Aug 21, 2023 City Council Meeting 08-21-2023

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[2. AGENDA APPROVAL]

[3. INVOCATION]

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WE WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS THE COMMON COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA ON MONDAY AUGUST 21 2023 AT 6:00 P.M.. WE HAVE A QUORUM CAN I PLEASE GET AN

APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA >> I MOVED TO PROVE. >> APPROVED.

WE ARE NOW ON THE INDICATION. > FOR KEEP US MINDFUL OF YOU AND OF OUR NEIGHBOR.

HELP US TO HELP EACH OTHER. FOR THIS AND THINGS WE GIVE YOU PRAISE AND ASK IT IN YOUR SON

[4. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

>> AND ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE RISE FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

COUNSELOR NELSON WILL LEAD US. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO I HAVE ANY BOY SCOUTS IN THE ROOM WHO ARE WORKING ON THEIR MERIT BADGE? WILL YOU PLEASE STAND AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF. LET'S GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR BEING HERE.

[5. RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS]

>> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. WE ARE PROUD TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TWO SPECIAL GUESTS FROM OUR SISTER CITY. WE HAVE A FIRST CHANCE FOR AN EXCHANGE PROGRAM AND LATER IN SEPTEMBER WERE TWO OFFICES WILL GO THERE TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT FROM THEM AND HOW THEY POLICE.

IF YOU COULD COME UP. THIS IS A INSPECTOR PATROL OFFICER AND ELVIS IS A DEPUTY CHIEF THINK YOU CHIEF AND WELCOME. THIS IS A TRADITION FOR US WITH

WE DO WHEN WE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEW OFFICERS. >> THANK YOU AND BE SAFE.

[APPLAUSE] NEXT STEP COULD I HAVE EVAN MANDERS. PLEASE IF YOU WOULD TAKE THIS.

BEFORE YOU START EVAN. NOT EVERY BOY SCOUT CAN DO THIS.

ONLY EVAN CAN DO THIS BECAUSE HE HAS SOLD THE MOST POPCORN OF ANY BOY SCOUTS.

IS IT IN THE WORLD OF THE UNIVERSE? [LAUGHTER] HOW MANY DID YOU SELL? I'M TOLD YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER MEMORIZED.

>> 9381. [APPLAUSE] EVAN DO YOU HAVE A QUICK PITCH?

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>> MY NAME IS EVAN AND I AM ON MY WAY TO SUMMER CAMP. CAN I COUNT ON YOUR SUPPORT?

IF YOU DON'T HAVE CASH DON'T WE TAKE CREDIT CARD. >> THAT IS FANTASTIC.

HOW WOULD I PARTICIPATE EVAN? CAN YOU TELL PEOPLE ABOUT THIS? THERE IS A QR CODE?

>> YOU CAN SCAN IT AND I THINK IT WILL GO TO. >> THE PLACE TO BUY POPCORN.

>> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO KNOW? THANK YOU AND LET'S GET ON THE.

[APPLAUSE] >> ON YOUR FLYER YOU WANTED TO GET OVER 11,000 SO HE'S ALMOST

THERE LET'S HELP THEM OUT. >> THANK YOU EVAN. IF YOU WANT TO PASS THESE OUT IS THAT OKAY? ANYONE THAT MIGHT WANT TO PARTICIPATE.

>> MIXED UP REALLY QUICKLY ON THE RECOGNITION OF THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT AUXILIARY.

PERHAPS YOU DIDN'T HEAR. THEY ACHIEVED A WORLD RECORD DURING THE CARMEL FEST PARADE.

N A BUT, ERIC REINHARDT AND ANGIE A BREAK WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY WILL THANK YOU TO THE CITIZENS OF CARMEL FOR HELP SETTING THE RECORD FOR MOST PEOPLE WEARING RED PLASTIC FIRE HELMETS AT THE PARADE. THE NUMBER HAS BEEN CERTIFIED

AT 14,834. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU TO THE SPONSORS WHO PURCHASED THE HATS. HE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A BIG SHOT OUT TO JEFF HE JUMPED IN

WITH BOTH FEET AND WE APPRECIATE THAT SUPPORT. >> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PLAQUES. THANK YOU FOR THE CITIZENS OF CARMEL AND WE HAVE THIS A CERTIFICATE. THE OFFICIAL CERTIFICATE. THEY WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY

THANK YOU. >> OKAY GREAT. [APPLAUSE]

>> NANCY DO YOU WANT TO GET A PICTURE? >> TO HOLD THEM UP FOR YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. [APPLAUSE] THE FUN IS OVER. IT'S NOW TIME FOR THE WORK.

[6. RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL]

COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. LIGHT BY THE PODIUM WILL START GREEN AND THEN GO TO YELLOW WITH 30 SECONDS LEFT AND THEN TURN RED WHEN TIME IS UP.

ANY FORM OF DEMONSTRATION SUCH AS SIGNS, CLAPPING AND CHEERING IS NOT ALLOWED.

FAILURE TO COMPLY MAY RESULT IN YOU BEING ASKED TO LEAVE. >> MY NAME IS DARREN JOHNSON I'M RUNNING FOR MAYOR OF CARMEL. THIS IS IN REGARDS TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FROM TWO WEEKS AGO. THERE WAS A MENTION OF CITY FUNDING GOING TOWARDS THE SCHOOL BOARD. IT WAS MENTIONED THAT ONLY STATE TAXES CAN ADDRESS THAT AS WELL AS OFFERS IN THE REFERENDUM THAT'S ON THE BALLOT

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NUMBER FOUR IS TO PROVIDE A SOURCE OF PUBLIC FUNDS USED TO PURCHASE EACH PARCEL AND LASTLY PLEASE PROVIDE THE SALES FOR PRICE IN WHICH THE PARCEL WAS PURCHASED AFTER IT WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE DEVELOPER. THE CRC IS TAX EXEMPT I WANTED BY THE PARCEL TO SCHOOLS NO LONGER RECEIVE THE REVENUE FROM THE ASSESSED VALUE IN THE PROPERTY TAX WAS TAXABLE.

I'M INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHETHER THE CRC'S PURCHASE OF 125 PARCEL PLUS FUTURE COST MIGHT ACTUALLY BE LEAVING TAXPAYERS HOLDING THE BAG WITH REGARD TO THE REFERENDUM WHICH

IS ALSO ON THE BALLOT THIS YEAR. >> NEXT UP IS BRENDA MYERS.

>> I WILL LEAVE.> STEVE BAUMAN. >> I WILL WAIT.

>> PAUL ZALE. >> I WILL WAIT. >> CHRISTINE ALLMAN.

>> I WILL WAIT. >> JAMES N. >> DEFERRED.

>> RUSSELL JONESONES. >> I WILL WAIT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.E WILL NOW MOVE ON TO COUNCIL AND MAYOR COMMENTS AND OBSERVATIONS.

[8. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> NEXT WE WILL GO TO CONSENT AGENDA. I HAVE THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM AUGUST 7, 2023. THAT WAS OUR REGULAR MEETING.. CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF PAYROLL $3540 408 CENTS. GENERAL CLAIMS ARE $3,684,645.94.

RETIREMENT IS $107,695.97. WIRE TRANSFERS TOTALED $6,121,420.99.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[10. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

>> THE THAT NOTION CARRIES. >> MISTER PRESIDENT WE HAVE NOT MET THIS IS THE LONGEST WE'VE GONE WITHOUT A MEETING WHILE I CHAIR THE COMMITTEE AND ANTICIPATE WE WILL MEET AFTER

DAY. >> I PROMISE YOU I AM REFERRINGRRING THIS NEXT ITEM TO YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER COMMITTEE REPORTS THAT I AM AWARE OF.

[13. PUBLIC HEARINGS]

FIRST HEARINGS OF ORDINANCE IS THE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMUNAL COUNCILS ESTABLISHING THE COUNTER PRAIRIE STRICT PLAN UNIT.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION. >> MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> IT IS BEEN PROPERLY INTRODUCED. COUNSELOR WILL YOU PLEASE READ

THE SYNOPSIS. >> THIS ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES THE CONNER PRAIRIE WEST INNOVATION PLAN UNIT ORDINANCE. THE ORDINANCE AND REAL ESTATE FROM S-1 RESIDENTIAL AND LEGACY ORDINANCE Z50107 TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ALLOWING THE EXPANSION OF THE CONNER PRAIRIE MUSEUM ONTO THE SITE AND IT STYLE AND CHARACTER ON THE ATTACHED PLAN AND

IMAGERY. >> THE WAY THAT I'M GOING TO HANDLE THIS TONIGHT.

