERTY IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING IT WENT TO THE APPELLATE COURT AND COMING BACK. IS IT COURT TO?
>> THAT WILL BE IN AUGUST. IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT WHAT IS BEEN DONE SO FAR AND HOW TREES WILL BE PRESERVED AND HOW THEY WILL BE MARKED. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>> I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN COMMUNICATION.
THERE WAS ONE COMMUNICATION DELIVERED TO THE COUNCIL SUGGESTING REMOVING 40 ACRES OF WOODS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ONLY 17 ACRES. OF THE 17 ACRES COMMITTED 20% TO TREE PRESERVATION. THOSE ARE IDENTIFIED AND OUTLINED IN WHITE ON HER PLAN AND THERE IS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE AREA WITH A SOLID WHITE OUTLINE AND THAT IS 100% TREE PRESERVATION. THE OTHER IS IDENTIFIED HERE AS LIMITED TREE PRESERVATION AND THAT IS IN THE SPACE OF THE COMMON AREA THAT EXISTS BETWEEN THE DWELLINGS AS YOU SEE IT A WHITE LINE. IT IS BECAUSE WE WILL NOT KNOW UNTIL FINAL ENGINEERING IF WE CAN PRESERVE THE TREES BECAUSE THEY EXIST IN A COVE BETWEEN HOMES THAT W WILL BE DEVELOPED N THE SITE IF WE COULD ADJUST GRADES AND ACCOMMODATE ACCORDINGLY THOSE TREES WILL BE SAVED BUT THAT MAKES ONLY ONE HALF OF 1% OF THE TREE PRESERVATION WE ARE DOING.
20% IS OVERALL OF THE SITE THAT IS TREE PRESERVATION THREE-POINT 0 5% IS THE PERCENT ILLUSTRATED AND IDENTIFIED BY THIS.
PREDOMINANTLY NORTH OF THE POND TO WORK AS A TRANSITION TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE NORTH. I MENTION THE ORIGINAL ESTATE WAS OVER 40 ACRES N-SIZE AND 15 ACRES OF THAT, 15 - 16 WAS SOLD TO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY NORTH IN THEIR BUILDING A LARGE ESTATE HOME PREDOMINANTLY IN AREA AND THE FLOOD ZONE IT'S UNLIKELY THAT THOSE TREES WILL BE IN QUESTION.
BUT BACK TO OUR SITE THE 17 ACRES YOU CAN SEE THE PRETRIAL SURVEYS AND, SOMEONE ASKED HOW IS THAT MAINTAINED.
BEFORE WE BEGAN CONSTRUCTION, WHEN WOULD BE STORMWATER MITIGATION THE BLACK FENCE BEFORE THEY BUILD A HOUSE.
IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR SITE CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL GO UP IN THE TREE PRESERVATION WILL PUT IN TYPICALLY THINK OF SNOW FENCING THE ORANGE FENCING THAT IS TALLER, 3 - 4 FEET IN HEIGHT THEY WILL WRAP IT WITH THAT AND DID NOTED ON THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN SO THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES WILL NOT GET INTO THAT SPACE.
BEFORE THE BIGGER EQUIPMENT GETS ON-SITE THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN THEY WILL PUT AN EROSION CONTROL FENCING AND THEY WILL PUT DOWN THE ORANGE FENCING THAT SURROUNDS THE AREA IDENTIFIED IN WHITE SO WE DON'T GET VEHICLES AND THEY DON'T GET INTO THE SPACES. ANOTHER THING PROCURED EARLIER TO THE SITE THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN A TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOOD. IN A TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOOD YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL LOTS AND OFTEN TIMES THOSE BACKUP TO TREE PRESERVATION AREAS AND YOU FIND PEOPLE CREEP FROM THEIR BACKYARD AND EVERY YEAR THEY MET WITH STRIPE AND 15 YEARS LATER THEY
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HAVE A FIRE PIT IN THE JUNGLE GYM AND A TRAMPOLINE IN THAT SPACE IN THE TREE PRESERVATION. IN THIS SITUATION WE ARE NOT BURDEN WITHOUT POTENTIAL BECAUSE IT IS ALL COMMON AREA.YOU DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY YOUR INDIVIDUAL LOT.
THERE'S NOT INDIVIDUAL LOTS LIKE IN THE SPACE WHERE THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES WHERE YOU'RE BACKING UP TO THE SPACE.
WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT BUT I'LL CALL THE CREEP FROM INDIVIDUAL LOTS THAT GETS INTO THE AREA.
LIKEWISE AFTER CONSTRUCTION THE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT IT HAS LEFT IN THE STREET OR IN PLACE OF REBUILDING HOUSES AND RESIDENTS MOVING. ALL OF THE AREAS IDENTIFIED FOR TREE PRESERVATION WOULD BE ASSIGNED SPECIFIC SIGNAGE ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE AND MOST OF THE FOLKS ON THE COUNCIL ARE FAMILIAR WITH JOSH KIRSCH HE IS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND A PASSION ABOUTÚ. HE MADE SUGGESTIONS TO USE THOSE SCIENCE TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC. MORE THAN JUST SAYING THIS IS TREE PRESERVATION ACTUALLY ADDING LANGUAGE THAT GIVES IDENTIFICATION BEYOND HERE'S WHAT I AM.
IT'S AN EXPLANATION OF WHY I AM AND IT IS NOT TO CUT MATERIALS WITHIN THE SPACE THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME AND WE ARE PROVIDING TRAILS ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE SPACE BUT IT'S ANOTHER METHOD BY WHICH WE ELIMINATE ANY POTENTIAL OF SOMEONE COMING INTO THE SPACE AND THINKING THEY SHOULD REMOVE TREES.
>> DO YOU DO A TREE INVENTORY IN THESE AREAS.
SOME OF THE TREES MAY NOT STAND UP WELL OVER TIME.
I EXPERIENCE THAT MY OWN BACKYARD UNFORTUNATELY BUT ALONG THE PATH, DO YOU TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY TREES THAT MIGHT BE A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE?
>> THERE IS AN AUTHORIZATION UNDER THE ORDINANCE THAT SPECIFIES HERE IS THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO AND CANNOT DO.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE AS CONSTRUCTION BEGINS, WE WILL HAVE AN ARBORIST INTO THAT LOCATION AND THEY WILL IDENTIFY TREES THAT ARE DEAD OR DYING WERE PRESENT A HAZARD.
THOSE ARE TREES THAT WOULD BE REMOVED.
BECAUSE HER INTRODUCING THE PUBLIC INTO THE EDGE OF THE SPACE WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIABLE FOR CONDITIONS THAT THE ARBORIST WOULD SUGGEST OR NOT PROTECTING THE PUBLIC HEALTH.
>> QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? COUNSELOR AUSTIN.
>> YOU TALKED ABOUT THE TREE PRESERVATION.
HOW MANY TREES WILL YOU BE PLANTING? NEW TREES? OR WHAT PERCENTAGE OF GREEN SPACE DO YOU HAVE FOR THIS PROJECT.
>> 25% GREEN SPACE AND 25% TREE PRESERVATION AREA.
WHAT YOU DO NOT SEE ON HERE IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN THREE TREES AND TEN SHRUBS TO A GREATER NUMBER OF SHRUBS PER LOT.
THE 129 HOMES YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 400 PLUS TREES IN ROUGHLY A THOUSAND SHRUBS. THOSE ARE PLANTINGS ON LOTS.
THERE WILL ALSO BE PLANTINGS IN THE INTERIOR COMMON AREAS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE HARDSCAPE'S AND THE SELECTIVE PLANTINGS.
THAT IS THE NUMBER IT'S IN THE HUNDREDS OF SHRUBS AND 300 - 400 TREES ADDITIONAL OF WHAT IS THERE TODAY.
>> I KNOW IT IS HARD TO ANSWER THIS.
BUT IF THIS WAS NOT RESIDENTIAL AND IN OFFICE SPACE OR COMMERCIAL. YOU WOULD PROBABLY SEE A LOT LESS TREES ON THIS AREA. GIVE ME AN IDEA JUST FOR SOMEONE WHO IS WORRIED ABOUT TREES. IF SOMEONE WERE TO GO IN THERE LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING, HOW MUCH LESS TREES WOULD BE
PROBABLY SEE. >> I CANNOT GIVE YOU NUMBER BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL YOU THE PERIMETER LENGTH OF THE PART CANNOT BUT TYPICALLY WHAT YOU SEE ON THE PRIMITIVE A PARKING LOT AND THEN A SIMILAR TYPE OF BAND BUFFER TRANSITIONAL ON THE SITE PERIMETER. IT IS HARD TO GAUGE.
