Sep 18, 2023 City Council Meeting 09-18-2023

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>>> WELCOME EVERYONE. I WANT TO OFFICIALLY CALL THIS MEETING OF THE COMMON COUNCIL FOR CARMEL, INDIANA TO ORDER ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, WE'RE SHORT

[2. AGENDA APPROVAL]

COULD I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF OUR AGENDA?

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

[3. INVOCATION]

>> AM I ON? >> YOU'RE ON NOW.

>> LET ME TRY THAT AGAIN. GOOD EVENING.

>> GOOD EVENING. >> IT'S THE SAME AT CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY MORNING TOO. PLEASE PRAY WITH ME.

GOD OF ALL CREATION, WE STAND IN AWE BEFORE YOU.

INSPIRED BY VISIONS OF THE HARMONY OF HUMANITY.

WE ARE CHILDREN OF MANY TRADITIONS, INHERITORS OF SHARED WISDOMS AND TRAGIC MISUNDERSTANDINGS.

NOW IT'S TIME FOR US TO MEET, DISCUSS, AND PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY. OPEN OUR EARS TO TRULY HEAR ONE ANOTHER. OPEN OUR MINDS TO DISCUSS AND REASON WITH ONE ANOTHER. OPEN OUR HEARTS TO DO OUR VERY BEST TO UNDERSTAND ONE ANOTHER. MAY OUR COURAGE MATCH OUR CONVICTIONS AND OUR INTEGRITY MATCH OUR HOPES.

MAY EVERY VOICE BE HEARD AS WE STRIVE TO MAKE CARMEL A PLACE WHERE EVERY PERSON FEELS SAFE AND VALUED.

MAY OUR TIME TOGETHER THIS EVENING BE INSPIRED AND INSPIRING. THESE THINGS WE ASK IN YOUR HOLY

[4. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

NAME, AMEN. >> THANK YOU, PASTOR.

IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> VERY NICE.

THANK YOU. DO I HAVE ANY SCOUTS IN THE ROOM TRYING TO GET THEIR MERIT BADGE? IF YOU ARE IN THE ROOM, OKAY.

[5. RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS]

>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

EXCITED TO SAY WE HAD THREE NEW OFFICERS START TODAY AND THEY'RE HERE TO BE OFFICIALLY SWORN IN BY THE COUNCIL.

THE FIRST OFFICER IS NATALIE FIEST.

SHE COMES TO US FROM THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT WHERE SHE HAD THREE YEARS EXPERIENCE AND SHE'S ALSO A GRADUATE OF BUTLER UNIVERSITY. ALSO WE HAVE ANGELICA FOLEY ALSO FROM THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SHE'S BEEN WITH MINNEAPOLIS FOR EIGHT YEARS AND HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM IUPY. AND THIRDLY WE HAVE MERRICK HOLLINGER FROM THE KOKOMO POLICE DEPARTMENT WHERE HE WORKED FOR FOUR YEARS AND HE HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM BALL STATE. WE'RE EXCITED FOR THESE ADDITIONS, THIS LEAVES US THREE SHORT OF FULL STAFFING.

AND WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE THEM THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE A GREAT ADDITION TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THEY BRING A LOT OF GREAT EXPERIENCE.

>>> I SOLEMNLY SWEAR I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF INDIANA. THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY AND IMPARTIALLY DISCHARGE MY DUTIES AS A POLICE OFFICER OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA.

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>>> AND NOW CARRYING ON OUR THEME WITH THE CARMEL POLICE DEPARTMENT, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BRING YOU SOME ADDITIONAL GOOD NEWS, COULD I PLEASE HAVE LIEUTENANT ADAM MILLER COME FORWARD AND GET THIS SHOW ON THE ROAD.

>> GOOD EVENING. I'M HAPPY TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT THE SCHOOL RESOURCE UNIT AS WELL AS ONE OF OUR CCS SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS. THIS SUMMER THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION OF SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS, NOSRO WAS PRESENTED HERE SO IT'S NICE TO HAVE THIS AWARD IN OUR HOMETOWN.

THE THREE AWARDS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS THE MODEL AGENCY AWARD WHICH THIS UNIT RECEIVED. JUST A FEW YEARS AGO WE ONLY HAD SEVEN SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS IN OUR SCHOOL UNIT, TODAY WE HAVE 21 DUE TO A REFERENDUM THAT WAS PASSED JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. WE HAVE A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER IN EVERY SCHOOL WITH FOUR AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN THREE SUPERVISORS OVER THAT UNIT.

THE MODEL AGENCY AWARD, WE HAVE A TRIAD CONCEPT THROUGH NOSRO ON LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, MENTOR, AND GUEST LECTURER.

SO THAT AWARD WAS HONORED ON US FOR THE WAY WE EXEMPLIFY THAT TRIAD CONCEPT OF THE PROFESSIONALISM AND THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS UNIT WITH THE COMMUNITY, OUR SCHOOLS, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE SECOND AWARD, OFFICER JUAN ARATE HAS DISTINGUISHED HIMSELF. THE SCHOOL HE WORKS AT HAS AN INFLUX OF A LOT OF NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING FAMILIES OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. AND HE'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN BRIDGING THAT GAP BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE SCHOOL. GETTING THOSE FAMILIES SOME OF THE HELP THEY NEEDED THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WAS AVAILABLE TO HIM. HAD HE NOT BEEN THERE SOME OF THESE FAMILIES WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THE HELP THEY NEEDED FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THE LAST AWARD IS THE SCHOOL SAFETY OFFICER OF THE YEAR AWARD.

HE'S THE DIRECTOR OF SERVICES. HE'S DISTINGUISHED HIMSELF ACROSS THE STATE FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS WORKING WITH THE INDIANA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE HERE THE LAST FOUR YEARS TO HAVE HIM WITH CARMEL SCHOOLS.

HIS LEADERSHIP AND SCHOOL SAFETY THAT HE'S GLEANED FROM BEING STATEWIDE, WORKING WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT REALLY I CAN HONESTLY SAY THE COLLABORATION IS SECOND TO NONE.

WE WOULD NOT BE NEAR AS EFFECTIVE.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THESE AWARDS HAD WE NOT HAD THIS SUPPORT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY, AS WELL AS THE SCHOOLS. SO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I PRESENT TO YOU OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE UNIT.

>> COUNCIL, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY KNOW THAT THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE SRO UNIT IN THE SCHOOLS, THIS IS A VERY BIG DEAL, BUT THEY DON'T SEEK THE PUBLIC LIMELIGHT. THEY DON'T SEEK THE GRATITUDE AND PUBLIC ADULATION, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO THEM TODAY.

SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD AND I HAVE A CERTIFICATE TO GIVE TO YOU AS I READ YOUR NAME.

AND IF YOU'D LINE UP HERE IN FRONT, THE COUNCIL WILL WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE OF YOU. WE'RE GOING TO RUN THROUGH THESE FAIRLY QUICKLY. SO DAVID WOODWARD.

