Jul 19, 2023 Carmel Redevelopment Commission

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS THE REGULAR MONTHLY MEETING OF THE REGULAR CARAMEL - - WE ARE HERE IN

[1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[2. TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE REPORT]

>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. AS YOU ARE AWARE, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, THE CRC APPROVED TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE PROPOSAL FOR SOME SOUND SYSTEM UPGRADES FOR THE PALLADIUM. HE RECEIVED ALL OF THE PQUALITATIVE AND PRICE PROPOSAL ON SCHEDULE FROM THREE OFFERS.

THE TRC INTERVIEW THE THREE TEAMS AND MET LATE LAST WEEK AND SCORED THEM ALL. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO READ THE REPORT.I WILL FOLLOW-UP WITH OPENING THE BID AFTER WE READ THE REPORT FROM THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.

FOLLOWING THE OPENING OF THE BID OUTSIDE OF THIS MEANING, WE WILL DO THE MATH TO DETERMINE WHO ARE WILLING OFFER IS.

I WILL INVITE JEFF APPEARS TO DO HIS REPORT ON BEHALF OF THE

COMMITTEE. >> THANK YOU, GOOD EVENING.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME AGAIN. I SPEAK FOR THE CENTER, WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT ALL THESE PROJECTS.

I AM JEFF STAGG, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER FOR THE CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS. THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE DIDN'T MEET ON JULY 13 AT 11:00 A.M. IN THE CAUCUS ROOM.THIS WAS TO SCORE THE DESIGN BILL QUALITATIVE PROPOSALS IN RESPONSE TO THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FROM THE PROJECT ISSUED ON MAY 26. WE REPRESENTED BY ALL APPOINTED MEMBERS. THE REDESIGN BUILD TEAMS - - PREPARED PRICE PROPOSALS FOR TWO SEPARATE SPEAKER MANUFACTURERS. THOSE TWO SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN SCORED SEPARATELY. - - THE FORCE CHECK MID-AMERICA SOUND COMBINED EFFORT PROPOSED AND ACOUSTIC SOUND SYSTEM.

THE TRC SCORE THE MID-AMERICA BASE OF THE PROPOSAL OF ALTERNATE ONE TOURING MODEL. THIS WAS DONE TO GIVE EQUIVALENT CONSIDERATION TO ALL PROPOSALS AS THE OTHER TWO, OTHER THREE PROPOSALS INCLUDED TOURING MODELS AS A PART OF THE SPACE BID. WE DID REMOVE THE - - TOURING MODELS WHICH IS CENTRAL TO THE TOURING OPERATION.

THE SCORING IS AS FOLLOWS. THE SOUND SYSTEM RECEIVED A 64.

THE - - TECHNOLOGY SYSTEM PROPOSED BY CSD GROUP RECEIVED A 76 AND THE - - MID-AMERICA SOUND RECEIVED A 94.

PRICE PROPOSALS WILL BE A PUBLICLY FOLLOWING THIS REPORT AFTER THIS BRIEF COMMERCIAL BREAK TO ADD SOME TENSION THERE. THE BEST I PROPOSAL WILL BE DETERMINED BASED ON AN ADJUSTED VALUE CALCULATED BY DIVIDING THE BASE BID BY THE QUALITATIVE SCORE.

FOLLOWING THIS MEETING, WE WILL TALK LIKE THE ADJUSTED VALUES AND REVIEW ANY CONDITIONS INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSALS TO CONFRONT THE APPARENT JUST VALUE PROPOSAL IS VALUED.

I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY.

>> QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE.

[3. BID OPENING ]

>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. WE WILL START WITH THE BID FROM GOD TECHNOLOGIES. ALRIGHT, THE DOD.

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THEY DID INCLUDE FOUR VOLUNTARY ADD-ONS.

THESE WILL VARY BY PROPOSAL BECAUSE THEY WERE VOLUNTARY, SO I WANT READERS TODAY. WE WILL NEGOTIATE THOSE WITH THE LEARNING OFFERED THE BASE BID IS $748,000.

THE SECOND ONE THAT I'M OPENING IS FROM CSD GROUP AND THIS IS THEIR MEYER SOUND. THE GMP INCLUDING THE OWNER, ALLOWANCE AND CONTINGENCY ALLOWANCES AND OR $7884.

THEY DID INCLUDE NO ALTERNATES. THE THIRD PROPOSAL IS FROM CSD, THIS IS THE DNB SYSTEM. THE TOTAL BID IS INCLUDING OWNER ALLOWANCE AND CONTINGENCY ALLOWANCE, AND $94,009.

THE LAST PROPOSAL FROM FORCED TECH IS INCLUDING BOTH ALLOWANCES, A TOTAL GMP BID OF $742,144.28.

AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WE WOULD ALSO INCLUDE ALTERNATE NUMBER ONE. THAT'S REFERRING TO ANOTHER PAGE, HOLD ON A MOMENT. THESE WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PRICE PROPOSAL, THEY ARE SEPARATE.

THE TOURING OPTION IS AN ADDITIONAL $115,842.82.