>> HE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY OF THAT? IT DEPENDS ON THE BUILDING BUT FOR THE BIG PARKING LOT YOU WOULD NOT HAVE ALL THOSE TREES NEAR THE HOUSE AS YOU WOULD BE
PLANTING? >> THAT POTENTIALLY IS YES.
PERIOD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, I THINK THAT IS OFFERED TREE PRESERVATION. THANK YOU AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO ALEXIA AND HOW THIS FITS IN AND HOW THIS FITS INTO THE COPY HAS
A PLAN. >> ALEXIA LOPEZ DEPARTMENT OF
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HUMAN SERVICES. I SENT AN E-MAIL BEFORE THE MEETING. ONE HAD SEVERAL ATTACHMENTS TO THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.ONE OF THOSE WITH ALL THE GOALS AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT THE ONES THAT APPLIED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT I THOUGHT THEY MEANT. IN ADDITION TO THAT.
WE LOOK AT THE LAND USE AS WELL AND WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE SAYS FOR THE LAND USES AROUND IT. THIS AREA IS EXCLUDED.
THEN WE WOULD GO BACK TO WHAT WAS IN PLACE BEFORE THAT.
THAT WAS CLASSIFIED AS LOW INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
WHICH IS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOUSING DENSITY BETWEEN 1 - 3 PER ACRE. NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST OF THE PROJECT IS CLASSIFIED AS A LOW INTENSITY.
EAST IS THE EMPLOYMENT WHERE IT GETS THE CORRIDOR.
THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION WE WOULD CLASSIFY UNDER THE URBAN RESIDENTIAL AND ATTACH RESIDENTIAL.
ACCORDING TO THE CONFERENCE AND PLAN THESE ARE NOT CONSIDERED A BEST FIT OR CONDITIONAL FIT NEXT TO LOW INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
HOWEVER, THERE IS A LARGE NATURAL BUFFER TO THE WEST PROVIDED BY WILLIAMS CREEK IN THE FLOODPLAIN THERE IN THE LARGE TREE PRESERVATION BUFFER THAT THEY HAVE TO THE NORTH.
THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL.
OBVIOUSLY THE SOUTH'S EYE FOR 65 AND TO THE EAST IS UNEMPLOYMENT NODE. WE BELIEVE THESE PROVIDE A SENSITIVE TRANSITION BETWEEN THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL, IT'S RESIDENTIAL NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL EVEN THOUGH IF IT IS MORE INTENSE WERE DIFFERENT THAN THE SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
AND TO THE EAST URBAN RESIDENTIAL AND ATTACHED WOULD BE A CONDITIONAL FIT NEXT TO THE EMPLOYMENT NODE.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PLAN OR GO INTO THE SPECIFIC GOALS THAT WERE PULLED FROM THAT IF YOU
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. >> 80 QUESTIONS SO FAR?
COUNSELOR GREEN? >> LET'S SAY A DEVELOPER CAME IN AND WITHOUT CHANGING THE CURRENT CLASSIFICATION FOR THAT LAND DECIDED TO PUT IN A DEVELOPMENT. WHAT PROTECTIONS WOULD THERE BE TO TREE PRESERVATION? IF THE CLASSIFICATION -- WHAT I'M GETTING AT WITH THE PUD THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS FOR TREE PRESERVATION.
IF IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION THROUGH NORMAL ZONING WHAT CAN THE PROTECTION BE?
>> IF THEY WERE TO PROPOSE A DEVELOPMENT ON THE CURRENT ZONING THEY WOULD HAVE TO PRESERVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TREES FOR ANY NEW SUBDIVISION. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK UP WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE, THEY ARE BASED ON WHETHER A MATURE TREE WERE MORE OF A SCRUB TREE IT IS A PERCENTAGE.
I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK UP THE EXACT PERCENTAGES OF WHAT IT
WOULD BE. >> IF YOU CAN LOOK IT UP AND
GIVE IT TO US. >> DO YOU WANT ME TOO DO THAT TONIGHT? OR WHEN WERE HERE?
>> WHENEVER YOU CAN DO IT YOU PROBABLY CANNOT DO IT WILL BE IN
THE MEETING. >> I THANK YOU CAN WAIT UNTIL LATER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SO FAR?