AND VICE PRESIDENT CAMPBELL WILL ACTUALLY AWARD YOU WITH A SEAL PIN FROM THE CITY OF CARMEL AS YOU WALK BY THERE.

LIEUTENANT ADAM MILLER. SERGEANT JOHN GOVAN.

SERGEANT TROY SMITH. MASTER POLICE OFFICER MATTHEW

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MASTER POLICE OFFICER CHRISTIAN RODRIGUEZ.

MASTER POLICE OFFICER ASHLEY WILLIAMS. OFFICER ASHLEY COMMODOR. OFFICER DAVID COMMODOR.

OFFICER VICTORIA GARCIA. OFFICER JASON GILMORE.

OFFICER MOLLY GREGORY. OFFICER MATT HARRIS.

OFFICER HUNTER ROGOWSKI. OFFICER DUSTIN VAN TREATH.

OFFICER GREG ZIMMERMAN. WE NOW ASK EVERYONE TO WARMLY, WARMLY SHOW YOUR APPRECIATION TO THESE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE US SO VALIANTLY.

DID WE GET A GOOD PICTURE? IS EVERYBODY HAPPY? ALL RIGHT, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO

[6. RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL]

OUR FIRST AND ONLY BLUE CARD IS JEFF GOINS ABOUT BROOKSHIRE CELL

TOWER PROJECT. >> GREAT, THANK YOU.

>> HANG ON, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE HAVE PROPER ATTENTION.

ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, JEFF.

>> A TOUGH AND AWESOME ACT TO FOLLOW.

DEAR COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF BROOKS MANOR AND SEVERAL SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF A LARGE CELL TOWER ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BROOKSHIRE GOLF COURSE. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE NEXT FEW MINUTES TO HEAR OUR CONCERNS SINCE TIME SEEMS TO BE ON THE ESSENCE. THE PROJECT WAS FIRST PROPOSED OVER A DECADE AGO BEFORE THE CITY OWNED THE GOLF COURSE.

IT DID NOT PROCEED AFTER RESIDENTS BACK THEN OPPOSED THE PLANS. UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS REOPENED LAST YEAR AT OUR BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS AS THE CITY NOW OWNS THE LAND. AFTER PURSUING DOCUMENT REQUESTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE WERE FINALLY ABLE TO OBTAIN SOME

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AND WE ONCE AGAIN UNANIMOUSLY OPPOSE THIS STRUCTURE ON THE FOLLOWING GROUNDS; FIRST, AND HUMAN HEALTH CONCERNS ASIDE, WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE AESTHETIC, ENVIRONMENTAL, HISTORIC, OR OTHER IMPACTS HAVE BEEN ADEQUATELY ASSESSED BY LAST YEAR'S PROCESSES. SECOND, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION HAS BEEN SUFFICIENTLY TRANSPARENT FOR SUCH A HUGE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AS NEIGHBORS HAVE NOT BEEN BROADLY NOTIFIED NOR HAD A CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO THEIR PROPERTY VALUES.

THIRD, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY WOULD PURSUE THIS TOWER ESPECIALLY WHEN OUR OWN GOLF COURSE MANAGERS HAVE VOICED THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT. RECENTLY NOT JUST IN OUR NECK OF THE WOODS BUT WITH HAMILTON COUNTY UNANIMOUSLY DENYING A TOWER ALONG WITH FUTURE INSTALLATIONS ON THEIR PARKS AND RECREATION LAND AFTER CARMEL RESIDENTS OBJECTED OVER THERE.

AND JUST LAST WEEK THE CARMEL SCHOOL BOARD DECLINED TO LEASE A TOWER ON ITS LAND BEFORE THEY GOT QUOTE A BIT OF FEEDBACK THAT THEY ADOPT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

THE LAST FEW WEEKS CELL COVERAGE IN OUR AREA HAVE INCREASED WITHOUT THESE TOWERS. ONE PROVIDER UPGRADED THE EXISTING TOWER TO PROVIDE BETTER COVERAGE WHILE OTHERS HAVE INSTALLED ON LIGHT POSTS WHICH SEEM TO HAVE ADDRESSED CERTAIN COVERAGE GAPS. IN SUMMARY, WE DO NOT WANT NOR NEED A MASSIVE, PERMANENT, EXPENSIVE 17 STORY STRUCTURE ERECTED IN OUR AREA. WE KINDLY IMPLORE THOSE OF YOU ON COUNCIL TO REQUEST THAT OUR BPW, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND OTHER INTERESTING PARTIES TABLE THIS PROJECT.

WE ARE HAPPY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE HAVE UPON YOUR REQUEST AND WE ALSO APPRECIATE THAT SEVERAL OF YOU AGREE WITH US AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS

MATTER. >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANKS FOR COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

[7. COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS]

>> THANK YOU. >> NEXT WE HAVE COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMMENTS AND OBSERVATIONS.

COUNCILOR HANNON. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.

AN UPDATE ON THE CARMEL CLIMATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE A GROUP OF OVER ACHIEVERS THAT WEREN'T SET TO MEET AGAIN UNTIL OCTOBER THAT ARE MEETING THIS WEEK AGAIN.

REALLY DIGGING IN WITH BOTH FEET TO START PRIORITIZING THE LIST THAT WE WANT TO START AS EARLY AS 2024.

THE OTHER THING OF NOTE THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT MORE ON I THINK THURSDAY AT THE BUDGET MEETING ONE OF OUR FIRST RECOMMENDATIONS TO COME OUT OF THIS IS TO PROCURE A CLIMATE SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATOR, ESSENTIALLY THE MASTER CYLINDER WITHIN THE CITY TO HELP DRIVE THESE PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY ACROSS DEPARTMENTS AND WITHIN INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS.

COUNCILOR AND I SAT DOWN TODAY WITH DIRECTOR WHO AGREED WITH THIS POSITION. YOU WILL SEE THAT ADDENDA COMING THROUGH ON THURSDAY. HAPPY TO TALK WITH ANYONE ONE ON ONE MORE DETAIL ABOUT HOW I THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY ON THURSDAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS

[8. CONSENT AGENDA]

ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 21, 2023, AUGUST 31, 2023, ALSO CLAIMS, PAYROLL IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,460,696.12.

GENERAL CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,479,132.86.

RETIREMENT $107,695.97. AND WIRE TRANSFERS IN THE AMOUNT

OF $1,962,732.73. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> AND A SECOND? ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? PLEASE VOTE. OKAY, THAT CARRIES.

[10. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

LAND USE AND SPECIAL STUDIES, COUNCILOR CAMPBELL.