WE WILL TO THE TOTAL GMP FOR THE BASE BID PLUS THE ALTERNATE ONE TO DO OUR CALCULATION. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I ASSUME YOU'LL REPORT BACK ON

THE STATUS OF THESE? >> WE WILL BUT WE WILL BE DOING THE MATH AND VALIDATING ANY CONDITIONS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PRICEPROPOSALS FROM EARLIER .

>> I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, FROM TIME TO TIME AT THE PALLADIUM, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A CONTRACT UPPER FORMAL, THE LIMITATION ON THE AMOUNT OF DECIBEL AND SOUN , WE DO HAVE SOME GROUPS THAT TEND TO EXCEED THAT WHERE FAIRLY LARGE MARGIN.

WE HAVE SOME NICE DO WE HAVE A MECHANISM - - AMOUNT?

>> IN THE SYSTEM WE WILL HAVE A MUCH MORE ACTIVE SYSTEM TO MEASURE DB AS THEY MOVE ALONG. THAT WILL GIVE US A BETTER PERSPECTIVE.WITH ANY OF THE SYSTEMS INHERENT IN THE DESIGNS PURPOSE BUILT FOR THE ROOM ITSELF, IT WILL ALLOW US TO CONTROL IT BETTER. IN INSTANCES NOW, DUE TO THE NATURAL DESIGN THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE, YOU DO LOSE SOME CONTROL DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE AT.WE DO HAVE A LOT BETTER CONTROL TO MANAGE THAT. WE CONTINUE TO DO OUR BEST TO

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OTHERS. >> FROM TIME TO TIME, IT WAS TURNED UP SO LOUD THAT IT WAS DISTORTING THE MUSIC AND MAKING IT DIFFICUT FOR AUTOMATION IF WE CAN MINIMIZE THAT, LET'S

MINIMIZE IT. >> THAT IS OUR GOAL.

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> THANKS JEFF. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IN THAT CASE, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 15 MEETING. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THE DRAFT OF THE MINUTES PROVIDED IN YOUR

PACKETS, COMMISSIONERS? >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND.

>> CHAIR: IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND PSECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY I. IN YOUR POST?

[5a. Cash Flow Report ]

>> THE END OF MONTH BALANCE FOR JUNE IS 6 MILLION HUNDRED $54,994 INCLUDING RESTRICTED FUNDS, IT WAS 12 MILLION SIX AND 54,000 - - ENOUGH TO MAKE A BOND PAYMENTS IN THE REQUIRED AMOUNTS THAT GO INTO OUR SERVICES AS WELL.

[5b. Approval of Claims]

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE CASH FLOW REPORT? SEEING NONE.

YOU WILL MOVE OUT OF THE APPROVAL OF CLAIMS.

ONCE AGAIN, MR. LEE. >> WE HAVE TWO SETS OF CLAIMS. ONOPERATING EXPENSES FOR - -. THE SECOND FROM THE 2021 BOND IN THE AMOUNT OF $1100. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE

ANY QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. LEE REGARDING THE CLAIMS FOR BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING? SEEING NONE, THE CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION OF APPROVAL

OF THE CLAIMS. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. OPPOSE, ANY?

[6. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REPORT]

REPORT. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, OFF THE PROGRESS BEING MADE AS ALWAYS.

IT CONTINUES TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THE FAC'ADE IS MAKING PROGRESS OVER NEXT TO THE CARMICHAEL.

THE WINDSOR IS COMING ALONG AS WELL.

WE EXPECT THOSE TO BE OPEN MID NEXT YEAR.

THE TAVERN ON THE GREEN IS MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING A DLS PROGRESS NOW.

THAT'S A PORTION OF THE PROJECT THAT ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE HASAPPROVED . THE LARGEST COMING ALONG, THEY ARE ON THEIR FINAL UNITS. FIRST ON MAIN IS FLYING, THEY ARE STILL SLATED FOR MOVEMENT INTO THE OFFICE PORTION AROUND SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER.

I AM ESPECIALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROJECT FOR PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT THAT BUILDING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, IT IS GOING TO ENHANCE OURMAINSTREAM . I KNOW HE IS SEEING PROGRESS.

THE SECOND CONDO BUILDING UNDE CONSTRUCTION .

IF YOUR ADVISOR RECENTLY, THE POWDER FATHER NOW DEMOLISHED.

THE NEWS ON ONE SIXTEENTH STREET IS ALSO MOVING ALONG SWIFTLY. I'M GLAD THE BRICK FAC'ADE ON THECORNER IS UP . IT LOOKS GOOD.

SIGNATURE PROGRESS IS FLYING AS WELL, A BIG PROJECT OUR OLD MERIDIAN AND MAIN AREA. I HOPE EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO CHARGE THEIR EV VEHICLE AND THERE.

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THEY TOOK SOME SLIDES DOWN THE SLIDING SLIDE THAT CONNECTS TO A FAKE AIRPLANE. HOPEFULLY NO CHIROPRACTOR VISITS AFTER THAT FOR ANYBODY. - - IS ALSO MOVING FORWARD SWIFTLY. HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE SOME VERY GOOD RETAIL THERE SOON. - - IS GETTING READY FOR OUR CLOSING SO THEY CAN BEGIN THEIR PROJECT, THATWILL START SOON .