DO YOU HAVE MORE TO PRESENT? >> I CAN PASS THESE OUT A WELL.
WE USE THIS TO FACILITATE THE DISCUSSION AT THE PLAN COMMISSION COMMITTEE LEVEL ABOUT THE TRANSITION AND ESTABLISH POINT OF REFERENCE OR CONTACTS FOR THE DISTANCES THAT EXIST BETWEEN THE HOMES ON THE SITE AND THE MOST ADJACENT HOMES.
THIS IS THE CEDAR POINT SUBDIVISION.
YOU SEE THE HOMES WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION WHERE THERE WILL BE HOMES O THE SITE ARE THREE PLUS FOOTBALL FIELDS REMOVED ACROSS THE PARCEL. THE 16 ACRES THAT HAS BEEN TO THE NORTH. YOU CAN SEE ON A PLAN RIGHT HERE. THAT IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE HOME THAT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED THAT IS OWNED BY THE 16 ACRES IN THE WILLIAMS CREEK FLOOD ZONE. THIS HELPED TO THE POINT THE STAFF MADE ABOUT THE TRANSITION TO THE BUFFER WHICH EXIST IT IS THREE FOOTBALL FIELDS WORTH OF WOODED SPACE BEFORE YOU GET TO
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THE HOMES IN CEDAR POINT SUBDIVISION INTO THE NORTH ABOUT TWO FOOTBALL FIELDS THERE IS PROPOSED.THIS IS A LOT. THIS IS PROPOSED FROM A CONSTRUCTION WE HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE HONOR AS WELL AS LETTERS OF SUPPORT OF THE CURRENT OWNER THAT SITS HERE AND THE OWNER TO THE WEST. DAVE SUBMITTED LETTERS OF SUPPORT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS WAS PRIMARILY PROVIDED TO ILLUSTRATE THE CONTEXT.
>> HAVE YOU HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH CEDAR POINT AND RESIDENTS WITHIN CEDAR POINT I KNOW A NUMBER OF US THAT RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM ONE RESIDENT. ANY OTHER COMMUNICATIONS WITH
CEDAR POINT? >> WE DID WE SENT OUT TO COMMUNICATIONS TO THE OWNERS WITH THE DOTS THAT ARE MOST PROXIMATE TO OUR SITE, THEY RECEIVED NOTICE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING BACK IN NOVEMBER.
PLUS OR MINUS. I KNOW YOU ATTENDED THAT MEE MEETING. THERE WERE NOT ANY ATTENDEES FROM CEDAR POINT FROM THAT COMMUNICATION AND THEY RECEIVED ANOTHER COMMUNICATION IN THE BLINK COMMISSION AT WHICH TIME I ALSO THINK WE DID NOT RECEIVE THE PLANE COMMISSION DID NOT RECEIVE A COMMUNICATION FROM THOSE RESIDENTS.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> NOW I WILL OPEN UP TO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL AND ANY OTHER ISSUES AND TOPICS YOU WANT TO DISCUSS ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.
OR I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I MOVE THAT WE SEND THIS BACK TO COUNSEL WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
>> OKAY. >> LET'S GET A SECOND AND WE CAN AVOID DISCUSSION. SECOND?
>> FOR THE DISCUSSION? >> MIKE, WE RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM SOMEONE THAT A NUMBER OF LETTERS HAD BEEN SENT AGAINST THIS BUT WERE THERE ANY OTHER LETTER SENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGAINST THIS? SOMEONE WAS DISPUTING IN THE E-MAIL TO MANY OF US THAT THERE WERE LETTERS SENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL.
LET ME DOUBLE CHECK. I KNOW I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING VERIFYING IT. IT WAS JUST AN E-MAIL.
>> I THINK THERE WERE JUST A FEW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BUT I KNOW THAT WE RECEIVED THE LETTER OPPOSED TO IT. THEY WERE IN LASERFICHE THOUGH?
>> YES I'M TRYING TO LOOK THAT UP REALLY QUICK.
ARE YOU WANTING TO READ THIS? >> I CAN READ THEM IN BETWEEN.
TONIGHT IN THE COUNCIL MEETING. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND THE SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY PLEASE SAYAYE.
>> AYE. >> A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION.
WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE ON OUR AGENDA.
WE ARE
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