WE WILL HAVE AN INTRODUCTION FROM THE PETITIONERS. WE WILL EXPLAIN WHERE THE PROJECT IS, COMING OUT A PLANNED COMMISSION THEY HAVE THEIR CONSULTANTS AND FOLKS

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THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND PUBLIC HEARING. >> PLEASE GO AHEAD AND MAKE

YOUR PRESENTATIO. >> > LOOKS LIKE WE NEED OUR PRESENTATION CONSIDER THIS

CAMERA PLEASE. >> JUST TO TAKE PRESSURE OFF OF YOU DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU CAN START US OUT WITH THAT MAYBE IS JUST CONVERSATION? I DO WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE'S TIME. AND MAYBE GET US STARTED OFF WITH WHERE YOU WERE AND WHERE

WE ARE NOW WITH THE PROJECT. >> I HAVE A PAPER VERSION SO WE CAN JUMP IN USING YOUR

CAMERA. >> EVENING AMANDA BRADFORD AND THE CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER.

IT'S AN ABSOLUTE PRIVILEGE TO BE WITH YOU TONIGHT. SEEING SO MANY FAMILIAR FACES HERE AND IN THE CROWD I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE BOY SCOUTS WE ARE SO PROUD TO HAVE YOU IN OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORTING THE BREWERY AS WELL. YOU DO A LOT OF OFFSHORE WORK WHEN IT COMES TO THE RIVER'S HEALTH. WE WERE HONORED TO HOST THEM LAST AT CORNER. TO GIVE THEM A TOUR OF THE GROUNDS AND TALK A LOT ABOUT INDIANA HISTORY TO GIVE THEM A SENSE OF WHAT THEY WERE VISITING.

I'M GOING TO BE TALKING A BIT ABOUT HOW WE SEE THE NEXT PARTNERSHIP FOR TOMORROW.

IF WE THINK ABOUT THE CITY OF CARMEL'S MOTTO AND WHAT'S OVER JEFF'S HEAD WE ARE EXCITED TO LEAN INTO THIS WITH YOU TONIGHT AND WE WILL LOCK YOU THROUGH A FEW THINGS ABOUT WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHERE WE ARE HEADED. A LITTLE HARD TO READ. AT THIS POINT I'LL GET YOU STARTED. BY TALKING ABOUT THE INCREDIBLE RECOGNITION WE SEE WITH THE CITY OF CARMEL. BEING RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THE SAFEST CITIES TO RAISE A CHILD IT'S THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE TWO YEARS IN A ROW. THE INCREDIBLE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE PARK SYSTEM. THE WAYS IN WHICH THE MARKET HAS RECOGNIZE THE HOLIDAY MARKET IN THE US AND THE WAY THE MIDTOWN EXPANSION PRODUCT HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED WITH THE AWARD FR EXCELLENCE. THIS IS NO DOUBT BECAUSE OF THE INNOVATION OF THIS COUNSEL IN A LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY OF CARMEL. WE ARE PROUD TO BE A PART OF THIS WORK AND TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE WILL HOLD FOR US.

LET'S THINK ABOUT TAT FUTURE TOGETHER FOR JUST A MINUTE. THIS IS WHERE CONNER PRAIRIE GETS EXCITED. EVERYONE OVER THE SHOULDER NOT THE SHOULDER.

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WE THINK ABOUT THE CONCENTRATION CAMP IS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO YOU TONIGHT.

THE WAYS IN WHICH WE MIGHT PARTNER TO MAXIMIZE AND THINK ABOUT WHAT AWARDS COULD BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT OF LAND.

AS YOU KNOW WHEN THE PROJECT WAS DONE WE LOOK AT A 15% NUMBER IN THE DEVELOPMENT WITH 85% BEING MAINTAINED THE NATURAL HABITAT. WE COULD SEE IN THE FUTURE AS THIS COMES TOGETHER AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR MAXIMIZING LAND PRESERVATION AND THE BENEFIT OF THE RESTORATION AND DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES.

WE LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY ON HOW WE ACTIVATE THE WATERSHED.

WE KNOW THIS IS A CRITICAL PART OF THE CITY'S PLAN AND HOW CONNER PRAIRIE SEES US ACTIVATING FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE FACED WITH AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS WE KNOW THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT INNOVATIVE PRACTICES WHEN IT COMES TO LAND AND WATER MANAGEMENT. WE WANT THE CITY TO BE RECOGNIZED GLOBALLY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY IT HAS TO THINK ABOUT PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN MUNICIPALITIES, NONPROFIT AND FOR-PROFIT AGENCIES AS WE LOOK AT FINDING SOLUTIONS TO THE

WATER THAT WE RELY ON COMING ON EVERY DAY. >> I WANT TO SPEND A MINUTE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THE CITY OF CARMEL AND OUR NEIGHBORS.

THIS CAMPUS BUILT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF CARMEL CAN BECOME A NATIONAL BEST PRACTICE FOR BLENDING HING, RESEARCH, INNOVATION AND CONVERSATION.

WE BELIEVE THERE WILL BE NOTHING LIKE IT IN THE MIDWEST. CONSERVATION DESIGN, DEVELOPED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR CONSULTANTS AND THOSE THAT DO THIS ON A NATIONAL SCALE IS A PRACTICE THAT INCLUDES INTENTIONALLY CLUSTERING DEVELOPMENT TO MAXIMIZE THE ABILITY, PRESERVE OPEN SPACE, PRESERVE NATURAL FEATURES AND ENHANCE VIEWS AND MANAGE HABITATS AND FARMLANDS. THIS IS A MAJOR PART IN A MAJOR PLAYER BUT WE ARE PROPOSING

WITH THE RESULTING CONSERVATION CAMPUS. >> WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE SOME OF THE DETAILS THAT I GO THROUGH THIS EVENING. YOU HAVE IS A SENSE OF HOW CONNER PRAIRIE LOOKS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND THE REZONING OF THE PD.

WITH A 3.3 MILES UP ON THE PROPERTY OR SHORELINE WE HAVE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY TEACH BUT THINK ABOUT SOLUTIONS FOR WATERWAYS. THE WORK AT THE MUSEUM HELPS US THINK ABOUT THE WAYS WE CAN REDUCE THE PHOSPHATE IN THE WATERSHED.

WE HAVE A GLOBAL IMPACT HERE LOCALLY IN OUR COMMUNITIES. YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE EXPLORING THE FOOD FARM AND ENERGY EXPERIENCE WHICH WILL ATTRACT NATIONAL PARTNERS WHEN IT COMES TO THINKING AND EXPLORING THE DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN SOLVE SOME OF THE WORLD'S GREATEST CHALLENGES WHEN IT COMES TO FEEDING A RECORDING POPULATION. IT'S A WAY TO PARTNER NOT ONLY WITH THE CITY OF CARMEL BY SOME OF THE FLEETING ENTITIES ON SHORT LINE WORK AND ON THE RIVERS HELP. IT'S A CORE PART OF THIS PROJECT AND WE BELIEVE WHOLLY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE WHERE THE SOLUTIONS ARE FOUND WHEN IT COMES TO THE FUTURE OF OUR WATERWAYS. ECO-LODGING, LAND WATER AND ENERGY INNOVATION CENTERS AS WELL AS A CONSERVATION PRESERVE IS ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF WHAT WE CALL THE LAMB CHOP WHICH IS

A NEWLY DEVELOPED SPACE. >> THE SPACE IS IN DIRECT RESPONSE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAD HERE WITH COUNSEL ON THE COMMISSION CONSIDERING HOW WE CONTINUE TO LEAN INTO THIS CONSERVATION CAMPUS. WE KNOW THAT SOLUTIONS NEED TO BE D.

THEY CAN BE INSPIRED AND OUR GUESTS, THROUGH THE MUSEUM EXPERIENCE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE TALKING ABOUT FOOD FARM AND GY AND ARE PARTNER WITH THE PARKS FOR THE WHITE RIVER EDUCATION CENTER. WE ALSO KNOW THAT INNOVATION SOLUTIONS FOR TODAY MUST BE EXPLORED. THOSE INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS FOR TODAY CAN COME THROUGH A COLLECTION OF LEADING MINDS WITH ENERGY INNOVATION. I'M TO TAKE A QUICK MINUTE JUST

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IT TELLS US WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHERE WE ARE HEADED. WE WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE HIGHLIGHT TALKING ABOUT THE MOVEMENTS OF THE STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY THAT ARE PUT FORWARD IS THAT OVER 85% OF THE NATURAL AND THAT NATURAL LANDSCAPE AS IT EXISTS TODAY IS RATHER UNKEPT SO WE HAVE A LOT OF INNOVATIVE NEED TO BE REMOVED AND WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE INTRODUCTION OF SPECIES THAT IS FOR THE HABITAT THAT WE WANT IN CARMEL.

