Nov 05, 2026 Carmel Plan Commission

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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION COMMITTE

[2. Docket No. PZ-2026-00158 PUD: Clayshire PUD Rezone. ]

THE APPLICANT SINKS -- SEEKS PD REZONED APPROVAL TO ALLOW A NEW SUBDIVISION BUT 53 LOTS.

THE SITE IS LOCATED AT ONE TO 411 TOWN ROAD.

IT IS ZONED S 1 RESIDENTIAL. FILED BY JIM SHINAVER AND JON DOBOSIEWICZ WITH NELSON & FRANKENBERGER ON BEHALF OF MI HOMES OF INDIANA. COMMISSIONER.

>> GOOD EVENING. BROTHER RECORD, JIM SHINAVER AN JON DOBOSIEWICZ ON BEHALF OF TH PET APPLICANT.

OF LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TONIGHT , CINDY SPENCER IS A NEW HIRE IN OUR OFFICE AS MONDAY. YOU'RE LIKELY TO SEE MORE OF HE IN THE FUTURE. NOT LESS OF ME BUT JUST MORE OF HER AND WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE HER ABOARD AND THE HELP THAT SHE'S GOING TO BUY FIND A. I WILL JUMP INTO OUR PRESENTATION. RECEIVED A COPY OF THE REPORT AND WE WERE BACK IN FRONT OF TH PLANNING COMMISSION ON OCTOBER MEGAN I RECEIVED YOUR COMMENTS AND REQUESTS FOR CERTAIN ITEMS. I'M GOING TO REVIEW THOSE THROUGH OUR PRESENTATION.

IT IS MORE OF A DIALOGUE SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTION ALONG THE WAY, DON'T HESITATE T STOP AND WE CAN COVER THAT ITEM AND IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AT THE END.

THIS IS THE REVISED CONCEPT PLA WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR SUBMITTAL AND IT SHOWS A FEW THINGS THAT WANT TO GO OVER BUT THERE IS AN AMENDMENT TO THIS ONE THAT IS I PARTICULAR WITH REGARD TO THE TRAIL COMPONENT I WILL FLIP TO THAT PAGE AND THIS NEW INFORMATION IS SHOWN ON BOTH PAGES.

HERE IS HIGHLIGHTED THAT STAFF HAD REQUESTED IN ONE OF THEIR OUTSTANDING COMMENTS THAT WE PROVIDE A 10-FOOT TRAIL THAT CONNECTED THE ROUNDABOUT AT 126 STREET WITH THE SOUTHEAST CORNE OF THE PROPERTY. SO TWO ITEMS, ONE DISCONNECTION THAT IS SHOWN AND THAT ALL THE TRAILS WOULD BE 10 FEET AND THA DOES NOT INCLUDE SIDEWALKS THE REST OF THE WAY THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT BUT THAT IS PARTICULAR IN THIS LOCATION.

IT TERMINATES AT THE EAST PROPERTY LINE AND THE OTHER ITEMS FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WERE RATHER CERTAIN ABOUT IS A DEDICATION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY AND A DETERMINATION OF THIS CUL-DE-SAC THERE THAT'S BEEN ACCOMMODATED ON THE PLANS AND I IN THE FUTURE THE CITY DECIDED IT WAS IMPORTANT TO MAKE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THAT POINT AND THE ROAD WITHIN THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY THAT GETS YOU BACK OVER TO HOOVER, THEY COULD MAKE THAT.

FOR CONSTRUCTING IT FROM THE EDGE OF THE ROUNDABOUT TO THE CUL-DE-SAC AND WERE DEDICATING 56-FOOT WIDE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN IT WOULD RUN ALONGSIDE THAT. THERE'S A SEPARATION BETWEEN THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE AND THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION THAT STAFF HAD AND IT WOULD BE PRESERVATION ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE AND IT WILL BE 20 FEET AND THAT WAS ANOTHER COMMENT THAT THEY MADE SO WE COMMUNICATED BACK TO THE STAFF AFTER RECEIVING THE STAFF OF EARLIER TODAY BUT THAT ITEM WOULD BE AMENDED IN THE ORDINANCE AND EVEN IF THE CITY DECIDED TO PUT THE RIGHT WAY, THERE WAS STILL BEEF THAT ONE OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG THE SOUTH PERIMETER WITH

THE REAL ESTATE. >> THIS IS GROUND THAT WE COVERED AT THE PRIOR MEETING BU WE ADDED IN SOME DETAIL.

ALONG THE EAST OF THE SECTOR THERE WILL BE A 20-FOOT AREA AN THREES PLANTED ALONG THE PERIMETER AND ABOVE THE SPACE BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT WE'VE SHOWN HERE IS AN IMAGE THAT I'VE SHOWN YOU, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL THREES IN THE REA YARD AND THIS REPRESENTS A BUFFER ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT 20-FOOT AND THERE WOULD BE DRAINAGE BEYOND THAT.

THERE WOULD NOT BE A SWALE ALON THAT IMMEDIATE PROPERTY LINE IF THE TREE LINE EXIST TODAY BUT THERE BE ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS WITHIN THE 20-FOOT BUFFER AND THE BACK OF THE LOT WITH ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS ON THIS REPRESENTS WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE PLANTING THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM STANDARD APPLIED TO ALL WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT SO THE TREE PLANTINGS THAT YOU SEE, WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. DAY ALONG THE EDGE OF THE

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THE SOURCE OF WHERE THAT ENDS AND THE REST OF IT ALONG THE EAST PERIMETER UNTIL YOU GET TO THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE ALONG THE BACKSIDE PLAYGROUND, THE NEW FENCE IS PICKED UP AT THAT LOCATION. OVER TO THE ROUNDABOUT AT 126 STREET. THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH THAT REPRESENTS WHAT IS OUT THERE TODAY.

AND THEN THIS REPRESENTS THE METAL FENCE THAT WOULD GO IN TH REST OF THE PERIMETER. IF THEY WANTED TO SENSE THAT IN THEIR BACKYARD, THEY WOULD HAVE THE STYLE THAT WAS SHOWN THERE.

AND THAT IS DIFFERENT STYLES THROUGHOUT THE AREA.

AND WE WERE ALSO ASKED TO CONSIDER ENHANCEMENTS PROVIDED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. ONE AREA WE WEREN'T ASKED NOT T ENHANCE IS THE PLAYGROUND. THERE IS A SET PLACE IN THE ORDINANCE. THIS IS A REQUIREMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. AND I THINK WE SET THAT UP AS A GRAYSCALE AND IT IS GOING TO BE ADJACENT TO AND THERE IS CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THOSE TWO AND THE PLAN OF NORTH AND FOR THIS SEEDING AREA IS A FIRE PIT. AND ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE SPENT CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AT END COMMITTEE BUZZ REGARDING TH HOME ARCHITECTURE AND WE HAD TO CHANGE BETWEEN THE WAY THE HOME ARE RENDERED. AND I WILL CALL IT.

IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE, STUDIO IS HERE. THERE'S ENHANCEMENT THAT YOU SE ON THE FRONT AND ACROSS THE SID AND WE BOTH SHOWED YOU THAT HER AS WE GO THROUGH THE SLIDES. THERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT HOMES.

AND THIS IS THE IMAGERY AND THE THE STYLE OF THE WINDOWS, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD BE CARRIE AROUND ALL SIDES OF THE HOUSE.

IT CARRIES AROUND THE REST OF THE HOUSE AND OUT THE SOUTH WINDOW AND AT THE SOUTH THE REA OF THE HOME.

SIMILAR STYLES ARE CURED AROUND THE SIDE AND YOU WILL SEE IN TH IMAGERY THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS ON THE SIDE ELEVATION AND FOR THAT CHANGE A MATERIAL PATTERN IS MADE SO YOU HAVE LESS OF WHAT I WOULD CALL A COMMON EXTERIOR FAÇADE AND I WILL POINT THAT OUT .

YOU CAN'T SEE IT UNLESS YOU ZOO IN BUT YOU SEE THE PATTERN THAT IS ON THE FRONT IS CARRIED OVER TO THE SIDE.

THERE ARE BRACKETS END UP FENCE AND THEN THE SURROUNDED THE WINDOW THERE IS A SURROUND IT I ALL 1 BY 4 SURROUND AND HAS SOME MORE ARTICULATED HEADER ON IT.

IS JUST A FLOORBOARD THAT WRAPS THOSE WINDOWS.