>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE ARE MEETING NEXT TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26TH AT 5:30 HERE TO FURTHER DISCUSS THE PROPOSAL Z683-23 AND WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS AS TO WHETHER IT WOULD ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT. AND WHILE WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING I THINK FOR THIS PROJECT, I WILL ALLOW COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC IF THEY HAVE NOT SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY AT THE PUBLIC

HEARING. >> OKAY, THANK YOU, COUNCILOR

[11. OTHER REPORTS]

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>>> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

I'LL QUICKLY RUN THROUGH THE ACTIVITIES OF THE PREVIOUS MONTH IN THE CITY OF CARMEL WITH RESPECT TO REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. PLENTY OF STUFF HAPPENING IN CITY CENTER WITH THE WREN AND THE WINDSOR CONTINUING TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE HAD AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

EVERY YEAR THE CITY OF INDIANAPOLIS HOSTS AN AWARD CEREMONY FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN THE CENTRAL INDIANA REGION CALLED THE MONUMENTAL AWARDS, THE INDY CHAMBER PUTS THEM ON. AND WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF FINALISTS THIS YEAR. SO THE PERSINEUM IS ONE OF THE FINALISTS FOR REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.

THIS WILL BE A THEME THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION.

REMEMBER PROSCENIUM IS THE ONE THAT NOW HAS THE LATEST TAVERN ON THE GREEN DEAL MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH RIGHT NOW.

HOPEFULLY IT WILL START CONSTUCTION FALL OF -- WELL SOON TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR NEXT YEAR.

THE LODGE -- MELANGE IS CONTINUING ON.

OCTOBER IS WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR THE FINAL UNITS TO BE BUILT.

1ST ON MAIN CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES.

WE HOPE THAT IT WILL BE OPEN ALSO AROUND OCTOBER/NOVEMBER.

MAGNOLIA IS NOW UNDERWAY WITH THEIR NEXT BUILDING, THE NEXT FEW BUILDINGS WILL CONTINUE TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN 2024 AND 2025.

THE MUSE IN CARMEL, THESE PICTURES ARE OUTDATED YOU CAN NOW SEE THE FULL FACADE ON THE MAIN BUILDING AND AN ART PIECE THAT'S GOING ON THE GARAGE AT ITS SOUTHEAST EDGE.

DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR IS THE ESTIMATED COMPLETION PERIOD FOR THE MUSE. SIGNATURE CONSTRUCTION IS FULL STEAM AHEAD WITH RETAIL AND TENANT BUILD OUTS ONGOING THROUGH SPRING OF 2024. MONUMENTAL AWARD ALERT, THE MURAL HERE, THE COSMIC FLOW MURAL THAT WAS PART OF THE CIVIC SQUARE GARAGE LOOKS LIKE IT HAS THE MOST LIKES ON FACEBOOK WHICH MEANS IT'S GOING TO GET A PEOPLE'S CHOICE AWARD.

WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

HAMILTON CROSSING ALSO A MONUMENTAL AWARD FINALIST THIS YEAR FOR CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS THE NEW REPUBLIC HEADQUARTERS, TRAINING CENTER WITH MILLION DOLLAR FLIGHT SIMULATORS. THEY'RE PRETTY GREAT.

THIS CONSTRUCTION IS GOING, THE GARAGE IS ALMOST DONE.

NEXT YEAR WE SHALL SEE THE START OF THE HEADQUARTERS BUILDING AND THE MULTIFAMILY WRAP AROUND THE GARAGE.

THIS IS AN OUTDATED PICTURE. I THINK AS OF TODAY THERE ARE UP TO THREE LEVELS ON THE PROSCENIUM II.

WE EXPECT CONSTRUCTION HERE TO BE FINALIZED THROUGH AUGUST 2024. HOPING FOR SOME FUN RETAIL ANNOUNCEMENTS AT THIS CORNER. THE LOWER PROJECT ALSO KNOWN AS THE FUTURE HOME OF THE 1933 LOUNGE AND A BUNCH OF CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS ABOVE IT IS ALSO UNDER CONSTRUCTION IF YOU'VE BEEN BY THAT SITE, THE SITE WORK IS CURRENTLY ONGOING.

WE EXPECT SEPTEMBER OF 2024 TO BE FINAL COMPLETION ON THAT PROJECT. JUMPING BACK TO ICON ON MAIN IS ALSO WELL UNDERWAY WITH SITE WORK.

THEY HAVE ALL OF THEIR ADLS APPROVALS.

SO THEY'LL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION UNTIL SUMMER 2026.

MONON SQUARE ACTUALLY HAS RECEIVED ITS APPROVALS AND IS MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH ADLS NOW. HOPEFULLY IT WILL START CONSTRUCTION AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.

THE AT&T SITE REDEVELOPMENT HAS RECEIVED ITS APPROVALS BOTH FOR THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING THERE AT THE TOP RIGHT AND THE EXPANSION OF THE BANK HEADQUARTERS THERE AT THE BOTTOM LEFT. YOU CAN SEE THE TWO BUILDINGS SIDE BY SIDE AT THE RENDERING ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT.

$130,000 INVESTMENT INTO OUR MIDTOWN AREA AT A TIME WHERE THERE IS NOT A LOT OF OFFICES TAKING UP SUCH LARGE SPACE.

WE HAVE AN 80,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE HEADQUARTERS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION ALONG WITH OTHER THINGS IN THIS CITY.

IT'S A REALLY EXCITING TIME. REALLY SPEAKS TO HOW WELL WHAT

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TOWNSHIP PROJECT THE CRC IS CONTRIBUTING TO.

THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY IS NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THE CRC HELPED ARRANGE THE MOVE OF THE DEPOT AND WILL MOVE IT BACK. THE CRC ALSO HAS UNDER CONTRACT SOME EXHIBIT DESIGN FOR THE INTERIOR OF THIS BUILDING.

SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR FRIENDS AT THE TOWNSHIP AND WITH OUR FRIENDS AT THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY TO MAKE THIS A WONDERFUL PROJECT. THE MARMON WASP AS SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT A WHOLE BUNCH OF AWESOME INDIANA CARS INCLUDING SOME OF THE AUBURN WERE ROLLING AROUND CARMEL EARLIER THIS MONTH. THEY CHOSE CARMEL BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO DRIVE BY ALL OF THESE 96 STREET ROUNDABOUTS.

THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY MARMON IS A FINALIST FOR THE MONUMENTAL AWARD FOR PUBLIC ART. I'M GOING TO STEAL DIRECTOR CLIFF'S -- FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE ANOTHER MONUMENTAL FINALIST AWARD HERE -- WERE YOU GOING TO BRING THIS UP, SORRY -- MY CHILD LOVES THAT SPECIFIC SET. SO CITY OF CARMEL IS IN ALL OF THESE CATEGORIES. WE'RE CLEANING UP THE AWARDS IN EARLY OCTOBER. SO WE'LL SEE HOW MANY OF THESE WE CAN WIN. FINALLY LET'S HIGHLIGHT SOME OTHER NEW THINGS HAPPENING IN THE CITY.

PALLADISCOPE LAUNCHED EARLIER THIS MONTH.

OH WAIT, WE'RE IN SEPTEMBER. PALLADISCOPE LAUNCHED IN AUGUST.

I HOPE EVERYONE ATTENDED IT. IT WAS A BIG SUCCESS.