THE PROPOSED ENTRANCES TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW. WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF WE WERE TO MOVE THE ENTRANCES SO IT WOULD NATURALLY CREATE A CUT THROUGH AROUND THE PROPOSED REZONING. WE WANT TO REDUCE THE OVERALL NUMBER OF BUILDINGS PROPOSED ON THE SITE WHICH IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ATTAIN. WANT TO CREATE DEDICATED AREAS FOR TRAILS AND WITH THE PRESERVED SPACES. WE ARE PROUD OF THE PARTNERSHIP THAT CONTINUES TO EVOLVE BUT SHE IS DOING THIS. RELOCATING AND REDUCING THE NUMBER OF STORIES? PROPOSED LODGE TO DELIVER A LOW-IMPACT DESIGN OPTION.

THIS IS ABOUT THE CONSERVATION PRESERVE ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT PORK CHOP IF YOU WILL, THAT ALLOWS US TO OPEN UP SPACE TO MOVE THE LODGING CLOSER TO THE ENERGY EXPERIENCE AND THINK ABOUT A NEW CONSERVATION PRESERVE. WILL

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IN OVERHAUL ENHANCES ECOSYSTEM THAT EXISTS. WE ANTICIPATE THAT THIS IS A ROUNDED MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT IN THIS PROPERTY AND 3.3 MILES OF RIVER WILL BE BENEFITED FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. WHEN I CONSIDER THIS I WANT TO READ FOR YOU A NARRATIVE THAT WAS SHARED WITH US. I LOOKED AT THE CITY OF CARMEL THE PARTNERSHIP FORTOMORROW AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THE PARKS ND RECREATION AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THE CONSERVATION CAMPUS. I WAS REMINDED OF THESE TWO TREES THAT EXIST ON RIVER ROAD.

WE HAD A NATURE SHARE WITH US AT A TRIBUTE THAT HE WROTE ON HIS WATER DAUGHTERS WEDDING DAY. IF YOU DON'T MIND THEM TO TAKE JUST A MINUTE TO READ IT TO YOU. AS YOU HEAD SOUTH HUNDRED AND 46 STREET ON RIVER ROAD AND COME AROUND THE CURVE ON THE DISTANCE YOU SEE A BEAUTIFUL TREE.

AS YOU GET CLOSER YOU REALIZE THAT IT IS NOT ONE TREE BUT TWO TREES THAT HAVE GROWN SIDE-BY-SIDE TO FORM THE APPEARANCE OF ONE TREE. THE SYMOLISM OF THIS AS IT RELATES TO MARRIAGE IS VERY POWERFUL. I'M SURE AS THESE TWO TREES ARE GROWING SIDE-BY-SIDE THEY FOUGHT OVER SPACE. THEIR BRANCHES STRETCH OUT BUMPING INTO EACH OTHER, RUBBING EACH OTHER THE WRONG WAY AND THE YOUNG MARKETS DAMAGED WHEN THE WIND BLOWS INTO EACH OTHER. IN ORDER GROW THEY HAVE TO SHARE THE SOIL, THE SOIL, THE SUN AND THE RAIN. THERE BRUCE BARTLETT HEAL.

THEY CONTINUE TO GROW UNTIL THEY APPEAR AS ONE. NOW THAT THEY ARE GROUNDED THE UNITED CANOPY PROVIDES SHELTER TO THE CREATURES THAT PASS UNDERNEATH IT.

TO CONTINUE TO STEER THE SOIL, THE SUN AND THE RAIN AND I'M SURE THEY CONTINUE TO RUB EACH OTHER THE WRONG WAY AT THE PARK IS THICKER NOW. THEY BOTH HAD TO GROW INDIVIDUALLY IN ORDER GROW TOGETHER. ONE CANNOT MAKE THE OTHER TALLER, STRONGER OR BETTER. HEY BOTH HAVE TO GROW IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO APPEAR AS ONE. THEY ARE SEPARATE TREES YET NOW BUT ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER WOULD NOT BE THE SAME. WE ARE ENCOURAGED BY THE SUPPORT HE RECEIVED FROM THE CITY AND THE COMMITTEE THAT WE TALK TO ABOUT THIS PROJECT. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORK WITH THE COUNCIL OVER THE COMING DECADES OF THE TRANSFORMATIONAL PARTNERSHIP THAT WILL ENHANCE THE WAY THE PUBLIC EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS THE NATURAL SURROUNDINGS OF THE LAND BY PROVIDING A FIRST-CLASS EXPERIENCE IN THE CITY THAT WE KNOW TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN IMPROVING THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE. AT THIS TIME WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

I WILL HAVE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ANSWER A FEW OF THEM ALONGSIDE ME BUT THAT'S THE

EXTENT OF OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT. >> I'M GOING TO MOVE FIRST TO COUNSEL THINK ON. THIS IS IN HER DISTRICT SO SHE WILL GET FIRST CRACK AT THE

QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION WE APPRECIATE

IT. >> I KNOW WE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS IN OUR COMMITTEE WORK BUT I WANT TO KNOW AND FROM A QUANTIFICATION STANDPOINT YOU CAN DO THIS LATER FOR THE

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THIS IS A NONPROFIT ENTITY. YOU TALK ABOUT JOBS BUT IT'S THE 3% GROWTH THANKS TO FISSURES IN THE STATE OF INDIANA. WE WILL NOT GET ADDITIONAL HOUSING BECAUSE THERE'S NONE AVAILABLE IN CARMEL. AT THE CANAL 20% INCREASE IN THE ASSESSED VALUES HAPPEN ON THIS PER SIDE OF THE PRAIRIE. ALSO AS I EXPECT TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FROM A TIMEOUT PERSPECTIVE I KNOW YOU WORKED OVER THE PROPOSAL AND I APPRECIATE THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE FOR THE BETTER. MAYBE ANSWER THIS TONIGHT BUT CAN YOU GIVE ME AN UPDATED TIMELINE? BEFORE IT WAS A TWENTY-YEAR BUILDOUT. YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CORPORATE

INVESTMENT AND EXCITEMENT. WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? >> I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THIS WILL BE 25 YEARS BUILDOUT. THERE ARE THINGS ON THE MASTER PLAN THAT OBVIOUSLY WE DO NOT HAVE FUNDING. I KNOW THE RIBS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EXTENSIVELY IN OTHER PARTS IT'S A LONG-TERM VISION PLAN AND THERE'S OTHER ASPECTS THAT WILL MOVE QUICKER.

IT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE KNOW THAT'S GAINING MOMENTUM WITH PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES

THAT ARE STARTING TO MAKE THEMSELVES KNOWN. >> WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? LET'S SAY YOU PROVE IT BY OCTOBER 25 AND SEND IT BACK

WITH THE NEXT FIVE YEARS LOOK LIKE? >> HAVE TO TAKE THAT QUESTION.

WE ANTICIPATE OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IT WILL COME TO LIFE.

WE THINK WE HAVE A GLOBAL CHALLENGE WHEN IT COMES TO FEEDING THE WORLD'S POPULATION WE WANT TO HELP ADDRESS THAT. WE ALSO ANTICIPATE BASED ON ENTRANCE FOR THE THE COMMUNITY WITH THE MASTER PLANS THAT THE EDUCATION AND ONCOLOGY CENTER WILL BE ANOTHER ASPECT THAT WILL COME ONLINE I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE THE TRAILS BETWEEN CONNER PRAIRIE COME ONLINE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THOSE OF YOU TO TALK TO PROJECTS THAT I SEE AND THEN OF

COURSE PARTNERSHIPS BEING DEVELOPED. >> THE OFFICE FITTING THAT WE TALK ABOUT WILL NOT BE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR IS THAT PART OF EDUCATION?

>> GREAT QUESTION. THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE SPACES. I CAN'T A TIMELINE ON THAT.

THAT'S RELATIVE TO PARTNERS BEING READY TO COME ON BOARD THINK ABOUT SOLUTIONS WITH A

FENCE AROUND LAND MANAGEMENT, AGRICULTURAL WATERWAYS. >> ARE YOU BUILDING A PARTICULAR PROJECT OR IS THAT PART OF THE BUILDING ON THE TIMELINE?