AND THE FIRST WAS A BRANCH. JUST A MORE REPRESENTATION OF THE LEASE. AND THIS IS THE RIGHT AND LEFT SIDE AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT I WAS DETAILING A MOMENT AGO WAS THIS AREA THAT IS ON THE CABLE END. AND THIS IS HORIZONTAL SIDING

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ADDITIONALLY ALL SIDES ARE DWELLING ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE HOME. AGAIN YOU SEE ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURE ENHANCEMENTS, WINDOWS AND STYLE CARRIED OUT, ROOF TREATMENT AND THE SIDE ELEVATION WHERE YOU SEE THE SAM ELEMENTS AND THERE IS A CHANGE IN THAT CABLE THERE.

>> ON THE PORCH IS THAT YOU ARE SHOWN, THEY HAVE THE SIZE OF THEM AND IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENT AND WHAT IS IN THE

PUD. >> IT IS ESSENTIALLY THE PORCH.

>> AND EVERYONE YOU ARE SHOWING HERE IS THAT SIZE.

>> IT WILL BE. AT TWO-STORY.

ELEMENTS ARE CARRIED ALONG THE SIDE THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE TREATMENT THAT YOU SEE ON THE FRONT.

AND ANOTHER RANCH HOME AND THEN THE REAR OF THE HOME FOR A DISCOURSE ON THE BACKSIDE OF TH GARAGE.

LEFT-HAND SIDE, RIGHT HAND SIDE. ANOTHER RANCH DWELLING.

LEFT AND RIGHT. WHAT I JUST REVIEWED WITH YOU WAS ALL OF THE IMAGES THAT HAVE INCLUDED THE PACKAGING AND I THINK HAVE TWO OR THREE MORE ELEVATIONS SO THIS WAS WHAT I PROVIDED ON THIS REVIEW WITH AN ADDITION TO WHAT HAD BEEN SUBMITTED WITH OUR INFORMATIONA GROCER.

THESE ARE COMMAS THAT REMADE BY STAFF IN THE STAFF REPORT OF MY WONT, I BELIEVE THIS UP HERE BU I'M NOT GOING TO WORD IT VERBATIM BUT THERE WAS A COMMEN ABOUT EVENT SPACE AND WILL WE MET WITH STAFF, THERE WILL BE A MINIMUM OF 25% COMMON OPEN SPAC AND 20% -- 80%, IF YOU WILL OR 20% OF THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE WOULD BE TH GEOMETRIC STANDARDS OF THE EDO.

STAFF WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. WE WERE ASKED TWO TO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF RANCH HOMES. WE'VE COMMITTED TO FIVE.

THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM STANDARD BUT THEY HAVE CONVEYED TO US ALL THE HOMES HAVE BEDROOMS ON THE FIRST FLOOR TO THE RANCH HOMES ON THE TWO-STOR HOMES HAVE BEDROOMS ON THE FIRS FLOOR AND AT LEAST ONE PLAN THA THEY HAVE TODAY HAS THE MASTER SWEET ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE TWO STORY SO THOSE ARE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO FOLKS AND THEY WILL HAVE THEIR PRIMARY LIVING BEING ON THE FIRST FLOOR BUT AGAIN ALL THE HOMES ALSO HAVE BASEMENTS SO EVERY HOME WILL HAVE A BASEMENT AND THERE WILL BE STAIRS AND DWELLING. THAT IS A REQUIREMENT HEN THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE A BASEMENT PAID THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS REVISED TO SHOW THE 10-FOOT PATH. ALL PADS WOULD BE 10 FEET.

THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WIL BE ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE AND THEN FINALLY THE SOUTH PERIMETE SPECIFIED AS PRESERVATION.

IS CALLED OUT AS 20 FEET IN THA IS WHAT IS REPRESENTED ON THE PLAN AND THERE'S ANOTHER SHE THAT I DIDN'T PUT UP FOR REVIEW THIS EVENING. THAT'S MORE UP OF AN ENGINEER DECIDE PLAN AND THIS IS OF RENDERING STAFF ALSO ASKED FOR GREEN OR SUSTAINABLE CHECKLIST AND STAFF PROVIDED THAT LAST WEEK AND I FILLED IT OUT AND SUBMITTED IT TO STAFF WITH THE ITEMS IN THERE ABOUT HALF A DOZEN BETWEEN HALF A DOZEN AND DOING HALF-DOZEN AND A DOZEN ITEMS ON THAT LIST AND THEY IDENTIFIED AS THINGS THAT WERE INCORPORATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. THAT IS OUR PRESENTATION.

WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTION AN ADDITIONAL ITEMS AND WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE PLAN COMMISSION CONSIDER FOR LEADING THE MATTER UP TO THE FULL PLAN COMMISSION AS WELL.

I STINK THANK STAFF HAS MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

THOSE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION AND WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE MEETING AN WITH THAT I WILL BE GLAD TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGH

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HAVE PAID. >> THANK YOU, JOHN.

>> FOR THE RECORD, ALEXIA LÓPEZ WITH THE ZONING OFFICE.

SO WE HAD SEVERAL ITEMS IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WERE OUTSTANDING AND THE PETITIONERS GONE THROUGH THOSE AND PROVIDED RESPONSES TO ALL OF THOSE AND THEY'VE MADE A LOT OF CHANGES BEGINNING WITH THIS PUD, ADJUSTING THE COMMENT AREA OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT IN THE MULTIUSE PACT PACK THAT WILL CONNECT FROM THE NORTH ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE SOUTHEAST.

THEY ADDED THE RIGHT-OF-WAY SO IF WE EVER WANT TO CONNECT THAT ROAD IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE.

THEY HAVE ADDRESSED A LOT OF OU ARCHITECTURAL COMMENTS AND ADDE MORE REQUIREMENTS TO THE PUD. PORCH SIZES, WHICH ADDING THAT REQUIREMENT FOR THE REQUIREMENT OF ONE STORY HOMES, MAKING SURE THAT THE MASONRY AROUND IS THE SAME MATERIAL ALL THE WAY AROUN AND WINDOWS ON ALL FOUR SIDES. THEY'VE ALSO INCREASED THE SIDE BOX I BELIEVE TO BE 6 FEET NOW THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY'VE ADJUSTED SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH SO AT THIS POINT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THE PUD CHANGES THAT SURE IT IS WRITTEN INTO THE PUD BUT I THINK WE WOULD RECOMMEND IT FOR THIS BACK TO THE PLAN COMMISSION WITH THE SAME RECOMMENDATION CONTINGENT ON THOSE ITEMS BEING UPDATED AND W CAN CONFIRM THAT BEFORE THE NEX MEETING.

AND THAT WOULD BE ON NOVEMBER 17 .

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

COMMITTEE, DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER? I APPRECIATE THE SIDEWALKS AND THE WALKING PATH.

APART FROM THAT, WHAT WAS ADDED TO THE AMENITIES PICKED MAYBE I MISSED IT BUT IT SEEM LIKE A WHOLE LOT HAS CHANGED SELECT TH ONE ADDITION WAS THE ENHANCEMEN TO THE PLAYGROUND PICK ORIGINALLY ORIGINALLY THERE WAS NOT A PLAN FOR THE PLAYGROUND AND ADDED BUT THAT MIGHT BE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASKED FOR ENHANCEMENTS ON THAT SO WE PROVIDED THAT FOR THE PLAYGROUND . I THOUGHT THAT WAS AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING. 'S LIGHTING EQUIPMENT LESS CLIMBING EQUIPMENT. PRODUCT GATHERED FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THAT IT JUST WAS NOT ENOUGH TO SATISFY THOSE NEEDED FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WE DID INCREASE, SORRY, THE NUMBER OF RANCH HOMES FROM 10%.

>> THERE WAS NOT A COMMITMENT PREVIOUSLY FOR A NUMBER BUT WE HAVE COMMITTED, RATHER THAN A PERCENTAGE, WE HAVE COMMITTED T

FIVE. >> I'VE A QUESTION ON THE PLAYGROUND I CAN JUMP IN. IF YOU WANT TO PUT THAT PICTURE UP AGAIN, ALL I CAN TO GIVE US HOW DISAPPOINTED I WAS ABOUT TH PLAYGROUND AND THE MAIN REASON WAS THERE WAS, YOU HAVE TWO BENCHES ON THEIR. I KNOW I HAD ASKED FOR THAT LAS TIME. WHAT IS GOING TO BE ON THE BOTTOM IN CUBA HAVE A TREE THER OR ANYTHING FOR SHADE BECAUSE I GETS VERY HOT AND PARENTS GO ON THE SUMMER AND THE KIDS ARE THERE. I THINK A FEW MORE THINGS COULD BE ADDED TO THAT. I'M NOT SURE HOW BIG THAT IS I SEE ALL YOU HAVE ON IT. I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I THINK IT COULD BE DONE BETTER PREPARED.