WE'VE HAD A TON OF FEEDBACK. CERTAINLY THE NEWS HAS NOTICED SO HAVE THE INFLUENCERS. WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE NEXT SET OF SHOWS. IT PLAYS EVERY NIGHT 9:00, 9:30, 10:00, 10:30, AND 11:00. AND AS IT GETS COLDER AND DARKER, THEY'LL ALSO START PLAYING AT 8:30.

NIGHTFALL IS THE OFFICIAL START TIME WHENEVER NIGHTFALL MAY BE.

WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY

HAVE. >> ALL RIGHT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MESTETSKY? COUNCILOR AUSTIN.

>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A COMPLIMENT, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN STAY ON IT. WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH SOME CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS AND TRASH AT THE SITE BEFORE IT WAS BUILT.

I WANTED TO THANK YOU. I KNOW I CONTACTED YOU ABOUT THAT AND YOU GOT IT CLEANED UP VERY QUICKLY.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR QUICK RESPONSE.

I WOULD HOPE AS WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE SITES THAT ARE CITY OWNED AND CONSTRUCTION HASN'T STARTED YET THAT WE JUST STAY VIGILANT ON MAKING SURE THAT WE KIND OF KEEP CARMEL BEAUTIFUL ON THAT. BUT I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR

YOUR RESPONSE THERE. >> I'D LIKE TO PASS ON 100% OF THOSE KUDOS TO OUR WONDERFUL STREET DEPARTMENT.

>> COUNCILOR CAMPBELL. >> THANK YOU.

HENRY, UNDER THE AT&T SITE YOU LISTED SCHOOL REFERENDUM DOLLARS OF $143,000 I BELIEVE. I'M TRYING TO SCROLL THROUGH AND MY INTERNET IS SLOW. IS THAT THE PROJECTED TAXES THAT

WILL COME FROM THAT PROJECT? >> YES, ONCE THE PROJECT IS BUILT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS BECAUSE OF THIS PROJECT THE SCHOOLS WILL

RECEIVE $143,000 ANNUALLY. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE EFFECT OF RAISING THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THIS PROPERTY FROM $300,000 AN ACRE TO $15 MILLION AN ACRE. IT'S A HUGE WINDFALL FOR OUR

SCHOOLS. >> ALL RIGHT.

HENRY, I'VE RECEIVED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE HOURS WILL BE FOR PALLADISCOPE ONCE WINTER HAPPENS.

AND I GUESS AFTER SOME CONVERSATION WITH SOME FOLKS WHO LIVE OVER THERE, WOULD THE POWERS THAT BE THAT MAKE THOSE DECISIONS, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SHORTEN THE HOURS? SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO START EARLIER, DOES IT REALLY HAVE TO RUN UNTIL 11:00? CAN YOU MAKE THAT END EARLIER? I THINK IN THE WINTER, THE NEIGHBORS WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I CAN'T IMAGINE PEOPLE STANDING OUT THERE -- I COULD BE

WRONG, BUT IF YOU WOULD JUST -- >> THERE'S ALREADY CONVERSATIONS GOING ON ABOUT ONCE WE MOVE IT BACK TO 8:30 THEN WE WOULD MOVE

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>> OR 10:00? >> WELL ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, WE KNOW RESTAURANTS CLOSE AT 10:00 AND SO IF SOMEONE IS PLANNING TO GET DINNER AND CATCH A SHOW AFTERWARDS, THAT WAS PART OF THE PLAN FOR COMING TO CARMEL DOWNTOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE, I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS.

>> OKAY. I APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING IT.

THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMITTEE REPORTS EVEN THOUGH I SEE OUR PARKS DIRECTOR OUT THERE. ALL RIGHT, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON

[12. OLD BUSINESS]

[14. NEW BUSINESS]

WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO 14A NEW BUSINESS, FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D-2676-23, AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA AUTHORIZING AND PROVING AN APPROPRIATION OF GRANT FUNDS FROM THE OPERATING BALANCE AND THE GENERAL FUND TO THE 2023 PARKS DEPARTMENT BUDGET. SPONSOR IS COUNCILOR RIDER, HE IS NOT HERE. BUT COULD I HAVE A MOTION TO

INTRODUCE. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> COULD YOU READ THE SYNOPSIS,

PLEASE? >> THIS ORDINANCE APPROPRIATES $1,759.34 IN GRANT FUNDS RECEIVED FROM THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY FROM THE GENERAL FUND 101 INTO THE 2023 PARKS DEPARTMENT BUDGET LINE ITEM 4239000 MISCELLANEOUS

SUPPLIES. >> EXCELLENT, WELL DONE.

YOU WILL GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN THIS TO COUNCIL, THANKS.

>> THANK YOU. DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. THIS AGENDA ITEM AS WELL AS THE IMMEDIATE NEXT ONE ARE ACTUALLY IMMEDIATELY CONNECTED.

CARMEL PARKS AND RECREATION RECEIVED SOME GRANT FUNDS FROM FEMA RELATED TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE ACTUALLY APPROPRIATES MONEY THAT THE NEXT RESOLUTION WILL TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL FUND RELATED TO THOSE EXPENSES SO WE CAN REIMBURSE AND USE THOSE FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THE NEXT RESOLUTION WILL ACTUALLY TRANSFER THE FUNDS FROM THE GIFT FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND COVERING THIS ADDITIONAL. A TOTAL FEMA GRANT RECEIVED WAS SLIGHTLY SHY OF $1,700. THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE APPROPRIATES $1,759.34 AS YOU PREVIOUSLY STATED SO THAT WE CAN SPEND IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS.

>> VERY GOOD. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I WOULD ACCEPT A MOTION TO SUSPEND -- YES?

>> MR. PRESIDENT, MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND ACT ON

THIS THIS EVENING. >> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT SUSPENDING THE RULES? PLEASE VOTE.

THAT MOTION CARRIES. I NOW TAKE A MOTION --

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

THAT MOTION CARRIES AS WELL. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO RESOLUTION CC-09-18-23-01, A RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA, APPROVING A TRANSFER OF FUNDS FROM THE GRANT FUND 900 INTO THE GENERAL FUND 101 THE NONREVERTING PARKS AND RECREATION EXTENDED SCHOOL ENRICHMENT FUND 108 AND THE NON-REVERTING PARKS AND RECREATION MONON CENTER 109.

SPONSOR IS COUNCILOR RIDER. COULD I HAVE A MOTION TO

INTRODUCE? >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE SYNOPSIS, PLEASE.

>> TRANSFERS $16,951.78 TO THE GRANT FUND 900 INTO THE GENERAL FUND 101, THE NON-REVERTING PARKS AND RECREATION EXTENDED SCHOOL ENRICHMENT FUND 108 AND THE NON-REVERTING PARKS AND RECREATION MONON CENTER OPERATING FUND 109 SO THAT GRANT FUNDS RECEIVED FROM THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY CAN REIMBURSE CARMEL CLAY PARKS AND RECREATION.