>> THAT WOULD BE A LAND LEASE. WE HAVE TENANTS THAT DON'T HAVE AN EXPRESSED INTEREST AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT OUR FOCUS IS ON MANY OF THOSE OTHER COMPONENTS IN THE OFFICE BUILDINGS CAN BE DEVELOPED AND DRIVEN BY DEVELOPER. WE ANTICIPATE PUTTING AN RFP FOR THAT WITHIN THE END OF THIS YEAR. HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH AND IT INTERACTS WITH AN ARCHITECT WORK ON SCHEMATIC DESIGN TO AT LEAST GET IT TO SOME LEVEL THAT WILL PROVIDE RENDERINGS OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

>> IS THAT THE ONLY PROPERTY? >> I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT EVERYTHING OTHER THAN THE ONCOLOGY CENTER WITH FOOD FARM AND ENERGY WILL BE IN A LANDLESS WITH A DEVELOPMENT PARTNER WITH HER AT THE CAF?, COFFEE SHOP OR RESTAURANT WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER

PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE AND WE ARE SEEKING OUT THOSE PARTNERSHIPS. >> AND HE DID A GREAT JOB IN OUTLINING THE ZONES. I WANT TO KNOW THE SQUARE FOOTAGE A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES DAILY FOR THOSE. I THINK YOU BREAK UP THE EMPLOYEES ON THE WEEKENDS BECAUSE THAT'S A LIFESTYLE ISSUE FOR RESIDENTS. I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN SEEING THAT. CAN YOU SPECIFY ABOUT HOW YOU WILL BEAUTIFY RIVER ROAD?

QUICK CERTIFICATIONS ON RIVER ROAD? >> ARE BUFFER IS HERE AS WELL AS THE PLAN COMMISSION PROCESS TO WORK WITH THE PARTNERS ON THE LEGACY TO OVERLOOK THE JOY THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING TO HAVE BUFFER ZONES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.

WE WOULD CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR BREAST AND OTHERS WITHIN THE CITY OF CARMEL TO EXCEED OR AT LEAST PROVIDE THE AREAS OF PROPER PLANTING AND GROUPS ACCORDINGLY SO THAT THEY IMPACT

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AND THAT ACTUALLY THE PARKING LOT THAT SERVICE THESE BUILDINGS WILL BE BUILT WITH BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE WHICH IS OFTEN REFERRED TO AS STORM WATER AND ALSO ADD

BEAUTIFICATION AND IT WON'T BE TRADITIONAL PARKING. >> PREVIOUS PAVEMENT.

>>. >> THAT SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE LOOK AT AND I CAN SEND OUT A LIST THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CAMPUS WHICH IS REALLY EMBRACING SUSTAINABILITY AS A WHOLE AND TRYING TO LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES FOR DEVELOPMENT SO THAT WE CAN USE THIS AS A

SHOWCASE FOR DEVELOPMENT GOING FORWARD. >> WE WANT TO SEE A COMMUNITY WITH THE ROAD AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING IT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THOSE VERY DETAILED OUT SO THAT I CAN SEE WITHOUT LOOKS

LIKE. >> IT SAYS REVITALIZE WHITE RIVER.

THERE'S WORK TO MAKE SURE THE STORM WATER IS CLEAR, BETTER IS ANYTHING ELSE GOING ON THERE?

>> IS A STRONG PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES THAT WE'VE BEEN ENGAGING WITH BEING THE FIRST LANDOWNER TO PROVIDE AN ANNUAL FEE TO CREATE WETLAND BEINGS AS WELL AS RIVER RESTORATION PROJECTS ON OUR PROPERTY. SO AS ABOUT MANHATTAN'S THE PROVISOS ON THE PERSON TO THE STATES FOR THIS RESTORATION. WE ARE ACTUALLY PROVIDING ACREAGE ON THE FISHER SIDE OF OUR PROPERTIES AND IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NRA'S OTHERS THAT THEY STATED THAT THIS IS SUCCESSFULLY REALLY WANT TO EXPLORE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ON THE CARMEL SITE AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED LONG FOOD FARM AND ENERGY AS WELL AS LOOKING AT THE AQUACULTURE. AS WE LOOK AT THE FARM AND HOW

WE CREATE BEST PRACTICES FOR MANAGING IRRIGATION AS WELL. >> ANY PARTNERSHIP NORTH OF THIS PROJECT? THIS IS PART OF A BIGGER PROJECT WITH THE VISION PLAN.

>> WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THE PARTNERSHIPS WE HAVE HAD BOTH LOOKING SOUTH AS WELL AS NORTH. WE HAVE EXECUTED PARTNERSHIPS IN THE CENTER FOR LAKES AND STREAMS. THINKING ABOUT BEST PRACTICES AS WE EXTEND FROM OUR PROPERTY.

ADDITIONAL WATERSHEDS IT'S IN THE 50 MILE STUDY OF THE PLAN. WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR US TO CREATE THESE BEST PRACTICES FOR PLACES TO PUT INTO PLACE AND TO THINK ABOUT LAND MANAGEMENT NORTH. WE HAD A GREAT PARTNERSHIP INVOLVING WITH BRIAN: THE OUTFITTER. THINKING ABOUT WHAT HE'S BEEN ABLE TO DO AND WHAT HE CAN LEAD IN TERMS OF BEST PRACTICES FOR INPUTS AND OUTPUTS. I CAN BE REALLY DAMAGING TO OUR SHORELINE. WE ANTICIPATE NOT ONLY OUR PRACTICES BUT THAT ARE PARTNERSHIPS WITHIN THE NORTH WILL AFFECT THE WATER QUALITY IN HAMILTON COUNTY AND ONE OF THE MAIN ESSEX ITSELF IS US. WE KNOW THAT THE DRINKING WATER IS AFFECTED BY THE 3.3 MILES

THAT COME RIGHT THROUGH THE PROPERTY. >> LOOKING AT THIS NATIONWIDE

WILL BE HELPFUL AS WELL. >> I KNOW YOU'RE LIMITED BY PARKING BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS. DOES THAT MEAN PARKING AT THE TIME PARKING FOR THE DAY? HOURS AND TYPE SOME COMMITTEE PUT SOME PRETTY BIG CONTROLS AROUND THIS.

>> THERE ARE SECTIONS IN THE TD THAT DEFINE THE SPECIAL LUNCH.

AFTER 6:00 P.M. THEIR STANDARD WITH NOTHING HAPPENING BETWEEN 10:00 P.M. AND 7:00 A.M..

THERE'S AN EXCEPTION TO THAT IN THE ORDNANCE AND IT'S PROVEN TO CREATE THE NEED FOR 50 PARKING SPACES. AS WAS THE CASE EARLIER WITH BOY SCOUTS.

IF THERE'S A BOY SCOUT TROOP THAT WILL DO AN OVERNIGHT THERE THEY WILL NOT BE PRECLUDED FROM DOING THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE RESTRICTIONS WITH REGARD TO A SPECIAL EVENT.

THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE AND WE ARE GLAD TO TAKE THAT INTO PADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION.

>> I SAW THAT SECTION AND I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY PER YEAR. IT MIGHT BE AN AGRICULTURE ISSUE. WE WILL DIVE DEEPER INTO THOSE DETAILS.

>> UP AND GET SOME IDEAS OF WHAT THAT NUMBER IS IN REGARD TO NUMBERS THEY WILL BE ABLE TO

SET THAT UP. >> THE FEWER, THE SMALLER THE QUIETER THE BETTER.

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>> ONE OF THEIR EXPECTATIONS DO YOU HAVE ANNUALLY? >> ON AN ANNUAL BASIS RIGHT NOW WE WILL COME BOUT 350,000 PEOPLE TO THE MUSEUM. THIS CAMPUS WE HOPE WILL EVENTUALLY BE CONNECTED TO OUR PRIMARY HISTORIC CAMPUS IN CARMEL.

IT WILL BE SIMILAR NUMBERS TO THAT BACK AND FORTH BUT THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE WILL REMAIN.

>> WE ANTICIPATE 350 THAT MIGHT ALSO COME ACROSS. >> MAY NOT DRIVE.

YOU WILL HAVE A BRIDGE RIGHT AWAY FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. THEY WILL COME OVER WE HAVE A

SHUTTLE? >> SNOW SHOVELS AT THIS POINT. >> HIM TO COME BACK AND

UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC. >> I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING ON A REVISED TRAFFIC DOCUMENT.

IF YOU CAN SEND IT IN ADVANCE OF THE COMMITTEE MEETING THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.

I'M ALSO HOPING YOU CAN COMMIT TO SOME EXTRA PATROLS FOR TRASH PICKUP.

I DON'T WANT OUR RESIDENTS AND CITY STREETS TO HEAR THAT COST. IF WE COULD DO THAT.

LET'S GET TO THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST AND THAT IS THE OFFICE BUILDING.

THIS IS A NONSTARTER FOR ME. IT REMAINS A NONSTARTER FOR ME. I MODIFIED IT TO SAY ONE STORY ALONG THE IT'S WAY TOO BIG. IT'S WAY TOO TALL I DON'T LIKE THE MASKING.