>> I THINK IT REPRESENTS APPROXIMATELY 40 BY 60 SPACE THERE IS A DESIRE TO SEE MORE SEEDING, IT'S A MINIMUM NUMBER OF BENCHES THAT YOU SEE THEIR. IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO A SHELTER AREA SO IT IS LOCATED HERE AND I WILL ASK FOR A BLOW BLOWUP AND A DETAILED LANDSCAPING AND OTHER PLANTINGS THAT WOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SHADE SO THERE IS NOT A SHADE STRUCTURE ON PLAYGROUND. THAT'S NOT EVEN A BAD IDEA.

THE LANDSCAPING WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A DETAILED LANDSCAPING

PLAN. >> IT JUST GETS HOT OUT THERE.

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>> WHILE YOU WERE IN PLAYGROUND WHAT IS MATERIAL THAT IT IS ALL GOING TO SIT ON. I'M LOOKING AT SOMETHING VERY TAN I'M ASSUMING THAT IS NOT SAND AND NOT MUD CAN YOU RESTAT

THE QUESTION? >> WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE MATERIAL ON WHICH THE PLAYGROUN SITS.

>> I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A MULCHED BED PLAYGROUND.

IT IS WHAT WE ARE SHOWING HERE AT LEAST.

>> I'M LOOKING AT MULCH IN THAT RENDERING.

>> YES. >> THANK YOU.

>> I THINK EVERYTHING HAS BEEN ASKED FOR YOU HAVE ACCOMMODATED AND YOU MEET EVERY CHANGE THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. LANDSCAPING LOOKS GREAT.

PARTICULARLY ALONG THE WEST SID IT LOOKS REALLY NICE.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FOR THE RANCH HOUSE COMMITMENT UP DOING FIVE, I THINK THAT IS GREAT AND FOR ME IT DOES NOT HINGE ON THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IF YOU THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE MOSTL FAMILIES THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT OPTION WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID HIS DOWN THE ROAD YOU ARE HAVING TO COME BAC FOR A PUD AMENDMENT IF YOUR LAS HOME BUYER WANTS A FAMILY HOUSE. YOU THINK THIS WON'T BE A

PROBLEM. >> IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. THE SIZE OF THE HOMES, THESE AR AFOREDESCRIBED BEDROOM HOMES WITH BASEMENTS AND EVERYTHING W HAVE SHOWN YOU, WE ANTICIPATE BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE HOME AND THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS ANTICIPATED THAT WHEN YOU SAY FAMILY HOMES, WE ARE DISSIPATIN THAT'S GOING TO BE ATTRACTIVE T LARGER FAMILIES. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT PEOPLE HAV GOT ALL THAT EXTRA SPACE THAT THEY STILL WANT RATHER THAN A

TWO-STORY WITH STAIRS. >> I AGREE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I THIS IS MARKETED MOSTLY TUB FAMILIES, IS THERE GOING TO BE PROBLEM, MAYBE NOT PICKED WHEN THE REPORT IT SAID A MINIMUM OF ONE STORY HOMES OR COMMITMENT O THE NUMBER OF FIRST FLOOR PRIMARY SUITES.

I DIDN'T REALLY LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.

THAT'S JUST MY REQUEST AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT IT IS SPELLED OUT SPECIFICALLY JUST TO MAKE SURE.

JUST WHAT YOU ARE REPRESENTING IS IN THERE.

I THINK THE CHANGES YOU HAVE MADE LOOK GREAT AND I APPRECIAT THE UPDATED ARCHITECTURE AS WELL .

THAT IS THE SUBSTANTIAL REQUIREMENT.

>> THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> I WILL GO FIRST. JOHN, I APPRECIATE THE UPDATES AND THE CHANGES THAT YOU HAVE MADE BIG I LIKE WHERE THIS IS HEADED ON A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE GOT ARE MORE RELATE TO THIS POTENTIAL AND I THINK I HAVE SPOKEN AT THE LAST MEETING OR ONE BEFORE. I'M CERTAINLY A FAN OF ALL OF OUR CONNECTIVITY THAT WE HAVE PUT IT KEEPS A FEW TRIPS OFF TH MAIN ROAD. IF YOU WANT TO GO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU CAN GET THERE .

SO I AM APPRECIATIVE OF THE CONTINUED COORDINATION AND SHOWING US THIS POTENTIAL DEDICATION AND MAYBE SOMEDAY MAKING A CONNECTION. THE QUESTION I'VE GOT RELATED T THAT WOULD BE AS IS THERE ENGINEERING OR SOME TYPE OF PAYMENT IN LIEU OF THAT IF IT'S NEEDED, CAN WE COVER THAT'S WAS NOT BURDENED TO THE REST OF THE CARMEL TAXPAYERS JUST LIKE WE HAVE DEVELOPERS BELT QUITE LIKE THIS, STUCK NEXT TO A CORNFIELD NEXT DOOR. JUST LET ME KNOW OR CONSIDER THAT. I'M JUST CURIOUS.

SO IT ISN'T A BURDEN TO OTHERS BUT MAKE IT PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE WE TYPICALLY DO.

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I JUST QUESTION DOESN'T FIT IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND IS THE AS HAVE TO GET BIGGER AND IS THERE LESS GREEN SPACE BETWEEN CURB AND PATH AND I'M WONDERING IS DOES THAT GREET OUR RIPPLE EFFECT AS WE HAD TO MOVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY LINES APPEAR THAT'

KIND OF WHAT I WAS WONDERING. >> IT IS GOING TO BLOCK WIDEN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. IT DIDN'T CREATE ANY OBSTACLES FROM A COVERAGE STANDPOINT OR 25 % GREEN SPACE.

AS FAR AS THAT MATH GOES. IN ON THE PATH ACROSS THE FRONTAGE WOULD BE A MODEST IMPACT TO THE SIDE.

AND DOES THE GREEN SPACE COMMITMENT, IS NOT ACCOUNTED FO IN THIS A DIGITAL RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION.

I'M CURIOUS IF THEM NO. >> IF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WERE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE COMES NOT GOING TO PENALIZE US, THE AREA THAT IS OCCUPIED AND IT WILL COUNT TOWARDS THE OPEN SPACE. AND THE OTHER COMMENT I HAD WAS YOU GUYS HAVE MADE CHANGES LAST TIME COMMITMENT INTO THE ROUNDABOUT TAKE CARE OF FIRE TRUCKS ARE ALL APPRECIATED AT I LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE SIMILAR AT LEAST IT IS THE WOODS THAT SHOW 121. AT LOOKS LIKE ACCOMMODATING ACCESS. AND NOW I ONLY HAVE FOUR QUESTIONS. GOING BACK TO MY JUST PUT A MAK SURE AND MOSTLY FOR THE EDIFICATION, WHAT A PROJECT HAS LIKE THIS WITH 50 LETTERS COMMUNICABLE YEARS SEEING THING THAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. ISN'T REALLY CLEAR FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT BE WATCHING AND FOR THE RECORD, THE DARK GREEN SPAC ON THE SOUTH PART IS THAT DEDICATED RIGHT-OF-WAY AREA, CORRECT? BACK THERE WILL BE A 20-FOOT AREA TO MAINTAIN THE PROPER AND THEN THE 56-FOOT WIDE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS THAT SPACE RIGH THERE THAT I CROSSED OUT AND

STAFF CAN ZOOM IN ON THAT. >> THAT DEDICATED RIGHT-OF-WAY,

THAT IS THE TREE PRESERVATION? >> NO.

BUT IT IS BEYOND THAT. >> THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR. SO THE DARK, JUST KIND OF VISIBLE. IS A DEDICATED SPACE OF THE TRE LINE WITHIN YOUR MARKS RIGHT THERE.

>> YES. SECONDLY, CAN YOU PUT UP THE DIFFERENT RENDERINGS OF THE HOM STYLES AND JUST QUICKLY GO THROUGH AND WHAT I WANT TO GET AT IN LOOKING AT THESE IS THE PERCENTAGE OF MASONRY MATERIAL ON EACH.

AS I READ THROUGH THE LETTERS, THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS . THERE WAS A LOT OF MASONRY THAT HAVE TO JUGGLE THROUGH AND GIVE US RUN PERCENTAGES AND HOW THAT HAS CHANGED THE ADDITIONAL RENDERINGS.

>> IT WILL VARY AND WHAT WE HAV PREVIOUSLY SHOWN YOU IS UNCONDITIONAL LIKE THAT AND IT CARRIES ALL AROUND THAT WATER TABLE. AND THIS IS WHERE IT GOES UP TO THE THIRD FLOOR. THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING YOU TO POINT OUT BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT BE CLEAR WHAT IS MASONRY AND WHAT IS NOT. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO POIN THAT OUT. AND THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A RANCH HOME WHERE THIS MASONRY O THE FRONT ELEVATION, ALL THE WA UP TO THE WHOLE FRANK. IT'S MORE MASONARY ON THIS.