DEMO IS COMPLETE AT OLD MERIDIAN MAIN STREET ON THE ERS SITE. - - IS MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS WITHIN THE CITY NOW.

THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW HAS APPROVED IT TO MY WAITING FOR A HEARING ON THAT ONE NEXT MONTH. THE TOWNSHIP IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS THE CRC IS WORKING WITH THE TOWNSHIP ON THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. IT'S PRETTY HOT OUTSIDE FOR THATDAY . THAT IS A WELCOME FEATURE ENHANCEMENTTO OUR MIDTOWN AREA .

IT SHOULD BE STARTING SHORTLY. IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO DRIVER 96 TREE, YOU WOULD'VE SEEN OUR LATEST ROUND ABOUT OUR INSTALLATIONS NOW COMPLETE THE STUDEBAKER - - IS NOW INSTALLED BY THEY HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT. WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE.

>> COMMISSIONERS: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR ON THE PROJECTS? SEEING NONE, WE THANK YOU MISS

[7. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT, WE DID MEET AS HENRY JUST MENTIONED.

WE MET ON JUNE 29. WE ACTUALLY REVIEWED THREE PROJECTS . THE FIRST ONE WAS MORE ON SQUARE NORTH. THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL COMMITTEE ONCE AGAIN AS LONG AS THEY WILL ADDRESS COMMENTS NOTED IN THE PLANS DURING THE A DLS REVIEW.

THE SECOND ONE WE HAD A LOOK AT WAS THE MERCHANT'S BANK HEADQUARTERS. THAT'S ON THE OLD AT&T SITE.

IN THE MERCHANT BANK HEADQUARTERED GOING IN AT THE OLD AT&T SITE WHICH IS TO 10/3 AVENUE SOUTHWEST.

ONCE AGAIN, WE APPROVE THAT BASED UPON CONTINUED WORK WITH THE FOLKS DURING THE REVIEW. THE FINAL PROJECT THAT WE HAD A LOOK AT WAS THE HARVEST MARKET. WE HAD A LOOK AT THAT AND WE DECIDED TO DEFER REVIEW OF THE HARVEST MARKET TO THE DEPARTMENT OFCOMMUNITY SERVICES .

CRC HAS PASSED THAT DOWN FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL AND THAT

COMPLETES MY REPORT. >> THANK YOU, ANY QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER BROOKS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WE WILL MOVE ON. ANY OLD BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE

US THIS EVENING? >> THERE IS NOT MR. PRESIDENT.

[9a. Action Item #1 – Resolution 2023-23 re: selection of Design-Build proposal for Palladium Acoustic Upgrades project]

>> THANK YOU. YOU WILL NOW MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS CAN ACTION ITEM NUMBER ONE.

RESOLUTION 2023 Ã23. >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT.

THIS RESOLUTION IS IN REGARDS TO THE DESIGN BUILD PROPOSAL FOR THE PALLADIUM ACOUSTIC UPGRADES WAS TREATED HER FOR THE REPORT FOR THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.

WE ARE PRESENTING A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO ACCEPT

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PER THE STATUTE, THE PUBLIC AGENCY ISSUES A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. WE OPENLY YIELD PRICE PROPOSAL , DIVIDE EACH OF THE OFFERS PRICE FOR THE COMPOSITE SCORE AND THEN WE OBTAIN THE ADJUSTED PRICE.

ONCE THAT IS COMPLETED, THE AGENCY CAN ACCEPT THE PRICE PROPOSAL THAT PROVIDES THE BEST, LOW SUGGESTED PRICE WITH THE BEST VALUE TO THE TAXPAYER. I HAVE MY JURY HERE WITH ME TONIGHT IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE RESOLUTION ISWRITTEN . ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE WHAT WE WILL DO IS COMPLETE THE MATH, VERIFY THAT THE CONDITIONS OF THE PROPOSAL HAVE BEEN MET AND THEN HE WILL ENTERING INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH THAT LOW SUGGESTED PRICE OFFER AND WARS TO THE FINAL CONTRACT TERMS WITH THEM.

THIS MOTION WOULD BE TOO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE LOWEST ADJUSTED PRICE FOR THE PALLADIUM ACOUSTIC UPGRADES PROJECT. IT WOULD APPROVE AND RATIFY THE CONTINGENT AWARD FOR THE CONTRACT FOR THE DESIGN BUILD SERVICES TO THE SELECTED OFFER FROM ISSUE THE FORMAL CONTRACT AWARD AND NEGOTIATE AN EXIT CONTRACT TERMS WITH THE SELECTED OFFER IN THE EVENT HE DID NOT COME TO CONTRACT TERMS WITH THE BEST VALUE PROPOSAL, HE WOULD THEN MOVE ON TO THE SECOND LOWEST ADJUSTED PRICE PROPOSAL.

MIKE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? OKAY, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION.

>> ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ACTION AND NUMBER ONE?

>> CAN YOU JUST REFRESH MY MEMORY AND MAYBE OTHERS REGARDING DESIGN BUILD? WHEN YOU NEGOTIATORS, ARE THERE STILL CHANGE FEES? WHO HAS THE RISK? COULD YOU GIVE ME A QUICK PRIMER ON THAT PLEASE?