ALSO THREE WEEKS 300 EMPLOYEES THERE EVERY DAY. THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.

I AM A KNOW IF THAT STAYS AS IT IS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT MOVED FURTHER NORTH. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT MOVED SMALLER OR ELIMINATED.

>> WE SPOKE AT THE COMMISSION LAST OCTOBER THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL AREA WE WANT TO KEEP IT IN A SPECIAL PLACE. HAVING A MASSIVE OFFICE BUILDING THERE IS NOT SPECIAL.

I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO HELP FUND THIS INCREDIBLE PROPERTY THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DEVELOP.

THIS DOES NOT FIT. IT IS A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE WITH THIS PROJECT.

CALL ALEC A COMMITMENT THAT KNOWING THE OTHER BUILDINGS COULD B ADDED TO THIS.

AFTER I GET THE NORMAL PROCESS WE CAN HAVE A SAYING WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THE SIGNAGE AND LIGHTING BECAUSE AGAIN MOST RESIDENTS MOVE THE EASTSIDE FOR A VERY QUIET AREA AND THIS TOTALLY BRINGS THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO MIDTOWN ON EAST CARMEL. I LIKE TO HAVE FINAL APPROVAL ON THE.

IDEALLY I WOULD LIKE THE PARK ALSO BE EVENTS OF THIS APPROVAL.

HOW THAT BUILDING SHARING MIGHT LOOK LIKE. >> EVEN IF THEIR SPECIFIC SECOND BE HAMMERED OUT WITH UNDERSTANDING AT SOME POINT TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE INTENT ON HOW WE PARTNER. I THINK IT'S CONFUSING ON HOW WE WORK TOGETHER.

I LIKE A LITTLE MORE CLARITY ON THE. I THINK THAT'S IT YOU THINK

YOU. >> CONFLICT.HE AUTHOR QUESTIONS?

>> COUNSELOR GREEN. >> SOME GREAT QUESTIONS THERE. WALKING AROUND.

WE DON'T NEED TO REPEAT THAT. REALLY INTERESTING ANSWERS AND THE COMMUNITIES IN THE 220

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ACRES WITH 85%. >> IS LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON THE PRESENTATION.

WE HAD DISCUSSIONS BUT THEN AS YOU KIND OF LAID THE NUMBER OF ITEMS OUT AND COUNSELOR WAS ASKING QUESTIONS A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTIES AT DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR SYNERGY THAT LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW MORE. THROUGHOUT THE DNR PARKS OBVIOUSLY WITH USHER BEING THE COUNTY. I LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE PLAN AND HOW IT'S GOING TO FIT AND

BUILD THOSE SYNERGIES. THANK YOU. >> COUNSELOR FRANK UNCOVERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAD BUT I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET A GOOD TRAFFIC STUDY IN PLACE BEFORE THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING. I DON'T WANT TO SET A COMMITTEE MEETING DATE UNTIL WE ARE SURE THAT WE WILL HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY.

EVEN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION THAT IS GOING THAT AREA WAS A NIGHTMARE TRAFFIC WISE AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW DIFFERENT EVENTS WILL AFFECT TRAFFIC IN PTHE AREA, DIFFERENT TIMES.

I KNOW CONSTRUCTION WILL INCLUDE BUT WE WILL STILL HAVE A LOT OF GOING AREA SO THAT IS A BIG CONCERN. AND THEN ALSO IT WAS REFERENCED NATIONAL STUDY SHOWED A 20% INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES. I LOOK THROUGH THE PACKAGE I DIDN'T SEE THE LIST THAT IS THAT IS. CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE THOSE. I LIKE TO SEE THEM BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE MEETING SO SOON AS YOU CAN GET THOSE TO ME. >> AT THE AMERICAN AIRLINES MUSEUM STUDIES BUT WE WILL PICK UP PROVIDED. WE TOOK THE LOWER OF THE TWO

NUMBERS OBVIOUSLY. >> PLEASE SEND IT TO ME AND I'LL GET TO THE COUNCIL.

>> IN REGARD TO TRAFFIC A FULL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS COMPLETED AND PROVIDED TO DOCS AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE UPDATE WOULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE REDUCTION THAT IS MADE FROM INTENSITIES USE WITH REGARD TO LOSS OFFICE SPACE THERE IS ONE ON FILE AND WE CAN FORWARD IT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS TO THE COMMITTEE

MEMBERS AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY FOR THE COMMITTEE AND I WILL. I WANED TO CLARIFY, USE OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS DONE. IS THAT THE END PRODUCT? I THOUGHT I HEARD QUESTIONS BEING ASKED ABOUT THE BRIDGE NOT BEEN COMPLETED AND THE TRAFFIC UNTIL THE BRIDGE IS

COMPLETED. >> A PART OF THE MASTER PLAN IS A BRIDGE THAT WOULD COME BACK TO PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC BACK AND FORTH. UNTIL THAT IS BOTH THE QUESTION WAS HOW IT FROM CAMPUS TO CAMPUS. WE RECOGNIZE THAT THEY WOULD EITHER DRIVE IF THERE IS POINT IN TIME WE THOUGHT THERE WAS A BETTER WAY TO HANDLE THAT FOR BEST PRACTICES AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REVIEW THE AND SEE IF THERE'S A BETTER SOLUTION.

WE ARE LIMITED BY THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES THAT WE HAVE IN THE PLAN AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THIS IS THE OTHER ONE THAT HAVE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS AND I WOULD LOVE A PARTNER ON THAT BUT I'VE NOT SEEN MANY PEOPLE HOPE OF SUPPORT THAT PROJECT.

>> JUST WONDERING ON THE BRIDGE. THE SEVERE PEDESTRIAN MARRIAGE.

THIS IS THE FURTHEST ALONG THE PROJECT BUT EVEN IF IT WERE THERE THE DISTANCE IT WOULD TAKE TO GO FROM CONNOR. CENTRIST ON THE SIDE TO THE ENERGY EXPERIENCE EVEN WITH A

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GOLF CART. >> THIS IS CONTRIBUTED TO WHETHER THERE IS A CONNECTION BETWEEN EAST AND WEST CAMPUS. THE FULL IMPACT WITHOUT CROSS REDUCTION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

>> MY POINT IS EVEN WITH THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE A BUNCH OF CARS ON THE ROAD BECAUSE THEY ARE SUDDENLY TAKING A 30 MINUTE WALK.

>> WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT IT WOULD BE A WAY FOR US TO FERRY PEOPLE FROM ONE CAMPUS SO THEY COME OVER TO FISHERS AND EXPLORE THE ENERGY EXPERIENCE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT BASED COULD HAVE ACROSS THE STATE. WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT IN THE FUTURE IF THAT BRIDGE COMES INTO PLAY THOUGH THAT WOULD BE THE TYPE OF VEHICLE THAT WILL

UTILIZING. >> DOES NOT MAKE THE POINT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE THAT NON-COMMITTEE MEMBERS WILL BE ATTENDING THE COMMITTEE SINCE WE MAKE SURE ANYTHING IS SENT BY ANYONE'S AROUND GET SENT TO THE MEMBERS NOT JUST COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF KEY POINTS I WANT TO MAKE.

FIRST I WANT TO REITERATE MY FOCUS WILL BE ON THE OFFICE BUILDING.

I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT TO USE COUNTERFEIT GOODS WERE SQUARE PICKING AROUND A WHOLE.

THIS IS AN ENTERTAINMENT TYPE OF THING YOU IN THE OFFICE BUILDING TO ME IS JUST AN EXTRA THING TO MAKE MONEY THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY VALUE FOR NEIGHBORS.

I WILL BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT. WHEN IT WAS SUGGESTED THERE

COULD BE 300 EMPLOYEES THERE THAT IS A NUMBER. >> AS THE BUILDING EVOLVES YOU

COME BACK WITH A MORE DETAILED NUMBERS BEFORE THAT. >> APPRECIATE THAT IT BRINGS ME TO MY SECOND POINT. AND ASK CORPORATE COUNSEL PLEASE COME FORWARD BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS.

>> CAN YOU FILL US IN ON THIS PUD WITH THIS ORDINANCE AND HOW MUCH CAN WE RELY ON? SHOULD THIS PRESSURE GO FORWARD IN WHATEVER FORM IT TAKES HOW MUCH CAN WE RELY ON THAT THIS

WILL BE IRONCLAD 10 TO 15 YEARS FROM NOW QUESTIONS. >> IT IS BINDING.