ONLY WATER TABLE ON ALL THE HOMES THAT I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN SHOWING YOU BEFORE BECAUSE THAT IS THE BASELINE AT AND ALL THE HOMES THAT HAVE OPTIONS, IF 70 WANTED TO DO AN ALL BRICK HOME, COME IF SIBLEY COULD BUILD AN ALL BRICK HOUSE, WE DIDN'T WANT TO SHOW YOU ALL BRICK HOUSES AND SOMEBODY COMES BACK LATER AND SAYS WAIT A MINUTE, HOW IS THIS GETTING CONSTRUCTED DIFFERENTLY AND WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING MORE CONSISTENT. PICKS OF THE OVERALL POINT BEIN ALL THE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S THE MINIMAL

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DIFFERENT OPTION AND ELEVATION. >> CAN YOU PUSH THAT OTHER ONE BACK UP YOU HAD THERE. AND MAY BE THE SAME FLOOR PLAN.

AT IF SOMEBODY WANTED A LARGER PORCH OTHER THAN WHAT THE VARIOUS DESIGNS SHOW, THAT IS A OPTION THAT CAN BE ACCOMMODATED.

>> THEIR 6-FOOT IN DEPTH AND 30 SQUARE FEET.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MODIFICATION CAN BE MADE FOR SOMEBODY. BECAUSE OF WHERE THE ROOFLINES MIKA MIGHT PARTICULARLY PARTICULARLY TWO-STORY.

AND I'M PROBABLY NOT THE ONE TO TALK ABOUT THIS WHEN YOU MEET A MINIMUM SLOPE, THERE'S ONLY SO FAR YOU CAN GO BEFORE THAT ROOF LINE INTERSECTION WHERE IT IS TOO LOW PAID SO IT IS DESIGNED THAT WAY WITH THE FOUR HEADS TO GET TO THAT MINIMUM 6-FOOT DIMENSION GUARANTEE. SOME OF THESE HOUSES HAVE PORCHES AND SOME OF THE APPLICATIONS THERE IS 8.5 AND I YOU WANTED A HOME WITH A LARGER PORCH GO THERE'S OPTIONS FOR YO WOULD HAVE A HOME WITH LARGER PORCH WE GUARANTEED THE PLANNIN COMMISSION THAT IT WOULD BE 6- FOOT DEPTH.

>> AND THAT WILL THAT ADDRESSES THE QUESTION, OR SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COE IN CONVERSATIONS OR LETTERS IS SUPPORT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAN THAT THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR LARGER PORCHES ON THEIR OPTIONS FOR MORE MASONRY BUT THE MINIMA MASONRY IS WHAT WE SEE IN THAT RENDERING.

>> THIS IS THE DYING AS AN OFFSET IN THE PLIGHT OF THE HOUSE AND THIS HAS MASONRY ALL THE WAY UP TO THE SECOND IN THE AREA RIGHT THERE BUT IT'S JUST MORE DIFFICULT TO SEE WITH THE LIGHTING. IN MY LAST POINT TO ADDRESS, ON OF THE LETTERS WE RECEIVE ASK FOR CERTAIN THINGS TO BE

ADDRESSED FOR THE RECORD. >> DO YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT?

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I THINK THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AT THIS MEETING AND PREVIOUS MENUS BUT SINCE WE'VE HAD A REQUEST SPECIFICALLY STATING THINGS THAT THEY WANTED

READ INTO THE RECORD. >> WE RECEIVED THAT EARLIER THI AFTERNOON I WILL READ IT AND WE CAN REVIEW IT.

THE SOUTH CUL-DE-SAC TO THE EAS PROPERTY LINE, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT IS THE DEDICATION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

THEY IDENTIFIED THAT PATH COULD RUN THROUGH IT AND IF THERE IS PATH BELT, IT WILL BE ON BOTH SIDES.

SO IF THEY COME BACK AROUND THE TURN AROUND HERE, LOOP, THERE I A DEDICATED PATH AND IT'S NOT LIKE WHAT DO I DO NOW.

AND THAT IS WHY THERE WAS THIS TURNAROUND.

THIS AREA HAS A LARGE ESTABLISHED AREA OF THREES.

IF THE CITY CONSTRUCTS ROAD, WERE NOT GOING TO TAKE THAT AND THOSE WOULD BE REMOVED. COULD THERE BE ADDITIONAL BUFFERING ADDED? THERE WILL BE PLANTINGS WITHIN THE SPACES ON EITHER SIDE. DOES TEN THREES AND A COKE WILL BE IN THE VICINITY OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PAID WE WILL NOT PUT ANY THREES IN THE PROPOSED RIGHT-OF-WAY ON BOTH SIDE SOUTH OF THE ROADWAY NORTH OF THE ROADWAY THERE WILL BE ADDITIONA THREES PLANTED ON THAT SPACE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, THE FUNDS IN THE ROADWAY WOULD NOT BE REMOVED.

THERE'S ALSO THE SECOND, REGARDING THE SOUTH POND THAT YOU SEE HERE AND INDICATES THAT THIS HAS BEEN CLEARLY RESHAPED AND IT APPEARS TO BE SMALLER AN IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS GENERAL AREA WAS ORIGINALLY WETLANDS AND THERE ARE ALREADY DRAINAGE ISSUES. OUR ENGINEER RESPONDED BACK TO THAT EARLIER TODAY AND PROPOSE SOUTHLAKE HAS BEEN RESHAPED AND ITS MUCH LARGER THAN THE OLD POND.

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THIS PROPOSED POND WILL IMPROVE THE STORM WATER DRAINAGE SUBSTANTIALLY AND WHY IS THAT. THERE IS A STORM EVENT AND FALL ON THE FARM FIELD AND IT RUNS UNABATED IT MEANS THERE IS NO CONTROL POINT. THAT WILL NO LONGER TAKE PLACE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE STORMWATER THAT IS CONNECTED AL THROUGH THIS SITE, IT WILL BE DISCHARGED FROM THE SOUTHERN POND AND FARTHER TO THE EAST AT A CONTROLLED RATE.

THERE WILL BE A PIPE AND THAT PIPE WILL COME I THINK AT THIS ONE TENTH OF WHAT THE STORMWATE WAS TODAY.

THOSE FOR THE TWO COMMENTS. THANK YOU.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE OUT STADIU -- THE OUTSTANDING ITEMS WERE ON THE ROUNDABOUT?

>> WE MET WITH OUR CLIENT MET WITH ENGINEERING AS LATE AS TODAY FOR THE SECOND ROUND OF COMMENTS AND THEY WANTED TO MAK SURE THAT THE TURN RADIUS WAS ADEQUATE AND THE DESIGN FEATURE FIRST THEY ASKED US TO PROVIDE THIS IN GROUP WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS AND WE PROVIDE EVIDENCE, MEANING A VEHICLE GOING NORTHBOUND AND BURNING INTO THE SITE, I THINK A TRUCK TURN RADIUS ON THAT SO IT IS NO JUST FOR PASSENGER VEHICLES.

>> DOES THAT INCLUDE EMERGENCY VEHICLES? EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SUBMITTED A THIS POINT.

STAFF HAS REVIEWED IT. THE OUTSTANDING COMMENT THAT ENGINEERING HAS IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL WE PROVIDED SEVERAL CROSS-SECTIONS FROM THE ROADWAY AND ENGINEERIN IS NAVIGATING COME UP THEY ARE MOVING TO NARROW TO SLOW TRAFFI BUT WHAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU TODA THEY'RE ASKING FOOT 11-FOOT TRAVEL LANES AND WE ARE GOING T REDUCE THE TRAVEL LANES DOWN TO 11 FEET BUT WE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OFFSTREET PARKING, THE STREET WIDENS OUT AND I THINK THAT IS AN 8-FOOT DIMENSION. IT WON'T BE -- THAT SAME VARIATION WHERE WE PROVIDE ON STREET PARKING COME ALONG WITH CURB STREETS, THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT HELP SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AND I THINK THAT IS THE REASON WHY ENGINEERING IS PROMOTING THAT AND THEY'VE AGREED TO WORK WITH THEM THROUG THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE AND HAVE BACK IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AFTER WE GET THROUGH ENGINEERING. WE HAD THE BLESSING OF A PLAN AND THEIR OBJECTIVES REGARDING THE LANGUAGE.

>> JOHN, YOUR DISCUSSION MADE M THINK OF ANOTHER QUESTION.