>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COULD I HAVE A MOTION?

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> ALL RIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION?

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE, DIRECTOR.

NOW WE MOVE ON TO ITEM C, RESOLUTION CC-09-18-23-02, A RSOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA, APPROVING AN INCREASE OF THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE FOR THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS EXPANSION AND COURT ADDITION PROJECT.

SPONSOR COUNCILOR WORRELL. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO INTRODUCE?

>> MOVE TO INTRODUCE. >> ALL RIGHT, COUNCILOR HANNON, WOULD YOU READ THE SYNOPSIS FOR ME, PLEASE?

>> I'D BE HAPPY TO. APPROVES A $60,000 INCREASE TO THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE OF THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS EXPANSION AND COURT ADDITION PROJECT FOR A FLOOR PLAN REDESIGN AND BUILDOUT THAT WAS REQUESTED BY CPD.

>> SO HERE TO REPORT ON THAT IS MR. CRYDER AND CHIEF BARLOW.

PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

JIM CRYDER, DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATION FOR THE CITY.

SOME OF YOU, I'M SURE ALL OF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN MARCH OF 2022 WHEN YOU APPROVED THE RESOLUTION THAT INCLUDED THE TERMS OF THE RESOLUTION WITH ENVOY AS WELL AS PART OF THE BOND AGREEMENT.

IT WAS IN THE RESOLUTION, IT WAS FOR $25,388,670.

SO WE ARE AT THE END OF THAT PROJECT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, CLOSE TO IT ANYWAY. AT LEAST SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER PEOPLE WILL MOVE IN. IT'S GONE VERY WELL, WE'RE SCHEDULED TO COME IN UNDER BUDGET OR AT THE BUDGET, BUT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT I'LL LET CHIEF BARLOW EXPLAIN TO KIND OF FUTURE PROOF THE BUILDING WITH THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM AND MOVING THEM TO A DIFFERENT SPOT WHICH I WILL EXPLAIN. ONE THING I DO WANT TO EMPHASIS THOUGH IS IF YOU DO DECIDE TO APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL $60,000 THAT IS COMING FROM BOND MONEY. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL TAXPAYER MONEY INVOLVED. THIS IS OTHER BOND MONEY THAT WAS OTHERWISE UNCOMMITTED AT THIS POINT.

SO THE DATA CENTER THAT WAS UNDER THIS ORIGINAL BOND IS COMPLETE. THE IT MOVE, THE ADDITION TO THE TOWNSHIP BUILDING AND THE REMODELING OF THAT SPACE, THAT'S COMPLETE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW LANDSCAPING THINGS.

AND SO THIS IS THE LAST THING. AND AGAIN IF YOU APPROVE IT, IT WILL BE PAID FOR WITH BOND MONEY THAT WAS OTHERWISE UNCOMMITTED.

SO I'LL LET CHIEF BARLOW EXPLAIN THE LOGIC BEHIND THE DESIRE TO MOVE THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM TO ANOTHER SPOT.

>> EVENING AGAIN, CHIEF BARLOW, CHIEF OF POLICE.

I HAVE A SLIDE FOR YOU. ACTUALLY WHEN THE PLANNING PHASE OF THIS BUILDING WAS GOING ON, THIS WAS KIND OF A DREAM, THE CRISIS INTERVENTION UNIT. WE REALLY DIDN'T DECIDE TO PUT IT UNDER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT COULD BE ANOTHER CONVERSATION SOME DAY, BUT WHY WE WOULD PUT IT UNDER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND AT THE TIME WE STARTED WITH ONE PERSON AND THEN A SOCIAL WORKER AND A POLICE OFFICER.

AND NOW CURRENTLY WE HAVE TWO SOCIAL WORKERS AND TWO POLICE OFFICERS. A SERGEANT AND A PATROLMAN WORKING AT CAPACITY. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE KIND OF HOUSED IN FOUR DIFFERENT PLACES. ONCE THE BUILDING IS COMPLETELY BUILT OUT THE INVESTIGATIVE UNIT WILL TAKE OVER THAT SPOT.

WE PROBABLY COULD FIND PIECES TO PLAN FOR FUTURE GROWTH TO PUT THEM TOGETHE. BUT IN THE DESIGN WE INCLUDED TWO AREAS THAT WERE FUTURE GROWTH.

THIS LOCATION IS FORWARD FACING, IT'S RIGHT OFF THE LOBBY.

THEY GET A LOT OF FAMILIES COMING IN, PEOPLE COMING IN, SO THERE'S ALREADY A CONFERENCE ROOM THAT'S REAL CLOSE.

THEY CAN SIT DOWN AND TALK TO PEOPLE WITHOUT BRINGING THEM INTO THE SECURE PART OF OUR BUILDING.

IT'S REALLY IDEAL, IT'S AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR THEM TO HOUSE.

THIS SLIDE I PUT TOGETHER JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING. OUR INITIAL THOUGHTS, PLANS WERE FOR THEM TO BE RESPONDING WITH OFFICERS OR BEFORE OFFICERS.

BUT THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF FOLLOW UPS AND THREE CASES THEY PUT SOME ASSUMED NAMES IN THERE. YOU CAN SEE FRED 29 CALLS FOR SERVICE IN TWO MONTHS. THAT'S NOT USUALLY 2 OR 3 POLICE OFFICERS, USUALLY IT'S AN AMBULANCE AND AN ENGINE BECAUSE

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AND SO FAR WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY FURTHER FOLLOW UPS.

AND THE SAME WITH SALLY, I BELIEVE THAT ONE IS 48 CALLS IN FIVE MONTHS. AND THAT WAS SOMEONE THAT WAS CUTTING THEMSELVES. THERE WAS MEDICAL RUNS EVERY TIME. SO AGAIN THIS TEAM IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF FOLLOWING UP ON THOSE.

KIND OF BECAUSE WE HAVE FOUR SHIFTS AND IT'S ALMOST FOUR WORLDS DEALING WITH THESE PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

YOU'RE ABLE TO PULL THAT ALL TOGETHER AND GET THE RESOURCES THEY NEED. AND IT'S IMPORTANT.

AND ANOTHER ONE BEVERLY 26 CALLS FOR SERVICE.

THE COLLABORATION, PARTNERSHIP, THEY'RE A RESOURCE.

WE WORK OBVIOUSLY HAND IN HAND WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT RESOURCES IN THIS COUNTY AND THEY CAN PULL THOSE FOLKS TOGETHER TO HELP US OUT.

THEN WE SEE SOME OF WHAT THEY DO, A NUMBER OF CASES THAT THEY DO SOME OFFICERS, SOME OF THEM AREN'T TO THE LEVEL WE DO EVEN EMERGENCY DETENTIONS, BUT OFFICERS REFER THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THAT BORDERLINE AND THEY'RE GOING OUT AND GETTING PEOPLE HELP SO THEY DON'T BECOME THOSE TYPE OF CASES.