THE COMMITMENTS THAT ARE PLACED WOULD BE BINDING UPON THE. >> MY POINT IN BRINGING THIS UP AS WE HAVE TO BE VERY SPECIFIC. I THINK EACH OF US WOULD BE ON THE COUNCIL FOR A WHILE. I NEED COUNSEL FROM HERE OUT ANY GOOD NOTES AND I NEED TO BE ABLE TO AT SOME POINT I DON'T MAKE ANY ASSUMPTIONS THAT SHOULD THIS GO FORWARD TO WHATEVER WE ARE VOTING ON WOULD BE THE RIGHT WAY TO SAY. IT'S CLEAR AND IRON TYPE.

>> THE LAST THING MAYBE I MISSED IT. IS THERE A DISCUSSION ABOUT A

FREE KAYAK CAN YOU LAUNCH? >> IS PART OF A FREE LUNCH WE BEEN TALKING OVER WITH CARAMEL CLAY PRODUCTS THAT HAVE A CONFLICT. WE HAVE PARTNERS THAT WOULD WANT TO DO EXCURSION WITH SOME KIND OF PAIN BUT THEN THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN SPEAKING WITH PARKS AND THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME SHARED OPPORTUNITIES FOR KAYAK RENTALS WHICH ARE THE

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TO MAKE THIS A COLLABORATION. >> I KNOW MISTER CLIFF SINGING AND THINKING THAT THE PARKS ACTORS THINKING THAT WAY SO AS YOU WANT TO EXPLORE THAT AND MAYBE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS.

>> THOSE ARE MY ISSUES. WAS THERE ANY FURTHER CLARIFICATION BEFORE A PUBLIC HEARING? BEFORE I DO SO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A CARD TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. FEEL FREE TO LINE UP OVER HERE AT THE SPEAKER'S PODIUM.

I'M GOING TO DECLARE THE PUBLIC MOMENT HEARING OPEN AT 7:01 PM. THOSE WISHING TO PLEASE COME FORWARD. SAME RULES WILL APPLY AS FAR AS THREE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. THE COUNTY TOURISM SERVES AS THE STEWARDS OF THE WHITE RIVER VISION PLAN MENTIONED EARLIER. THIS PLAN TOOK TWO YEARS TO DEVELOP AND INCLUDES 13,000 VOICES. WE ARE ESPECIALLY ADVOCATES OF THE THREE PILLARS OF THE PLAN. THERE ARE NINE TIDINGS PRINCIPLES THAT FALL.

THEY ARE EQUITY. PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE RIVERS AND BECAUSE OF THIS WE CAN GET PEOPLE TO THE THEY CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THE CENTRAL INDIANA.

THIS PROJECT DEFINITELY WILL DO THAT AND WILL INFORM AND INSPIRE PEOPLE.

THIS RIVERS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE AND THE PROPOSAL INNOVATION THROUGH THE CONSERVATION CAMPUS AND THE MINIMAL FOOTPRINT. BESIDES HIS APPROPRIATE USE ACCORDING TO THE PLAN. IN ADDITION THE WORKER TAKES PLACE THERE WILL BE REALLY IMPORTANT WORK FOR US JUST LOOK TO THE FUTURE. FINALLY REINTRODUCING 40 ACRES OF WETLANDS PROVIDE HUGE IMPACTS TO THE RIVER MUCH IMPROVED WITH CURRENT CONDITIONS WHEN FACED WITH WATER SHORTAGES. THE MUSEUM AND TONY ARE TWO OF THE LARGEST AND WHAT THEY DO IS REALLY IMPORTANT THIS BRANCH IS THE SECOND LARGEST IN THE GULF OF MEXICO. IN SHORT WE BELIEVE WATER IN THE CORNER.

HAS ADDRESSED CONCERNS, RESEARCH THE ISSUES, TREATING THE RIVER AND SURROUNDING LAND WITH GREAT CARE AND WILL IMPACT THE LOCAL ONCOLOGY WITH VISIONARY PLANS.

IT WILL ABIDE BY THE RECOMMENDATIONS PROVIDED IN THE WHITE RIVER PLAN.

THIS WILL MAKE IT AN ASSET TO BE ENJOYED FOR THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE YEARS TO

COME. THANK YOU. >> NEXT SPEAKER.

GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS STEVE VE BALDWIN. I AM A RESIDENT OF LEGACY OVERLOOK WHICH IS MOST AFFECTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT. I MOVED TO CARMEL WITH MY FAMILY IN 1957. I BELIEVE THIS GIVES ME SOME INPUT ON MY SURROUNDINGS.

I AM NOT AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT. I DO HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION. I HAVE BEEN TO MANY OF THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

WHERE IS ASSIGNED PUD BY THE PLAN COMMISSION? HAS IT BEEN DONE? IS IT ASSIGNED? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I LIKE TO ADDRESS THE NEXT PARTIAL AT 15%. I BELIEVE IT'S MISLEADING. I LIVE THERE.

I KNOW THAT THEY ARE SAYING THAT BUT IT'S ONLY DEVELOPED ABOUT THE FINAL PLAN WITH DENSITY. THE SUBJECTION TO THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS THIS TRUE STORY OFFICE BUILDING. WE LIVE IN THE LAST ISRAEL AREA.

WE LIKE IT TO THE GIRL. LEGACY OVERLOOK IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ACTUALLY OWN THE LAND. THE THEATER TO US. THE 14 ACRES IN THE LOW LAND AREA ARE DEEDED TO US YOU CAN'T SAY THAT THERE IS A BARRIER BETWEEN US AND CONNER PRAIRIE.

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WITH THE RATES SO HIGH IT'S A BAD BUSINESS IDEA. LASTLY ON THAT SUBJECT I IMPLORE THE CARMEL CITY MANAGEMENT. THEY PUSH THAT THREE-STORY OFFICE BUILDING NORTH OR CANCEL IT ALTOGETHER. DON'T LIMIT BE A GOOD PLACE ON THE NORTH END NEXT TO EXISTING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE AT 146 STREET AND RIVER ROAD.

LET'S TALK ABOUT LANDSCAPING. THIS IS A CONCERN FOR US AND LEGACY OVERLOOK.

OUR PROPERTY IS HIGH. , HIGHER THAN THE LAND ACROSS RIVER ROAD SO WE SEE

EVERYTHING. WE WANT BARRIERS. >> AND YOU ARE BEING

CONSIDERED ON THE TIME. NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. >> HELLO PAUL DALE I AM A RESIDENT AT LEGACY OVERLOOK. A LOT OF IDEAS ARE E COVERED BUT I WANT TO HAVE A FEW HIGHLIGHTS. THERE ARE NEARLY 60 LETTERS WRITTEN TO THE COUNCIL.

I DON'T MANY OF THEM ARE FULLY SUPPORTIVE. I THINK A BIG PART OF THAT IS THE OFFICE BUILDING BEING SO GH AND ITS LOCATION. I DO WANT TO THINK CONNER PPRAIRIE THEY'VE TAKEN A LOT OF THE COMMENTS TO HEART AND MADE A LOT OF CHANGES.

I THINK IT MAKES IT BENEFICIAL TO EVERYONE. THERE'S A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I'VE LISTED SUBDIVIDING. AND IT IS A SECTION IN THE PD. RIGHT NOW AS IT'S WRITTEN THEY CAN SUBDIVIDE WITH NO PUBLIC HEARING OR APPROVAL. I THINK THAT'S OF CONCERN TO ME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS BUT I GUESS THAT'S MAYBE WHY IS CONCERNING. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THE WINDMILLS.

I SAW THE LAST REVISION BASED ON SOME CALCULATIONS ON THAT TURBINE HIGH WITH WAVELENGTHS.

IT COULD BE UP TO 25 FEET TALL. THAT'S A PRETTY TALL STRUCTURE. >> EVENING NEWS AND GENTLEMEN MY NAME IS TIM HORTON AND I'M A RESIDENT OF THE OVERLOOK AT THE LEGACY.

I PROVIDED EACH OF YOU WITH AN EMAIL THAT OUTLINE MY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT AS A RESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO HIT A FEW HIGHLIGHTS THIS EVENING.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL HAVE THE POWER TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS MOST DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THIS PROJECT. IN THE COMMENT ABOUT SPECIFICITY IS CRITICAL HERE. THE PROPOSED PUD DOES NOT PROTECT US AS A BUFFER IN THE .4 MILE STRETCH BETWEEN CHERRY CREEK BOULEVARD'S ROUNDABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY DRIVE ROUNDABOUT.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY PROPOSE THAT THIS AND I APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS TO COMPROMISE WITH US ON THIS. WHAT WE SEE IN PROPOSED PUD AT THIS POINT ARE SOME PLANTINGS ON THE CHERRY CREEK BOULEVARD ROUNDABOUT ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.

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I'M NOT SURE THE CAMERAS. MICHELLE REPORTED THIS MORNING THAT THIS PROPERTY AT 5:00.