BY ALL MEANS IF THIS MOVES AHEA AND REPORT BACK, I APPRECIATE I THE INTERSECTION RATE THOUGH SCOTT RAISED CROSSWALKS AND WHETHER THIS WOULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAVE

CONTROL SPECIES. >> I HAVE HEARD YES RECENTLY.

THANKS. SO WE WOULD DESIGN THE CROSSWAL HERE AND IT WOULD BE IDENTICAL TO THE CROSSWALK OF THE OTHER THREE. AND IT IS IDENTICAL OUT OF A

COURT RAISED CROSSWALK. >> CAN ASK ONE MORE QUESTION AR WE ABLE TO SEE JUST SOMETHING TANGIBLE ON THE HEIGHT OF THESE HOMES COMPARED TO THE NEIGHBORING NEIGHBORHOODS EXPEC THERE WILL BE A COMBINATION OF 1 -TWO-STORY HOMES IN AND IN MY ESTIMATION WOULD NOT BE DIFFERENT THAN 9-10 FEET IN HEIGHT. AND I'M SURE WE HAVE SOME TOPOGRAPHY AND WE CAN SEE OUT THIS SITE ROLES AND IT IS PREDOMINANTLY FLAT DOWN THAT CORNER.

AND IT GOES ACROSS THE SITE AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES I WOULD

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DO YOU WANT A MOTION? >> I WILL MOVE TO SEND THIS BAC TO THE COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION.

>> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. BUT THE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION , ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED BEARD THIS MOVES FORWAR 7-0 BACK TO FULL COMMITTEE.

>> THANKS FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT ITEM, WANT TO SAY THAT ONE A ITEM HAD BEEN TABLED TO OUR -- PZ-2026-00117 OY -- PUD.

[3. Docket No. PZ-2026-00187 PUD: Venture at Meridian Trails PUD Rezone]

THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO REZONE THE SITE TO PUD TO ALLOW A NEW 154 DWELLING UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 201 WEST 106TH STREET AND IS ZONED B 1 BUSINESS. FILED BY JIM SHINAVER AND JON DOBOSIEWICZ OF NELSON & FRANKENBERGER ON BEHALF OF MILLSTONE VENTURES LLC AND PITTMAN PARTNERS INC.

WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HANDLE THIS, MR. PETITIONER?

>> JON DOBOSIEWICZ ABOUT HALF O MILLSTONE VENTURES LLC AND PITTMAN PARTNERS. IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION, IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE. THERE'S ALSO A SMALL SUBDIVISIO TO OUR WEST. THERE IS AUTO HILLS AND WE COMMUNICATED EARLIER IN OCTOBER THAT WE WERE HAVING DIALOGUE WITH THEM AND WE CONTINUED THAT DISCUSSION AND CONCLUDED THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND MODIFICATIONS THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE BUT IT FELT LIKE IT WAS CONSISTENT WIT THE 2024 COMMITMENTS.

HE RECEIVED AS OF THIS AFTERNOO A SUPPORT LETTER FROM RISOTTO HILLS SAYING THAT THEY'RE INTERACTING WITH US AND REQUESTING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD BUT SO THOSE OF THE THREE OWNER TO THE SOUTH -- EXCUSE ME, TO THE WEST WEST BE CONSISTENT OUR REPRESENTATION A YOUR PUBLIC HEARING.

THERE ARE ITEMS THAT STAFF ASKE US TO ADDRESS HERE, RELATIVELY FEW ITEMS BUT NONETHELESS, ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU WILL SE APPEARS A LITTLE BRIGHTER IN THIS ONE.

THIS UP 200-FOOT SEGMENT IN HER ALONG THE WEST PROPERTY LINE WITH THE COMMITMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT WE ENHANCE WITH A CERTAIN LEVEL OF PLANTINGS PLAN THINGS SO WE PUT THAT BACK AND THE REDLINE REFLECTS THAT IN CERTAIN PLANTINGS RIGHT HERE, BUT THAT IS IS IDENTIFY THE LOCATION OF THE WALL OF A BLUE LINE THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE AT THE RATLINE HAS BEEN HAD AND IT IDENTIFIES WHERE THAT EXISTING WALL IS TODAY. IF YOU LOOK AT ILLINOIS STREET, YOU SEE AN EXISTING WALL BUT IT DOES NOT STOP THE PROPERTY LINE.

THE WALL DOES NOT STOP THERE. IT ALONG THE SIDE AND IS IN IN THE SUBDIVISION. THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION IN GREATER DETAIL, THAT HELPS AND THIS IDENTIFIES WHERE WE PROPOS THE UNDERGROUND WATER SUPPLY. IT'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSED BELO THE PARKING SURFACE RIGHT IN THAT SPACE.

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OF BREAD LINES REPRESENT SIDEWALKS AND STAFF WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU COULD NAVIGATE AL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING AND THE SITE PLAN IN THEIR MIND WAS NOT CLEAR ENOUGH.

WITH THIS EXHIBIT THERE WILL BE A SIDEWALK CONNECTION THAT GETS YOU TO 106TH AND ONE OTHER WAS REQUESTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT IS SHOWN RIGH HERE SO IF YOU REALLY ZOOM IN TIGHT, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN BLOW THAT UP SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT. BECAUSE OF THE GREAT TRANSITION COMMIT FEWER FOR ME WITH THE INTERSECTION BUT ONCE YOU GET ASIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY, IT STEP UP WOULD RAPIDLY.

AND THE GREEN AREA REPRESENTS DOTS ON THAT GREEN AREA WE'VE DONE A SURVEY OF THE SITE AND I IDENTIFIES WORLD THE EXISTING THREES WERE. AND THE BLUE SQUARE ON THE SITE THAT IS WHERE THE ENHANCED SIGNAGE AND WHETHER IN FOR EXHIBIT -- EXHIBIT WILL TAKE PLACE.

SO WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU IT WILL BE ILLUSTRATED ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THIS IS AN UPDATED ELEVATION OF THE SITE INCLUDING ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE BUILDING.

THERE ACTUALLY TWO BUILDINGS AN THIS REPRESENTS BUILDING A AND ALL FOUR SIDES BUT THIS WILL BE THE ELEVATION THAT FACES HUNDRE SIXTH STREET. THAT HAS BEEN ENHANCE.

AND BEFORE WE GET THERE, I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHA WE SHARED AT THE LAST MEETING PITTMAN YET THE PLANNING COMMISSION BACK HERE IN 2024 BI WE HAD A PROPOSAL FOR JUSTICE HOLMES AND THAT IS 2 FEET IN HEIGHT.

AND THIS PROPOSED BUILDING IS -- A MAXIMUM OF 49 FEET IN HEIGHT.

AND WE ARE AS WHAT IS THE RELATIVITY THAT IS A PUT ON -- WAS A LIAR OR THAT LOWER. AND THAT IS ABOUT 7 FEET LOWER.

SO ABOUT 10 FEET LOWER ALL DAY. AND FROM A BUILDING HEIGHT PERSPECTIVE, LOWER THAN THAT BUILDING.

I THINK PEOPLE JUST HAD A CONCERN AND IS THIS TALKING ABOUT APPLES TO APPLES RATHER THAN APPLES TO ORANGES WHEN WE JUST SHOWED THIS COMPARISON. ADDITIONALLY THIS IS A THE PLAN THAT WE PROVIDED. WE'VE PROVIDED THIS SPOT GRADES ALL THROUGHOUT AND I JUST WANT TO SAY GENERALLY IT FALLS FROM NORTHWEST, EXCUSE ME, SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST AND FINISH THE GRADE AT THE FAR SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE.

AGAIN REMEMBER WE ARE AT 839 SAWYER ABOUT 4 FEET LOWER AT TH CORNER. AND IT WOULD FALL DOWN TO 8:13 AT THE CORNER. AND WE GENERALLY FALL LIKE THIS TOWARD ILLINOIS STREET BIT A COUPLE OTHER SPOT ELEVATIONS ALONG HERE ARE 836 AND 842. AGAIN WE ARE AT 839 SOMEWHERE LOWER ON BOTH OF THOSE ACCOUNTS SO THEY SIT HIGHER UP.

WANT TO BE LOOKING AT APPLES TO APPLES.

THAT'S ABOUT 3-4 FEET. ABOUT 5 FEET LOWER THAN WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED. THIS ONE SITS LOWER.

THIS IS THE IMAGERY THAT WE HAD AND I JUST WANTED TO PULL OUT THIS ELEMENT BECAUSE IT CAME OU HERE.