AGAIN IT'S BEEN A GREAT PROGRAM AND WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THAT THE COUNCIL HAS GIVEN US ON THIS.

I THINK IT'S REALLY SERVING OUR COMMUNITY WELL.

I GUESS THE LAST EXAMPLE WOULD BE RECENTLY WE HAD SOMEONE WALK INTO OUR LOBBY OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MAKE THREATS.

SO EVEN WE'RE NOT IMMUNE FROM THESE POTENTIAL THINGS.

I THINK THAT COVERS EVERYTHING THAT WAS REQUESTED AND I'LL BE

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> VERY GOOD, THANK YOU CHIEF.

APPRECIATE THE DETAIL. ARE THERE ANY -- COUNCILOR

HANNON. >> ROY, JUST A COMMENT.

I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO CHIEF BARLOW ABOUT THIS.

I THINK YOU EXPLAINED IT WELL THAT IT WAS REALLY JUST SORT OF A CONCEPT AS THE B.O.T. WAS BEING PUT TOGETHER.

I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD USE OF FUNDS.

I WOULD CERTAINLY LOVE TO HAVE HANNAH COME AND PRESENT TO COUNCIL TO GIVE US MORE IN DEPTH DETAIL ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.

AND COINCIDENTALLY I BUMPED INTO OFFICER CHEF WHO'S NOW MOVED OVER TO THIS. AND I THINK THERE'S SOME PARALLELS WHERE WE WERE AT THE FRONT END OF THE SRO PROGRAM AND LED THROUGH THAT AND CONTINUE TO LEAD THROUGH THAT.

I THINK THE CITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD THROUGH THIS CRISIS INTERVENTION AND HAVING SOCIAL WORKERS FULLY EMBEDDED AND INTEGRATED WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

SO AGAIN FULLY SUPPORTIVE, WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE TO COUNCIL FORMALLY FROM HER ABOUT WHAT'S WORKING, HOW CAN WE HELP IT WORK BETTER. SO AGAIN I APPRECIATE THAT.

THE ONLY OTHER QUICK COMMENT I WILL MAKE IS THIS WAS OUR FIRST B.O.T. AS YOU'RE AWARE. I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE COUNCILOR WHO ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS FORWARD AS A MECHANISM TO BE ON TIME, ON BUDGET, TO SPEC, TURNKEY DELIVERED AND FROM ALL I'VE HEARD FROM COLONEL CRYDER AND THE CHIEF IS THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED, HAVING THAT ACCOUNTABILITY BOTH FROM A BUDGET, FIT, FINISH, AS AGAIN TURNKEY THE TRANSFER MEANING IT HAS TO BE TURNKEY UP AND RUNNING AND I THINK THERE'S A PERIOD OF TIME AFTERWARDS THAT THEY'RE ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS WORKING.

I THINK IT'S GONE VERY, VERY WELL.

AND I HOPE WE FIND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THIS AS WELL. SO AGAIN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> HEY CHIEF. ONE QUICK QUESTION.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE WHY WHICH I SUPER SUPPORT.

THE HOW, YOU SAID AND JIM MENTIONED FUTURE PROOF IT.

IS IT JUST A DESK AND A CONFERENCE AREA, CAN YOU

ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT? >> YES, IT WILL ACTUALLY BE TWO OFFICES AND THEN SOME WORK SPACE THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE MORE THAN JUST THE FOUR PEOPLE IN THE UNIT SO THERE IS ROOM TO GROW.

WE'VE DONE THAT IN OUR INVESTIGATIONS UNITS AND OTHER PLACES SO THAT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AS WE KEEP GROWING WE HAVE THE SPACE TO PROVIDE PEOPLE. SO IT WILL BE TWO OFFICES PLUS I THINK CURRENTLY FOUR WORKSTATIONS WITH THE ABILITY TO

ADD FOUR MORE WORK SPACES TO IT. >> I WAS HOPING I WOULD HEAR YOU

SAY THAT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I WOULD TAKE A MOTION FOR

RESOLUTION CC-09. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. OKAY, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. THAT IS APPROVED.

NEXT UP WE WILL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM D WHICH IS RESOLUTION

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MOTION TO INTRODUCE, PLEASE. >> MOVE TO INTRODUCE.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY.

AND COUNCILOR CAMPBELL, WOULD YOU READ THE SYNOPSIS FOR ME,

PLEASE. >> THIS RESOLUTION APPROVES AND ADOPTS THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT'S 2023-2027 STANDARD

OF COVER. >> THANK YOU.

THE CHIEF REACHED OUT TO ME PROBABLY TWO WEEKS AGO WITH THE INTENT TO PRESENT THIS TONIGHT. I ASKED THAT HE SEND THE DOCUMENT WITH DETAILS AS TO WHAT HE WAS INTO AND THEN REACH OUT TO YOU IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS SO THAT WE COULD HANDLE THIS TONIGHT. SO EVERYBODY IS IN THE LOOP, OKAY. CHIEF, GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT

AWAY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TO PRESENT THE 2023-2027 CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT STANDARD OF COVER.

ESSENTIALLY THIS DOCUMENT TALKS ABOUT THE WAY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDS TO EMERGENCIES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT TALKS ABOUT OUR HISTORY, IT TALKS ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY RISKS.

IT DETAILS OUR RESPONSE MATRIX WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT TALKS ABOUT OUR DEMOGRAPHICS AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTION TYPES IN EACH OF 19 INDIVIDUAL PLANNING ZONES THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

OBVIOUSLY THE MERIDIAN CORRIDOR LOOKS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN A RESIDENTIAL AREA IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO WE TAKE ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WAY THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDS.

THE GOAL IS TO BE FORWARD FACING, BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND SO AS PART OF DOING THAT, THIS DOCUMENT IS THE FINAL DOCUMENT THAT WE ARE UPLOADING TO THE CENTER FOR PUBLIC SAFETY EXCELLENCE AS PART OF OUR THIRD REACCREDITATION FOR THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE ACCREDITATION PROCESS IS ESSENTIALLY ONGOING. IT'S FOR A FIVE YEAR TIME PERIOD. IN THEORY EVERY YEAR WE'RE TOUCHING THESE DOCUMENTS. AND SO THEY'RE LIVING, BREATHING, AND THEY'RE CHANGING. OBVIOUSLY THE WORLD HAS CHANGED AND WE LIVE IN A DATA-DRIVEN SOCIETY.

AND SO WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE TRACKING OUR DATASETS WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION TO BE ABLE TO PIVOT AND CHANGE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE DELIVER WORLD-CLASS SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESSES AND THOSE WHO COME TO VISIT OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO HAVING SAID THAT, HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. AND IF YOU WOULD JUST INDULGE ME AT THE END MAYBE I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE IN THE

ACCREDITATION PROCESS AS WELL. >> OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR HANNON.