>> ABSOLUTELY. THIS CONTRACT IS WRITTEN AS A COST-PLUS FEE WITH A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.

THE PROPOSAL WE HAVE FROM THE OFFERS IS FOR A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AND IT DOES INCLUDE CONTINGENCIES.

AS WE GO THROUGH THE FINALIZATION OF THE DESIGN WITHOUT OFFER, WE WILL REFINE THE SCHEDULE OF VALUES FOR THE PROJECT AND DETERMINE WHAT IS GOING INTO EQUIPMENT, WHAT IS GOING INTO LABOR OVERHEAD, ALL THE GENERAL CONDITIONS THAT KIND OF THING. HE WOULD COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON WHAT ALL OF THOSE LINE ITEMS WOULD BE AS A PART OF THE CONTRACT. WITH THAT, WE WILL HAVE ALLOWANCES FOR US TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ABOUT PRODUCTS THAT ARE SELECTED THROUGH THAT PROCESS, BUT IN NO CASE WITH THE PRICE EXTEND BEYOND THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE IS IN THE PROPOSAL. THEIR JOB THROUGHOUT THE DESIGN PROCESS TO MEET THE BUDGET HAS BEEN APPROVED HERE.

>> WAS IT A DESIGN BUILD FORMAT THAT WE FOLLOWED FOR THE CITY SQUARE GARAGE?YOU ARE ON THE COMMITTEE?

OKAY, GOT YOU, I AM NOW THEM. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

YES, COMMISSIONER? >> COMMISSIONER: I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WERE ANY TIME CONSIDERATIONS, MOTIVATIONS BASED UPON THE LENGTH OF TIME FOR CONSTRUCTION AND ANY PENALTIES THAT MIGHT BE LEVIED IF THEY MISSED THE TIMING? RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT I'M ASSUMING PALLADIUM IS CLOSED DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME SO

THEY WILL NOT HAVE A BUSINESS . >> GREAT QUESTION.

WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE PALLADIUM STAFF TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A PERIOD OF TIME IDENTIFIED WHEN THE SYSTEM CAN BE TAKEN DOWN AND REINSTALLED. PALLADIUM STAFF WILL BE REMOVING THE EXISTING SYSTEM ON THEIR OWN BEFORE THE NEW SYSTEM IS IN PLACE.THERE IS AN EXTREMELY SHORT WINDOW NEXT JUNE IN WHICH THIS CAN OCCUR. ASSUMING THAT THERE ARE NO MAJOR EVENTS THAT CAUSE EXTENSIVE DELAYS TO DELIVERY OF EQUIPMENT, THIS WILL ALL HAPPEN ON SCHEDULE.IF BY CHANCE THERE WAS SOME SITUATION THAT WOULD CAUSE THE EQUIPMENT BE DELIVERED LATER, HE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE STAFF DEFINED A NEW WINDOW FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO RESCHEDULE SHOWS TO MAKE THIS TRANSITION OCCUR. AS FAR AS PENALTIES, THERE ARE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT

THE TERMS WERE. >> IT IS MORE THAN WHAT WE NORMALLY WOULD'VE ASSESSED BUT I WILL LET MIKE SHARE THE

DETAILS. >> HELLO EVERYONE.

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WHAT WE DID ON THIS PROJECT AND WORKING WITH JEFF AND PALLADIU , TAKING INTO EFFECT THE IMPACT OF LOSING THE SHOW, THAT ARE CLEARLY QUICK ACCELERATION OF POTENTIAL WATCHES.

WE BOTH ENTER LIQUIDATED DAMAGES AMOUNT.

IT IS STAGGERED TO GO UP IN AN INCREMENTAL TIME.

WE ALSO HAVE THE TIME, THE BULK OF THE CONTRACT DURATION BEFORE CONSTRUCTION ON SITE. IT'S A SHORT WINDOW IN THE CONTRACTORS AND BIDDERS HAVE ALL ACKNOWLEDGED THE PROTECTION WE HAVE PUT IN THERE. WE DO NOT INCLUDE AN INCENTIVE CLAUSE FOR PAYING ADDITIONAL MONEY TO GET DONE EARLY.

IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE ON THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE SHORT TIMEFRAME. GENERALLY, I DON'T RECOMMEND DOING THAT. WE INSTEAD PAY A FAIR PRICE, WE EXPECT IT TO GET DONE ON TIME AND WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY YOU TO FINISH EARLY. DOES THAT ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS? ONE OTHER COMMENT ON CHANGES, ANY PROJECTS, THERE CAN BE UNEXPECTED CHANGES THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE CONTRACT IN WHICH THE PRICE IS BASED. WE HAVE BUILT INTO OUR PRICE AND ALLOWANCE FOR THE CONTINGENCY FOR OWNER USE SO WE CAN ADDRESS IT IN THAT FASHION TO KEEP THINGS WITHIN THE BUDGET AND CONTRACT AMOUNT. ONLY IF YOU LET BEYOND THAT WILL THERE BE CHANGES, BUT IT IS ANTICIPATED ON THIS TYPE OF PROJECT THAT WOULD BE THE CASE. IT'S SO HEAVILY INVOLVED ON

EQUIPMENT WHICH IS A WELL-KNOWN PRICE.>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NINE.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR YOU? >> NOTHING FOR ME.