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AND IT WAS TAKEN. THIS IS BUILDING A AND BUILDING BE PAID FOR WHATEVER REASON IT DID NOT APPEAR IN THE GENERATED DRAWING AS HAS BEEN DESCRIBED A AN ANOMALY FROM THAT POSITION O THAT SITE, LOOKING INTO THE PROPERTY PAPER REPORTED TO PROVIDE ASSURANCE THAT THE DESIGN ELEMENT APPEARS IN ELEVATIONS BUT DID NOT APPEAR I THAT INITIAL RENDERING.

THAT CORNER IS STILL THEY ARE. THINK THAT PICKS UP THE FOUR ITEMS THAT STAFF HAD. ITEM TWO BUT BEING THE CONNECTION OF THE SIDEWALK AND ENHANCEMENT TO THE CORNER ELEVATION, WHICH THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED HERE AND THREES AND THE ROUNDABOUT, CAN THEY BE PRESERVED, WHICH WE HAVE IDENTIFIED. I THINK THAT'S THE REST OF THE QUESTIONS SHALL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE

PLANNING COMMISSION HAS. >> THANK YOU PAID FOR THE RECORD , ALEXIS WITH THE PLANNING OFFICE.

SO THE PETITIONER HAS ADDRESSED A LOT OF OUR COMMENTS FROM THE ORIGINAL FINDING AND WE VIEWED THAT WERE REMAINING AND THEY WENT THROUGH THOSE THIS EVENING SO THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE THE PATH CONNECTIONS THAT WILL BE ACCESSIBLE AT THE ENTRANCES AND THAT WILL JUST PROVIDE ANOTHER ACTIVITY OPTION OUT TO THE PATH ON ILLINOIS STREET AND THEY'VE ALSO MADE SURE THAT THE CONNECTIONS WILL GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDINGS AND SHOWING THAT ENHANCED ELEVATION.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS IN THE PUD.

WE BOTH HOLD THEM TO THOSE IMAGES WHEN THEY COME BACK.

AND THEN WITH THE THREES BEING PRESERVED, JOHN, CAN YOU GO OVE WHERE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SAVE THOSE PLEASE.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IN THE BOOTH CAN ZOOM INTO THAT GREEN SPACE. IT IS THE AREA OF THE GREEN SPACE. YOU SEE THESE BLACK DOTS.

I DO SEE THERE ARE NOT THREES TODAY AND THAT IS THE SANITARY EASEMENT SO THERE IS NOTHING THERE SO THERE IS NOTHING THERE TO PRESERVE. ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE BLUE AREA , THERE IS A SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT.

THERE'S NOTHING TO DO WITH THE THREES THAT WE ARE PRESERVING.

I DROVE AROUND THE ROUNDABOUT HERE AND THERE IS A DECENT STAN

OF THREES THERE. >> THANK YOU.

AND THAT SIGN WITH THAT WATER FEATURE, YOU DON'T THINK THEY

WE WILL WORK AROUND. >> THANK YOU.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING WITH THE SIGN, I THINK IF WE LIKE TH SIGN, YOU MIGHT NEED TO UPDATE THE LANGUAGE TO SPECIFICALLY ALLOW IT AND HOW IT WOULD NORMALLY BE ALLOWED TODAY IS TH AREA ABOVE THE ENTRANCE SIGN SO WE TYPICALLY PUT NOT ALLOW US SIGN ON THAT ROUNDABOUT THERE S YOU MAY WANT TO ADD SOME TEXT T THE PD TO ALLOW THAT. AND I THINK WE WOULD JUST NEED TO REVIEW SOME OF THE FINAL CHANGES TO THE PUD PICKED IF YO RIGHT INTO THE PUD THE PRESERVATION LANGUAGE QUICK.

>> IT IS NOT PAID WE WERE JUST RESPONDING.

>> I WASN'T SURE IF I MISSED IT. SO UPDATING SOME OF THOSE TO TH UD AND THEN JUST TO LET YOU KNOW , THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THAT THEY WANTED ADDRESSED

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ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY ADDRESSED ALL OF THIS, I ASSUME IT WOULD BE FORWARDED BACK FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THANK YOU. COMMITTEE.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION. I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW LONG ELEANOR THERE SHOULD B A 15-FOOT BUFFER AND YOU ALSO SAID YOU WANT TO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO FIND THAT SPACE.

HEAVY HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT WHERE ELSE THAT GREAT SPACES

GOING TO GO. >> THERE AREAS THAT HAVE A 30- FOOT BUFFER ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE PARKING AREA HERE AS WEL AS A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE SOUTH AND PRIMARILY HERE COME, COUPLE OF THE ISLANDS REACHED MODESTLY IN ROME AT WEST AFRICA THERE IS A RATIONALE BEHIND IT BEING 10-FOOT THAT NEEDS TO BE MANAGED AND WITHOUT WALLS HERE, THERE IS NO, WE ARE STILL PLANNING IN THAT SPACE. TYPICALLY WE HAVE A BUFFER, IS THIS BEHIND THE WALL THAT THERE WILL BE SOME THREES THERE QUITE EXPECT I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE WALL AND THE REASON TO KEEP THE BUFFER WHERE IT IS BUT TO THE EXTENT YOU CAN ADD MORE GREEN SPACE, JUST WIDE AND NOT ONE STRIP A LITTLE BIT.

>> WE DO HAVE MORE SPACE THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED PICKED IF THE QUESTION IS DID WE CHANGE THE PLAN TO ADD MORE SPACE, THE PLA WAS CHANGED MODESTLY IN THIS LOCATION BUT THERE'S ALSO AREAS ON THE PLAN FOR THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT REQUIRE IT TO DATE.

SO I GUESS WERE ASKING FOR AN INDULGENT BE CREDITED FOR WHAT WE ALREADY PROVIDED. AND COME UP WITH THE SITUATION WHERE -- WE ARE ALREADY ASKING FOR PRODUCTION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOT BUT I THINK THE PLANTING STANDARD THAT EXISTS HERE'S A 30-FOOT SPACE IS GOING TO PROVIDE A LOT OF SHAPE TO TH PARKING AREA.

>> AND THEN THAT IS THE MAX YOU CAN DO.

THAT IS YOUR ANSWER? >> THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT A DOG CART. WHERE IS THAT?

>> THAT IS THIS SPACE RIGHT HER APPEAR IF IT IS OBSCURED ON THE COLOR RENDERING, IT IS NOT OBSCURE BUT THAT IS THE LOCATION

. >> HOW BIG IS THAT GOING TO BE BUT I KNOW IT IS SAFEST BECAUSE STEVE DID A NICE JOB IT'S A LOVELY. I DON'T KNOW.

THAT LOOKS SMALL. >> THAT IS NOT AS NICE AS THAT ONE. THANK YOU.

THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. COULD YOU CLARIFY WHERE THE ACCESS TO THE ILLINOIS STREET PATH IS? THE REASON I ASK IS THE BRICK WALL --

SO TODAY THE BRICK WALL EXTENDS. >> IS NOT THE DARKLING THERE.

THIS IS THE DARK LINE THERE. SO WHERE WOULD --

WHERE WILL ACCESS BE? >> AT THE CONNECTION RIGHT HERE.

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THE WALK TO THE NORTH ACROSS TH PARKING LOT AND DOWN WHERE THE STEPS ARE, THIS POSITION RIGHT HERE, AND A WALK FROM OUR ENTRANCE ON 106 ALONG THIS SIDE OF IT AND THEN THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. ONE MORE IMMEDIATE TO THE CORNE

AND THEN ONE AT EACH ENTRANCE. >> SAW ON THE GRID, BUT I'M TRYING TO GET THAT IS IS THE ON ON THE UPPER LEFT IN THE DRAWING , IS THAT A FLAT SIDEWALK THAT JUST WALKS UPHILL? IT FOLLOWS THE EXISTING GREAT T APPOINT I THINK IT IS FLAT

ENOUGH TO MEET ADA IS- >> I'VE TRESPASSED AND WALKED U THERE, STEVE. THE SCOPE IT OUT.

YOU CAN WALK, IF YOU COULD WALK IT'S A NICE WALK UPHILL KIDS BU IT'S MANAGEABLE. THERE IS AN INCLINE GOES UPHILL.

THAT MY SITE SITS ABOUT 5 FEET LOWER SO WE ARE TRANSITIONING BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS TO GE DOWN TO GRADE AND INTO THE PARKING LOT DOWN THE DRIVE, RELATIVELY AT THE GRADE IT IS TODAY. SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO CHUNK OU SOME DIRT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE LEVEL.

MODESTLY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE SANITARY SEWER TO CLEAR AND TO MANAGE THE EXISTING CROSSOVER, THE BRIDGE THAT CROSSES THEIR TODAY'S GOING TO REMAIN. SO YOU ARE NOT GOING DOWN MUCH.