THERE'S A PHOTO I TOOK FROM MY DECK THIS MORNING THAT'S WHAT WE SEE.

THERE IS A PHOTO THAT IS AN ELEMENT FROM THE LIVING ROOM. THIS IS APPROXIMATELY WHERE THE PROPOSED OFFICE BUILDING WOULD BE. DON'T LIST THE DISTANCE FOOL YOU. IT'S MUCH CLOSER THAN IT APPEARS IN THE PHOTOGRAPH.

WE NEED A BUFFER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. THE COMMENT WAS MADE OF THE COMMISSION MEETING THAT THEY WANT DRIVERS ALONG THE ROAD TO SEE THIS PROJECT.

DRIVERS ALONG RIVER ROAD SEE THIS PROJECT WE LOOK AT IT 24/7. THAT'S WHY WE NEED YOUR PROTECTION SO THAT WE ARE INSULATED FROM THIS PROJECT. WE MOVED HERE BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PHOTOGRAPH AND NOT ANTICIPATING THIS DEVELOPMENT.

I WISH I HAD MORE TIME BUT I THINK THAT IT'S THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT WE NEED IN THE WAY OF A

BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROJECT AND THE OVERLOOK OF THE LEGACY. >> THANK YOU, NEXT SPEAKER.

>> GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS MATT ROMO I'M A 30 YEAR CRIMINAL RESIDENT AND HAVE BEEN IN THE WATER RESOURCES INDUSTRY FOR JUST AS LONG. I'VE LOOKED OVER THE PLAN.

I DON'T GET INVOLVED IF THE GOVERNMENT IS MUCH AS I SHOULD. EVERYTHING VISIT AND I STOPPED PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL ON PUBLIC TIME TO MAKE EVERYTHING WORK. IT IS ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND AND SUSTAINABLE.

THE RENDERING- LOOK BEAUTIFUL. THIS PROPERTY IS THE DEVELOPMENT THIS IS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S RESPONSIBLE, BENEFIT CARMEL IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE. THAT'S REALLY EVERYTHING I HAVE

TO SAY I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT. >> MY NAME IS RUSS JONES.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK AND ALSO KIND OF GO BACK AND REMIND YOU THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF WHEN THE FIRST MEETINGS WHERE YOU HAD SAID THIS IS A DIFFERENT UNIQUE REQUEST UNLIKE ANY OTHERS THAT WE'VE HAD. WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND CONNER. LISTENING TO US. VOICING HIS CONCERNS.

WE STILL HAVE A CONCERN ON BUFFERING AND I THINK THAT'S THE ONE THING ALONG WITH THE OFFICE. THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITEMENT THERE BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK OUT WHAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT EVERY DAY AS WELL.

>> EVENING.MY NAME IS MIKE HANNIGAN. MY WIFE AND I ARE RESIDENTS OF CARMEL FOR THE LAST 42 YEARS. AND THAT 42 YEARS WE'VE GONE FROM THE COMMUNITY WITH ONE DOLLAR THEATERS, HARDWARE STORES AND VERY FEW DINING OPTIONS.

TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE LAST 40 YEARS IN MANY WAYS FROM THE INPUT OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY IT'S BEEN A REAL PLEASURE TRIP. THERE'S AN OLD SAYING YOU CAN'T FIGHT CITY HALL. IS ANOTHER ONE THAT SAYS THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS.

I'M REALLY HEARTENED BY WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT AND THE QUESTIONS BEING PUT FOR.

FIRST THING WE DID MATERIALIZE TO VISITORS FROM ROM OLD HOMETOWN TO SEE CONNER PRAIRIE.

OUR RESIDENTIAL AREA, WE ARE ONLY 32 HOUSES BUT THE COUNCIL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY

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FOLLOWS THAT WEIRDOS. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING.ND CHRISTINE ALTMAN. I'M A HAMILTON COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND THE TOWNSHIP RESIDENT. I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING ON THE BOARD FOR AS CLOSE AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN OVER THE YEARS. I SAT IN HIS CHAIR AS WE DEVELOPED THIS PLAN WITH IMMEDIATE PAST CHAIR AS WE REFINE THE PLAN.

I'VE BEEN EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING CONNER PRAIRIE OVER TO MY SIDE OF THE RIVER. WE GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MY GRANDDAUGHTER AND NO DAUGHTER IS NINE YEARS OLD TO ENJOY THE PLEASURES OF NATURE AND WHAT WE DO WE ENDORSE THIS PLAN.

WE WILL CARRY THE BRUNT OF THE TRAFFIC ON HUNDRED AND 46 STREET BUT WE'RE PREPARED FOR IT. AS MANY WILL NOT BE NAMED NUMBER ONE EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT PEOPLE HAVE BOLD VISION AND THEY GO FORWARD ITH IN A VERY SUSTAINABLE NABLE MANNER.

THIS OFFERS OPPORTUNITY FOR CARMEL PRAIRIE TO BE SUSTAINABLE I THINK THE OFFICE BUILDING THIS QUESTION WILL HAVE A STAFF THEY WILL ALSO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE BUSINESS. WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR JUST GENERAL PUBLIC TO FILL THAT OFFICE WE WANT THE SCIENTISTS, WE WANT THE BUSINESSES THAT ALIGN WITH OUR MISSION.

IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THE THING THAT WE DO WITHOUT HAVING TO PICK YOUR POCKET FOR CONTRIBUTIONS IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR

CONSIDERATION. >> NEXT WEEK OR. >> MY NAME IS KAREN ARLEN FOR MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED WITH HER YOUNG DAUGHTER 20 YEARS AGO. WE MOVED TO CARMEL FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF INDIANAPOLIS BECAUSE WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES, THE CITY OF AND WE WERE ERE GOING TO AFFORD D IT. WE'RE ALSO DEVOTED FANS OF CONNER PRAIRIE AND SPENT NUMEROUS HOURS OVER THERE EXPLORING, VISITING, ATTENDING CONCERTS, ATTENDING THE HEADLESS HORSEMAN. MY DAUGHTER IS NOW 29 YEARS OLD. SHE IS THE MOTHER OF A SEVEN MONTH OLD.

SHE'S EIGHT MONTHS OLD TODAY. I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES ARE GOING TO BE AFFORDED BY THIS NEW CONSERVATION CAMPUS. THE TRAILS, THE OPPORTUNITIES TO TEACH THE YOUNG GRANDCHILDREN THAT YOUR FOOD DOESN'T GROW IN THE GROCERY STORE. UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THE MAJORITY OF AMERICAN CHILDREN, THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK GROCERY COMES FROM.HE OPPORTUNITY TO TRULY UNDERSTAND THAT THE WHITE RIVER IS A RESOURCE. NOT A SEWER. I VISITED MANY COMMUNITIES IN MY LIFETIME WHERE THERE IS AN ASSET. TOURIST ATTRACTION, A RESOURCE OPPORTUNITY AS I THINK THE CITY OF CARMEL SERVES THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY.

>> NEXT SPEAKER. >> JACK RUSSELL. SERVICE PRESIDENT OF ONE'S OWN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WHICH SERVES THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF CARMEL.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE BUSINESS ISSUES COMMITTEE. THIS IS MADE UP OF BUSINESS LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY. OUR MISSION IS A COMMUNITY AND AS ONE'S OWN CHAMBER HELPS BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITIES THRIVE.E BELIEVE THAT THE CONNER.

PROJECT WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE OUR COMMUNITY FORWARD. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT IS

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HIS ABILITY TO CONNECT US FURTHER TO ONE OF THE GREATEST RESOURCES THE WHITE RIVER, THE ABILITY TO CONNECT YOUNG AND YOUNG AT HEART. EDUCATE INDIVIDUALS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND CONNECT INDIVIDUALS FURTHER WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY.

JUST LIKE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS THAT THE YEARS WE APPRECIATE THE WORK OF COMMISSIONS ASKING QUESTIONS AND TAKING THE TIME. WE BELIEVE THAT THE SAUDI WILL DO THE SAME APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT. FINALLY WE APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND TAKE THEIR TIME TO PUT TOGETHER THE PROJECT.

WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO FOR YEARS TO COME.

>> LOOKS LIKE OUR LAST SPEAKER. >> I'M REGGIE HENDERSON.

A RESIDENT OF CARMEL AND CHRISTINE ALTMAN IS THE CHAIR OF CONNER PRAIRIE.

SHE LED US THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK OUT WITH REGARDS TO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CHRISTINE SIDE WHICH WAS CARMEL MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE OF MANY GRAYSON BOLD DECISIONS. I'M NOT ORIGINALLY FROM INDIANA.