>> THANK YOU. VERY EXTENSIVE, VERY MEATY DOCUMENT. CAN YOU JUST TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE REVIEW PROCESS FOR THIS BEFORE IT GETS TO US ALTHOUGH YOU ALSO SAID IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT THAT'S CONTINUALLY UPDATED. IS THERE SOME INTERNAL REVIEW BEFORE IT COMES TO US AND THEN GOES ON TO THE ACCREDITING

AGENCIES? >> SURE, THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS WE'RE CONSTANTLY WATCHING THIS. THERE'S FEEDBACK THAT GOES INTO THIS DOCUMENT FROM OUR FIREFIGHTERS.

PART OF THE OVERALL REACCREDITATION PROCESS, WE HAVE BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDER INFORMATION, WE HOLD PUBLIC SETTINGS. THERE'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH SURVEYS, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH THE AMBULANCE SURVEYS FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN TRANSPORTED. OR IN THIS ROOM WE'VE HAD SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. WE CONDUCTED AN INDEPENDENT THIRD-PARTY DRIVEN FEEDBACK SESSION.

WE'VE DONE THAT. WE'VE DONE IT FOR THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AS WELL. AND SO OFTEN IN OUR COMMUNITY WE HEAR LOTS OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK. WE ALSO NEED TO HEAR THE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK WHEN THINGS DON'T GO WELL.

SO WE TAKE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND THEN WE PUT IT TOGETHER AND THE CHECKS AND BALANCES REALLY I THINK MAYBE IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS. AS PART OF THE NEXT STEPS FOR OUR REACCREDITATION PROCESS, THERE'S A TEAM THAT'S ASSIGNED TO THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT FROM ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.

AND THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE FIRE SERVICE AND THEY WILL COME TO CARMEL, INDIANA AND DO AN INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT OF OUR ORGANIZATION AND ACTUALLY PROOF OUR DOCUMENTS TO SEE IF WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SAYING HOLDS TRUE EXACTLY.

AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS, ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN UPLOADED. THEY WERE UPLOADED AT THE END OF AUGUST. THE PROCESS HAS 45 DAYS FOR THIS FIVE MEMBER TEAM. AND THE TEAM MEMBERS DON'T

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WE HAVE SEVERAL TEAM MEETINGS BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME THAT THEY ACTUALLY SHOW. WE'RE EXPECTING THE TEAM TO COME IN EARLY TO MID-NOVEMBER. AND THEY WILL BE HERE FOR FOUR DAYS. THEY'LL ARRIVE ON A SUNDAY.

LEAVE EITHER WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY DEPENDING ON HOW IT GOES. THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE COMMISSION. AND THEN IF ALL GOES WELL, WE WILL BE SITTING BEFORE THE COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY OF 2024 AND THAT'S ANOTHER PANEL THAT WE WILL SIT THROUGH AND THEY WILL HAVE REVIEWED THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THERE WILL BE RECOMMENDATIONS AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO TELL YOU THAT CARMEL FIRE IS PERFECT IN EVERY CATEGORY, WE CAN ALWAYS GET BETTER.

SO WE WILL SIT BEFORE THAT COMMISSION AND TALK ABOUT WAYS THAT WE HAVE IMPROVED. WE START WORKING ON RECOMMENDATIONS EVEN BEFORE THE PEER TEAM LEAVES US.

SO WHEN THEY'RE HERE IN NOVEMBER, IF THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO US, WE START WORKING ON THEM IMMEDIATELY.

ONE OF THE VERY SATISFYING THINGS TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHEN WE SIT BEFORE THE COMMISSION IS THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT US BEING CUTTING EDGE, IT'S ABOUT US BEING WORLD CLASS AND IT'S ABOUT US DELIVERING THE SERVICES THAT OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES DESERVE AND PAY FOR IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S THE ACCREDITATION PROCESS AND THE STANDARD OF COVER IN A SNAPSHOT. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AND THE WORK OF YOUR DEPARTMENT.

>> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILOR NELSON.

>> YOU'RE CERTAINLY A WORLD CLASS ORGANIZATION.

THANK YOU, CHIEF. THE DETAILS OF ALL OF THIS, IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE THE POPULATION GROWTH AND ALSO WITH JUST THE CHANGE IN THE INSTRAY STRU STRUCTURE -- INFRASTRUCTURE WITH ALL OF THE ROUNDABOUTS.

WHAT CHALLENGES DOES THE CARMEL FIRE DEPARTMENT FACE NOW IN GETTING TO ALL OF US WHEN NEEDED.

>> THAT'S A BIG QUESTION. FOR THE SAKE OF BREVITY, I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR GROWTH, WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR POPULATION. WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR RESPONSE TIMES. WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY RESPONDING ON RUNS. SO WE'RE TAKING THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION. I THINK THIS GROUP KNOWS THAT WE ARE PLANNING FOR A STATION 47 HOPEFULLY IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WHICH THIS GROUP HAS BEEN ABLE TO SEE WHICH BY THE WAY THE STRATEGIC PLAN TALKS ABOUT OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP, COUNCILOR NELSON.

IT TALKS ABOUT OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN.

IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT OUR BUDGET AND IT ADDRESSES SOME OF THE GROWTH AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WATCHING OUT FOR.

THAT DOCUMENT IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.

AND THAT WILL BE UPLOADED TO OUR WEBSITE AS AFTER THIS DOCUMENT HOPEFULLY IS APPROVED BY THE AUTHORITY HAVING JURISDICTION, YOU ALL, THIS WILL BECOME A PUBLIC DOCUMENT AS WELL AND THIS WILL BE UPLOADED. SO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE DETAILED SPECIFICALLY IN EACH OF THESE TWO DOCUMENTS. AND SO FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING AT HOME WE ARE LOOKING AND WE'RE PLANNING OUR GROWTH IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF OUR COMMUNITY NEAR 131ST OR MAIN STREET AND TOWN ROAD.

THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT HAS ACREAGE OUT THERE THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT BUILDING ON. AND SO WITH THE CITY'S HELP AND US DOING SOME PLANNING, WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO BETTER SERVE THE NORTHWEST AREA. SO THAT'S THE AREA THAT IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

THANKS. >> ALL RIGHT IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I WOULD TAKE A MOTION.

>> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. OKAY, THAT CARRIES.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO NOW ITEM 16A.

THANK YOU, CHIEF. OH NO, I'M SORRY, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE. GO AHEAD.

>> JUST VERY QUICKLY, I THINK I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT HOW THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE ACCREDITATION.

I DO WANT TO THANK THIS BODY FOR CONTINUING TO BE PROGRESSIVE, FORWARD THINKING, AND RATHER THAN US BEING A REACTIVE COMMUNITY FOR US BEING PROACTIVE THROUGH THE CRISIS INTERVENTION PROGRAM. I'M SUPER PROUD OF WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS DOING AND I THINK THAT WE'RE CUTTING EDGE IN THIS CATEGORY AND SO THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THAT.

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THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THIS EVENING.