>> IF IT IS YOUR PLEASURE COMMISSIONERS, THE CHAIRMAN WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION OF APPROVAL.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023 Ã23, SELECTION DESIGN BUILD PROPOSAL FOR PALLADIUM ACOUSTIC UPGRADES

PROJECT. >> THANK YOU, SECOND?

>> OUR SECOND. >> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? IT IS APPROVED, THANK YOU VERY

[9b. Action Item #2 – Approval of PSA for environmental consulting and groundwater and soil sampling work]

>> SO, WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK TO REDEVELOP MONON SQUARE.

THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT WAS THE HOME TO A FORMER CLEANER OR SORRY, THE NORTHWEST WAS HOME TO A FORMER CLEANER SITE THAT WE HAVE SINCE REMEDIATED AND HAD INSURANCE ASSIGNED TO US TO WORK ON THAT SITE. THE NORTHEAST PARCEL WAS A FORMER SPEEDWAY GAS STATION THAT MY PREDECESSOR HAD REMEDIATED AND HAD INSURANCE ASSIGNED TO US ON THAT SITE.

SINCE WE FINALLY KNOW WHAT THE EXACT DEVELOPMENT IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO, WE ARE NOW WORKING WITH BOTH OF THOSE INSURANCE COMPANIES TO WORK TOWARDS ESSENTIALLY APPROVAL TO DEVELOP THE EXACT DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE DEVELOPMENT PARTNER ON THAT SITE WANTS TO DO. WE HAVE THREE THINGS GOING ON.

WE WANT TO RETAIN SESCO WHO HAS WORKED ON THE SITE FOR YEARS FOR US FOR GENERAL, ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING AND BE OF SEPARATED UPDATED TEST GOING TO DO ON BOTH OF THE SITES INTO A NORTHWEST PARCEL AND NORTHEAST PARCEL.

THAT IS WHY YOU SEE ESSENTIALLY MULTIPLE GROUNDWATER AND SOIL

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THIS WAY, WE CAN STAY ON SCHEDULE TO MOVE THE DEVELOPMENT FORWARD AT THE RATE WE WANT TO MOVE AT THEN WE WILL GO AGAINST THE INSURANCE COMPANIES FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF THE WORK AFTER THAT. THIS ESSENTIALLY IMPROVES SOIL AND GROUNDWATER TESTING AND GENERALLY ENGAGES SESCO FOR ONGOING CONSULTANT WORK. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> THANK YOU MR. DIRECTOR TO MY

QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR? >> THE VERY SOUTHERN PARCEL, ARE WE - - THIS WHOLE SIDE IS LOOKED AT THE SAME TIME? I THINK EVERYTHING WE COULD DEVELOP AT ONE POINT.

IF WE HAVE NOT, MAYBE WE SHOULD.

>> IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT WHEN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF MONON SQUARE DEVELOPED, OUR PARCELS HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED TOGETHER.

RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ONLY DOING MONON SQUARE NORTH AND THOSE ARE ENTIRELY PARCEL THAT ARE GOING TO BE A PART OF THE MONON SQUARE DEVELOPMENTS. AS A PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL TEST TO THE EXTENT THERE IS ANY MY MENTAL WORK, WE WOULD ELIMINATE THE LIMITS OF IT WHICH WE TODAY BELIEVE IS ENTIRELY ON THE NORTH SIDE BECAUSE THEY COME FROM TWO SOURCES. FOR THE PURPOSES OF SPECIFICALLY ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING, THERE CANNOT BE ANYTHING ON THE SOUTH SIDE AT ALL, IT SHOULD ALL BE CONTAINED ON THE NORTH SIDE. ONE OTHER THING SPECIFIC TO YOUR QUESTION IS REMEMBER THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS PUTTING VETERANS THROUGH THAT SITE AND AN EAST-WEST STREET THERE. THE CITY IS ALREADY CRATING THE BOUNDARIES OF THESE PARCELS OF THE FOUR QUADRANTS THROUGH HIS ROADWORK AND ROAD NETWORK. WHEN IT IS TIME TO DEVELOP THE TWO SOUTHERN PARCELS, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE A TEAM EFFORT BETWEEN US AND WHOEVER IS THE OWNER OF THOSE SOUTHERNMOST

PARCELS. >> THANK YOU MR. DIRECTOR, OTHER QUESTION AT THIS POINT? SEEING NINE, IT IS A PLEASURE THE CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION OF APPROVAL.

>> I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE PSA FOR ENVIRONMENT OF CONSULTING AND GROUNDWATER AND SOIL SAMPLING WORK.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

THE CHAIR WILL NOW CALL FOR A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN? IT IS APPROVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[9c. Action Item #3 – Masonry repair contract]

THIS IS A CONTRACT FOR PALLADIAN MASONRY REPAIR.

>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. WHILE AT THE PALLADIUM, I DISCOVERED THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH SOME NONSTRUCTURAL REPAIR UP IN THE ATTIC LEVEL OF THE PALLADIUM.