>> OKAY. SO I WILL STILL HOLD OUT FOR A ZIP LINE. IS THAT GOING TO BE STEPS DOWN

TO THE SIDEWALK? >> IT WILL COME OFF THE EXISTIN PATH THAT IS HERE TODAY APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET AND STARE

AND THEN THE REST OF THE WAY. >> AND THEN ONCE YOU GET UP TO WHERE THE BRICK WALL IS, IS THA WHERE THAT EXISTING LITTLE GAP IS ON THE WALL? FAX KNOW, THE GAP IS THAT THE END OF THE WALL BUT SO ARE YOU GOING TO GO OVER THE BALL OR AR

YOU GOING TO CREATE- >> THE WALL IS RACE YEAR AND TH CONNECTION WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION.

>> I'M SORRY, I MOVED DOWN TO THE LAST ONE.

SORRY. >> WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE WAL FOR BOTH PEDESTRIAN AND REGULAR ACCESS.

AND THE WATERS GOING TO GO INTO THE EXISTING STORM DRAIN.

>> WE WILL SELECT EVERYTHING ON SITE AND PROCESS IT AND DISCHARGE IT INTO THE WATERWAY THAT IS FAR NORTH.

IT IS THERE ALREADY. AND THEN ONE FINAL QUESTION WIT THE RENDERING OF THE SIGN SO IF I'M BEHIND THE SIGN, I'M LOOKIN NORTHEAST. I'M LOOKING AT THE SIGN AND I'M LOOKING SOUTHWEST. SO IF THAT IS ALLOWED, THE SIGNAGE ORDINANCE COME ABOUT HO TALL WOULD THE LETTERS BE.

>> THE HEIGHT OF THE LETTERS THEMSELVES ARE PLACED INTO THE GROUND AND THE ROUNDABOUT WHERE THEY WOULD BE.

>> I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE LETTERS THEMSELVES.

>> NOT SPECIFICALLY BUT HOW FAR OUT APPROXIMATELY 12 FEET FROM THE SIDEWALK AND THEN THE LETTE HEIGHT IS ROUGHLY 18 INCHES

TALLER THAN THE OTHERS. >> SO FROM THAT RENDERING, WHEREAS THE CONNECTION TO THE PATH IF I AM LOOKING THERE, BEHIND THAT LITTLE WHITE CAR. STARTING BACK IN HERE WHERE IT

IS REPRESENTED. >> OKAY.%

THANK YOU. >> JOHN, WHILE YOU HAVE THIS IMAGE HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE THE STEPS ARE ANIMAL ASKING OUT OF CURIOSITY. I'M NOT READY TO MAKE THIS SUB REQUIREMENT BUT ARE THEY JUST CONCRETE STEPS OF THE DECORATIV

RAILING? >> THEY ARE CONCRETE AND WE HAV

TO PROVIDE A FEELING. >> ARE THERE ELEMENTS THAT TIE IN THE ARCHITECTURE IS WHAT I'M WONDERING.

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>> SO THERE WILL BE A RAILING AND SOME CONCRETE STEPS.

I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THE ADDITIONAL CONNECTION.

I KNOW SOME OF THE GROUP TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THINK THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION LAST TIME AND I HEAR A LITTLE BIT OFF MY -- FEEDBACK FROM A PRINCETON ENGINEERING.

DID YOU LOOK AT POTENTIAL LEFT TURN LIGHT INTO THE ENTRANCE THAT WAS WARRANTED, NEEDED PAID I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS.

>> LET ME CIRCLE BACK TO ENGINEERING.

I BELIEVE THERE WERE COMMENTS ABOUT OUR EXIT.

AND THE POTENTIAL NOT TO HAVE THE NEED TO DO A DEDICATED LEFT IN AND LEFT OUT. BUT LET ME DIVE INTO THAT WHEN WE COME BACK. I'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.

I GUESS THE GENERAL COMMENT, I APPRECIATE ALL THE DIALOGUE THA YOU'VE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORS. PEOPLE ARE UP IN ARMS AND THERE IS JUST THE EXTRA HOMEWORK THAT IS APPRECIATED.

'S HOW WIDE IS THE WALKING PATH? 6 FEET?

>> IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THE CITY 'S PATH IS LIKELY 10 FEET.

THAT IS THE STANDARD ON-SITE I BELIEVE WE ARE 6 FEET.

YOU ARE CONFIRMING THAT. THANK YOU.

I WOULD MOVE WE SEND THIS BACK TO THE FULL-TIME COMMISSION FOR

A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. >> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE FORWARD TO NIGHTS -- BACK TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE PROPOSED READ THIS MOVES FORWARD TO FULL PLANNING WHICH IS NOVEMBER 17.

NOVEMBER 17. THANK YOU.

[4. Docket No. PZ-2026-00190 DP/ADLS: LEVEL5 Bank]

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WE HAVE CONTINUED COORDINATION WITH UTILITIES AND GETTING UTILITIES TIED IN SO SANITARY SEWER WILL BE TYING IN DOWN HER BUT IF YOU CAN SEE MY FINGER RIGHT THERE, SORRY.

THEY WILL BE IN FAVOR OF THAT A WELL.

WE ALSO HAVE BEEN COORDINATING WITH DOT OUT FRONT ALONG THE MAIN ROAD, EXTENDING ITEMS PAST THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE.

AND THAT WILL BE THIS SIDE. AND THAT GOES BACK TO THE MAJESTIC'S PROPERTY WITH THE ENTRANCE LOCATED HERE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DETAIL YO WANT HERE.

WE DO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND GREEN SPACE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE THINGS WE WERE ASKED ABOUT ON THE LANDSCAPE PLANS. THE LANDSCAPING HAS ALSO BEEN SHOWN THAT HAS BEEN ON ONE SITE HERE.

SO LANDSCAPING AND ALL OF THE REQUIRED THREES AND SHRUBS, THOSE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED AND AL THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE ON THIS PART. WE ARE PROVIDING THIS THROUGHOU THE SITE. SHE IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE BUILDING ASPECTS. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SITE

FIRST? >> GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING.

I'M AN ARCHITECT DESIGNER ON TH TEAM.

I'M HERE TO PROVIDE THE ARCHITECTURAL UPDATES.

WITHOUT BE HELPFUL TO BRING A SITE VIEW OF THE PROJECT LOCATE AND THIS IS OUR PROPERTY LINE AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED BUILDING. WE ALSO BROUGHT THE STREET VIEW OF WHAT IS ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING.

IT IS THE VIEW FROM THE NORTH O THE SITE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS NEXT TO IT AND OUR SITE WOULD BE WHERE THE THREES ARE THE SECOND VIEW IS THE FAR SIDE. SO OUR BUILDING WOULD BE IN THI LOCATION AND HERE IS THE VIEW O THE BUSINESS NEXT TO US.

THE THIRD VIEW IS THAT YOU WRIT ACROSS OUR SITE WHERE WE CAN SE THIS OTHER BUSINESS AND LASTLY WE BROUGHT A SCHEMATIC VIEW OF THE BUILDING TO HOPEFULLY HELP LITTLE BIT WITH UNDERSTANDING HOW IT COMMUNICATES IN THIS CONTEXT.

>> FOR THE COMETS OF THE LAST MEETING, WE HAVE ALL OTHER SIGNAGE BUT THIS ONE AND NOW WE HAVEN'T TOTALED JUST ONE% SIGNAGE IN THIS-AND ABOUT THE ELEVATION OR WINDOW REQUESTS, WEEK ONE WINDOW ON -- AND ANY OTHER WINDOW, THEY ARE APPROPRIATE SINCE THEY WOULD BE IN A FINANCIALLY SENSITIVE AREA.

AND THEY WOULD PRESENT A SECURITY RISK.

AND THEY WOULD INCLUDE COLORS A WELL AS THE ROOF PITCH AND SLOPE . IN FRONT OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE LAST MEETING, THE ROOF BEIN FLAT, DO WE INTEND TO MODERNIZE.

WE HAVE COME AS FAR AS THE ARCHITECTURAL SHAPE, WE TRIED T USE STICK TO THE GUIDELINES AND BE UPDATE THE SLOPE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS BUT WE HAVE A NICE SELECTION OF MATERIALS AND

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FROM THE LAST COMMENTS ON THE REPORT, THE ARCHITECTURE ON THI BUILDING MOST CLOSELY RELATES T GREEK RECITE -- GREEK REVIVAL STYLE. THIS IS THE EXTERIOR USE OF THE BUILDING WITH THE ROOF HEIGHT, AS YOU SEE OVER HERE.

AT THIS IS JUST AN IMPRESSION O THAT SCHEMATIC VIEW AND WE ARE HOPING IT HELPS TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE BUILDING IS PLACED.