IT WAS HERE FOR 23 YEARS. JUST LIKE ANY OTHER. MY CHILD HAS GROWN UP WITH CONNOR. BEING PART OF HIS ENVIRONMENT AND PART OF HIS HOME.

WITHOUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS OF RIGHT NOW IS THE FACT THAT CONNER PRAIRIE IS LOOKING AT AN EVOLUTION. THE RESOLUTION BEYOND JUST THE OLD STORY OF THE 1800S BUT ALSO THE EVOLUTION GOING INTO THE FUTURE.

AS KAREN HAD SHARED WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CAMPUS WERE TRYING TO DEVELOP ON THE LEFT SIDE TELLS THE STORY AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE WITH REGARD TO EITHER SUSTAINABILITY, CONSERVATION. HAVE BEEN AMAZED AT THE AMOUNT OF COMMITMENT WITH REGARD TO PROTECTING AND NOT DESTROYING THE LAND. AND THAT THE LANDSCAPE MAY CHANGE. LANDSCAPES TO CHANGE. THIS IS THE EVOLUTION OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. WITHOUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED AS I WITH THE TEAM AND ALSO THE STAFF IS THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH THE COMMUNITY. THE AMOUNT OF CONCESSIONS. THE AMOUNT OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY HAVE ALLOWED TO BE A PARTNER AND TO LISTEN TO THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY AND TO MAKE SURE THAT AS A PARTNER THIS PLAN IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ACTUALLY AN EVOLUTION SOMETHING THAT WILL GROW AND GET BACK AND TAKE AWAY FROM IT. WITH THAT ON BEHALF OF THE COMPANY THAT I WORK FOR WE ENDORSE AND SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

WE HOPE THAT THERE IS A COMPROMISE HERE WITH REGARD TO WHERE WE WANT TO GO FORWARD IN THE FUTURE BUT IT WOULD BE ASHAMED TO HAVE SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE FOR THE COMMUNITY BE IN JEOPARDY AND TO NOT GIVE IT A FAIR SHAKE AND IT'S VERY DUE.

>> THANK YOU. I SEE ONE MORE SPEAKER. >> MY NAME IS MIKE CLOUD.

OOKING CARMEL FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS AND I ALSO LIVE IN OVER THE AT LEGACY.

I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE I SURE MOST OF THEM WHEN IT COMES TO THE TRAFFIC. I SUPPORT THE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT COME WITH US AND CONSERVATION OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL. I THINK A CERTIFICATE CONCERNING WITH THE HOTEL. ONE CONCERN HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BEFORE BUT NOT HERE TONIGHT IS SUPPOSED ACTIVITY OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO THIS PROJECT.

I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE ALOT OF EFFORT TO PROTECT THOSE KIDS FROM ANY POTENTIAL DANGERS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OR PEOPLE THAT COME INTO THERE. AND THE OPTICS OF HAVING THE HOTEL VERY CLOSE TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE.

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CONVERSATION. >> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS FOR OREGON? SEEING NONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:26 PM.

DOES THE PETITIONER HAVE A RESPONSE TO ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP?

>> WE DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENT THAT AN OFFER TONI. THERE WERE MANY WERE MANY QUESTIONS. THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE ADDRESSING THE BUFFERING ALONG THE ROAD. I WILL SHARE THIS WITH HIM TO

OFFER ADDITIONAL INPUT TO THE COUNCIL. >> DEMEANOR.

IF YOU SHARE WITH HIM. >> IT IS IN THE ORDINANCE. >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE HE

WAS AWARE OF IT AND IF YOU WANT TO HE CAN LET YOU KNOW THAT. >> JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE INFORMATION TO WE ARE NOT HAVING ANYTHING AT THIS POINT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT

YOU ARE IN THE PUBLIC'S AWARE. >> ABILITY YOUR WEBSITE ANOTHER SYSTEM FOR YOU IT'S FOR THEM BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT THAT'S FINE. IF YOU GO TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE YOU CAN OBTAIN A FULL COPY OF THE SUBMITTAL THAT WAS MADE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDED THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION WHICH IS AVAILABLE YOU WOULD FIND THAT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

THE ONE THING I DID WANT TO MENTION AS A FEW WEEKS AGO WE MET WITH THE GROUP OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS ON SITE. IT WAS A LIGHTNING THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THOSE WHO TOOK US UP ON IT WENT TO THE SITE AND GOT A FEEL FOR THE CONTEXT OF THE SITE. THIS IS OVER 265 ACRES. GETTING ON THE PROPERTY GOING ACROSS THE SITE AND REDUCE SPELLINGS OF ELECTED TO HAVE A CLEAR SHOT.

HERE IS MY SURROUNDING. I THINK IT REALLY IS BENEFICIAL TO THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROJECT TO ALLOW THE TO MAKE A BETTER INFORMED DECISION. WE WOULD OFFER TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS THEY WANTED TO VISIT THE SITE WE CAN TAKE THEM ACROSS THE PROPERTY AND IDENTIFY WERE SOME OF THE BUILDINGS ARE. IF THE TOP OF THE OFFICIAL DPS TO THE FOUR CORNERS OF EVERY BUILDING PROPOSAL ON THE SITE TO CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF WHAT THE PERSPECTIVES ARE LOOKING ACROSS THE PROPERTY AND THAT RIVER ROAD.

WE WILL MAKE AS MANY VISITS AS YOU FIND THAT IS APPROPRIATE. >> A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS FROM YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT TO COUNCIL AND LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY I ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE UP THE SUGGESTION TO LOOK AT IT FROM HIS DESK.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS OVERLOOKING THE FOLKS OVER HERE TONIGHT.

I'VE HAD SEVEN UTILITIES REACH OUT TO ME SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS CONCERN ACROSS MUCH SUPPORT BUT ALSO CONCERN FOR THE CHILI'S AROUND TRAFFIC.

DO YOU THINK THIS IS A TREMENDOUS PROJECT? WANT TO GET US TO YES ACROSS THE BOARD.

I WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE A UNANIMOUS YES BUT THAT'S NOT US TO GET THERE.

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I'M JUST ASKING TO GET CREATIVE AND LISTEN BECAUSE THIS IS A STOPPER AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY NO TO THIS PROJECT. I WANT YOU TO BRING US A WAY THAT WE COULD SAY YES.

THAT'S MY CHALLENGE TO YOU. >> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE THING.

AND HE TALKED ABOUT THE HOTEL OR ECO-LARGE WITH THE DISTANCE TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THAT WAS A BIG THING THAT YOUR HAND OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

>> IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AFTER YOU HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH CRIMINAL

ENGINEERING. >> JUST AS MAY BE A SUMMARY THE NEXT STEP IS THE COMMITTEE PROCESS. THAT IS WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOME BACK-AND-FORTH AND WE CAN GET INTO THE DETAILS AND YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH DIFFERENT COUNSELORS ON DIFFERENT CONCERNS FOR DIFFERENT ISSUES. MICHAEL AND I WOULD THE GROUP OF PETITIONERS. MICRO GOAL IS TO ASK QUESTIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE ISSUES ARE. WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS AND THAT WE GET TO A PLACE THAT IS AS CONCILIATORY AS POSSIBLE. KNOWN AS GOING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK. NO OFFENSE ON EITHER SIDE WHEN WE ASK THESE HARD QUESTIONS OR CHALLENGE A STATEMENT THAT IS TAKING THIS BACK.

I JUST WANTED TO STAY BACK. COUNSELOR CAMPBELL IS THE CHAIR OF THE LAND-USE COMMITTEE.E DON'T HAVE A STATE YET AND I KNOW WE ARE AT LEAST 2 TO 3 WEEKS OUT BUT WE HAVE TO RETURN THIS BACK TO FULL COUNCIL BY OCTOBER 25TH. THERE IS A CLOCK TICKING AND WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT. RE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL? THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE.

WILL MOVE ON NOW TO NEW BUSINESS. WE HAVE NONE.

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CAMPBELL. >> MISTER PRESIDENT AND MOVE THAT WE OPEN THE NOMINATIONS.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> I NOMINATE JEN PROBES THE VICE PRESIDENT AND GENERAL MANAGER IS AT THE COMMERCIAL DIVISION.

>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? X SECOND AND I MOVE THAT WE

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CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS. >>. >> WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENTT, A

PERSON TO BE APPOINTED AS ERNIE DISCUSSION? >> DO WE DO VOICE VOTE??

PLEASE VOTE. >> SAID THAT PERSON ISVOTED UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU VERY Y MUCH. THANK YOU COUNSELOR CAMPBELL FOR THE WORK YOU DO ON THAT COMMITTEE AS WELL.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.