I'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT GETTING THAT SMALL AREA REPAIRED. IT'S A REALLY INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK RELATIVE TO THE SCOPE OF THE PALLADIUM ALMOST STRUCTURAL WORK, THIS IS REPLACING BLOCK AHEAD AND MOVED FROM REPAIR WORK THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE ROOF OF THE PALLADIUM PREVIOUSLY. FOR SOME REASON, THE BLOCK WAS NOT PLACED AND CRACKS ARE FORMED AROUND EDGES OF THAT OPENING. WE RECEIVED QUOTES FROM THREE CONTRACTORS AND RECEIVED TWO ACTUAL QUOTES.

WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH HAGERMAN CONSTRUCTION.

THEY DID THE ORIGINAL MASONRY ON THE PALLADIUM.

WE ARE ASKING FOR YOU TO APPROVE A CONTRACT FOR THEM TO DO THAT MASONRY REPAIR AT THE PALLADIUM IN THE AMOUNT OF

$9981. >> THANK YOU, OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MASONRY REPAIR WORK? SEEING NINE, IT IS YOUR PLEASURE GENTLEMEN, THE CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION OF

APPROVAL. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT FOR THE MASONRY REPAIR FOR $9990 PAYABLE FROM THE NANO

TO FUND. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, IS

THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> THANK YOU, IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, THIS MATTER BEFORE US, PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

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[9d. Action Item #4 – Approval of PSA for design and fabrication of art signage]

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. TODAY WE ARE REQUESTING TO ENGAGE SIGN WORK TO DESIGN, FABRICATE AND INSTALL PUBLIC ART SIGAGE SIMILAR TO THE IMAGE SHOWN HERE.

IF THE ALUMINUM Z SHAPED SIGNS WITH - - THIS IS AN EXAMPLE FROM SARASOTA WHERE THEY HAVE THE CITY LOGO ENGRAVED.

HE WILL DO THE SAME THINGWITH THE CITY OF PROMOTE LOGO .

THESE WILL BE LOCATED ALONG THE MONON AND THE CENTRAL CORE AT ROUNDABOUTS. I HAVE A FEW MORE PICTURES TO SHOW. THE PHYSICAL EXAMPLE OF A FABRICATED ONE IN SARASOTA. HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE CITY F CARMEL PLAQUE WILL LOOK LIKE.

IT WILL HAVE THE LOGO, THE NAME OF THE ART, THE ARTIST, THE YEAR IT WAS FABRICATED AND A SELECT OF THE ART.

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE. THIS ONE IS LOCATED ALONG THE MONON. STAFF IS REQUESTING CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $56,285 WITH SIGN WORKS.

THIS IS PAYABLE FROM THE 902 FUND AND THE 2021 BONDS.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT?

>> THANK YOU, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER.

>> COMMISSIONER: I SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY CALLED YOU IN ADVANCE AND I APOLOGIZE I DID NOT. I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS PERIOD. IS IT 11 OR OTHER MORE THAN 11?

>> THERE WILL BE 11 PUBLIC ART SCIENCE SIGNS.

>> OKAY, I KNOW YOU SAID ALONG THE MONON, WHERE ARE THE 11 PIECES OF ART THAT YOU INDICATE THESE WITH?

>> AND HAVE THE EXACT LIST EVERYTHING THAT IS WITHIN THE LOCKABLECORE . IT WILL BE FROM THE CLAY TRAPPING AREA TO THE PROSCENIU .

>> WE COULD PROBABLY DO IT. >> I DID THINK IT WAS ODD THERE

WAS - - >> THE ABSTRACT ART AT 136 AND

RANGE LINE. >> IT WOULD BE ON THE SIDEWALK FACING THE ROUNDABOUT ART. THE ONE THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE RACING FLAG, THAT ONE WILL PROBABLY BE ON THE MIDTOWN SIDE OF IT. WE SELECT THE LOCATIONS, WE WORK WITH ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THE TRANSPORTATION COORDINATOR TO BETTER LOCATIONS.

THE LIMESTONE SCULPTURE BY THE PHONE BOOTH, THE BIG FLOWER

ONE? >> SO, WHAT KIND OF MAINTENANCE? HOW DURABLE ARE THESE THINGS AND WHAT WILL THEY LOOK LIKE IN 10 YEARS?

>> YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE PICTURE OF THAT YOUNG MODEL

THERE. >> WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY, AS SPOKEN TO SEVEN OR EIGHT DIFFERENT SIGN FABRICATOR TO COME UP WITH THE BEST MOST DURABLE MATERIAL.

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IT'S A ONE YEAR WARRANTY - - WARRANTY EXPIRING.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, AN OTHER QUESTIONS ?

>> I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. DO WE ANTICIPATE, THIS IS NOT BEEN A BIG PROLEM HERE THANK HEAVENS.

OCCASIONALLY, WE HAVE HAD SOME GRAFFITI DAMAGE TO SOME OF THE STATUES HERE IN TOWN. HOPE YOU HAVE ANY VIDEO MONITORING OF THESE WHERE IF THEY ARE DAMAGED WE CAN DETERMINE WHO MIGHT HAVE DONE THAT?