[16. OTHER BUSINESS]

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. ALL RIGHT, NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO ASME 16A, APPROVAL OF CRC PURCHASE OF 444, 506, AND 508

SOUTH RANGELINE ROAD. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

IN 2015, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A PUD FOR THE MIDTOWN AREA THAT INCLUDED -- LET'S SEE IN THE EXHIBIT TO THE RIGHT HERE, IT INCLUDED THIS EARLY VERSION OF THE MIDTOWN THAT WE KNOW TODAY. THERE'S MIDTOWN PLAZA IN THE BLUE, THE PARKING GARAGE, JC HART, ANOTHER PARKING GARAGE.

BUT THE ORIGINAL MIDTOWN PUD ALSO INCLUDED WHAT WE CALL BLOCKS 4 AND 5 OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

AT THAT POINT WHEN THIS PUD WAS APPROVED, THE DEVELOPER OF OLDTOWN KIND OF HAD THE WEST SIDE OF THIS ALL AGGREGATED, BUT THE EAST SIDE BLOCK 4, 5 KIND OF LOOKED LIKE THIS.

AND THE PARCELS WERE OWNED BY A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES.

FAST FORWARD EIGHT YEARS LATER AND BLOCK 4 AND 5 FRANKLY STILL LOOKS LIKE THAT BECAUSE NO ONE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN ABLE TO AGGREGATE ALL OF THE LAND TO BE ABLE TO REALLY GO TO MARKET WITH THE ANCHOR OFFICE TENANT FOR THE NEXT LARGE PROJECT THAT WAS ENVISIONED AS BLOCK 4 AND 5 AS PART OF OUR MIDTOWN PUD FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. WE NOW HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AGGREGATE ALL OF THIS LAND UNDER ONE USER.

THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF THIS CENTER SECTION OF WHAT USED TO BE THIS JIGSAW PUZZLE OF LAND AGGREGATION. USING 2021 TIF FUNDS WHICH REQUIRED COUNCIL APPROVAL AS WELL.

FOR ANYBODY OUT THERE WATCHING, THIS IS IN A PUD.

SO ANYTHING THAT WOULD EVER HAPPEN IN THIS AREA WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL WOULD REQUIRE AN INCENTIVE SIDE ON THE BOND SIDE AND THE LOCATION SIDE, COUNCIL APPROVAL.

AND ON THE PLANNING SIDE, BOTH THE APPROVAL OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION BUT ALSO THE APPROVAL OF THE FULL PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE THIS IS IN A PUD AREA.

SO THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL SORTS OF REVIEW HERE FROM COUNCIL, FROM THE FULL PLANNING COMMISSION, FROM THE CRC. BUT WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ENABLE A DEVELOPER TO BE ABLE TO GO TO MARKET AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN EIGHT YEARS OR FRANKLY EVER TO FINALLY SAY THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A NEXT BIG HEADQUARTERS BUILDING.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A NEXT BIG PROJECT.

SO I AM SEEKING THE APPROVAL OF COUNCIL TO AFFIRM THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION'S PURCHASE OF THIS PROPERTY.

THE PURCHASE PRICE IS $2.9 MILLION.

IT'S ACTUALLY LESS THAN THE AVERAGE OF TWO APPRAISALS THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS PROPERTY. AND IF COUNCIL IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THIS WOULD REALLY ALLOW THIS LAND TO NOW BE ABLE TO KIND OF MOVE FURTHER TOWARDS DEVELOPMENT.

OBVIOUSLY WITH PLENTY OF APPROVALS FROM A HOST OF GOVERNING BODIES STILL TO COME. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT WE WOULD TAKE TITLE TO THIS PROPERTY SUBJECT TO OLD TOWN.

THE DEVELOPER HAS THE REST OF THE LAND, THEIR PURCHASE OPTION OF THIS LAND SO THAT THEY WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO ONCE THEY HAVE A DEAL IN PLACE AND THAT DEAL HAS BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, PLANNING COMMISSION, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO UNDER THE PURCHASE OPTION PURCHASE IT BACK FROM US FOR THE AMOUNT THAT WE PAID PLUS OUR COSTS IN IT ON TOP OF THAT.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

COUNCILOR AASEN. >> JUST ON THAT POINT, YOU KIND OF GOT ONTO THAT ABOUT THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY.

SO IS THAT A WRITTEN AGREEMENT OR WOULD THAT GO BACK TO COUNCIL TO APPROVE THAT THE SALE IS MATCHING UP TO THE PURCHASE

PRICE? >> IT WOULD BE A CONDITION OF CLOSING THAT WE WOULD TAKE TITLE TO THIS PROPERTY SUBJECT TO OLD TOWN'S ABILITY TO REPURCHASE IT. OTHERWISE THEY'D NEVER

PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF THIS. >> OKAY, SO THAT WOULD BE AFTER ANY KIND OF PUD OR HOW WOULD THAT WORK?

>> YEAH, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY LAND BANKING THIS FOR THEM SO THAT

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>> AND I'M NOT ACCUSING YOU OF ANYTHING, BUT SAY I GET A REALLY DIFFICULT PERSON WHO SAYS WELL HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO SELL IT FOR THE AMOUNT THAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO? IS THERE ANY KIND OF ASSURANCE I CAN TELL THEM?

>> TODAY THE PURCHASE OPTION IS FOR THE EXACT AMOUNT THAT WE PAID PLUS COSTS. WE DON'T EVER KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE BRINGS. WHATEVER DEAL HAPPENS HAS TO BE SIGNED OFF BY OBVIOUSLY THE COUNCIL ALONG WITH OTHER BODIES.

BUT I THINK A LARGER POINT IS, LOOK THIS AREA HAS NOT BEEN A GREAT AREA FOR A LONG TIME. IN FACT IT'S SLIGHTLY EMBARRASSING THAT WE HAVE THIS LIKE NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AWARD-WINNING MIDTOWN PLAZA AREA, BUT YOU GO ONE STREET EAST AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS AREA FROM THE 1970S.

>> I APPRECIATE THE REDEVELOPMENT.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL, PLANNING COMMISSION, AND PUBLIC INPUT IN WHAT THIS SITE CAN BE AND REALLY MAKE IT A GREAT PUBLIC AMENITY ON THIS SITE. AND THAT COUNCIL WILL HAVE A SAY IN THAT. AS YOU SAY IF IT'S TRANSFERRED FOR THE SAME AMOUNT, THEN THE COST IS NOT THERE FOR THE TAXPAYERS ON THE DEBT OF THIS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> ARE THERE ANY -- COUNCILOR HANNON.

>> JUST QUICKLY, I WOULD ECHO WHAT COUNCILOR AASEN SAID.

I THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE OF CRC FUNDS AND LEVERAGE TO PURCHASE THIS TO AGGREGATE AS YOU SAY.

AND IF IN FACT, IT TRANSFERS TO OLD TOWN OR WHOEVER DEVELOPER AT COST PLUS, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD MOVE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT. >> THANK YOU.

AND MOTION TO APPROVE. >> THANK YOU.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, PLEASE VOTE.

AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT, ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? IF NOT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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