ARE YOU DONE? >> YES.

I WASN'T SURE. I WASN'T SURE IF YOU WERE

PULLING MORE PAPERS. >> THANK YOU.

THE PETITIONER HAS MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE ORIGINAL FILING AND WE JUST RECEIVE THOSE AT TH END OF A FRIDAY SO WE HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO REALLY GO THROUGH ALL OF THE NEW PLANS TO GET COMMENTS BACK TO THE PETITIONER BUT IT DOES LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE ADJUSTED SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS INCLUDING MAKING THE PATH ALONG MISSION ROAD TO BE 10 FEET AND THE STOPS REQUESTED THAT ARE REQUIRED WHEN THERE IS PARKING SPACE ON THE SIDEWALK.

THEY ADDED THE SIDEWALK CONNECTION FROM MICHIGAN ROAD PATH TO THE SAFE AND WE THANK THEM FOR REMOVING THE EXTRA SIGNAGE THAT THEY WILL MEET THE SIGN ORDINANCE WITH JUST ONE SIGN. THEY WILL BE BACK FOR AN AMENDMENT WENT THEY ARE READY FOR THE DESIGN AND WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE. I DIDN'T SEE WHERE THE PARKING SPACE WAS ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN .

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT AN ALSO WITH THE ARCHITECTURE, WE WERE HOPING TO MAYBE WORK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THEM . MAKE SURE THEY MEET THE ORDINANCE THAT WAY AND THE SLOP OF THE ROOF.

AND THEY TIED A VENTED TIRE % ELEMENT INTO THE ROOF LINE.

WERE PONDERING IF IT WANTS TO MAYBE FLATTEN OUT MORE AND AS A -- OF THE ROOF, THAT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A VERY STEEP INTERSECTION WHERE THE SHED ROOF COMES DOWN AND MEETS THE OTHER. THE REST OF THE ROOF LINE, THAT CAN GET FLATTER. ART DOES IT SEEMS LIKE IT TIES IN WITH -- JUST THE HARDY PLANK SIDING.

WHETHER IT IS THE ENTRYWAY AND WHETHER THE LIGHT WOULD SHINE IN . RIGHT NOW IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT IS ADDED ONTO THE FRONT, SO WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THOSE

DETAILS. >> ARE YOU REFERRING TO IS ERIE OF THE INTERIOR? THE VESTIBULE ENTRANCE?

>> YES, LIKE THEIR WINDOWS ON THE FRONT.

WITH BRENDA'S LAPTOP AND WINDOW UP HERE, RIGHT.

>> ARE IN TENSION WITH THE TOWERS TO FRAME THE ENTRY AS YO CAN SEE HERE. OF THIS WAS REMOVED, THE BUILDING WOULD BREED HORIZONTAL. AND THE OWNERS WHICH IS SUPPOSE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF ELEMENT THAT FROM THE STREET THAT WILL

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WE ARE ADDING THIS FIBER CEMENT IN HERE AND IT KINDA MIMICS THE SAME HEIGHT OF THIS ROOF RIGHT HERE.

>> SO IF WE WERE TO BRING WINDOWS ON THIS SIDE, IT WOULD BREAK A LITTLE BIT OF THAT VERTICALITY THAT WE HAVE CREATED

. >> I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE

DISCUSSION ON THAT. >> MAY BE THIS SIDE.

>> YES. I WAS JUST HOPING WHEN YOU INCORPORATED THE ROOFLINES, IT WOULD TRANSFER TO THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING AS WELL. AND OVERALL ARCHITECTURE TYPE FEATURE VERSUS HAVING THIS LARG EXPANSIVE FIGHTING BUT IT DEFINITELY LIKE IT TRANSITIONS TO THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING.

SO WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS HERE, I WAS GOING TO SAY WE COULD WORK WITH THEM BEFORE THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING. I THINK WE COULD TABLE IT TO TH NEXT MEETING TO GIVE THEM TIME TO WORK WITH THEM IN ADDRESSING

THIS ARCHITECTURAL COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU.

>> I WILL SAY THEY ALSO HAVE A PLOT COMING UP THAT WILL BE AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, ESSENTIALLY SPLIT THE PARCELS S THEY CAN HAVE THE BANK SITE AND THEN THE COMPANY WILL PUT NOTIO THAT WILL BE HEARD AT YOUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING.

>> THANK YOU. FORGIVE ME, I ASK OUT OF IGNORANCE BID BUT IS CALLED LEVEL FIVE I THINK OF THE LAST MEETING WE SAID WE WERE -- THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

WHERE MY HEAD GOES IS WHETHER IT'S A CERTAIN COLOR SCHEME OR WHATEVER, THIS IS VERY DARK, MUCH DARKER THEN THE OTHER BUILDINGS ON MICHIGAN ROAD. THIS IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTIS SO I AM REALLY WINGING IT HERE. THIS IS THEIR COLOR SCHEME.

I HAVE NO IDEA. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS VERY DARK AND WE HAVE A LOT OF WINTER COLORS AND THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. I SHARE THE STAFF'S CONCERNS GREEK REVIVAL, I'M NOT SEEING GREEK REVIVAL IN THIS DESIGN.

THE REASON WE HAVE THE OVERLAY STANDARDS IS SO WHEN NEW THINGS ARE BUILT, THEN THE ARCHITECTUR WILL BE ELEVATED ALONG MICHIGAN ROAD. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE THAN TO TELL YOU OTHER THAN THIS IS IT.

WOULDN'T SAVE MORE WORK NEEDS B DONE ON BY THE ARCHITECTURE.

WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'VE DONE SO THANK YOU.

>> I THINK THAT AND I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IT CONTINUING AT TH CANTILEVER. THAT DOES THAT MEAN MY COMMENT DOES I THINK I AM -- OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A REQUIREMENT OF THEIR NEEDS TO B DISCUSSION I AGREE, I THINK THI IS INCONSISTENT. I'LL THINK IT THE CALIBER SO I' NOT COMFORTABLE MAKING A DECISION ON THIS SAY.

MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE POSTPONE THIS TO THAN KNIFE

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>> THAT IS THE ENTRANCE. THIS IS KARINE.

IT IS LIKE A KARINE FIBER SMITH AND THIS IS THE ENTRANCE.

ARCHITECTURES KIND OF LIKE IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE ARE NOT ARCHITECTS, WE KNOW WHAT BLENDS IN A 1,000.

IT DOES NOT CUT THE GRADE YET D YOU AND WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT I WILL POSTPONE IT TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING.

>> I THINK WE ARE ALL LEANING THAT WAY.

AT THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING, YOU CAN BRING SAMPLES.

I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US JUST IN THE BUILDING AT THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING CAN YOU BRING IT? THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THIS A LOT OF QUESTIONS PROBABL

PAY YOU. >> I THINK THE TOWER ELEMENT IS LESS THE AND IS STILL A LITTLE AWKWARD I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IT NOT BEING THAT DARK. [INDISCERNIBLE] BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT ADAM MADE A COMMENT I.

IT ENTERING AT HER UNDER THE BU HE WILL BE HERE.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. IT JUST MAY NOT BE AS MODERN HEARD -- I THINK THE DEPARTMENT CAN PROBABLY HELP YOU TWIDDLE THAT DOWN.

AND THAT IS JUST AN OLDER SALVO YOU CAN DRIVE DOWN ON THE STRIP AND I CAN'T THINK OF THEM OFF A THE PHI HAD WRITTEN NOW.

BUT IF YOU'RE DRIVING TO MICHIGAN ROAD COMMUNITIES OF TH ARCHITECTURE AND SOME OF THE NEWER FIXTURES I LIKE THE FACT THAT I CANNOT FIGURE OUT WHERE IT WAS LOCATED HERE I NEEDED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS WAS THEIR THINKING FOREVER IN THE CONTEXT

LOCATE HIM. >> OUT OF THINK WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS BID WE JUST MOVE THIS FORWARD TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE

MEETING. >> SO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS IS THE NEXT MEETING IS A FULL COMMISSION, WILL STAFF HAVE ENOUGH TIME WHICH IS ABOUT 12 WEEKS TO FINALIZE THAT.

>> I THINK THEY REPORT RECOMMENDING THE NEXT COMMITTEE

MEETING. >> AND THINKING NEXT COMMITTEE FOR THAT REASON. HISTORICALLY WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO COMMITTEE AGAIN BUT WE CAN.

SINCE YOU ARE ALREADY IN THE COMMITTEE, IT WILL CONTINUE

BEING HERE. >> HOW WELL WE HOPE TO SEE YOU

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WE STILL RETAIN FINAL ZONE AUTHORITY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE WILL SEE YOU THE FIRST OF

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.