IS THAT PART OF THE PLAN AT THIS POINT?>> I BELIEVE A LOT OF THE PUBLIC ART HAS CAMERAS, CITY CAMERAS ON IT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS? THE CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION OF APPROVAL.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PSA FOR DESIGN AND PUBLICATION OF PUBLIC ART SIGNAGE FOR A TOTAL OF 56,685 WITH - - PAYABLE FROM THE NANO TO FUND AND 7700

PAYABLE. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BROOKS FOR READING ALL OFTHAT . IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. IT PASSES THREE ÃONE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONERS. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT

[9e. Action Item #5 – Approval of PSA for design of ECO parking and security cameras at Tarkington Garage]

>> OUT MANY OF YOU HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO DRIVE THROUGH THE CITY SQUARE PARKING GARAGE THAT HAS PARKING COUNTERS ON THEIR TELLS PEOPLE WITH THE COUNTERSIGNED FAMILY PARKING SPACES ARE AVAILABLE. WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN HIS LIGHTS ABOVE THE CROCODILES HAVE BASICALLY TELL YOU WHERE SPOTS ARE AVAILABLE. THE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON THE PORTAL THAT I BELIEVE OUR IT DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING INTO INCORPORATING A WEBSITE OR AN APP AS WELL.

ESSENTIALLY, THESE PARKING COUNTERS SERVE TWO PURPOSES.

THEY LIKE THE GARAGE AND SERVICE PARKING COUNTERS.

TRAVELING WESTWARD TO THE TARKINGTON GARAGE WHICH WAS BUILT AROUND 2011. IF YOU HAVE BEEN IN THERE, HE CAN GET A BIT DIM AT TIMES. IT'S TIME TO REPLACE THOSE LIGHTS. IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO HAVE OUR CITY GARAGES WITH THE TARKINGTON GARAGE BEING OUT TRUE CITY GARAGES TO BE A PART OF THE SAME SYSTEM.

AS WE REPLACE THE LIGHTS, IT ALSO MAKES SENSE TO INCORPORATE THE PARKING COUNTER TECHNOLOGY INTO THE LIGHT REPLACEMENT PROJECT. THIS IS GENERALLY GOING TO BE A CITY OF CARMEL STREET PROJECT AS THEY ARE LONG-TERM MAINTAINERS OF THESE GARAGES. THE CRC IS ASSISTING BY ENGAGING A LOCALLY BASED ENGINEERING FIRM TO LAY OUT THE SPECS FOR THE STREET DEPARTMENT TO GO AND BID OUT TO A BIT OF SECURITY CAMERAS IN MY GARAGE AND SPECKED OUT HOW THE NEW LIGHTING AND CAMERA SYSTEM WOULD WAY OUT AND ALSO EXPLORE HOW WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL EV CAPACITY WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING CAPACITY TO THAT GARAGE AS WELL.

ESSENTIALLY WE WILL MODERNIZE THAT GARAGE IN TERMS OF ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS AVAILABLE IN THAT GARAGE.

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FORWARD. >> THANK YOU MR. DIRECTOR, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER WORRELL.

>> COMMISSIONER: I WILL MAKE A COMMENT, YOU WILL BE SURPRISED AT HOW PEOPLE HAVE COMMENTED TO ME ABOUT THAT THE INGENIOUS AND SCARINESS. I'M SURPRISED IT IS THIS PRICE, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU. I'M SURPRISED IT IS STILL WITHIN THAT REALM THAT WE CAN GET THIS GOING.

HAVE THE ENGINEER SAID WHAT IT WOULDTAKE TO CHANGE THE

LIGHTING SYSTEM ? >> WE BELIEVE IT WILL HOPEFULLY COME IN AROUND HALF A MILLION TO DO THAT OR UNDER THAT.

THAT'S ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE PICTURES AND INSULATION.

I BELIEVE THE STREET DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT LEASING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT SO IT IS NOT JUST ONE HIT AT A TIME.

>> I WAS TYPING TO THE PERSON WHO WAS COMPLAINING TO ME SO I MISSED THATPART, THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT .

>> OTHER QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS?

>> JUST ONE QUESTION, HENRY. SOME OF THE SPACE IN THE GARAGE ARE RESERVED FOR TENANTS OR OTHER USE.

WILL THE DESIGN OF THE VACANT SPACE LIKE TOBE ABLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN SPACE CAPITAL A AND SPACE B? I TO USE AN AWFUL LOT FOR SHOWS AND THAT SORT OF THING SO THAT

WOULD BE MOST HELPFUL. >> THAT'S WHY WE SELECTED THE SYSTEM FOR THIS GARAGE. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE CALENDARS THAT YOU STICK IN THE FRONT. YOU COUNT WHEN A CAR COMES IN AND COUNT ON A CAR COMES OUT. IT DOES NOT TELL YOU THAT CARS PARKING IN A HANDICAPPED SPOT OR A RESERVE SPOT, IT IS NOT

TELL YOU MUCH. >> THE WAY THESE PARKING CAMERAS WORK IS THAT THERE CAMERAS IN THE LIGHTS THAT POINT AT SPECIFIC PARKING SPACES.

ONCE WE MAP WHAT EACH PARKING SPACE INSIDE THE GARAGE, IS HOW WE ARE ABLE TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY EV SPOTS REMAIN OPEN OR ADA SPOTS REMAIN OPEN. IT'S A LONG ANSWER TO YES, WE WILL KNOW SPOT BY SPOT ACCURACY WHICH SPOTS ARE RESERVED IN

WHICH SPOTS ARE AVAILABLE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> OUT OF CURIOSITY, I HAVE NOT BEEN TO THE OTHER GARAGE YET, IS IT A RED AND GREEN LIGHT KIND OF THING?

>> YES, IT'S A GREEN LIGHT WHEN THERE ARE SEVERAL SPACES AVAILABLE AND ANOTHER LIGHT WHEN THERE ARE A FEW SPACES AVAILABLE AND A RED LIGHT WHEN THERE ARE NO SPACES AVAILABLE.

WHAT THIS DOES, WITH SOME OF THE STALLS ARE CLOSE TOGETHER, IT PREVENTS YOU FROM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHERE SPOT IS. YOU WERE JUST NOW THAT THERE IS NOT A SPOT ON THE ISLE YOU WOULD DRIVE THROUGH AND

CONTINUE ON. >> OF THE MOTORCYCLE PARKED

CLOSE WILL STILL SHOW IT. >> IT WOULD CATCH THE MOTORCYCLE. IT WOULD CATCH THEM ALL.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS,

COMMISSIONERS? >> IF IT IS YOUR PLEASURE, THE CHAIRMAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE PSA WITH KBS SO DESIGN AT THE TARKINGTON

FOR 24,000. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I WILL SECOND QUESTION HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.THE CHAIR WILL NOW CALL TO QUESTION THEM ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? IT IS APPROVED, THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONERS.

HE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ACTION ITEM WHICH IS ACTION AND

[9f. Action Item #6 – Resolution 2023-24 re: grant of 611 3rd Avenue SW to CMCDC]

>> ESSENTIALLY IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE CITY CENTER DRIVE,

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THAT'S OWNED BY THE CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IN ORDER TO FURTHER REDEVELOPMENT, IT MAKES SENSE FOR THOSE TWO PARCELS TO HAVE THE SAME OWNER. THIS ESSENTIALLY GRANTS THAT LASER FLASHLIGHT TO THE CARMEL MIDTOWN THE BOWMAN CORPORATIONS OF THOSE TWO ADDITION PARCELS ARE ESSENTIALLY HELD BY THE SAME OWNER. THEY ARE A PARTNER ENTITY OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION THAT IS INVOLVED IN A LOT OF LAND TRANSACTIONS WITH SEVERAL OTHER ONES, WE WORK WITH THEM VERY OFTEN. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU MR. DIRECTOR.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR REGARDING RESOLUTION 2023 Ã24, THE GRANT OF 611 THIRD AVENUE TO THE CARMEL MIDTOWN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION? SEEING NONE. IF IT IS YOUR PLEASURE COMMISSIONERS, THE CHAIRMAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION OF APPROVAL.

>> APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 2023 Ã24, THE GRANT AGREEMENT CARMEL MIDTOWN COMMUNITY VELMA CORPORATION.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

[Additional Item]

>> THIS IS LISTED UNDER NEW BUSINESS BUT SHOULD BE LISTED UNDER A CATEGORY CALLED INCREDIBLY OLD BUSINESS.

BACK IN 2011 - - BILL THE APARTMENT PROJECT THAT SURROUNDS THE TARKINGTON GARAGE THAT WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT AS A PART OF THAT PROJECT, THERE WAS AN OUTSTANDING OBLIGATION OF $690,000 HAS BEEN SHOWN AS A RECEIVABLE ON OUR FINANCIALS FOR THE LAST DECADE OR SO. THE DEVELOPER IS NOW READY TO MAKE THAT PAYMENT. WE WILL TERMINATE ALL THE AGREEMENTS THAT RELATE TO THE PAYMENT WITH THAT PAYMENT BEING COUNTED AS A FULL PAYMENT WITH ALL RELATED OBLIGATIONS.

THEY ARE ALSO GOING TO BE A COUPLE RELEASES OF ANY CLAIMS AGAINST THE CRC. THE CONCRETE IN FRONT OF YOU IS FAIRLY FINAL BUT THERE WILL BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO THAT AS THE COUNCIL FOR THE CRC WILL NEGOTIATE TO MAKE SURE THAT IS SQUARED AWAY. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU MR. DIRECTOR, QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS AGREEMENT? SEEING NONE, IF IT IS YOUR PLEASURE COMMISSIONERS, THE CHAIRMAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION OF APPROVAL.

>> I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE THE TERMINATION OF THE AGREEMENT.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, IS THERE A SECOND? IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. THE CHAIR WILL NOW PRESENT THE MOTION.ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? IT IS APPROVED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONERS.

IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION THIS

EVENING TOO. >> THERE IS NO MR. PRESIDENT.

>> VERY GOOD. OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING WILL BE WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 16 AT 6:40 P.M. HERE IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS I BELIEVE.SO, WITHOUT OBJECTION WE ARE

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